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SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES IN THE UNITED STATES HEARINGS 11EFORE T U G COMMITTEE ON FINANCE UNITED STATES SENATE S E V E N T Y - S E C O N D F1UST C O N G R E S S SKSSION PURSUANT T O S. Res. 19 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE FINANCE COMMITTEE OF THE SENATE TO .INVESTIGATE THE SALE, FLOTATION, AND ALLOCATION BY BANKS, BANKING INSTITUTIONS, CORPORATIONS, OR INDIVIDUALS OF FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES IN THE UNITED STATES i P A R T I DECEMBER 18, 19, and 21, 1931 j Printed for the use of the Committee on Financc UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 9292$ WASHINGTON: 1931 COMMITTKK OX FINANCE RKKti 8MOOT. rtah. Chairman VAT HARRISON. MIMIMJppI, JAMES K. WATSON* ImlUiw, DAVID A. RRKD. I'MDSjlvanla. WILLIAM II. KING, Ct*h. SAMtTEL M. SHORTRUKJE. Callfo?nlK WALTER R OEOIUJK. ftenruin, JAMES COU7.KN& Michigan. DA VII! 1. WAL8VI, U«ft«acJiu**ltii. HENRY W. KKYES. New IlAn>s«hirtv ALJtEN W, I.IARKLKY, Krntncfcj. Ill RAM RIXfillAtt. Connrciiciit. TOM CONNALLY, Tnai UOttERT M. LA ruLLETTE. JR, Wi«t*n*irt.THOMAS V. OORB. Oklahoma. JOHN THOMAS, Idaho. ES>WARt) 1*. COKTKJAN. Cclnr*>I<t. WESLEY L. JONES, WaaJiIftfftoti. CORDELL HULL, Tennr**^. JESSE II. METCALE,fthod«lilAod. It ISAAC M. STEWART, Ctcrk C O N T E N T S Testimony o f — Otto H. Kiilin, member of the banking house of Kuhn, I/oeb & Co., New York, N. Y Thomas W . Lamont, of J. P. Morpan & Co Charles E. Mitchell, chairman National City Bank m 117 2 63 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS UNITED OB SECURITIES IN THE STATES F R I D A Y , DECEMBER 18, 1931 U N I T E D STATES SEXATK, COMMITTEE ON F I N A N C E , Washington-, D. C. The coininittcc met at 10 o'clock a. m., pursuant to call of the chairman, in the committee room, Capitol, Senator Reed Smoot presiding. Present: Senators Smoot (chairman), Watson, Reed, Shortridge, Couzens, Keycs, Bingham, La Follette, Thomas of Idaho, Jones, Metcalf, Harrison, King, George. Walsh of Massachusetts, Barkley, Connally, Gore, and Costigan. Present also: Senator Johnson of California. The C H A I R M A N . The committee will give their attention. We will >roceed with the business before us. I wish to present Senate Resort ion 10, introduced by Senator Johnson on December 10, 1930, which was reported by Mr. Townsend with an amendment; was considered, amended, and agreed to; and I ask that the resolution be made a part of the record, as follows: { Retailed, That the Finance Committee of the Senate be, and It is hereby, authorized, empowered, and directed to investigate the sale* flotation, and aliocation by banks banking institutions, cori>oratious, or individuals of foreign bonds or securities in tbe United States, and particularly to investigate and ascertain— (a) Whether or not any banks, banking institutions, corporations, or individuals engaged in the banking business in the United States have, as representatives or flscal agents of any foreign governments, or otherwise, sold, floated, or allocated in the United States securities, evidences of indebtedness, or bonds of any foreign government; and if so, at what prices such securities, bonds, or other evidences of indebtedness have been sold or allocated, and what sums, if any. have been received by the individual, corporation, or bank so selling or allocating as percentage, bouun, remuneration, or commission for such gale or allocation. (b) H i e amount of foreign government 1 securities, bonds, or other evidence* of indebtedness held by bank.*, corporations, or individuals doing a banking business in the United States, including those securities, bond*, or other evidences of indebtedness issued not only by foreign governments but by foreign governmental subdivisions and foreign municipalities, together with the names of the owners or holders of such foreign securities, bonds*, or other evidences of indebtedness, the time and manner of acquisition, and the prices paid therefor. (c) The amount of foreigu securities or bonds or other evidences of Indebted* ness issued by foreign industrial associations or corporations owned or held by banks or corporations or individuate doing a banking business in the United States, together with the names of the holders thereof and the manner and circumstances of their acquisition. ( d ) The terms and conditions upon which all of the said securities,-bonds, 4>r otlier evidence** of indebtedness have been acquired, and the amounts paid therefor by anr of the said banks owning or holding them*. SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES 2 Tliis investigation shall be made at the earliest possible moment, and the Finance Committee, at the conclusion thereof, shall report its findings to the Senate, the said report and said investigation to be the basis of any legislation deemed necessary relating to the said subject matter. For the purposes of this resolution the said committee, or any duly authorized subcommittee thereof, is hereby authorized and empowered to hold hearings and to sit and act at such times and, at such place or places as it may deem necessary; to employ clerical and other assistants; to require by subpoena*or otherwise the attendance of witnesses and the production of books, papers, and documents;. to administer such oaths and to take such testimony as the said committee or any subcommittee thereof may deem necessary; and to do such other acts as the said committee or subcommittee may deem essential in the matter of the said investigation.,. , , The said committee or a subcommittee authorized by it may employ stenographic services to report the said hearings, the cost of said stenographic services shall not be in excess of 25 cents >peri one hundred words. The chairman of the committee or any member thereof may administer oaths to witnesses. Every person who, having been summoned as a witness by authority of said committee or subcommit.ee, willfully makes default, or who, having appeared,1 refuses to answer any question pertinent to the investigation hereby authorized, shall be held to the penalties provided .by section 102 of the Revised Statutes of the United States. For the purpose of this investigation the expenditure of $5,000, to be paid out of the contingent fund of the Senate on vouchers approved by the chairman of said committee or a subcommittee thereof, is hereby authorized. The CHAIRMAN. I S Mr. Lamont'present ?. Mr. LAMONT. Yes, Mr. Chairman. The CHAIRMAN. If you will hold up your right hand—you clo solemnly swear that the evidence you willgive in this hearing before the committee will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God. M r . LAMONT. I d o . The CHAIRMAN. Just take a seat there at the center of the table opposite the shorthand reporter. TESTIMONY OF THOMAS W. LAMONT, OF J. P. MORGAN & CO., NEW YORK CITY The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Lamont, you have read the resolution before rhe committee, have you not ? Mr. LAMONT. I have. The CHAIRMAN. The committee will be very pleased, indeed, for you to present whatever information you have covering all the requests made in this resolution, as best you can; and any member of the committee has a perfect right to interrupt you at any time, to ask any question he desires to ask. If you are prepared now to proceed, Mr. Lamont, you may do so. Mr. LAMONT. Mr. Chairman, I have no formal data to present at this moment. I had only a little over a day's notice as to the importance of coming down here, and while I have ample notes with which to reply to Senators' inquiries, the actual tables or data or anythingof that kind I should wish to check up and complete upon my return1 to New York, so as to be sure we arefilingwith you exactly wThat you, want to have. But upon obtaining exact information oil that point,: we shall be very glad tofilewith you very full data on all the points. Senator EEED. SO that we may. get this in orderly fashion,, let me ask: You are a member of J. P. Morgan & Co., are you not? M r . LAMONT. I am. SALE OF FOREIGX BONDS Oil SKCUIUTIES 3 Senator REED. And have been for how long? Mr* L A M O X T . For a little over 2 0 years. Senator REED. Will you glance at the resolution which lies before 'you and tell us as best you can what loans of foreign governments your firm has floated since the armistice. Mr. LAMOXT* May I read from my notes. Senator Reed? Senator REED. Yes; if you-please. Mr. L A M O X T . For the Argentine Government in long-term loans $150,800,000. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Lamont, in order to SAVE time, let me ask: Are you in position also at the same time you are giving us information about securities or bonds, to state at what price such securities, bonds, or other evidences of indebtedness were sold or allocated? M r . LAMOXT. Y e s . The CHAIRMAN. I think if you have that data with you it would jbe a good thing to furnish it at the same time. Mr. L A M O X T . Well, Mr. Chairman, that last is a pretty large order*I can give the data that we have coming from our office. Of course as to tlie actual distribution all over tho country, the figures on that ,we do not have because we are not retail distributors. The CHAIRMAN. But you have thefiguresthat you sold them for? Mr. L A M O X T . Oh, yes; we have all that information; Senator REED. Let us take the Argentine loan that you have just mentioned: What spread did you make 011 those loans'? Mr. L A M O X T . The spread, Senator Reed, on the Argentine loan varied from 3*4 to 4 per cent, the gross spread. Senator REED. And out of that of course yOu had some expenses to pay? Mr- L A M O X T . Olij well, of course in order to make that statement at all intelligible 1 should have to break that spread up, because that was the total of the expense of distributing all over the country through bond houses, through houses other than our own. Senator REED. That is not the spread that your own firm received, between your purchase price and your first sale to the bond group? M I \ L A M O X T . Oh, 110, but quite the contrary. For instance, in the Argentine loans our firm received no managing commission whatsoever. A number of institutions were associated with us in the original group purchase, in which the per cent varied from 1 per cent to V/2 per cent. Senator GORE. Could you give us the number and the names of those institutions, cither how or later 011? Mr. L A M O X T . I can later on in every case, and will do so. I could not give you that data now because I have not got it. here. Senator GEORGE. Mr. Lainont, the total amount of Argentine bonds you have given us included all bonds you handled? Mr. L A M O X T . It includes all long-term bonds handled. Senator GEORGE. All long-term bonds handled? Mr. L A M O X T . Yes; for the Argentine. Senator GEORGE. I thank you. Mr. L A M O X T . When I file this data I can continue, Senator Reed, with the break up of this gross spread, so as to show in what maimer it was distributed among the various distributing groups that handled these bonds throughout the country. 4 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator REED. All right, I will thank you to do that. But as I understand your answer, neither you nor your firm received any commission as managers or otherwise. Mr. LAMONT. In the case of the Argentine bonds we received none. Senator SEED. What other foreign bonds have you distributed? Sir. LAMONT. I will go on now to the others. Senator REED. I will thank you to do so. Mr- LAMONT- There were three Australian issues Senator GORE (interposing). Just a moment. Could you give us now the number of investment houses throughout the country that handled those bonds to thefinalpurchasers? Mr. LAMONT. I can not do that now, but I can furnish you in due course with the number of houses that were in our distributing syndicate. Senator GORE. And then can you give us the number of individual purchasers through those houses? Mr. LAMONT. N O ; we have no data on that whatsoever. Senator GORE. On some of your sales you do have that information, have you not? Mr. LAMONT. N O ; we do not sell directly to the investor ourselves. Senator GORE. The reason I asked you on that point is that I have had read to me Mr. Morrow's article published in a magazine, in which he accounted for distribution through 24 of your investment houses, or those you operated through, giving the number of individual purchasers of the different securities. M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator GORE. But you are not able to furnish that information generally? Mr. IJAMONT. Not generally. I recall that article very well, and, it was a very illuminating one. Senator GORE. It was, indeed. Mr. LAMONT. And he took especial pains, Senator Gore, to secure data as a basis for that article. Now, it may be that Mr. Mitchell, of the National City Bank, who is to follow me, and one of whoseorganizations has been very active in the distribution of bonds, will? be able to give you some data on tliat% But we have never gone into that Beyond the particular situation tfiat Senator Morrow described. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. How many distributing houses are there in your syndicate, I mean approximately ? Mr. LAMONT. I should say on A large issue there are several hundred, and it is possible it might go up to 1,000 in the case of some issues. But that will appear when we file the actual number in each issue. Senator GORE. In the case of the Anglo-French loan, it was 2,200, I believe. Mr. LAMONT. Yes, I think that was so. But that was an unusually large syndicate. You see, the amount involved was $500,000,000— larger than any other foreign government loan ever placed in this country, being the joint promise to pay of Great Britain and France. Senator REED. Now, Mr. Lamont, mil you go on to the next item? Mr. LAMONT. The next item is Australia. The total was $lG5r 000,000 of long-term bonds. 5 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator WATSON. Before you go to that. Mr. Lamont, will you permit me to inquire when you handled the last bonds for the Argentine? Mr. LAMONT. Certainly, Senator Watson. It was April 2 8 , 1927. Senator WATSON. What was the amount of that issue? Mr. LAMONT. The amount of that issue. Senator Watson, was §21,200,000. Senator JONES. I understood you to say that you got no compensation for handling these Argentine bonds or anv part of them. Mr. L A M O N T . Ko, Senator Jones, that would not be quite a correct way to state it. I said that we got no managing commission for organizing and managing the group that distributed them. But we had a "share in the various groups which distributed them, and in that way we received certain compensation, but simply pro rata on the same basis as other banks. Senator JONES. But in case of some bonds, you did receive a managing commission ? Mr. LAMONT. In the wise of some issues, we received a small managing commission, as we are going to tell you about here. Senator GORE. You say your last sale of bonds was when? Mr. L A M O N T . In the case of the Argentine it was April 28, 1927. Senator Gont\ Oh. Mr. LAMONT. Oh, yes; Senator Watson's question was dim-ted to the Argentine. Senator GORE. But you have made other loans since? M r . LAMONT. O h , y e s . Senator GORE. 1 supposed so. Mr. L A M O N T . No, Senator Reed; you asked me to go ahead. For Australia, $105,000,000 long-term bonds. We received a managing commission of one-eighth of 1 per cent in connection with those issues, and the rest ofthe spread was divided up as the record will show. It would take a great deal of time if I attempted to divide it all up here, but 1 can do so if you like. Senator REED. N O ; we have so many witnesses I will not ask you to go into all of those details at this time. Mr. L A M O N T . We will furnish you with complete data on that. Senator COSTIGAN. Are you prepared to state your compensation in full in each instance, not* merely your managing compensation but the total compensat ion ? Mr. L A M O X T . We are prepared to state it in a form from which it can be worked out. In other words, we have prepared these tables in percentage of cost: that is, in accordance with the contracts entered into with the particular governments. Anybody can reduce it to dollars and cents if he sees fit. Senator REED. What was the maximum spread in the case of the Australian loan ? Mr* L A M O X T . The maximum spread was 3 per cent. It varied from 2 t o 3 per cent, depending upon market conditions. Senator REED. All right. Mr. L A M O X T . Now, next is Austria, a total of $50,000,000. Senator GEORGE. Would you be good enough to give the dates of the first transaction and the last transaction? Mr. LAMONT* In the case of the Austrian loan? Senator GEORGE. In all cases. 6 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT. In that event we will go back: In the case of the Argentine loans, which I testified about (the first date in this postarmistice period that Senator Reed indicated), was June 2, 1925, and the last date, as I have already told you, was April 28, 1927. In the case of Australia, the first date was July 16, 1925, and the last date w^as May 8,1928. Now, we come to Austria: There were two loans, aggregating $50,000,000, as I have already indicated. The first was June 11, 1923, and the second was July 15, 1930. Senator GORE. What was the amount of the last loan ? Mr. LAMONT. The amount of each one was $25,000,000. ; Senator GORE; Thank you. Senator COUZENS. Have you indicated the spread in that case? Mr. LAMONT. I N the Austrian case ? Senator COUZENS. Yes. Mr. LAMONT. In the case of the first one it was per cent, and in the case of the second one it was 4 per cent, the gross spread. Senator REED. Was there any managing commission? Mr. LAM'ONTJ' In the case of "the first loan there was none whatsoever. As a managing commission in the case of the second loan it wTas one-fifth of 1 per cent. Senator BINGHAM. Did I understand you to say that the gross spread included all profits of all concerns handling them up to the final purchase by the ultimate investor? Mr. LAMONT. That is it. Of the original group and tlie further certain groups, and so forth, who purchase these bonds, from the Government, we will say, at a certain figure, and I'etail them finally to the investor at another figure, the difference represents the gross spread out of which all commissions, all expenses, all advertising, all profits and everything of that land, must be deducted. Senator BINGHAM. Are there more than two groups for it to be divided among? Mr. LAMONT. In some cases there are three groups. Senator BINGHAM. That is, do you mean the original syndicate? Mr. LAMONT. The original purchasers and sometimes an intermediate banking group, and then thefinalsyndicate, depending upon the conditions prevailing at the time. Sometimes as a matter of safety if the issue can not be handled immediately between the time of purchase and the time of distribution, the risk is distributed among the members of an intermediate group. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. In the listing of the spread wouldn't it be well to show in the record what you paid the Government for the bonds? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, certainly that shows in this record that I have here. For instance, in the case of one Australian bond issue the price was 98 and the total spread was two and a half points, which as you will see would make the price that the Government received 95%. Thatwill all appear in this record that we have. Senator BARKLEY. Let me interrupt for a moment in order to get my mind clear as to the difference between your compensation, in wrhicli you share in prorata percentage with the other institutions, and what you call your managerial compensation. <In some cases, as I understand it, in addition to-sharing the compensation received by 7 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES the other institutions, yon have an item which you call a manager's compensation. Mr. L A M O N T . Quite so. Senator B A R K L E Y . Which is in addition to that prorata compensation, and which I assume is charged for the responsibility and effort of handling the whole issue. Mr. L A M O N T . For the responsibility, yes, and the actual work involved, which is very heavy and very expensive in itself, in managing such a syndicate in these large instances. To tell you the truth, gentlemen of the committee, I am a little mortified in indicating the very limited amount of managing commissions that we have received. I ain afraid I may invoke the sympathy and pity of the committee too much. Senator BARKEEY. Why would that compensation apply in some cases and not in others when you assume the original responsibility in all cases? Mr. L A M O N T . It would depend upon the circumstances in the case of any particular issue. Where one could see that the amount of managerial work involved was going to be very heavy you would arrange for yourself a fraction of a commission to try to cover that. In a case wfiere the work was not going to be so heavy you might omit it entirely. In the case of the first Austrian loan, there as a matter of principle, we declined to take any compensation because that was considered more or less in the light of a public duty, if we can call it that. Austria was on the verge of collapse, and* this loan had been arranged by the allied nations of Europe and a guaranty given it by certain nations* It was for the purpose of trying to rehabilitate the economic situation of a people suffering froni depression and almost in despair, and we made a very extraordinary endeavor to have the expense just as light as possible. Senator B A R K L E Y . But you have no such rule to apply generally? In other words, each case stands upon its own bottom? Mr. L A M O N T . Yes; each case stands upon its own merits. Senator GORE. That was one initiated under the League of Nations? Mr. L A M O N T . The finance section of the league Nations worked out the plan, yes. Xow, shall I proceed, Mr. Chairman? The C H A I R M A N . Yes: if you please. Mr. L A M O N T . We have got through the A's, namely the Argentine, Australia, and Austria. Now, we come to the B?s, and first is Belgium. We issued a total of long-term bonds for Belgium of $260,000,000. The first one was June 1,1!>20, and the last one was October 23,1926. Senator GEORGE. Did you show the houses that handled all the securities for those countries that you have named, or do vou know that? Mr. L A M O N T . Well, the data that we will furnish, Senator George, will show exactly what houses were associated with us in the original group,- what lrbuses, if any, were associated with the original group. Senator GEORGE.- I fchould have said your syndicate. Did they have other agents here who also handled some securities? 8 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT. We were not agents in the ordinary sense of that word. That is, our house had no fixed agency arrangements with any of these governments. They were all free to go elsewhere at any time they liked. But as a matter of fact, practically speaking as long as we were serving them acceptably, just as in the case of the old family doctor, they stuck to their bankers. Senator GEORGE. And so far as Belgium was concerned, it dealt entirely through your house? Mr. LAMONT. Belgium dealt entirely through our house and the Guaranty Trust Co. It was a so-called joint account. And in the same way with other issues, as will appear from the data we give you, various nations dealt with us and the National City Bank on joint account. But that will all appear on the record here. The CHAIRMAN. Have you that in your record there? Mr. LAMONT. Yes; but I should like to make the point if I may that we have no fixed agency arrangements with any of these governments, not even with the British, the French, or any of them. They are as free as the air to go elsewhere as they may like. t Senator GORE. In January, 1915, you made arrangements with the British Government? You were the fiscal agent of the British Government as per an arrangement of January, 1915. M N LAMONT; Of what year? Senator GORE. 1915. Mr. LAMONT. That arrangement I think, Senator Gore, that you allude to, was of a different order. We had a commercial agency arrangement, so called, under which we undertook in behalf of the British Government to purchase all the great bulk of their supplies in this country, their supplies of grain and provisions, and raw materials and all that sort of thing, because they wanted on obvious grounds an orderly conduct of the matter to have their perfectly enormous purchases in this country during that period, before we got into the war,* handled as promptly and expeditiously as possible. Senator GOKE. But that did not relate to the sale or flotation of securities ? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, no. We did float more than one loan for the British Government, but each loan stood on its own bottom as it came along. Senator WALSH of Massachusetts. Did you not enter into a writteii agreement with those countries? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, in the case of any particular loan wTe enter into what is called a loan contract, yes, in the case of every single issue. Senator WALSH of Massachusetts. But up to that time they are free to go to any banking house they choose to in order to float the loan, are they ? Mr. LAMONT. Yes; and after that particular issue is completed they are free to go anywhere they please again, v The CHAIRMAN. Can you, Miv Lamont, in the case of each one of these countries, give us the length of time in which a bond issue was to run, from the date of issue to the date of payment ? Mr. LAMONT. Yes. And even in the case of this rough table which I had prepared for my own use here to-day I have indicated not only the total amount of the original issue, but the amount of bonds stiu outstanding under that issue. In the case of several of these issues the entire amount has already been retired. For instance, in the 9 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES case of the Belgian, the first two issues aggregated $80,000,000 and have already been completely retired. In the case of these other issues, the operation of the sinking fund, which, of course, is a very important point in our scheme of things in protecting the American investor, has resulted in a reduction by a material amount of the bonds outstanding. You can take the case of the first Austrian issue, which was $25,000,000, and the operation of the sinking fund means that the amount outstanding has been reduced to below $18,000,000. The C H A I R M A N . Will that all appear in the statement that will go in the record? Mr. L A M O N T . That will all appear in the statement. The C H A I R M A N . Very well. You may proceed. Senator COUZENS. Except the spread. Senator L A FOLLETTK. Except the spread or where you receive*! any managerial commission. Mr. L A M O N T . In the case of the Belgian loans the total spread varied from 6 points, or (5 per cent, in the early loans when the market was very, very difficult, down to 4 points in the last loan. Senator L A FOI-LETIE. Did you have any commission there, Mr. Lamont? Mr. L A M O N T . I am now looking that up. In the case of the first two Belgian loans, Senator La Follette, we did not have any commission. In the case of the third loan we had a commission o^ threetwentieths of 1 per cent The C H A I R M A N (interposing). Was that the second loan? Mr. L A M O N T . The third loan. As I have said, in the first two loans we did not have any managing commission. In the case of the fourth loan we hud a commission of two hundred and twenty-five onethousandths of 1 per cent. In the case of the fifth and sixth loans we had, in each instance, a commission of one-fifth of I per cent. I think thatfinisheswith Belgium. Senator SHORTCIDGE. Did you give the total amount of the issues separately? Mr. L A M O N T . Yes; the total amount was $ 2 6 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , distributed among five issues. The'CHAIRMAN. Y O U may proceed. Mr. L A M O N T . Next comes Canada with $105,348,000. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. At what time? Mr L A M O N T . April 2 5 , 1 9 2 2 . Well, now, there seems to be a little discrepancv here which will have to be straightened out. The large table that r I have says $100,000,000: and the small summary that I have says $105^48.000. But that was the only Canadian long-term issue. ffhe gross spread was 2*/2 per cent; managing commission, none. Senator L A FOIXETTE] What was the last date? Mr. L A M O N T . There was onty one issue, and that was April 2 5 , 1922. We apparently have one issue for Chile—but, before we leave Canada Senator SHORTRIDGE (interposing); What was the life of the Canadian bonds? Mr. L A M O N T . The life of TH6 Canadian bonds meant that they ran from 1922 to a maturity in 1952, a 30-yfcar bond. Senator COUZENS. AVhat is your distinction between a short-term bond and a long-term bond! 10 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT. My general distinction is this, Senator Couzens. that a long-term bond is the form of obligation that investors all over the country are seeking to obtain, in order to have a stable rate of interest over a long period of time. Short-term notes or something of that kind, which I will allude to briefly later on, have to do more with investments for banks, such as short-time paper that revolves quickly and matures. Senator COUZENS: In the matter of years or months, what is the distinction between long term and short term? For instance, say there are bonds issued for 5, 10, or 20 years, what is the general distinction when you refer to them as long-term or short-term bonds?. Mr. LAMONT. That would probably vary according to the opinion of various experts. I suppose we would call a long-term issue anything from 10 years up. It would be unusual to have any issue maturing between a 5 and 10 year maturity, and five years or under we would call a short-term issue. I think that in general would be a proper distinction. Senator COUZENS. None are issues serially but all forfixedperiods, do you mean ? Mr. LAMONT. That is almost always true. But the serial effect is reached by means of the operation of the sinking fund. Senator COUZENS. Oh, yes; I understand that, but I meant in the hand of the owner they are not serial. Mr. LAMONT. Not serial as a usual thing. Senator KJNG. D O I understand that the interest rates begin at the date of issue' or only after the bonds have actually been sold? Mr. LAMONT. Interest dates arefixedin each instance by contract. That is to say, suppose we were issuing a bond in the middle of September, usually the interest date would be fixed as of the 1st of October and the 1st of April; and the investor would, of course* whenever he paid for the bond, receive any accrued interest, if there was any. Senator COUZENS. May I ask at that point: Does the agency that sells these securities act as trustee also for the sinking fund? Mr. LAMONT. The issuing house or some trust company that may be designated acts as trustee for the sinking fund. Senator COUZENS. Obviously there have been some difficulties in this country, where the issuing house also acts as trustee for the sinking fund. Is Jthat a wise practice, for the issuing house to act as trustee for the sinking fund ? , Mr. LAMONT. I had not heard of the instance you allude to. In the case of our house I venture with some lack of modesty to say that it is a very wise practice. Senator COUZENS. There have been cases that have come to my attention where the issuing house also was trustee for the sinking fund, and they diverted the sinking fund for other purposes. I am not saying that it applies to your house or to any other; house. M r . LAMONT. O h , n o . Senator COUZENS. I mean that there is a hazard there, that the investor does not sem to be adequately protected. Mr. LAMONT. I had hot heard of those instances. Of course, we must always presume that the investor^ who has a growing desire for information and intelligence on these points, will buy his bonds from a house whose reputation is of high standing, or of a bank; 11 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator REED. Needless to say that has never happened in the case of any of your issues. M r . LAMONT. O h , n o . Senator COUZENS. Tell us why you think it is a wise policy to have the issuing house also the trustee of the sinking fund? Mr. L A M O N T . Well, I do not know just what is the answer to that. It is the usual practice. It has been the banking practice for generations, both in this country and abroad. The house that issues bonds is supposed to be more closely in touch with the conditions existing in the country of issue, and it is the natural thing that the operation should be centered there. You take the case of two outstanding German Government issues which our house handled—the Dawes plan loan in 1924 and the Young plan loan in 1930—and there has been some question at times in the public mind whether the German Government was depositing promptly and fully the amounts in the case of those two issues with its sinking fund agent. We happen to have knowledge that it is and always has. That is a very valuable tiling, for some one in authority to know and to be able to inform legitimate inquirers as to the situation: you see. Senator COUZENS. I S there any limitation placed upon the agent as to how he may invest that smiting fund? Mr. L A M O N T . Oh, certainly: that is all prescribed in the contract between the Government ancf the issuing house. Of course, the sinking fund in America is used very largely for the retirement from the market of outstanding bonds, just as t have quoted in this case of Austria. Senator COUZENS. And in some cases there may be a very large profit to the sinking fund by buying their own securities below market value. Mr. L A M O N T . In some c&ses that is possible. Senator ICINO. And that enures to the issuing company. Mr. L A M O N T . It enures to the issuing government. Cut in the case of these European governments and cases of that kind, I do not think it has been very marked. I could get information on it, probably. Senator COUZENS. Would it not be of a very marked nature under existing bond market conditions? Mr. L A M O N T . It would be if foreign governments were able to take advantage of it. Senator COUZENS. Might not the sinking fund take advantage of this depre&sed market on bonds ? Mr. L A M O N T . I suppose if the sinking fund contained a provision that would enable the Government to go into the open market and buy the bonds it would. Senator COUZENS. Well, isn't that true? Mr. L A M O N T . N O ; it does not always contain such a provision. Sometimes it does provide that bonds "shall be retired by lot or by drawing. Mr. Mitchell, I take it* knows more about tkese thingV than I do. But that is the way it works. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Are the contracts which you make with these governments submitted to the State Department for approval? Mr. L A M O N T . Not the contracts. 12 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. What is your relation to the State Department about these foreign loans? Mr. LAMONT. I would answer that question by saying this. In 1920 President Harding requested bankers in New York, and I think also in Chicago, to come to Washington, and explained to them that before they undertook to make any issues of foreign government bonds he would like to'have it arranged with the State Department that it should have cognizance of such projected issues, ana the department would have the privilege, if they so desired, of intervening in any particular instance. The bankers all acquiesced in such an arrangement. So far as our particular house was concerned there was nothing new in that matter. We had always informed the State Department, by word of mouth or however it might be done, of any foreign issue. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Has that practice continued up to the present time? Mr. LAMONT. Yes ; although in recent years Washington has not, so far as I have been able to judge, made so much of it. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. In the case of Cuba, is there any different arrangement with the State Department? Don't you have to get their approvalfirst? Mr. LAMONT. I do not believe I can answer the technique of that, Senator Walsh. Of course, the relationship between the United States Government and Cuba as set forth in the so-called Piatt resolutionSenator W A L S H of Massachusetts (interposing). The Piatt amendment, you mean. Mr. LAMONT. Yes; the Piatt amendment—always comes in. But we have been very careful in every instance to notify the State DeSartment, so that I would not make any distinction in the case of !uba. Senator BINGHAM. Isn't it true that the Piatt amendment requires the Cuban Government to secure,the approval of the American Government before it canfloatany foreign loans? Mr. LAMONT. I think you are right on that. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Is it not more acute in the case of Cuba? Senator BINGHAM. Yes; it is under our own law. Senator COUZENS. Have you any record of where the State Department has issued an affirmative letter on these proposed loans, affirming the sale of them? Senator REED. You mean approving the issue? Senator COUZENS. Yes. Mr. LAMONT. They do not do it in affirmative form. They have done it heretofore in negative form. That is to say, our practice has been to call up the Secretary of State or one of his assistants and say that" we have under negotiation with, for instance, the Belgian Government, an issue of $25,000,000, which we propose to make on or about such and such a date, and would you be good enough to inform us in advance as to whether the department interposes any objection. And we confirm that in writing, and would probably receive from the State Department in the course of a few days, after it has consulted with the Treasury Department and the Department 13 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES of Commerce, a simple letter stating: M We have received your letter of such and such date and do not desire to interpose any objection." Senator COUZENS. Is your understanding of that matter what Senator Glass generally means when he speaks of the State Department O. K.ing these foreign loans t Mr. L A M O N T . I would assume that that is what Senator Glass has in mind, on the ground that the absence of objection constitutes a blanket approval, which, of course, we have never seen, with all due respect to Senator Glass. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts Do you know whether the representatives of these countries consult the State Department first before they take up the matter with you? Mr. L A M O N T . I can answer that in a general way. I assume that thejj do not, because they rely upon us to do that. It is not a diplomatic matter; it is a financial matter. Senator GORE. They have never disapproved of more than two proposed loans, have they ? Mr. L A M O N T . I do not believe I can answer that. Senator GORE. The potash proposition to France and the.Brazilian Government with regard to coffee? Mr. L A M O N T . Well, you have got that more clearly in mind than I have, Senator. Senator GORE. I do not think they did. Senator CONNALLT. Regardless of how it is construed, when you advise the department that you want to float these loans and it savs they have no objections * M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator CONNALLY. Y O U construe it as being all right and they go ahead ? Mr. L A M O N T . Senator, we construe simply this: We construe that there is no point of high politics involved which is of such great importance as to lead the Government of the United States to Slink it unwise for us to have such initial negotiations. Senator B A R K L E Y . In case the State Department registers an objection the loan is notfloated,is it? Mr. L A M O N T . Oh, certainly not. Senator B I N G H A M . Do you, in your advertisements, advertise the fact that this loan has been approved by the United States Government? M r . LAMONT. W e d o n o t . Senator COUZENS. D O you know of any house that does? Mr. L A M O N T . I have not know any such, Senator Couzens. The C H A I R M A N . Mr. Lamont, did Brazil make an application to you for a loan and it was disapproved by the Treasury Department or the State Department? Mr. L A M O N T . I will answer that, Senator Smoot, by saying that we have never had any financial relations with the Brazilian Government, and so thev have never made application. The C H A I R M A N . Have you with Santo Domingo? M r . LAMONT. N o . Senator REED. D O YOU interpret the absence of objection as being in any sense affirmation of the Stafe Department that the loan is a secure one or that the credit is good? 02928—31—PTl—:—2 14 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT. Why, Senator Reed, in no sense have we ever made such construction. Senator REED. They do not undertake to pass upon the solvency or the continued security of the loan? Mr. LAMONT. They have never given to us any indication of any such authority. Senator GORE. I think the State Department has positively disclaimed any such implication or responsibility. Mr. LAMONT. NO; they made it plain, as I said to the Senator on my left a moment ago, that it was only a question of some high politics involved about which the bank would be presumably in ignorance but which affected the interests of the United States. Government. Senator REED. They have never presumed to pass upon the security of the loan? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, never. Never. But I suppose in the case of all governments or small countries, if they had any special information as to pending revolutions or anything like that, they would give a friendly worn to the inquiring house. But as for any affirmatory investigation of the kind you mentioned, never. Senator HARRISON. Mr. Lamont, has your house had anything to do with the Nicaraguan bonds, or were they all witli the house that issued the first bonds many years ago? Mr. LAMONT. We have never had anything to do with the Nica raguan bonds. Shall I proceed with this summary? The CHAIRMAN. Yes; proceed. Mr. LAMONT. I was going back to Canada, because under Canada there were two very small issues of Province of Manitoba bonds, aggregating a little over $5,000,000, and both of them have matured now. Senator BINGHAM. That is the discrepancy in that figure of $5,000,000. Mr. LAMONT. Oh, I guess it is. You are right. Thank you. Senator REED. Those bonds have been paid, have they ? Mr. LAMONT. Those bonds have been paid; yes. Now we come to Chile. We had one issue of bonds on February 15, 1921, all of which have been redeemed. Senator L A FOLLETTE. What was the amount? Mr. LAMONT. The amount was $ 2 4 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , Senator. Senator SHORTRIDGB. What rate of interest? Mr. LAMONT. They were 8 per cent bonds. Senator COTJZENS. And the spread ? Mr. LAMONT. The gross spread was 5 per cent. The managing commission was nothing. Next we come to two issues of Republic of Cuba bonds, aggregating $59,000,000, the first made on January 15* 1923, the second July 1, 1927. Senator BINGHAM. Mr, Lamont, may I ask a question with regard ; to the Chilean loan? Mr. LAMONT. Certainly, i Senator B I N G H A M . D O you< happen to know how that came to be paid off so promptly? Were they able to refund them at a low rateof interest through some other country? 15 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. L A M O N T . I assume that that was the case. I assume that that was the case, but I do not know, but I can have it looked up. Senator B I N G H A M . They did not refund them by any loans which you floated? Mr. L A M O N T . N O ; they did not refund them through us. Senator B I N G H A M . D O you know if they were refloated in this country ? Mr. JLAMONT. That I do not know. Senator B I N G H A M . Will you let us know ? Mr. L A M O N T . Yes: although it is possible that some* one of the other witnesses whom you may call that had to do with the subsequent issues may be able to inform you. But we can look it up. Now, let us see: Cuba bonds, the gross spread in one instance was 2.48 per cent commission, and the other instance 1.122 per cent commission. Senator HARRISON. Mr. Lamont, did your house float more than one issue of the Cuban bonds? M r . LAMONT. TWO. Senator HARRISON. T W O issues I M r . LAMONT. TWO. O n e i n 1923 a n d o n e i n 1927. Senator HARRISON. The National City and the Chase Bank floated loans for Cuba, did they not? Mr. L A M O N T . I recall that the Chase Bank did. I do not recall about the National City Bank, Senator, but Mr. Mitchell, when lie comes on the stand, will be able to inform you undoubtedly. Now we come to France: A total of $300,000,000 of boncls in three issues: the first. September 3,1920; the second, November 24, 1924. Senator L A I«\U.LETTE. And the third ? Mr. LAMONT.- Excuse me—the first is September 3 , 1 9 2 0 ; the second, May 23, 1921; and the third, November 24, 1924, each for a hundred'million dollars. The first issue has been completely retired. The second issue has been reduced from a hundred to below $01,000,000. The third issue has been reduced from a hundred million to below $71,000,000. The gross spread in these loans ranged from 5 to 6 per cent. In the case of the first two loans there was no managing commission. In the case of the third loan there was one-quarter of 1 per cent. The C H A I R M A N . And the rate of interest? Mr. L A M O N T . The rate of interest on the first loan was 8 per cent: second, 7 t h i r d , 7. The rate of interest declined, as you can see, as market "conditions improved, manifestly. Senator SHORTRIDGE. And the life of the bonds? Mr. L A M O N T . The first issue in 1 9 2 0 was due 2 5 years thereafter: the second was due in 20 vears, and the third in 25. As I sav, of the total of $ 3 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 all but about $ 1 3 1 , 5 0 0 , 0 0 0 have now "been retired. Senator COUZENS. When you say " retired/' you mean the sinking fund has retired? They may be in the hands of the public, though, may they not? Mr. LAMONT* NO; retired; taken out of the hands of the public: no longer outstanding. Senator COUZENS. You mean called ? M R , L A M O N T . Called. 16 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator COUZENS. And the percentage was added for the calling privilege, was it not? Mr. LAMONT. Was added for what? Senator COUZENS. A percentage was added for the privilege of calling, was there not ? Mr. LAMONT. Percentage to; whom I Senator COUZENS. T O the owner. Usually a bond carries 1 or 2 per cent for the privilege of calling. Mr. LAMONT. I could not answer that, Senator, in these particular instances, but there is no secret about the arrangements. Senator COUZENS. NO; I understand. Mr. LAMONT. And it may be made clear in every instance. Senator SIIORTRIDGE. When you say it was retired, do you mean it has been paid off? Mr. LAMONT. Paid off. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Paid off? Mr. LAMONT. Yes. So that the total obligations of the Government of France in this country in long-term bonds out of these three issues is now $131,000,000 instead of $300,000,000. Senator COUZENS. Does the issuing bank receive a specific security or does it just have the general obligation of the country? Mr. LAMONT. That depends in different instances, Senator Couzens. IN the case of the larger countries it is usually simply on the good faith, on the absolute obligation of the government to pay it themselves* Senator COUZENS. In the case of the two issues in Germany? M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator COUZENS. There was specific collateral put up, and it was not the general obligation of the country in those cases? Mr. LAMONT. There were specific revenues allocated. Senator COUZENS. Yes. Mr. LAMONT. And that is the next item on my list and, if I may, I will acquaint you with that as I come to it. Senator COUZENS. That is all right. Senator HARRISON. Mr. Lamont, you said the last issue of the French securities was in 1924? Mr. LAMONT; That is right, 1924. Senator HARRISON. What did they sell—those securities to the public? Mr. LAMONT; The issue price was 95. Senator HARRISON. Ninety-five? M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator HARRISON; Was France J in 1 9 2 6 ; in as good condition-— Mr. LAMONT (interposing). Wait a mintite; the 1 9 2 4 bonds were sold at 94. ^ Senator HARRISON. Was France, in your opinion, in as good condition, economically in 1 9 2 6 as they were in 1 9 2 4 ? There was somewhat of an improvement, was there not ? Mr. LAMONT. So much water has flowed over the dam, Senator, that I do not know; whether I can cudgel my memory enough to detail what France's exact economic position was in those years by way of comparison. Her general condition would be measured bv her credit in the public markets. Do you see? Now, if you will fell me what you have in mind, perhaps I can clear up your mind on it. 17 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator believe ? HARRISON. M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator HARRISON. What I have in mind Is that these sold at 94,1 We funded the French debt in 1 9 2 0 , 1 think, on the basis of 51, They got a very good bargain, did they not? Mr. L A M O N T . Well, it is not for me to pass upon, either approve or disapprove the arrangements the United States Government made. 1 thought the United States Government, in general, made very excellent arrangements with its debtor countries. Senator HARRISON. They were very generous in that funding agreement I Mr. L A M O N T . Well, I am not prepared to enter into motives of generosity or nongenerosity. I think that they made a very good arrangement. The C H A I R M A N , is it not true, Mr. Lamont. that their currency went all to pieces, the franc went down to 2 cents just before that settlement was made J Mr. L A M O N T . When did you say that was? The C H A I R M A N . In 1 9 2 0 was when the settlement was made. Mr. LAM.OXT. Why, yes. Now, as you remind me, it comes back. The franc began a precipitous decline some time in 1924, and it got worse and worse, and in May, 192G, or April, 1926, there was complete •despair on the whole subject of the franc, and the general prognosis was that the franc was going over the dam. The C H A I R M A N . It was freely sold, however, at 2 cents? Mr. L A M O N T . I do not remember the exact figure, but it was very, very low. It was not until Poincare came back into power and had been in power some months and succeeded in stabilizing the franc that French Government finance began to come back. Senator GORE. That was in 1 9 2 7 or 1 9 2 8 , was it not? Mr. L A M O N T . Well, I should think that was 1 9 2 7 ; yes. Perhaps it was early in 1927 that things began to look better. Well, let us see. Sometime in 1920 he took such measures as gave a better look to the situation, late in 1920. The C H A I R M A N . Stabilized the franc at 5 cents? Mr. L A M O N T . Not as high as that. About 4 cents. Senator HARRISON. At 4. Senator GORE. About 4 . 9 1 and a fraction. Senator JOIIN>ON. Was either one of these French issues purchased outright bv Morgan & Co. ? Mr. L A M O N T . They were all purchased outright by Morgan & Co. and their immediate associates. Senator JOHNSON. Yes. At what price, if you please, did they purchase the French issues? Mr. L A M O N T . I can answer that best by indicating the issue price and the spread, which, subtracted from the issue price, gives you the price that they netted the Government of France. Is that what you want? Senator JOHNSON. I wantfirst—asI understood, one of the issues was purchased outright by J. P. Morgan & Co. Mr. L A M O N T . They were all purchased outright by ourselves, and our associates, Senator; yes. Senator J O H N S O N . Let me see if I can understand i t If I am in terror, I beg your pardon, but perhaps I may refresh your recollec 18 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES tion in that regard. Was there not one issue that was purchased outright by Morgan & Co. and that subsequently was syndicated in the fashion in which these loans are syndicated ? Mr. LAMONT. Well, now, my record would not indicate that. I can have that special point looked up. Take the case of thefirstloan, Senator Johnson; it was a hundred million dollars. The issue price was par, and there was a gross spread of 6 points, which would mean that France netted 94 for that. And the original group consisted of four houses. The second one was issued at 95 with a gross spread of 5 per cent which made 90 net that the Government of France secured, and in the original group purchase there were four parties again. The last one was issued at 94 with a gross spread of 5 per cent, making 89 net, and there again there were a group of four in the original purchase. Senator JOHNSON. All right; the four that you name were the original purchasers outright of the entire issues; is that correct ? Mr. LAMONT. That is correct. Senator JOHNSON. Yes, sir. Senator GORE. Who were the parties? Senator JOHNSON. All right; Senator Gore asked who were the four? Mr. LAMONT. I would have to look that up, and I will furnish it in the general record that I furnish. Senator JOHNSON. Now. subsequently, after the purchase thus by the four—— M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator JOHNSON. At the specific price that you have indicated, in syndicating these bonds was anything charged the syndicate by the four? Mr. LAMONT. No; it was not put in that form, Senator Johnson. I would not put it in that form. The original group of four purchased them at thefiguresI have indicated, and they resyndicated them to the next group, respectively, at a half of 1 per cent up and at three-quarters of 1 per cent up. Senator JOHNSON. Yes. That is the original four purchased them and they formed another syndicate; that is correct, is it not? Mr. LAMONT. Yes; in which the original four had an interest. Senator JOHNSON. In which the original four had an interest ? M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator JOHNSON. And the original four received one-lialf per cent and three-quarters per cent? Mr. LAMONT. That is it. Senator JOHNSON. In forming that new syndicate? M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator JOHNSON.^ Then the second syndicate thus-formed retailed the bonds at par, did they not? Mr. LAMONT. NO. In those instances, because the issues involved were so considerable, and the market was in such a state as it seemed wise to require it, there was formed a third, a final, distributing [syndicate; Senator JOHNSON. Yes. So that there were the first four, then the second syndicate from whom or to whom was charged the 1 per cent or the half per cent or the three-quarters* as the case may be? SALE OF FOISKIGX RON OS OH SEC IT It IT IKS M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator JOHNSON. M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator JOHNSON. 19 Then there was a third syndicate formed? Was that syndicate charged, then, any percentage of the price? Mr. L A M O N T . The third syndicate—yes; they got the larger amount of spread. Thefinalsyndicate got the larger amount because the actual work of distribution fell upon that final syndicate more fully. Thov got 4 per cent, respectively, 4 per cent and 3 per cent. Senator JOHNSON. N O W , let us start with the prices paid for those three issues by the original syndicate of four. M r . L A M O N T . Yes:. Senator JOHNSON. What were those prices, please? Mr. L A M O N T . Those prices were, respectively. 94 Senator B I N G H A M (interposing). 0 0 and 8 9 ! Mr. L A M O N T . 90 and 89; that is right. Senator JOHNSON. 9 4 , 9 0 . and 8 9 ? M r . LAMONT. Y e s , sir. Senator JOHNSON. For what sum or for what price were those bonds ultimately then sold by the last syndicate to the people generally. or to banks generally * Mr/ L A M O N T . They were ultimately sold to the investor, respectively. at 100, 95. and 94. The banks as purchasers are usually allowed a small commission as purchasers. Senator B I N G H A M . Then that accounts for what you call the spread of the 6 per cent on the first loan, 6 per cent on the second Mr. L A M O N T (interposing). Five on the second. Senator B I N G H A M . Five on the second and 5 on the third? Mr. L A M O N T . That is it. Senator JOHNSON. Would you give, please, the dates of the three issues each in a hundred million dollars? M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator JOHNSON. That have been dealt with in the fashion that you have just detailed? Mr. L A M O N T . Certainly* September 3 , 1 9 2 0 , May 2 3 . 1 9 2 1 , November 2 4 , 1 9 2 4 . Senator JOHNSON. Thank you. Senator B I N G H A M . Now, Mr. Lamont, may I make an inquiry? Mr. L A M O N T . Certainly. Senator B I N G H A M . I notice in a number of these issues where the issue came out in 1920 or 1921, as, for instance, in the Belgian loan in 1020, where the spread was 6 per cent; Chilean loan of 1921, where the spread was 5 per cent; the French loan of 1921, where the spread was 0 per cent—that the spread seems to bo very much greater than bonds issued later, as, for instance, the Cuban "loan of 1927, where the spread was only 1.122, and the Canadian loan. SIR. L A M O N T . Y e s . Senator B I N G H A M . Where the spread was only 2 ^ Mr. L A M O N T . To be sure. Senator B I N G H A M . I am curious to know why it per cent? was possible in later years to do business at so much less profit, and why in the period of 1920 and 1921. which was, of course everybody remembers, the reconstruction period in this country, that it was necessary to charge such a high profit. 20 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT. That is, if you will allow me to say so, a very pertinent question. And when you use the word " profit," we are not able to use that word " profit." We'call it a " spread," because the most of it, the greater part of it, was absorbed in actual expenses, in distribution over our very wide territory in this country. For that reason we had to have a larger spread to work on in the houses throughout the country in the early postwar years, and it was because those were the days of early reconstruction in Europe before the countries were all, in the public mind, thoroughly back on their feet. And it took more of a process of enlightenment and explanation, for instance, to point, out why the obligation of the French Government, payable in United States dollars, with .the present degree of weight andfineness,was absolutely good than it did later on in the later years of this decade when conditions had become more stabilized. In this connection, your former colleague, Senator Morrow, and a dear friend of a great many of us, testified before a Senate committee, I think it was in 1926, on that very point, Senator. He covered it very fully—covered it really better than I can do to-day—and I would refer you to that testimony. He also covered at that time very carefully the process by which these ;bonds are distributed throughout the country, the necessary expenses involved by these various groups in seeing that they find ultimate lodgment in the hands of the investor. Senator WATSON. Mr. Lamont, they are distributed very largely to your correspondent.banks, are they not? Mr. LAMONT. Senator Watson, I would answer that by saying we do not have—our house, you see, is not a bank in itself; it is really a house of merchants. We do not have exactly what we call correspondent banks. We have what we call a cynaicate group that we utilize to distribute through from time to time as these issues arise. It is made up of banks and institutions which have distributing facilities and distributing houses, and so forth. The syndicate lists in any instance you like will be furnished to you. There is no secret about that. Senator HEED. Mr. Lamont, in estimating the reasonableness of this spread of which you have spoken, it is a fact, is it not, that you have to bear in mind the possibility that the syndicate will be unable to dispose of its bonds and may really incur a loss in each case ? Mr. LAMONT. Certainly, Senator Reed. In any case that arises where the syndicate has been unable to dispose of the bonds its members necessarily have to take over their pro -rata share of the bonds. Senator WATSON. Has that happened ? Mr. LAMONT. And, of course, every issuing house makes a great point of seeing to it, if possible, that there is not a comeback on the syndicate. But you are quite right in indicating that in each one of these groups part of the spread must be devoted, we will call it, to purposes of insurance ; that is to say, any risk of underwriting. Senator REED. In recent years it is a fact, is it not, particularly in Londonj that these distributing syndicates have been forced to absorb a great part of the issues? ' " 21 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. London has a very sad story on that, Senator Reed. . % . w|ne faffe o n i m n d s 0 f the underwriters in LAMONT. Senator W A T S O N . Has that very frequently occurred here, Mr. Lamont t Mr. L A M O N T . It has occurred sometimes, Senator Watson. I do not recall offhand instances of them, but probably there are. There is always the chance of it, you know. Senator COUZENS. Has the Morgan Co. had any experiences such as that ? Mr. L A M O N T . I suppose we must have had in our long term of Senator COUZENS (interposing). I mean in the last few years? Mr. L A M O N T . Senator Couzens, I honestly do not remember, be« cause those are details that do not come to my attention. Senator COUZENS. They could not have been very extensive for you to not remember, could they? Mr. L A M O N T . I think if they had been very extensive, nay memory would not fail me. Senator GORE. Will the supplementary data that you are going to file, Mr. Lamont, show the net profit ? You say the gross profit, and the expenses have to be deducted to arrive at the net profit? Mr. L A M O N T . That is it. Senator GORE. Will any of these that you arc going to file show your net profit? Mr. LAMONT* There is no way to arrive at that that I know of. Senator GORE. In making out your income-tax returns? Mr. LAMONT* Well, when you make out your income-tax returns you turn in your profit for the year after all your expenses of every kind have been paid. Senator GORE. I understand, but you have to show your net profits on each transaction. Mr. L A M O N T . We can not do it? because you would not know just how much to deduct for overhead m each particular instance, you see. Senator GORE. In connection with each particular instance, don't you arrive at your net profit? Mr. L A M O N T . I should not be able to say in any instance what-a net profit was. All I know is that we take any such commissions as finally accrue to us, and from that, of course^ there lias to be deducted all legal expenses—expenses of advertising, all that sort of thing, circularizing, and so forth—and then you arrive, perhaps, at a net figure, which if you wanted to arrive at a net profit would be again subject to deduction for overhead or something like that. But we never attempt to refine things down to that point. Senator B A R K L E V . Mr. Lamont, this contract that you enter into with each government for each individual loan provides in advance the amount of spread that should be applied to the loan ? Mr. L A M O N T . Oh* quite. Senator B A R K L E Y . I S that supposed to cover all these subconditions that are distributed among these subsyndicates where you have more than one? Mr. L A M O N T . It is not only supposed to but does, because the Government does not concern itself with how its spread is divided up. 22 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator BARKLEY. SO that the and three-quarters percentage which the subsyndicate, the third group, got, say, in the case of these French loans and any such syndicate commissions which might have been furnished to any groups or syndicates would be included in these three issues that you have given to apply to these loans? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, yes; completely. Senator WALSH of Massachusetts., Does the extent of the loan de-< pend upon the marketability of the bonds in the given country ? For instance, is not one of the explanations for the. difference between the spread in the French bonds and the Canadian and Cuban bonds the fact that Canadian and Cuban bonds are more easily marketable in this country ? Mr. LAMONT. Unquestionably, as applied to the conditions at that particular time. Unquestionably. . Senator WALSH of Massachusetts. Are-they not among the two best foreign bonds sold in this country,.considered by purchasers? Mr. LAMONT. Well, I would not want to express an opinion on that, Senator Walsh. The CHAIRMAN. During the time of the negotiations for these bonds the French franc was in a very precarious condition' Many thought it would go below 2 cents, did they not? Mr. LAMONT. Right. The CHAIRMAN. And that had some-— Mr. LAMONT (interposing). Well, a good many people, Senator, thought it would, go over the dam entirely, like the German mark,' The CHAIRMAN. And that had a great effect upon the amount of interest discount that was required to place those bonds in this country? Mr. LAMONT. Why, it had a very direct effect. It had a veryi direct effect; and, as your colleague here has pointed out, we were able gradually to make the issues on a slightly rising scale, but in the case of France back in those years, those difficult years, it was always a pretty heavy job for the distributors of the loans. Senator GORE. Mr. Lamont, when France stabilized the franc at less than 5 cents that cut down her domestic indebtedness four-fifths, did it not? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, yes; it cut down her domestic indebtedness and it cut down—you, could call it the so-called wealth of her people, by 80 per cent, because in effect she repudiated her obligation to her own people by 80 per cent. Senator GORE. Yes; that is, reduced the wealth of the bondholders? Senator BINGHAM. No; of all the people. Senator GORE. I would not think the diminution of their tax levy to pay the bonds would have injured the French people, if they had to levy only one-fifth as much taxes to pay these as they would other-; /wise. I mean the burden, the actual burden, taken from the people in the form of taxes: Mr. LAMONT. Of course, what we mean applies not only to the* French Government domestic bond issues themselves, which were in effect written off to the extent of 8 per cent, but it refers also to all contracts issued in francs. Senator GORE. Certainly; all time contracts. Mr. LAMONT. You are quite right about that. 23 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator GORE. Yon would not cure to express an opinion as to the wisdom of that action? Mr. LAMONT. The wisdom of the action of what? Senator GORE. On the part of France in revaluating the franc. Mr. LAMONT. Oh, no; 1 do not think it is a question of approving or disapproving. It was a question of what the—very arduous conditions that they were up against at that time. Unfortunately, I do not think they were able to do anything else. You remember that they had to spend in northern Francc enormous sums to get their people even decently housed again. Senator GORE. What I was getting at, regardless of the reason or justification, it was a form of repudiation? Mr. LAMONT. Certainly, just as in the case of Germany the entire value of the mark was repudiated, so to speak. In the case of Italy, not so much, but the Italian lira is worth cents—Senator Reed— something like that as against nineteen and a third originally. Senator GORE. And England slipping off the gold standard did indirectly the same thing? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, quite. Quite; just as we were off the gold standard in this countrv from 18G0, whatever it was, to 1877. 1878, or 1879. Senator GORE. Yes; 1 8 6 1 to 1 8 7 9 . Mr. LAMONT. We have all been through it. Senator GORE. Yes. Senator K I N G . Mr. Lamont, you stated that Senator Morrow lias given a memorandum of the methods by which these bonds were sold to the public. M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator K I N G . Was anything ever done by your syndicate or any other syndicate that you have any knowledge about that might be construed in the slightest way as coercion upon the part of your syndicate or any of your related banks to coerce other banks or other people to take part in this distribution ? Sir. LAMONT. Not the slightest, in anything that we ever heard or had to do with. Every bank or banking house to whom we addressed the syndicate letter ottering it participation in the syndicate has an absolute right to reject it, and they frequently do.* if it does not happend to suit their convenience. Senator K I N G . I think perhaps they might do that with reference to Morgan & Co., with their standing, but they might not do it with reference to other syndicates. Mr. LAMONT. Now, that is very complimentary of you, Senator. I appreciate it. But I think all syndicates exercised the same right of declination if it did not happen to suit their convenience at the time. Senator BARKLEY. SIR. Lamont, in connection with the observation you have just made relative to the effect of the English pound, of the slipping of England from the gold standard, you would not care to express an opinion as to the probable effect of all that upon the standard of value in the United States. It is not pertinent to this inquiry, but your opinion is very valuable. Sir* L A M O N T . Well, that is ever so good of you, but I think I would have to take a couple of days off with you and sit down—~ Senator BARKLEY (interposing)* I will not require you to do that.,* 24 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT. I would love to do it, if you give me time. We are under a little pressure these days, but any time we will be glad to compare notes on that. You spoke of Senator Morrow's testimony on the method of exSense of distributing these bonds throughout the country. Senator [orrow made another awfully good point, it seemed, to me, as I ran over his testimony again, and that was this point: He emphasized the fact that the banks throughout the United States, the banks in New York and all that sort of thing, are not" loaded up," using that phrase " loaded up," with the foreign bonds to the extent that a great many, people in the public think they are. There seems to be a general impression on the part of the public that these are bankers' bonds, that the bankers are loaded up with long-term bonds of countries all over the world and that their resources are impaired by the extent of those bond holdings, coincidental with the decline of domesticbonds, and that that is a very menacing—on the one hand—a very menacing point in the situation, and on the other constitutes a particular class of creditor whose object is to work together or to being some particular pressure to bear in some direction. Senator GORE. That is true now, Mr. Lamont? Mr. LAMONT. That is not true. Senator GORE. They are not loaded up now with these? Mr. LABIONT. I would say decidedly not, because, as Mr. Morrow pointed out, the method has been to distribute these bonds throughout the country and they are so distributed. Senator GORE. That is the point. Now, the shrinkage of value IN' these bonds occurred in the hands of the men that purchased them,, did it not? In other words, Tom, Dick, and Harry have taken the loss, not the bank? Mr. LAMONT. Well, it is a very deplorable thing that in the present depressed state of the world affairs, our private investors have been obliged to witness severe declines in United States Government bonds,; in foreign government bonds, in railroad bonds, industrial bonds, and every kind of bonds. Senator GORE. Yes. Mr. LAMONT. But answering your question: It has been and is today the great investing public upon which those declines have chiefly fallen, rather than on the banks. Of course, the banks—— Senator GORE (interposing). Has the policy of your house and the other banks been pretty much the same since the spring of 1927 as before that date with reference to theflotationof these bonds? You have handled quite a good many since then? Mr. LAMONT. I do not believe I get your point as to a particular* date. Senator GORE. Yes; since the spring of 1927, for instance. Mr. LAMONT. Oh, yes; we have had quite a lot since then. Senator GORE. The reason I asked that question, Mr. Lamont, I was reading a speech you made before the Pan American Conference here, and I thought it very wise myself, in which you seemed to see the clouds rising in this foreign-bond market, and said the American banker was sitting on the doorsteps of these European governments importuning them to accept money, and that municipalities and corporations were encouraged to compete for American inoneyi SALE OF FOKKZGN BONDS OB SECURITIES 25 Mr. L A M U N T . Now* Senator, did I make that speech before the Pan American Congress? Senator GORE. Yes, sir. Mr. L A M O N T . I remember being asked to make it, but I do not remember making it. Senator GORE. I have it here. Mr. L A M O N T . Oh, well, you have it. Senator GORE. Aiid I think it is good sense, I will say that, if it had been acted cm. Mr. L A M O N T . Good enough. I am glad I was guilty at some time of good sense. May I look at it? Senator GORE. YES. It is in there, and it is over the last speech. It has " read written under it. Mr. L A M O N T . Oh, this is back in 1 0 2 7 , You are right. Senator GORE. 1027. Mr. L A M O N T . Y O U are right. I thought you meant this spring. Senator GORE. It is a passage toward the last of it. Mr. L A M O N T . D O you want me to read it? Senator GORE. I wish yon would; yes, because I want to get it in the record. Mr. L A M O N T . All right. It is under a subheading, which is entitled tt Necessity to Exercise Caution," and it reads as follows: From the point of view of tin* American investor it is obviously necessary to scan the situation with increasing circumspection and to avoid rash or excessive lending. I have In mind the* report* that I have recently heard of American bunkers and linns competing on almost a violent scale for the purpose of obtaining loans in various foreign money markets overseas. Naturally it in a tempting tiling for certain of the Kuropean Government* to find a horde of American bankers fitting on their doorsteps offering them money. It if* rather demoralizing for municipalities and corporations in the frame countries to have money pressed upon them. That sort of competition tends to insecurity and unsound practice. The American inventor is ail intelligent Individual and can Iw relied upon to discriminate. Yet, in the flrst instance, such discrimination is the province of the banker who buys the goods rather than of the investor to whom he sells them. I may be accused of special pleading in uttering this warning, yet a warning needs to be given against indiscriminate lending and indiscriminate borrowing. Senator GORE. It seems to me, Mr. Lamont, that you at least saw a danger signal or a red light, and I was wondering whether it had been regarded or disregarded by the bankers since that speech was made? Mr. L A M O N T . Well. I do not think anybody can answer that in general terms, Senator. Senator GORE. The general policy has remained the same since then as before? Mr. L A M O N T . I think that most of the bankers of the country that were trying to keep in close touch with world conditions felt about as I have indicated there at that time. It was necessary to go very carefully; very cautiously. The C H A I R M A N . Mr. Lamont, have you a copy of the late Senator Morrow's letter? Mr. L A M O N T . Letter ? The C H A I R M A N . Testimony I should say. Mr. XIAMONT. IT was testimony. ( I T was before a Senate comjhittce. Senator COUZENS. What year was it, Mr. Lamont ? 26 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES M r . LAMONT. I t WAS 192G. The CHAIRMAN. I would like Mr. LAMONT. It was not a to have it in this record. letter; it was a series of replies to inquiries from the Senators. Senator JOHNSON. It was in an examination, that was held before this committee, in which the examiner really was the Senator from Mississippi in the main, and Senator Morrow testified quite at length. I have a copy of it. That, if the chairman desires, I will bring to him this afternoon. The CHAIRMAN. Give it to me and I will have it put in the record at this point. Senator REED. It may go in at the close of this hearing. We: do not want to break in Mr. Lamont's testimony. » (The matter referred toby.the chairman appears in the appendix.) Mr. LAMONT. Yes. In the course of Mr. Morrow's testimony he alluded to a letter that I addressed to Representative LaGuardia on some points on which he had been misinformed, you see, and I have a copy of that letter with me, as a matter of fact. Senator HARRISON. Are you familiar with the -article that he wrote in Foreign Affairs? Mr. LAMONT. Yes. That would be very valuable. Senator GORE. I have that here. The CHAIRMAN. At the close of your testimony have it put in the record. (The article referred to appears in the appendix.) Mr. LAMONT. Yes. Thank you. Do you desire me to proceed now, Senator, with/this list ? The CHAIRMAN. Proceed; yes. Mr. LAMONT. Wefinishedwith France. We come to Germany. A total of long-term bonds of' $208,250,000. Senator BINGHAM. Date ? Mr. LAMONT. October 14,1924, was thefirstone. Senator REED. That was the Dawes loan? Mr. LAMONT. That was the so-called Dawes loan, Senator, $110,000,000. That was all so far as this country is concerned. The second was June 12,1930, the so-called Young loan, $98,250,000. Of course these data that I am giving you are already all a matter of public record, with the exception of the details of the spread which Senator Johnson wanted to know about particularly. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. What was the interest on those loans ? Mr. LAMONT. The interest on the first bonds, Senator, was 7 per cent, and on the second issue it was o1/^ P er cen^* Senator SHORTRIDGE. What'is the life of the several issues? Mr. LAMONT. Twenty-five years was the life of the first and 36 years the life of the second. The respective spreads were 5 per cent on the 1924 loan, and 4 per cent on the 1930 loan. Senator REED. How did those spreads correspond with the spreads received by the European bankers on that part of those loans that was taken abroad—substantially the same? Mr. LAMONT. IT was substantially the same; in one or two instances a little less, I think, and in one or two a little more. They varied according to the banking practice in the different countries. 27 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator W A T S O N . Were other German bonds floated in this country, to your knowledge, through other houses if AIR. L A M O N T . N O other German Government bonds. Senator Watson. Senator W A T S O N . That is what I meant. You had the sole issue. M R . L A M O N T . These are the two sole issues of German Government bonds. I suppose there are municipal and perhaps provincial bonds. Senator WATSON. I mean German Government bonds. Mr. L A M O N T . The total obligations of the German Government were confined, in this country, to these two issues, which have been reduced, respectively, by the" operation of the sinking fund, in the instance of thefirst"issue,already to under $77,000,000. It has been reduced about thirty-three million odd dollars from the top. In the case of the sec-owl bond, although issued only in 1930, a year and a half ago, it has been reduced to $95,670,000. Senator W A T S O N . Has there been any default whatever in any payment on those bonds? Mr. L A M O N T . N O default whatever. The German Government has been most meticulous in complying with all the provisions of the sinking fund and having every installment paid on the dot. Senator COUZENS. What procedure was taken to retire those bonds from the top? Mr. L A M O N T . Just the operation of the sinking fund. Senator Couzens. Senator COUZENS. H O W did you accumulate the bonds that you paid out of the sinking fund ? Mr. L A M O N T . I can not answer that offhand, but I can furnish you full information. Senator COUZENS. That is important, because I would like to know whether these bonds are still in the hands of the public. Mr. L A M O N T . N O : thej* are not. Senator COUZENS. H O W did you proceed to pay up certain of them and leave certain others in the'hands of the public? Mr, L A M O N T . Either by calling, by number, you see Senators COUZENS. You do not not know for sure ? Mr. L A M O N T (continuing). Or by retiring, by private purchase in the market. Senator COUZENS. Y O U do not know ? Mr. L A M O N T . No. In the hands of the American public, out of the 8208,000,000 issued by the German Government, there remains a total now of only $170,000,000 odd. Senator B A R K U S Y . In addition to these two loans to the German Government, has your house handled any loans to municipalities? Mr. L A M O N T . N O ; none at all. Senator B A R K L E Y . Or any private industrial bonds? Mr. L A M O N T . German, you mean? Senator B A R K L E Y . Yes. Mr. L A M O N T . None. Senator B A R K L E Y , So that, so far as your house is concerned, these two loans cover the entire activity of your house with the German people, either through the Government or otherwise? Mr. L A M O N T , These two loans constitute the entire activity. Senator BARKLEY* Public or private? 28 SALE o f f o r e i g n b o n d s o r securities Mr. LASIONT. Yes. It just so happens that we have not had banking relations in Germany. They turned to us to have these two loans issued, because they were in connection with large financial settlements under the two reparations plans, the importance of which was obvious to the whole world. It was a question, in 1924, of attempting to put Germany back upon her feet so that she could continue tofinanceher imports from every part of the world, including America; and the loan under the Young plan in 1930 was also of great importance, only secondary to the first loan. Senator BARKLEY. Do you know through what houses these municipal bonds you hear so much about in Germany have been issued in this country ? Mr. LAMONT. It is easy enough to compile a list. As a matter of fact, I think the Department of Commerce keeps tab on those. Senator BINGHAM. Mr. Lamont, I have often heard people express wonder as to why American bankers were willing to loan Germany money at such low rates, just after Germany had wiped out all internarindebtedness by allowing the mark to become worthless, and thereby shown that they had no practice, or that they did not follow the ordinary practice of trying to get their obligations somewhere within reason by meeting them somehow. It seems to many people almost incredible that when they wiped out their entire internal debt by inflation, that American bankers should have been willing to loan them hundreds of millions of dollars within a very few years afterwards. What is the answer? Mr. LAMONT. I think the answer to that is this—and I will address myself, if I may, to the two. issues of bonds which our house vrps primarily responsible for. Those bonds constitute the unconditional obligation of the German Government, payable .in American gold dollars of the present degree of weight andfinenesswithout any " ifs " or " ands " or questions whatsoever, with particular revenues allocated to the service of those bonds. Germany had been put back by the operation of the Dawes plan and by this international loan issue upon a gold-standard basis and there was no possible reason, I think, on the part of American bankers, as there is none to-day, to question the good faith or the ability of the German Government and the German people to meet their external obligations to that extent. Senator BARKLEY. A S a matter of fact, did not the fact that Germany paid all her internal debts by a so-called procesjs of repudiation rather encourage the bankers to believe that they would be more prompt in paying new loans that might befloatedm this country ? Mr. LAMONT. That might be one way of putting it, but one has to draw a very sharp distinction, Senator, between the external obligations of any government, payable in the currencies on the markets where those obligations are issued, and their own internal obligations. On their internal obligations they have a right, as the American Government has a right, to tax the people in one form or another until the issue is out of existence, almost. It can be-taxed out of existence. They haverio*such right in tlie case of any of these foreign obligations, because the contract provides not only that they are payable in American gold dollars but they are payable without any deduction for taxes so far as the issuing country is-concerned. Senator LAFOLLETTE. What WEREF the special revenues that were set aside for these bonds, if you have the record? 29 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. L A M O N T . Senator Couzens mentioned that-to me a moment ago. I have it right here. So far as the inflation is concerned—domestic inflation, of course—we have all been guilty of that at times. During the time of our own inflation period, from the time of the Civil War until 1878 or 1879, whenever it was, nobody would have questioned the soundness of any issue of bonds that the American Government might make if it promised to pay it in sterling, we will say, of the legal weight of gold. Senator B I N G H A M . Mr. Lamont, I was not questioning the issue of these bonds in connection with the Dawes pan or the Young Elan, but I wondered whether the remarks you made, which Senator rore brought out you made in 1927, cautioning the public and the bankers against going on a campaign of seeking bonds across the seas, had any reference to the elForts of certain American bankers and investment houses in pushing loans into Germany at a rate which has been shown not to be justified. Mr. L A M O N T . Of course, every loan stands on its own basis. You might take a loan to the city of Bremen, or the port of Bremen, whereby it was shown that certain port duties were allocated to the service of the loan, and it could be shown that that loan, under all normal conditions in Germany, would be perfectly safe; and I assume that no loan has been made by any banker in the United States without taking precautions on that point. I do not think that the American banking community generally contemplates any ultimate repudiation of any of those German municipal or provincial obligations—none whatsoeverSenator GORE. They amount to about $ 7 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , I understand. Mr. L A M O N T . I do not know. We do not happen to have had any of them, but I do not think that in the long run the German people are going to repudiate those. In fact, there is not a single instance up to date where the service on those loans has been in default. Senator L A FOLLFITE. Would you mind answering the question as to what specific or special revenues were to be used for service on the Dawes and the Young plan loans? Mr. L A M O N T . I have it right here, Senator La Follette, and will be very glad to give it to you. 1. In the external loan of 1924, all service of interest and amortization constitutes a direct and unconditional obligation on the German Government, chargeable on all the assets and revenues of that government. 2. A specific first charge on all payments provided for under the Dawes plan, to or for the account of the agent general for reparations payments, such charge being prior to reparations and other treaty payments, which, in turn, have a specific precedence over the existing German debt. 3. A first charge, by way of collateral security on the controlled revenues, that is, the gross revenues of the German Government derived from the customs and from the tax on tobacco, beer, and sugar* The net revenue of the German Government from the spirits monopoly, and such tax, if any, as may be similarly assigned to the German Government in accordance with the terms of the final 92928—31—PT 1 3 30 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES protocol of the London1 conference. The German Government may not create any further charge upon the controled revenues ranking prior to or equally with the charge created in favor of the bonds of this loan. Then, at the London Conference, the governments entered into a protocol whereby they specifically approved such allocation, and waived their own rights to reparations subordinate to that. Senator GORE. You have not been taking any of this beer money? Mr. LAMONT. We have been very careful, of course, to see that no revenue came from that. [Laughter.] Senator GORE. I want to ask one question, Mr. Chairman. Mr. LAMONT. Excuse me a minute, Senator. Senator La Follette asked me tofinishon this. Senator GORE. Pardon me. Mr. LAMONT. We come to the second loan of 1930, but I will repeat myself somewhat and cover both loans: As to security respecting German external loan 1924 (Dawes loan), and German Government international 5y2 per cent loan, 1930 (Young loan): The service of interest and amortization of the Dawes loan is: (1) A direct and unconditional obligation of the German Government chargeable on all the assets and revenues of that Government. (2) A specificfirstcharge on all payments provided for under the Dawes plan to or for the account of the agent general for reparation payments, such charge being prior to reparation and: other treaty payments, which in turn have a specific precedence over the existing German debt, (3) Afirstcharge by way of collateral security on the " controlled revenues," i. e., the gross revenues of the German Government derived from the customs and from the taxes on tobacco, beer, and sugar; the net revenue of the German Government from the spirits monopoly and such tax (if any), as may be similarly assigned by the German Government in accordance with the terms of the final protocol of the London conference. The German Government may not create any further charge upon the controlled revenues ranking prior to or equally with the charge created in favor of the bonds of the loan. The London protocol declared that "the signatory governments further declare that they consider the service of the loan as entitled to absolute priority as regards any resources of Germany, so far as such resources may have been subjected to a general charge* in favor of the said loan; and also as regards any ^resources that may arise as a result of the imposition of sanctions.*' The payment of thfj principal, interest, and sinking fund of the loan is the direct and unconditional obligation of the German Government to the bondholder, for which the full faith and credit of the German Government are pledged;' By way of jguaranty for1 the service of the annuities, the German Government has, in accordance with the new plan, created a fixed annual direct tax of 660,000.000: reichsmarks ($157,212,000) on the German Railway Co. for 37 years, such tax enjoying priority over any tax now W hereafter to be levied on the railway company. 31 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Under the new plan the German Government has further undertaken, without prejudice to the securities for the German external loan? 1924, to reserve free from any charge for any other loan or credit the proceeds of the customs, tobacco, beer, and alcohol (monopoly administration) duties save with the consent of the Bank for International Settlements, and then only subject to the priority in. favor of the annuities as provided for in the new plan. Those provisions, in general, Senator La Follette, constitute the security. Senator GEORGE. Mr. Lamont, are any of these German bonds now held by your house, or the distributing agencies or syndicates, as you call them, or any member of the distributing agencies? Mr. L A M O N T . On the latter point, Senator, we have no idea whether they are held or not. I mean to say, we do not know what the private holdings, if any, maybe of any of these houses. So far as we are concerned, we hold a few. I do not know how many, but it is easy enough to look up. Senator GEORGE. Would you mind putting that in the record t Mr. L A M O N T . Any amount of these two issues of bonds ? Senator GEORGE. Yes. Mr. L A M O N T . Of course, that is a matter of our private affairs, but I do not believe there is any objection to it. Senator GEORGE. I asked you if you would mind putting it in the record. Mr. L A M O N T . I will say, informally Senator BEED. Would it not be better, Mr. Chairman, to have the witness and all other witnesses furnish a statement directly to the committee, and then we can decide whether we want to put it into the record or not! We can then decide whether or not we want to put private affairs into the record. Senator COUZENS. Mr. Chairman Mr. LAMOMT. So far as I am concerned, I do not think we have the slightest objection. The C H A I R M A N . Then, send that information to the chairman of the committee and we will take it up with the full committee, as to whether it should be published or not. Senator COUZENS. Mr- Lainontrthe amounts you have just referred to were the amounts that were floated in this country I Mr. L A M O N T . Yes* Senator COUZENS. What was the aggregate floated in all the countries? Or do you know? Mr. L A M O N T . I ought to know, and I think I can tell you, Senator Couzens. In the matter of the first loan, the total amount of the Joan was approximately $200,000,000. Senator COUZENS. Of which you took Mr. L A M O N T . Of which a little over half was done in this country. Senator COUZENS. Now, the second? Mr. L A M O N T . The second one was, as I recall it, $ 3 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , of which about a third was done in this country. That is subject te correction. Do you recall, Mr. Mitchell? Mr. MITCHELL, I beg your pardon. Senator REED. D O you know the exact'amount? Mr. M I T C H E L L . That is about right 32 SALE OF FOREIGN 'BONDS OR SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT. That is about right. think we took about a third of them in this country. That, of course, is a matter of public record; Senator COUZENS. In retiring these bonds through the sinking fund, do you know whether all the countries had the same procedure iriTetiring these bonds put of the sinking fund? Mr. LAMONT. The customs and the practices as to sinking funds, Senator Couzens, differ in almost all countries.' The British practice in sinking funds is quite different from the customary American practice. The French practice, I think, is different in another way. I can npt detail the different variations, but each one, of course, has been built up by tradition, based upon what was best applicable to { its own market. - r ^ , Senator COUZENS.-So far as* the retirement in this country are concerned, they would all have to go through your house; is that correct? Mr. LAMONT. They would all have to go through the sinking fund, if that happened to be handled at our house. Senator COUZENS. In this case where is the sinking fund in this country—in your house? Mr. LAMONT. I think so. Senator COUZENS. You do not know whether the German sinking fund is in your house or not ? Mr. LAMONT. I am almost sure it is, but I would want to check up on that. We might have invoked the services of a trust company, but I think it is with us. / Senator COUZENS. I think it is important to know how the sinking fund is applied in the retirement of the outstanding securities. Mr. LAMONT. That is very readily ascertainable. Before I take up the next item, you were asking me, Senator, whether the dealings of J. P. Morgan & Co. with Germany have been confined to these two issues of bonds, and I replied that they had. In that connection it may be appropriate at this time to say that, so far as the short-term credits are concerned—short-term credits of the German banks—we do not happen to have a dollar of those, because we did not have dealings with the German banks. In that connection, there has been a great deal of misunderstanding and exaggeration in the public mind as to the extent of the holdings of American banks in short-term German bank credits.. It is a very unfortunate misunderstanding. It is a very unfortunate exaggeration, because an entirely wrong impression, in our judgment, has been created. What has happened, as all you gentlemen know, has been simply this, that American banks, and the big banks generally over the country, from the Atlantic to the Pacific, have had German banking correspondents for years, probably for generations, and they have been in the habit of granting commercial, and sometimes other sorts of credits, to these German banks for thefinancingof the exports of American cotton, copper, and all sorts of things. That has been the practice that has gone on, and I am told that there are 90 of these American banks that have been! engaged in this perfectly legitimate, proper banking process, very necessary to the whole export trade of our country, so far as Germany is concerned. And yet the public inind has been apparently almost inflamed with the idea of large figures. I have heard statements made that certain New York banks. 33 SALE OF FOREIGN 'BONDS OR SECURITIES for instance, were loaded up with these short-term German credits to the extent, in any individual case, of two or three hundred million dollars. Of course that is perfectly fantastic. I have not looked at the portfolios of the banks m New York, but I happen to know that the largest amount of credit outstanding in any bank is $70,000,000 or thereabouts, and it would be in the case of a bank whose other capital resources were so large that it was not a matter of danger, or even of comment. Senator GORE. D O they not have security anyway, Mr. Lamont? Mr. L A M O N T . Yes; they presumably have security. These bills are of two orders, chiefly, presumably, for commercial transactions— what they call commercial bills, drawings by the German banks against their American correspondents in Chicago, Boston, New York, or wherever it may be, concerning the financing of shipments. Senator GORE. The banks have not assumed any particular risk in connection with short-term credits, have they? Mr. L A M O N T . It is obvious that the total of the short-term credits extended to German banks by the aggregate of banks in America, Great Britain, France, Switzerland, and Holland, we will say, has been a cumbersome amount. I will put it that way. That is obvious, because when things came to a crisis in Germany last summer you will recall that a temporary arrangement was entered into in which these banking credits woulcl be extended automatically for a period of six months, until investigation: could be made and an orderly process restored. Mr. Wiggin and other bankers from other countries are now in Berlin, as you know, for the purpose of arranging a schedule of gradual liquidation of these. Senator GORE. The morning paper says credit has been extended for a year. Mr. L A M O N T . That may be true, but I think it is important for this committee to know—as it would ordinarily know anyway—that these short-term German credits do not constitute, in their volume, a danger to the American banking situation to-day. Senator COUZENS. Mr. Lamont, with reference to those bills, were they not self-maturing? Mr. L A M O N T . I have no doubt that a large part were self-maturing. Some were not self-maturing. They were what might be called finance bills; but I assume that there was a general understanding between the German bank—it might be the Deutsche Bank, or whatever it might be—and its American correspondent, that as one particular bill fell due it could be replaced with an equivalent amount from another good bill. Senator COUZENS. May I ask what effect it would have had upon those short-term credits if Germany had gone off the gold standard, say, last May, or April, or June? Mr. L A M O N T . I cfo not know what public effect would have been had, but so far as the ultimate effect is concerned, I would not look to see any, because those are dollar credits, you understand. Senator COUZENS. But they are not the same dollar credits as are referred to in the bonds, where thefinenessand weight are considered. Mr. L A M O N T . The same document is not invoked. It is not such a formal document, but they are just as much payable in American dollars, finally, as any bond is. 34 SALE OF FOREIGN" B O N D S O R SECURITIES Senator COUZENS. SO that, in effect, if Germany had gone off the gold standard last April, for example, these short-term loans would not have been affected in value, except psychologically? Mr. LAMONT. That is all. And if she should go off the gold standard to-day, by any chance, they would not be so affected. Senator SEED. It would merely take more marksto raise that many dollars. Mr. LAMONT. T O raise the same amount in dollars. Senator SHORTRIDGE. The obligation is to pay in American gold dollars. Mr. LAMONT. That is it. Senator BARKUBY. That applies, of course, only to $ 2 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 of this $ 5 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 German issue that you mentioned a while ago. Mr. LAMONT. I beg your pardon? Senator BARKUBY. That situation applies only to $ 2 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 of the $ 5 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 you spoke of a while ago. The total of the two issues of your houseMr. LAMONT. Let me make the discrimination there. The two issues I spoke of, Senator, were two long term bond issues of the German Government. Senator BARKLEY. Yes. , Mr. LAMONT. These short-term credits are not to the German Government at all, and the German Government has no immediate concern. They are to German banks. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Do our banks carry short-term credits from other countries? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, certainly—France, Italy, and all over the world. The CHAIRMAN. It seems unlikely that we shall be able to get through with the witness at this morning's session. Senator JOHNSON. Before you adjourn, Mr. Chairman, there are two questions, merely for additional clarity. About what would you say, Mr. Lamont, was the amount of the short-term credits—the average amount? Mr. LAMONT. What do you mean by "the average amount"? Senator JOHNSON. What would be, generally speaking, the shortterm credits that are outstanding? The CHAIRMAN. In the United States. Mr. LAMONT. YOU mean of German banks? Senator JOHNSON. Yes. Mr. LAMONT. I could not answer that, Senator Johnson, because we have not been in close touch with that situation, but I think Mr. Mitchell, when he comes on the stand, will probably be able to give you an approximate reply. Senator JOHNSON. I have seen it stated in the press—and I do not, of course, vouch for the accuracy of it because of that fact—1 that they aggregate something between $ 7 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 and $ 8 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 . Would that be substantially correct, in your opinion? Mr. LAMONT. That I honestly do not know. Senator JOHNSON. Of these short-term credits, you have said that one bank has $ 7 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 at the present time. Mr. LAMONT. That is the largest holding, I understand^ of any one institution. ! Senator JOHNSON. That is, one single institution in this country has $ 7 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 . That is all, sir. 35 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator B A R K L E I \ Just one question in connection with these German loans. These two loans, in which you participated to the extent of about $200,000,000, aggregate $500,000,000. Three hundred million dollars were floated in other countries; is that correct? M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator B A R K L E Y . The Dawes and the Young loans? M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator B A R K L E Y . D O you know whether the German government has floated additional loans in other countries? Mr. L A M O N T . N O ; she has not. Not so far as I am aware; I will put it that way. Senator B A R K L E Y . Up to this time there has been no default of any sort in keeping the bond of these loans? M r . LAMONT. NO. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Mr. Chairman, I move that we recess. Mr. L A M O N T . Mr. Chairman, may I make one observation just before we adjourn, brought about by Senator Johnson's emphasis on this sum of $70,000,000? I quoted deliberately that amount of $70,000,000 to show how exaggerated the statements were as to very much larger amounts in individual institutions, and I added the fact that in the case of this particular institution, whatever it was, its capital resources were so great as to make this amount constitute nothing in the way of a menace or danger of any kind. The reason that 111 are perhaps gone out of my way before this committee to emphasize these points about these credits was that there is a good deal of unwarranted and undue tremor in the public mind about the soundness of certain large financial institutions, and I think that every opportunity shouldoe taken to reassure the public mind on the points winch are weighing upon it now. I make that statement by way of explanation. 'f'he C H A I R M A N . If there are no further questions at this time Senator T H O M A S of Idaho. Mr. Lamont, do you feel, then, that the investing public is unduly exercised about the German bonds? Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Securities, you mean. Senator T H O M A S of Idaho. The German bonds that they hold. Mr. L A M O N T . I would say from my observation that they are unduly exercised. Senator GORE. I would like to ask one question in connection with Germany, Mr. Chairman. We hear it repeatedly stated, Mr. Lamont, in the magazines that Germany has been making reparations payments, either directly or indirectly, out of borrowings and not out of revenues; that she has been paying her old debts by creating new debts. I know of no truth to that effect. Are you in a position to say whether that is true or not? Mr. L A M O N T . Senator Gore, in answering that you would have to point out this: You can not divide the revenues of any government into various pockets in the way of receipts and then divide it into other pockets in the way of outgo. The thing all comes in and it all goes out* Undoubtedly the loans which countries foreign to Germany have made to the German Government, to German municipalities, and to German industries—if in any case—and to German banks have helped to put the German people in a position so that they could better pay reparations. These loans have undoubtedly helped to 36 SALE OF FOREIGN 'BONDS OR SECURITIES reestablish the German economy, to get their industry going, and, in so far as that has been accomplished, and in so far as they have been users of American products, those loans have been very constructive for America. Senator GORE. The point is that she was not getting out of debt and was not paying debts with revenues, but with money borrowed. Mr. LAMONT. That is perfectly true. Also, as these revenues have flowed through other governments to the United States, they have so far helped to pay intergovernmental debts to the United States Government. The CHAIRMAN. If there are no further questions to be asked at this time, the committee will stand adjourned until 1.30 this afternoon. Mr. Lamont, we would like you to continue at that time. (Whereupon, at 12 o'clock noon, the committee recessed to meet at 1.30 o'clock p. m.) AFTER RECESS The committee resumed at 1.30 p. m., at the expiration of the recess. The CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order. Mr. LamontJ you may proceed; TESTIMONY OF THOMAS W. LAMONT, OS J. P. MORGAN & CO., NEW YORK CITY—Resumed Senator JOHNSON.' Mr. Chairman, before the witness proceeds with his statement ma^ I ask him if it is within his knowledge and he can do so, if he will answer this question : Can you take a loan like the first one that was mentioned, the Argentine loan of $159,800,000, and follow it through so we may know exactly the procedure in relation to the various loans that have been made? The CHAIRMAN. Senator Johnson, did you mean to follow it through up to date, so that the committee may know what is its status now? Senator JOHNSON. I want Mr. Lamont to follow it through the various steps taken by his house, in order that we may understand exactly the mode of procedure in the matter of these various loans. Thus far he has stated, and very frankly, but in general terms concerning them. I thought if he would take one loan, like the Argentine loan, and that was the first one he spoke of, and would just describe it from beginning until it was disposed of in this country, it would give us a picture of the entire situation which otherwise we would not have. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Lamont, have you that information? Mr. LAMONT. I think so. But I am not sure that I can satisfy Senator Johnson. Yet I think, with the information I have at hand, I should be able to do so. At least I can go ahead, and then by inquiry Senator Johnson can develop any points that I do not fully cover. Senator JOHNSON; I will thank you to do so. Mr. LAMONT. That first loan to the Argentine was back June 2, 1925; and I assume that prior to the date of that issue the representatives of the Argentine Government stated to us they desired to secure a certain loan in an external market, like the American 37 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES market, and that they described the purposes for which the Government legitimately required such a loan. I assume that this purpose appealed to us as sound and constructive and that we undertook to canvass the situation and ascertain whether we could issue such a loan upon the American market, subject to a check up with Washington to find if there were any political auestions involved. Whereupon I assumed that some time prior to tne date of issue Senator JOHNSON (interposing). Will you pardon me for a moment? Mr. L A M O N T . Certainly, Senator Johnson. Senator JOHNSON. Y O U say you " assume." May we take that as a colloquialism for stating the fact? Mr. L A M O N T . That is my way of stating that that was the invariable practice, Senator Johnson. Senator JOHNSON. Yes, sir. Mr. L A M O N T . I can not recall the circumstances relating to this particular issue, of course, but that is undoubtedly what took place. Senator JOHNSON- All right. Mr. L A M O N T . Then, in due course and prior to the issue, we undoubtedly executed a contract with the Argentine Government, and I assume that the Argentine Government's signature was given through the Argentine ambassador at Washington, or something like that, and we formed our syndicate group, in that instance consisting of 782 participants; and in due course on the date mentioned, June 2,1925, we proffered those bonds to the Dtiblic. Senator JOHNSON. D O you know at what price they were proffered to the public? Mr. L A M O N T . Certainly. Senator JOHNSON. Will you please tell us? Mr. L A M O N T . At the issue price of 9 6 . There was the same spread as described this morning, when I spoke of that and the other issues. At the same time that we offered them to the public the members of the syndicate, consisting of banks, banking houses, bond houses, and so forth, undoubtedly offered those bonds to their own clients throughout the country. They had their salesmen, I assume, to offer them, and finally in due course the issue was completed. Now, I assume that in the case of this issue, as in the case of the great bulk of the issues of bonds, they .were placed with investors and that, after continuing the syndicate for a certain number of days to be assured that the market was sound and required no support on the part of the syndicate, we dissolved the syndicate, and then that operation would have been completed. Senator JOHNSON. Was there more than one syndicate there? Mr. LAMONT* No; in that instance only one. Senator JOHNSON. In the first instance were the dealings undertaken entirely by your house? Mr. L A M O N T . N O : they were undertaken by our house and one other. Senator JOHNSON. And what was that other house, if you please? Mr. L A M O N T . It is not recorded here, but I assume it was the National City Bank or the National City Co. Senator REED. N O W . if I may interrupt you, Senator Johnson. Senator JOHNSON. All right 38 SALE OF1 FOREIGN BONDS' Oil SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT. That will all appear in the record that I will furnish—I will add for your benefit, Senator Johnson. Senator JOHNSON. I thank you. Senator REED. Was the purchase price that you and your one associate in this case paid to the Argentine Government made known to the seven hundred and odd members of the syndicate who took the bonds over from you? Mr. LAMONT. Approximately, oh, yes; in every case. Senator REED. YOU have not concealed from them the fact that the purchasing group was making a small profit before selling to the syndicate, hav^ you? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, no. On the contrary, in the syndicate letter we say that the bonds will be syndicated at such and such a price, that price " representing a profit to the original group." Senator JOHNSON. In the first instance what was the purchase price, if you please? Mr. LAMONT. The bonds were originally purchased at 92. Senator JOHNSON. That is by you and tlie National City Co. Mr. LAMONT. That is it. Senator JOHNSON. NOW, the svndicate was immediately formed after the purchase of the bpndsf Mri LAMONT. I do not know how soon after the purchase, but it was formed subsequent to the purchase. Senator JOHNSON. At what price were the bonds handed to the syndicate? Mr. LAMONT. They were handed to the syndicate at 93%. Senator JOHNSON. At 93y2 did you say? M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator JOHNSON. And then" the syndicate sold them at what price? If you have stated it, I did not get it, and I wish you would repeat it for my benefit. M r . LAMONT^ A t 9 6 . ^ Senator JOHNSON. They('were sold at 96 by the syndicate; M; Mr. LAMONT; That is right. Senator; JOHNSON. I thank ybu. Mr. LAMONT. D6es that complete your inquiry. Senator Johnson? Senator JOHNSON. It does for this particular instanceMr. LAMBERT. Good: Now; I will s a y — ' Senator REED (interposing). Mr. Lamont, -will you start at that point in your table at which .you were last interrupted and complete the list Of foreign loans? Mr. LAMONT. I can do that I think without much delay. To Italy there were two loans. This record, which I will file with the committee in a day or two, will show one was in 1925 and the other in 1927, one of them direct to the Italian Government of $100,0002000, and the other to what was known as the Italian Credit Consortium, being a corporation owned by the Italian Government, as I recall it, but the exact relationship does not appear here, for a total of $12,000,000; < The original issue of $100,000,000 has been reduced by the operation of the sinking fund to about $89,000,000, and the other to about $91)00,000 from the original amount of $12,000,000. Senator SHORTRIDGE. As to all of the; Government bonds issued concerning which you have testified, they^ere severally payable in gold, were they not? 39 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. L A M O N T . They were severally payable in gold dollars. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Of a certain weight and fineness. Mr. L A M O N T . Yes. In no instance have we issued any other character of bonds. Now, to go ahead with the Italian bonds: One issued for the city of Rome in 1827 for a total of $30,000,000, which has been reduced by the sinking fund to $27,500,000, in round numbers. Then, in February, one to Japan, and that was what was known . as the large reconstruction earthquake and fire loan Senator JOHNSON (interposing). You have passed away from Italy now. M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator JOHNSON. Will you please state what, if any, compensation or remuneration was received by you in the case of the Italian loans? Mr. L A M O N T . In the case of the first Italian loan the gross spread was iy 2 per cent, and our managing commission was two hundred and twenty-five one thousandths of 1 per cent. In the case of the second loan the gross spread was 4 per cent and our managing commission was one-fifth of 1 per cent. In the case of the Rome loan the spread was 4 per cent ana our managing commission was one-fifth of 1 per cent. Now, if you are ready, we will come to the Japanese bonds. Senator JOHNSON. Just pardon me for a question before you leave the Italian bonds, Mr. L A M O N T . Certainly* Senator JOHNSON. Were the Italian bonds taken alone by the house of Morgan? Mr. L A M O N T . Oh, no. In the original purchase group in each instance there were three participants. Senator JOHNSON. I beg pardon, but I did not hear your answer. Mr. L A M O N T . I say, there were three participants in the original purchase group. Senator JOHNSON. Will you state what three tliey were? Mr. L A M O N T . I do not remember^ but we will certainly furnish that information to }*ou. Senator JOHNSON. All right. Senator HARRISON. What was the date of the last Italian issue I Mr. L A M O N T . The last Italian Government issue was . a 7 per cent bond issued at 96^. Senator HARRISON. And that was after we had funded the debt with Italy at 23 cents on the dollar, wasn't it? Mr. L A M O N T . Yes; that is right. Senator J O H N S O N . And the other one was taken at what price, please? Mr. L A M O N T . That was the last one. The other one was at !)4y2r being a 7 per cent issue. Senator JOHNSON. S O that we have one before and one after the funding of the Italian debt? Mr. L A M O N T . No; not one before the funding of the Italian debt. Senator JOHNSON. Both afterwards? Mr. L A M O N T . Yes; both subsequent to that time. Senator REED. And both of them had to carry 7 per cent on the face value. SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES 40 M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator HARRISON, Wasn't that issue being negotiated about the time we were negotiating the funding of the Italian debt? Mr. LAMONT. I can answer that question very specifically because I happened to conduct the negotiations. So I will say that there was not even one word or hint or suggestion of a loan from us until they had signed up here in Washington. If I understand the nature of your'inquiry I think it well to make a comparison between the rates of the Government settlement and the rates of this. Of course, these bonds that were issued to the public have got to be priced^ in accordance with market conditions prevailing at the time, and that is the,sole guiding feature. If French bonds are selling on a 7 per cent basis you could not hope to offer Italian bonds on better tliart a 7 per cent basis, and perhaps not quite so good. That is the sole consideration in the pricing of these issues. What is the value of money being invested in the general market based upon bonds of a similar order of credit? Senator JOHNSON. Don't you think you could put that in another way. That that represents the capacity to pay of the debtor, too? Mr. LAMONT. I would think so. Senator REED. Those two Italian issues were offered for the Italian Government in order for it to raise new money? M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator REED. And the Italian Government quite naturally had to pay the market price to get that new money? Mr. LAMONT. That is it. Senator REED. But the refunding of the American Government's claim against the Italian Government was not an attempt to bring in new money, but an attempt to salvage money already owed, a salvaging operation for an existing debt which was made in the stress of war time ? Mr. LAMONT. That is correct. Senator HARRISON. You advised your correspondents, however, that these Italian issues were good and sound, a safe investment? Mr. LAMONT. Why, Senator Harrison, we never issue a bond unless we believe it to be good. Senator K I N G . Let me ask right there: Were those bonds purchased? M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator K I N G . SO that you practically underwrote them? Mr. LAMONT. Yes ; all of them were purchased. On the point that Senator Reed makes let me say: I recall at the time that it was Count Volpi, Italian Finance Minister, who said to us when he opened up the question of a loan that he had entered into certain commitments with the United States Government which he was obliged to fulfill in due course, and that it was absolutely necessary in Ms scheme of things to arrange for the stabilization of the Italian currency at the earliest possible moment* and that in order to do that effectively he must seek some foreign credit. Senator JOHNSON; Can you state approximately how long after the funding of the debt with the United States Government those loans were made? 41 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT. A S I rccall it, the Italian settlement was made some time in the autumn of 1925, and after it was signed up, and very soon thereafter, Count Volpi came to New York. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. That rate of 7 per cent was considerably higher, at the time those bonds were issued, than the rates current upon municipal, State, and industrial bonds of this country, w^as it not? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, certainly. Senator WALHII of Massachusetts. So that there was somewhat of an inducement on the part of bankers in this country to invest abroad because at a larger rate of interest. Mr. LAMONT. Well, of course, the rate of interest is always gaged by the credit of the obligor. You are quite right about that. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. It is also a benefit to the purchaser of the bonds to get the high rate of interest? Mr. LAMONT. Certainly, as high a rate as he can get consistent with safety. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Mr. Lamont, from time to time as you are proceeding you speak of retiring certain bonds by and through the sinking fund. Mr. LAMONT. Yes* Senator SHORTRIDGE. Would you have the goodness to make that clear? There are those who do not quite understand that process. What I want developed is, in order tliat all may understand what is meant by the retirement or payment of outstanding bonds, the application of funds in the sinking fund. Mr. LAMONT. All right. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Will you have the goodness to explain that? Mr. LAMONT. Certainly. That is along the same lines that I answered certain questions propounded by Senator Couzens this morning. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Yes. Mr. LAMONT. In the case of these foreign bonds, speaking in general terms, the contract provides that the Government, which is the obligor, shall annually or semiannually meet not only the interest due—that is, the coupons—but shall also remit a certain amount of money to act as a sinking fund for the retirement of the bonds. Sometimes the amount of that sinking fund is so considerable as automatically to retire the entire issue of bonds by maturity. Sometimes it is not as large as that. It depends upon circumstances. Then that sinking fund operates in one, perhaps, of two ways: Sometimes it is, such as the British , practice, for the sinking fund simply to take bonds by lot or bv drawing into the fund and pay a certain price for them, and the bonds, so far as any reissue is concerned, are not kept alive, but the sinking fund operates each year to reduce the amount of the bonds outstanding. The other method is by the market operations that Senator Couzens was developing this morning, that is to say, in the case of the Italian bonds the Government might say, " We will place in your hands one, two, or three millions of dollars per annum, wherewith you shall acquire at the market price from time to time such bonds as may be available." Senator SHORTRIDGE. That is< to say, your buv outstanding bonds by the application of the money in: the sinkingfund? 42 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT. That is it exactly. Senator SHORTRIDGE. And you retire the bonds so purchased. Mr. LAMONT. That is it exactly. And as they are retired of course it makes the total of the . bonds diminish, and automatically adds to the safety? of the residue held:by the American investors. Senator REED. This particular Italian issue you are talking about has a definite call price, I think. I think I recall seeing an advertisement calling bonds by lot within the last couple of weeks. Mr. LAMONT. Well, that is very likely, Senator Reed. Senator GORE; In those loans that you managed for Italy, you considered their capacity to pay, you said a moment ago. You took their willingness to pay. for granted^ did you? Mr. LAMONT. Not only their willingness to pay, but their determination to pay; Senator GORE. But in relation to the debts which that government owes to the United Statesj both the capacity to pay and the willingness to pay seem to constitute factors. Senator REED. If I might interrupt I. will say: I think the only cases in which an unwillingness to pay has been shown by a foreign government is the case of Russia. Senator GORE. I do not think so. I think France has shown considerable unwillingness to pay in connection with reparations payments to her. Senator REED: They have not defaulted. Senator GORE. I do not mean to say that they have defaulted, but they have stated and restated, have iterated and reiterated their unwillingness to pay unless they collect reparations. I have read to me newspaper statements to that effect at least, but I do not know whether the newspaper statements to that effect are correct or not. Senator KING. Senator Gore, do I understand you to mean that France, since she has negotiated a settlement with the United States the terms of which it is not necessary to inquire into here, has given out statements, that is, any responsible government in France or any person responsible in France to speak for the government, to the effect that France would not pay the United States as the obligations mature unless reparations were paid to her by Germany? Senator GORE; I could not say that any one officially authorized to represent the French Government has said that, but that statement has been repeatedly published in the newspapers, and Mr. McFadden in the House stated a day or two since that within four or five days there had been received such a communication from France. Now, I do not think we ought to attach too much importance to that, and it was for that reason I introduced a resolution calling for the information, because I think a whispering campaign of that sort is unfortunate, and of course if it is not true the facts ought to be known. But there is no secret that France at least has been represented, whether responsibly or not, as having the fixed purpose not to pay the Government of the United States unless she collects reparations from Germany' and I think that represents her attitude to-day. But, Mr. Chairman, pardon this digression. Mr. LAMONT. Mr, Chairman, shall I now proceed ? The CHAIRMAN: Senator Gore, the time to find that out is when France refuses to pay, and I do not think she is going to do it. 43 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Sir. L A M O N T . We come now to the two direct Japanese Government issues, the first one of February 11, 1924 Senator CORE (interposing). Pardon the interruption. But, Senator King, that was connected with their ratification or approval of the Berenger-Mellon agreement, that her payments depended upon reparations. Mr. L A M O N T . I will continue. The C H A I R M A N . Please do so. Mr. L A M O X T . The first of these Japanese loans, being that of February 11, 1924, and being known in general terms as a loan for reconstruction and rehabilitation of Japan after their terrible earthquake and fire of the previous September; that was in effect an international loan in respect of the fact that there was an offering in the British market coincident with the offering in the American market. The total amount of the issue was $150,000,000 in the American market, bearing per cent interest, and issued at 92y2. There was an outside spread of 5 per cent. The operation of the sinking fund has reduced the outstanding issue from $150,000,000 to $133,000,000. There was a very large public response to that issue, particularly because of the faith in the promise to pay I take it, of the Japanese Government, plus a feeling of great sympathy for the hardships which their people were enduring. The second Japanese Government bond issue was made in May of 1930. It was for $71,000,000 as I have it here, at 90, with a 4 per cent spread. Senator JOHNSON. With how much of a spread ? Mr. L A M O N T . Four per cent. Senator J O H N S O N . I thank you. Mr. L A M O N T . Then coming to the three issues Senator REED (interposing). Those were 5 % , were thev not? Mr. L A M O N T . Yes. Then coming to the three Japanese issues guaranteed by the Imperial Government, one of them was to the city of Yokohama in November, 1926, a 6 per cent bond for approximately but not quite $20,000,000, and which has been reduced by the sinking fun to $18,000,000 plus, issued at 93, with a 4 per cent spread. The next was a loan to the City of Tokyo, guaranteed by the Imperial Government, made in March of 1927, 5y2 per cent bonds, for a little over $20,000,000, and which has been reduced by means of the sinking fund to a little over $19,000,000 now, issued at 89y2, with a 3y2 per cent spread. The third issue, last June, to the Taiwan Electric Power Co., that is, an electric power company operating power in the Island of Formosa, guaranteed by the Imperial Government, of $22,800,000, at 5V& per cent, issued at 93%, with a per cent gross spread* The only other long-term issues that we have had were, two to the Government of Switzerland, one dating back to August i , 1923, a 5 1>er cent loan of $20,000,000. Well, that was really not a long-term oan. It has all been matured and paid off now. Senator K I N O . Was that a loan to the Government of Switzerland or to one of the cantons! Mr. L A M O N T . N O ; that was a loan made.directly to the Government of Switzerland, r », * Senator K I N O . I thank you; 44 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT.1 The next loan was in April of 1924, issued for $30,000,000, at 5% per cent, at 97%, with a 3%-point spread. Senator JOHNSON. Returning to the Japanese loans for just A moment, please: Were they all syndicated? Mr. LAMONT. They were all syndicated. Senator. Senator JOHNSON. And were they all disposed of to the general banks and the general public? Mr. LAMONT. Well, I can not answer that. I have not enough details to show, but I assume that the syndicate was wound up without ha vinjg to take any of the bonds back. But as to that I do not know; It is easy enough, to find out, however. As I have said, in the case of the first issue there was a very strong response on the ground that-—- ' Senator JOHNSON (interposing). That was after their great disaster? Mr. LAMONT. Yes; after the great earthquake. Senator JOHNSON. Were those bonds in thefirstinstance all taken by the house of Morgan ? Mr. LAMONT. The original purchasing group included four, and I happen to remember in that instance that they were J. P. Morgan & Co., Kuhn, Loeb & Co., the National City Bank, and the First National Bank. Now, the Switzerland loans I have already given to you, and that covers our issues since the* war, or since 1920, of long-term indebtedness of foreign governments. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Lamont, will you hand that list to the shorthand reporter for the purpose of our record? Mr. LAMONT. I should like to have this to take back with me to check it over and supplement it with certain information in response to inquiries made here, so as to make it more complete. I got this up very hastily; The CHAIRMAN. That will not take you very long? M r . LAMONT. NO. The CHAIRMAN. Then we will have to hold up our printing until you can get that to us. Mr. LAMONT. But this would be very likely as an annex to the record. Senator WALSH of Massachusetts. I note that you have had only one issue of foreign bonds during the past year. M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator WALSH of Massachusets. And that is a small issue. M r . LAMONT. Y e s . Senator WALSH of Massachusetts. Is that due to conditions in Europe and throughout the world? Mr, LAMONT. That is due to conditions throughout the world. Senator WALSH OF Massachusetts. But I suppose you have had applications? Mr. LAMONT.^ Well, I think the most of the foreign governments have fully realized prevailing conditions and have refrained from making application. The CHAIRMAN. You may proceed. Mr. LAMONT. We also in the course of these years issued certain very short-time securities, and also certain revolving credits to the 45 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES governments, all of which have matured and been paid off, and none of which had to do with the investing public, which I assume this resolution has particularly to do with. Senator K I N G . And I assume some of those were based upon commercial transactions, were they not? Mr. LAMONT. In general, Senator King, they were, I would say, because they were Government transactions, more in connection with Government operations. It might be some temporary credit, for the stabilization of the lira, or something like that, which was matured .and paid off. But that was the general purpose. Senator KEED. Mr. Lamont, has American commerce benefited from these loans in any way? Mr. LAMONT. Why, Senator Reed, I should think that American commerce had in the long run benefited very greatly by these loans. Of course it is quite arguable that in certain instances the matter of foreign loans has been overdone, but to take the situation as a whole we all know that foreign nations in Europe found themselves after the war denuded as to working capital. That applied to the industries; it applied to a very great many different phases of their situations. And those loans liave been designed, as is quite manifest as stated on their face, either for stabilization purposes or to furnish funds that might be used for temporary credit in an attempt to restore the normal course of commerce. We all know that our foreign trade is dependent upon the normality with which those processes can be carried out. And I go so far as to say that not only have they contributed very materially to the maintenance during those years of our foreign trade, but that they have contributed very, very materially to the capacity of the borrowing governments to enable them to discharge their obligations when due, and punctually, to the United States Government. Senator BARKLEY. The press over a period of years or months has constantly stated and reiterated that Germany was paying reparations to the European nations out of money which she borrowed in the United States and that in turn those nations paid to the United States out of their war debt, and that that vicious circle seemed to be perpetual, until this year, when no longer could they borrow money m this country with which to pay reparations, the present condition arose, and that that was largely responsible for the so-called moratorium. To what extent has "Germany paid reparations to other nations in Europe out of money borrowed in the United States? Mr. LAMONT. Well, a somewhat similar question was propounded to me this morning, and I ventured to point out that you could not make an exact coupling between those two forms of operation, be-, cause you can not form a direct connection between a loan, for instance, that some American bank may make to the city of Bremen for harbor improvements and a payment by the German Government of reparations. But in general you can say this without any question, that the loans made to the German economy as a whole, governmental, municipal, industrial, and so forth, and even credits extended to the banks, were designed to improve the conditions toward a restoration of normal conditions in Germany; and to put her people in a way to enable them to pay reparations. So that if you want to 92928—31— 46 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES be very rough and ready about the thing I think you are quite warranted in saying that the loans made to Germany were moneys which will help enable Germany to pay reparations, which restored her so that her economic situation was such as to enable her to pay reparations to other European governments, and the .moneys such governments received in that way added, of course, to their capacity to meet their obligations to the United States Government. Senator BARKLEY. So far as actual loans to the German Government are concerned, only a little more than $200,000,000 having been engaged in this country since 1920, that means that Germany could, not pay all of her reparations from money she has borrowed as a Government. M r . LAMONT. N o . Senator BARKLEY. Whatever indirect effect all the loans might have in the way of assisting the German Government in its ability to pay reparations, it is decidedly untrue to state tliat the Government of Germany as such, out of the money borrowed from this country, had paid reparations during a period of years. Mr. LAMONT. Such statement is entirely inaccurate. Senator KING. None of the loans were earmarked so as to know that they were money for reparations to pay other countries, I take it? M r . LAMONT. N o . Senator REED. It is also true that the German Government has borrowed more money from-other European countries, including Great Britain, than it has borrowed from us, is it not? Mr. LAMONT. I have no record of that, Senator Reed, but that would be my guess, because the German Government or people in one way or another have borrowed, I think, a good deal of money in Switzerland and in Holland and in Sweden, and so forth. Senator REED. We know that more than half of the Dawes and Young loans werefloatedabroad. Mr. LAMONT. More than half of the Young loan was, but about half of the Dawes loan. Senator REED. That is the only long-term borrowing that the German Government, properly speaking, has done, is it not? Mr. LAMONT. In this country, yes, and otherwise too so far as I am aware. Senator WALSH of Massachusetts. Can you state the total extent of the value of foreign bonds your company has handled in this period? Mr. LAMONT. I can tell you the total value, Senator Walsh, at the time of the issue, and the total remaining outstanding. Senator WALSH. I should like to haye that for the record. Mr. LAMONT. The principal amount of the bonds offered by us, long-term bonds I mean, and let me put that in, in the period referred to, namely, since 1920, has been $1,807,578,000'. Out of that amount there has been retired by the operation of sinking funds arid otherwise the sum of $438,280,100, leaving outstanding as of December 15, this month, $1^369^297,900. Senator WALSH of Massachusetts. I thank you. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Mr. Lamont, what factors do you take into account in making arrangements before you undertake to underwrite 47 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES or float one of these loans ? I am not now speaking of any particular loan, but your general practice. Mr. LAMONT. The factors that we take into consideration of course are, first, the standing of the government itself which proposes to become the obligor; the factor as to whether its budget is in balance, or nearly in balance, or is headed closely toward a balanced budget. Manifestly if a government were headed toward getting her budget further out of balance, that would be an adverse factor and a very strong deterrent. The next question would be the purposes for which the proceeds of the issue were to be devoted, whether on the whole those purposes were constructive or otherwise. And that is a point one can not entirely answer always. I mean in the case of a lesser government you can ask specifically: Just what are you going to do with this money? In the case of the French Government or the Government of* Great Britain, latter of which of course does not appear on this list, where the government is above all Question a* to its soundness of method, why, it might devote it to the general purposes of the government. We may happen to know, as in the case of Italy, that it is for the stabilization of the lira, that that was foremost in their mind. Those are the chief factors, plus the state of our own market, which is a very important point. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Do you take into account the ability of the Government to convert their currency into dollars? In other words, do you take foreign exchange from both angles into consideration? Sir. LAMONT. Oh, yes; that is taken into consideration; and we always make certain to our own satisfaction that the service, interest and sinking fund, on any issues we propose to bring out are not so considerable as to be an undue burden upon the exchanges. Senator L A FOLLETTE. D O you take into consideration—for instance, in the case of Germany—a possible conflict between payments on these obligations which you underwrite and obligations which the Government has in the way of war debt or reparations payments? Mr. LAMONT. We think "that might be an academic question, Senator La Follette, but not a practical question. It is not a practical question because, as you bring up the case of Germany and we may look to that particufar instance, we know that the only method by which Germany can be restored to economic health and by which she can pay any obligations she may be undertaking for reparations is to have the normal course of traae and commerce restored in that country. So that while it might be on the face of things a conflict, and you may call it a priority, or whatever it may be} there is no actual question there. Take tlie case of France vis-a-yis Germany : It is realized that unless German commerce is restored, unless she is put in position where her people and corporations can pay taxes to continue government revenues, reparations can not be paid. So that while there has been considerable in the papers of late on this question of priorities, as a matter of actual practice we do not think it is going to amount to a row of pins. Senator L A FOLLETTE. If I understood you correctly a while ago, you stated that J. P. Morgan & Co. have not underwritten any loans which have been floated for industrial corporations in these foreign countries. Mr. LAMONT. Might I ask you to repeat that? 48 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator L A FOLLETTE. I will ask the shorthand reporter to read my question to you. (Thereupon the question was read, as follows:) Senator LA FOLLERM If I understood you correctly awhile ago, you stated that .T. P. Morgan & Co. have not underwritten any loans which have been floated for industrial corporations in these foreign countries.; Mr. LAMONT. We have issued no such loans except in one or two 1 cases that I pointed out in this list; Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts: To Japan, I think it was. Mr. LAMONT. Japan I think was the only one. Senator K I N G . That was in reference to the city of Yokohama. Mr. LAMONT. NO; that was to the electric power company to which I have referred. Senator L A FOLLETTE. In that case do you endeavor to make an analysis of thefinancialcondition of the company, as you would for an issue of domestic bonds ? Mr. LAMONT. In that particular case, yes; we were furnished with very complete information as to the operations of the company, its policy, and all that sort of thing. But, frankly, we relied more in the last analysis upon the guarantee of the Japanese Imperial Government than we did upon the original obligor, although that in itself was deemed to be perfectly sound. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Speaking from your general information, would you say that there is available as complete and accurate an analysis of thefinancialsituation of foreign corporations for which bond issues are floated in this country as you are able to obtain in the case of domestic corporations seeking to float bond issues? Mr. LAMONT. Well, you see, Senator La Follette, I do not believe I can answer that question with authority because Senator L A FOLLETTE (interposing). I was asking for your opinion, and I qualified the question by saying from your general information. Mr. LAMONT. Well, my general experience would lead me to believe that on the whole American banking houses are very careful to secure complete and adequate information in any instance that you might have in mind. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Have the stock exchange listing requirements concerning foreign bonds had any effect upon the character of the issuesfloatedin this country ? Mr. LAMONT. Not that I know of. But I do not believe I quite understand what you mean. Senator L A FOLLETTE. As I understand it, the stock exchange has within the period we have been discussing adopted some requirements concerning the flotation of foreign securities that are to be listed on the New York Stock Exchange. I wondered whether, in your judgment, these requirements have had any influence upon the character of the issues floated. Mr. LAMONT. I can answer that in a general way; no. The requirements of the New York Stock Exchange are designed to the one end of making the technical issue of a bond perfectly safe, in that no counterfeit 6r anything like that can be brought about. And there has to be very great caution exercised, in that respect; with the result that certain Countries now • and then have said* 1 49 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES suppose: Well, it seems to us you are taking undue precaution there. But those are the rules and they are complied with. Senator L A FOLLETTE. There is nothing in those requirements which tend to improve the character of the bonds which are listed? Mr. L A M O N T . Oh, well, in general terms. I would not go so far as to say to improve their character, but to improve the technical safety oi the issue. I will put it that way. Senator L A FOLLETTE. D O you think the policy of the State Department in giving a negative answer concerning the issues of bonds to foreign governments has resulted in improving the character of foreign bonds issued i Mr. L A M O N T . I do not believe I could venture an opinion on that, simply because the practice which I said inhered in our house and in other places, like the National City Bank, and so forth, always to have consulted the authorities over here in Washington, and long before there was any request of that kind made. Senator L A FOLLETTE. What were the factors that resulted in the flotation of such a large volume of foreign loans in this country, in your judgment ; what were the more important factors? Mr. L A M O N T . The important factors, of course, were, as I said a while ago, that many of these foreign governments, or the most of them I would thinlc, had found themselves more or less impoverished because of the ravages of war; that while their people were industrious and hard working they were suffering from the effects of the war and they felt that the ravages could be restored if they could get something like working capital to help restore it. The American investing public and the bankers, on the other hand, looked over there and saw those countries in the last degree ultimately solvent, as we thought and as we believe will prove to be the case. * We saw that they required this situation alleviated, and we further saw that unless we were able to obtain a certain amount of foreign loans for them our own foreign trade would be imperiled. There was American money available at that time, and money wras fairly easy, so those were tlie chief factors. Senator L A FOIXETTE. D O you think the incentive of the commissions to be made through the flotation of these loans had any influence in the large volume that was floated? Mr. L A M O N T . Oh. I think, Senator La Follette, that the matter of the gross or the net profit with respect to any buy-and-sell operation is always important. We are merchants. T*hat is what we are, just like*any merchant in the grain business or the cotton business, or anything else, and the question of a legitimate profit is certainly a consideration. Senator L A FOLLETTE. D O you think that the higher yield of the foreign bonds made them attractive to the American investor? Mr. L A M O N T . I think in many instances that is perfectly true. You take the question propounded by Senator Walsh, and he mentioned something along that line—take the loans to the Government of France in the early part of the decade, and everybody knew in his heart of hearts that the French people, industrious and thrifty as they are, would ultimately be able to pay the very limited amount of foreign obligations which they were negotiating for in dollars, and if the market wTere 7 j>er cent, or even more, it was a very slU; tractive investment. That is, if you had faith in the future of the 50 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES country. And if you did not, it would not be attractive on any basis. Senator L A FOLLETTE. In your judgment, has the volume of these foreign bonds and credits at any time during the period that we have been-discussing, conflicted with or impaired the ability of domestic, and especially small domestic corporations, to secure credit? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, I would answer unquestionably no. Unquestionably no. The interior banks, as you know, have always been, at least during the period of easy money and before we ran into present conditions, ready to grant ample credit. No; I think it would work the other way. I should think the American export trade had been stimulated so .much by foreign loans in general that the domestic situation would have been aided. Senator L A FOLLETTE. I think you may have answered this question before2 but I want to make sure that it is in the record: In your judgment, is there a direct relation between these largeflotationsof foreign securities in this country and the tremendous expansion of the export trade of America during the period preceding the depression? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, yes. While you can not figure out the exact cause and effect in dollars and cents, I have no doubt it had a very strong bearing; otherwise where in the world would our foreign buyers have gotten money with which to buy our cotton, wheat, copper, meats, and all that sort of thing? I don't know where. Senator L A FOLLETTE. In your judgment, did that contribute to the excessive expansion of plant facilities in this country during that period? Mr. LAMONT. I should not think it would be so very much, not a freat deal at least, because what the European countries required uring that decade, especially in the early part of the decade, was not so much manufactured articles as raw materials and commodities such as we were able to furnish in the way of agricultural products, which helped us enormously in that respect. Senator K I N G . But was not our expansion, that is our mechanical expansion, rather during the war, and has there been very much mechanical expansion in our industries since then? Senator L A FOLLETTE. I do'not agree with you. Senator K I N G . I do not state it as a fact, but I was wondering if there had been any very great: industrial expansion in a mechanical way since the war. Senator L A FOLLETTE. There has been tremendous expansion in plant capacity since the war, both due to actual expansion of plant and to the technological improvement of industrial processes. Senator K I N G . I know that there was during the World War and immediately thereafter, but I did not recall that industrial expansion had been very great during the past five or six years. Mr. LAMONT. I think Senator La Follette is right—that there has been considerable expansion of plant capacity in the middle part of this decade. Senator K I N G . Oh, yes; about that, all right. Mr. LAMONT. That was due both to foreign and domestic demand, chiefly domestic, I would say, where tilings, as we all know too well, get to rolling along on a too rapid scale, where people borrow and spend, or borrow and buy, and all that sort of thing. 51 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator GORE. That was the very point I was going to ask you about, this policy on the part of European governments to borrow and buy. That, of course, had to come to an end, unless there was a saving from capital. Mr." LAMONT. When I used the phrase about borrowing and buying I was alluding to the domestic inflation here in the United States, and the expansion of plant facilities, and not to foreign matters. Senator GORE. I think you stated that our foreign trade, our exports, were augmented greatly on account of the borrowings and purchases abroad. Mr. LAMONT. I did say that; but you must bear in mind that this borrowing has not been solely responsible for the volume of our export trade. A great part of it has been due to the savings and thrift of the people over there. You can not find any harder working people, any more saving people, than the French, and, in general terms, I guess than the German and Italian. Senator GOKE. One further point in regard to Germany and the Question of priority: Now, German bonds issued pursuant to the )awes plan were expressly given priority, were they not, over all other German obligations? Mr. LAMONT. That is true. Senator GORE. Is it true also of bonds under the Young plan? Mr. LAMONT. They were given general priority subject to the prior lien of the Dawes bonds. I have read into the record the exact status of the security in the case of both of those issues. Senator GORE. I did not know that, and wanted it in the record. Senator K I N G . The obligations due from foreign governments are approximately $5,000,000,000, due from South American and Central American Governments, roughly speaking, are they not? Mr. LAMONT. My memory does not serve me on that. I should have to refer to some documents of the United States Department of Commerce, which department has made a very careful and complete compilation, but I know it is a very considerable amount. Senator JOHNSON. In 1025 or thereabouts did you arrange for a credit in this country for the Bank of England ? Mr. LAMONT. Willi you state that again ? Senator JOHNSON. Did you arrange for a credit for the Bank of England in 1025 or thereabouts? Mr, LAMONT. NO. We never have had anything to do with the Bank of England credit, Senator Johnson. Great Britain determined in the spring: of 1025, as I recall it, to go back to the gold standard, and the British Government approached us for a 1-year credit. Now, that was the British Government. At the same "time we were informed without knowing any of the details of the matter, that the Bank of England was arranging for a temporary credit through the Federal reserve banks of this country. We arranged ours and they arranged theirs, and as I recall it there were no drawings under our credit, and upon the maturity of the credit it simply matured and really there was no paying to be done, for it was simply a credit. Senator JOHNSON. D O you remember how much they desired at that time? Mr. LAMONT. That they arranged for as a stabilization? Senator JOHNSON. Yes, sir. 52 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT^ I have it here somewhere and will find it. Senator GORE. IT was $ 3 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 that they arranged for, as I understand it. Mr. LAMONT. With us it was a credit to the British Government of $100,000,000. Senator REED. And no part of it did they ever draw. Mr. LAMONT. My recollection is that no part of it was ever drawn upon. Senator JOHNSON. Y O U say that was $ 1 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , arranged by the house of Morgan? Mr. LAMONT. It was $100,000,000 by a group of institutions that associated themselves with us. Senator JOHNSON. And in addition to that, there was a credit by the Federal reserve banks. Mr. LAMONT. There was a credit which the Bank of England arranged for, as we were informed at the time, with the Federal reserve system. Senator JOHNSON. Which was $ 2 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , was it not? Mr. LAMONT. That,is my recollection. Senator JOHNSON. Did you receive any compensation for the credit that was arranged at that time, and that you say was not drawn upon ? Mr. LAMONT. Oh, our group received what you would call a standby commission for promising to let them have the money if they wanted to draw upon it. Senator JOHNSON. Pardon me, but I do not know exactly what you mean by " a stand-by commission." Explain that, please. Mr. LAMONT. Oh, that is a commission for granting the credit. The group that we arranged gave the right to the British Government to call upon us at any time within two years to advance them $200,000,000. Senator JOHNSON. Y O U meant $100,000,000, did you not? Mr. LAMONT. Yes; I meant $ 1 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 . Pardon me. We were paid for that. Senator JOHNSON. And for that grant of a right to draw on you, you were paid? Mr. LAMONT. Yes; certainly. Senator JOHNSON. State the amount, please. Mr. LAMONT. Well, as I have it here it was a total of 1 % per cent per annum. Senator JOHNSON. And how long did that offer last? Mr. LAMONT. T W O years. Senator JOHNSON. S O you charged them 2y 2 per cent then, I take it? Mr. LAMONT. Well, it would amount to exactly what I said. Senator JOHNSON. Y O U said it was 1 % per cent per annum and would run for two years, which would be 2y2 per cent. Mr. LAMONT. T W O and a half per cent for the privilege, and they had the privilege on their part of surrendering the thing at the end of a year. Senator JOHNSON. Do you know who arranged the Bank of England credit with the Federal reserve? Mr. LAMONT. I have not the remotest idea. At the time in question the Bank of England had as its head Governor Norman, and the 53 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York was Mr, Strong. Ve had nothing to do with that and no knowledge of it. I mentioned it particularly oecause Mr. McFadden, in the House of Representatives, was good enough some time ago to credit us with having been active in the arranging of it, and I just wanted to go on record by saying we had nothing to do with it Senator BARKLET. Mr. Lamont, this question may be one that you prefer not to answer* It may be a question about which if you have an opinion you do not wish to give it. But as to this inorar torium, upon which this resolution is based, or at least in some way connected, providing for a suspension for one year of the payment to us of the interallied debts by European countries, six months of the time has now been consumed, and it will run only until the 30th of next June. The provision is that over a period of 10 years after that time this amount to be paid this year will be spread out and be paid in addition to the regular annual payment which will come due. Have you any opinion or would you be willing to express an opinion now as to whether the governments involved will be able to meet their regular annual obligations beginning at the end of this one year of suspension, and also one-tenth of the amount they should have paid this year: spread out over that period. Or will they be faced by the same situation then that we are up against now ? Mr. LAMONT. Senator Barkley, I would not dare venture an opinion on that. I would not dare to do it. I think the officials of the United States Treasury have all the information and will be able to get all the information from month to month thatJLS possible and available on those questions* But as to either prejudging or prophesying I would not dare to do it. Senator KEED. Furthermore, what might be true of one government might not be true of alt Senator BARKLEY. Yes; I realize that. Mr. LAMONT. Quite true, quite true. Senator HOWELL. Mr. Lamont is it not true that some of these governments that will be affected by the moratorium should pay now? Mr. LAMONT. I am not in a position to answer that categorically, because, as I say, you can study their budgets, you can study what their present economy is. I prefer not to be drawn into a discussion, if you please, on matters that are so strictly pertinent to the Government. I have great confidence in the officials of this country being able to handle the situation adequately. The CHAIRMAN. Are there any other questions? Senator REED. I S there anything, Mr. Lamont, that you would like to say before youfinisht Senator JOHNSON. Mr. Chairman, may I ask: Mr. Lamont, have you any knowledge on the subject of industrial loans or loans other than those that are governmental? Mr- LAMONT. I have no detailed knowledge whatsoever, Senator Johnson, but I take it from what Senator Smoot, the chairman, has said you purpose calling various other bankers here who will be able to give you entirely adequate information on that Senator JOHNSON. You have not dealt with the industrials? Mr. LAMONT. No; we have not dealt with that phase of the situation. ; Senator JOHNSON. Nor with short-term credits? 54 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT: Nor with short-term credits that are outstanding; no. I mentioned a while ago that we had some revolving credits and you just alluded to one with the British Government back in 1925. Senator JOHNSON. I was speaking of German short term. Mr. LAMONT. N O . A S I said this morning, our practice was not to undertake German short-term credits, and the point that I made was that that whole phase, I thought, had been unduly exaggerated in the public mind as to its extent and importance. Senator GORE. Mr. Lamont, one other question. Mr. LAMONT. Certainly. Senator GORE. I notice in the year 1 9 2 9 foreign loans in this country were greatly reduced. Was that due in part to the pendency of the Young plan and the high money rates in this country? Mr. LAMONT. Why, I would think so, and because at that time the need was not insistent from possible foreign borrowers. Of course, the moment that the difficulties of the autumn of 1929 arrived the idea of making foreign loans fell very much into the background. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Mr. Lamont, Senator Gore asked you how much of the German foreign bonds your company held and you said you would supply it for the record. Have you any objection—if you have I wish you would state it—to supplying the total amount of foreign bonds which your house now holds or the agencies with which it is connected? Senator REED. That will be shown in this statement that you are going to send us, will it not, Mr. Lamont? Mr. LAMONT. Well, so far as that is concerned, Senator Walsh, we have no agencies. I mean—yes; we are by ourselves, as far as that is concerned. Now, as far as furnishing that information is concerned, we have no objection whatsoever to furnishing it in confidence to the members of the Finance Committee of the Senate. I think it would be probably unwise for detailed information of that kind, representing the portfolios to a certain extent of all the banks, leading banks and banking houses in the United States, to be made public. I can not conceive of what good that would do. Senator W A L S H of Montana. I appreciate that. Mr. LAMONT. D O you see? But so far as the purposes of this committee are concerned, we have absolutely nothing to conceal. Senator W ^ L S H of Montana. O F course, if it were a larger sum it would indicate that you had great confidence in these securities and you are willing to assume tne responsibility you are asking other banks and private individuals to assume. Mr. LAMONT. That might be and that might not be, because, Senator Walsh, our business is not to be investors ourselves, in the last analysis, but to be merchants. Senator W A L S H of Montana. I understood that. Mr. LAMONT. And you can also realize that in times that we are going through in this country it has been especially important for large banks and large banking houses like ourselves to keep as liquid possible for the purpose of meeting domestic situations. Senator GORE. I S your organization afirmor corporation ? Mr. LAMONT. We are a partnership with unlimited liability. 55 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Senator B A R K L E Y . Mr. Lamont, do you think that trade barriers sucli as tariffs between our country and other countries and among other countries in the world has had any effect on the capacity of our debtors to pay? Mr. L A M O N T . N O W , that is a pretty broad question, and I have such a regard for the chairman of the Finance Committee that I do not want to get into argument with him about the tariff, because I am a low-tariff Republican. Senator B A R K L E Y . Your answer is yes, then. Senator K I N O . I think there are other low-tariff Republicans. Senator GORE. Don't press him on that point. Senator BARKLEY. I say, your answer was " Yes." Senator SIIORTRIDGE. Would you cite any agricultural item in the tariff the rate on which should be reduced? Mr. L A M O N T . N O ; I am not an expert on the tariff. I will trust to Senator Smoot on that, in the last analysis. The C H A I R M A N . Or any other rates under the conditions as existing in the world. Senator SHORTRIDOE. I S there any item in that tariff The C H A I R M A N (interposing). Raised in California. Senator SHORTRIDOE. Raised in California or anywhere else that you would have reduced ? Senator COSTIGAN. Mr. Chairman, before we adjourn may I ask a question? The C H A I R M A N . Certainly. b Mr. COSTIGAN. Mr. Lamont, I was out of the room part of the time, and you may have already spoken on this subject. Has your firm handled municipal German bonds? Mr. L A M O N T . We have never handled any municipal German bonds or any bonds other than two issues of German Government bonds, which I described in the course of the testimony. Senator COSTIGAN. One more question: It happens that I come from Colorado. On what principle do you allot bonds to particular banks? For example, on what principle would you allot a certain amount of bonds to a Colorado bank for sale? Mr. L A M O N T . We would allot those bonds to the Colorado bank, Senator Costigan. purely on the basis of the amount that they wanted and thougnt they could dispose of to advantage. Senator COSTIGAN. Have you determined that amount in advance, articular quantity that they feel ndling syndicates, so as to start somewhere, is to say" we are able to offer you an interest in this syndicate of a hundred thousand dollars bonds, or whatever the figure may be. Senator K I N G . Hundred million? Mr. L A M O N T . N O ; I am speaking of any one particular house. A hundred thousand dollars bonds, and then the house receiying that determines as to whether it wants a hundred or 50 or none. Senator COSTIGAN. If a bank declines to take its allotment, or any allotment, is it at a disadvantage with respect to the handling of any future bonds? Mr* L A M O N T . Oh, no; except on a common-sense basis—that is, if a house found itself consistently unable to place any bonds, 56 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES eventually we would take that as an intimation that it did not care to have an invitation extended. That is all. Senator COSTTGAN. In other words, in line with your testimony this morning, you wish us to understand that no: compulsion, direct or indirect, is brought to hear upon any individual bank to take a particular issue? Mr. LAMONT. Absolutely, completely. Senator JOHNSON. One thing more, if you •will pardon me. Mr. LAMONT. It is all right. Senator JOHNSON. I S the house of Morgan thefinancialrepresentative or agent of Italy at the present time? Mr. LAMONT. A S I said in the early part of my testimony, Senator Johnson, we have nofixedfinancialor fiscal agency arrangements with anybody, with any foreign government. We have undertaken in certain instances to act for such governments ill afinancialway, and in the absence of any withdrawal of either side those loose arrangements have continued; but as for calling ourselves specifically thefinancialagents of the Government of Italy, or any other government, we do not do that. We have no right to do it, and they have every right to go any where they please. Senator JOHNSON. I S the same arrangement which you suggest, and only that, in vogue with France? Mr. LAMONT. Quite. Senator JOHNSON. IS the same arrangement in vogue with Great Britain? Mr. LAMONT. It is in vogue with every country. Senator JOHNSON. Well, has any other country had any other representative in New York besides the house of Morgan? Mr. LAMONT. Any other country than what? Senator JOHNSON. Great Britain, France, or Italy. Mr. LAMONT. In the case of Great Britain, we have since during the war been their chief representative. That does not mean that they may not have had relations with somebody else that we do not know about, but we have been their chief representative in connection with financial matters in America, other than their Government relations. - Senator GORE. What other foreign countries? Mr. LAMONT. Pardon me, if I may continue to answer Senator Johnson's question. He asked me specifically. Senator GORE. Yes. . Mr. LAMONT. In the case of France they have had, we thought, considerable relations with other houses. The same is true with Italy. Although any large issues of public loans like this have always been concentrated with us so far as negotiations are concerned. Senator SEED. It is true, is it not, Mr. Lamont, that in recent years Italy has been paying the United States Government through Kidder, Peabody & Co.? 'V . - Mr. LAMONT. That has been their practice, as I recall it. Senator JOHNSON. I did not follow7 what Senator Reed said. I do not know whether it related to what I asked or not. - Mr. LAMONT. Yes; it has a bearing on that. Senator REED. I said that in recent years Italy had been making her payments to the United States on her Government debt through the house of Kidder, Peabody & Co. 57 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES Mr. LAMONT. I am not aware, Senator Reed, as to how complete that is. I know that they have utilized Kidder, Peabody & Co.'s services at various times. That is as far as I should be able to go. Senator JOHNSON. Have you an establishment in Paris, Mr. Lamont? Mr. LAMONT. There is a Paris house called Morgan & Co. which is allied with our New York house. Senator JOHNSON. Have you a house in London? Mr. LAMONT. In the same way we have a firm in London that is under the British laws, of course, called Morgan, Grenfcll & Co. Senator JOHNSON. In Rome? Mr. LAMONT. NO. Those are the ony two affiiations that we have. Senator JOHNSON. NOW, Senator Reed spoke of Kidder, Peabody. Are you connected in any fashion with them? Mr. LAMONT. None whatsoever. Senator JOHNSON. They have been partners in your syndicates? Mr. LAMONT. In some and not in others. Senator JOHNSON. That is all so far as I am concerned. Mr. LAMONT. Senator Reed asked me one question as to whether there were any general remarks, and in reply to that I might permit myself to say very briefly that, while I regard this question of foreign bond issues and the whole relation with foreign finance as undoubtedly an important factor in our whole situation, in all Ameri* can economy: an important factor infinanceand trade, and all that; nevertheless, we do not deem it as of anything like the importance that the domestic situation has, if I may say so. In other words, we think that all the alarums and excursions that have unfortunately come in the last few months, and have exaggerated in the public mind the extent of American foreign investments, is somewhat unfortunate. It may have been inevitable, but it is somewhat unfortunate. I alluded this morning to our belief and knowledge that no American banking institution was in the slightest degree embarrassed by its holding of short-term foreign credits. We think—at least I think; I am expressing an individual view in this, of course—I think that if we can address ourselves-to certain phases of our domestic situation, our foreign situation wrill in due course help to take care of itself. In other words, I think that^ in this bond market that we were describing, in which we have witnessed a decline in the markets of domestic bonds as well as foreign bonds, we see that the railroad bonds are in a way the backbone of the market That is to say, the transportation industiy of this country is the chief great industry of the country. It is under a cloud to-day, because its earnings are not apparently sufficiently close to its outgo. That is the reason that we have lieen very much pleased by the report that the workers, the railway workers, were themselves contemplating a voluntary reduction of wages, coming down somewhat in line with the reductions of wages in other industries and on the farms; because we can't see that as the one factor at the present moment, the great factor at the present moment, that will tend to lead to stability in our domestic bond market, which, after all, is the backbone of our investment community. Anything that the American community can do in expressing good will toward" getting this negotiation for the reduction 58 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR, SECURITIES of wages and the rehabilitation of the railways put on a swift and effective basis—that is going to contribute more than any other one thing, outside of sound legislation at Washington. I may permit myself to thank you. Senator Smoot, and all the other Senators here, for your exceeding courtesy. The CHAIRMAN. We thank you for coming. Senator COUZENS. I would like to ask Mr. Lamont one thing, so long as you brought up the railroads: Is it your opinion, Mr. Lamont, that therailroads will need governmental aid,financialaid? Senator WATSON. Speak a little louder, will you, Senator? Senator COUZENS. I asked Mr. Lamont if it was his opinion that the railroads would need governmental aid financially. Mr. LAMONT. Senator Couzens, I am a little puzzled as to just how to answer that, and I will tell you why I am a little embarrassed. I understand that there is pending before the Congress now a recommendation on the part of the administration as to the formation of a so-called emergencyfinancecorporation, and I should not wish to be understood as coming over here and pretending to tell any Members of this Congress what they should or should not do, because, as I say, I have every confidence in the discretion and capacity of this Congress. If I were to be forced to give a personal opinion, I should say that the bill authorizing the creation of such a corporation was of very great importance at the present moment. I would believe that the earlier such a corporation would be formed the less it would be called upon to perform any functions. Senator COUZENS. I do not think Mr. Lamont quite got the point. The so-called reconstruction loan fund that the President has suggested proposed to set up $500,000,000 for refinancing banks and financial institutions and railroads. That proposed to set up an entirely new organization which, obviously, will take considerable time, because it means the election of; three or four new directors, which will have to be picked out and confirmed by the Senate, and it also will be devoted to the refinancing of closed banks and other destitutefinancialinstitutions. The railroads, however, have had experience with the Government in going through the Treasury Department with adequate collateral, which has been satisfactory both to the railroads and with the Government. I was asking tlie question whether or not, in Mr. Lamont's opinion, the railroads can wait until this so-called reconstruction corporation is set up. Mr. LAMONT. Well, of course, you never can tell just how long you can keep the patient going, but if there were signs in the Senate and House of early action, prompt action, with reference to this corporation, Senator Couzens, I should say that the railroads would get along until that time. But I do think it would have to be early. Senator COUZENS. Representations have been made to me that the railroads are in dire need of assistance and that .they are unable to borrow it through the New York investment houses; that the New York Central is in need, and other railroads are in great need, and that the New Yorkfinancialhouses have refused to come to their assistance. Is that: correct? S A L E OF . F O R E I G N BONDS OR S E C U R I T I E S 59 Mr. L A M O N T . Oh, in that form I would not say it were correct at all, Senator Couzens. Certain solvent railways are financing their immediate needs by means of short-term loans, which the banking houses and the banks have been very ready to grant. They have done everything to keep this situation going in good shape. But, manifestly, banks and banking houses can not continue to lock up their resources indefinitely in such short-term loans, for in accordance with the practice those loans must be refunded into bonds before very long. Now, with the existing bond market they can not be refunded. The houses have not refused, but they are not able—if the issues of these highly solvent roads that we know about are selling far below par as they are—it is quite impossible for them at present to market another issue obviously. Senator C O U Z E N S . May I ask how long these New York houses will be willing to carry these railroads on short-term loans before converting them into long-term bonds? Mr. L A M O N T . There is not any answer that could be made to that. The banks in New York, just like the banks all over the country, are doing everything in the world they can to fulfill the requirements of their customers, everything. Senator C O U Z E N S . N O W , in these short-time loans that you are making to these banks prior to the time of converting them into long-time bonds, how long have you made those loans for? Mr. L A M O N T . Oh, they vary. I do not know. They might be 90 days, mi "lit be 6 months. The maturity does not make much difference. The nominal maturity, Senator Couzens, does not make much difference, because if things are going along a bank wants to renew if it can. But I am just pointing out in general terms the state of this very basic industry and the necessity for cooperation along two lines: One, wage reductions so as to enable them to balance their budgets, and the other, possible emergency corporation for use to turn to in the very near future. Senator COUZENS. H O W long will that require, in your judgment, this emergency loan from the Government, if such were arranged? Mr. L A M O N T . Oh, that would work out, I suppose. Why, nobody can tell. You know, even better than I,, how the War Emergency Corporation functioned, how successfully it functioned. It took in quite a lot of loans at the outset and then began to liquidate it The same general course would follow, I would think. But the authorization by Congress in the setting of it up in itself will be a very great help. And as I said at the start on this point, on the point you are inquiring about, the sooner you do it the less you will need it. Senator K I N G , Mr. Lamont, the credit corporation which has been organized of $500,000,000, will that not perform some of the functions and meet some of the exigencies to which you refer? Mr. L A M O N T * You are referring to the; emergency banking corporation? Senator KING..Yes. Mr. L A M O N T . That is doing all it can already, Senator, with the banks. That has no power, of course, to make loans to railroads or industrials. 60 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Senator K I N G . I understand that, but as I understood one of the questions of Senator Couzens—and I may have misunderstood him—he included in the functions of this organization giving the. banks credits. Senator COUZENS. That is correct. Senator K I N G . And I was Wondering if the credit corporation, with its $500,000,000—and I have, talked withthe President on two occasions—was not in position to give effective aid to banks that have frozen assets and perhaps some banks that are in the hands of receivers. Mr. L A M O N T . Well, SO far as the banks whose assets are good and yet are more or less frozen, as I undeistand it that corporation is already functioning in their favor very decidedly. So far as assets that are in the hands of receivers, I should not think that that corporation would have power to function. Senator K I N G . I think that it does. However J it has the right to loan to banks where they have good collateral? Mr. L A M O N T . Yes; that is true; But that is banks. Senator Couzens is asking about railroads. Senator K I N G . Yes. Senator COUZENS. N O W , may I ask Mr. Lamont if he knows what rate of interest thesefinancialhouses are charging the railroads for their short-time financing? Mr. L A M O N T . Current rates. Senator COUZENS. What is that? Mr. L A M O N T . Why, darned if I know. I suppose thatSenator SHOBTRIDGE (interposing). Five, 6, 7, 8 per cent? Mr. L A M O N T . No, no. Just before the Federal reserve bank raised its discount rate and before money became a little dearer than it had been the rates were very low. Now they are still in accordance with the current market. Senator COUZENS. Representations have been made to me that any sound railroad at this time needing money in Wall Street would be required to pay 7 and 8 per cent. Is that your understanding? Mr. L A M O N T . I have never seen any such loans on such a basis, never. Senator SHOBTRIDGE, What would it be? Mr. Lamont? Mr. L A M O N T . I do not follow the details of banking. I am probably culpable, but I do not, very frankly. But I heard a debate the other day as to whether this railroad which was borrowing considerable should pay 4 or per cent, if that will give you any light. Senator COUZENS. May I ask Mr. Lamont what railroads his house, the house of Morgan, arefiscalagents for? Mr. L A M O N T . We are not formal fiscal agents for any road, Senator Couzens. Years and years ago we had certain formal fiscal arrangements with two or three roads, but by mutual consent those were wiped out, oh, 10 or 15 years ago, and we are not formal fiscal agents for any of them. But by tradition and practice we act for a number of them. Senator COUZENS. What are those? Mr. L A M O N T . Welly among them I would mention the New York Central, Northern Pacific, Chesapeake & Ohio. 61 SALlE OF F O R E I G N ; B O N D S OR SECURITIES Senator C O U Z E N S . Does that include all of the Van Swearengen •enterprises? Mr. L A M O N T * N O ; not all of them. The Chesapeake & Ohio happens to be one of the railroads. No; those are divided up, as a matter of fact. Formerly they were in more or less groupings that had separate bankers, and we have not wanted to disturb existing arrangements* I do not mean by any method of seeming exclusion to make my list limited, but I am just mentioning a few companies that cofrne to my mind. Senator B A R K L E Y . Mr. Lamont, it has been Stated that of the $500,000,000 supposed to be available through this credit corporation for assisting destitute banks and others, only $15,000,000 has been granted or used. Do you know whether that is accurate or not? Mr. L A M O N T . No; 1 have no information on that at all, Senator. You see, this company has to do with incorporated banks, and we had no part in that except initially to assist; cooperate as we could, in the furtherance of it, and I would say that we would subscribe to some of the capital stock if we were wanted to. Senator B A R K L E Y . Y O U do not know anything about the details of its operation? Mr. L A M O N T . Not a thing. That is in the hands of the respective clearing houses in the various financial centers of the country. Senator COSTIGAN. Mr- Lamont. Mr. L A M O N T . Yes, SenatorSenator COSTIGAN. If the question is deemed relevant and proper by you, may I ask whether any member of the house of J. P. Morgan & Co. is a director in any of the leading banking institutions in ••aiiy of the countries, the securities of which have bee:n marketed in tins country ? For instance, Germany, or Great Britain, if Great Britain be included? Mr. L A M O N T . Let me say first that no question that any Senator of this committee would ask would be anything but proper. Second, if I understand the question, it is as t<* whether any member of the firm of J. P. Morgan & Co. is a director in any foreign bank located in any one of the countries whose governments have arranged loans through us in this country. Is that correct? Senator COSTIGAN. That is the substance. Mr, L A M O N T . The answer is no. The C H A I R M A N . We thank you. Senator GORE. Mr. Lamont, not being a corporation, I suppose yon have no outstanding stock or capital. Is there any statement showing the capitalization?^ Mr. L A M O N T . N O ; there is no published statement at all. Fortunately, or unfortunately, the entire resources of every member of the firm are pledged to the fulfillment of all our obligations. Senator R E E D . Mr. Lamont, I think you made a slip of the tongue when you said that the Paris and London firms were the only other firms with which you knew your house was connected. Isn't there a connection with Drexel & Co.? Mr. L A M O N T . He asked me foreign. Senator REED. You did not answer in that way. 92G2&-51—PTl 6 62 SALE * OP FOREIGN' BONDS: OR i SECURITIES Mr; L A M O N T . Oh, pardon me; I am glad you reminded me of that, Senator. Oh, yes; Drexel & Co., at Philadelphia. Senator JOHNSON. I was not referring to any domestic companies. Senator REED. His answer- did not indicate that. Senator JOHNSON. You istate the connections in this country are very numerous? Mr. L A M O N T . NO, Senator Johnson. I am very glad you brought that up. (Drexel & CoV are the only affiliate we have; Drexel & Co., Of Philadelphia. Senator JOHNSON. " The only affiliate." Just what do you mean by that? " ' -Mr. L A M O N T . I mean afirmin which we are interested. Senator JOHNSON. Oh, yes. But you have firms, however, that are representatives, agents, and the"'like, and of which you are agents and representatives, of course? Mr. L A M O N T . No; we have not; if I may differ from you radically. Senator JOHNSON. Pardon me? Mr. L A M O N T . I F I may differ from you radically, we have not. Senator JOHNSON. Oh, gracious; I am sure you differ from me radically, and we differ radically on many things, and always pleasantly. Mr. L A M O N T . Always pleasantly. Senator JOHNSON. YOU have—what do you call them, correspondents? Mr. L A M O N T . You see, we are a private banking house, Senator Johnson, and we do not solicit actively the accounts of interior banks and banking houses. We leave that in general terms to the incorporated institutions. I mean to say, the National City Bank, the Chase, the Guaranty, all have large lists of the interior depositors and correspondents running, I suppose, to two or three thousand. We have a few—some personal acquaintance or something like that, but very few. Senator GORE. H O W many members of your firm? Mr. L A M O N T . Excuse me. Senator Johnson has one thing more. # Senator JOHNSON. When a loan is allocated to houses, what list do you take? How do you determine the houses to allocate it to? Mr. L A M O N T . T O determine the make-up of the syndicates, Senator Johnson; that is to say, the list to whom we shall extend an invitation to join a particular syndicate, by the previous record we have in the office. Naturally, we keep a careful catalogue of the houses and banks that have been members of previous syndicates, and we utilize that. Senator JOHNSON. However tentative the connection may be, there are houses with which you are connected, of course, in the United States^ and many of them^ and that goes without saying, I take it, and so I did not inquire about local establishments or establishments in the United States with which in any degree you were connected. - Mr. L A M O N T . Well, there is ho use in getting into an argument about that. The connotation, in my thought, of your inquiry was •to the Effect that we had very-intimate relations through other houses to the extent of our being able to indicate' to such houses what our wishes were or what our judgment'was^ and I wanted to negative that idea. 63 SALlE OF FOREIGN; B O N D S OR S E C U R I T I E S Senator J O H N S O N . Then, you do not indicate what your wishes are to the various other houses? Mr. L A M O N T . I F we invite them in to take a part in the syndicate, that means that we think that we are inviting them to take a part in a sound enterprise. Senator J O H N S O N . Of course. Mr. L A M O N T . And they have the privilege of joining or not joining. Senator J O H N S O N . And, of course, you mvite those with whom you are familiar and with whom you have had dealings before? Mr. L A M O N T . Quite right. Senator J O H N S O N . I do not think there is any .disagreement between us in that respect. Mr. L A M O N T . Probably not. Senator GOUE. H O W many members are there of your firm? Mr. L A M O N T . I guess there are about 1 2 in New York now, 1 2 or 1 3 . Senator G O R E . I S there a published list? Mr, L A M O N T . Oh, yes, certainly; it is a matter of public record. Senator GOHE. I bhould be glad if you would turn it in when you are correcting your statement. Mr. LAMOXT.* Very well, sir. The C H A H « M A N , We thank you for your statement. (Witness excused.) TESTIMONY OF CHABLES E. MITCHELL, CHAIRMAN NATIONAL CITY BANK, NEW YOBK, N, Y. The C H A I R M A N . Y O U are associated with the National City Bank, New York ? Mr. M I T C H E L L . I ain chairman of the National City Bank of New York. The C H A I R M A N . H O W long have you held that position? Mr. M I T C H E L L . I became the president of the National City Co., which is the investment affiliate of the National City Bank, in 1916 or 1917: and I became president of the National City Bank in 1921 ahd I have been chairman and chief executive officer of the bank and of the affiliate company for something over three years. The C H A I R M A N . Are you associated in any way with J. P. Morgan & Co.? Mr. M I T C H E L L , Only in business relationships. The CHAIRMAN*. Not as an owner or an officer? M r . MITCHELL. N O , sir. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Mitchell, you have listened to the testimony of Mr. Lamont. You know about the trend of information that this committee desires to secure from you. If you have a statement that you desire to make, we should be very glad to hear it at this time and have vou tell the committee as near as possible what the National City l$ank has done by way of loans in any connection whatever with foreign countries; , T* Mr. MITCHELL! Senator Smooth I have prepared no statement for your committee, but I have been most interested in the line of questioning of Mr. Lamont, and l think perhaps it might be helpful, before .we go into the detail of our own operations, that I discuss with you some of the questions in whicfy within the last hour; you have shown a direct interest. 04 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES The CHAIRMAN. I am quite sure that the members of the committee will be interested in your statement along that line. Mr. MITCHELL. One point has particularly impressed me. A question was introduced as to what happened to the money that was raised by virtue of these foreign loans. These loans produce dollars to . the credit of the borrower, and except as those^ dollars are used in the payment of already existing debts in America, they must be used in the purchase of American products, American goods and services. Many of us have found a real inspiration in the fact that in the issuance of this large volume of foreign loans we were playing a part in the development of American trade and industry. That is ourfirstmotive always. We maintain branches of our bank the world around, at the crossroads of commerce, always for the benefit of American manufacture and American trade, and in our foreign security issues we look to the same result. If I may bring this one step forward in the discussion, I have had prepared a statement of the international payments, the balance of the international payments of the United States for the period from 1923 to 1930. It is very short, and if I may give it to the committee in its few items, I would like to have their attention. On the credit side we have, first, the excess of exports; that is, the excess of exports over imports, which runs to afigureof $4,850,000,000 during this period. Interest received, $4,100,000,000. Foreign investments in the United States; $1,722,000,000. War debt payments, which of course include miscellaneous government transactions, $1,196,000,000. Discounts and commissions, $746,000,000. Freight and shipping, $586,000,000. Miscellaneous items, $545,000,000; a total of $13,646,000,000. The CHAIRMAN.' What period of time? Mr. MITCHEIJ,. Trom 1923 to 1930, inclusive. Of course this figure is small by virtue of my taking into the credit side only the excess of exports over imports. On the debit side we have foreign investments, $6,293,000,000. Tourist expenditures, $4,233,000,000 • Senator K I N G . YOU are speaking of Europe only, are you? Mr. MITCHELL. I am speaking of the entire world. Immigration remittances and charity, $2,193,000,000. Ocean passenger • traffic, $474,000,000; and the balancing item is gold, $453,000,000. Now I ask you, gentlemen^ what would happen if we were to remove the item of $6,293,000,000? covering the foreign investments? In the balancing of the account it would have to be covered by a reduction of some of these items that are on the credit side. It is my opinion that it will show itself particularly in an elimination of the item of excess of exports, which has been $4,850,000,000. Foreign investments, in other words, very largely control the volume of the export business of the United States. They should have, therefore, a sound basis of desirability to the most critically patriotic of Americans; and the fact that the banking interests of this country havefloatedforeign loans in America is something which should have the; praise; rather than the criticism of any body of men. 65 SALlE O F FOREIGN; B O N D S OR SECURITIES That is a general statement with respect to this phase of foreign investments. Senator C O U Z E N S . D O you mind if I interrupt you at this point? M r . MITCHELL. NO, sir. Senator C O U Z E N S . $6,000,000,000? M r . MITCHELL. YOU Yes. say we invested in foreign countries Senator C O U Z E N S . I assume that the investment was made for the purpose of manufacturing goods in those countries? Mr. M I T C H E L L . I do not think, Senator, that that is a safe conclusion. To some extent it has been used to increase the productivity of other countries. Senator COUZENS. Do you know to what extent? Mr. M I T C H E L L . With respect to our loans to Germany, we have always endeavored to bring them within the requirement that the avails-shall be used for productive purposes. Senator C O U Z E N S . Yes; but what I was trying to get at was this. You say $0,000,000,000 has been invested in foreign countries, and 1 was wondering what proportion of that amount was used to produce goods that had heretofore been made in America. Mr.'MITCHELL. That I can not answer, sir. Senator COVZKNH. Would you say that A large proportion of the $0,000,000,000 was invested there by producers in this country to avoid the tariff over there? Mr. M I T C H E L L . NO; a very small portion of itvSenator Couzens. Senator C O U Z E N S . I S it not a fact that American industries have gone to foreign countries, including Canada, Great Britain, Germany, and France, to manufacture, in order to avoid having to pay the current tariff there? Mr. M I T C H E L L . That is quite true; yes. Senator C O U Z E N S . Y O U do not know what percentage that is of the $6,000,000,000 i Mr. M I T C H E L L . No, sir; that I can not answer from these figures. Senator B A I I K L E T . That does not represent our total foreign investments; that covers the 8-year period from 1023 to 1D30? Mr. M I T C H E L L . That is right Senator B A R K L E Y . And ii there have been any removals of American industries resulting from recent tariffs, it has been since these figures were compiled ? Mr. M I T C H E L L . Y O U are quite right, Senator. Senator GEORGE. Y O U were asked if that $6,000,000,000 represents a mere removal of capital or loans or investments Mr. M I T C H E L L . It represents entirely capital loaned which should come back through our taking of foreign goods and services. If it does not come back in that way, it will either stay out or come back in the form of gold. Senator GEORGE. I meant, though, did that $6,000,000,000 item represent the mere removal of an industry, for instance, from this country into Canada? Mr. M I T C H E L L . Oh, yes; now I understand your question. Senator GEORGE. That is what I thought. Mr. M I T C H E L L . That represents capital that went into the hands of foreigners enabling them to buy our .cotton and our copper and pur manufactured goods* 66 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS OB SECURITIES '-Senator L A FOLLETTE. I S that sum exclusive of the foreign governmental obligations that have beenfloatedin this country ? Mr. MITCHELL. 1 No ; it includes that. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Can you tell us what proportion of the 6,000,000,000-figure you have used in foreign governmental obligations ? And by that I mean to include either the central governments or political subdivisions thereof. M R ! MITCHELL. No; I can not. I can give you the figure of our own business from which you maybe could possibly get some inkling. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Of course, in so far as any portion of that is foreign governmental obligations, those loans did not necessarily result in any orders for American goods placed in this country, did they? Mr. MITCHELL. Senator La Follette, as I said at the very outset, that is the only way such moneys can be used, except as they may be used for the payment of debts to America already existing. In other words, they must be used for the purchase of American-goods or for the payment of debts. Senator La Follette. I understood Mr. Lamont to say that in making these governmental loans it was often impossible to* tell what purpose the proceeds were to be used for; that where the loan was made to a governmental entity it might be used for balancing the budget or, in other words, as I understood it, it was lost in the economy of the governmental entity to whom the loan was extended. Mr. MITCHELL. Senator La Follette, I fear we are are mixing two questions. One is the purpose of the loan. That might be for one thing or another, but it does not affect the particular question of how the exchange is used. May I illustrate in an attempt to clarify? Senator L A FOLLETTE. I F I understand you, what you mean is that when these obligations are ultimately paid off it must be done by either a balance of trade established in this country by the foreign government, or it must come in the form of gold. Mr. MITCHELL. No; I am sorry,;Senator La Follette, that I failed to make myself clear. Let me illustrate simply. Let us say foreign country X causes a loan to befloatedin this market, and the avails of that loan are put on deposit with the National City Bank. That country has dollars at that time. That country may have no need for dollars. It may be that they, are goin^ to use that money for the purchase of something in England or the payment of a debt in England. What they do then is to sell the dollars to somebody that wants them, and buy sterling. But that dollar credit that was made for them is then passed to somebody else, and it will always stand out as a dollar credit until it is used by somebody: and the only way in which the dollar credit can be used is in the purchase of American goods or in the payment of some debt that is already existent in America. Do T make myself clear ? Has my illustration clarified it ? Senator GORE. I am anxious to,arrive at what Mr. Mitchell includes in his $6,000,000,000. Tlie Department of Commerce in its handbook puts our total foreign loans and investments, including those: publicly and privately taken, and direct investments.1 at "about $15,000,000, and the amounts are about equal! Those publicly offered and privately taken are in the neighborhood of $7,000,000,000. and the 67 SALlE O F F O R E I G N ; B O N D S OR SECURITIES direct investments, so called, are about $ 7 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , Just what do you include in your $6,000,000,000? t Mr. M I T C H E L L . I include the amount of foreign issues made during the period from 1923 to 1930, which figures are revealed in the report of the Department of Commerce. Those figures are drawn from their report, sir. Senator SHORTRIDOE. Floated here in America? Mr. M I T C H E L L . Floated here in America during that period. Senator SHORTRIDOE, By private concerns as well as Government issues ? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s , s i r . The C H A I R M A N . That does not include all we have, does it? Senator SHORTRIDOE. I do not understand it. Mr. A I I T C H E L L . Senator Smoot, of course it does not include those issues made prior to 1923. Those that are still outstanding will add to the amount. The C H A I R M A N . And that is about $ 9 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 ? Mr. M I T C H E L L . I notice that Congressman McFadden made the statement the other day in the House that $17,000,000,000 in private foreign securities, including those of South America, were held in the United States. The facts as revealed by the report of the Department of Commerce are that there were still outstanding at the end of 1930 $7,836,000,000 of foreign securities. In addition to that, of course Senator SHORTRIDOE. Pardon me. Foreign securities held here in America, }Tou mean? Mr. M I T C H E L L . Foreign securities held here in America. In addition to that, of course, there is a large amount of American capital directly invested abroad by American corporations. The C H A I R M A N . That is what I had reference to. Mr. M I T C H E L L . That has to be added, naturally. The C H A I R M A N . I was going to ask you if in this $ 6 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 that you speak of there is not included" the amount of money that Americans have invested' in Czechoslovakia for the manufacture of goods. It does not cover any part of that investment? Mr. M I T C H E L L . It does not. It includes only those publicly^ issued offerings that have been made in this country. It does not include investment of private corporations. In addition, it does not include about $125,000,000 for long-term capital employed by financial institutions in exchange and what not. Senator C O N N ALLY. I want to see if I caught Mr. * Mitchell's answer correctlv when he replied to Senator La toilette. * You take tlie position that a foreign government makes a loan here and gets dollars credit and that that money can then be expended for buying American commodities in the finai analysis? * Mr. MrRCIIELL. That is certainly so, sir. Senator C O N N A L L Y . That credit is on the books of your bank. But suppose that government wants gold. Would you not have to send your gold abroad?; Suppose they say, " We don't want to buy any American goods; we don\ want to buy anything in America; we want the gold." Then you would have to ship it to tliemi M r . MITCHELL. Yes; Senator C O N N A L L Y . Then it would not be put into the buying of American goods or the payment of debts, would it ? They could buy 68 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS OB SECURITIES their goods wherever they wanted to, or pay their debts wherever they wanted to? Senator SHORTRIDGE. They would buy shoes in Czechoslovakia rather than here in- America ? Mr. M I T C H E L L . What is that, Senator? Senator SHORTRIDGE. In a word, they would have the right to call, 1 " ,J1 fo " not? ' OS. Senator SHORTRIDGE. But it is not customary for it to go abroad in that manner? Mr. MITCHELL. I do not recall any case, Senator, where that has. been done. 'X Senator B A R K L E Y . In case of country X iborrowing $ 1 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 * from ybur bank or from any other-bank in this country, the object of which ultimately was to pay somebody they owed in England,, they convert these dollars into pounds, or if they want to pay somebody in Switzerland they may convert them into pounds and then convert the;pounds into the circulating medium of Switzerland, and so on, until they finally get to the fellow to whom they; owe the* money, and they pay him out of-this loan that they have obtained here.f«'-And>it may be that the country into whose circulating medium the money is transferred uses that to buy goods in this country or to pay somebodyan this country whom they owe.4 So that in that roundabout way your original statement is practically correct,, al* though it is possible that it might be subject to modification in caseany country demanded gold instead of the credit. ; M R . M I T C H E L L . • Quite so.f You never can destroy the credit being* used in that way- It must be used by somebody. * Senator SHORTRIDGE. Much of this loan went to Czechoslovakia,, did it not? , Mr. MITCHELL. We have had several loans there; Senator SHORTRIDGE. To develop their shoe industry there, chiefly,, which is; in competition with ours ? • Mr; M I T C H E L L . It went to the government, however. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Hence our tariff, and rightly. Senator;COUZENS. Are you going ahead on the same lines of showin Senator C O N N A L L T ; Before you get off that subject: Then you would wish to modify your first statement?: Mr.iMrrcHELL. Why, yes; if they take gold, it is modified to that extent. Senator C O N N A L L T . That is what they want when they come over here to borrow. They want gold; they do > not want greenbacks, do they? Mr. M I T C H E L L . As you will clearly see, they have not taken the gold; Senator C O N N A L L T . I know; but you said it could not be done ia> any other way, and I just wanted to get the facts. Mr. M I T C H E L L . I grant that it can be taken out in gold, but it is seldom done; Senator L A FOLLETTE. Is it possible that if any of these credits were used to purchase American securities of. corporations in this 69 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES country it thus would be an investment rather than a purchase of goods? Mr. M I T C H E L L . It might easily be so. yes; where there were substantial repurchases, especially in Europe, of American securities. Senator LIA FOLLETTE. In other words, there was a certain amount of participation in our own stock-market operations during this period on the part of borrowers in this country? Mr. MITCHELL. Probably not by the borrowers. The dollar exchanged may have worked around into the hands of an investor who perhaps sola sterling and bought the dollar and that dollar bought American securities. Senator COUZENS. D O you discern a difference between an investor and a speculator? Mr. MITCHELL. They often change from being one to the other so rapidly that it is quite impossible, Senator Couzens. Senator GORE. A great many of these foreign debts payable in this -country *re actually paid in gold, Mr. Mitchell, are they not, and that is one reason for the accumulation of gold in this country now, is it not? Mr. MITCHELL. I would say that very few payments are made in that way, Senator. Senator GORE. What draws gold here, Mr. Mitchell? We hear a jrood deal about the pigment of these international balances either in goods, the transfer or credits, or gold. We have been given to understand that the exchange of goods was not as free as it might be, -and that a good many of these obligations had actually been paid in gold. Why does it come here if it does not come in payment of •debts? Mr. MITCHELL. The gold comes here and accumulates to make up this international balance of payments, especially Senator GORE. That is the-point Air. MITCHELL. We get balances created in this country because of the confidence of the world in this country, and those are very often converted into gold which is earrmarkei and held here; but that does not change the quantity. The quantity of gold comes as the result of this international balance of payment. Senator GORE. Paying in gold instead of goods? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s , s i r . May I revert to Senator Couzens's inquiry as to the difference l>etWeen an investor and a speculator, because I fear that I was a little facetious in the answer to it. I think I should say that where one buys for the purpose of receiving interest or dividends for income over a period, his future income to take care of his future requirements, he is obviously an investor. Where one buys with the idea that what he buys is going up in price quite promptly and he is prepared to sell the minute it moves up, that man is a speculator. Senator COUZENS. But you say they change very rapidly from one to the other? Mr. MITCHELL. I said that simply for this reason, Senator, that we oftenfind,,as perhaps many of you know, that one may buy something thinking that the security will have an early rise, and when it fails to do so, he continues to hold it and becomes an investor. Senator BARKLKT. There are a great many investors of that kind in this country now. 70 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Yes; there are a great many. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Y O U have read the resolution introduced by Senator Johnson, have you not? Mr! MITCHELL. I have; yes, sir; Senator SHORTRIDGE. Have-you prepared a'statement responsive to that resolution as far as you grasp its purpose? Mr. MITCHELL. I haveSenator SHORTRIDGE. I suggestJ Mr. Chairman, that Mr., Mitchell be permitted to present,to us;his statement, and then perhaps suffer cross-examination or further inquiry. The CHAIRMAN. Very well. You have an hour and 20 minutes. Mr. 'MITCHELL. May I be permitted for just a moment to carry on thefiguresthat I was giving, because I think it will round out what I wanted to say, and it will take but a moment, sir? The CHAIRMAN. Very well. Mr, MITCHELL; I wanted to add that of thisfigureof $7,841,000,000 which the Department of Commerce estimates as the total amount of foreign securities here, the member banks of the Federal reserve system as of June 30, this year, held $643,000,000. Of that total, $339,000,000, or somewhat more than half, was held by country banks, banks in the central reserve cities of New York and Chicago held $154,000,000, while banks in other reserve cities held $150,000,000. As to life-insurance holdings of foreign securities, the latest report for 52 legal reserve companies as of December 30, 1930, shows total foreign stocks and bonds of $581,000,000, of which it is interesting to note $517,000,000 were Canadian securities and $64,000,000 other foreign securities. Thus by far the greater part of the foreign issues outstanding in this market are distributed among individuals or institutions other than banks and lfe-insurance companies* How numerous the individual holders are is very difficult to estimate. » If we use thefiguresthat Senator Dwight Morrow presented in the article referred to in Mr. Lamont's testimony, of $3,269 as the average holding per individual of foreign securities, and divide that into the $7,836,000,000, we would deduce that the total number of investors in foreign securities in this country aggregates 2,400,000. That figure is obviously much too high. When we look at the income-taxfigures,,we find that in 1030 there were returns* from 3,376,000 individuals; 2,613,000, or 77 per cent, had incomes tinder $5,000, and would not be a very prolific field for foreign; security sales. ;; Perhaps the best figure one: can get is an estimate published in 1927 by Mr. McCoy, a Government actuary of the Treasury Department, thafr the number of individual holders of domestic"bonds at that' time* amounted to 1,300,000. How many of those individuals held foreign bonds is anybody's guess. Senator/WALSH. Much less, of course. Mr. MITCHELL. It is a guess. Senator SHORTRIDGE. That was in 1927? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes; i* Of course, there7 have been large issues of f o r e i ^ securities since then. I should say that probably the figure of foreign security holders in this country would probably be in excess or a million and a half in number. Mr;.MITCHELL. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Individual holders? 71 SALlE OF FOREIGN; B O N D S OR S E C U R I T I E S Mr. M I T C H E L L . Yes. Just one other point along this line. In view of what I sense as perhaps a criticism of publicly issued longterm foreign loans, I call attention to the fact that the Federal Farm Board, a Government body, extended in September unsecured longterm loans to* the German and Chinese nationalist governments w hich financed the export of wheat. Those loans /covered seven and a half million bushels of wheat to Germany to be paid for December, 31. 1934. with an interest rate of per cent, and about 15,000,000 bushels to China to be paid for in three installments, in 1934, 1935, and 1936. with an interest rate of 4 per cent. Of course there can be no vital difference between the flotation of a money loan made by American investors with which those countries could buy that wheat, and an extension by the United States Government of credit in the from of the wheat itself. Senator G O R E . They took Chinese bonds for those, did they not! Senator SHORTRIDGE. Mr. Chairman, this resolution calls for information as to— whether or not any bunks, banking institutions, corporation*?, or individuals engaged in the banking business In the United States have, as representatives or fiscal agents of any foreign governments, or otherwise, sold, floated, or allocated in the United States securities— And so forth. That is the information we are seeking. Senator R E E D . I think Mr. Mitchell has given us very interesting information about the relatively small holdings of banks, in these foreign securities. Senator SHORTRIDGE. That may well be. Senator HEED. I think that is especially significant at this time. The C H A I R M A N , I know it is in opposition to what the general opinion has been, and I think it ought to be clear. Senator SHORTMDGE. I have no objection to that. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. This is all part of the general statement that you asked the witness to make, that he thinks will be helpful. The C H A I R M A N . I think it will. Mr. M I T C H E L L . I introduced this purely on the theory that from your questioning of Mr. Lamont these figures might be* of interest, sir. Senator G O R E . Mr. Mitchell, the Farm Board took Chinese bonds for that wheat, did they not? Mr. M I T C H E L L . I have no information as to just what they took. Senator G O R E . That is my understanding. Your bank has not any of those Chinese bonds? Mr* M I T C H E L L . NO. My point was that there is ho difference bet tween issuing Chinese bonds to our public and furnishing them with dollars with which they could buy the wheat and having the Government itself make them a wheat loan. Senator G O R E . Or a gift, as the case might be? Mr. MiTCHEi-ii. ,/Vs it might be; Senator C O U Z E N S . I think there is a distinction there, Mr. Mitchellt Mr. M I T C H E L L . I have herfe, gentlemen, all of iihe issues handled by the National City Co. directly as managed from 1910 to datef and I shall be glad t& go through any pait ofc this,1 if you desire me to start and give you the details; The CHAIRMAN, How many countries are there? 72 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Mr. MITCHELL. I have not had this made up by countries. It is made up chronologically by dates of issue. I can start and go through on that basis, if desired., The CHAIRMAN. You have no objection to having it all printed in the record, have you? Mr. MITCHELL. Well, for the same reason that Mr. Lamont spoke of—no; I see no objection to having this published in the record. Senator SEED. What items of information does it give with regard to each issue, Mr. Mitchell ? Mr. MITCHELL. It starts out with the name of the issue, the date it was offered, the amount of the issue, the rate of the issue, the maturity of the issue, payments that have been made to date through sinking funds, the cost price, the offering price, the number of dealers that were associated with us, the number of dealers on original terras, and the profits to them— — Senator KEED. The gross profit? Mr. MITCHELL. The spread to them—profit spread, we call it. The CHAIRMAN. D O you mean gross or net profit? Mr. MITCHELL. That is the gross spread. Then, wherever there has been an intermediate group, the number interested therein, the spread and the profit in each case; then the banking group, the number of dealers participating therein, the profit spread, and the amount; then the selling group, the number of dealers interested therein, the profit spread, and the amount. The total expenses directly charged to the issue, which would be advertising, legal expense, telegraph, perhaps the traveling expenses of a negotiator—not the expenses of our own organization, which in general are expenses of our administration, clerical, statistical, and selling. Those would be the general expenses that are directly chargeable to the syndicates, and then there is drawn up the total net profit in the particular issue. Then I have taken the National City Co.'s retailing of each one of these issues, showing the participation that they had in the selling group, the amount of profit, what part they took in the intermediate group and in the banking group, and the profits there; the selling group, and the participation in profits there. The gross profits of the National City Co. are then aggregated from which the deductions are made of the discounts and the general expense, and thus we arrive at the net profit. Then there is shown the number of the National City Co.'s retail sales in each issue. Then I have produced, in addition to that, sheets referring to the issues of others in which the National City Co. has participated, which cover the same information as in the case of the directly managed issues. Much of this latter has been covered by Mr. Lamont already; but my sheets show the amount of our interest, and the sales and gross profits. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Can you state from that table the total face value of the foreign securities that you have merchandised? Senator SEED. First, the total in which you were the syndicate managers. Mr. MITCHELL. This total runs to $1,071,955,000. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. How much is outstanding! Mr. MITCHELL. There have been retired of that $222,866,000. Senator SHORTKEDGE. Government obligations, or Government and private concerns! 73 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR S E C U R I T I E S Mr. M I T C H E L L . Government and corporate. Senator T H O M A S of Idaho. Mr. Mitchell, you are now speaking of the operations of the National City Co.? Mr. M I T C H E L L . Where they were the originators of the issue. Senator T H O M A S of Idaho. Did the National City Bank handle issues aside from the National City Co.. or did the National City Co. handle all the issues? Mr. M I T C H E L L . They handled ail of the issues, sir. Senator HEED. Mr. "Mitchell, necessarily your .second tabulation, which includes other people's offerings in which you participated, must to some extent overlap with thefiguresgiven us by Mr. Lamont. Mr. M I T C H E L L . It does. Senator R E E D . That is, wherever you are interested in a Morgan issue, it would occur in both his statement and yours* Is that right? Mr. M I T C H E L L . Not in thefirstlist of which I have spoken. Senator R E E D . But in the second ? Mr. M I T C H E L L . In the second list it does. Senator B A R K L E Y . Mr. Mitchell, that tabulation has no relation to, nor any information concerning, the present holders of those bonds, does it ? Mr. M I T C H E L L . NO, Senator. Senator B A R K L E Y . Does it show what percentage of the amount of it your institution still holds, if any? Mr. MITCHELL.^ NO; but I am perfectly ready to tell you that our institution—for instance, the National City "Co., that' has floated this very large amount of bonds, having been interested in the flotation outside of the first list of $3,260,000,000 of other issues^-I think we have in our portfolio at the present time $350,000 worth of bonds. Senator GORE. In the National City Co. or in the National City Bank? Mr. M I T C H E L L . In the National City Co. Senator GORE. H O W many in the National City Bank? Senator R E E D . Mr. Chairman. I have no doubt Mr. Mitchell is perfectly willing to answer this for his own company. We are getting into the present-day private fortfolios of these banks, and I do not think we ought to ask for public answers. Thepresent witness is perfectly willing to answer. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Do you not suppose they will show in the returns of the banks? Senator R E E D . NO; only in the..gross totals. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Mr. Mitchell, let me ask you a question. Mr. M I T C H E L L . May I correct a figure, the figure as to the present holdings of the City Co.? Since I have already mentioned an amount, Senator Reed, I am going to take the liberty of a correction by saying we have $334,000 worth of foreign government bonds and $525,000 of foreign corporate bonds—that is, at par value. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Mr. Mitchell, let. me ask you one or two questions. Have you data before you which would enable you to tell us how many French Government bonds and how many French corporate bonds your house has handled as manager, if that be the proper phrase; and similarly, if so, as to German and as to English bonds? .Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts!: The first; table shoivs eyeiything he has: 74 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Senator SHORTRIDGE. I S that all there? Mr. MITCHELL. It would have to be picked out as to countries. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Have you it grouped together ? Mr. MITCHELL. The issues are listed here chronologically. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Y O U have not grouped it together, then, showing the French issues, the German issues, or other national issues ? Senator REED. We can have a clerk do that in an hour. Senator SHORTRIDGE. That is what I wanted to know, if that could be done. Senator REED. I ask that the two statements produced by the witness be put into the record at this point. Senator JOHNSON. Mr. Chairman, I am not a member of this committee, and I have not the right, of course, to indulge in any objection, but it is a perfectly silly idea to put long statements of this sort in the record without the commitee or anybodj* knowing what they are, and then, I presume,- prevent any cross-examinaion respecting them. Senator REED. I am not conscious, Mr. Chairman, of having suggested that the committee should not have them, or that it should not cross-examine, or that it should not now know everything that is in them. I think it will be convenient to have the statements appear in the record now, before we go any farther with the witness in the discussion of the statements. Senator JOHNSON. I have not any objection to that; but you were predicating it originally upon the statement that certain things the witness had volunteered ought not to be stated in his own interest or in the interest of hisfinancialinstitution, and I assumed from that that you did not desire publicity concerning the particular statements, or concerning any cross-examination upon these matters. Senator R E E D . NO; not at all. It is merely the details of the present portfolios, which, with most institutions, are their private business, and I do not think we ought to make them public, although we ought to get the information for ourselves. But these statements showing the issues they have managed and put out I think ought to appear in the record now; and I was going, for myself, to ask Mr. Mitchell to take up that matter and give us an analysis of these different issues that he has managed. The C H A I R M A N . I asked Mr. Mitchell to put them in the record, Senator Johnson, in thefirstplace. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Are thev in the record now? The C H A I R M A N . Without objection, they will be put in the record. (The statements referred to will appear in the appendix.) Senator GORE. I wish to ask a question now. A few minutes ago I propounded a question as to how many of these bonds are now held in the portfolio of the National City Bank. You stated the amount in the National City Co. If you have any objection to stating the amount in the portfolio of the bank, of course I will not insist on it. Nowr Senator Reed, did vour question include that as private information for the committee ? I did not understand. Senator REED. Oh, yes. As soon as these statements have been ordered printed, then I wanted to follow it up by asking Mr. Mitchell to send to the committee in writing a statement showing the present 75 SALlE OF FOREIGN; B O N D S OR S E C U R I T I E S holding of foreign bonds by the National City Co. and the National City Bank. Senntor W A L S H of Massachusetts. In other words, you are giving him the same protection Mr. Lamont had ? Senator REED. Exactly. Senator GORE. That will meet my desire. The C H A I R M A N . Mr. Mitchell, how long will it take you to send that information ? Mr. M I T C H E L L . Oh, I can give you that very promptly. Senator R E E D . By Monday? The C H A I R M A N . I should like to have that information follow this, so that we will have the whole picture at once. Senator REED. We are not going to print it. We are going to print this, of course. The CnAiRMAN. That is what I say. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. What? The C H A I R M A N . The confidential information. Mr. M I T C H E L L . For the confidential information of this committee, I can give the information before I leave Washington. The C H A I R M A N . That is all right. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Will you indulge my asking this? Then I am quite throught Let me ask you this question: Has your house acted as representative or fiscal agent for any foreign government? Has it or not? Mr. M I T C H E L L . " Fiscal agent" is a very vague term, Senator. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Representative, then. Is that as indefinite? Mr. M I T C H E L L . " RepresentativeT' is not a term that would seem to me to be a proper one. W e have relations with countries that are that close that we have done all of their financing in America. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Y O U have managed the disposal of certain foreign bonds of certain foreign governments? Is that right-? M r . MICHELL. Y e s , sir. Senator SHORTRIDGE. All right. With a view to distributing them out to the ultimate purchasers in America; is that right? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s , sir. Senator SHORTRIDGE. What I should like to get at is, have you handled any for the French Government, for example—the government as such? Mr. M I T C H E L L . Not for the Government directly; no, sir. Senator SHORTRIDGE. All right For corporations or municipalities in France? Mr. M I T C H E L L . I think not. We have handled, I think, directly, a railroad issue. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Very well. Now, what I should like to have put into the record in simple, straight, understandable shape is, what Government bonds or corporate bonds of French issue your house has handled in the way you have indicated; similarly as to all other foreign governments, so that we can have it clearly, simply before us; for we are plain, simple men, and want to "have the matter put in simple, plain manner. That is what I \rant to know. That is what this resolution calls for. Senator REED. Senator, I have just been looking over the statement that the witness has given us, and it shows exactly that in* formation in plain, simple, comprehensible language; but I suggest. 76 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES to make it clear, that you take that list now, Mr. Mitchell, and give* us the details with regard to each French issue that appears on that, statement, if there are any. Mr. M I T C H E L L . Just the French issues? Senator BEED. Yes; start with the French issues. Senator SHORTRIDGE. That is what I want. Then go on down. Senator BEED. Just pick out the .French issues, from that statement. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Would you like to proceed chronologically? That would save time. Senator SHORTRIDGE. I was about to suggest that. If there are any from Austria or Estonia or Belgium, go down alphabetically. Mr. MITCHELL. I am taking them up chronologically, which is the basis upon which this report is made. June, 1919, Swedish Government, an Issue of $25,000,000. The rate was 6 per cent. The issue matures in 1939. It was called for payment and paid 102 on June 15, 1929. The cost of that issue to us Vas 96%. The offering price was= 99%—in other; words, a gross spread of 3 points.On original terms we had 12 houses with us. They took a spread of 1 per cent. Then a banking group was formed, consisting of 422 dealers.. Their spread was one point and a quarter. Then a selling group was? formed of 341 dealers, with a spread of three-quarters of 1 per cent. The total expenses directly chargeable against that issue were $43,077; and the gross profit after these particular expenses incident thereto was a total of $711,000. The National City Co. participated in the selling group on the* original teniis to the-extent of $5,500,000; In the banking group it participated to the extent of $4,570,000. In the selling group it participated to the extent of $5,726,000. Its total profit on the deal, after these expenses, was $111,448.25.. The number of its own retail sales .was 962. This is the information that I can give as I go right, through this list. Senator KEED. The profit in that transaction amounted to about 2 per cent of the liability incurred by your company, then? Is that, right? Mr. MITCHET/L. Yes. Our original-terms liability was $5,500,000Our profit was $111,000. I ask in connection therewith, however, to call: your attention to the fact that we have a large organization, very far spread, the expenses; of which—which do not enter in in my statement of expenses here—run from a low of $6,000,000 to a high of $10,000,000 per year. Senator KEED. Is:any of that included here? Mr. M I T C H E L L . None of that is included. Senator BEED. All that has to be paid out of these profits? Mr.' M I T C H E L L . That all has to , be paid out of these and other profits. Senator REED. Have you deducted from these profits any salaries of: your salesmen or any commissions taken ? M I \ M I T C H E L L . None. 77 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Senator REED. JU.st to complete the story about that Issue, what part, if any, of that issue has been paid by the obligors? Mr. M I T C H E L L . It has all been paid. It was sold to the American public at par and has all been called at 102. Senator COUZENS. What is the next ? Mr. M I T C H E L L . The next issue was September 28, 1920, Kingdom of Norway, $20,000,000. These were 8 per cent bonds, due in 1940. This issue has since been called at 110. though offered to the American public at par. Our purchase price of that issue was 94*4—in other words, 3% per cent spread. Five houses participated with us on original terms in that issue, and hud a spread of three-quarters of 1 per cent. We formed an intermediate group of houses before coming to the socalled banking group—an intermediate group of 15 houses that took 1 per cent spread. Our banking group in this case was large—529 in the banking group. They had a spread of 2% per cent. Then we formed a selling group, 464 houses being in that group. They took a spread of V/* per cent. The total expenses directly charged to the issue were $19,294. The total profit was $1,130,705.08. The National City Co. had a participation on original terms in this issue of $6,750j)00. They had a participation of $4,809,000 in the intermediate group, a participation of $2,655,000 in the banking group, and a participation of $2,715,500 in the selling group. Our own organization, at retail, made 1909 separate sales. Their net profit, after deducting discounts and general expenses, was $165,085.31. The next issue was Solway et Cie, which is a Belgian company. They are a chemical company in Belgium. Senator COUZENS. D O we care to go into those private corporations? I do not see what wre have to do with that. Senator REED. It will all be in the record. If the committee wants it, we might as well go ahead. Senator COUZENS. Why not confine it to the foreign loans? Senator REED. This is a foreign company. Senator COUZENS. It is a foreign company, but it is not a foreign government. Senator SHORTRIDGE. I think it would be well to confine it to the foreign governments: and then if we want this additional information given in detail, that can be furnished. Senator L A FOLLETTE. The resolution calls for information concerning industrials as well. Senator COUZENS. But that is all going to be in the record; Senator SHORTRIDGE. All right. Senator COUZENS. Why not confine it to the countries, Mr. Chairman ? The C H A I R M A N . I should think it would be better to do that, because every one of them will be in the record. Senator COUZENS. Then if we want to go back to: it afterward, we can do so. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. What percentage are countries and what percentage are industrials, approximately ? 92928—31—tT 1 6 78 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Mr. MITCHELL. I have not the loans so separated, sir. Senator REED. Clause C of the resolution calls for industrial loans. Let us hear about this one. Senator BARKLEY. Of course, this will all be in the record, anyway. Mr. MITCHELL. This loan to Solvay et Cie. was made October 4, 1920. The issue was $10,000,000. Senator SHORTRIDGE. What was that corporation? Mr. MITCHELL. A chemical corporation in Belgium. The loan was $10,000,000. The rate was 8 per cent. It matured in 1927. It was called, however, in 1924 at 104, though issued at 100. The issue was bought by us at 94, giving a total of 6 points spread. We had six houses with us on original terms, and they took a spread of 1% per cent. There was no intermediate group. Our banking group consisted of 44. Their spread was 1 y2 per cent. A selling group was formed of 123 houses. Their spread was 3 per cent . The National City Co. had a participation on original terms of $2,000,000; in the banking group a participation of $2,475,000; in the selling group a participation of $2,304,500. After deductions for expenses we had a profit in this deal of $100,869.50; and we ourselves made retail sales of that issue to 503 separate investors. The next is Kingdom of Denmark, which we issued in October, 1920. The issue was one of $25,000,000, and carried 8 per cent coupons, due in 1945. The issue was offered at par? but was called in 1925. I can not give you the call rate on that without referring to my papers. I can do that quite promptly, if I may. Senator REED. Mr. Mitchell, when you say " the issued was called," you mean, of course, that it was called, paid, and extinguished? Is that right? Mr. MITCHELL. That is right, sir. Senator CONNALLY. Mr. Chairman, it is not important as to whether they paid 104 or 105. It has been paid. Why should we kill a lot of time over that? Mr. MITCHELL. It has been paid. I can not tell you the call price on it, but it was probably at a premium. That issue cost us 95. In other words, there was a 5-point spread. There were three houses associated with us on original terms. There was a 1 per cent spread on original terms. Thirty-four houses were associated with us in the banking group. The spread there was 1% per cent. Four hundred and seventy-two houses participated in the selling group, and the spread was 2y2 per cent. The National City Co. participated on original terms to the amount of $16;188,000. It participated in the banking group to the extent of $12,000,000. It participated in the selling group to the extent of $5,858,000. The total profit to it on this transaction, after deducting discounts and general expenses, was $416,000. Senator REED. How much were the expenses? Mr. MITCHELL. The expenses were $35,000. 79 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES The CHAIRMAN. Let me .say to the members of the committee that all of this is going to be printed in the record. Do you think it is necessary to have all of these items read here? You "have a sample of them now. Why not let us put the details in the record, and have the matter complete? We will have to refer to it anyhow if we ever want to make a statement; and, if there is no objection on the part of the members of the committee, I ask that that be printed in the record without further reading. It will be done, Mr. Mitchell. You may proceed now with the next matter. Senator JOHNSON. IN any of those sales were there any losses? Mr. MITCHELL. I)O you mean any of these syndicates—any of these particular issues? Senator JOHNSON. Yes, sir. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Suffered by whom? The CHAIRMAN. The syndicates.* Mr. MITCHELL. Not in this particular list. I see two issues where others were managers where there was a loss. Senator JOHNSON. Some other institution made some loss? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes; they doubtless made a loss. Other institutions would have made a loss there if we did, without question. Senator SHORTRIDGE. The purchasers of the bonds have made some loss; have they? Mr. MITCHELL. Just as the purchasers of American bonds have made some loss; yes, sir. Senator JOHNSON. YOU have spoken of two institutions, Mr. Mitchell, and I am not familiar with them. You say "the National City Bank " and " the National Co."? Is that right? M R . MITCHELL. The National City Co. Senator JOHNSON. Are they affiliated institutions? Mr. MITCHELL. The stock of the National City Co. is owned by trustees who hold it for the beneficial interest of holders of the shares of the National City Bank of New York. Senator HEED. And the transfer of the stock of the bank carries with it a proportionate interest in the trust? Air. MITCHELL. Quite so. Senator JOHNSON. We may say they are affiliated, at least, then? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s , sir. Senator SHORTRIDGE. But separate corporations? Mr. MITCHELL. Separate corporations; yes, sir. Senator GORE. Mr. Chairman, in connection with the question I asked about the amount of foreign bonds held by the National City Bank, I should like to get in the record at this point the statement that I think this entire investigation grew out of a popular belief in this country* or a suspicion, if you please to call it so, that a group of New York banks commonly referred to as the international bankers have to-day large holdings of foreign-government securities, and that they are fostering an agitation to cut down, cancel, or reduce the debts owing by the foreign governments to this Government in order to enhance the value of their holdings. I think that is why this investigation is being held; and, so far as I am concerned, I want to>put> in the record an expression of my regret that the committee "willriotbe able to advise the Senate or the country as to whether or not that is true. I do not think anything is 80 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES more unfortunate than to have a belief or suspicion of that sort pervading the public opinion of the country if it is not true, particularly if it is contrary to the facts. The CHAIRMAN. Up to the present time, of course, nothing has, been presented here that would show that that is true. Senator GORE. That is true; and I think it is equally important to the banks and to the country to have the truth known about this matter. What I have in mind is this: The information will be available to the committee under Senator lleed's request; but I am not certain that we will be in a position to make use of it, as it comes in confidentially. Senator SEED. Why can we not ask Mr. Mitchell right now whether he is agitating or participating in any agitation for the reduction or cancellation of the intergovernmental debts due to this /Senator KEED. I think that settles it, Senator Gore. Senator GORE. YOU think that settles it? I do not think tliat quite settles it. It might settle it so far as Mr. Mitchell is concerned, I make no allegation that it is true, Senator Keed; but you know that that belief does prevail. It may be entirely unfounded. If it is, I do not think the public ought to be left with any ground on which,to base such a suspicion. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Mr. Mitchell, may I ask this question: Do you regard as confidential the holdings of foreign bonds by American banks and their several amounts? Is that the information which is considered as confidential ? Mr. MITCHELL* It would be confidential; ves; and I think it would probably be unwise to have that become public property. I have no objection to giving this committee as it sits to-day the position of the National City Tiank with regard, let us say, to German Government bonds. I think it would perhaps be unwise to ask all of the banks for their holdings and have that become public property. Senator SHORTRIDGE. I fully agree with Senator Gore that it would be wise to disabuse the public mind as to the holdings of the several banks. Senator JOHNSON. Why would it be unwise, Mr. Mitchell! Mr. MITCHELL. If you would permit me just to make this statement: The holdings of the National City Bank of German Government bonds to-day aggregate $1,556,000, and the holdings of the National City. Co. of German issues of every name, nature, and description aggregate a par . value of $631,000. Senator SHORTRIDGE. That information would not be hurtful to the bank or hurtful to the holders of like bonds; would it.< Mr. MITCHELL. No, indeed; and I am of the opinion that with respect of these large banks whose portfolios are so often talked of lightly and carelessly by the rumor-mongers, perhaps it will not do them any harm to have some of these things known. The amount that is held by large New York banks, for instance, is in no case enough to influence their judgment with respect to cancellation of debts one iota; .nor is the amount that is held by them of such a size as in any way to affect their essential liquidity or their soundness. Senator JOHNSON. Then, what is the objection to telling it ?. 81 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Senator SHORTRIDGE. That is what I want to develop. Why consider it as confidential? Senator GEOKGE. A S an illustration, what are the resources of the National City Bank? Mr. MITCHELL. I think our last statement showed about one billion eight hundred and odd million. Senator GEORGE. And your German holdings are only a million and some? Mr. MITCHELL. That is as stated. Senator CONNALLT. With reference to foreign bonds, you are like the saloon keeper who never drank. His whiskey was made to sell, not to drink. Air. MITCHELL. With respect to bonds generally, we are merchants. Senator CONNALLY. Thnt is what I mean. Mr. MITCHELL. We are merchants. Senator CONNALLY. And the bonds of these foreign countries are to sell, and not to keep? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s , s i r . Senator GORE. And the German Government, of course, owes our Government nothing. Senator JOHNSON. Do I understand, then, that such objection as has been voiced here as to the publicity of the amount of German securities held .by New York banKS you do not concur in? Mr. MITCHELL. Obviously, I have no objection to it from our own standpoint. I should hesitate to speak on the general subject of the properties. I think your committee is quite able to determine that without my assistance. Senator JOHNSON. That is not the point. The point is, it has been suggested here that the matter ought to be kept secret and ought not to be divulged because, I presume, of the effect that it would have upon certain banks. I understood you first to confirm that view, but subsequently I took it that you reached a different conclusion. Mr. MITCHELL. Senator Johnson. I thought that the first question had to do with the making public or the portfolios of banks generally. I think that would be unfortunate. Senator JOHNSON. Why? I mean as to German securities. I am not speaking of anything else. Why would it be unfortunate? Mr. MITCHELL. I was speaking to the question of their entire portfolios. With respect to their German securities, I do not think it would be harmful; and if your committee were to conclude that it would be helpful—which I think is a very real problem for you to determine—then I can not see any objection on the part of the banks, because, in my opinion, they have nothing to hide. Senator JOHNSON. All right. Then I can not understand what the object is of the discussion. Senator BEED. It ought to Be very plain, it seems to me, Senator Johnson, if I may say so. I think this committee ought to see the figuresfirstbefore it decides whether it is going to make them public or not. If it will not do any harm to make them public, then let us make them public. Senator JOHNSON. I do not want to rest upon the statement that the figures can do no harm, and that is the situation we are in now. This gentleman says, and doubtless accurately, from his information, 82 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES thai there is .not anything , the disclosure of which publicly would affect anybody. The CHAIRMAN.-As far as his institution is concerned. Senator JOHNSON. N O ; he says so far as all banks are concerned. If he be correct in. that,-then there is not any use of our pussy footing in respect to the particular proposition as to whether the amounts should be made public or they should be asked concerning them. I want to be just as delicate concerning the banking situation as anybody at this table; but when a gentleman qualified to speak, as Mr. Mitchell is, says there are not any such amounts of securities as would affect any kink at all,tljen we ought to know the facts. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Johnson, Mr. Mitchell has already reported his; so let us go on. Senator GORE. I think the matter of German bonds is least important, because they do not owe us anything. The CHAIRMAN. Then when we'reach- the others^ we can decide. Senator COUZENS. The Senator from Oklahoma is mistaken about Germany not owing us anything. Senator GORE. Oh, $250,000,000 for the army of occupation; yes, and I think we ought to remit that. Senator BARKLEY. I should like to ask Mr. Mitchell, in that connection, whether any banker or any witness coming here can testify as to the portfolio of any bank except his own. M r . MITCHELL. H e c a n n o t . Senator BARKLEY. SO that in order to get that information we would have to bring,all the bankers;in the country here ? Mr. MITCHELL. That is quite truel The CHAIRMAN. Proceed, ,Mr. Mitchell. Mr;MITCHELL. Let me see. Where were we? The CHAIRMAN. You may go on . to another subject, because the one we had is already settled. Mr. MITCHELL. The Senator calls my attention to the fact that we had concluded with the issues of which ;the National City Co. was manager. Senator COUZENS. At that point, let me ask you this question: You were not manager for any of the Italian loans, were you ? Mr. MITCHELL (after a pause). We were not; no. I take this time for thought because there was one industrial issue that I am inclined to think J. P. Morgan & Co. did bring out, and that perhaps was not on Mr. Lamont?s list, and I thought we might be the ones that brought that out; hut it is possible that it was brought out by another company and we participated. Senator COUZENS. You were not the original managers of any British loans? Mr. MITCHELL. N O ; we were not, Senator Couzens. Senator COBZE^S. And you were not the managers of any German loans? Mr. MITCHELL. Not any . German Government loans. Senator ;COUZENS.I That is what I mean. ; So that so far as this committee is concerned, we can understand that Mr. Lamont gave us the testimony with, respect, to the bringing out of the,Italian and British and German loans?, • Mr. MITCHELL.? That is correct. Senator COUZENS. And French loans? 83 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Mr. MITCHELL. SO far as he handled them. Of course, there were many corporate issues. Senator COUZENS. But I mean as to governmental loans; and you were not managers of any French loans? Mr. MITCHELL. We were not managers of any French Government loans. The CHAIRMAN. What else is there to ask this witness? Senator JOHNSON. Have you any short-term credits of Germany? Mr. MITCHELL. In the National City Bank? Senator JOHNSON. Yes. Mr. MITCHELL. Yes. Senator Johnson; we have* Senator JOHNSON. In the past six months, have any of your shortterm credits been paid ? Mr. MITCHELL. Oh, 37es. We are having some payments right along, Senator Johnson. Senator JOHNSON. Do you know the amount of short-term credits that have been paid by Germany in the past six months? Mr. MITCHELL. I can not give you that with any accuracy. Senator JOHNSON. I speak in approximate figures only. I do not expect absolute accuracy. Air. MITCHELL. I am speaking now for the short-term credits that are under the stillhalten agreement. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Government loans? Mr. MITCHELL. NOJ I refer to that group of short-term loans that were put under the stillhalten agreement last August. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Paid by the government ! Senator GEORGE. Are they industrials? Mr. MITCHELL. No; they are not all industrials. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Wnat are they? Mr. MITCHELL. They are bank loans and short loans of varied character maturing within a period of six months; and the agrees ment was for six months, and with respect thereto all nations came into that so-called stillhalten agreement. Senator COUZENS. But none of them were governmental ? M R ; MITCHELL. NO; I think that none of mem were governmental* There are outstanding some of the Gold Discount Bank*s short notes* As of course you know, that is a governmental bank. They- are not the obligation of the Reich directly, however. Senator SHORTRIDGE. That is the point I want. Senator JOHNSON. That is the obligation of the Keichbank, is it not.? Mr. MITCHELL. These particular obligations I speak of are obligations of the Gold Discount Bank. That is different still. Senator JOHNSON. Can you state approximately how much of those short-term credits have been paid in the last six months? Mr. MITCHELL. In America, roughly, I think, Senator Johnson, 15 per cent Senator JOHNSON. Well, what is the outstanding amount of ^the short-term credit?' Oh, just approximately* I do not ask you for accurate figures or do not want to give you the trouble of going through your detail there. Mr. MITCHELL. Well, between $600,000,000 and $700,000,000. Senator J O H N S O N Between $600,000,000 and $700,000,000 ? M r . MITCHELL,Yes* sir. 84 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Senator JOHNSON. HOW much of short-term credits do you hold? Mr. MITCHELL. YOU understand, I had to get up this data very rapidly. Here are the lastfiguresI have, which, incidental^, were as of the 1st of November. Mr. Chairman, here again is data that I have a feeling should be confidential with this committee. The CHAIRMAN. That is, it does not refer to your bank? Mr. MITCHELL. If I understand correctly, the question is asked of me at this moment as to how much our bank has in short-term credits, coming under the stillhalten. Senator SHORTRIDGE. What does that term .mean—"short5' ? Mr. MITCHELL. Those credits are all due within a 6-month period: some of them have become due and been renewed. They are, for the most part, revolving credits. To the extent of, generally, I would say, 80 per cent, they are self-liquidating in character. Senator SHORTRIDGE. I do not know what that means. Senator COUZENS. That means bills that were due. Mr. MITCHELL. I mean this: When a merchant in Germany ships a lot of Christmas bulbs to this country, an X corporation here, the importer, owes him for them, and that is represented in a bill that is drawn for, say, 90 da^s and accepted, and we become. holden to collect; we are the collecting bank as it comes due. Now, when that is paid, the amount comes to us and the account is wiped out. Senator SHORTRIDGE. That is called self-liquidating? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes; that is called a self-liquidating credit. Under the stillhalten agreement, however, there was a provision that where a lender had on September 1 outstanding and in use a line of credit to a borrower in Germany Aggregating, say, $100,000, the borrower should be permitted for the: 0-month period of the stillhalten to use the credit to the extent of that full amount of $100,000, regardless of any payments on account in the interim. If by payments it is reduced, let us say, to $80,000 at any time, the borrower has the right to replace all matured items to the extent of $20,000 during this 6-month period, or even to run an overdraft in such amount, so that he has available to him a credit line throughout of $100,000. Even where covered by bills which are matured and paid during that time, they can be replaced. Do I make myself clear ( Senator SHORTRIDGE. I think I understand you. Senator JOHNSON. Now, I repeat my question, and you may make your statement to the chairman^ if you care to. How much of short-term credits does your banking institution hold; German short-term credits? Senator COUZENS. Mr. Chairman, I understand the witness dofcs' not desire to answer that, and I suggest that we give him the same courtesy that we did to Mr. Lamont, and let him file it with the committee. Mr. MITCHELL. I would be very glad to do that. The CHAIRMAN. Will that be satisfactory, Senator Johnson ? Senator JOHNSON. I A w sorry, Mr. Chairman, I did not hear it* The CHAIRMAN. To extend the same courtesy we extended to Mr. Lamont, to allow him to file it with the committee? Senator SHORTRIDGE. And it remains with the committee to determine hereafter what is to be done with the information. The CHAIRMAN. YOU can do that, can you, Mr. Mitchell? SALE OF FOKKIGX BONOS Oil SECURITIES 85 Mr. MITCHEUL. Yes; I can do IT, and will be glad to do it; or, if you desire me to, Mr. Chairman, I should be willing to make the statement at this time* The CHAIRMAN. I think we had better follow the same course we did with Mr. Lamont* Senator CONNALLY. I do not want to interrupt, Mr. Chairman, but Mr. Lamont said he did not have the information available. I do not want to press it, but why should we not go through with it now and get the information? The CHAIRMAN* It will do if we get it later, will it not, Senator? Senator CONNALLY. Some of the Senators may want to crossexamine Mr. Mitchell about it. I am not interested in it myself, but Senator Johnson may want to cross-examine on it; If we are to have it, why not have it now? Senator SHORTRIDGE. I think they should all be treated alike. Senator CONNALLY. Mr* Lamont did not have the information available* Mr. Mitchell has the information. Senator JOHNSON* I think you have forgotten what Mr. Lamont said. He said his bank did not have any short-term credits. He spoke of another bank, and he said he did not think it should be told concerning that bank. That was his statement ^ Senator SHORIRIDOE. He did not want to speak of the other bank. The CHAIRMAN. I would like to follow the same course as we did with the other witness. Senator JOHNSON. If the chairman would like to let it pass, I do oot lvant to press it. I think it is important. Did you read Mr. Dawes's statement the other day? Mr. MITCHELL. I have read several statements of his. Senator Johnson. Senator JOHNSON, Did you read his statement that GermanV had paid $260,000,000 of short-term credits? IU Mr. MmniEix. I do not remember the statement, but I think that is about correct Senator JOHNSON. YOU think that is about correct? M r ; MITCHELL. Y e s , s i r . Senator JOHNSON. We forgave Germany $ 2 4 6 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 by our moratorium, did we not ? The CHAIRMAN. That was an extension of time. Mr* MITCHELL. You have delayed the payment of it. Senator JOHNSON. Extended the payment of it; and short-term credits that'was held in banks was paid; presumably, in practically the amount we forgave. Mr* MITCHELL. You have raised a question which, I think, it is only fair to me to give me an opportunity to answer to a greater length than by yes or no* Senator JOHNSON. I am very glad to give you the opportunity to answer it, because I want simply the facts and nothing more; and what the facts show, whether one way or the other way, is perfectly satisfactory to me. Mr* MITCHELL. I think that the words " cancellation " and u priority," which your question involves, are extremely unfortunate and misleading* If we were to speak of the foreign debt of the United States being something that should be canceled and were to include in that, all of the debt of individuals and corporations, of every kind 86 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS OB SECURITIES and: description, we would be following-a course, similar to that which we follow when, in - our thinking, we talk about German debts as one global thing. Business differentiates as to the character of credit and the shade of . merit of the borrower with respect to his credit position. For instance, it is just as though ;we were to take the city of Washington and talked about its debt as something that is global- It might be that the city is not paying its debts, but we have corporations, good,< >bad, and indifferent,.that, regardless of what may happen to the city itself are not affected and the best of theni are going to pay their debts. We have, let us say, a little trader down:on Pennsylvania Avenue. It may;be that he has a debt created for goods that he is putting on liis shelf to-day and is going to sell to-jnorrow. That is a commercial debt that is good. It may be he has a little mortgage on his establislmient. That debt may be slow but it is probably good. We can view German debts and business debts in that same way. Commercial debts,- which constitute the bulk of these short-term debts, are mostly incurred in the operation of German economy. Now, . German economy is, if I may use the expression, "the goose that lays the golden e*g." That is what will produce the. profits, that, is what'will produce materials by which other debts of other characters can be paid. How can we talk about priority? "Priority " was introduced in common parlance as a word having to do with transfers, and it is too often now. in our daily conversation, used as a word applicable to the debt itself. I feel that it is a great mistake to view all of these debts as global, or to attempt to treat them as global, or to break them down into classes by some rule of priority. Of course, commercial debts have to go on. We have millions of dollars that good and the obligation is represented by commercial credits and we want them to revolve. We are prepared to extend new credits as the amounts come due, because the debtor is good. The so-called political debts, reparations, if you please, are in a different category. Whether it is desirable or undesirable that the creditor forces the debtor to pay, is something that has to do with the political Or international situation as it may exist from time to time. That is something you gentlemen in Congress must determine, and you will determine it on the basis of what is best for the American people. That is the only yardstick you can use in connection with this matter. This applies to England and France and any other government that owes money to the United States Government. But I have faith that in the ultimate you will do that which will mean a continuation of the healthy economy of the countries of those debtors, and if I am right in that faith, then these short-term commercial debts that are so much the discussion of the day are good, provided the debtor himself is a good risk. Senator JOHNSON. Is not the whole discussion abroad to-day full of priority talk? Mr. MITCHELL. That, too often* is the discussion. If you tell me that the; political debt of Germany must be paid before anything is paid on her commercial debts, I will tell you that you have a closed German economy, and if you have a closed German economy, then 87 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES you have a closed English, a closed French economy, and you have a situatioii iii America that is very nearly closed, if not closed. Senator JOHNSON. NOW I am not going to attack that subject with )'ou at all, but that is exactly the position that France takes, is it not? Mr. MITCHELL. N O W , Senator Johnson, should I be brought into a discussion of that? Senator JOHNSON. N O ; I do not think you should, but you brought yourself in, if you will pardon me. * Mr. MITCHELL. I brought myself into a discussion of this because you have attempted, in your question, to link short commercial credits made to German industry with the question of other reparations payments on which there was a moratorium given, saying that the money Senator JOHNSON (interposing). I have done that solely because Germany and France have done it, and that is the subject of conversation abroad. Let me ask you the question, and you can answer it or not, as you please. Are you in favor either of scaling down the debts that are due us from foreign governments, or in favor of a cancellation direct ? Mr. MITCHELL. That is a question that I am prepared to leave absolutely in the place where it belongs for its settlement, which is the United States Congress. I do not believe in cancellation, as that word is generally used. I believe that those debts should be forced in payment, or should be scaled, as seems best in the minds of Congress,* actuated always by what is best for the American people. Senator SHORTRIDOE. Certainly. Mr. MITCHELL. And I am inclined to believe that here and there, at least, it will be determined that there should be some scaling. Where and how much is a matter I feel I can not say. It will depend 011 circumstances. That is a matter that will need serious consideration of the men who are elected to determine those things. Senator SHORTRIDGE. We scaled down, did we not, over 50 per cent? Now take these little countries. I think we loaned little Latvia, on the Baltic, $5,000,000. Latvia said she would pay. We gave her a long time. Now if we stand, not unkindly, but firmly, relying on the legal obligation, is it not your opinion that Latvia, which represents a high state of civilization,, will pay us? There is no necessity of scaling, or cancellation, or anvthmg of the sort. Mr. MITCHELL. Senator, I am a banker, and t would like to tell you how we figure it. Bankers figure it on the basis of what is best for themselves. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Certainly. Mr. MITCHELL. And very often we take a credit that perhaps we could force the full payment of and adjust it in one way or another, believing that it is in our interest to do so; believing that we will get more out of it by taking some other course than by forcing the full and complete payment of the obligation. And I assume that in the ultimate you are going to do just exactly that with these interallied debts to America* 88 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS OB SECURITIES Senator SHORTRIDGE.' I have ^ never known:, any: bankers to scale down anything that I owed him. But I am on the gold basis, you understand.' Senator HARRISON. May I ask a question? Mr. MITCHELL. Certainly. Senator HARRISON. Is it your opinion that the extension of these large credits to foreign countries has in any way influenced the, contraction'of credit by the American bankers to the American people? M r . MITCHELL. A t no'Stage. I ;think I might enlighten you on that, if I can lay m y hands on some figures. Senator GORE. While he is looking for that may I say that I think Mr. Mitchell is right when he says Germany is the goose that lays the golden egg. The question is, who is going to get the yellow of the egg. That is the point. , Mr. MITCHELL. If I may address: myself to your question, Senator Harrison, the sales of the National City Co.—and I think it is only fair that I take out all those acceptances and other things than securities proper—in 1927y out of a total of $2,068,000,000, the direct security sales that would be applicable to this question were $1,412.000,000. That year we sold all together $356,000,000 of foreign government and foreign corporation securities. Senator HARRISON. What- year was that? ^ Mr. MITCHELL. 1927.i j Now the next year-^-^ *' Senator HARRISON (interposing). I mean up to date* there is some contraction of credit^ a great many people believe, in the country by the American bankers. Have these large outstanding foreign credits influenced that condition in this country? Mr. MITCHELL. We have been going through a period where lack of confidence and fear was controlling. The' public, skeptical of the banking situation as a whole, and fearful perhaps of particular banks, have withdrawn! deposits in volume, and as they have withdrawn those deposits there has been less money for banks to loan* and therefore-there has been a contraction that has incensed the public and made them more fearful. It is one of those vicious circles. Now, so far as the; new security issues during this period are concerned, there have been-practically none. Senator HARRISON; You mean foreign issues? Mr. MITCHELL. Foreign or domestic. Senator BARKLET. Has this contraction been any greater than IT would .have been if the foreign nations did not owe us this money ? Mr. MITCHELL. Only in that the American public, having'bought to the extent that they did of foreign securities, have become to a certain extent internationally minded, and when there is trouble in this or that part of the world they feel it; it attacks their confidence and it plays its part, of course, in the development of this great destructive force that puts fear in the king's seat. The ^CHAIRMAN. That applies to our own country as well as other countries? Sir. MITCHELL. Certainly. It is simply by reason of our people having become to a great extent internationally minded. Senator HARRISON. What is about the approximate amount of foreign credits outstanding; do you know? Mr. MITCHELL. Foreign credits in this country? 89 SAI*E OF FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES Senator HARRISON. Yes. How much American money is invested abroad and how much at home? I have seenfiguresstating as much as $14,000,000,000 or 15.000,000,000. Mr. MITCHELL. Now, you are taking foreign securities that are in this country plus foreign credits plus investments in foreign corporations. I would hesitate to guess at that figure. We know that in securities it amounts to $7,800,000,000. We know that the amount invested by American corporations abroad is about $150,000,000, or it is so estimated. I have that estimate here. The CHAIRMAN. It is more than that. Mr. MITCHELL. $125,000,000. Now, to that you have to add the amount that is invested by banks and financial institutions in the exchanges and in the short-term credits of one sort or another that they hold covered by the stillhalten. Then you have an amount in excess of that that is not covered by the stilllialten, because there are short credits that are maturing beyond the 6-montli period of the stillhalten. The CHAIRMAN. It is understood as between $14,000,000*000 and §15,000,000.000. Senator SHORTRIDOE. That includes what? The CHAIRMAN. Evervthing. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Henry Ford, for instancet is building automobiles in Ireland, is he not? Mr. MITCHELL. I understand that he is. Incidentally I have here, and you would be interested to see the Irish Free State loan, which we managed, and which. I am glad to say, has enjoyed one of the finest positions of credit in this market. Senator SHORTRIDGE. I am glad to hear you say that. Take Ireland, for example, what is her outstanding government debt, if you know? Mr. MITCHELL. It is very small. She hesitated to borrow from England; she preferred to borrow from America. Senator SnoirniiDGE. She is quite right. Mr. MITCHELL. Senator, Mr. Lamont said to-day that which is quite true, that most of these government loans depend upon the good faith of the people of the country that is borrowing the money. There is something more than good faith, however* There is tlie character of the people: their ability to work; their ability to produce; their insistence upon production. It is not only good faith. It is that desirable kind of a people that we find in the German workman* Senator SHORTRIDGE. Well, you find it in other places, too? Mr. MITCHELL. And we find it in many other places. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Have you data showing the amount of Irish bonds that have been disposed of here in America? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes: I have. Senator SHORTRIDGE* I would like to know that. Stenrftor BARKLEY^Well, is Ireland asking for any moratorium? Senator JOHNSON. Yes; she asked England for a moratorium, and was declined. Senator SHORTRIDOE. I am asking that for an interest I have, and do not want to disclose* Senator JOHNSON. Mr. Mitchell, did your institution float the Polish loan? 90 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Mr. MITCHELL. N O , sir; we have never had anything; to do with Poland, ri ' Senator JOHNSON. Could you tell me who.did? Mr. MricHELL. I think it was Dillon,. Reed, & Co. Senator JOHNSON. Could you state the amount of German acceptances that are held in Federal reserve banks, approximately? Senator SHORTRIDGE. D O not lose track of that question of mine. Mr. MITCHELL. I can not; no, Senator Johnson. Senator JOHNSON. Can you give me any idea ? I do not care for ? figures. the accurate Mr. MITCHELL. No; I can't do that. I can do a quick calculation on it, but it would not necessarily be accurate. [After a pause.] No, Senator, I regret that I can not tell you, because the Federal reserve take in these bills, and they are. sold with their guarantee to foreign governments who have deposits with the Federal reserve bank, and what proportion of those bills have actually been sold into the market and got into the hands of the Federal reserve bank as against the portfolios of the commercial banks and then what portion has been sold by them to foreign government accounts is too much of an enigma for me to work out. I regret that I can not given you even roughly the information that you ask. Senator HOWELL. Mr. Mitchell, you started to give us the total, and you have already, but if you* would repeat it—the total of the foreign securities that are held in this country—seven billion eight hundred and some-odd million. Mr. MITCHELL. That is correct, sir., Senator HOWELL. Then you gave us the amount of money invested in foreign corporations by Americans, $ 1 2 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 ? M r . MITCHELL. $ 1 2 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 . Senator HOWELL. $ 1 2 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 . Now, then, you were about to give us approximately the amount of short-time credits. Could you give the total of the short-time credits? Mr. MITCHELL. I can not do that. I know what came in and probably is in the stillhalten agreement. But there are other short credits that did not mature during the 6-month period of the stillhalten, and just how much those are I do not know. Those are figures that will come into the so-called Wiggin report when that committee, which is now sitting in Berlin, has completed its task. Senator HOWELL. Would you give us your opinion as to what the short-term; credits would approximate? Senator COUZENS. Probably a billion dollars. Is that not right? Mr. MITCHELL. I would not think it would be very far from that, Senator Couzens. ; Senator HOWELL. Then,as I see it. we would have about $ 8 , 9 2 5 , 0 0 0 , 000, the sum of those three: items, that represents the foreign investments of Americans; is that correct? , Mr. MITCHELL. Xou still have some itenisj one of which I think of forthwith.. You, *will bear in mind that the Federal reserve bank, for instance, has a credit to the ReichsbankJ. A matter that is public knowledge. . That would not be in my figures! There still might be isome other items that, would throw thefiguresoff somewhat. Senator HOWELL. Another billion? Mr; MITCHELL, >Oh, no ; Ii do not think any such sum; 91 SAI*E OF FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES Senator HOWELL. N O M r . MITCHELL. N O . Senator HOWELL. In such sum ? other words, that would be about something over nine billion ? Senator COUZENS. H O W long are 3*ou going to run, Mr. Chairman? The CHAIRMAN. W E are through now. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Before we adjourn I would like to have my question answered. Mr. MITCHELL. The Irish Free State, Senator, borrowed from us $15,000,000 in December, 1027. Now the larger part of those bonds have been bought back by the Irish people. So that there is owned in this country to-day a small amount. If I were to guess I would say probably not more than two or three million of those bonds are held in America now. Senator SHORTRIDGE. And her credit is good ? Mr. MITCHELL. I beg your pardon ? Senator SHORTRIDGE. ller credit is good ? Mr. MITCHELL. Her credit is very excellent. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Mitchell, can you be here at 10 o'clock in the morning? M r . MITCHELL. I c a n . Senator SMOOT. I wish you would. It may take us a little time, though, before we want you to go on the stand, as I want to bring the moratorium legislation up tomorrow morning. I can not tell you how long that would be, but if it will not inconvenience you we would like to have you here at that time. Mr. MITCHELL. It won't at all, Senator. The CHAIRMAN. The committee will stand adjourned until 10 o'clock to-morrow morning. (Thereupon, at 5.05 p. m. Friday, December 18,1931, an adjournment was taken until 10 o'clock a. m. the next day, Saturday, December 19, 1931.) SALE OP FOREIGN BONDS UNITED OE SECURITIES IN THE STATES S A T U R D A Y , D E C E M B E R 19, 1931 UNITED STATES SENATE, COMMITTEE ON FINANCE, Washington^ D. C. The committee met at 10 o'clock a, m-5 pursuant to adjournment on Friday, December 18, 1931, in the committee room, Capitol, Senator Keed Smoot presiding. Present: Senators Smoot (chairman), Watson, Keed, Shortridge, Couzens, Thomas of Idaho, Harrison, King, George, Barkley, Connally, and Gore. Present also: Senators Johnson and Howell. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Mitchell, we closed last night while you were testifying, and beginning at that point I would like very much now if you would proceed, and we will get through as quickly as we can; TESTIMONY OP CHARLES E. MITCHELL, CHAIRMAN NATIONAL CITY BANK, NEW YORK, N. Y.—Resumed Senator JOHNSON. Mr. Mitchell, have you these statements that were put in the record before you there? tOr do you have them, Mr. Chairman? Mr. MITCHELL. Senator Smoot took these last night. Senator Johnson, and he has just handed them back to me. Last night by telephone I asked that these statements be completed, because they do not include the Canadian and Cuban issues, which we did not class in the foreign list, and I judged from the discussion of the committee yesterday that they would prefer to have these submitted by countries rather than chronologically. If that is desired, I can have these reshaped, and Canada and Cuba added, and have them back here in the committee's hands bv Monday morning. The CHAIRMAN. I think that wTould be the proper thing and the best way to do, and then we can have them printed as an appendix to the report so that they will all be together. Senator JOHNSON. Yes. The only reason I was speaking of them, Mr. Chairman, was that I was going to take the lists before me and indulge in some examination or cross-examination concerning them. Now, I will await the convenience of Mr. Mitchell, or as the chairman may wish ill that regard. The CHAIRMAN. If you are going to do it, I would like to have you do it now. Senator JOHNSON. Yes* Let me have the papers then. 02928—31—PT 1-—-7 93 94 SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES Mr. MITCHELL. These are the issues in which we were manager, Senator Johnson [handing a sheet to Senator Johnson], and these are the issues in which we were participants [handing another sheet to Senator Johnson]. Senator JOHNSON. All right, sir. Have you the total, Mr. Mitchell,; of ;the (amount ,of profit or remuneration that you received;m regard'to these1 various loans? I do not. mean as to specific items, but a general total? Mr. MITCHELL. I think that the totals are drawn off here, sir. Senator JOHNSON. Net profit? Follow me on this, if you will, please. Mr. MITCHELL. Maybe I can help you to clarify this whole thing in another way, Senator [referring to a third sheet]. There are all the German issues, South American issues, and all others simplified. Would that help you? Senator JOHNSON. Well, first I am reaching now the total net profit of the issues for which you were the agent embraced in these two pages that you have just given me, being the first of the stater ments that have been handed to the chairman by you. I see a total there of $13,392,502.21. Is that correct? Mr. MITCHELL. That is correct, sir. Senator JOHNSON. That was the net profit on those particular issues that are thus tabulated by you? Mr. MITCHELL. That is correct ; yes, sir. And represents the profit. Senator GEORGE. That is, in which the National City Co. was manager; is that correct ? Mr. MITCHELL. That is true. Senator COUZENS. That does not include the overhead expense? Mr. MITCHELL. That does not include the overhead expense. Senator JOHNSON. Well, it deducts the general, expense here, does it not? Mr. MITCHELL. I explained to the committee yesterday, Senator Johnson, that that was the general expense incident to these particular issues that could be charged to these particular issues. Senator JOHNSON. Exactly. Mr. MITCHELL. It does not cover our expense of Senator JOHNSON. Doing business? Mr. MITCHELL (continuing). Our expense of doing business. Senator JOHNSON. I realize that. But you have here an item of general expense, $2,378,398.68. Mr. MITCHELL. That is the item that is specifically charged against these items, and is not an item that enters into our general expense that I gave you yesterday, that is, the City Co.'s expense of op: eration. Senator JOHNSON. And the item of net profits, $ 1 3 , 3 9 2 , 0 0 0 , is, as its name indicates, net profits after the deduction of that expense, $2,378,000? . ; Mr. MITCHELL. It is * the profit as best we can figure it on these particular issues, but does not cover our general expenses of operating our business, nor any of our sales expenses. Senator JOHNSON. All right, sir. . . The CHAIRMAN. Those amounts1 should be deducted from the $13,000,000? 95 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Mr. MITCHELL. Well, we can not definitely allocate. The C H A I R M A N . Well perhaps you can not definitely allocate, but what I wanted to know was: Does that cover all your expense in every form ? Mr. MITCHELL. N O : it does not. The C H A I R M A N . That is what I wanted to know. Mr. MITCHELL. N O ; it does not. Senator JOHNSON. Well, you do a great deal more business than merely the representation of these particular issues, do you not? Mr. MITCHELL. Quite so. Senator JOHNSON. Why. of course. The C H A I R M A N . If they did not, Senator, there would not be any credit there at all, because of the fact that the expenses are more than that. Senator JOHNSON. I realize that. But I thought it was perfectly plain. Let us have no mistake about it. Here is a statement that shows certain expenses connected with certain bond issues or issues of securities, and which shows certain net profits in connection with these security issues. Now the expenses are stated here in relation to each, and the total amount of expenses thus stated is deducted from the gross profits, and the net profits are as stated in this particular statement. Mr. MITCHELL. May I amplify it to this extent, Senator? The expenses that we show here as general expenses are such expenses as counsel expense on these particular issues. Expenses of telegrams and cables that go out not only as the issue is originated, but go out as the issue is distributed to various syndicates and groups. It would cover the expenses of particular negotiators that were sent out on any particular issue. Their traveling expenses. And study by the experts in connection with any particular issue. They are the expenses, in other words, that apply only to that particular issue. And in that item of general expenses is not, for instance, any part of the expense of the organization for my employment, for instance, for tlie employment of those officers who are overseeing this business, or for the expenses of our clerical organization. Senator GEORGE. Nor taxes? Mr. M I T C H E L L . Nor for the expenses of our rents nor taxes nor the salaries of our sales organizations. Senator COUZENS. Just as vou said, that run anywhere from $6,000,000 to $10,000,000? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s , s i r . Senator GEORGE. In other words, that general item there goes into your general profit and loss account to be further affected by all of your Business? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s . Senator GEORGE. General business? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s . The C H A I R M A N : Just the same as with the interest on a note. Senator J O H N S O N . Why, no; not the same as with <the interest on a note, because you do not charge up to the interest on a note the expenses of maintaining a^ business. > , ,:/ The C H A I R M A N . Well; the interest that is collected there is all credited to the profits, and expense attached to that and all ^the other incidetnal expenses of the bank are charged against ; that, as 96 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS OB SECURITIES against the profits. What I want to do. Senator, is to find out definitely whether the $13,000,000 here was clear profit or not. That is all I wanted to develop. Now it is clear profit as far as the expense connected with the certain work required to place this amount of loans here in the different parts of the country, or to sell it to the different institutions. But what I wanted to find out was this: Was the rent account, the taxes, the expenses of the president, the expenses of the clerks included in that amount, or its proportion? Senator COUZENS. The witness testified to that. Senator HARRISON. It is all very clear. Senator GEORGE. He went oyer that fully yesterday. Senator JOHNSON. Take this specific item, Lautaro Nitrate Co. (Ltd.). Do you recall that? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes, Senator. Senator JOHNSON. On that particular item I observe the expenses were $181,541.16. Have you it before you, or do you wish this statement? Mr. MITCHELL. NO; I do not care for that. But I would like to refresh my mind on the issues. If you give me the date, I can refer to it here. Senator JOHNSON. June 18, 1929. Senator COUZENS. $32,000,000. J' Mr. MITCHELL. I have the record. Senator JOHNSON. All right, sir. Turn if you will to the item, " Expense, $181,541.16." S i r . MITCHELL. Y e s , s i r . Senator JOHNSON. Your net M r , MITCHELL. Y e s . Senator JOHNSON. Yes; sir. profit is stated to be $809,485? Can you tell me what that issue was originally taken for and what subsequently it was sold for? Mr. MITCHELL. The cost price of that, issue was 9 3 % . The offering price was 99. On original terms there were three associates. The spread for that group was 1 per cent. The City Co. participated to the extent of $21,600,000 in the issue. There was an intermediate group consisting of five dealers, with a spread of 1 per cent. The City Co. participation in that group was $26,000,000. There was a banking group of 7 6 dealers? having a spread of three-fourths of 1 per cent. The participation of the City Co. was $18,357,000. There was a selling group of 4 8 8 dealers. The spread to that group was 2% points. The City Co. participated to the extent of $24,684,000. The sales made by the City Co. numbered 5,032. These sales are all retail sales. There "were $1,000,000 of the bonds sold in Europe. Do you wish me to go on to give the purposes of the loan, or anything of that sort, Senator Johnson? Senator JOHNSON. Well, not for the moment, unless you wish to. Mr. MITCHELL. NO. I merely wish to satisfy your inquiries. Senator JOHNSON. First, the profit of your institution was $809,485. That is net? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s , sir. Senator JOE^NSON. The expense, $181,000. That is practically $1,000,000 gross. I will take round numbers. It is $990,000, but practically $1,000,000 gross profit 97 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Mr* MITCHELL. Yes. The gross profit before the- discount that came off was $1,059,000. There was $68,000 discount. Senator JOHNSON. That was the profit alone of your particular establishment? M N MITCHELL. Y e s , s i r . Senator JOHNSON. How man}* others were interested and profited by that transaction ? Mr. MITCHELL. I thought I had made that clear. I can not tell from this record how much duplication, but there were 488 dealers. There were 76 in the bank group, 5 in the intermediate group, and 3 on original terms. There are some duplications in those items. Senator JOHNSON. Did the three that were on the original terms make a profit commensurate with yours? Mr. MITCHELL. They made a 1 per cent spread 011 the amount in w hich they participated. Senator JOHNSON. Pardon me. That was not what I asked. •What I asked was, Did they make a profit commensurate with your profit? Senator COUZENS. May I suggest, Mr. Mitchell, that it was in relation to the volume, was it not J Mr. MITCHELL. Entirely to the volume. Senator COUZENS. If they took half as many 1 bonds as you have, why, they probably would make half as much profit. Sir. MITCHELL. \Vell^ the larger profit here came through our Selling organization. I11 other;words; we had a jrross profit here in the selling of these at retail through our organization of $466,000. Now, of course, to obtain that selling profit we 'had to have all o f the expense of our own selling staff, our officers, our telegraph wires, our overheads everywhere, our traveling expenses, and so forth. So, while that appears as $466,000 as our profit in selling, out of that has to come our entire so-called overhead. Regular expenses. Which would include taxes and every conceivable kind of ex]?ense. Senator JOHNSON. All right. Now, what I am driving at is: I want to find out what was the gross profit of the whole transaction to everybody. Mr. MITCHELL. The gross profit to everybody would be the difference between the cast price of 93% and 99, less the expenses directly chargeable, and the discounts that they jret. Senator JOHNSON. Can you state approximately the gross profit to all of the houses concerned in that particular issue? Mr. MITCHELL. I can figure it, Senator. Senator COUZENS. Mr. Mitchell, would it not roughly be 5 per cent on $32,000,000? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes, roughly. Senator COUZENS. About $1,500,000. Mr. MITCHELL. It is 5y4 per cent on $32,000,000. S e n a t o r COUZENS. Y e s . Mr. MITCHELL. That is the gross. I am just multiplying it out here for the benefit of the Senator. Total, $1,679,000. Senator JOHNSON. That was the gross profit accruing to everybody? Mr. MITCHELL. Accruing to everybody before any expenses of any name or nature had been deducted. 98 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Senator JOHNSON; Yes. Was your profit larger, than that of any of your associates ? Mr: MITCHELL. It was larger than any of :our associates, for two reasons. One, the risk that we accepted in these intermediate syndicates, and because we sold through our organization by all odds the largest portion of the bonds. Senator JOHNSON. Well, what are the expenses of $ 1 8 1 , 0 0 0 going to ? You rather minimize them in what you say. Mr. MITCHELL. Senator,. I do not mean to minimize anything. And expenses of lawyers I have never been able to minimize. . Senator JOHNSON. WellJ you are-very fortunate. Few of them can collect their accounts these days. Mr. MITCHELL. Lawyers' expenses, study of the operations on the ground, telegrams Senator COUZENS. Negotiators? Mr. MITCHELL. Negotiators. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Lawyers are generally underpaid, are they not? Mr. MITCHELL. They usually say so. Senator JOHNSON. By the way, where is the Lautaro Nitrate Co., Ltd., located? Mr. MITCHELL. That was incorporated under the English Companies Acts. Senator JOHNSON. Well, it was a British corporation? Mr. MITCHELL. It was a British corporation. But it had to do with—— Senator COUZENS. Where are its physical operations? Mr. MITCHELL. In Chile. It has to do with nitrate. Senator SHORTRIDGE. They produce products which come into competition with American-produced products? Doesn't that company produce products vhich come into competition with Americanproduced products? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes; it produces nitrates which are sent the world over. It is the largest producer of natural nitrates in the world. And Chilean nitrate has been standard the world over for Senator SHORTRIDGE. Yes; I know that. It has" been imported into our country extensively. Mr. MITCHELL. Yes ; it has been imported into our country extensively. M. Senator KING. Used by the farmers. Senator HARRISON. Mr. Mitchell, do you have a loan, that was made to the American I. G.1; M r . MITCHELL. Y e s . Senator HARRISON. The American' I . G; is a subsidiary of the German I. G., is it not? Mr. MITCHELL. The control of the stock of the American I. G. in the hands of the I. G. Farbenindustrie of Germany. Senator HARRISON. And how much was loaned on this list to the American I. G.? ; i Mr. MITCHELL. I will have to look, that up. Senator HARRISON. Well, was that money used in this country j or was it used in Germany? ' . ; b Mr. MITCHELL. It is used quite completely in this country. They started to use it for the building of plants in this country. It is 99 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES used in part in two or three properties operating in this country. In addition they have a very liquid position. Before that company really got into operation with respect to this country the depr^sion started, and their liquid position has been very largely maintained as the result thereof. Senator HARRISON. But you do loan money to the German I . G. also? Mr. MITCHELL. If I remember, we have never floated any loan for the I. G. Farben. It is a company that we have relations" with and have had over a long period or years. Senator COUZENS. Well, why would they, the American I . G . , appear on this list? They are not a foreign company. Mr. MITCHELL. They would not appear on this list. Senator COUZENS. NO. Mr. MITCHELL. YOU are guite right. Senator HARRISON. I understood you to say that they did appear on this list. M r . MITCHELL. NO. Senator COUZENS. NO Senator HARRISON. I ; he said he was mistaken. was under the impjfession that this money was loaned to the American I. G., but perhaps used by the German I. G. in the making of products, as suggested by Senator Shortridge, and sold in competition with the American-manufactured products. Mr. MITCHELL. Senator, they may have at the present time—I can not say with positiveness—they may have money loaned in one way or another to I, G. Farbenindustrie of Germany subsidiaries or "direct. As I said, they are in a substantial cash position, and ihey are lending their money where they can obtain substantial rates 011 it. Senator HARRISON. Well, are you in a position to have knowledge of that fact, if money was loaned to the American I. G., say, and then the American I. G. loaned it to the German I. G.? If that was done, would you know about it? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes, sir; I would, because I happen to be a director of the American I. G. But it is not a particularly active company. It is a holding company. It holds the securities of two or three chemical and allied industries in America in which the I. G. is interested. Their reports are quite complete, and I would be glad to furnish you with a copy of their latest statement, if you desire to see it. Senator HARRISON. Well, now, carrying out that idea—money loaned to Germany. Have you any knowledge of Germany within the last two years loaning to Russia some $400,000,000? Mr. MITCHELL. Well, I do not personally have any direct knowledge of specific loans, but it is common understanding that the Germans have made advances to Russians. Senator HARRISON. And in all probability that was done on the credit that they received in America ? Mr. MITCHELL. Well, it is very difficult to trace the credits." «; Senator HARRISON. Yes; but it had its influence, of course ? 4 ' Mr. MITCHELL. Undoubtedly had some influence; Though the amount that they have loaned I am of the impression is not large m the light of the whole economy of Germany. 100 SALE OF, FOREIGN .BONDS. OR SECURITIES Senator HARRISON. I understood^ was $400,000,000. I thought perhaps you could, pnswer that. Mr!. MITCHELL. J can not .answer that. Senator HOWELL. I understood they were private loans. Senator HARRISON; Well, I do not know. I have seen something about it in the papers. Senator HOWELL. I understood they were private loans. Senator KING. Would you have any knowledge, Mr. Mitchell, whether or not German industrialists had made loans to Russia with the view of securing trade in Russia? Mr.; MITCHELL J think, Senator, that they have made the same character of loan, if you wish to call it that, that has been made by so many of the American companies. They sold goods with some advance payment and accepted deferred jpayments for .the balance. It is the common practice not only of German companies but of many American companies as well. Senator KING. D O you think that any of the loans which may have been made to private corporations in Germany, if any have been made through your bank, or by Americans, in turn were loaned to Russia by the German industrialists ? , Mr. MITCHELL. That is a very difficult question for me to answer. I would concede the possibility, in this way. Just as the General 'Electric Co. in the United; States has sold to .Russia on terms of part qash and-part deferred payments, so the Allegemeine Elk.tricitat (Jesellschaft, which is the General Electric Co. of Geripany, generally known as the A. E. G., which we have financed to some jextenjtj has made similar arrangements in Russia. Now, I can not say that none of the money that we have loaned to the A. E. G. has not found its way thus in one way or another into those smaller credits to Russia; It may have. ' The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Mitchell, was there anything else that you .desired to submit to the committee? Mr. MITCHELL. Nothing at all. I am completely at the pleasure of the committee. . .Senator GEORGE. Mr. Mitchell, you did not take up the second list .there yesterday. Did you cover that? The CHAIRMAN. I think he covered that. Mr. MITCHELL. The second list being the list in which we participated ? Senator GEORGE. Yes. Mr. MITCHELL: NO. I submitted it with the other list, that is all. ;Senator GEORGE. The second list is the list in which the National City Bank participated ? Mr. MITCHELL. NO, sir; the National Citv Co. Senator GEORGE. The National City Co.? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes. In which the National City Co. participated where others than the National City Co. were the managers. Senator GEORGE. I see. Mr. MITCHELL. For instance, *you will find in that list, I think, practically all of the loans mentioned by Mr. Lamont yesterday. It will show exactly pur interest in those particular loans. I ^ ^ submit it or not as the committee elects. The CHAIRMAN. Well, those were all shown in the companies submitted by Mr. Lamont yesterday. 101 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES M r . MITCHELL. Y e s . The CnAnoiAN. That is, your interests in them were all shown in his report? Mr. MITCHELL. NO; they are not shown in his report, Senator Smoot. He did not show in his report what the interest of any other banking house was. This shows completely what our interest was in each one of the Morgan issues, for instance. And what our interest was in other issues that were managed by others. The CHAIRMAN. In other words, you are showing all of your transactions in detail? Mr, MITCHELL. Quite so. Senator BARKLEY, Mr. Mitchell, has there been any default on the part of either the nations who owe money to your institution or other banking institutions, or to the industries, or others that you know of, during the last year? Mr. MITCHELL. Are vou speaking of the Germans ? Senator BARKLEY. tfo; 1 am speaking of all of the debtor nations. But I will, for the moment, limit it to Germany. Mr. MITCHELL. A S to Germany no default. Senator BARKLEY. In other words, they have kept up their payments on all these private loans? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s . Senator BARKLEY. T O what extent has there been any default— I do not mean by default the mutual arrangements to renew an obligation, like most of us have to do these days, outside of you gentlemen in New York Mr. MITCHELL. We ask 110 exception. Senator BARKLEY. Whether there has been any default, as we understand that term, 011 the part of either the industries or the Government of Europe that owe the United States money, and to -whom this moratorium will apply? Mr. MITCHELL. NOW you are speaking of Europe? Senator BARKLEY. Yes, sir. Mr. MITCHELL. We have had no defaults from Europe. Senator BARKLEY. YOU speak of " we " Do you mean your institution, or do you mean generally the banking institutions of this country? Mr. MITCHELL. Well. I am speaking of our institution. Whether there havq been defaults on some issues with which I am not familiar—some of these municipal or other issues—I can not say, Senator, but with respect to our own experience, no defaults. Senator BARKLEY. This moratorium is supposed to apply for only one year and it expires on the 30tli of next June, at which time the status quo will be resumed unless some further action is taken, except that this period of payment is to be spread out over ten years and paid with the payments under the annual contracts. Are you able to say, or are you willing to express an opinion' whether the nations of Europe will be able to pick up and go on at that point without further extensions from us? Or will we be faced with the same conditions at the end of next June that we were last June and are now? Mr. MITCHELL. O F course, I could have but an impression at best, Senator, and my impression would be that this is a matter upon which you, very likely, may conclude it wise, in the interest of 102 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS OB SECURITIES America, to make some further extensions or adjustment; but, as I tried to make clear yesterday, it is not the kind of thing regarding which I would care to express an opinion without the careful study that you gentlemen are bound to give it. Senator BARKLEY. Of course, the rapidity and the shortness of the space of time in which the status quo might be resumed under the debt arrangements will depend largely on the situation in the future, economically, in this country and the countries of Europe. Mr. MITCHELL. Of course, I think we have plenty of signs before us as to the trend. Senator JOHNSON. If you will permit me, Mr. Chairman, I will run very hastily over these matters. Senator GORE. Senator Johnson, if you will permit me to ask one question. Will you indicate your idea of the trend, if yoU do not object? Mr. MITCHELL. The trend is not good, Senator Gore, or so it seems to me. We have had no political or economic happenings in the last few months in Europe that have been particularly encouraging. Senator BARKLEY. In other words, it would be a miracle if within the next six months there would be a sudden change^ in the trend which would lead us to hope that at the end of that time we might not have to do this same thing over? Mr. MITCHELL. I think I will agree with that. Senator KING. Are you through, Senator? Senator BARKLEY. Yes. Senator KING. Mr. Mitchell, have you been sufficiently in touch with the loans that have been made and the credits extended to know whether they are applied for the benefit of the State—I am speaking of Germany—or whether some of those loans were used in their military operations in strengthening the army of 100,000 soldiers, or arming them, or building 10,000-ton battleships, or any other naval craft? Mr. MITCHELL. With respect to the issues that we have made, we have;been meticulous in analysis prior to the issue that those issues were for productive purposes. And for your information, so long as Mr. Parker Gilbert was in Berlin, a man who held to the principle that America should not loan except for productive purposes, to the best of my knowledge and belief we never proceeded with an issue until we had informally talked with Mr. Parker Gilbert, if lie was available. Furthermore, as you doubtless know, Doctor Schact has beenJ#as a German, an exponent of Germany accepting loans from foreign countries only as that money was used for productive purposes. And so far as it was possible for us to do, we submitted to Doctor Schact the proposed business and acted only as we had his favorable opinion. Now as we made these loans, we demanded regular reports from these companies. We have men in Germany who are in touch with officials ^ox these companies, and I think I can say* without fear of contradictionj th«& the-moneys that we have given to German industries and have been covered by our loans to v a r i o u s entities, have been used for the purposes set forth in our prospectus. 1 Senator KiNG. ^Iaye you any; information as to the disposition ^jiich wpuldJfe made of the several hundred million dollars which 103 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES would be paid if there were no moratorium; the disposition which would be made of that by Germany? That is to say. if Germany has a moratorium under \vhich she is freed from the payment for one year of her obligations under the reparations, have you any; information as to the use which Germany would make, assuming she has the money, of that money which would not go in reparations? Mr. MITCHELL. I have no positive information on that, SenatorSenator K I N G . Has Germany made any indication as to whether or not she desires to use any of that money, if she has a moratorium and if she has the money—has she indicated for what purpose she wants to use it? Mr. MITCHELL. Not so far as I know. Senator K I N G . Did France make any indication with respect to the utilization of the money if the moratorium were granted ? That is, use by Germany? Mr. MITCHELL. I am not in touch with the French Government. Senator K I N O . Then, so far as you know, it is no purpose of the German Government to be freed from the payment- of the $400,000,000 or $500,000,000 to use that for military purposes? Mr. MITCHELL. I have no knowledge of that at all. Senator. Senator K I N O . Have you any information—and I concede that it would be only a guess or prophecy—as to the effect of granting the moratorium;*that is to say, do you think it will encourage Germany to lisk a further moratorium? Will she in the future regard this as a breakdown of the wall, so that at the end of the year she will ask for a further breaking down of the wail? Mr. MITCHELL. I do not know, of course, Senator. Senator K I N G . No. Mr. MITCHELL. But I think we should all recognize that possibly there was set up by the original Dawes Commission a principle that since has been violated by all nations, ^ principle that appealed to me then, and still appeals to me, to be a sound one. to wit, that debts created as a result of the war should be established in such airtount as can be paid by that nation operating under all of the: burdens that their creditors may be operating under during the life of that generation that had to do with the wdr. Now the Dawes Commission established that in the most direct way that they were permitted to, it seeiiis to me, under the limitations that were upon them, by setting up 35 years as the term of payment for the railway, and industrial debentures which secured the first Dawes loan. Now that 85-year period became 62 years when the English came' hererand with their laudable' prid^ said to; America • " We owe so much, and England always pays her debts and to pay this it will take us 62 years." Therefore, 62 years became the general yardstick, instead of 35 years, if you please,'by which we measure the capacity to pay and the ability to transfer of these various nations. 1 may seem to be going a long way around, but I am stating this in order to come back to your question directly, because my mind operates from these basic facts. Here we have m Germany to-day young men going into the universities of Germany Who were*not born%vhen the great war started. Those young men see that not only must they pay but their progeny, and the progeny of their progeny must pay and go on for these generations in paying a debt for which they, as individuals, were not responsible* They feel: that they are under a: 104 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS OB SECURITIES heavy yoke, and my impression is that there is growing, as a result thereof, rebellion against the payment of the debt. I think it is something that is readily understandable, and if you ask me if it is my opinion that Germany will go through this entire period and pay off the amount of debt that has been set up under these various plans for her to pay, I can not conceive it to be possible, because I think that it will bring rebellion. Senator KING. Then this moratorium is permitting the camel to put its nose under the tent, and it will force itself into the tent, and it will result in a further demand for the complete extinguishment of the obligation; is that your philosophy? Mr. MITCHELL. I would not go so far as to say that, but all of this leads me to the conclusion that nationally the countries involved in this question have found a problem that is political and psychological and that they must so consider and handle it. I do not believe that it can be taken quite on the simple base that the debt was contracted, and the debt must be paid. Senator SEED. May I ask you at that point, Mr. Mitchell. Were you through, Senator King? Senator KING. Just A moment, please, Senator Reed. I was about to observe, Mr. Mitchell, that some—and I am not sure that I am not in - that, category-r-would be willing to help Germany and vote for this, moratorium Jibuti if itis merely, to be a foundation upon which Germany will build a psychology or another mentality that will demand the extinction of the debt in the future, then some of us would hesitate to vote for this moratorium itself. Mr. MITCHELL. I am not preaching Senator, in what I am saying, any doctrine of cancellation. I want that to be clear, I am trying to develop a thought as to the psychology of the people that may have a direct bearing upon this question. Senator WATSON. Would not that apply to every other nation that owes us debts? Would it not apply to France and England -who .owe this debt and who are to pay during the 62 years, quite as much as to Germany?; Mr. MITCHELL. Yes; I would say so. Senator WATSON. It has been currently stated that Germany has not directly taxed herself to raise reparations but has borrowed all the money to pay, and mostly in this country. How true is that? Mr; MITCHELL. Germany has been under a severe tax—German individuals and industry. I think a study will show that all of those taxes, in return, have not been sufficient to build up and keep healthy her economy and at the same time pay these reparations. That would seem to be an obvious fact Senator WATSON. HOW much has she borrowed to pay reparations; have you any way of telling? Mr. MITCHELL, i do not carry thatfigurein mind. Senator BARKLEY. I understand that outside of the two Dawes and Young loans, they have not borrowed any money. Senator GORE. I would like to ask Mr. Mitchell, if I may be permitted, whether a distinction does not exist as between the two characters of obligations; The reparations now being paid by Germany are in the nature of afinefor an alleged war guilt; they are punitive payments. The allied debts owing to the United States are for money had and received find represent value that passed 105 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES from this country to those countries. Does not that distinction exist both in law and in morals? Mr. MITCHELL. I should say that it did. Senator Gore. At the same time. I think if reparations were not received by those allied countries who owe us, that we would have developed the same character of thought and argument, to wit. that these interallied debts are debts which, in reality, resulted from the war. Senator GORE. That is just the point. There is 110 legal and moral identity between the two. but in a practical way I get your point, that others, and France at least, makes a very definite act, her act ratifying the Mellon agreement, and made statements to the effect that she would not pay her debts owing to the United States unless she collected the deots owing her from Germany. I am inclined to agree with you that there is nothing more fatuous than the thought that these governments will be paying 50 years from now. I think that is fatuous, and a dream. Senator COUZENS. Why not let the witness testify? Senator GORE. I am sony. I apologize Senator REED. In the first place, Mr. Mitchell, the Dawes plan was 25 years ? Was it not, 1049 ? A 25-year term ? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes; I think so. My recollection is that. But my recollection is distinctly that the railway debentures and the industrial debentures that were built up by the Dawes Commission to secure any loan that might be made, were 35 years in term. The 25-year term was not one, if I recall, that was established by the Dawes Commission. Senator REED. The Dawes plan was made, however, for 25 years, and secured by these debentures, and the German liability was fixed at that time as 25 years, and not 35. That is the question. Mr. MITCHELL. Yes. But I am trying to get at what I regard as an attempt upon the part of the Dawes Commission, which made a very exhaustive study of this situation, to set up a principle which they were not permitted, by virtue of the limitations which were upon them, to set forth in words, but I have always, myself, considered that they did set that principle forthwith by the term of the railway and industrial debentures which were developed to secure the reparations payments of Germany. Senator REED. Yes. All right Now yoh say that there is growing up in Germany a psychology on tlie part of the younger people which leads them to want to accept all of the benefits created by preceding generations, without any of the obligations. That is understandable. Young people enjoy getting benefits and do not enjoy bearing burdens. But is it not reasonable to think that the same psychology will grow up over here that very large war debts were created, and that this money is going to be paid by a generation of Americans that had nothing to do with this war ? Now, why should the progeny of Americans who had nothing to do with the war, the progency of Americans who were not even alive, pay this war debt, and the progeny of the people who started it go scot free i I confess I can not see that, Mr. Mitchell. Mr. MITCHELL. I grant writh you, Senator Reed, that that is quite unanswerable as an argument within- itself. ^' Senator REED. Then why is not the psychology that fe jgoingi to* grow up in this country by refusing to cancel? these debts going to 106 SAI*E OF FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES a complete checkmate to the psychology abroad that wants to have these debts forgiven? Mr. MITCHELL. It is an impasse that will retard the time of world recovery with respect to economy and exchanges and understandings for a long time to come. Senator KEED. DO you not think that the repeated speeches of Mr. Wiggin, of the Chase Bank, advocating the complete cancellation, make the task of this Government very much harder in collecting these eminently just debts? Mr. MITCHELL. I have not any question but that Mr. Wiggin, in making that expression, feels that that is the only way out. I think that any expression of that sort makes it more difficult for governments to sit down and view this question in all of its phases and reach an answer that, in itself, is sound. That is why I say to you, as I said yesterday, that I am not in favor of a cancellation program. Our institution has never taken the standpoint that we -were for cancellation. Senator REED. I hope it never will do that. Senator JOHNSON. I want to emphasize one fact. Why mention Mr. Wiggin alone? Are you not aware that Mr. J. P. Morgan has said that he believes in the cancellation of these debts? Senator REED. I mentioned Mr. Wiggin alone. Mr. MITCHELL. I meant the speech in which he cited it. Senator JOHNSON. I understand. But are vou aware of that fact? Mr. MITCHELL. I do not not know that I recall exactly Mr. Morgan's statements. Senator JOHNSON. All right. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Do you hold to the theory that future generations in a given government may rightfully repudiate the legal obligations of an indebtedness previously incurred? Do you hold to that theory? M r . MITCHELL. I d o n o t . Senator SHORTRIDGE. Well, is there any intelligent, civilized man in the world to-day that would hold that a given government may repudiate the debts legally incurred by their predecessors? Is there any man who holds to that doctrine? The CHAIRMAN* I would like Senator Johnson to proceed. Senator JOHNSON. If you will give me 15 minutes, I can conclude with this witness. Senator GORE. Mr. Chairman, one question. The CHAIRMAN. It is 5 minutes past 11 now. Senator Johnson can have 15 minutes. Senator JOHNSON. That is all I ask. Senator GORE. Mr. Chairman, with the consent of the Senator from Michigan, I would like to say I am not for cancellation. Thank you. Senator JOHNSON. I am reading to you now and calling your attention to certain items which are on the sheet which you "filed with this committee, sheet No. >1, in: which the National City Co. was manager. The first item I call your attention to is an item under date of January 26, 1925, the A. E. G. (General Electric Co. of Germany ) , the amount of issue was $10,000,000, and the profit upon which, according to that sheet, is $222,236.83. 107 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Mr. MrrciiELL. Yes, sir. Senator JOHNSON. That is correct? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s , s i r . Senator JOHNSON. The next one I direct your attention to is the Central Bank for Agriculture, Germany, October 16, 1925, in which the issue was $25,000,000. and upon which your pront. according to the sheet, was $354,516.58. Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. But it is September 16. Senator JOHNSON. YOU are correct. It is a " 9 . " September 16, 1925. Mr. MITCHELL. Profit, $354,516.58. Senator JOHNSON The next one is Rhine Westphalia Electric Power Corporation, November 12, 1925, a $10,000,000 issue, upon which your profit ivas $236,521.04. Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. The next one, if you please, is A . E. G.—General Electric Co., Germany—December 9. 1925, an issue of $10,000,000, upon which your profit was $292,231.43. Sir. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. The next one is Saxon State Mortgage Institution, January 15, 1926, an issue of $5,000,000, upon which your profit was $150,551.16. Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. The next one is the Ilseder Steel Corporation, April 29, 1926, an issue of $7,500,000. upon which your profit was $225,964.96. Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. What is the location of that particular steel corporation? Mr. MITCHELL. In Germany. Senator JOHNSON. The next is Saxon Public Works (Inc.), June 30, 1926. an issue of $15,000,000, upon which your profit—hare you it there ? Mr. MITCHELL. The profit was $250,834.75. Senator JOHNSON. Correct. Thank you. The next one is the Saxon State Mortgage Institution Mr. MITCHELL (interposing). What is the date of that? Senator JOHNSON. November 2 2 , 1 9 2 6 , an issue of $ 4 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , upon which your profit was $ 1 0 8 , 0 1 5 . 9 6 . Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. NOW, this is outside of Germany, but I call your attention to it because of our interest in copper—Chile Copper Co., December 13, 1926, an issue of $35,000,000, upon which your profit was $273,480.18? Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. Senator Johnson, where was that copper company located? Senator JOHNSON. Chile. Mr. MITCHELL. This is a subsidiary of the Anaconda Copper Co*,, and this represents the only outstanding public debt of the Anaconda group. "'••' Senator JOHNSON. The next is the Central Bank for Agriculture, Germany, July 17, 1927, an issue of $30,000,000, upon which your profit was $223,631.92; is that correct? 108 SALlE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. The next is Rhine Westphalia Electric Power Corporation, August 1 0 , 1 9 2 7 , an issue of $15,000,000, and the profit w a s $210,788.45? Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. The next is Saxon State Mortgage Institution, September 8 , 1 9 2 7 , $2,000,000, upon which your profit was $ 4 9 , 2 8 3 . 2 6 ? Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. The next is Central Bank for Agriculture, Germany, October 14, 1927, an issue of $50,000,000, upon which your profit was $359,279.93? Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. The next one is Chile Mr. MITCHELL (interposing). What is the date of that? Senator JOHNSON. January 2 4 , 1928. It is a refunding debt, I assume? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes; it is a railway refunding loan, called railway refunding sinldng fund 0 per cent gold external bonds. Senator JOHNSON. Your profit was $547,957.63? Mr. MITCHELL. YOU failed to state the amount. Senator JOHNSON. The amount of the issue was $ 4 5 , 9 1 2 , 0 0 0 . And the profit I stated correctly, did I not? Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. . Now, the next is Central Bauk for Agriculture, Germany, May 2 , 1928, an issue of $25,000,000. Mr. MITCHELL. That is correct. Senator JOHNSON. Will you state the profit on that? Mr. MITCHELL. Profit of $137,740.32. Senator JOHNSON. Thank you. General Electric Co. of Germany, May 22, 1928, an issue of $10,000,000, upon which your profit was $187,557.38. Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. General Electric 1928 Mr. MITCHELL (interposing). Wait a Co., Germany, June 7, minute. Is that the same one? Senator JOHNSON. That is a second one. The first one is $ 1 0 , 000,000, and the next one is $5,000,000. Mr. MITCHELL. Let me have the date. Senator JOHNSON. June 7 , 1 9 2 8 . Mr. MITCHELL. I will have to take that from your record. Senator JOHNSON. Well, that is $5,000,000 here* It says "See above " at one place, and that is the only place it says " See above," and it gives you a profit of $134,803.31. Now, the next one of Rhine Westphalia Electric Power Co., September 2 6 , 1 9 2 8 , $20,000,000, and gives you a credit of $ 2 2 7 , 7 4 5 . 9 3 . Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. What is "R. W. E. Common Stock"? Mr. MITCHELL. That is the Rhine; Westphalia Electric Power Corporation. Senator JOHNSON. Another of these Ilseder Steel Corporation issues, October 31, 1928, an issue of $10,000,000, upon which there is a profit of $117,814.89. SALE OF .FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES 109 Senator JOHNSON. That is correct. That is the Ilsedcr Steel Corporation. Senator JOHNSON. Yes. I see another Chile loan here of September 4 , 1 9 2 8 . Do you remember what that was? Mr. MITCHELL. September 4 ? Senator JOHNSON. Yes. Mr. MITCHELL. $ 1 6 , 0 0 0 . 0 0 0 , The profit was $ 1 7 0 , 1 3 4 . 6 2 . I do not know whether you have covered that before or not, Senator. Senator JOHNSON. I do not think I did. Mr. MITCHELL. I do not recall. Senator JOHNSON. Another is City of Antwerp, December 1 0 , 1928, an issue of $ 1 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , and a profit of $ 8 4 , 2 5 4 . 0 1 . Mr. MITCHELL. Correct Senator JOHNSON. And the Rhine Westphalia Electric Power Co., March 2 0 , 1 9 3 0 , an issue of $ 2 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , and a profit of $ 2 2 6 , 5 8 2 . Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. The next one is the Republic of Chile, an issue of $ 2 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , April 2 4 . 1930, upon which there is a profit of $218,071.25. Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. The next one is Saxon Public Works, July 3 0 , 1930, an issue of $ 1 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , and a profit of $ 6 8 , 1 4 9 . 8 7 . Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator JOHNSON. The next one is Februarv 2 0 , 1 9 3 1 , Rhine Westphalia Electric Power Co.. an iVsue of $ 7 , 5 0 0 , 0 0 0 , with a profit of $8,205. Mr. MITCHELL. Correct. Senator COUZENS. Arc they guaranteed by the German Govern- ment i M r . MITCHELL. NO. Senator JOHNSON. Were any of these loans that were loaned to German companies, the obligations of the Government? Mr. MITCHELL. They were not. Senator JOHNSON. They are all the obligation of the particular corporations to whom you made the loans? Mr. MITCHELL. That'is true. Senator JOHNSON. Have you in your possession any of the circulars or advertisements that yon sent out with reference to these loans? Mr. MITCHELL. I have" here all the circulars having to do with each and every one. Senator JOHNSON. Will you leave, say, with the chairman certain of the advertisements, two or three, that you sent out in regard to the German power lines? Mr. MITCHELL. When you speak of advertisements, I suppose you refer to the usual circular? Senator JOHNSON. The usual circular that is sent out under those circumstances. Mr. MITCHELL. I w ill be glad to. Senator JOHNSON. T W O or three sorts, if you please. Mr. MITCHELL. Very well. . Senator JOHNSON. Yon say here, of course, in your list that certain others have participated finally in the distribution. Were those banks to whom or to which were allocated parts of the list ? 02928—31—PT1 8 SALE OF .FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES 114 Mr. MITCHELL. Those, for the most part, are dealers. They may be banks that have distributing staffs who were distributing some one or another of the issues. Senator JOHNSON. Did you select those dealers or those distributors? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s , sir. Senator JOHNSON. And when you select them do you allocate to them certain specified parts of the loans? Mr. MITCHELL. We handle them in different ways. Sometimes we make it a participation of a set amount; sometimes, under a different plan of syndication, we ask them how much they would like; we do it both ways. Senator JOHNSON. That is, you follow one plan in which you allocate the sum, and another in which you ask them how much they would like? Mr. MITCHELL. That is right. Senator JOHNSON. Can you leave a form of letter in which you allocate specific sums to specific banks? Mr. MITCHELL. I. have not any here. Senator JOHNSON. Can you send one? Mr. MITCHELL. Decidedly. Senator JOHNSON. I wish you would. Senator REED. Is that very often done by telephone, Mr. Mitchell ? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes; it is very often done by telephone, but the confirmation would be of a general type. Senator BARKLEY. Where you make allocations, to what extent is there any compulsion connected with it, or any pressure brought to bear to force the bond house, or whatever it may be, to take the full sum allocated? Mr. MITCHELL. There is no pressure whatsoever. O f course, I heard the questioning of Mr. Lamont yesterday. My answer would be exactly his, absolutely no compulsion. You realize, however, that a merchant does the largest amount of business with those who can be regarded as best customers, and it is only natural for a merchant in securities, who is a wholesaler, to allot generally to specific dealers * who are his best and most constant customers. The CHAIRMAN. You do not force him to do it? Mr. MITCHELL. NO forcing at all. Senator JOHNSON. YOU would not continue your c o r r e s p o n d e n c e long if he declined to buy? Mr. MITCHELL. He would not be a good customer. Senator JOHNSON. I am hastening through in order not to delay the committee and you, Mr. Mitchell. I refer now simply to the sheets you furnished where you were not managers, but were a part of a syndicate, when foreign securities were sola in this country, and I ask you if there the amount of net profit to your house in this second list, where you were not managers but merely a part of the syndicate, is shown to be $11,363,501.26. Mr. MITCHELL. That is correct. The CHAIRMAN. All of the reports in all the sheets, then, are correct, are they? SALE OF .FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES 111 Mr. MITCHELL. Yes. sir. I call your attention, as I did yesterday, that I still have to add here the Canadian and Cuban loans, which, in making up these sheets, I did not include as foreign. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. Mr. Mitchell, you have given the committee the operations over a period of years" What is the period of years; do you remember? Sir. MITCHELL. It starts with 1919, if I recall rightly. You have the chronology there. Senator JOHNSON. It starts with June 1 2 , 1 9 1 9 , and on the other list it began on February 18, 1919. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. And runs to 1930? Mr. MITCHELL. It inns to date. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. And do you recall about how many loans altogether you have made? Mr. MITCHELL. They are on the list. I have not counted them up. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. The total amount. Mr. MITCHELL. The total amount is stated here. I can give you that from a sheet I have here. The issues listed here in which we were the sole managers aggregate $1,171,955,000. The other list, of syndicates in which we participated but which were managed by others, ran to a total of $3,260,407,000. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. Now, every loan listed here, furnished the committee, shows a profit; is that correct? Mr. MITCHELL. N O ; I think there are one or two in the syndicates managed by others that show red figures. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. Then you have really never made a loss in theflotationof any one of these loans? Mr. MITCHELL. I should say by and large that was so. We have had, naturally Senator THOMAS of Idaho (interposing). Is that an unusual record for a bonding house to show or a usual record? Mr. MITCHELL. I do not think I would care to generalize on that. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. The public certainly made a lot of losses. Mr. MITCHELL. The public made A great many losses, as they have in all bonds and securities of any kind, Senator. But in this connection I woud like to call your attention to the fact that the public has also made very large profits. I have here a group of 22 issues of foreign bonds which have been retired. These issues ran to the aggregate of $425,000,000 principal account; they were sold to the public for $416,015,000. In return, upon redemption, the holders received a total of $460,550,000, or a net profit of $44,535,000, equivalent to 10.705 per cent upon their original investment; and while they held that investment, as long as those issues were outstanding, they had a weighted average return of 7.85 per cent in current interest, which was punctually received by those investors. In other wordsj we must not get the idea that investors in those foreign bond issues have universally made losses. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. But they are now making losses. Mr. MITCHELL. Just as they are with respect to domestic bonds. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. "Any greater losses ? 112 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS OB SECURITIES Mr. MITCHELL. I would be glad to give you some comparisons here of the shrinkages. Senator GEORGE. Are they greater or less, Mr. Mitchell ? Mr. MITCHELL. By and large I would say they were less in foreign bonds than they were on domestic bonds. But if you care for quotations, I have quotations here I will be glad to give you. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. Mr. Mitchell, I do not care to take up the time of the committee to go into that. I am wondering about the policy of your bond house. Those bonds, whenfloated,are then put on the exchange and have a daily quotation and market. Do you do anything to support that market in times of distress? Mr. MITCHELL. N O ; generally speaking, the practice is never to support. Of course, many of those so-called sinking funds are what we term market funds. In other words, the amounts payable into the sinking fund are used for the purchase pf bonds in the market at anyfigurethat the market offers below par or below the call price. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. Who gets the profit made on the purchase of the. bond below the call price, the sinking fund or the banking house ? Mr. MITCHELL. Neither. The borrower gets that. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. The borrower gets it? Mr. MITCHELL, The borrower gets that. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. I did not know whether that had been brought out clearly or not. Senator GORE. Mr. Chairman, I wish Mr. Mitchell would print in the record the comparative list of bonds that he mentioned a moment ago, including a list of all defaulted bonds. The CHAIRMAN. That lias already been ordered to be printed in the record. Senator GORE.. The comparison between the foreign bonds and domestic bonds? The CHAIRMAN. NO, not that, but the bonds which have been referred to to-day by Senator Johnson, and also others that tfe did liot refer to. Senator COUZENS. Senator Gore wants the list put in the record that Mr. Mitchell has just said he could make up, showing the comparison of decrease in value in domestic and foreign bonds. Senator GORE. Yes, I would like for him to include a list of defaulted bonds too. The CHAIRMAN. HOW soon could you furnish that list? Mr. MITCHELL. Well, of course, l ean give you quotations on any particular bonds that you wanted. Bear in mind that to .date you have not asked me to. give the comparison of the prices of domestic and foreign bonds. I will be glad to give you that. The CHAIRMAN. You can send it and have it here, by Monday, can you not? MJV MITCHELL. L e t me ask you if this will satisfy the c o m m i t t e e . Here is a representative list of foreign bonds; also a list of d o m e s t i c bonds, which shows the high for 1 9 2 9 , 1930, 1931, and the p r e s e n t price.< If the committee would glance at this and see if that would satisfy, I would be glad to submit it at this time. The CHAIRMAN. I think that is just what the Senator is asking for, and that will be ordered printed in the record. SALE OF .FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES 113 Senator (MIRE. That is what I wanted, and you could put in the record later a list of defaulted bonds, Mr. Mitchell. Could you do that ( Senator KINCS. Do you mean defaulted on the interest or defaulted in any. part of the payment? Senator GORE. Either or both. Mr. MITCHELL. Of course, this involves quite a lot of study. You are referring now to the entire list, Senator Gore, are you, so far as I can follow you, of foreign bonds that are in default? Senator GORK.* Yes. We can probably obtain that otherwise. M r . - M I T C H E L L . I would be very glad indeed to develop it for you if I can save you that trouble. (Senator GORE. Mr. Chairman, perhaps that is unnecessary. I see this morning a schedule of those bonds, and I think it ought to be in the record, and I will consult with the chairman about printing it in this record. The CHAIRMAN. I want to say to the Senator and members of the committee that all of these requests that lists be put into the record would be best answered by appending them to the hearing so they will be all together. I wrill instruct the Public Printer to do that. (The lists of representative domestic and foreign bond issues furnished by Mr. Mitchell will be found at the end of this day's proceedings.* ~ , Senator THOMAS of Idaho. Mr. Mitchell^''just one other question. You state that you think that the depreciation in domestic bonds has been more than in foreign bonds. Do you care to answer the question as to what your judgment will be as to the ultimate payment of the foreign bonds, as to whether the foreign bonds will have a better chance to be 'paid than the domestic bonds? Mr. MITCHELL. !So; I would not care to make a comparison. It would be unfair to attempt to make such a comparison. Senator THOMAS of Idaho. I wondered what your judgment was. Senator JOHNSON. Can you tell whether any members of the Federal reserve banks have any of these securities that we have read off that were included in your list; foreign? MR* MITCHELL. Yon mean member banks? Senator JOHNSON. Yes, sir. Mr. MITCHELL. Oh, yes; of course they have. They have many. Of coutse, the* Federal reserve banks ;therselves-have none. Senator JOHNSON. I mean member banks. Mr. MITCHELL. Member banks? Senator JOHNSON. Yes, sir. There are about 8 , 0 0 0 member banks? Mr. MITCHELL. I think so. Senator JOHNSON. H O W many that are not members? Mr. MITCHELL. I can not recall, but I should say there are perhaps Senator K I N G . Y O U have stated that Senator JOHNSON. There are about, I think, 2 0 , 0 0 0 nomnembers, but I am not clear on that. MR* MITCHELL. The figure has escaped me for the moment. Senator JOHNSON. But many of the banks that are members of the Federal reserve have the securities that are in your list that have been submitted here? 114 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS OB SECURITIES Mr. MITCHELL. Most decidedly. Senator GEORGE. Mr. Mitchell, I was about to ask you the same general question that had about the same purport. Take, for instance, thefirstissue of bonds there, the National City Co.; I believe it is the Swedish Government. M r . MITCHELL. Y e s . Senator GEORGE.; The banking group here is listed under No. 422? Mr. MITCHELL., NO. That means that the number of dealers Senator GEORGE. Yes ; exactly. Mr. MITCHELL. Participating in the banking group were 422. Senator GEORGE. Were they banks of deposit, any of them? Mr. MITCHELL. There would be, yes; a number of banks of deposit. Senator GEORGE. In that group? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s . The CHAIRMAN. If there are no other questions, Mr. Mitchell, you may be excused. I would like to have the committee now take up Joint Resolution 38. Senator REED. We better go into executive session. Senator CONNALLY. Mr. Chairman, may I ask the witness one question, very briefly? T h e CHAIRMAN. Y e s . . Senator CONNALLY. Mr. Mitchell, has your company handled any Cuban Sugar bonds? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes, Senator. Senator CONNALLY. Are any of those bonds now in default that you know of ? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes; the Cuban-Dominican sugar bonds went into default, and there has been a reorganization. Senator CONNALLY. Were those sold out over the country in the same method that you pursued with reference to these other issues? Mr. MITCHELL. Same way; yes. Senator CONNALLY. Banks and others? M r . MITCHELL. Y e s . Senator CONNALLY. HOW long have they been iir default, do you remember? Mr. MITCHELL. My recollection would be that they went into default in the early spring. There has now been a reorganization, which I think has been completed. Senator CONNALLY. Well, is that covered in the list that you have submitted? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes. It will be. You see, I have omitted Cuba and Canada, but they will appear; Senator CONNALLY. They will appear? Mr. MITCHELL. Yes* sir. Senator COUZENS. Is this in executive session? The CHAIRMAN. It will be just as soon as we are readv. (Thereupon, at 11.35 o'clock a. JUL, the committee proceeded to executive session.) 115 SALE OF .FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES DOMESTIC BONDS High Security 1929 1*30 American Rolling MIlls 1W3 Alleghany Corporation 5*5, 1944 Alleghany Corporation .Vs, 1049 Alleghany Corporation 5's, 1950 American A Fore'cn Power deb. 5's, 2030 Associated Oas A Electric conv. 4Hi's 1948 Associated Oas A Electric conv. 5's, 1950 Baltimore A Ohio conv. 4t$*s. 1900 Canadian Pacific coll. 4^4's, 1900 Central of Georgia Ry. ref. and gen. Vs, 1959. Chesapeake Corporation coll. 5's, 1947.. Chicago A Eastern Illinois 5's. 1951., Chicago A North Western conv. 4*£fs. 1949. Chicago, Rock Island A Pacific sec. 4H% 1W2 Chicago, Rock Island A Pacific convertible i H % 1900.. ChilcConpcr Co. 5's, 1947 Central States Electric 5's. 1948 Cities Service Co. convertible 5's, 1950.... Denver A Rio Grande ref. and imp. 5's, 1978 Erie R. R. ref. and imp. 5's, 1967 Florida East Coast 5's, 1974 General Theatre Equip. 6>. 1940 Goodrich Co., E. F., 6's., 1945 Great Northern Ry. gen. 4H's, 1977. Gulf States Steel 5H's, 1942 . Hudson Coal 5's, 1962 International Match convertible 5's, 1941 International Match convertible 5't, 1947 International Paper ref. 6's, 1955 International Telephone 4H's, 1952 International Telephone 5'», 1955 . Middle West Utilities, conv. 5% 1933 Middle West Utilities, conv. 5% 1934.... Middle West Utilities, conv. 5'st 1935 . Paramount Famous Laaky fl's, 1947 — Paramount Publlx htf*, 1950 Pan American Petroleum of California 6'«, 1940 * Philadelphia A Reading Coal A Iron 6's, 1949 Phlllipm Petroleum Postal Telegraph A Cable Co. 5'S, 1953 Remington Rand 1947 St. Louis A San Francisco 4V$'st 1978 St. Louis Southwestern First term. 5's, 1952 Seaboard Air Line ref. 4's, Seaboard Air Line 6*s, 1945 Seaboard All Florida 6's. 1935.. Skelly Oil Co. 5H'«. 1W9 Wabash R. R. ref. * H % 1978. t Wabash R. R. 6's, 1976.— Wabash R. R. .Vs, 1980..—. Warner Bros. Pictures 6'«, 1939 Waldorf Astoria Hotel 7% 1954 Warren Bros. conv. 6's, Western Union Telegraph 5's, 1951*..*. Western Union Telegraph 5*«, Youngstown Sheet A Tube 6's, 1978 112 U1M Present 1931 101 mi 87 &M 104 H 100 0 101H 1 lOlfi 100K 8 4 S5H 96 *4 nH BOH 10oHt 97 V 103 101 \ »s 95* ioi M "97 90H 128 95 97 Ji - 61H iooU 99 - 98H S4 — & 73 95& * m mi mi 03Jii I00*i 3mi 98 H no 97H 90H 101 95H 102 flOM 79 72 99H WU\ 102U1 100H IOBH! lMHi 'mil 104 \ i mm mu\ 92 - 116 SALE'OF'FOREIGN=BONDS OB SECURITIES Representative list of foreign Issue Austrian 7's, 1923-1943 ~ Belgian 7's, 1925-1955 Denmark 6's, 1922-1942 Finland 5^'s, 192&-1958 French 7's, 1924-1949 Paris-Lyons Med. R.r.fl's,1922-1958. German 7's, 1924-1949 Berlin 6's, 1928-1958 — Dutch East Indies 6's, 1922-1947... German Central Bank for Agriculture 6's, 1927-1960. Japanese 6H's, 1924-1954.. Chile 6's, 192&-1960 Argentine 6's, 1923-1957___ Australian 4lA% 1928-1956—^ Italy 7's, 1925-1951... Peru 6's, 1927-1960 Brazil 6)6% 1926-1957 Hungary 7&'s, 1924-1944 bond issue* Approximate amount outstanding 1939 high $19,506,000 47,397,000 30,000,000 14,468.000 74,741,000 38,958,000 81,960,000 14,512,000 38,367,000 48,380,000 134,321,000 40,440,000 36,545,000 49,738,000 91,373,000 48,585,000 9G, 921,000 7.646,000 105 IJO 104J6 92 113 X 102 108 92 104H 88 103 . 94 101 mi 97 H 90 96 h 101 h S A L E OF FOREIGN BONDS OB S E C U R I T I E S I N UNITED THE STATES MONDAT, DECEMBER 21, 1931 UNITED STATES SENATE, COMMITTEE ON F I N A N C E , Washington, D. C. The committee met at 10 o'clock a. in., pursuant to adjournment on Saturday, December 19, 1931, in the committee hearing room in the Senate Office Building, Senator Reed Smoot presiding. Present: Senators Smoot (chairman), Watson, Reed, Shortridge* Couzens, Bingham, La Follette, Jones, Harrison, George, Walsh ot Massachusetts, Barkley, Connally, Gore, and Costigan. Present also: Senators Johnson and Brookliart. The .CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order, and we will proceed with the hearing. Mr. Kahn, will you be sworn, please? TESTIMONY OF OTTO H. KAHN, MEMBER OF THE BANKING HOUSE OF KUHN, LOEB & CO., NEW YOBX, N. Y . (The witness was duly'sworn by the chairman.) T h e CHAIRMAN. M r . Kahn, have you read the resolution authorizing the investigation? Mr. K A H N . Yes, Senator; I have. Senator JOHNSON* For the purposes of the record, will you state just exactly what house you represent, and whether it is a corporation or a copartnership ? Mr. IVAHN. I am a member of the house of Kuhn, Loeb & Co., which is an unlimited copartnership. Senator JOHNSON. In business where? Mr. K A H N . In business in New York. Senator JOHNSON. , And the character of its business, if you,please, sir? Mr. K A H N . The character of the business is primarily wholesale investment banking. Senator JOHNSON. Pardon me, AIR. Chairman. How long has it been in business there if you please? Mr. K A H N . About 60 years. The C H A I R M A N . Have you a statement of the foreign loans that you have made within the last few years? Mr. K A H N . Yes, sir; I have such a statement. Owing to the shortness of the notice given, it is not exactly in the shape in which I would like to file it with the committee, but it contains all essential facts, and I am in position from it to give you all the facts 117 118 SALE ' OF'FOREIGN=BONDS OB SECURITIES you might wish to inquire into, but I should like the permission of the committee to get it in a little more presentable shape and have it checked before it is placed on the records of the committee. I ask that permission merely owing to the fact that my notice was so short. I only' heard, Saturday forenoon, wheii the office was about to close, that I was wanted here on Monday. The CHAIRMAN. Will you take up'each loan and tell the committee the amount of the loan, the rate of interest, and any other information that you have in relation to the same? And I would like to have you follow it up with each of the loans that your company has made. Mr. KAHN. Thefirstloan is a Swedish Government loan amounting to $25,000,000, made on the 11th of June, 1919. I should like to say, with respect to that, that quite possibly the same loan was mentioned by Mr. Mitchell, of the National City Bank, as being among his loans. Amongst the loans which I am going to read there are three as to which we really joined with other houses, but we were the managing issuing house, and that, is why they appear in this list,.although it is quite possible that those particular three loans which I shall desijgnate may also have appeared in the list of Mr. Mitchell or may appear in the list of, the Guaranty Trust Co., thus constituting an apparent duplication. This particular loan was $25,000,000. The price paid to the Government was 96y2. The issue price was 99%. The purpose of the issue was the purchase of commodities in the United States. that all you rwish me to say on each issue? " The CHAIRMAN. Yes ; at this time. Senator JOHNSON. In order to shorten the examination, may I ask you just what profit your establishment made out of that loan? Mr. KAHN. Yes; the originating group—and I believe my predecessors have explained what the term " originating group " means; it means the originating banker or leader of the issuing group, the manager of the issuing group, and the house that is primarily responsible toward the Government with which this particular transaction is made—— Senator JOHNSON. Your house was the originator? Mr. KAHN. Our house was the originator, the leader of this particular issuing group, and, as I said, primarily responsible both in dealing with the Government and in having the responsibility for this loan in case we should not be successful in forming an underwriting group, and i n case the underwriting group should not have s u c c e e d e d m forming the distributing group. As you know, there is usually a tripartite affair : First, the originating, issuing, a n d m a n a g i n g banker who frequently associates other bankers with him; s e c o n d l y , the underwriting group; and, third, the distributing group. Senator JOHNSON. In this instance you. were the primary issuing house? Mr. KAHN; We were the primary issuing house. The compensation of the originating associates was 1 per cent, \ *; Senator JOHNSON. That is, there was a profit of 1 per cent to the primary issuing house? ; f/ Mr. K A H N . Yes,sir. ' . " ' Senator JOHNSON. And that was Kuhn, Loeb & Mr. KAHN. That was for Kuhn, Loeb & Co. and associates. SALE OF .FOREIGN BONDS OR SECURITIES 119 Senator JOHNSON. What associates? Mr. K A H N . There were several other houses associated with us. The National City Bank was principally associated with us; there was quite a long" list of coissuers, but the leading associates were Kuhn, Loeb & Go. and National City Co., followed by the First National Bank, the Guaranty Trust Co., and a number of others. Senator JOHNSON. They were the primary distributers, then, of this particular loan? Mr. K A H N . They were primary underwriters. Senator JOHNSON. I thought you said that your establishment was the first or primary house in dealing with the issue. Mr. K A H N . We and, in this instance, the National City Co. Senator JOHNSON. YOU and the National City Bank dealing with the particular loan, then, then transfer or take into partnership, however you wish to designate it, a larger group ? Mr. K A H N . Yes, Senator. Senator JOHNSON. YOU and the National City Bank, being the primanr individuals dealing with the loan, received 1 per cent? M r . KAIIN. Yes. Senator JOHNSON. Then when you formed your first syndicate, if it may be so termed, at what price were the bonds given to them? Mr. I { A H N . One per cent advance. Senator JOHNSON. What was it that you took them at? Mr. K A I I N . We took them at 9 6 % and we passed them on to the underwriting group at 97%. I should like to make plain, Senator, if I may, that the function of the originating house is not merely that of managing a syndicate, but it actually does stand in the breach as toward the government or corporation with which it deals until it has succeeded m forming an underwriting syndicate; the reason for that being that a corporation or a foreign government when wishing to place a loan here can not afford to say. "Will you try to form a syndicate? " They must be assured that the loan they are negotiating to place is actually taken, because if it were not their credit would be greatly affected. If they failed, if they hod to go from one to another and did not succeed in one case and tried it in another case, it would be highly detrimental to their credit. They must be sure when dealing with a banking house that in the first instance the loan which they wish to place is actually and responsibly contracted for, as far as they are concerned, without waiting for distributing groups to be formed. Senator JOHNSON* Do you guarantee that in the first instance? Mr. KAHN. Yes. Senator JOHNSON. Suppose you were unable to place it? Mr. K A H N . Then we are stuck* Senator JOHNSON. YOU are stuck for the loan? M r . KAHN* Y e s . Senator JOHNSON* S O you started in this instance with a $25,000,* 000 loan at 90%, you and the National City Bank? Mr. KAHN. Y e k Senator JOHNSON. City Bank,first? You received Mr. KAHN. Yes. Senator BARKLEY. I S 1 per cent, Vou and the National that 1 per cent the net profit, 6r out of that is there anything to be taken ? 120 SALE ' OF'FOREIGN=BONDS OB SECURITIES Mr. K A H N . Out of the 1 per cent ordinarily there is nothing to be taken but our overhead, our natural and actual expenses. Sometimes in rather rare cases expenses are incurred on the foreign side'which must be taken out; in instances where you engage a lawyer or other intermediary to help along in the negotiationsSenator- BARKLEY. In that case can you give the actual net profit in dollars to these two banks ? Mr. K A H N . In 'this case I have not got the actual percentage of Kuhn, Loeb & Co.'s interest as compared with the National City Bank's interest, but between us the actual profit would be $250,000. Senator JOHNSON, That is, on the 1 per cent ? M r . KAHN. Yes. BINGHAM. Senator at 971/0? You sold the issue to the underwriting group M r . KAHN. Yes. Senator BINGHAM. What price did the underwriting group, in , selling it to the distributing group, receive ?. Mr. KAHN.; One and a quarter per cent profit for its service**. Senator BINGHAM. And they sold it to whom ? Mr. K A H X And they sold to the underwriting group at 9 8 % . Senator BINGHAM. And #the underwriting group then, sold it to the public? Mr. K A H N , At 99y2. . Senator BINGHAM. Making a little.less than Mr. K A H N . The total commission being 3 per cent. Senator BINGHAM. Making a little less than 1 per cent? Mr. K A H N ; Yes. The total commission as between the manufacturer, in this case, the Government, and the public to whom the bonds are ultimately offered, being a spread of 3 per cent ; that is to say, as between the raw product and the completed article by the ; time it reaches the public. r Senator BINGHAM. Was the reason why the final distributor received such small percentage f the relative ease of ;selling Swedish bonds to the public ? M r . KAHN, Yes. The CHAIRMAN. Take Mr. K A H N . The next up t]ie next loan, please. loan was also a Swedish Government loan, a 30-year loan, at per cent; the amount being $30,000,000. The price paid by the originating bankers was 96% and 1 per cent, or 96.62, on the 22dtof October, 1924. We paid 96.62. The issuing ^price to-the^public^ was, 99*4, which means a total- spread-of * 2% per cent. The originating bankers made a commission of one-halt of 1 per cent. The underwriting syndicate made three-eighths of 1 per cent. The selling commission was 2 per cent. Senator JOHNSON. In all of those profits your house participated ? Mr. KAHN. Our house participated in the originating banker's profits, meaning the originating responsibility; yes. In the underwriting syndicate usually—not necessarily always, but usually*—*11 the distributing syndicate sometimes, and sometimes not. My house is;not a distributing house. It is a wholesale house, and as a rule the distributing syndicate consists to the largest extent of r e t a i l e r s or houses that are in contact with the public and have their salesmen all over the United States. Senator JOHNSON. Who selects those houses? SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OB SECUIUTIES 121 Mr.. K A H N . We select them on the basis of our experience/ on the basis of activities in the field of investment, and we know pretty well which are the desirable houses to deal with. Senator JOHNSON. Do you select the amount that will be allocated to each of those houses? Mr. K A H N . That varies. Sometimes we telegraph or telephone them that we have reserved for them such and sucn an amount of dollars of participation—" Do you wish to take them? " Sometimes we say,M We are about to make such and such1 an issue. Will you telephone or telegraph us how much you would like to have? " It is a matter of psychology, how eager we think they are going to be to participate. Senator JOHNSON. And you anticipate their eagerness at times? Mr. K A H N . I hope, frequently. Senator JOHNSON. Can you say in dollars and cents, Mr. Kahn, what was the amount of profit derived by Kuhn, Loeb & Co. on these two Swedish loans, either or both? Mr. K A H N . As I said before^ Senator, I am not quite sure from this list, which w as gotten up in a hurry, what wTas the exact proportion of our interest in the originating group's commission, and, therefore, I am not able to say precisely what our definite profit was. In the case of the second loan, to which I have referred, our originating margin w as one-half of 1 per cent, which means that our profit was $150,000. Senator BINGHAM. That is not net profit; that is your commission out of which you must pay all your expenses? Mr. K A H N ' When I say 44 profit" the more correct word would always be " spread " or * margin," inasmuch as this is all our business feeds on. We have no other business except the business of buying and selling securities. Therefore all our overhead, all our expensive staff, all our taxes have got to come out of that spread. Senator BINGHAM. You used the word " manufacturing " a while ago. There is this difference between the manufacturing business and your business, that the manufacturer, when he charges a 10 per cent profit writes off all his costs and then adds 10 per cent? Mr. KAHN. Yes. Senator BINGHAM. Whereas in your business, with a 3 per cent commission you do not write off anything. All your expenses have to come out of the 3 per cent ? Mr. K A H N . Yes, Senator. Senator BINGHAM. I notice that Mr. Lamont was very careful not to use the word " profit" because it was misleading. Mr. K A H N . Yes; it would be misleading, inasmuch as primarily we have no other business but the buying and selling of securities. Therefore, against everything that comes to us in the way of compensation we must set off our total expense. Senator REED. Can you tell us whether either of these issues has been (paid off ? Mr. K A H N . The first issue has been paid off. The $25,000,000 issue has been paid off. The second issue is due in 1954. The purpose of the issue was capital expenditures for railways, posts, telegraphs, telephones, and for agricultural aid. Senator BEED. Has it been reduced by a sinking fund at all? 122 SALE ' OF'FOREIGN=BONDS Ob SECURITIES Mr. KAHN. I am afraid that my list does not show it. It is not callable until 1934., Senator COUZENS. Are you trustees under the sinking fund? Mr. KAHN. No; the National City Bank is the trustee under the sinking fund. Senator COUZENS.. Do you at times act as trustee for the bonds that you issue or underwrite? Mr. KAHN. We never act as trustee.for the bonds we issue; no. Senator COUZENS. Do you or not handle the sinking fund? Mr. IVAHN. We do sometimes, in fact, not infrequently, handle the sinking funds, if our clients so desire. After all, the handling of the sinking fund means nothing, Senator, but the buying of bonds in the market and the cancelling of them, and the publishing of lists as to bonds that have been drawn. It is purely a ministerial function* It involves no discretion on the part of the bank or banker who administers the sinking fund. It also involves no particular profit to him. It does save to the government or corporation concerned the necessity of paying a commission to a trust company for handling this particular function which, as I say, involves no dicretion on the part of the sinking fund administrator. Senator COUZENS. You have no discretion as to whether you will go on the market and buy up these securities or whether you will draw them by lot? Mr. KAHN. NO. That is determined by the provisions of the sinking fund instrument. Senator BARKLEY. Is your bank in the ordinary sense a bank of deposit? Mr. KAHN. NO, sir ; we are not. We are essentially an issuing house, purehr and simply. Senator COUZENS. Do you not receive any deposits from any one at all for safe keeping for investment purposes? Mr. KAHN. In the ordinary sense, no. It happens from time to time that in transacting a negotiation for a corporation or for the Government some money is left over for which they have no immediate use and they ask us to keep it until it is used, in which case we are perfectly willing and glad to do so. But we do not solicit deposits. We have no private deposits and are not a bank of deposit. Senator WALSH of Massachusetts. Do you issue a prospectus on every one of those issues of foreign securities? Mr. KAHN. Yes, Senator. Senator WALSH of Massachusetts. Is that the form of prospectus used among the trade [handing a paper to the witness]? This prospectus refers to an issue of 1*5,000 American shares for common stock of the North German Lloyd. It has several subtitles, such as "American shares," "Agreement," " Business and properties," " Purpose," and then the offering and by whom offered; these particular shares being offered November 16, 1928, at $69 per share. M r . KAHN. Y e s . Senator WALSH of'Massachusetts. Then it also has a memorandum of the earnings of each of the companies for which stock and securi-; ties are issued. Then there is a general statement. Several hundred of such memorandums have been handed to me, giving the names of various banking houses that handled these SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OB SECUIUTIES 123 securities. Can you not give for the committee a memorandum or a prospectus which you have issued on all the foreign securities that have been handled l>y you in this country? Mr. K A I I N . Certainly Senator. We have them here, but inasmuch as I am not quite sure "that they are entirely complete, and inasmuch as in some instances they are the only ones we have left, I would like to be permitted to send you photostatic copies rawer than the originals. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Who are the Bankers Bond Digest, of 206 Fulton Street. Xew York? Mr. IVAIIN. I am told by my associate that it is a statistical service that reprints those prospectuses. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. These must be available for anybody who wants them, of course? Mr. IVAIIN. Surely. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. And they are issued each time a foreign or domestic security is placed on the market i Mr. IVAIIN. I presume so. Of course, that is not an official organization. They are doing this. I understand, purely as a statistical service. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. They perhaps formulate this from the prospectus which you yourselves prepared. Mr. K A H N . Oh, yes; no aoubt. Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. Will you let the committee have a copy of all the prospectuses you issue? Mr. ICAHN. I shall be very glad to do so. Senator JOHNSON. Will you let us have the particular paper, Senator Walsh, concerning which you are examining the witness, so that it may be put into the record? Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. There are several hundred, almost a thousand, indicating that there have been a tremendous number of securitiesfloatedin this country in the last two or three years. (The prospectus referred to and submitted by Senator Walsh of Massachusetts is here printed in full, as follows:) 1 7 5 , 0 0 0 AMERICAN SHAKES FOE COMMON STOCK NORTH GEHMAX LLOYD DEUTSCIIER XILOYD) BREMEN (NORO- American shares will be issued by Guaranty Trust Co. of New* York as depositary under a deposit agreement dated November 25, 192$. each such American share representing 200 reiehsmarks (Bin. 200) par value of the common stock of the North German Lloyd (Norddeutseher Lloyd) Bremen, deposited thereunder. AGREEMENT The company has agreed, among other things, that dividends after deduction of German income tax (Kapitalertragsteuer) now* amounting to 10 per cent will be remitted by the company to the depositary at tlie cable rate for dollars current in Berlin "on the day of payment of the dividend; such dividends or any other distributions due to the shareholders will, after deduction of the depositary's fees and expenses as set forth in the deposit agreement, be paid to the registered holders of American shares by check in dollars. Tihe deposit agreement will provide that after .Tuly 1, 1920. or'prior thereto* with the consent of Ktihn, Loeb & Co. and Lee, Iligginson & Co., as depositors, any owner of common stock may deposit it at the agency of the depositary in' Bremen and receive therefore from the depositary in New York an equivalent amount of American shares and vice versa, the holder of American shares may deposit them with the depositary in X e w York ami receive from the agency 124 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES of the depositary in Bremen in exchange therefor the amount deposited with the depositary in New York, under the terras of and upon payment of the charges set forth in the aforementioned deposit agreement. BUSINESS AND PROPERTIES The North German Lloyd, incorporated in 1857, operates through Its own vessels and those of subsidiary companies 31 different passenger and freight lines serving more than 200 ports in all parts of the world. As of November 1, 1928, the aggregate tonnage of the 132 ocean-going vessels of the company and its wholly downed subsidiaries was over £94,000; gross registered tons including such well-known ships as the Columbus, Berlin, Dresden, Murwhcn, and Stuttgart These 5 ships, in addition to 18 other smaller vessels, constitute the company's present passenger and freight service between New York, Boston, other United States and Canadian ports, and Bremen, Germany, and the English, Irish, and French ports which the company serves. The company's tonnage devoted to the North Atlantic passenger service will be practically doubled in the spring of 1929 by the entry into this service of two of the newest and fastest liners in the world, the quadruple screw, turbine driven, oil burners, the Bremen and the Europeeach of about 46,000 gross registered tonnage. PURPOSE Provision having already been made for the cost of construction of the Bremen and the Europa, none of the proceeds of the sale of these shares will be required for this purpose. The proceeds will be used to reimburse the company's treasury for expenditures heretofore made for other construction, for further additions to the company's fleet including 6 first-class, modem, cargo Uners, 2 of which are of about 8,000 gross registered tons each and the remaining 4 of about 6,500 gross" registered tons each, for the payment of the purchase price of substantial interests in other shipping companies recently acquired and for other corporate purposes. EARNINGS For the year ended December 31, 1927, the net earnings of the company, after payment of or provision for all charges, as certified by its auditors, Fides Treuhand Aktiengesellschaft, Bremen, amounted to Km. 26,701,691 ($6,357,500), out; of which Rm. 13,681,954 (§3,257,600) were set aside for at least G per cent depreciation of the original cost of the vessels and Rm. 1,985,837 (8472,800) for depreciation on buildings, shops, furniture, and fixtures, leaving a balance of Bm. 11,033,900 ($2,62T7,100) available for dividends. After payment of 6 per cent on its fully paid preferred stock such balance was equivalent to about 8.71 per cent on the company's Rm. 125,000,000 par vulue of common stock outstanding as of December 31, 1927. Incident to the building and handling of its previously mentioned two new lines which are not yet in service and from which, of course, no revenues have yet been received, the company has been meeting, out of ts current earnings, heavy charges such as for advertising, increase of personnel, enlargement and expansion of its service bureaus in Ntw York, Paris, and other cities, ,and the increase of its dock facilities. As a partial result thereof, despite its gross revenues for the six months ending June 30, 1928, having been Rm. 100,730,000 ($25,411,000) as compared with Ilm.. 96,005,000 ($22,858,000) for the same period of 1927, Its net income for that period declined slightly from Bm. 14,743,000 ($3,510,000) for the first half of 1927 to Km. 13,995,000 ($3,332,000) for this period of 1928. That the company's income is growing steadily due to its increasing tonnage is attested by the fact that its gross income in 1925 was $29,300,000, in 1926 was over $33,000,000, in 1927 was approximately $45,400,000 and for the first nine months of 1928 was approximately $40,000,000. It is most conservatively { estimated that the entry of the Bremen and the Europa into active service in the spring of 1929 will increase the company's gross income by approximately Bm. 40,000,000 ($9,523,000) or about 20 per cent, and, inasmuch as our own experience as well as that of other companies has shown the increasing profitableness of de luxe liners of this type, the company's net income should be proportionately Increased^ Of special interest to American investors will be the fact that of the company's gross revenues for 1926 approximately $10,000,000 were received in SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OB SECUIUTIES 125 United Suites currency and more than 4.000,000 pounds ($10,400,000) in sterling while for 1027 approximately $12,500,000 and 5,000,000 pounds ($24,333,000) were received, thus automatically providing ample foreign balances for the company's foreign commitments. Tluis, for the year 1020 almost 00 per cent of the company's revenues were received in these two foreign currencies alone and for 1027 over SO per cent. GKNKLIAI, Application will he made in due course to list these American shares on the New York Stock Exchange. All conversions in this letter from German into United States currency lmve been made at the rate of 4.20 relchsmarks to the dollar. Offered November 30, 1028, at per share. (These American shares are entitled to all dividends hereafter declared, including the dividends for the full year 102S.V I i y K u u x , Ix>eii & Co. LEK, IIIGGIXSOX & CO. Although tlie.se statements are not guaranteed, they have been obtained from sources we believe to be reliable. Published by Hankers Itond Digest, 200 Fulton Street, New York. Senator B I N G H A M . I understand that these arc not originals issued by the banking houses, but only a digest prepared by an independent and not necessarily responsible organization, 'therefore I ask the Senator from Massachusetts, why have it put into the record? Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. It is a perfectly legitimate organization? There is nothing wrong with it, is there? .MR. KAIIN. No. IT is a reputable organization. Senator COUZENS This only represents foreign loans ? Senator WALSH. All that I have. Mr. KAHN. We will be delighted to furnish them to this committee. Senator BINGHAM. IS this an American stock issue? Senator W A L S H of Massachusetts. North German Lloyd Co., common stock. Mr. K A H N . The next loan was the city of Christiana, Norway, now called the city of Oslo. At that time it was called the city of Christiana, in October, 1020. $5,000,000. The price paid was 03. The issue price to the public was 99. The CHAIRMAN. What rate of interest? Mr. K A H N . Eight per cent. Senator SHORTRIDGI:. What city was that? Mr. K A H N . It was then called Christiana, in Norway, and now called Oslo. The price paid was 03. The issuing price to the public was 00. I should like to explain both in respect to the high rate of issue and to the high rate of margin or spread that 1020, with the shadow of 1921 being cast ahead, was a very difficult j'ear; that the city of Christiania was not well known here; that the amount involved was a very small one, but the work involved was measurably comparable to what it would have been if the amount had been a large one, and that therefore the proportionate amount of expense as applicable to a $5,000,000 loan justified and, m fact, necessitated, a larger allowance in the way of spread than if it had been a currently known city and if the; amount had been larger. 92928—31—FTl 9 126 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES The originating group received 2 per cent. The underwriting margin was 2y2 per cent. The selling commission was 1 y2 per cent. The purpose of the loan was electrical works, harbor, and housing. Senator BINGHAM. Did the underwriting group have such a hard time selling them to the distributing group as to justify that spread? I thought you said it was difficult to sell to the public. Therefore, I suppose the larger amount of spread was necessary? Mr. ICAHN. The amount was small. If you form an underwriting group and a distributing group, you have to put the whole vast machinery into motion, and they do not like to move for nothing. The machinery and the putting into motion of that machinery require little less effort for a $5,000,000 loan than for a $50,000,000 loan. Of course, the actual physical effort of salesmen is greater in the case of placing a $50,000,000 loan than a $5,000,000 loan; but the getting of the machinery to work is not so very much less of an effort, in the case of a small loan than in the case of a large loan. Therefore, you have got to make your compensation somewhat larger, relatively, when the loan is small than when the loan is large. Secondly, at that time the city of Christiania was very little known here, and a {jreat deal of work had to be done in explaining it, in sending out literature, and so forth. Senator COUZENS. YOU do not mean to say that a large house like Kuhn, Loeb & Co. would have to create all that machinery for a simple $5,000,000 loan? Mr. KAIIN. It would not have to, perhaps, Senator, but it so happens that in addition to being what you have been good enough to say is a large house, we are also a very conservative house, and we have learned the wisdom of liquidity, which we find to be one of the essential if not Senator COUZENS. That means unloading fast? Mr. KAHN. If you choose to use the word " unloading "—perhaps it would be better to say not to load yourself too heavily, rather than unloading. Senator COUZENS. There is not much distinction, is there? Mr. KAHN. There is in sentiment, if not in fact, and there is A distinction in principle. Senator SHORTRIDGE. What was the term of those bonds '? Mr. KAHN. Twenty-five year bonds at 8 per cent. They have all been repaid. Senator CONNALLT. What was the total spread? Mr. KAHN. The total spread was 6 per cent; and the reasons for that unusually large spread I have endeavored to explain. Senator CONNALLT. Yes; I caught that. Senator COUZENS. Was there a sinking fund set up for that ? Mr. KAHN. I have no doubt that a sinking fund was set up; and the reason it was paid off so fast was that after a while the credit of Norway improved, became better known, and people realized the intrinsic value of the bonds of these Scandinavian nations. Senator GORE. Was your house the sole originating or managing house in connection with that sale? Mr. KAHN. Yes, Senator. Senator GORE. YOU guaranteed the city of Christiania that you would dispose of the entire issue? M r . KAHN. Yes. SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS OB SECUIUTIES 127 Senator GORE. When you organized this underwriting syndicate did yon pass that guaranty on to them, and did they assume that? Mr. K A H N . They assumed the part of the guaranty which we did not retain, the purpose of an underwriting syndicate being to relieve the originating banker of the responsibility which he has incurred or to reduce such responsibility. Senator Gone. With respect to that guaranty? Mr. K A H N . With respect to the loan. If we deal with the city of Christiania and say, 44 We will buy from you a $6*000,000 loan," whether or not we* succeed in forming an underwriting syndicate, they know they are going to get their money as long as we are solvent. If they do not get their money, we are 110 longer solvent. Senator GORE. If you assume the losses, does the underwriting house share that loss with the originating house? Mr. K A H N . From the moment that we form an underwriting syndicate our responsibility is reduced pro tanto. It is reduced to that extent. Senator GORE. D O you have a written contract concerning this issue i M r . KAHN. Y e s , sir. Senator GORE. Can you put that into the record ? Mr. K A H N . I have no doubt we could; yes. Senator GORE, D O you have a written contract with this underwriting house or is that Mr. K A H N . That is a written agreement; yes. Senator GORE. I wish you would put that in also. That would be typical particularly of those agreements? Mr. K A H N . Yes,"Senator. Senator COUZENS. Mr. Kahn. recently we had a reference to the matter of sinking fund. You state that the makers of these loans usually—in fact, all the time—fix the provisions of the sinking fund I Mr. KAHN. Yes. Senator COUZENS. In that connection I now draw your attention to the circular for an issue in Brazil in 1918, November 1, in which it has the following concerning sinking fund: The semiannual cumulative sinking fund calculated to be sufficient to retire all the bonds by maturity is to be applied to the purchase in the open market, at or below par, or to drawings at par, not callable until November, 1928, except from the sinking fund. Mr. KAHN. Yes. Senator COUZENS. That is not in accordance with your previous statement that you do not have any option as to how you may use $he sinking fund. Mr. K A H N . I beg your pardon, Senator, I think it is, because that option would not be exercised by the issuing house, but would ibe exercised by our clients, who would give us directions as to how they wished tlie sinking fund to be used. That is their privilege and. responsibility and not the privilege or responsibility of the issuing house. Senator COUZENS. Well, t h e n you do have to await instructions Irom the maker of the securities? Mr. K A H N . Yes; unless the sinking fund specifically provides, as it Usually does, how it is to be used. Senator COUZENS. And in this it does not 128 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES Mr. KAIIN. If there is any discretion to be exercised, the discretion is exercised by the maker of the bond, and not by the issuing house. Senator COUZENS. IF the issuing house had the discretion it would be possible, under the provisions stated in this circular, to buy those bonds at par for the sinking fund. M r . KAHN. Y e s . Senator COUZENS. Mr. KAHN. Well. Kegardless of what the market might be. Senator Couzens, I should think it would be a fraudulent transaction, if such a thing were done. Senator COUZENS. Well, I don't know. If you had the option of doing either, I do not know that it would be a fraudulent transaction, unless, of course, you knew exactly what the market was at the time. Mr. KAHN. If I might respectfully suggest, it is the business of the issuing house to know the market and to advise its clients as to what the condition of the market is. Senator COUZENS. If you can have that privilege, certainty. Mr. KAHN. Well, isn't the issuing house in the position of a kind of continuing trusteeship as to its issues? Senator COUZENS. Well, that is what I tried to bring out with Mr. Lamont. that to have the issuing house also trustee is, in my opinion, against public policy. Mr. KAIIN. I am not referring now so much to actual trusteeship as to what I m i g h t call a moral trusteeship. In other words, I feel, and I think other reputable bankers feel, that if a c o r p o r a t i o n or a government deals with a particular firm, that particular firm is in the position o f moral trusteeship toward its constituents or clients, and it has got to give to it to the best of its ability its advice and its service as long as that loan is outstanding. Senator COUZENS. Does that same obligation exist with respect to purchasers of securities ? Mr. KAHN. I do think so; yes. Senator COUZENS. What I was trying to bring out is whether your obligation to your customers or to persons to whom jfou sell these securities is the same as to the maker of the obligation/ Mr. KAHN. Distinctly so, as far as that is possible. It is naturally limited by financial possibilities. But I do think that an issuing house has that responsibility, that continuing responsibility, as to its constituents from whom it bought the issue on the one hand, and on the other hand to the public to whom it sold the issue. Senator COUZENS. And let me ask in that connection, if there IS default in either principal or interest, what does the issuing house consider to be its responsibility? Mr. KAHN. The issuing house considers it its responsibility to DP ,everything in its power to reconstitute and reestablish the solvency and the good credit of the property, to protect the bondholders against any undue exactions that might be demanded of them, to work out the best possible plan of reorganization, to give advice to the bondholders concerned, to give its efforts, its experience, its ability fairly and properly to deal with the stiuation which a default has created. Senator COUZENS. And sometimes you are required to set tip bondholders'protective committees? M r . KAHN. Y e s . SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 129 Senator COUZENS. In such a case do you act on bondholders' committees? Mr. K A H N . Sometimes yes and sometimes no. But \vc always keep in touch with bondholders' committees, and sometimes the members are appointed in consultation with the issuing; bankers. Senator COUZENS. When you act on bondholders committees, in other words, as a protective committee for the bondholders, you get a fee for that also, do you not i Mr. K A H N . We rarely get A fee for acting on a protective committee. We get no fee as bankers for acting on a protective committee. Senator COUZENS. But your officials may go on such a conmiittcc and receive a fee for so serving, as I understand? Mr. ICAHN. Such a fee, if so received, would be a very moderate one. It may be a few thousand dollars, but it is not a "fee of any exorbitant dimensions. Senator COUZENS* I see many of these protective committee circulars in which they solicit depositors of bonds and carrying a substantial percentage of the bonds for the service of the committee. I do not know, of course, how that is divided up as between attorneys and bankers, but I wanted to bring out an answer to the question if you do not get it both coming and going. Mr. ICAHN. Senator Couzens, generally speaking, it is safe to assume that an issuing banker serving on a protective committee would as such receive no more than any other member serving on the committee, if any fee at all; that the compensation of the men serving on such a committee is by any standard a moderate one; that the expenses involved in the way of lawyers' feet, and expenses of various other kinds, such as accountants', engineers', and trustees' fee,^? are heavy ill comparison with and over and above any compensation which are received, as a rule, by the several members of a protective committee. Sometimes the issuing banker does not serve and sometimes he does, but such compensation as he receives would primarily and principally be for services not on the protective committee but for evolving, negotiating, and sponsoring a plan of reorganization, for giving his time, effort, experience, responsibility, and prestige, his placing power, his advice, his best effort to such reorganization. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Kahn, in the last 20 years how many defaults have you had in the matter of payment of interest? Mr. K A H N . Well, Senator Sinoot, I am happy to say that the number of defaults in our case is very limited. The CHAIRMAN. YOU have had one or two defaults, have you? Mr. K A H N . Oh, yes; there have been some, but the number has been a very limited one. The CHAIRMAN. In connection with foreign countries or local loans? H Mr. K A H N . In connection with the loans of foreign countries there is only one to which I will come later on, and that is a mortgage bank/which is the only default we have had in a foreign country. In the case of domestic loans there is, of recent date, one railroad .with which we as bankers are connected that has gone into receivership, unfortunately, as you gentlemen probably know. That is the Wabash Railway. I Senator GORE. Let me ask on one other point right there: Mr. Kahn, you stated in connection with the Christiania loan that 130 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES when you took over the bonds at a fixed price the transaction was a sale; that you became the purchaser of the bonds and not the agent of the city. M r . KAHN. Y e s . Senator GORE. Now, when your house is the managing house, allotting those issues to various underwriting houses, would that transaction be a sale? In other words, would they become purchasers or agents of yours? Mr. KAHN. That is more or less a legal question which I do not feel quite competent to answer in a legal sense. The fact is that from the moment they underwrite it they become responsible toward us and to that extent one responsibility is extinguished, except as toward the city or government or corporation concerned. As toward them, we are solely responsible for the solvency of our underwriters or distributors. Our responsibility ends only when the city, government, or corporation concerned have actually received the money which we have contracted to pay to them. Senator GORE. When the underwriting houses allot bonds to distributing houses is that transaction a sale? Do they become purchasers of the bonds or merely agents of the underwriting house? Mr. KAHN. Again I should say that is a legal distinction which I hardly feel competent to deal with. Senator GORE. Suppose a distributing house does not dispose of its allotment to the public, does it still have to account for its allotment to the underwriter? Mr. KAHN. Yes; for its share, and pay for them. Senator GORE. All right, Mr.'Kahn, that is an answer to the point Mr. KAHN. But, Senator Gore, the originating house remains responsible until the money is paid over. In other words, it guarantees the solvency of the distributor. Senator GORE. You are responsible for it to the issuing government ? Mr. KAHN. The originating house guarantees the solvency of the underwriting houses and the distributors, and it is not relieved of its responsibility until the money is paid over. Senator GORE. You undertake to pass that responsibility on to the distributing house? Mr. KAHN. Yes; but we can not relieve ourselves of it absolutely. The CHAIRMAN. Now. if there are no other questions on this point, let Mr. Kahn go forward with his testimony. Senator GORE. Mr. Chairman, I should like to have Mr. Kahn fite a list of the members of his partnership in the record. Mr. K A H N . All right. The CHAIRMAN. YOU may proceed, Mr, Kahn. Mr. KAHN. The next loan was made Senator JOHNSON (interposing). While on that point I should like to have asked Mr. Lamont to furnish a list of the partners of J. P. Morgan & Co. Senator GORE. I made that request, Senator Johnson. Senator JOHNSON. Has that been done? Senator GORE. Yes. Senator JOHNSON. Pardon me. I did not recall it. The CHAIRMAN. YOU may proceed, Mr. Kahn. SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 131 Mr. K A H N . The next loan was to the city of Christiana again, a 30-year 6 per cent loan issued in September of 1924 for only $2,000,000. The price paid to the city was 94, and the issuing price 98, and the total margin was 4 per cent, of which the originating group retained 2 per cent. There was no underwriting group, the amount bein£ so small. There was only a distributor's group, which also retained 2 per cent. The purpose was, again, for electric works, for harbor improvements, and for housing. After that we come to the city of Oslo, which is the same city under a different name, a loan made in October of 1925, 30 years, 6 per cent sinking-fund loan due in 1955. The amount was $8,000,000, and the price paid to the city was 97, and the issuing price was 99^» to the public, leaving a total margin of 2% per cent. In that case there was no originating group participation, but that was merged with the underwriting group participation, and the underwriting group and originating group together received three-quarters of 1 per cent, and the selling commission to the distributors was 1% per cent. The purpose was the same as before, for harbor improvements, housing, and electric works. Senator CONNALLY. If I might interject a question right there, Mr. Chairman? The CHAIRMAN. Certainly. Senator CONNALLY. Mr. ICahn, why was it that the credit of the city of Christiana or of Oslo improved so much between those years, the bond bringing 3 per cent more, and of course you sold them for a higher figure, I take it? Mr. K A H N . Between the year 1 9 2 0 and the year 1 9 2 5 , what one of my predecessors on the stand here has called international mindedness of the American public proceeded apace and it was perhaps at its apogee in 1925. Senator CONNALLY. But as I understood it you rend about a loan a while ago made in 1924 and then you read one in the next year. Mr. K A H N . Xo, I think you did not get that quite right It was Senator CONNALLY (interposing). A loan of $S,000,000. Mr. K A H N . The one for $2,000,000 was a 6 per cent loan—we started with an 8 per cent loan in 1920, and we came to a 6 per cent loan in 1924. and then we came to another 6 per cent loan in 1925. Senator CONNALLY. That was the one I was asking about, the one you purchased at 94 and the other at 97. Mr. K A I I $ . Yes, but in the meantime the demand for foreign investments in this country had greatly increased, and the credit of the Scandinavian countries and Scandinavian cities, had become :a favorite form of invesement. And you will understand that the price is not based upon our own estimate but upon our best judgment as to what the investing public will be willing to pay. Senator CONNALLY. I can understand how that might come about over a period of years, and yet here was one issue in one year and .another issue the next year and there was a difference of 3 per cent in the price. I Mr. K A H N . YOU will understand that in the course of six months .sve have seen a difference of vastly more than 3 per cent in the .value of our railroad bonds,. 132 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES Senator CONNALLY. Yes, but that is hardly comparable with government bonds, and Mr. K A H N (interposing). And we have seen Senator CONN ALLY (continuing). That was under the present administration, but I am talking about normal times. Mr. K A H N . Senator Connally, we have seen in the course of three months that United States Government bonds can decline very materially. Senator CONNALLY. In making these rates when these governments come to you, do you usually fix the rate of interest or is it done under your advice? Mr. K A H N . We advise them what is the best rate of interest obtainable. Senator CONNALLY. And you tell them what you can market the bonds at? M r . KAHN. Yes. Senator CONNALLY. They have not much option on that. They have to take your price and your terms. Mr. K A H N . Oh, no. They are entirely free to act as they please. Senator CONNALLY. I know, but they have to sell them through your advice, and therefore they have to follow your advice. Mr. K A H N . That is rather putting the cart before the horse. They first ask our advice and if they think we are right and if they think our price is right they deal with us. If they think we are wrong and they can do better by going to somebody else, then they do so. Senator CONNALLY. And do they do that, even to the point of going around from onefirmto another? Mr. K A H N . Very few governments, just as you would not ordinarily go to a different doctor every month or every year, change from one banking house to another, although some governments do. For instance, the Argentine Government has often rotated in this matter, and are apt to go from one banker to another. Senator CONNALLY. Do you mean after they have dealt with one banker or before? Mr. K A H N . After they have dealt with them often. They are apt to try one banker and then another. But usually a government sticks to the banker it has once picked out, as long as they get satisfaction. Of course, if they think they can do better elsewhere, then they go elsewhere. The CHAIRMAN. We must hasten along, as it is now 5 minutes to 11Senator JOHNSON. Mr. Chairman, might I ask: Arc 'you going to hold the hearing after 12 o'clock to-day? Senator COUZENS. Oh, we can not do that. The CHAIRMAN. Well, we can not take up the moratorium until 2 o'clock. Senator JOHNSON. But we have to be on the floor at 12 o'clock. I was asking merely for information. The CHAIRMAN. I should like to run along now until 2 o'clock, right straight through if we can. We can recess for a few minutes in order to go over and answer the roll call. Senator JOHNSON. That is rather A difficult thing. Of course, I have no control over the matter and am merely making a suggestion. But I do hope you will conclude the hearing to-day oy 12 o'clock, SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 133 however far we may have gotten by that time. The situation is such that I feel I must be on the floor at that time. I do not know what is going to transpire; at any rate, I want to be ready for anything that may occur on thefloor,and at best I can only suggest that action which I think ought to be taken. Senator HARRISON. Why not recess at 12 o'clock? Senator SHORTRIDGE. Let us go along for the present anyhow. The CHAIRMAN. Let us go along and get through as soon as we can. If Senators do not feel it necessary to ask too many questions, I am sure that we can go along now and make a little better time. Senator COSTIGAN. Mr. Chairman, before Mr. Kahn proceeds with his statement let me ask a question. The CHAIRMAN. Certainly. Senator COSTIGAN. Mr. Kahn, with reference to the funds you last mentioned, were they used, in part at least, for the construction jot municipal-owned-and-oporatcd electric light and power plants? M r . KAHN. Yes. Senator COSTIGAN. And you regarded those as good investments? M r . KAHN. Yes. Senator JOHNSON. Those investments were abroad? Mr. KAHN. Yes. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Let me ask right there: Mr. Kahn, was there any arrangement or understanding to the effect that any of the material to be used in the work contemplated by the city of Christiana or of Oslo should be purchased here, and was any of it pur-t chased here in America? Mr. K A H N . I am not sure that I can answer that question without having to investigate it first. I doubt whether there was such an understanding from the point of view of a definite obligation. But I think it is considered generally not an obligation but a matter of usual practice and fair consideration other things being equal or substantially equal, that the lender will buy such stuff as he has to buy in the country which gave him the money. Senator SHORTRIDGB. I purposely used the word " understanding," to be followed by the question wliether or not in point of fact any material to be used in the city mentioned was purchased from any of our manufacturers or producers here in America. But if you do not know you may pass on. Mr. K A H N . 1 am unable to answer that question; but, as I have said, that is not specifically required in this country as a rule. It is sometimes in other countries. For instance, France rather makes it a habit to do so. But American bankers do not insist upon it as a general practice. Senator GORE. Mr. Kahn, have you made any investigation to ascertain or have you had any reports as to whether any number of individual investors take any particular amount from those distributing houses? Mr. K A H N . Yes, roughly speaking, I should say it would be safe to count on an average of §3,000. Senator GORE. If you have made any particular study of that matter, I wish you would attach a statement in one or two issues to your testimony. Mr. KAHN* I will see if I can do that. 134 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES Senator GORE. NOW, in the placing of these bonds and securities do theyfindlodgment in the hands of individual purchasers throughout the country? M r . KAIIN. Y e s . Senator GORE. Isn't it pretty much true in England, too? It is a. large creditor country, and I believe owns some $20,000,000,000 of securities. Do you know whether the securities are largely distributed among the English people or are they more held by trust companies and bankers than in this country? Mr. KAHN. They are largely distributed among the English people. At the same time I think to a greater extent, relatively speaking, than here the English trust companies and English insurance companies and English investment houses particularly, and particularly again, I will say, the Scottish investment companies are permanent holders of bonds. Senator GORE. Of foreign bonds. M r . KAHN. Y e s . The CHAIRMAN. YOU may proceed, Mr. Kahn. Mr. KAHN. The next loan is the city of Oslo again, 20 years, 5 % per cent, issued in January of 1926. The purchase price was 94, and the issue price was 97. The margin was 3 per cent. Again the originating group and the underwriting group were merged, the amount being so small, and the originating and underwriting groups together received per cent, and the distributing group received also 1% per cent. Senator JOHNSON. YOU did not state the amount of that loan. Mr. KAHN. It was $4,000,000. The CHAIRMAN. Senator Johnson, would it be just as satisfactory to you to have that statement put into the record, all these details about these loans, which would save a lot of our time ? Senator JOHNSON. Mr. Chairman, it is time that it takes a long time to get these matters in this way. At the same time it is the only way that the committee can familiarize itself with exactly what these loans were. When you put a bulky tome into the record it, of course, saves time, but I fear that the committee, like myself, would have little knowledge of what the loans have been made for. I think it a profitable inquiry to proceed as we are with Mr. Ivahn. The CHAIRMAN. YOU may proceed, then, Mr. Kahn, but make it as brief as possible. Senator BARKLEY. Mr. Chairman, I was called away, and while it may be that this question has already been asked and answered I should like to be sure: Mr. Kahn, in your case, as in the case of every managing house, to what extent, if at all, are these bonds held by you or them, if any of them are held back by the managing house ? Or are they all passed on the the public ? •Mr. KAHN; They are in principle all passed on to the public. As I have said beiore, an essential virtue of the banker, and particularly the private bankers, must be that of liquidity. If that were not so he would very soon find himself so locked up with the issues negotiated by him that he could not continue. Consequently his effort is to buy bonds and sell them. He is a merchant He is a merchant to that extent, and so much so that in England the, ordinary application of such a banker still in use is that of merchant banker. He does not call himself a banker but a merchant SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 135 bunker, unless he is a house of deposit, which we are not. The essential interest of the private banking business, the issuing business, is that the banker buys securities of such a nature that he feels reasonably confident he can sell them to the public. And having sold them he is then free to go on with other business. If he locks himself up by retaining his own goods, he will very soon be so locked up that his usefulness as a banker will have ceased. Senator BARKLEY. After you have passed the bonds on to the public you are free of course then to look out for other customers, for other business, and have you any further interest in those bonds? Mr. K A H N . We have an interest in those bonds until they are repaid according to their due date. We consider that we are under a permanent moral liability to do what we can for the protection of those bonds. Senator BARKLEY. And in event there is default Senator COUZENS (interposing). Senator Barkley, I went over that. You will find that in the record, those questions being asked and answered while you were out. Senator BARKLEY. "ALL right. Mr. K A H N . And I might add that we have frequently made it our business, a contingent part of our obligation, that if there is an undue or unjustifiable decline in bonds, if there is not a fair market for the bonds, we have more than once gone into the market in order to afford apportunity to such people as may want to sell, or as are com1jelled to sell, within the limit of proper prudence and within the imit of our ability, for them to do so. Senator BARKLEY. If this question has already been asked and answered, all right; but to make sure I should like to ask: Mr. Kahn, to what extent does this moral obligation that you feel under, and likewise does it apply to other houses which manage the distribution of bonds; to what extent does that moral obligation actuate you or any other houses, in the hope or wish or in your advocating tfiat the payment of these Government obligations be lightened up to the extent that it may make it easier for those bonds which have been distributed by your house and other houses, to be paid promptly ? Mr. K A H N . If I properly caught your question, Senator. I should say that to define the extent is almost an impossible undertaking. Wc are human, and being human, I suppose we are actuated by ordinary human motives*, one of the motives being to do what we can to discharge our moral obligations; and another motive, I hope? being not to discharge them at the expense of somebody else. I think that is just as strong and decent a human motive as tlie other. Another one is to do what we can as American citizens to be helpful in the existing distressful situation, which is one that concerns not only the banker but as well the farmer, the working man, the consumer, tlie producer; in short, all of us. We are in the same boat. If ever a banker was called upon to divest himself of any banking prejudices, and to give the best, the most unbiased, the most impartial advice he is capable of, that time is now. I am quite sure we all feel it. I am quite sure £hat in advising to the extent we may be called upon to advise as to the attitude 01 our Government in economic and financial affairs >*here the banker's interest is indirectly involved, we are honestly peeking to divest ourselves of our banking prejudices to the extent that they may exist. 136 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES Senator JOHNSON. Mr. Kahn, conceding that to the full—and there is no disposition on my part to question it in the slightest—nevertheless there is the banking prejudice that you described by which the securities you put out you want to see retain the value at least that you sold them for to the public, I take it. Mr. KAHN. Very naturally. Senator JOHNSON. And if legitimately and within your duties as you have described them, you can maintain the price of those securities as you put them out, of cours you do it. Mr. KAHN. Yes; but may I amend my assent to this by saying, not maintain the price but maintain the value. Senator JOHNSON. Maintain the value. Mr. KAHN. Yes. Those bonds are held by hundreds of thousands of American citizens. They are not held by banks mainly; they are not held by rich men mainly; but they are held by hundreds of thousands and probably by millions of American citizens. Senator JOHNSON. Could you tell me what banks, if any, hold foreign securities at the present time? Mr. KAHN. I do not know. Not having access to the portfolios of the banks, I am unable to answer that question definitely, but 1 will say that I do not think many foreign bonds are held by our principal banks. I think they are very widely distributed. Senator JOHNSON. All right. Now, would that apply to longterm and short-term foreign credits? Mr. KAHN. It would not apply to short-term foreign credits. I doubt whether there are any great quantity of long-term foreign credits in existence. Senator JOHNSON, DO I understand you to say that so far as your knowledge extends the banks are not holding short-term foreign credits? Mr. KAHN. Indeed, they do; yes. Senator JOHNSON. YOU say they do? M r . KAHN. Y e s . Senator JOHNSON. And they hold them to a very large extent, do they not? Mr. KAHN. "Very large" is a relative term. I think the total of the short-term credits which have been extended abroad is not relatively—and,, by "relatively5' I mean in relation to the total resources of the country—a very large sum. I stated this morning in coming down here, if I may be permitted to make a remark of that nature, that if the World War had continued one month longer than it did—and we all expected it to continue five or months longer, for the best authorities thought the war was going to end in the spring of 1919 instead of in the autumn of the war had continued one month longer we would have spent as much and probably more in that one month than the entire amount which we have placed in Germany in bonds and credits. Senator COUZENS. I have seen in an article by Mr. Frank Simonds the statement, and I believe it was on yesterday, that there W® $2,800,000,000 of securities that Germany had out in all countries. M r . KAHN. Y e s . Senator COUZENS. And that it was much larger than it was generally considered to be; SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 137 Mr. K A H N . That is in all countries. That seems to me perhaps an additional justification for what the American banks did m making short-term loans and in giving credits to Germany. England was living right across the street so to speak from Germany. She had an age-old prestige for judgment and wisdom in the matter of international financial borrowings. We were perfectly justified in following in our judgment of what was reasonable banking practice the example of a wise old nation like England, being right there, and of a wise old nation like Holland, being next door to Germany, who in proportion to their resources gave larger short-term credits to Germany than America did. Senator JOHNSON. NOW, right there, Mr. Kahn, will you state how much short-term credits arc held in America? Mr. K A H N . M V estimate, Senator Johnson, is that it is somethingin excess of $000,000,000. Senator JOHNSON. Exactly ? Mr. K A H N . Which I do not consider an exorbitant sum for a great creditor nation to extend as an accommodation to an intelligent,, hard-working European nation of the magnitude, ability, and proven and tested capacity of Germany. It may be locked up for a while, yes; but that is the ordinary risk of the business. And the granting of credits for the purpose of facilitating trade and thereby stimulating the entire economic life of all the world, a repercussion of which is bound to rebound to the advantage of America, the granting of such credits is a legitmate, natural, old-established bankingfunction. Senator GORE. Let me ask right there: Mr. Kahn, is there any essential difference in the character of the security taken by Holland.. England, and the United States with respect to short-term credits? Mr. K A H N . I beg your pardon, Senator, but I did not catch that question. Senator GORE. Was there any substantial difference as to the kind of security taken in the case of England, Holland, and the United States with reference to these short-term credits? Mr. K A H N . None so far as I am aware. It is exactly the same thing, and we had-—• Senator GORE (interposing). And the same risk. Mr. K A H N . Yes: our banks were engaging in the same practices as they for giving short-term advances and credits. They had the experience of generations and generations of world traders back of their action, and I think we were justified in following their example. And we were justified on behalf of America as a creditor nation to extend to Germany accommodation within reasonable limits in order to stimulate trade and to enable them to participate in the economic life of the world. Senator JOHNSON. But France did not extend short-term credits to the same extent, nor long-term credits either, did she? Mr. K A H N . Well, I think the reason why France did not is of a political nature, which did not enter into our consideration of the matter. Senator COUZENS. Let me ask right there: Mr. Kahn, what would be the effect of all these short-term and long-term securities if Germany should go off the gold basis? 138 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES Mr. K A H N . Well, that is rather a difficult subject. We have the case of England, off the gold basis, where thus far that has not affected any foreign obligation of the British Empire. To what extent Germany, if it had to undergo the additional shock of going off the gold basis, especially after the horrible experience which its people underwent during the period of inflation, to what extent the German nerves would break completely if that additional blow fell, I am unable to say. Senator JOHNSON. YOU spoke a while ago to the effect that England's going off the gold basis did not particularly affect the governmental debts. M r . K A H N . NO. Senator JOHNSON. I ask you now what effect Germany going off the gold basis would have on short-term obligations. Mr. K A H N . Senator Johnson, England going off the gold standard has had no effect up to date upon private obligations of the British Empire in a general way. They are meeting their obligations as they did before. Senator JOHNSON. With the reduced pound or the same standard dollar? Mr. K A H N . With the gold standard dollar to the extent that the obligations call for it. Senator JOHNSON. But these short-term loans made by American bankers to Germany are payable in gold marks. Mr. K A H N . N O ; payable in gold dollars, all of them, as far as I know. Senator JOHNSON. So that if Germany were to go off the gold basis your contention is that these short-term credits extended to commercial houses and banks in Germany, would not affect our loans to them. Mr. K A H N . I did not say that, if you will pardon me, but Senator JOHNSON (interposing). I got that impression by your reference to Great Britain. Mr. K A H N . I did not wish to convey that impression. Great Britain^ nerves and Great Britain's economic situation are very different from the German nerves and the German economic situation; and what Great Britain can stand is very different from what Germany can stand. As a matter of fact, Germany to all intents and purposes is not on the gold basis now, because the essence of the gold basis is a free flow of gold, which does not exist in Germany. Senator JOHNSON. Then, that is true of Canada, too. Mr. K A H N . It is true of Canada for the time being to a limited extent, yes. Senator JOHNSON. It is still said that Canada continues on the gold basis when as a matter of fact she is not on the gold basis so far as a free exchange of gold is concerned, Mr. K A H N . They still say that Germany is on the gold basis, when as a matter of fact Germany is on the gold basis for the purpose of measuring values, but is not on the gold basis for the purpose of internationality for the time being. What would be the effect if Germany slid "off the gold basis I am not prepared to -say. Senator JOHNSON. It would not be helpful to American credits. M r . K A H N . NO. SALE OF FOREIGN* BONDS OR SECURITIES 139 Senator BARKLEY. The psychology of the situation would be bad to say the least. Mr. K A H N . Yes; particularly as to the possible psychological effect upon the German people themselves if they look back at the horrible times they went through when they were off the gold standard before. Senator COUZENS. But isn't that the difference between what they call control of paper currency and what happened in Germany where it was a case of uncontrolled paper currency? Mr. IVAHN. The question is. To what extent can you control paper currency? Senator COUZENS. Well, it has been demonstrated that some of these countries are controlling paper currency, otherwise they would not be getting on as they are since they went off the gold basis. Mr. K A H N . Well, one of the countries, the principal one, indeed, being England, which is particularly distinguished by steady nerve, by stability, by coherence of its population: a tight little island where you can get a message and establish contact and direction around* the whole of England, Scotland, and Wales in a very short time, it is relatively easier for Great Britain, with her racial qualities and her position and condition, to manage a paper currencj* than any other country. Senator COUZENS. 1)O you think America could manage a paper currency ? Mr. IVAHN. I think America has pretty well demonstrated in the past that she can deal with any necessary task that she is called upon to face. She has met great difficulties, and she has met them and faced them well, and I have every confidence that, if she had. to face that difficulty, she would face it as well as England is facing it. But it is a very difficult and hazardous thing to manage a paper currency. The very purpose of a gold currency is to make it as difficult as possible to get undue inflation, by establishing a medium, long tested in the history of the world for its suitability and relative stability, by which the volume and value of currency are regulated automatically, something which Sir Kobert Home recently termed " a metal anchorage.9' Of course, it does haye itsfluctuations,nevertheless—indeed too much so—and it is worthy of serious consideration what can and should be done to preserve greater stability of values as measured by ^old. But when you have a paper currency, the only definite limitation that I know of is the self-restraint of the people and the governments. I know of nothing which has been tested in actual experience that has power, in the case of a paper currency, positively to safeguard the people against the hazards and the almost inconceivable evils of an excessive use of the printing presses for currency, as we have seen in the case of the inflation period in Germany some years ago. The subject is very much alive now, especially in England. They, or some other country, may conceivably succeed in inventing a safe and fool-proof " managed " currency, but it remains to be proven. Senator COUZENS- Is it not conceivable to you that with the pres 140 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES ent high value of the gold dollar these debts will never be paid on that basis? Mr. KAHN. It is conceivable. That embraces, of course, the entire question as to what should be done with these debts, both in the wav of reparations and of debts due America. Senator COUZENS. Well, outside of that, take our domestic debts; the Federal Government, the State and municipal debts, in my judgment, they can not be paid off at the present high value of the gold dollar. And I am wondering whether you believe they can can be paid at the present high value of the gold dollar? Mr. KAHN. "Never" is a long time, Senator. Most debts are not paid off, but renewed. Nature has a way of adjusting things, and by the time these debts have to be paid cff or renewed presumably the extraordinary tension will have passed away. Senator COUZENS. I understand that many, many debtors are unable to get extensions; the banks are unable or unwilling to give extensions. That is one of the difficulties, that the credit of the debtor is being impaired by the high value of the gold dollar that he owes, and the creditor is trying to get liquidation at the present time at the high value of the gold dollar. Mr. KAHN. That is where the great advantage comes in of a corporation in the nature of the War Finance Corporation, which is essentially a device to protect the debtor. And rightly so; rightly so. I think the debtor is entitled at this time to all the protection that the Government and the moral sense of the community can throw around him. I think it is a wicked thing to compel the debtor in extraordinary times like these, in the face of which he stands helpless to deal with them, it is a wicked thing to go to extreme measures, but it should be made possible for him to tide things over. That can be done most effectively by the temporary aid of the Government. It should be done, as far as possible, bv everybody else. It should be done to the extent that that is possible by the banks. And the public can and should aid, amongst other ways, by refraining from putting an unreasonable strain on the banks. I think the names of men who wantonly hoard money and thus make the problem of the banks still harder ought to be publicly announced in these times. I think we all must stand together to prevent the whole country from being unduly damaged by the extraordinary emergency which, I am wholly confident, can be and will be overcome, but which, for the time being, no one individual is capable of dealing with, and no debtor ought to be called upon to deal with alone, as far as his own affairs are concerned. Senator COUZENS. If you do not care to answer this question, I will not press you for an answer. Is it your opinion that Germany can ever pay off the enormous amount of money she has borrowed for her Government, her municipalities! and her industries) Mr. KAHN. In the long run, Senator, I think almost anything can be done where there is a will. Germany has demonstrated in the past such an extraordinary capacity for hard work, for mastery of difficulty, arid for self-control, that unless she is driven to a point where her nerves crack, to the point of helplessness and despondency I think she will ultimately pay her debts. By paving her debts, 1 mean the private debts, the municipal debts, the (Government debts that the Government owes to private individuals. SALE OF FOItEIGN BONDS OH SECURITIES 141 I do not wish to be understood as making any forecast in the way of reparations, for (hat opens up an entirely different chapter; that opens up. among other things, the chapter of the allied debts to America. Senator COUZENS. Yes; but would you feel it was a good loan now? Would your house underwrite another loan to Germany now? Mr. KAHN. At this moment; no. Senator COUZENS. YOU would not? Mr. KAHN. At this moment we would feel that our responsibility to those who look to us for investment guidance would not justify us in making another loan to Germany until this present economic turmoil has been adjusted and straightened out. Senator COUZENS. Could you estimate the good that was done to Germany by this one year's moratorium proposed by_ the President? Mr. KAHN. I believe it was an absolutely vital thing at the time. Senator COUZENS. You say at the time?" Mr. KAHN. A t the time; yes. Senator COUZENS. Did it accomplish its purpose? Mr. KAHN. It accomplished some of its purpose. Senator COUZENS. It did? Mr. KAHN. It avoided a complete and unexpected financial collapse. It gave time for the world to adjust itself to a situation which is serious enough as it is, but which would have been infinitely more serious if it had broken with such catastrophic suddenness Senator BINGHAM (interposing). Mr. Kahn, if .you will pardon me, I am sure you misspoke and used a word you did not intend to use. You said it accomplished a catastrophic result. Mr. KAHN. It accomplished the avoidance of the catastrophic result. I think it did a great deal of good and if it could have gone through with the prompt and universal^ acclaim and acquiescence that originally seemed to be indicated, it would have been of incalculable value. As it is, it was of great value. Senator COUZENS. June, 1931? IS Germany worse off to-day than she was in Mr. KAHN. Intrinsically, no. Actually,yes; but intrinsically, no. According to appearances——^ This, perhaps, gives me a legitimate opportunity, Mr. Chairman, to say one word as to something which was said in another place. I should like to state very emphatically—probably it is not necessary to say it—that no member of my firm; no one connected with my firm, had anything to do whatsoever with the granting of the moratorium; with any attempt to influence the President to take the step he did, or with any kina of propaganda whatsoever. No member of my firm is or ever has been, nor is my firm in any contact with any foreign government, except to the extent—and the extent is rare—in which we do business with foreign governments. I want to say it as emphatically as I can that any allegation which connects ijns in the remotest manner with the conception, the negotiations, or proceedings concerning the moratorium or with President Hoover's decision and action in the matter, is utterly and outrageously unfounded. The CHAIRMAN. Will you proceed, now? 02928—51—PTl——10 142 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES Mr. K A H N . I would like to add, if I may, one word to deny the allegation connecting Mr. Paul Warburg with my firm in this matter. Perhaps it may be worth while to mention that Mr. Warburg, in the last election, supported Governor Smith and not Mr. Hoover. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Mr. Kahn, before you take up any more of those loans, and recurring for a moment to the long-time foreign obligations, if I understood you correctly you said that while you liad no access to the portfolios of the banks, you were under the impression, from your general information, that the banks and their investment affiliates did not hold any substantial amount of these long-time obligations of foreign governments or foreign corporations. I wanted to ask you whether you wanted to include in that statement the situation of the smaller banks scattered throughout the country, or whether you were referring to the larger metropolitan banks to any extent? Mr. K A H N . I am referring, Senator, to the larger metropolitan banks, with whose affairs I am more familiar. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Have you any impression, from your general knowledge, as to whether or not there are any substantial amounts of foreign securities in the portfolios of the banks not metropolitan in character? Mr. K A H N . I have more than a general impression, Senator; I know that, quite naturally and legitimately, a great many of the country banks were attracted by the higher rate of interest obtainable from these foreign loans at a time when money here was very difficult to place, and considering them to be sound and safe investments, I believe that quite a number of them did buy and still hold a substantial portion of these foreign securities. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Have you a general estimate—and I realize it would have to be a very general estimate—as to the total amount of the securities of foreign governments, or political or civil subdivisions thereof, and corporations or associations, which have been floated in this country during the past two years are now in default? Mr. K A H N . In the case of Germany there are hardly any in default In the case of South America and Central America, unfortunately the great majority are in default. Senator L A FOLLETTE. M r . Sloan, of the Standard Statistics Corporation, testified before another Senate committee that in his judgment, and qualifying it by saying that it was a very rough estimate, in October he estimated that there were $261,000,000; approximately, of such securities in default that had been sold m this country. Would you say that that estimate was approximately correct at that time ? Mr. K A H N . I should say it was an underestimate. Senator L A FOLLETTE. What would your best judgment be in answer to the question ? Mr. K A H N . That would be guessing, Senator, but I could verv easilyfindout by making a list of such securities as have been issued here, and such securities as are paying now. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Will you furnish that and insert it in your testimony at this point? Mr. K A H N . Gladly. SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 143 (The statement referred to was furnished by Mr. Kahn. See appendix.) Senator REED. Mr. Chairman, I would like to follow up a subject that Mr. Kahn brought upon his own account. Mr. Kahn, it was stated on the floor of the Senate last week that you and your firm helped to elect President Hoover. Is that correct! Mr. IVAIIN. Some of the firm voted for him. undoubtedly. Senator BARKLEY. I clo not think any man should be compelled to incriminate himself. Senator REED. Let me follow this matter up. I am most serious about it. And it was also stated that having helped to elect Mr. Hoover, that you suggested the moratorium: that the suggestion came from you. " Is that true ? Mr. IVAIIN. Senator, that is a falsehood without the remotest basis in fact whatsoever. Senator REED. Did you suggest the moratorium? Mr. K A H N . We never suggested it. Senator COUZENS. He has already testified to that. Mr. K A H N . We had no knowledge that the moratorium was coming. I deny that we suggested it, and I deny every implication that is attached* to it. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. lvahu, is it not true that these foreign bonds purchased by many, many of the banks throughout the country, were purchased for their customers, and the individual customers of the bank who originally purchased those bonds are holding them to-day Mr" K A H N . Yes, sir. To an extent. The CHAUIMAX. SO all the bonds that were purchased by the small banks of the country, they can not be in the banks to-day, because of the fact that they were purchased by those banks for their customers ? Mr. IVAHN. A great many of them. Others were bought by the banks for their own investment. The CHAIRMAN. X O doubt there were some. Mr. K A H N . For a secondary reserve. Senator LA FOLLETTE. A S a matter of fact, Mr. Ivahn, were not some of the smaller banks of the country carrying those bonds as a secondary reserve ? SIR. IVAHN. That is my impression; yes. Senator LA FOLLETTE. And my information is that that practice grew very rapidly prior to the depression because the banks considered them to be very liquid. M r . KAHN. Yes. Senator L A FOLLETTE. And that also, according to my information, in selling those bonds to their customers, the smaller banks have often loaned money to the customer with those bonds for security; and under such circumstances, where the individual purchaser has not been able to meet the note the bank has had to take the bond back for its own security. Mr. K A H N . I think that is quite correct, Senator. 144 SALE ' OF'FOREIGN=BONDS Ob SECURITIES Senator CONNALLY. Let me ask you this question, Mr. Kahn: Do you or your institution hold any stock in any banking institution in Germany? M r . KAHN. NO, sir. Senator CONNALLY. None whatever? M r . KAHN. NO, sir. Senator CONNALLY. It has been reported that your firm last year bought an interest in some German banks. Mr. KAHN. There is no truth in that. I have seen it in the papers myself. There is no truth in it. Senator BARKLEY. Mr. Kahn, coming back to the foreign obligations Senator SHORTRIDGE. YOU mean the European obligations? Senator BARKLEY. The European obligations which may be involved in the moratorium—I make no assuption, of course—but if we were justified in assuming from the economic conditions now or in the future that those public and private obligations could not be paid, is there any concensus of opinion in the banking world as to which should have priority; the loans in the United States or the loans in the governments of Europe ? Mr. KAHN. Senator, may I sayfirstthat privately held bonds—that is, loans issued by cities and corporations in the snape of long-term bonds—are not generally speaking, as yet under any moratorium. They are paying their interest and sinking fund and have done it right along. As to whether the governmental claims or private debts should have precedence, one necessarily can only express an opinion, which is subject to controversy and subject to error. My own belief is that the essential thing is to keep the economic life of a country going, because the Government would very soon find itself out of funds unless the economic life is going. In order to keep the economic life of a country going, in order to pay taxes, in order to enable it to do its daily work, the sanctity of contracts must be protected to the limit of what is possible. It is of less importance that one government pay another government to the minute and upon the day what it owes, if it can by mutual consent secure a. postponement, than that the confidence of the ordinary investor or the ordinary individual dealing in one country with another individual in another country, or the business man dealing with another business man should riot be exposed to profound shock as to the faith and credit of the community in other countries. And I think the economic life of all countries is so interwoven that the economic prosperity of one country is bound, in one way or another, to have its repercussions here. It does not necessarily mean that that country will buy goods and chattels here directly; it does mean that the economic capacity of that country will be increased iri one way or another in the direct or indirect ways, and that will favorably react upon the economic condition of Americ, and those repercussions will reach here. It will help her cotton; it will help her wheat; it will help her copper; it is bound to do so. Now it seems to me it is a question primarily of expediency; of figuring out in what way will a postponement, if it is found necessary—and that is a question of examination; that is a SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 145 question of research and of unbiased and hard-boiled judgment—to what extent will a postponement, if found inevitable, be of least damage to the United States, to the people of the United States and to all the world, and to that confidence which is the most essential thing upon which the trade of the ^world rests. My personal belief is that the maintenance of the sanctity of contracts between man and man is an absolutely vital thing for the economic life of every country and that no government can go on and be capable and potent unless it has behind it a capable and potent and solvent country. The direct resources of a govcrment are drawn not from the air but from the labor, the enterprise, and the capacity and the honesty of the people over which it rules. Senator JOHNSON. YOU are saying, then, Mr. Kahn, in short, that you think private debts should take precedence over governmental obligations f Mr. K A H N . If a choice must be made, I should say they should either take precedence or they should, at least, be put on something slightly better than a parity." benator JOHNSON. We liave listened to all the argument you have just made, which was very enlightening, of course. Was not that for the purpose of demonstrating that private obligations should take precedence over governmental obligations? Mr. K A H N . I do not say it was for the purpose, Senator. I did not volunteer any information. I was asked the question, and in response to that question I gave the answer. Senator JOHNSON. I am not quarreling with it. I am delighted to hear the answer. But I take it you were trying to demonstrate that private obligations should take precedence over the governmental obligations. Mr. K A H N . I was saying, and I can not say it in any other way Senator JOHNSON, (interposing). Are you not able to answer directly a question of that sort? Do you believe that private obligations should take precedence over governmental obligations? Air. K A H N . That is putting it in rather a harsh way, Senator, and I would like to avoid answering it in that way. Senator JOHNSON. It is putting it in a plain way. Mr. K A H N . It is a situation that does not now confront us, and I would like to avoid giving a hypothetical answer as to a hypothetical situation. Senator BEED. Let me ask you something about a matter that does confront us. The German (Government owes this country nothing, except the occupation costs. M r . K A H N . Y e s , sir. Senator HEED. The French Government owes us a Mr. K A H N . DO you see any lack of a capacity great deal. in the French Government to pay its debts to the United States? Mr. K A H N . I see no such lack of capacity. Senator REED. Then you do not advocate any cancellation of the debt that France owes to us, do you ? Mr. K A H N . I have never advocated the cancellation of the debt. I have stated in public—and I am on record to the effect—that 146 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES if ever a nation is entitled to get its money back, the United States from the point of view of justice was entitled to get her war debts back at the figures mutually agreed upon. We went into the war— the Allies called us Crusaders—and we did our full share, God knows. We asked for none of the spoils, and we got what we asked for—none. Senator COUZENS. Why do you call them war debts? As a matter of fact, all the war debts have been canceled, and these are postwar debts. Senator REED. So far as France is concerned. Mr. K A H N . Yes, though it has never been so stated and understood in Europe. Senator REED. I would like to ask .you, Mr. Kahn Mr. K A H N (interposing). May I finish this. Senator, if you will pardon me? It seems to me that in plain justice, in ethics, we have not a thing to apologize for in saying we want our debts paid. We did our full share. But I do not think that it is merely a matter of justice; it is now largely a matter of expediency, and I think it should be dealt with as a matter of expediency. And that, also, answers Senator Johnson's question. It is what at the moment is the most expedient or' the wisest thing for America to do. In that I put America first. I feel convinced that what is best for America to do is also best for the world. At the present juncture, if ever, the repercussion of the troubles of one country upon the other is strong and inevitable: the repercussion o(f the prosperity of one upon the other is strong and inevitable. I think what we should do, inasmuch as the question has been asked, and if I may say so without impropriety, is to ascertain most diligently in what "way, while maintaining the'justice and the right of our cause; and without apologizing for what we claim and are rightly entitled to—in what way can we best serve that interest, which is both the world's interest and our own ? That is a very large question. It involves considerations not merely of afinancialbut of a political nature. It necessarily and rightly belongs mainly to statesmanship, and with all due respect, Senator Johnson, I do not believe I should be called upon to answer it categorically, because it is beyond the province of a banker to express himself categorically concerning a subject involving so many elements which are not of afinancialnature. Senator REED. NOW if I may be permitted to carry 011 the questioning for a moment, I want to ask you some questions that do come in the province of a banker. You understand I am not talking about the moratorium of this year, but the suggestion that has been made so often, that we ou«rht to abate our claim against France in order to do this thing which you say is practically necessary and a wise thing, for her to abate her claims against Germany. Mr. KAHN. Yes. Senator REED. NOW that is wiiat I want to ask your opinion on as a banker. You say you see no evidence of a realization in Europe that we have, in effect, canceled all of our war debts in France. M r . K A H N . Y e s , sir. SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 147 .Senator RI;KD. And that what we are claiming from France now is merely the repayment, in effect, of those advances we made after the fighting was over. Mr. KAHN. Yes. Senator REED. T O enable her to buy foodstuffs and materials which constitute her economic life. Mr. IVAHN. That is true, but they do not know it. Senator REED. They do not know it abroad? M r . IVAHN. NO. Senator R E E D . N O W . Mr. Ivahn. as a banker do you think it is practically expedient or limvsary for us to make any further surrender to France, in view of her capacity to pay. in order to buy her to do the prudent anil wise thing toward Germany? I)o you think that is necessary ? Mr. K A I I N . Senator, may I not include in NIV answer to that the general statement that I have made, that from the point of view of abstract justice I think we have a 100 per cent case—a 200 per cent case; I think we have been generous beyond precedent, almost. Perhaps I may qualify that general statement somewhat in the case of England, which country I believe is entitled to have a good word said for her. They were the first to step up to the captain's desk and say. " We owe you a debt. Give us the best terms you can." They have paid us thus far at a much higher rate of settlement than any other nation, and their attitude toward the whole subject of liquidating the financial consequences of the war has been broadminded. As a general proposition, I think, as I have said before, it is purely a question of ascertaining what is the most expedient thing for us to do, leaving the matter of sentiment, or abstract justice, in abeyance for the time being, and finding a plain and convincing answer to the query: How can the world, including America, best get out of the mess that it is in now i Senator REED. The European formula is very simple to get out of the mess, and that is by laying it on America. You do not subscribe to that, do you? Mr. K A I I N . I do not subscribe to that, Senator. If it were possible to find a way by which all these reparations and war debts, which hang around the neck of the world like a millstone, could be taken out and sunken in the deepest depth of the ocean, I should welcome it unqualifiedly. But there is no such way that I can devise or have ever been able to devise, bearing in mind all the elements of the case. And inasmuch as I do not believe any one has suggested a feasible way. the next best thing is to very calmly and with great self-control, and great self-restraint, though with a little swearing and cussing beneath our breath, to try—without letting ourselves be driven—-to evolve something else which will come as near as possible to being a really helpful and effective action toward a solution of an almost unprecedented situation, when almost everybody's nerves are on edge, and some are nearly frazzled. But that, I am bound to repeat, is not primarily a financial problem, though, of course, the financial question enters. Senator SHOUTRIDGE. One question, Mr. Kahn. This country has outstanding many billions of dollars in debts. M r . KAHN. Y e s , sir. 148 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES Senator SHORTRIDGE. NO banker or statesman, or alleged statesman, here or elsewhere, has ever suggested any way by which Uncle Sam could scale down those debts, nor has any such person suggested repudiation by our country. M r . K A H N . NO. Senator SHORTRIDGE. We propose to pay as we have agreed to pay. M r . KAHN. Y e s , sir. Senator SHORTRIDGE. And you hold, as I gather it, others should absolutely likewise observe their legal and moral obligations? Mr. K A H N . Certainly, Senator. Anything that may be done in possible mitigation of those obligations can be done, honorably, only by mutual consent, based upon the recognition of the existence of a grave and compelling emergency. Senator SHORTRIDOE. And by consenting to a year's postponement of the debts due us from them, there is to be drawn no inference of any willingness on our part further to extend or cancel the amounts due or to become due to us under constitutionally executed contracts? Mr. K A H N . I think we should deal with that situation as and to the extent that pressing and manifest emergency arises from time to time. Senator SHORTRIDGE. But there is no inference to be drawn, by consenting to a postponement now, that we will not go forward and expect and ask that payments be made according to contract? M r . K A H N . NO, s i r . Senator SEED. And you do not think a temporary emergency justifies a permanent reduction of those debts? Mr. K A H N . I do not, Senator. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Kahn, you have explained three loans during this morning hour. On this afternoon the committee can not meet to hear your further testimony. If it is not too much to ask, could you be here to-morrow morning at 10 o'clock? Senator JOHNSON. Mr. Chairman, will you permit a brief statement on my part in that regard? T h e CHAIRMAN. Y e s . Senator JOHNSON. I know nothing about what the procedure is to be upon the floor to-day. I do know that there is no disposition upon my part tofilibusterregarding the moratorium. I do, however, intend to present my views to the best of my ability; and I know of others who would like to do likewise. It seems to me, from the statements I have seen in the press—and I do not know whether they are accurate or not—they quote Sir. Watson, the Republican leader, to the effect that we should be kept in continuous session, maybe all night, and with that in view, I should hope that this investigation might go over until after to-morrow. The CHAIRMAN. I shall ask the other two witnesses whether we can hear them at a later time. Senator WALSH of Massachusetts. Do you favor suspending until after the recess? Senator JOHNSON. I do not favor it, and I am willing to go on. But, assuming that we meet the situation to-night such as has been expressed in the press, it is not just to bring us here at 10 o'clock to-morrow morning under the circumstances. SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 149 Senator WAI.SU of Massachusetts. We can not finish with this witness. Senator Joiixsox. No. So may I appeal to the committee to let to-morrow pass bvif The day after that, or the day following, or the week following, or any time will be agreeable. Senator GORE. Senator Johnson, are you concerned to have the investigation go on after the moratorium'is acted upon? Senator JOHNSON. Oh, yes; I do think the investigation should go on. Senator GORE. It will then be largely a post-mortem. Senator WALSH of Massachusetts. Ilow many days do you think it will take? Senator JOHNSON. Four or live days. The CHAIRMAN. Unless we make better progress than we have made so far it will take longer than that. Senator GORE. Yes; I think so. Senator KEED. I move, Mr. Chairman, that we stand in adjournment until January 4. Senator JOHNSON. I have no objection to that, so far as I am concerned. Senator SHORTRIIXJE. What was the purpose of this investigation? Senator JOHNSON. Of course, the purpose was to get information that might be utilized on the <juestion of the moratorium; and also the effect of foreign securities in this country. Senator WALSH of Massachusetts. And remove misconceptions about dealings with them. ^ Senator SHORTRIIX;E. I was in hopes that we couldfinishthe investigation on this resolution before we passed 011 the moratorium. That was the purpose of the resolution. Senator JOHNSON. 1 will say to my colleague that was the purpose of the resolution, or one purpose, but I think the investigation should go 011. And what are we going to do if we stay in session all night, as has been indicated in the press? Senator COUZENS. I suggest, Mr. Chairman, you put the motion. The CHAIRMAN. The motion is that the investigation be postponed until January 4. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Mr. Kahn, have you totaled these sums on those sheets so that you could give the total before you go? The total amount floated, and the totai profits Mr. K A H N . Yes, Senator, as to the total amount floated. Senator GORE. Would it not be a good idea to have Mr. Kaliirs statement Printed in full, the whole statement, and have it in the record, and the Senators can examine it during the recess? Senator COUZENS. Mr. Chairman, Senator Gore makes the sugfestion that Mr. Kahirs statement be placed in the record and it can e examined before we come back after the holidays. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Can you give that before you go? M r . KAHN. Yes. Senator L A FOLLETTE. Would you do that before the recess? The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, that will be done. Senator SHORTRHXJE. Then I object,! for the time being. Senator BARKLET. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Kahn was in the act answering a question, which will take only a little time. of 150 SALE ' OF'FOREIGN=BONDS Ob SECURITIES The CHAIRMAN. YOU ma}* answer the question, Mr. Kahn. Mr. KAHN. My firm issued or participated in issuing a total of $1,136,000,000 of "foreign investments. We ourselves originated and managed $557,570,000. Senator REED. That is included in the first total that you gave us? Mr. KAHN. Yes; we participated with J . P . Morgan & Co. in the placing of $559,000,000. That is, in the total amount of $1,136,000,000. Of the $577,000,000 which we originated, about $200,000,000 has already been repaid or called for repayment, leaving outstanding about $377,000,000. Senator REED. I call for a vote on the question. Senator GORE. Have you handled any German bonds this year? Mr. KAHN. This year? No, sir. Senator GORE. National, State, or private? M r . KAHX. NO, sir. Senator LA FOLLETTE. YOU were about to make some statement relative to the second question. Mr. KAIIN. A S to the profits on that transaction, I have not got the complete details with me. Senator LA FOLLETTE. Will you furnish it for the record ? Mr. KAIIN. I will try to furnish it. Senator LA FOLLETTE. And will you, also, please furnish for the record a statement of the general considerations wliich your house takes into view before }7ou negotiate finally one of these foreign loans; and also a statement as to the amount of investigation which you make of their financial condition ? Mr. KAHN. Yes; I will be glad to. (The figures and statements were furnished by Mr. Kahn. See appendix.) The CHAIRMAN. All who are in favor of the motion Senator JOHNSON (interposing). Before you put that, Mr. Chairman, I want to say this for the record: I am prepared to go ahead with this investigation at any time and under any circumstances. I have suggested that these two days be set apart because of the statements that have been made bv the" Republican leadership as to the Senate being kept in continuous session after it meets to-day. I want that distinctly understood. Senator REED. I call for the question. The CHAIRMAN. All who are in favor of the motion will signify by saying aye. Contrary, no. The ayes have it, the motion is carried. Senator SHORTRIDGE. Mr. Chairman, I want this to go into the record, that quite apart from the moratorium, I think it is advisable to resume as quickly as possible and finish this investigation pursuant to the resolution introduced by my colleague and, therefore I object to a long continuance. The CHAIRMAN. I would like to say to Mr. A Id rich and Mr. Kahn and Mr. Dillon, we will expect you here on the morning of January 4,1032, at 10 o'clock. (Whereupon, at 12.05 o'clock p. m., on Monday, December 21,1931, an adjournment was taken until Monday, January 4, 1032, at 10 o'clock a. m.) APPENDIX W H O BUYS FOREIGN1 BONDS? BY DWIGHT W, MORROW, January, 1927) (Reprinted frum Foreign Affairs, an American Quarterly Review, 25 West 43d Street, New York] A few months ago I was reading a Chicago Tribune on the train. With some surprise I found recorded on the financial page the listed priccs of 128 different italics of foreign bonds. 1 have a great respect for the judgment of the newspaper*. They print the news that they think people are interested in. When I noticed that this great newspaper which serves the Middle West was recording daily market transactions in 128 different issues of foreign bonds, it seemed to me a fact of some significance. I found myself speculating as to the number of issues of foreign bonds which had been quoted by the Chicago Tribune in the edition published exactly 10 years before the date of the paper which I was reading. I subsequently learned from the editor that the number was six. T h e comparision between the number of foreign issues quoted then and now is an interesting commentary on what has liappened in the field of foreigti*bond investment in the past 10 years. Examining that long list of 128 foreign bonds in the Tribune, I discovered that government, municipalities or corporations of some 30 different countries were represented—countries scattered all over the world. T h e list included the countries of our own hemisphere, Canada, Cuba, Brazil, Argentine, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, Uruguay; nations abroad with whom we fought and against whom we fought, Great Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Austria, Hungary; governments in the Far East such as Japan and the Dutch East Indies; and cities as widely separated as Copenhagen and Montevideo, Tokio and Marseilles. The contemplation of the extent and variety of America's investment in foreign bonds, gives rise to three questions: W h o buys these bonds? W h y do they buy them? What do they get when they have bought them? Who buys foreign bonds? This may seem to be an easy question to answer, but it is not. When a foreign loan is offered to American investors, the managing house in New York, or Boston, or Chicago enlists the cooperation of perhaps five hundred or a thousand investment bankers scattered all over the United States. It is the function of the local investment banker to find the man or woman with savings and to show that man that it is to his interest to exchange his savings for the promise of a foreign government. It is this ultimate saver who really extends the credit to the foreign government. The managing house rarely meets the ultimate buyer of the bonds; it is to the five hundred or thousand investment houses that we must go to find his name and characteristics. These investment houses have developed their own clientele of investors. T h a t clientele is changing constantly, dependent upon the character and the ability of the investment house and*the record for successful judgment that it has established. Moreover, it is considered somewhat impertinent for one to ask an investment house to whom the bonds are sold, as such information is carefully guarded. The local investment bankers have tried to teach certain people to save, and they expect to attract the future savings of these people by selling them more bonds. They do not want investigators prying into that part of their business without a very good reason. In the summer of 1024 when I was asked to speak at Williamstown at the Institute of Politics, I tried to find an answer to this question of who buys foreign bonds. Taking two recent foreign government loans t the issue of which had been managed by the firm of which I have the honor to be a member, we inquired of three investment houses doing business in different parts of the country as to the number of persons to whom thev had sold these bonds. The loans were the $25,000,000 Austrian Government guaranteed loan and the $150,000,000 I m perial Japanese Government external loan of 1924. T h e results of our inquiry showed that through these three houses 409 people participated in the Austrian loan, the average investment of these 4 0 9 people being 52,350. Through the same three houses, 1,741 people participated in the Japanese loan, the average investment of these 1,741 people being $3,100. The results of the inquiry as presented to the students of international relations a t Williamstown seemed to be of interest, and later in 1924, at the request of the president of the Investment Bankers Association, we extended the inquiry 151 152 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES to 24 houses (still covering only the Austrian and Japanese loans, however). This investigation confirmed, in a general way, the results of the earlier one. For one thing, it disposed of the idea that offerings of foreign bonds are taken solely by wealthy individuals or large institutions. It showed, on the contrary, that these foreign bonds are being bought by large numbers of persons of moderate means. The 24 houses had 2,965 customers who made an average investment of $2,994 each in the Austrian bonds. The 24 houses had 8,211 customers who bought Japanese bonds, making an average investment of S3,905 each. Finally in the spring of 1926, we broadened the inquiry by obtaining a similar analysis of their sales of three additional foreign government loans. The results of the earlier inquiries might perhaps be subject to criticism by statisticians, because they covered so few bond issues and because, particularly as to the first inquiry, so small a " s a m p l e " of the investment houses which distributed the loans, was taken. But in this: latest inquiry five loans aggregating $380,000,000 were covered. Moreover, the 24 houses sold an aggregate amount of $91,031,800 of these five issues, or about 25 per cent of the total amount. These 24 investment houses who courteously furnished us with the sales analysis which we sought are located in different parts of the country from Portland, Me., to Portland, Oreg., and from Minneapolis to New Orleans. From our own knowledge of the character and distributing ability of the investment houses of the country, we feel reasonably confident that these houses selected for analysis constitute a fairly representative cross section of the entire group of investment houses throughout the country. Our analysis of the sales of these 24 houses covered five separate foreign government loans, the issue of which was managed by J. P. Morgan & Co., alone or with associates. These loans were offered to the American public within the past three and one-half years: The $25,000,1)00 Austrian 7"s in June, 1923, the 5150,000,000 Japanese 6J£'s in February, 1924, the $110,000,000 German 7's in October, 1924, the $45,000,000 Argentine 6's in June, 1925, and the $50,000,000 Belgian 7's in June, 1925. The results of this inquiry are shown in the table printed on the following page. This table shows, first, the proportion of each issue sold by the 24 houses. Nest, is shown the total number of sales and the total amount sold of each issue by the 24 houses, and the average amount of each sale made b y the 24 houses. If we may assume that these houses constitute an adequate " sample," we may extend these figures to cover the entire amount of each issue and obtain the following results: Distribution of five foreign government bond issues by $4 representative American bond houses $150,000,000' Japanese $110,000,0001 GovernGerman ment externa! external loan 7 per loan 6H percent percent bonds bonds October, hands, 1921 June, 1923' February, 2924 $25,000,0001 Austrian Government guaranteedloan 7 per cent Proportion of entire issue sold by the 24 bouses per cent.. Total sales: Number o! sales number.. Amount sold * dollars.. Average amount of each sale do Sales $100 to $5,000: Number of sales .-..number.. Per cent of total number....per cent.. Amount sold......dollars.. Per cent of total amount.. ..per cent.. Sales $5,100 to $10,000; Number of sales....... number.. Per cent of total number per cent.. Amount so!d.__ . ...dollars.. Per cent of total amount per cent, Sales over $10,000: Number of sales .number.. Per cent of total number number.. Amount sold.-L . . ^.....dollars.. Per cent of total amountper cent.. i Part of a larger international loan. 35.5 21.4 115,000,000 Govern* ment of the Argentine Nation external 6 per cent June, 1925 33.0 2,965 8,211 7,654 3.43! 8,876,800 32,269,200 24,428,300 14,872,500 2,994 3,905 3.194 4,335 2,671 6.052 7,265 9a 1 88.4 90.9 5,579,900 14,170, &00 13*099,900 412 62.9 53.6 2,724 79.4 6,351,500 42*7 600 7.4 5,305,300 1615 433 5.6 Zrbii.m 15.8 532 15.5 4,132.500 27.8 346 87 3.0 4.2 1,533,000 12,633,100 17.3 30.3 3.5 7,481,000 30.6 175 5.1 4,388,600 29.5 207 6.9 1,761,900 19.8 153 SALE OF FOREIGN B O N D S Oil S E C U R I T I E S Distribution of f.ve foreign government bond issues by 24 representative bond houses—Continued Xame of issue Belgian 7's. American Indicated total number of buyers Indicated average amount of cach snle 8,350 38,412 34,440 10,3S1 13,130 $2,944 3,905 3,194 4,335 3,80S The Above figures confirm those of the earlier inquiries as to the large number of sales made und the moderate average amount of each sale. The table opposite next shows a classification of the sales of the 24 houses into three groups according to the size of the sale made. T h a t we arc dealing with a multitude of small investors rather than with a few large investors is further demonstrated by this classification of the sales. It will be seen that from 80 to 90 per cent of the number of sales in the case of each issue were made to investors whose purchases were limited to $5,000 or less. Only from 3 to 5 per cent of the number of sales for cach issue were made in amounts over $10,000. It is clear that in number the large investors were relatively unimportant. But the consideration of only the number of small and large investors might present an exaggerated impression of the importance of the small investor. This is unnecessary, as he is quite important enough without any exaggerating. There is, obviously, a difference between a comparison of the number of small and large investors and a comparison of the aggregate amounts purchased by each group. The number of small investors might be very great but a few very large sales might still result in making the large investor the more important factor in disposing of an issue. Our analysis of the wiles of the 24 investment houses also covered, therefore, the aggregate amount of bonds sold to investors in each of the three groups, from which could be ascertained the ratio which the aggregate amounts sold in each of the groups bore to the total amounts of each issue sold by the 24 houses. Examining them, we see that a good deal depends upon where the line is placed between the small and the large investor. If we draw the line at S5,000 it is apparent that, while the group of large investors taking more than $5,000 each is relatively small in number, it is by no menus negligible with regard to its aggregate purchases of foreign loans. Comparing the two groups, both on the basis of number of buyers and on the basis of the total amounts of the issues purchased, we have the following summary from the figures: Name of issue Austrian 7 V . . . Japanese German Argentine 6's... Belgian 7'b.* Percent the Per cent of total of the amount of total issue number tbe purof buyers chased who took by buyers $5,000 or who took less $5,000 or less Pit cent Per cent 62.9 90.1 44.2 88.4 90.9 53.6 79.4 42.7 86.6 51.4 I present all these statistics with some hesitation because they necessarily are based upon a method of sampling and I well realize how difficult it is to obtain representative samples for any statistical work, and how difficult it is to draw proper conclusions from such samples without danger of distortion. Having 154 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES made such reservations, however, it would seem reasonable to draw the conclusion from the statistics presented, that more than 85 per cent of the people who bought these foreign bonds purchased them in small amounts ranging from $100 to $5,000, and that approximately 50 per cent of the total amount of these foreign issues was purchased by these small investors. The investment in these foreign loans represents the savings of the person who spends less than he produces, and thus creates a fund which he is able to turn over either to a domestic or to a foreign borrower if he is satisfied with that borrowers promise. These savers live all over the United States. When wc talk about the person who is investing in foreign bonds we are not talking about a great institution in New York or Chicago, or Boston. We are talking about thousands of people living in all parts of the United States. We are talking about school teachers and army officers and country doctors and stenographers and clerks. The man who invests in a foreign bond may be rich or he may be poor. That is all according to our standard. Fundamentally, however, he is a person who has saved something, who is doing without something to-day in order that he or his childien may have something to-morrow. Before he in vests in the bond he has money which gives him a present command over good** and services. He is willing to transfer this present command over goods and services to the borrower, thereby giving to the borrower the right to buy goods and services. Of course, the investor resumes the command of goods and services at some future time when he is repaid his loan. The person who invests in foreign bonds is probably the same person who invests in domestic bonds. All that the investment banker in a large city or in a small city does, all that an international banker does, is to gather up little rivulets of savings and put them at the disposition of somebody who needs the capital and is willing to make a dependable promise to pay interest upon that borrowed capital from time to time and to repay the principal at the due date. The answer to the question about who buys foreign bonds is clear. The purchasers are people all over the United States who are investing their savings. If the investment in these bonds is helping American foreign trade, it is this saver of money who should be thanked. If the investment in these bonds is helping the restoration of the rest of the world to a normal condition, it is this sav*r of money who is entitled to the credit. Now, the second question, why did these people lend money to Austria, or Japan, or Germany, or Argentine, or Belgium? Here, statistics are of little value. Men have not yet found a method of measuring the motives of other men. In fact, it is difficult enough to know our own motives. Perhaps, however, we may be helped in answering our question if we ask another question. Why docs anybody make an investment in one particular security rather than in another? The considerations in the minds of most investors are, first, the safety of the principal and, second, the size of the interest yield. It should be borne in mind that the investor is the man who has done without something. He has done without something that he might have presently enjoyed in order that, in the future, his family may have some protection when he is gone, or in order, perhaps, that a son or a daughter may go to college. This investor wants to be certain that he will continue to receive income on the bond which he buys. He wants that income as large as is consistent with safety. Above all, he wants the principal returned to him on the day of the maturity of the bond. It can not be asserted, however, that sentiment plays no part in our investments. It does. Many men in this country bought German bonds, after the successful launching of the Dawes plan, not only because the interest rate was attractive and the principal seemed secure, but because they felt that they were thus associating themselves in a fine venture to help Europe back on her feet. But after all proper weight is given to such considerations as these, the question of safety of principal and of interest, and the attractiveness of the rate of interest, remain the considerations uppermost in the mind of a man who has done without the present use of his own money and is investing that money in order to protect the future of himself and of his family. If that be true, how is the investor to form an intelligent judgement as to the safety of his investment? How does the man in the Middle West, who responds to an invitation from his investment banker to buy an Austrian or a Japanese bond, know that his investment is safe? If he should be asked this question, I think that he would put in the very forefront of his reasons for making the investment the fact that he had confidence in the banker who offered him the investment. After all, the people who buy bonds must rely largely upon the judgment of the offering houses. They must believe that their investment banker'Would SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 155 not offer them the bonds unless the banker believed them to be safe. This throws a heavy responsibility upon the banker. He may and does make mistakes. There is no way that he can avoid making mistakes l>ecausc he is human and because in this world things are only relatively secure. There is no such thing as absolute security. But while the" banker may make mistakes, he must never make the mistake of offering investments to his clients which he does not believe to be good. Moreover, when a banker directs savings into an investment he should believe that the borrowed money is to be put to a constructive use. To the cynic that may sound somewhat idealistic. It is, however, just plain common sence. No banker who wants to stay in business throughout the years wants to lend money to people who arc not going to use it for a constructive purpose. The use to which the money is put is a very important factor in determining the ability of the borrower to pay his interest promptly and to return, at maturity, the principal. An attempt has been made to answer the first two questions: Who buys these foreign bonds and why do thev buy them? There remains what is perhaps the most interesting question: What does an investor get when lie buys a foreign bond? In 1024, 40 persons in a western city put $100 apiece into a Japanese bond maturing in 1054. What did those people get for their money? They got a promise. And mark you, that promise was the promise of a group of people associated together on "the other side of the earth. Moreover, so far as the promise relates to the payment of the principal of the bond, the promise does not mature in time to be kept by the particular members of the group who originally made it. It is a promise designed to be kept by the children of men now living. Yet somehow or other the banker who offers that bond and the investor who buys that bond rely upon the j>eople of Japan taxing themselves a generation from now in order to pay back the principal of that loan to the children of the person who invests in the bonds to-day. At first blush it is a startling idea. It is particularly startling at this time when so many people are saying that the various nations of the earth have lost faith in each other. Here we have printed in a middle western newspaper the record of the day's dealings in 128 foreign bond issues. Individuals, in America are taking their own money, with its present command over goods and services, and surrendering that command to nations on the other side of the earth, and they receive in exchange for it a promise. The question may be asked: Nothing more than a promise? T o which answer may be made: Nothing less than a promise. I remember reading some vears ago a letter of Thomas Bailey Aldrich written to William Dean Howells. Aldrich is writing of a friend who has just died, and whose body is resting in " a dismal London burying ground." He says to Howells that it is not worth three pins to be a great novelist or a great general or a great anything else. Then he winds up his letter witn this whimsical expression: 11 Yet with a sort of hopeful vivacity I have just bought two 5 per cent railway bonds that expire in 1967. Who will be cutting off the coupons long before that? Not I . " There was Aldrich, despondent because of the transitoriness of life, taking his savings and putting them in railway bonds that matured long after his life would end. Every day investors arc buying bonds, domestic and foreign, although thev have every reason to wonder who will collect the coupons. Human lives stop. Promises go on. The civilized world today is run on the basis of a belief in promises. Whatever our doubts about the meaning of modern divilization, we may at least take some comfort in the trust which men show in each other's promises. It was not alwavs so. Early trading began with physical things. The man who had something to sell kept a tight hold with one hand upon the thing he was giving up until he got a tight hold with the other hand upon the thing he was getting in exhange for it. Little by little men learned to trust one another. Markets were developed in which men sold by samples. In such a sale the seller must produce a sample of the thing which he is contracting to seil; the quantity agreed to be sold is later delivered and the buyer makes payment therefor. Mutual promises had to be kept to make such a trade effective. Finally, we have reached the stage of civilization when we buy and sell promises. No man can play an important part in modern commercial civilization unless he respects his promises in letter and in spirit. That is true in all of our day to day transactions. W e want no commercial dealings with people who can not or will not keep their promises. The keeping of the promise is the fundamental virtue of commercial life. Therefore, when one says that the purchaser of a foreign bond has nothing more than a promise, the answer can be made in all seriousness that he has nothing less than a promise. SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES 156 I t is apparently believed by some that loans to foreign governments made by our citizens throw upon our own Government the responsibility of using the armed forces of our Government for the purpose of collecting the debts. From leading government officials of both Great Britain and the United States we have had in recent years quite clear pronouncements upon this question. In a debate in the British Parliament in December, 1902, during the controversy with Venezuela, Mr. Balfour, the Prime Minister at the time, said: " I do not deny, in fact I freely admit, that bondholders may occupy an international position which may require international action: but I look upon such action with the gravest doubt and suspicion, and I doubt whether wc have in the past ever gone to war for the bondholders, for those of our countrymen who have lent money to a foreign government; and I confess that I should be very sorry to see that made a practice in this country-" Mr. Hoot, then Secretary of State, speaking in Buenos Aired in 1906. made the following statement: ' " T h e United States of America has never deemed it to be suitable that she should use her Army and Navy for the collection of ordinary contract debts of foreign governments to her citizens. For more than a century the State Department, the Department of Foreign Relations of the United States of America, has refused to take such action, and that has become the settled policy of our country. W e deem it to be inconsistent with that respect for the sovereignty of weaker powers which is essential to their protection against the aggression of the strong. W e deem the use of force for the collection of ordinary contract debts to be an invitation to abuses in their necessary results far worse, far more baneful to humanity than that the debts contracted by any nation should go unpaid." The foregoing expressions of Mr. Balfour and Mr. Root are important not only because of the high official positions that these eminent statesmen held at the time but also because of the great weight which properly attaches to their personal opinions upon a question of this kind. But however valuable such expressions may be, either as a statement of the national thought at the time or as a means of influencing the public thought of the peoples to whom they arc addressed, such expressions do not necessarily constitute international law or even a binding rule of conduct. The declarations of statesmen are perhaps more likely to express the ideals than the practices of nations. International law, however, is a gradual growth, based upon custom and conduct. When customs become so well settled that their violation excites the general disapproval of civilized men, we have a real basis for international law. Now, he who seeks to know the custom of nations with respect to the enforcement of contract debts against another government enters a most difficult field. It is hardly surprising that the causes of war are never fully known to the actors. But the long, painstaking work that must be done by unbiased historians before an approximation of the truth can be ascertained must make any candid person almost despair of a complete conviction as to causes. I have not been able to find a clear case of a nation going to war for bondholders. I t is only fair to say, however, that contract claims against a foreign government have often been joined with claims for other injuries, or with larger questions of political policy, and that so joined they have been made the basis of armed intervention. I have immediately in mind the military operations against Mexico in 1861, against Egypt in 1880, and against Venezuela in 1902.1 I have neither the competence nor the desire, however, to discuss from the point of view of the international lawyer or the historian this alleged practice of using armed force to collect contract debts. A difference will readily be noted in the treatment of claims arising out of injuries inflicted upon persons or upon their physical properties and claims growing out of contracts. Where the wrongful act of a foreign government inflicts injury upon a person or upon his physical property, the law of nations seems to recognize the propriety of a demand for reparation. Contract claims, however, have not been treated in the same way, though nations have on occasion made official and unofficial representations regarding violations of contracts and failure or refusal to pay bonded indebtedness. They have also broken off diplomatic relations with the delinquent countrv as a means of enforcing payment. Nations have also repeatedly submitted bond claims to arbitration. They have also, in rare cases, used measures of force short of war* such as reprisals and that curious procedure known as pacific blockade. President l i f r . TTftrtflfV Withers, fartnprlv oriitvir fit tha Tsmrtnn Pmnnni'tt anru>«ntl«l^lu...ji th* rift&uit is in my belief that they might have whistled for their money until the crack of dooff that their their ruaime p.mrnMl In with Tmtidnal nnlinv » I n t m a t ^ A i viMtnn* /taiRi. t>. ur SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 157 Jackson, in 1834, in conncction with certain damage claims not related to bond obligations, actually recommended reprisals. And in 1902 Great BritianGermany, and Italy enforced certain demands against Venezuela, which included the payment of bond obligations, by a pacific blockade. The advancing interest of civilized governments in this whole question is evidenced by the action taken at the Second Hague Peace Conference in 1907. That conference adopted a Convention respecting the limitation of the employment of force in the recovery ot contract debts the pertinent part of which reads as follows: " T h e contracting powers agree not to have recourse to armed force for the recovery of contract debts claimed from the government of one country by the government of another country as being due its nationals. " T h i s undertaking is, however, not applicable when the debtor State refuses or neglects to reply to an offer of arbitration, or after accepting the offer prevents any 'compromise' from being agreed on, or, after the arbitration, fails to submit to the award." This convention seems to assume that there was a right to use armed force to collect contract debts before the adoption of the convention. Certainly, if Mr. Root is correct, no such right was ever cxercised by the United States. What is perhaps more important, the second paragraph seems to imply that a formerly existing right to use force to collect contract debts is still to survive if and when the specified conditions are applicable. It is not surprising, therefore, that very general^ the Latin-American countries in adhering to the convention made reservations which neaatived their consent to the use of armed force against them even though the conditions of the second paragraph had come into existence. Although some critics of this convention have questioned whether the subject was left in an entirely satisfactory situation, there can be no doubt that the delegates to the convention were earnestly seeking to put some limitation upon the use of armed force which had not been accepted by all nations theretofore. I am writing, however, from the point of view of the investor. Investors, as much as any group of people in the community, are interested in seeing the Colicy announced by Mr. Hoot in 1906 scrupulously carried on. Investors who uy foreign loans are in a position to appreciate what a fruitless remedy for breach of contract war is. The establishment of the principle that nations are justified in going to war where the sole issue is the collection of a debt would be not only most hurtful to the nation at large, but, in the long run, would prove injurious to the property interests of the bankers who sell and the investors who buy foreign government loans. Is there any one who thinks that if a man owes him money and can not pay it, there is profit in going out and killing the debtor? Entirely apart from the immorality of putting human lives to the hazard of modern war where the sole issue is a pecuniary claim, there is a conclusive practical reason against such a source in that war in the great majority of cases does not, and can not, accomplish the desired result. Loans are made to foreign governments in reliance upon the capacity and the good faith of those governments. The intelligent investor recognizes that in the long run a government which defaults upon its obligations hurts itself even more than it hurts its creditors. Even in cases where specific taxes or customs are allocated for the service of a loan, the main reliance of the creditor must be upon the desire of the debtor government to maintain the particular revenues and keep them available. Even when a foreign expert is placed in charge of revenues, the arrangement is helpful only when made with the hearty concurrence of the debtor government, and with the belief and expectation on the part of the debtor government that the fiscal arrangement will redound to its own advantage. If the foregoing be true, how safe are these investments? To my mind that inquiry is much the same as an inquiry as to the safety of a domestic bond Some domestic bonds turn out to be good and some turn out to be worthless. There is no reason to expect that it will be otherwise with foreign bonds. Those nations who arc borrowing in America because they actually need the money for a constructive purpose; who have a solidarity of national feeling and a sense of the meaning and the value of national credit; who are not incurring obligations beyond what may fairly be considered their capacity to handle; all those nations may be expected to pay their debts. Here again the responsibility rests heavily upon the investment banker in recommending investments. The banker must never be lured, eithe^by the desire for profit or by the desire for reputation, to recommend an investment which he does not believe to be good. But, fundamentally, the reliance of bankers and investors is upon the capacity and, above all, upon the good faith of the foreign government. The foreign government must be able to pay, and it must want to pay* 9292&-31—*rl 11 158 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES If it is true that it is upon good faith that lenders to foreign governments primarily rely, it is no less true that it is upon good faith that lenders rely in almost all of their domestic dealings. Of course, there is a sanction ultimately applicable to domestic contracts. The proper legal steps may be taken; the breach of the contract may be proved; and execution may be issued through the sheriff. But we do not in practice put much reliance upon the help of a sheriff in enforcing contracts. We do not willingly deal with one upon whose property we expect to levy execution. When we need the sheriff to help collect a loan, we recognize that our venture has turned out a failure. W e are then simply trying to save some planks from a shipwreck. In the overwhelming majority of business transactions, we rely upon the ability and the willingness of the debtor to pay. On no other principle could modern business be conducted. There is no international sheriff. ' But there still remains our reliance upon good faith, our reliance upon that law which is older than statute law—the acknowledged custom of mankind. The credit of governments is not easily built up. It may easily be shattered. And it must never be forgotten that there are rules of conduct accepted by the silent approval of civilized man, the breach of which hurts the one committing the breach much more than the one against whom it is committed. If good faith can not be relied upon it is better that the loan be not made. The words with which Hugo Grotius closed his great book more than 300 years ago are true: " N o t only is each commonwealth kept together by good faith, but that greater society of which nations are the members. If faith be taken away, the intercourse of men is abolished." Foreign governmentbonds, J. P . Morgan A Co. Name of Date of issue government Titte of Issue )' Amount Amount of outstanding issue Dec. 16* 1031 DisNumber Number tributing NumNumbei of par- syndicate of parber of Total of par- Inter- ticipants ticipants particicomcomManag- pants Original ticipants in such in such mission mising in such gtoup in surtt mediate Issue interdisgroup (from sion original com- manag- comprice com- mediate which I'ibuting group or mission mission ing group syndicate mission exrenses comspread comcomcomare demission mission ducted) mission mission /Vr cent Noitc. None. 1 2 None. None. 2 757 3 IM ? None. None. 2 «S2 m IM 2 None. None. 2 527 VA None. m 2 None. None. 2 cir None. None. m 2 None. None. 2 r>23 3H /Vr cent None. None. Sept. 22,102A None. None. None. None. None. None. None. Apr. 32,1926 Sept, 30,1926 Jan. H. 1027 Apr. 28, 1927 July 16, 1925 Aug. 24,1027 May 8,1928 June 11,1923 July JtUic 1,1U20 JftU, 24,1921 Hept. % 1924 Dec. 18.1024 June 11,1925 6 per cent bonds duo June $45,000,000 $41,735,500 00 L 1950, 6 per ccnt bonds due Oct. 29,700,000 27,42a 500 96H do 1,1959. 0 per cent bonds due May 20.000,000 18,508.000 OJi .—do. 1. i m 10,900,000 15.83G. 0 per ccnt bonds due Oct. do mi 1,1060. 0 per rent bonds due Feb. 27,000,000 25,548,000 08 M lt 1961. do... 19,997,000 00 6 per cent bonds due May 21,200,000 1, 1001, 73,068,000 75,000,000 Australia 5 per cent bonds due July 00H 15,1935. do.., 5 per cent bonds due Sept. 40,000,000 38,345,000 08 lf 1957. 50,000,000 49,73S,000 mi ,4H per cent bonds due May U 1056. 17,950,100 00 25,000,000 7 per cent bonds due June Austria 1, 1943, do. . . . . . 7 per cent bonds due July 25,000,000. 21,279,000 05 1, 10.17. 97m 50, 000,000 Belgium (') 7J$ per cent bonds due June WW. 100 (') 8 per cent bonds due Feb. 00,000,000 1 1941. 30,000,000 26,737,000 04 do fiji tier cent bonds due Sept. 1,1919. do — A per cent bonds duo Jan. 50,000,000 37,871,100 87*$ 1,195.1. do - 7 per cent bonds due June 50,000,000 46,292,000 08 1,1955. —- See footnotes at end of table. JVr cent 2 Vj 2 iillte 2, 1025 Argentina. per cent M 7*2 Per cent 1 m h 1 % 3 14 125 Hi 801 3 H 1 H 3 H 124 m 820 H 1 H 3 h 14 n* 90! None. None. IH 137 None. None. 3 773 4\i 2H H 1 11 1 134 2 721V 4 None, None. 1 4 1 ik 4 hf.2 None. None. i 4 1 ik 4 720 Ho 2 1 5 hn 22 2^ g.w 4 4 h 34 3 m 4h 4 H 34 2>4 840 4 "Mooo H H 2 2 M « (i Cn CO Foreign government bonds, J, P. Morgan <fc Co.—Continued Name of Date of Issue government Title of Issue NumNumber ber of of parparticiAmount Manag- pants Original ticipants Amount of outstanding Issue ing in such group In such price com- manag- comIssue Dee. 15, original mission ing 1931 mission group comcommission mission Percent Per cent 2 H 7 per cent bonds due Nov. $50,000,000 $47,890,500 94 H 1, 1056. None. None. i Canada.... 5 per cent bonds duo May 1001000,000 100,000,000 100 H 1,1052. 93®9ioo None. None. 2,498,000 Manitoba.. 6 per cent bonds due Feb. O H 1,1930. 2,850,000 95«Moo None. None. l«Wooo 6 per cent notes due Apr. V) 1. 1925. 99 None. None. 1 S per cent bonds duo Feb. 21.0CK), 000 ,'ChfIe <*> 1,19U. None. None. «Moo Cuba.—.... tyi per cent bonds duo Jan. 50,000,000 26,452,500 99}i lflOM. 5,400,000 101.122 •Jiooo 9.000,000 1 "Hooo ....do 5J$ per cent bonds July t, 1928-1037 (1900,000 duo annually). 100 None. None. 1 A per cent bonds due Sept. 100,000,000 France— <>) 15t 1945. None. None. M 7H per cent bonds due 100,000,000 60,805,500 95 ....do.... Juno 1,1941. 2 H 7 per cent bonds due Dec. 100,000,000 70,740,900 04 M ....do.... l t 1949. 1 H 7 per cent bonds duo Oct. 1101000,000 76,759,400 92 M Germnny. 16. 1949. 1 n per cent bonds duo 93,250,000 95,670,500 90 M .do... June 1.1WW. "Mooo 1 "Mooo 7 per ixtnt bonds duo Dec. 100,000,000 89,270,100 « H Italy...... 1.1951. Credit consortium: 2,819,000 mi 4,500; 000 .....do 7 per cent bonds due M«r. 1,1937. 1 lHo 6,580,000 95)i 7,500,000 7 per cent bonds due Mar. 1,1917. 1 2 1977 Roma M 6)4 per cent bonds due 30,000,000 | 27.442,500 91 w * Apr. 1, \W2. 4 Belgium... Mat 6 Per cent H 13 Per cent 2J* m Percent 4 H 32 5 None. None. m 2 (?) 2H 6 None. None. IH (?) 2»«9<ooo 6 None. None. 4 GOO 5 8 None. Nono. 2 813 2«Moo 1 None. None. 90*1 m 110 l"Mooo 36 4 756 6 50 4 971 6 1 123 3 958 & 10 iM 146 3 1,094 6 11 M 145 m 1,011 4 3 H 127 3 935 4H 3 None. None. 2)5 290 4 2 742 4 4 4 4 • DisNumber Number tributing of parof parTotal Inter- ticipants syndicate ticipants comcommediate in such mission in such misintergroup dis(from tributing sion com- mediate which or mission group expenses syndicate spread comcomare demission ducted) mission 3 1 M 1 2ft Feb. U.J024 Japan.. 1 OH per cent bonds due t 150,000,00013^093,300 1 92h / Feb. I, 105#. I AfAy 1030 do - . J 5H bonds due May 1, lOfttJ »50,000,000 71.000,000 Nov. 23.1K6 Yokohama--) fl per cent bonds due Dec. I 19,74a 000 77*000 s Mar. JTM027 Tolrfo f UHHJ. I 5}i pet cent bonds due f Oct. 1,1001. I June Iftlt Taiwan. . . . . Electric Power Co. SM per cent bonds due July I, 107J. Auy. 1,1023 Bwijzerland. A per cent notes due Aug. 1,19%. Apr. 1,10*4 . . . d o , . . . &H per rent bonds due Apr. 1* 1910. 2 a m 000 23.«»i000 20.000,000 10.437,000 mi 22, MX), C00 »03H 0 30,000.000 •07H 30.000.000 4 i H H Uo lit None, He ft 125 1 a 2t« 214 000 A 805 4 0A3 4 t l H n 6 n 02 10 1 *Ho & H 10 2 540 3b 6 H 13 2 30ft 3H 0 None. None, JH 265 2M None. None. 3H m 1 None. 2 n •Jit 7 3H * Redeemed, * in addition to the 000,000. I Jowls publicly offer*! $21,000,000. Bonds wern e\chan»d forftrrmmtof the original group for £3.Sfl0.e*W. fcomts of tlw 4 prr crnt sterling loan due Jan. 1, m i , under the control of the Imtwrial Japanese Govrrnment. In rtspcet or the *21,OOQ.OOf>. Bonds eichangrd. the total commission waa reducrd from 4 to 2 H per rent. Olylng effect to this exchange for account of I he original group, the total managing commission amounted to " J i m per cent and the total original group eommtuton amounted to per cent. * Percent. SUMMARY Government and municipalities: Argentina .... Austria.--. Australia.... Belgium .. ...... Canada......;... Chile... .... Cabe-...,.-....... .... Franco...... * Germany Great Britain-.........*.. ... „ . Principal amount of ofo™1 $150,800,000 60,000.000 1WWOOOO . OO mcoo.ooo 105.34^ ono 24,000,000 60,000.000 300.000.000 250,000 None. Principal amount of Government and municipalities-Continued: Italy-. " Japan.*... Spain Sw (tier land- * Total-.. Retired to Dec. Outstanding Dec. 16,1031 $142,000,000 2*4.1*0,000 None. SO. OOP, (300 1.807,578*000 4:b,280. 100 * * 1.3*0,207,000 o> SALE OF FOItEIGN BONDS OH SECURITIES 162 Partners in the firm of J. P. Morgan & Co., December 21, 1931: J. P. Morgan, Edward T. Stotesbury, Charles Steele, Thomas W, Lamont, Horatio G. Lloyd, Thomas Cochran, Junius Spencer Morgan, jr., George Whitney, Russell Cornell Leffingwell, Francis D. Bartow, Arthur M. Anderson, William Ewing, Harold Stanley, Henry Sturgis Morgan, Thomas Stilwell Lamont, Henry Pomeror Davison, Thomas Newhall, Edward Hopkinson, jr., and Seymour Parker Gilbert. The following were participants in the original group on the issue of $100,000,000 Government of the French Republic 26-year external gold loan 8 per cent sinking fund bonds dated September 15, 1920: J. P. Morgan i Co.; Brown Bros. <fc Co.; First National Bank, New York; the National City Co. The combined list of the original group, except Austrian, comprised thefirmsof J. P. Morgan <fc Co.; Bank of Montreal; Bankers Trust Co.: Brown Bros. & Co.; Chase Securities Coiporation; Credit Suisse; Dillon, Read & Co.; First National Bank, New York; First National Bank of Boston; Guaranty Co. of New York; Harris, Forbes & Co.; Kidder, Peabody & Co.; Kuhn, Loeb £ Co.: Lee,Higginson & Co.; Morgan, Harjes & Co.; the National City Co.; J. & W . Seligman £ Co.; Yokohama Specie Bank, (Ltd.). THE NATIONAL CITT BAXK OF N E W YORK, New York, December 22, 1031* MY DEAR SENATOR SMOOT: When on Wednesday last you telephoned asking me to appear before your committee two days later to test if v on the Johnson resolution, I immediately requested the officers of the City Co. to prepare for me statements of all of our foreign issues. The force in the National City Co. worked day and night, and the long schedules which I had with me before" your committee were handed to me as I caught my train for Washington. 1 had no opportunity to question the accountants who prepared these schedules as to what was meant by expenses of each issue. The reports that I was accustomed to have come over mv desk as to the profit to the City Co. on an issue of bonds contained an item of gross profit, an item of expense directly allocable to the issue, and an item showing the net profit. I, therefore, assumed that in the schedules handed me the deduction for expenses represented items such as those I testified to, directly chargeable against the particular issue, and did not include the general expenses of the National City Co. I took the item of "general expense" on the schedules to be an item representing the City Co.'s portion o» the expenses directly applicable to each issue. To-day I have been checking up these figures and I find that I w as in error in my testimony. The accountants had deducted from the gross profit figure the items of expense directly chargeable to each particular issue and the column headed "General expenses" represented an attempt on the part of the accountants to allocate to the issue a proportion of the genera! expenses of the City CoThere is, of course, no method of accounting which would show with absolute accuracy exactly how much of the general expense of the National City Co, should be borne by any particular issue of bonds. An effort was made by the accountants to determine some basis of allocating expenses by taking the total general expenses of the company and dividing them by the total number of bond* sold during the year, thus fixing an arbitrary average cost per bond sold. If vou will refer to the schedules I have given the committee and take the column headed "Gross profit" of the National City Co. and deduct therefrom the succeeding column headed "discounts" the remainder will show the pijjf* of the National City Co. before general expenses of the National City Co. testimony at the hearing is applicable to this remainder and should not be app»ie0 to the last column headed " N e t profit." ^ I wish therefore to correct my testimony by requesting that this letter Inserted as a part of the record of my hearing before your committee. Very trulv yours, C. E; MlTCHEttH o n . REED SMOOT, Chairman Finance Committee, United States Senatef Washington, £>. C* Syndicates managed by others Maturity Sinking fund Cost payments prico to date Offering j prico Juno % 1925 $45,000,000.00 Sept. 22,1925 29.700,000.00 Apr. 23,1926 20,000,000.00 Sept. 30,192G 16,900,000.00 Jan. 14,1927 27,000,000.00 Apr. 28,1927 21,200,000.00 50,000,000.00 Government of tho Argentino Nation treasury notes..Apr. 10,1930 June 1,1959 Oct. 1,1959 Mar 1,1960 Oct. 1, i960 Fclfc 1,1961 Maf 1,1961 Oct. 1,1930' $3,264,500.00 2,279,500.00 1,402,000.00 1,063,500.00 1,452,000.00 1,203,000.00 20,000,000.00 J. P. Morgan & Co Commonwealth of Australia extension lain, G. B_July 20,1925 Aug. 24,1927 Commonwealth of Australia extension loan.. May 8,1928 Juno 3,1930 . City of Brisbano, s"F. "6. B .. 75,000,000.00 40,000,000.00 50,000,000.00 5,000,000.00 July 15,1955 1,000,000.00 Sept. 1,1957 1,655,000.00 May 1,1956 262,000.00 June 1, 100,000.00 J. P^Morgan & Co June 11,1923 July 15,1930 25,000,000.00 25,000,000.00 June 1,1943 July 1, *— Jan. 13,1920 June 2,1920 Jan. 24,1921 Sept. 2,1921 Dec. 18,1921 Juno 12,1925 Oct. 26,1920 25,000,000.00 50,000.000.00 30,000,000.00 30,000,000.00 50,000,000.00 50,000,000.00 50,000,000.00 /Jan. 1,1921 (l) (Jan. 1,1925 (') June i, 1945 Feb. 1,1941 (<) Sept. 1,19-19 2,900,000.00 Jan. 1,1955 10,600,000.00 June 1,1955 3,300,000.00 Nor. 1,1956 3,300,000.00 May 22,1926 June 21,1926 Oct. 13,1927 Stat?of Rio Qrande do Sui,~ S .*iVo." B - " " " " - - - J ! uly 11,1928 ' Stato of San Paulo, S. F. G. B Apr. 28,1930 CHILE Feb. 15,1921 Republic of Chile June 26,1925 Mortgage Bank of Chile July 30,1926 Do — Dec. 23,1926 Mortgago Bank of Chile (Agr. G. notes) May 1,1928 Mortgage Bank of Chile June 27,1929 Do 35,000,000.00 25,000,000.00 41,500,000.00 23,000,000.00 35,000,000.00 Oct. 1,1957 Oct 1,1957 {US Oct. 15,1957 1,791,000.00 June l, 1968s None. Oct. 1,1940 3,500,000.00 21,000,000.00 20, (KM), 000.00 20,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 20,000,000.00 20,000,000.00 Feb. 1,1941 («) June 30,1957 1,300,000.00 June 30,1961 1,300,000.00 Dec. 31,1931 None. Apr. 30,1961 600,000.00 400,000.00 May 1,1962 J. P. Morgan <fc Co.. 94H Kulin, Locb & Co.... do mi 989* 9554 ..do Apr. 1,1951 Oct. 1,1952 96H Kidder, Peabody Co.. 96 H Government of tho Argentine Nation extension S. P. G. B. Do. Argentine Government Government of tho Argentino Nation. Argentine Government . .1 interest of The National City Co. O. T. Int. Or. spread spread Intermediate group S.G. Banking group •' Selling group Number f retail sales spread Percent IX $22,300,000.00 14,850,000.00 10,000,000.00 8,450,000.00 13,500.000.00 10,600,000.00 Chatham IMienix Corporation. 18,750,000.00 15,000,000.00 18,750,000.00 1,875,000.00 Leo Iliggenson & Co— $5,355,000.00 3,345,000.00 3,000,000.00 2,750,000.00 3,860,000.00 3,510,000.00 137,500.00 105,625.00 151,875.00 145,750.00 70,312.50 $8,000,000.00 66,250.00 6,625,000.00 71,093.75 15,375,000.00 19,671.75 $47,370.33 $7,500,000.00 21,949.89 4,000,060.00 23,586.00 3,500,000.00 19,690,00 3,000,000.00 31,999.40 4,500,000.00 25,903.80 3,800,000.00 10,000.00 $93,600.00 38,840.00 35,000.00 30,000.00 44,960.00 37,600.00 18.75 $436,282.83 199,289.89 106.0S6.00 155,315.00 228,834.40 209,253.80 18.75 $32,967.91 $46,050.00 24,500.00 15,841.33 7,753. 75 21,245.00 18,210.00 23,575.00 24,210.06 16,688.84 20,444.00 9,731.84 167,087.25 113,530.00 187,935.50 179,077.96 8,000,000.00 5,100,000.00 2,500,000.00 1,209,000.00 52,912.50 37,792.50 18,675.00 22,515.00 196,530.07 155,212.80 187,536.87 50,796.75 19,100.50 -49,120.00 15,515.15 ' 27,438.00 10, 443.95 17,610.42 7,048.47 2,342.50 128,309.57 112,259.65 159,482.50 41,405.78 $10,000.00 5,235,000.00 33,125.00 3,305,000.00 67, 265.62 4,150,000.00 1,722,000.00 33,305.07 18,045.30 30,502.50 8,610.00 S9.S5 103,941.2 61,153.1 BELGIUM . Belgian Government extension, G. B , Kingdom of Belgium extension, G. B Do Do Do Do Do ... 95H 97K 100 BRAZIL United States of Brazil, G. B CZECHOSLOVAKIA Dillon. Reed & Co.. do do.. White Weld & Co... Speyer & Co 3,750,000.00 6,250,000.00 6,250,000.00 6,250,000.00 7,812.50 60,514.02 37,500.00 37,500.00 48,437.50 50,000.00 50,000.00 2,155,000.00 5,000,000.00 3,000,000.00 3,000,000.00 5,000,000.00 5,000,000.00 5,000,000.00 • 5,387.50 50,000.00 30,000.00 10,500.00 25,000.00 25,000.00 25,000. 00 240,000.00 3,000,000.00 1,500,000.00 1,500,000.00 3,000,000.00 3,000,000.00 3,000,000.00 67,320.00 31,875.00 12,798.00 46,950.00 33,900.00 28,320.00 691,000.00 1,907,000.00 4,640,500.00 1,814,000.00 2,400,000.00 3,500,000.00 4,000,000.00 3,700,000.00 47,305.00 66,460.62 28,780.00 30,000.00 38,387.50 47.300.00 46,250.00 62,089.00 244,294. 64 128.155.00 90,793.00 158,775.00 156,200.00 149,570.00 9.360.00 4,312.50 7,154.50 7.286.01 3,374.29 15,190.66 10,305.38 15,588.00 27,843.00 1,391.02 10,320.00 15,050.00 24,560.00 22,459.00 212,139.1' 119,608.51 73,191.91 140,350.7 110,449.3 116,805.6: 6,562,500.00 4,687,500.00 7,781,250.00 8,625,000.00 5,308,333.00 119,128.01 135,216.61 152,152.91 8,915.28 91,528.73 6,000,000.00 3,500,000.00 5,500,000.00 6,937,500.00 28,250.00 17,500.00 20,625.00 17.343.75 5,000,000.00 2,800,000.00 5,500,000.00 5,229,500.00 2,712,892.00 32,133.85 33,002.26 48,125.00 19,610.63 15,000.00 7,000,000.00 3,300,000.00 6,000,000.00 4,237,000.00 4,900,000.00 175,000.00 49,500.00 59,880.00 84,740.00 120,335.00 354,511.86 235.218.90 280.782.91 130,609.66 232,863.73 13,352.94 13.616.72 13,272.21 23,998.32 11,500.59 42,490.00 30,031.00 32.280.00 28.515.01 28,507.00 201,571.18 235,230.70 78,096.33 192,790.14 3,012,000.00 2,075,000.00 2,600,000.00 900.000.00 4.000,000.00 2,150,000.00 57,705. 00 35,157.50 56,8S0. 00 8,680.00 80,000.00 47,340.00 157,639.28 45,156.31 56,880.00 8,680. 00 149,017.05 23,051.09 13.996.38 8,473.28 5,873. 22 1,976.25 16.890.39 6,087.21 19,110.04 12,741.50 4,856.00 5,463. 00 26,920.00 15,028. 50 124,532.86 23,941.93 46,150. 78 1,210.75 105,236.66 1,935.38 350,000.00 1,000,000.00 1,033,000.00 5,250.00 10,00a 00 10.330.00 5,250.00 16,957.37 16,256.2-1 370.00 3,133.87 3,461-75 2,124.50 5,390.00 5,919.33 2,755.50 8,433.50 6,875.16 17,090.00 1,000,000.00 5,240,000.00 100,874.89 5,331,000.00 135,031.33 6,500,000.00 106,795.00 5,800,000.00 5, (XX), (XX). 00"'ixHoor 3,190,000.00 2,835.(18 I, KK . ), (KK). 00 5 23, 155.36 1.300,000.00 8,934,100.00 7,059,000.00 8,500,000.00 3.841,800.00 8,250, (XX). (X) 2,791,000.00 3, 000. (X) 12. 990l 00 170,890.00 102,79."). 50 103,137.50 47,627. (X) 112,135.00 IX, S'.)5.00 55, 107. 50 6,506.00 62, 580. 00 3,82i 09 53,604.60 512, 76-1. 89 31,509.38 44,330.85 52,3-16.07 373,579.83 36, 550. 00 22,867.40 449,932. 50 19,170.58 91.73 2.->, 131.25 44, 715. (X) 17, IIT.'1.7l> 15,113,48 17, I.C. !»7 17,519.90 7.500,000.00 116, m 00 6.000, (XX). 00 57,900.00 100,000.00 375.00 8,000,000.00 6,000,000.00 100,000.00 100.000.00 66,012.50 2,000.00 423,780.00 284,847.50 2,375.00 21,840.88 14,901.88 250.00 34,400.00 36,013.57 673.00 788,300. (X) 3,345.46 1, 154,000. 00 5,030.81 4,060,500.00 106,789.50 15,000, (XX). 00 187,050.00 11, 427,600.00 8,376.30 538,214.50 2,059.16 3v8.465.92 3,933.62 77,81-1.60 1,618 35,332.50 14,575.00 11,275.00 1,463 165.992.51 U, 61 5.00 1,719.09 DOMINICAN REPUBLIC Apr. 1,1926 Jan. 10,1027 Jan. 27,1928 Dominican Republic Do Do 3,300,000.00 5, 000, (XK). 00 5,000,000. 00 Mar. 1,1942 Oct. 1,1940 Oct. 1,1910 597,000.00 820,000.00 820,000.00 FRANCE Framerican Industrial Development Corporation—Mar. 13,1922 Sept. 7,1920 Government of tho French Republic A ray 25, 1021 Nov. 21, IWM Nov. Hi, 1919 Citics°of~Lyons, Marseilles, and" Bordeaux Miir. 17,1922 Paris, Lyons & Mediterranean It. R. Co Apr. 19,1922 Jan. -23, 1U22 - Depart men t'of" tho Soine 10, 000, 000. 00 100, 000,TOO.(X) 100,000,000.00 1(X), (XX), 000. 00 •1 (KXI, 000. 00 30,000,000.00 10,000, (XX). 00 25,000,000.00 GKRMANV Oct. 11,1921 110,000,000.00 German Government Juno 12,1930 98,250,000. 00 25,000,000.00 Consolidated"" Agricultural Loan of German and Juno 1,1928 Provincial Banks. North German Lloyd ^ Jan. 1,1912 None. Sept. 15,1945 () Juno 1,1941 39,191, 500. 00 Dec. 3,1919 29, 300, (XX). 00 Nov. 1,1931 None. AU(\ , 15, 1958 1,610, (XX). IX) do Jaii!'- 1,1912 J. I». Morgan & Co... do do — .do Kuhn, Locb it Co... Kulin, l.(iel) »t Co.... 32,000, (KK). (X) 2, (XX), (XX). (X) 9,000,000.00 J. P. Morgan & Co... Lee iligginson & Co.. Kulin, Loeb <t Co.. s (•')"" Oct. 15,1919 Juno 1,1965 June 1,1958 GREAT BRITAIN lfiii(cd Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.. fob. 18,1919 Oct. 21,1919 Greek Government DoDo.. GREECE HUNGAUY Kingdom of Hungary. Jan. 31 June 17,1930 Apr. 29,1931 28,179,000 250,000,000 17,000, (XX) 7,500,000 7,500,000 Italian Credit Consortium Italian Superpower Corporation Kingdom of Italy Pirelli Company of Italy City of Rome 5,000,000 1,500,000.00 7,500.000.00 20,250,000.00 Jan. 24,1928 Nov. 19, l!'2f> 100,000,000.00 4,000.000.00 Apr. 28,1927 Mar. 29,1927 30,000,000.00 Great Consolidated Electric Power Co. (Ltd.).. Imperial Japanese Government Do Taiwan Electric Power Co., (Ltd.) City of Tokio Tokio Electric Light Co. (Ltd.) City of Yokohama July 18,1921 July 9,1925 Feb. 15,1924 May 12,1930 June 26,1931 Mar. 21,1927 June 7, Nov. 23, 15,000,000.00 13,500,000.00 150.000,000.00 50,000,000.00 22,800,000.00 20,640,000.00 70,000.000.00 19,740,000.00 Mar. 25,1920 Juno 28,1928 Mar. 15,1922 Feb. 15,1923 Nov. 8,1923 Apr. 29,1921 Mar. 21,1930 15,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 40,000,000. 00 25,000,000.00 25,000,000.00 40,000, (XX). 00 40,000,000.00 ITALY—Fiat 10,000,000.00 Kingdom of Netherlands Royal Dutch Co Apr. 6 " July 6 Mar. PA Mar. 5'A Nov. 6 Apr. 4 Apr. 1,1925 1,1938 1,1962 1,1953 1,1953 1,195-1 1,1945 Kulin, Loeb & Co Dec. 10,1920 Mar. 10,1927 Doc. 16,1927 Dec. 21,1927 Oct. 21,1928 8.000,000.00 15,000,000.00 15, (XX), (XX). 00 50, (XX), 000. (K) 25,000,000.00 8 Jan. 1,1931 7 Sept. 1,1959 1 6 6 Dee. 1, I960 6 Oct. 1,1961 J. P. Morgan A- Co J. AW. Seligmau & Co.. Oct. 22,1923 Nov. 7,1927 Jan. 13,1931 Sept. 20,1928 Mar. 7,1929 Dec. 2,1929 15,000,000.00 50,000,000.00 £0,000,000.00 "500,000.00 50.000,000.00 » 863,960.00 Nov. 1,1913 Nov. 1,1917 Jan. 15,1941 (*> Alar. 1,1959 (=») Government of Switzerland July July Aug. Apr. 22,1919 6,1920 1,1923 1,1924 30,000,000.00 25,000,000.00 20,000,000.00 30,000,000.00 Aug. July Aug. Apr. "SVcst^Indies Sugar Finance Corporation.. June 10,1919 Aug. 28,1919 5,000,000.00 3,500,000.00 ,260,407,000.00 MMl Lee Iligginson A Co 'JS A 0s) 1,800,000.00 111,000.00 -.-do SWITZERLAND 1,1929 1,1940 1,1926 1,1946 June 15,1929 > Yearly sinking fund payments received for 1 year; amount, $30,000,000. »Retired. > Called June 1, 1930, at 115. « Called Fob. 1,1931, a07tf. ' Yearly sinking fund payments start Dec. 1, 1932. • Called Aug. 1, 1928, at 110. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/ Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 93 Ms 95.29 (») None. 94.1583 0) (») (») 9,000,000.00 IK 2.1!) 8,500,000.00 2,500.000.00 2,500,000.00 110,412.00 (*) 11,386.05 4,500,000.00 1,000,000.00 25,000,000.00 1,000,000.00 11,250,000.00 16,925.00 1,400,000.00 375,000 9,500.00 625,000 21,917. M) '^emm'w "63,276." 25 50,000.00 "8,"666,O66.'("XV "i2S,"io6."(66' 193,750.00 10,000,000.00 400,000.00 4,000.00 1,856.(00 10.0S9.30 400,000.00 30,000.00 24,000.(00 3,000,000.00 91,875.00 ' 8,_575, OOO".00" "85," 750." 66' 3,000,000.00 37,500,000.00 17,000,000.00 5,200,000.00 4,910,000.00 Lee Iligginson A Co.. y p . Morgan & Co— do 1,000,000.00 1,000,000.00 325,000.00 12,125,000.00 197,056.34 5,011,000.00 42,900.00 3,800,000.00 40,507.50 3,975,000.00 5,000,000.00 3,750,000.00 "*37,~4S6.~O6' 14,371.75 10,000.00 1,000,000.00 7,447.76 800,000.00 10,000.00 118,501.00 15,054,000.00 100,854.72 37,671. (00 25,220.00 5,196,000.00 14,662. !50 17,499.00 1,955,000.00 14,544.36 19.875.00 1.809.000.00 31,250.00 5,000, OGO. 00 31.250.00 22,952. 29 18,750.00 1,803,000.00 ~io6,~5oa6o 1,058 3,855 2,526 367,539.12 3,374.00 233,932.05 1,072.00 1.00 1,452.00 52,110.00 2,152.00 16,140.00 2,305. 48 57,909.48 57,879.19 21,917.80 342,601.92 11,075.80 207,510.19 22,500.00 19.725.00 257,077.50 82,500.00 16,500.00 18,770.00 100,000.00 18,000.00 5,114.00 46.871.75 3,711.15 37.172.76 74,217.15 891,407.12 34,198.75 312,447.31 3,665.00 91,501.50 93, 696. SO 5,894.22 12,232.93 162,500.00 3,729.63 97,182.19 4,300.00 8,074.10 75,250.00 32,20-4.92 7,441.50 10,122.00 33,650.00 10,926.00 37,457.75 25,387.51 741,999.97 276,013.67 80,455.00 77,680.64 116,617.02 82,526.56 11,272.50 2,000.00 13, (M0.00 12,750.00 14.580.00 168,516,25 27,187.50 51,727.50 2,750.00 18,891.50 23,974.00 25,801.39 354,917.43 45,9S1.88 2,795,00 72.50 12,315.00 3,250.00 12,410.00 79,798.35 4,881.25 1,509.00 673.00 4,878.00 a 970.00 6,970.00 55,706.50 8,745.00 44,423.50 2,004.50 1,698.50 13,754.00 6,421.39 219,412.58 32,355.63 7,200.00 5,560.00 H .a H iK-tf tti A s/i~A 1,400. (XX). 00 7,000.00 13,641.74 3,000,000.00 7,000.00 2,800,000. (X) 46,349.43 0,999,999.00 15,000,000.00 112,500.00 14,9-17.42 3,500,000.00 1,250,000.00 5,750,000.00 5,000,000.00 7,490,625.00 7,500,000.00 3,937,500.00 6,250.00 57,500.00 14,062.50 24,257.85 252,391.74 21,062.50 382,747.86 22,987.85 211,692.08 21,062.50 174,300.00 127,157.50 2211 ,3a 18 6,000,000.00 3,700,000.00 >» 71,100.00 4,000, (XX). 00 19 276,311.00 44,850.00 89,220.00 07,010.00 35,500. 00 41,300.00 2'J8,291.7'J 102,402.50 196,807.43 147,371.77 79,935.91 130,150.31 298,291.79 9,472.25 21,430.00 22,740.15 1,656.50 14,236.25 103,103.33 12,546.00 32,280.00 16,087.00 14,925.15 27,960.00 90,581.18 80,384.25 133,097.43 107,944.62 63,35-1.29 87,954.06 33,607.28 4,774,000.00 2,000,000.00 3,500,000.00 2,— "" 39,9S0.00 41,200.00 16,925.00 24,075.00 12S ' , 646.65 141,907.63 54,436.19 145,058.06 2,232.75 8,393.26 11,321.76 5,509.85 23,822.26 12,000.00 24,395.00 8,600.00 102,591.64 121,514.37 18,719.43 130,883.21 2,812, £00.00 (}, 250,000.00 6,250,000. 00 93,750.00 4,968,750.00 28,125.00 68, 72a 27 54,687. 50 »80,400.00 23,477.34 13,476.56 4,218,750.00 12,312.00 1,000,000.00 6,512, COO. 00 28,859.16 25,6-14.27 5,118,750.00 9,702.10 >» 71,100.00 21,228.00 4,000,000.00 5,074,999.67 4,200,000.00 3,475,000.00 8,962,500.00 31,71S. 15, 750.00 17,375.00 86,000.00 4,348, (XX). 00 1,760,000.00 2,512,000.00 3,423,000.00 « Renewed to May 5,1932. '»Treasury bills. » Renewed for 3 months. i« Called Apr. 1, 1929. u Called Oct. 1, 1925, at 110. 2,200.00 125,000.00 110.000.00 555,000.00 5,000,000.00 5,625, (XX). 00 4,025,000.00 21,508. tO 7,000,000.00 5,735,625.00 2,137, COO. 00 8,015.63 5,875,000.00 56,9-17.90 30,837.63 20,136.19 34,983.06 1,800,000.00 m Called July 1,1924, at 105. » 6 months' credit, w Called Jan. 19, 1925, at 105. » Certificates, a American certificates. 37,600.00 39,538.75 Called Jan. 1,1931, at 105. » Called Aug. 1, 1925, at 100. » CaUed Aug. 1,1923, at 105. »Cumulative preferred stock. , . . . *» Exchanged in 1924 for Cuban Dominican Sugar preferred stock. 11 92928—31. (Face p. 162.) 28 1,429 1,319 1,226 29,481.30 2S, 00-4.00 5,000,026.22 14,713,304.39 1,440,272.40 22,731.30 15,10-4.00 2,759,627.81 615,676,706.67 • Called at 110 on Mar. 15,10& • To be called Jan. 1,1832, at 105. " American shares for common stock. •Sold our notes without profit. 1,000,000.00 1,315,000.00 17,500,000.00 5,500,000.00 1,650,000.00 1,900,000.00 5,000,000.00 1,800,000.00 751,500.00 10,455.00 100, (XX). 00 75a CO 900,000.00 5,851.30 11,224.00 1,000,000.00 11,221.39 1,000,000.00 79,901.18 12,955,000.00 18,794.28 1,500,000.00 750,000.00 100,000.00 500.000.00 1,000,000.00 1,000,000.00 9,598,500.00 3,000,000.00 Potter Bios. A Co.. » A n d 24 days* interest. 52,250.91 451,650.91 276,902.91 390,515.10 204,672.96 307,50!). 91 I2S, 607.41 jr,, 0 7!». 93 2.305.4S 2,700.52 69,114.00 65,2S5.00 2,025.81 21,917. SO 435,1S6.25 "40,394.3:"? 15,915.30 2.717.50 231,625.00 7.980.51 1,300,000.00 "15^314.(00 11,850.(00 1,000,000.00 30,000.00 Kuhn, Loeb Co Dillon, Read & Co.— S Oct. 1,1945 6 Sept. 1,195-1 Kreuger & Toll K reuger & Toll (debentures) T ir & Toll 10,000,000.00 ....do I.ce Iliggenson & Co... Guaranty Co., N. Y... 0) None. 7,500,000.00 4,600,000.00 2,600,000.00 <"> None. 5,000, (XX). 00 2,000, IKK). 00 lE ' RU Ccrro Do l'asoc Copper Co Republic of Peru IH 91^ Dillon, Read & Co— 86 'j? P. Morgan & Co.." 92H do 90 do 93H do 89^ 90^ Guaranty Co., N. Y.. J. P. Morgan & Co— Aug. 1,1914 3,200,000.00 July 1,1950 1,800,000.00 Feb. 1,1951 16,700.000.00 May 1,1965 July 1,1971 900,000.00 Oct. 1,1961 Juno 15,1953 2,500,000.00 900,000.00 Dec. 1,1961 THE NETHERLANDS Anglo American Oil Co. (Ltd.) Colon Oil Corporation Dutch East Indies [....do Field, Olore & Co J. 1\ Morgan & Co 13,750. 00 83,000.00 41,750.00 90,000. (X) Vi a-U None. Nov. 21,1931 (») July i, l!)16 1,779,000.00 /Mar. 1,1937 2,600,000.00 i>2'A \-Mar. 1,1917 None. <ji>A 9130 Jan. 1,1963 Dec. 1,1951 10,729,900.00 May 1,1952 2,857,000.00 Apr. 1,1952 2,557,000.00 1,375,000.00 8,300,000.00 8,350,000.00 9,000,000.00 $2. 50 Spoycr it Co 100.000 18,750.00 188.000.00 94,000.00 150,000.00 176,311.27 65,912.55 (50,000.00 t J. P. Morgan & Co... Feb. 1,1937 'Nov. 1,1922 .Aug. 1,1929 Feb. 1, KXiS May 5,1931 May 5,1932 2.500,000.00 20,000,000.00 20,000, (XX). 00 20,000.000.00 11,250, (XX). (XI 9,000, (XX). 00 3,000,000.00 No. 1 377 1,031 834 2,347 Canadian and Cuban Issues managed by others Date offered Province of Quebec Canadian Northern Ry. Co. Canadian Pacific Ry. Co Canadian National Ry. Co.. Dominion of Canada... City of Toronto Grand Trunk Ry. Co — Province of Alberta Canadian Northern Ry Grand Trunk Ry Canadian Northern Ry Grand Trunk Ry Canadian National Ry... Dominion of Canada., City of Montreal Canadian National Ry... . Do"::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Province of Quebec City of Montreal Canadian National Ry ---Shawinigan Water & Power Co National Transcontinental Ry Shawinigan Water & Power Co Province of New Brunswick Canadian National Ry Canadian Pacific Ry Province of New Brunswick Canadian National Ry Canadian National Ry. Co. Canadian Pacific Ry Montreal Metropolitan Commission.. cuba Republic of Cuba. Average. 1 Rate Amount Maturity Per cent Mar. 6 Mar. 1,1920 $3,500,000.00 Mar. 23,1920 12,000,000.00 Mar. 25,1920 12,000,000.00 May 15,1920 15,000,000.00 July 9,1919 75,000,000.00 Nov. 27,1919 2,632,000.00 Oct. 0,1920 25,000,000. 00 Nov. 1,1920 1,000,000.00 Nov. 20,1920 25,000,000.00 Jan. 14,1021 12,000,000.00 July 7,1Q21 25, 000,000.00 Sept. 10,1921 25,000,000.00 Mar. 7,1922 11,000,000.00 Apr. 1922 100,000,000.00 Nov. 1,1922 16,139,000.00 Jan. 8,1921 9,700,000.00 July 28,1924 20,000,000.00 9,375,000.00 do 000,000.00 Sept. 4,1921 26, 000,000.00 Feb. 3,1925 18, 1 7 , 000,000.00 do 5,000,000.00 June 5,1925 7, 0 000.00 Jan. 11,1920 15,000, 00,000.00 Apr. 29,1927 35,000, 000.00 Oct. 5,1927 3,396,0 00.00 Jan. 19,1928 10. 0 00, 00.00 Apr. 17,1928 2,265,0000. 00 Nov. 9,1928 60, 0 00, 0 00. 00 June 17,1929 30,000,000.0 0 Dec. 17,1929 3,358,000.00 Jan. 10,1930 18,000,000.00 Jan. 28,1930 70.000,000.00 Jan. 21,1931 14,250,000.00 Dec. 1,1930 May 5,1931 2,680,000.00 1,1925 5 Dec. 1, 1922-1924 Oct. 1, 1920-1932 May 1, 1935 m August 1, 1924-1929. m Sept. 1,1920-1919 Oct. 1, 1940 7 Nov. 1, 1930 6 Dcc. 1, 1940 7 Feb. 1936 I, m m July 1, 192f>.._ Sept. 1, 1936 6 5 Mar. 1,1925 5 May 1,1052 5 Nov. 1.1942 5 Sept. 1, 1943-1963 4 July 1, 1927... Julv 1, 1935-1939 4*2 Sept. 15, 1954 m Jan. 15,1930... 4H Feb. 15, 1935 4M Mar. 2, 1950. 4H Feb. 1, 1946 M. May 1, 1928-1942 4 Yi Oct. 1, 1967 4X Oct. 1, 1955 4H May 1, 1968 4H Nov. 15, 1958 5 July 1, 1969 Dec. 1,1954 5 Jan. 15, 1960 5 Feb. 1, 1970... 5 4] Feb. h 1056— 4] June 1, 1931-1945 4H May 1, 1965 Jan. 15,1923 50,000,000.00 July 1,1927 9,000,000.00 5H Jan. 15,1953 July 1, 1928-1937.. Manager Our cost Offering Our participa-Our grossOur profit General Net profit Amount of sales expense price price tion spread $95.84 95.57 96.828 99 99.25 97 98.75 Per cent 1.97 $21,836.92 19,393.14 800,000.00 3 7,635.10 480,000.00 2 19,412.47 1,000,000.00 3 [ 1 2 0,251.38 [12,750,000.00 ! 2.25 811.12 2.55 22, i,oi6,ooaoo 96, 682.70 4.50 6,9 2,500,00a 00 28 1.775 33,737. 500,00a 00 40.00 3 2,000,00a 00 1 9 , 1 9 3 . 57 2H 1,500,000.00 35,123.27 3 2,000,00a 00 2 U 29.150.36 2,000,00a 00 . 595 665.82 897,500L 00 19,500, OtXX 00 2.50 245,743.06 2 23,294.02 2,219,00a 00 2.27 9.955.69 1,215,00a 00 . 625 11,528.98 3,275,00a 00 1.27 11.409.37 1,535,00a 00 o 24,356.40 3,040,000.00 7,7&4.48 3,420,00a00 6,941.53 M i,sos,ooaoo .965 5,571.89 1,913,50a 00 6,670.78 1.11 1,400,00a 00 .831 6,661.60 2,456,25a 00 110.00 1.5 11,903.53 ""Bs^ooaoo 2 1,237. 50 Itt 391.87 1.95 75, 865,000.00 7,588.35 0,930,012.00 1.59 63, 899.25 2,625,000.00 2.50 10,214.52 1,679,000.00 1.65 20, 1 31.56 2,250,000.00 1.41 1.84 70,977.67 8,750,000.00 025.00 1,000,000.00 1. 5731 9, 5.830.70 1.09 1,340,000,00 $93.87 92.57 94.328 96 98.25 94.75 96.20 9 5H 91.10 97 92.65 93J-2 93 99.03 97.50 J. P. Morgan.95 Harris Forbes... 94.14 Dillon Read"" m* —do 97.35 94 99}* :::::do:::::::::::::::::::-~ m* Harris Forbes 96.16 94.14 Dillon Read" .". 9 8 Lee Higginson.94 Dillon Read 96} £ Lee Higgman 97 First National Bank 9 3 . 3 0 Dillon Read 9a 16 Bank of Montreal 97.50 Harris Foster 98.10 Dillon Read 96.404 Union Trust Title."..:::"... 98Mo Guaranty 98.91 100 J. P. Morgan & Co., do 99.25 10,000,000.00 2.48 U01.122 1,800,000.00 11.122 Harris Forbes. W. A. Read Co Guaranty W. A. Read Co J. P. Morgan Harris Forbes W. A. Read & Co Harris Forbes W. A. Read & Co —do Dillon Read... 96.77 100 100 92% 100 95.4 9614 99.625 100 97 96. 41 987/8 98.62 96 W* 97?i 97.125 95.25 98.831 05^2 98)-2 98M 95. 25 99.75 100 99.75 99.50 98.25 99.6356 95}* $1,750,000.00 59,343.75 6,206.25 $8,100.00 $16,736.92 $1,350,000.00 5,046.00 14,347.14 841,000.00 1,140.00 6,495.10 190,000.00 3,480.00 15,932.47 590,000.00 39,156.53 81,094.85 7,8-47,100.00 4,570,84 18,240.28 916,000.00 11,124.00 85,558.70 1,854,000.00 1,128.00 5,809.28 188,000.00 11,172.00 22,56S. 00 1,862,000.00 3,008.12 16,185.45 479,000.00 5,984.84 29,138.43 953,000.00 S, 785.72 20,664.64 1,399,000.00 395,000.00 2,140.90 1.475.08 39,999.60 205,743.46 7,380,000.00 19,837.20 3,459.82 3,660,000.00 6,605.00 3,290.69 1,550,000.00 159,000.00 9,283. 70 2, 45.28 2, 1,254,000.00 5,392.20 6,2 017.17 2, 000,000.00 8,600.00 15, 7 56. 4 0 1,651.66 6,132.82 269,000.00 230,000.00 1,412.20 5, 5 29. 3 3 13,839.56 8t 267.67 2,254,500.00 7,095.83 125.05 1,169,000.00 4,782.82 1,878.78 889,000.00 100,000.00 538.00 50,000.00 3,151. 50 8.7428.00 52.09 595, 00.00 639.35 598.15 1,312,00 00. 00 8,829. 76 3,437.89 32,908.82 44,679.53 4,708,000.00 31,748. 58 32,150.67 4,542,000.00 11.893.20 1,678.68 2,040,000.00 17,198. 50 2,933.06 2,950,000.00 8, 704.30 62,273.37 1,930,000.00 5,771.70 253.30 990,000.00 7,184.43 3, 1, SSS. 73 1,593,000.00 4,256.34 55,087.41 4,29a 62 1,907.63 92928—31. (Face p. 162.) 612; 100.00 799,000.00 No. 2 The Syndicate Date oftere<1 Name of issue Amount of issue Rate Tjarly sinking fund payments Maturity Sinking fund payments to date Cost price Ottering price Original terms Manager Number of dealer Intermediate group Amount of Number Profit profit of dealers spread Profit spread Amount of profit The National City Co. Banking group Number Profit of dealers spread Selling group " Amount of Number profit of dealers Profit spread Original terms Total expenses Total net profit $124,755.00 210,000.00 175,000.00 $29,22G. 24 25,363. 75 13,317.00 Amount of profit Intermediate group Banking group Participation Amount of profit Participation $170,528.76 424,636.25 361,683.00 $3,750,000.00 9,000,000.00 7,500,000.00 $18,750.00 90,000.00 75,000.00 --------------- ------.. $3,040,000.00 5,050,000.00 5,750,000.00 12,000,000.00 97,612.50 $13,000,000.00 $57,880.96 Amount of profit Amount of profit Selling group r Gross profit Discounts General expense Net profit Number of retail sales Participation Amount of profit $11,732.24 39,826.07 49,842.78 $3,270,000.00 2,343,500.00 5,405,000.00 $41,722.50 38,081.88 94,587.50 $72,204.74 167,907.95 , 219,430.28 $7,879.66 4,129.63 14,639.63 $17,592.60 14.717.09 24.295.10 $46,732.48 149,061.23 180,495.55 851 657 1,074 10,200,000.00 91,800.00 8,705,000.00 156,847.83 404,141.29 52,369.92 46,852.90 304,918.47 2,005 . 5,140,000.00 . - 2,475,000.00 28,507.64 33, 759.00 5,278,000.00 2,304,500.00 84,857.50 50,937.50 167,324.31 114,696.50 47,548.36 35,521.94 13,827.00 84,251 01 100,869.50 1,254 cm Ow 16,706.35 25,337.99 4,941,000.00 4,553,500.00 93,020.00 105,358.18 1G0,777.27 170,855.45 26,121.12 7,611,87 33,252.93 31,828.97 101,403.22 146,638.35 1,172 . 1,575 .. 16,672.58 .. liW, 147.26 16,584.81 26.310.00 51,895.55 28,777.19 68.773.01 49,942.59. 130,023.40 30,212.84 17,125.50 31,575.28 68,591.00 181,541.16 Participation australia City of Brisbane State of Queensland Do .. Mar. 11,102 7 - Oct. 7,192 1 - Feb. 2,192 2 $7,600,000.01 12,000,000.0( 10,000,000.<X 5 7 0 Mar. 1,195' Oct. 1,1941 Feb. 15,194/ ; E Nov. 30,1925 30,000,000.0C 6 Nov. 1,1952 . Dec. 10,192& . Oct. 4,192C 10,000,000. oc 10,000,000.0(J 5 8 Dec. 1,1958 Oct. 1,1927 . Mar. 19,1928 . Sept. 1G, 1920 8,500,000.00 S, (XX), 000.00 OH Mar. 1,1958 Sept. 1,1959 : ; = = 2 2 2 National City Co do .....do $372,000.00 1,122,000.00 372,500.00 03H 9 5H 92H 96 99 mi 2 437 f/tfl 00 86.415 00H H $37,500.00 120,000.00 100,000.00 .5848 122,812.50 l l - :IIIIII: IIIIIIIIIIIII; 59 20 19 M 1 1 $37,500.00 120,000.00 100,000.00 290 327 338 1H lH 1% 105,000.00 63 1 210,000.00 426 2 503,600.00 76,436.20 864,976.30 . austria City r>f Vienna . r ,_, r 4 8 H belgium leginsJune 1,1934 Called Apr. 1, 1924, at 104.. 10,000,000.00 90.71 94 94 100 "II._do~ - brazil State of Minus Geraes Do... - 368,000.00 188,000.00 do do 93.167 82.33 97fi 87 91% S7h 93 U 93H do. mi 93 M 94 I_...do do 03*S 91^ II___do do 96?* do 99 90H« 96 chilk . Nov. 0,1922 . Jan.- 24,-192* Sept. 4, J 928 Mar. 11,1929 Apr. 24,1930 Dec. 13,1926 June 18,1929 18,000,000.00 - -45,912,000.00 16,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 25,000,000.00 35,000,000.00 32,000,000.00 Oct. 27,1925 7 0 G 6 5 6 2,900,000.00 Nov. 1,1942 —1,7fiO, 000.00 .Jan. —lrlQ(U 423,000.00 Hopt. 1, 19<il 210,000.00 Mar. Ifl'J62 255,000.00 May 1,1963 Jan. i, 1947 " iegin ~M ayllB," "l932.11111111 July 1,1954 i42,"6oo."o6" 25,000,000.00 7H Oct. Jan. 31,1921 Oct. 22,1920 Dec. 19,1921 15,000,000.00 25,000,000.00 30,000,000.00 8 8 6 Feb. 1,1946 Oct. 15,1945 Jan. 1,1942 Oct. 18,1923 Mar. 19,1925 Sept. 14,1926 Feb. 15,1928 Sept. 28,1928 Oct. 8,1924 10,000,000.00 10,000.000.00 15,000,000.00 15,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 7,000,000.00 6 7 m 5*6 6 m Sept. Mar. Sept. Feb. Sept. Oct. Jan. 26,1925 Dec. 9,1925 General Do Electric Co., Germany May 22,1928 June 7,1928 Am&r.0FL G" cFe'mica'i CoVpIII IIIIIIIIIII Apr. 26,1929 Sept. 16,1925 Central Bank for Agriculture, Germany.. July 11,1927 Oct. 14,1927 DoII.-I.I_™ I I I . . . I . . May 2,1928 Feb. 11,1929 Apr. 29,1926 HarpenSteel Mining Corporation..I Corporation Ilseder Oct. 31,1928 Rhine W^tphalia Electric"Power Cor- Nov. 12,1925 poration. Aug. 10,1927 Do.. Sept. 26,1928 Do. Oct. 2,1928 Do Mar. 20,1930 Do Feb. 20,1931 Saxon Public Works Feb. 3,1925 Do... June 30,1926 July 30,1930 Saxon Stete Mortgage Institutionrirri. - . Jan. 15,1926 Nov. 22,1926 Do T I I 'L IIIIIIIIIII III Sept. 8,1927 10,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 5,000,000.00 30,000,000.00 25,000,000.00 30,000,000.00 50,000,000.00 25,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 7,500,000.00 10,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 7 m 6 6 5H 7 6 6 6 6 7 6 7 1,009,000.00 Jan. 15,1945 4,198,000.00 Dec. 1,1940 May l, 1948 "Begins Sept" 15,1933.""" See above. May 1,1948 71,000.00 May 1,1949 2,786, COO. 00 Sept. 15,1950 "ILIII II IIIIIIIIIII July 15,1960 3,507,000.00 Oct. 15,1960 6,699,000.00 Apr. 15,1938 1,300,000. 00 Jan. 1,1949 750,000.00 Apr. 1,1946 "Called Apr'. l","i929lIII I1II11 7,500,000.00 Aug. 1,1948 691,000.00 Nov. 1,1950 1,618,000.00 15,000,000.00 20, ooa 000.00 1 8,000,000.00 20.000,000.00 7,500,000.00 15,000,000.00 15,000,000.00 1^000,000.00 5,000,000.00 4,000,000.00 2,000,000.00 6 6 May 1,1952 Aug. 1,1953 761,000.00 646,000. 00 0 Aprl 1,1955" 7 Feb. 1,1936 Feb. 1,1015 7 OH May 1,1951 5 July 15,1932 Dec. 1,1945 OH Dec. 1,1946 Sept. 15,1947 6 364,~O56."OO" None. None. 1,001,000.00 Oct. 9,1922 June 30,1925 16,000,000.00 1,743,000.00 6 6 Oct. Oct. 1,1952 1,1953 , 4,997,500.00 704,908.78 Dec. 5,1927 15,000,000.00 5 Nor. 1,1960 . Aug. 12,1924 Industrial Bank of Japan (Ltd.)... Oriental Development Co. ( L t d . ) . . . . . . . . Mar. 27,1923 Oct. 30,1928 Do . . . . . . ......... 22,000,000.00 19,900,000.00 19,900,000.00 G 6 m Aug. 15,1927 Mar. 1,1053 Nov. 1,1958 6,000,000.00 6 Republic of Chile Chil? Copper C o . " ! - _ Lantaro\\itrate Co. (Ltd.) .... - 6 - 90 " ... 2 G .79 1H 78,962.22 150,000.00 71 44 % A iX 67,500.00 150,000.00 258 123 1X 3 183,627.50 299,750.00 47,278.53 45,400.6-4 282,811.19 554,349.36 7,500,000.001 2,000,000.001 53,959.17 30,000.00 ... 4 4 1.58 1.419 134,508.13 113,582.49 3 12 X 63,750.00 46,290.00 83 123 2 2X 189,120.00 179,612.50 94,083. 79 31,434.46 293,294.34 308,050.53 4,016,250.001 3,900,000.001 50,990.92 40,159. 28 —I 1 2 4 3 3 5 3 H 1 -A 1 1 1 1 1 135,000.00 45U,, 190l 00 160,000.00 100,000.00 257,500.00 350,000.00 320,000.00 18 225,000.00 00 378 701 2 90,430.00 225,000.00 262,500.00 232,500.00 459 325 507 488 2 2 2 m 2H 3(0,000.00 U&7, l^K OO 370,870.00 222,940.00 489,50U. 00 471,150.00 979,525.00 234,375.00 6 — czechoslovakia Czechoslovak Republic . 1,19-15 Called Apr. 1, 1928 25,000,000.00 Called Feb. 1,1931 Called Oct. 15, 1925 15,000,000.00 25,000,000.00 4 do denmark Danish Consolidated municipal loan Kingdom of Denmark 95 90H finland Republic of Finland Do - Finland Residential Mortgage Baicik Finnish Guaranteed Municipal Loan-... germany 1,1945 1,1950 1,1956 1,1958 1,1961 1,1954 - - - -------- 2.077,000.00 307,500.00 972,000.00 766.000.00 326,000.00 680,000.00 864.7moo 585,000.00 229,000.00 85 88.417 88.70 oitt 86 88.71 88^ 90H 91# 91 88 92 92^ Wtf 85 88.63 88.36 S9H 92 90.458 48.119 am m* 86.91 95 88.18 92 91 ...do do do *Mtt 98 HO . . . . d o — — 94 do 94 do 92 H I . . . .do. do 91 _do do __,do 95 " ...do 95 I__..do _„do 93 05 I-I-do do 95^ do do 90 do 94 do 92 do 94 ....... . 92.137 81.29 96H 96 12^408,000.00 <U 97 22,000,000.00 3,793,500.00 1,386,000.00 96H 87 m 99X 92 90 260,000.00 94H 98 20,000,000.00 94H 97 100 100 iRELAND Irich itraa State . JAPAH HOLLAND flliv nf Rnttflrdaln Apr* 16,1924 NORWAY Sept* 28,1920 <Oct* 16,1922 Do May 1,1964 J Do. -<iug* 15,1923 Do ^lug* 5,1924 Norwegian Hydro Electric Nitrogen JSTov» 17,1927 Corporation, 20,000,000.00 18.000,000.00 20,000,000.00 25,000,000.00 20,000,000.00 8 6 6 0 5H Oct* 1,1940 Oct* 15,1952 Aug, 15,1943 . Aug, 1,1944 . ]Nov* 1,1957 Called Oct, 1, 1925 at 110 Sinking fund starts Apr* 15, . 1933* 340,000.00 94.27 mi- do Jline 25,1928 12,000,000.00 5 1May 15,1963 . 25,000,000.00 None. MM 96.62 wtt99H- 93 9SH- SWEDBN Do ... ......... une 12,1919 . . . C>ct. 27,1924 25,000,000.00 30,000,000.00 6 5H J une 15,1939 *Sailed June 15, 1929, at 102 1sfov. 1,1954 URUGUAY Republic of Uruguay Total i American shares common stock* . . . A.Ug. 8,1921 7,500,000.00 1, 071,955,000.00 . . 8 JLug. 1,1940 - 639,00(X00 222,866,908.78 - 1 3 3 3 4 1 1 1 1 IK — -- do .542 1.881 H 1.084 X 1.32 2 2 .863 .97 ... :::::::::::::: ... ------- IIII:IIII: 104,000.00 150,000.00 125,000.00 138,125.00 108,371.13 101,265.79 150,000.00 H ""i56,"5o6."oo" 7 2 u 50,066.06" "*"225,"566."66" 162,500.00 75,000.00 65,833.33 80,000.00 40,000.00 G1 1 215,000.00 380 3 659,280.00 74,549.56 31 34 35 1H VA 1 187,500.00 375,000.00 300,000.00 412 472 559 2li 2Vi 2 373,975.00 625,000.00 599,990.00 46,129.31 56,647.58 48,301.43 665,345.69 1,193,352.42 1,189,188.57 11,250,000.00 16,188,000.00 15,000,000.00 112,500.00 161,880.00 I M I I I I I I - . I - 168.750. GO 37 37 48 75 71 34 1 1 1 1 H 1 100,000.00 100,000.00 146,542.50 105,000.00 43,500.00 70,000.00 256 180 240 235 238 176 3 3 359,370.00 315,720.00 308,275.00 219,580.00 200,770.00 221,400.00 37,430.10 48,611.38 47,155.79 38,490.03 43,512.12 34,796.99 521,939.90 525,441.95 547,661.71 405,881.63 239,882.88 326,603.01 5,625,000.00 2,531,250.00 3,037,500.00 4,218,750.00 2,936,250.00 3,543,750.00 56,250.00 45,574.22 60,255.48 64,306.57 18,930.39 42,328.13 29 37 78 m m 1 100,000.00 325 245 285 3 2H M 284,700.00 250,000.00 191,922.50 88,769.29 36,365.75 59,876.50 399,930.71 513,634.25 357,046.00 10,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 104,000.00 150,000.00 125,000.00 79" 58 63 75 89 41 26 58 37 I " ""290,"666166" 499" 456 393 553 485 45 79 224 170 2" 3 in 599,626.66" 633,780.00 414,701.25 784,595.00 469,702.50 95,700.00 150,000.00 239,175.00 226,125.00 209,460Is6" 87,280.65 87,775.44 71,665.67 66,797.44 43,960.37 20,979.08 79,083.22 41,228.80 381 442 32 456 2 2 2 2 285,930.00 320,980.00 1C0,474.00 351,360.00 74,473.55 105,910.14 35,930.42 130,438.49 279" 259 88 58 (>4 37 3"" 2H IX 2H 2 2 450,"666."66" "*123*046."82" 60,056.04 395,575.00 33,247.82 129,825.00 13,248.19 139,850.00 18,127.11 79,000.00 9.541.94 40,000.00 n;o, 000.00 % H 150,000.00 100,000.00 1 F lH 201,250.00 100,250.00 216,650.00 187,500.00 40,690.00 78,750.00 69,750.00 136,000.00 5S 90 H % 61,750.00 123,750.00 82~ H ""133,375.66" $ H % 1 m 4 R~ 1.00 3 2 2 lit 2H 2 2X 2H 48,721,5!) .lfW>, 057. 89 111,748.56 71,979,34 76, 237.30 100,126.31 327,087.93 806,278.41 1.737,812.11 579,121.44 341,390.66 895,762.70 983,523.69 1,524,937.07 1,249,105.44 0,250,000.00 78,125.00 411,331.45 497,190.99 225,809.37 504,296.51 15,000,000.00 20, 000,000.00 8,000,000.00 20,000,000.00 8,605,000.00 253,470.00 499,772.72 32,328.79 52,834.70 414,609.23 1,745 7,350,000.00 12,000,000.00 18,425,000.00 83,542.85 170,629.17 169,128.32 4,195,500.00 5,858,000.00 6,034,500.00 87,441.25 134,905.49 113,565.00 283,484.10 467,414.66 451,443.32 20,142.50 15,992.50 18,592.20 26,347.74 35,148.00 44,531.48 236,993.86 416,274.16 388,319.64 786 1,175 1,643 5,010,000.00 2,949,375.00 3,600,000.00 3,660,000.00 2,802,500.00 3,780,000.00 33,468.07 17,636.38 25,532.03 27,967.15 10,509,37 22,346.86 4,242,000.00 2,500,000.00 2,830,000.00 3,450,000.00 2,332,500.00 2,453,000.00 124,440.00 71,250.00 70,750.00 64,687.50 37,333.73 67,947.50 214,158.07 134,460.60 156,537.51 156,961.22 66,773.49 132,622.49 23,060.01 4,803.76 6,092.65 10,294.45 9,638.03 9,235.91 29,616.74 15,350.00 17,178.10 23,118.50 15,697.73 10,647.90 161,481.32 114,406.84 133,266.76 123,548.27 41,437.73 112,838.68 1,499 1,101 743 720 558 701 6,825,000.00 6,525,000.00 40,504.07 77,310.97 42,793.17 4,800,000.00 4,908,000.00 4,817,000.00 5,000,000.00 13,631,000.00 7,000,000.00 6,356,500.00 7,303,500.00 5,501,500.00 2,495,000.00 3,515,000.00 5,215,500.00 5,700,000.00 124,755.00 118,900.00 65,012.25 193,750.00 238,542.50 205,390.00 102,523.11 75,609.66 45,447.01 69,140.00 102,150.00 135,775.00 269,339.07 346,210.97 232,805.42 193,750.00 544,297.23 424,044.22 271,812.41 422,550.94 189,085.76 135,100.34 250.915.33 188,826.25 3,018,832.73 17,630.24 23,841 42 12.829.63 25,296.69 57.916.88 26.547.64 14,082.52 23,978.18 17,786.34 3,456.51 3,614.32 35,911.04 30,333.69 29,472.00 30,135.12 32,418.41 33,650.00 95,280.69 42,980.00 34,097.97 39,292.83 33,559.10 17,440.05 21,336.05 35,100.32 34,978.00 222,236.83 292,231.43 187,557.38 134.803.31 391,099.66 354,516.58 223.631.92 359.279.93 137.740.32 121,152.80 225,964.96 117,814.89 236,52L 04 1,125 1,352 950 594 2,285 1,531 1,700 2,191 1,451 711 1.243 1,890 1,194 6,763.500.00 8,092,000.00 5,798,700.00 8,428,000.00 271,350.37 328,785.74 19,281.86 328,806.13 42,030.00 504,780.55 322,296.36 130,522.66 185.816.34 131,721.62 66,102.54 24,174.29 46.580.65 7,775.25 53.008.89 4,963,000.00 3,424,000.00 2,333,000.00 1,658,000. 00 116,350.37 140,490.00 91,551.07 128,070.00 42,030.00 230,270.05 150,000.00 53,767.66 85,150.00 46,660.00 26,102.54 sSIoiiles33,438.50 14,481.50 9,544.35 7,300.24 36,387.63 54,459.16 39,025.25 49,215.24 33,825.00 66,005.00 36,420.00 28,934.29 20,783.68 14,161.31 9,519.04 210,788.45 227,745.93 146,016.36 226,582.00 8,205.00 438,775.55 250,834.73 68,149.87 150,551.16 108,015.96 49,283.26 1,824 1,457 887 1,078 73 3,739 1.244 314 958 791 465 7, 515,000.00 8,035,000.00 " 10*025,"666i06" 8,~225,~666.~00" §6,"751 73" 52,404.22 22,536.80 65,629.06 35,351.10 15,213.33 421,164.53 23,015.51 70,224.40 16,875.00 32.424.61 50,"736113" 1,180,000.00 10,750,500.00 118,681.88 15 1 160,000.00 306 1 2H 5 400,000.00 87,150.00 97,494.31 600,585.69 256,257.60 16,000,000.00 1,743,000.00 120,650.00 169,107.60 13,750,000.00 105,398.62 12,960,500.00 1,743,000.00 218,272.50 87,160.00 444,321.12 256,257.60 14,165.94 49,815.51 70,245.91 10,702.02 359,909.27 195,740.07 £925 75,000.00 332 m 275,985.00 78,586.63 422,393.32 7,350,000 73,500.00 5,200,000.00 11,110.78 5,354,000.00 67,797.50 152,408.28 22,375.56 28*804.62 101,228.20 1,106 144 196 102 IX % 110,000.00 199,000.00 149,250.00 iH 275,000.00 497,500.00 453,420.00 21,595,68 137,359.62 110,538.50 583,404.32 857,640.38 641,381.50 8,800,000.00 11,940,000.00 11,940,000.00 106,150.00 119,400.00 104,475.00 12,150,000.00 12,350,000.00 6,000,000.00 50,390.35 100,004.25 30,154.97 7,922,000.00 10,703,000.00 9,372,000.00 97,325.00 267,575.00 176,745.00 253,865.35 486,979.25 311,374.97 43,400.00 82,965.34 33,780.92 34,064.60 74,599.91 63,073.56 176,400.75 329,414.00 214,520.49 473 768 1,472 m 135,000.00 9,449.88 215,550.12 % 925,000.00 25,781.25 - 5,225,000.00 30,958.25 3,783,000.00 85,117.50 141,857.00 30,417.51 16,266.90 95,172.59 633.00 m 367,115.00 360,000.00 19,294.92 44,179.00 1,130,705.08 495,821.00 6,750,000.00 8,727,355.00 50,625.00 43,636.77 - 2, G55,000.00 6 510,000.00 54,903.31 23,418.26 % ,15,500.00 4,506,0(K).00 41,337.50 79,275.00 194,955.81 146,330.03 13,577.60 15,300.50 16,293.00 24,422.52 165,085.31 106,607.01 1,909.00 888.00 5,081,000.00 7,630,000.00 9.575,000.00 41,043.24 42,164.02 86,175.00 2,544,000.00 4,000,000.00 6,235,000.00 48,700.00 69,212.50 139,345.62 133,519.49 216,691.78 366,614.37 16,488,00 18,488,11 29,690.39 17,801.68 17,200.00 33,544.30 99,229.81 181.003.67 303.379.68 545.00 567.00 1,448.00 13,459.73 4,497,000.00 72,166.25 103,914.09 38,712.24 30,26181 34,937.04 583.00 4,570,000.00 8,470,000.00 49,250.82 31,762.51 5,726,000.00 5,576,00a 00 42,945.00 92,897.48 147,195.82 171,321.99 7,174.83 15,605.24 28,572.74 23,976.80 111,448.25 131,739.95 962 584 33,27a 21 2,693,000.00 53,649.00 218,169.21 20,265.43 16,868.08 181,035.70 610 3,023,872.34 380,924,70a 00 7,348,832.62 17,444/215.94 1,673,265.05 2,378,448.68 13,392,502.21 81,280 H 45,000.00 13 H 45,000.00 92 5 5 r* H 150,000.00 90,000.00 529 4 2H H 432,885.00 90,000.00 464 439 1 200,000.00 187,500.00 175,000.00 550 469 395 2 H % 441,420.00 459,987.50 482,450.00 67,109.15 50,275.42 55,928.59 674,310.85 847,212.08 776,521.41 10,006,000.00 8,963,000.00 13,125,000.00 43,776.25 . 105,315.26 ~ 141,093.75 . 1 63, 177. 72 365,343.05. — — 2,4963,121 547,957.63 170,134.02 968 74,230.05 457 218,071.25 671 273,480.18 1,953 809,485.02 5,302 138,0S0.00 169,107.60 4 2 8,225,000.00 5, re,o, 000.00 431,958.22 S83, 128.29 216,932.27 117,665.55 301,542.08 370,848.37 1,059,799.19 1 If 1 .505 .132,640.00 37*. .rnV>. til 7<i, 101.50 42, 275.00 100,724.00 115,650.00 466,024.19 ' 132,500.00 50,000.00 75,000.00 39,750.00 1 H 28 12 12 14,098,000.00 18,357, (KM). 00 85,943.22 7,109,000.00 ISO, 319.17 20, 211,500.0»> •Hi, 370. 77 4,489. .r)00.00 l(i, 390. 55 2,4f:0, <JW). 00 17,318. OS 5, 41t>, 000.00 93, 367.12 11,300,000.00 95,535.00 21,684,000.00 8,125,000.00 "22, 7lf?t '000.00 7,07<J, 000.00 2,478,000. 00 5,600,000.00 701 ,'953." 18*""i5*66or666.~66~ ""225,"666166" 12,000,000.00 630,518.96 130,000.00 8,000,000.00 221,577.18 57,600. 00 5,000,000.00 267,435.14 65,833.33 3,650,000.00 180,622.89 71,250.00 70,458. OG 2 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 . 0 0 40,000.00 220,000.00 298,500.00 149,250.00 • 206 -.IIIIIIIIIII: . 25" 48 61 36 40 ""I50,"666i60" 1 i* 105,000.00. 138,125.00 108,371.13 "19,"600," 666.60" """47,~506."66" 101,265.79 150,000.00 4 3 3 1 10,500,000.00 ' 5,355,000.00 4,379,000.00 980,159.26" ""30,"000,"666i60" ""156,"oooloo" "17,"2561660.60^ " " " 6 9 , " 6 6 6 i 0 6 " "13,600,"666166" 15,000,000.00 1,003,999.35 7,860,000.00 166,250.00 18,000,000.00 658,688.31 7,785,000.00 146,752.50 30,000,000.00 1,291,574.33 13,620,000.00 238,240.00 12,500,000.00 715,405.06 5,892,000.00 78,125.00 10,000,000.00 166,869.63 1,559,000.00 74,440.00 7,500,000.00 347,381.12 3,750,000.00 139,610.80 10,000,000.00 293.503.52 6,425,000.00 63,660.74 10,000,000.00 416.729.53 5,500,000.00 95,833.33 GO 1* — -.. 18,000.000. (HI1 135,000. (M1l 10,450,000.00 ^ 78,375.00 34.134,000. Of•! ' • :t2i, *_v>:i. r,n 9, <K)0,000. (X(J ill, -JW. <K) 6,000. 000, 00 59,0(X). 00 15,000,000. (JO 153,500. 00 12,862,500.00 161,831.25 . 21,600,000.00 234,900. 00 *'26,"334; 606.66 263, 340. 00 150,000.00 — —— 215,000.00 1 l l 1 3 - 1 ; 378 97 92 90 88 89 76 3 5 - 1 135,000.00 "~~32O,~66O.~66~ 3" ""iso^oooloo" 256,250.00 231,512, 50 i 361,995.00 X .125,000.00 X 74,440.00 139,610.80 I . . 1.86 63,661.74 .64 95,833.33 .9583 1 1 ... — 1 1.04 m 2 1 2 1 95 do 100,000.00 158,333.33 140,000.00 119,791.66 39,125.00 70,000.00 1 1 1 4 97H i 1.583 1.03J* .80 r 2 ... ... do III.-do do 3 1 1 1 1 — do 93 94 90 H panama Rennblfr of Panaind — - do 2,718,000.00 2,198,000.00 1,093,500.00. 150,000.00 250,000.00 337,500.00 7 4 do do 96 H 1 1 m 0 5 —- do-_V5H do 94 do 51 do 93 ...do 97 92 " . . . d o 91H 07H do V3H do97 do 95 2 3 3 5 --- m 94 HAITI Republic of Haiti II- 100 H % 22 96 15 i 200,000.00 36 H 1 2 100,000.00 . 250,000.00 . 175,000.00 . 37 62 *Ut AM 0« 39 JOf lu4> 58 H 58,000.00 285 m 241,832.50 28,579.10 297,715.72 4,737,500.00 18,288.11 . 422 30 lh H 312,500.00 112,500.00 341 454 2 X 191,845.00 614,180.00 43,077.5G 72,863.21 711,267.44 805,316.79 5,500,000.00 9,240,000.00 55,000.00 46,662.00 . 75,000.00 163 2 150,000.00 17,918.58 394,581.42 5,625,000.00 56,250.00 250,000.00 . •ri enA An 151,500.00 • - 75,000.00 19,699,408.87 . 1 0,120,000.00 5,108,000.00 2,800,000.00 2,555,000. 00 4,809,000.00 48.090.00 3,3/6 250.00 49,510." 50* 42,296.36 19.155.00 34.833.01 13.811.62 6,000,000.00 oqo / 4 1H 112,50a 00 1,287,500.00 - 163 1 8,898,232.50 21,755,840.25 4,030,638.15 37,560,343.47 653,365,105.00 5,000,00a 00 75,000.00 4,295,000.00 6,327,325.02 106,343,00a 00 744,185.96 429,783,125.00 92928—31. (Face p. 162.) No. 3 Issues managed by National City Co. covering Canadian and Cuban issues Date offered CANADA City of Toronto Province of Nova Scotia Province of Manitoba Province of Nova Scotia Province of Manitoba Province of Saskatchewan City of Toronto , Caqpdlan Pacific Ry Province of Ontario Province of Alberta * City of Winnipeg— Canadian Pacific By Greater Winnipeg Water District Duke Price Power Co. (Ltd.) Canadian Pacific RySt. Maurice Paper Co. (Ltd.) Province of Alberta Do...? Canadian Pacific Ry City of Toronto — Province of Ontario Abitibi Power <fc Paper Co. (Ltd.) Do . Do Canadian Pacific Ry Province of Ontario Canadian Pacific Ry Province of Ontario Cityof Toronto Canadian Pacffic Ry. Province of Ontario— CUBA Cuban American Sugar Co Cuban Telephone Co Cuba R. R. Co —Sugar Estates of Oriente (Inc.) Camaguey Sugar Co Vertiente Sugar Co.. Cuba Northern Ry— Cuban Dominican Sugar Co.. Cuba R. R, Co-— Edificio La Metropolitana, S, A Cuba R. R..Co. Cuba Northern Ry. Co---National Hotel of Cuba Units... Cuban American Sugar Co.1 Average. - Apr. 19.1920 Aug. 6.1920 Mar. 1.1921 Mar. 30.1921 May 15,1921 Aug. 1,1921 Sept. 29,1921 Dec. 20.1921 Sept. 11.1922 Sept. 21.1922 May 29.1923 Oct. 30,1923 Jan. 12,1921 Aug. 1,1924 Aug. 4,1921 Dec. 1,1924 Apr. 15,1925 Juno 15,1925 Sept. 16, 1920 Apr. 5, 1927 Oct. 2GJ927 Apr. 27,1928 May 28,1928 June 28,1928 Nov. 15.1928 May 6,1929 June 28.1929 Dec. 4,1929 Feb. 18.1930 Feb. 21,1930 May 14,1930 July 11.1930 Jan. 13.1931 Mar. 8,1921 Oct. 5,1921 Dec. 7.1921 Sept. 12,1922 Nov. 9.1922 Dec. 12,1922 Mar. 21,1924 July 1.1924 Oct. 23,1924 Mar. 2.1925 Apr. 7.1926 Juno 3.1926 June 2.1927 Aug. 21,1929 Mar. 2,1931 Amount of issue Rate Maturity Per cent BH 1920-1950 1, 1928 c Apr. Mar. 1, 1926 5 Apr. 1,1926 6 May 15,1931 6 Aug. 1,1927 6 July 1, 1925-1951 G Debenture stock 4 : 5 Apr. 1,1952 Sept. 15,1942 5 5 June 1,1943.. Debenture stock 4 5 Jan. 1, 1929.. July 1,1949 _____ 6 Debenture stock 4 Dec. 1,1929 1 5J4 Apr. 15, 1950 5 4M June 15,1945 4]A Sept. 1,19-16 4H Apr. 1, 1928^-1957 VA Nov. 1, 1928-1957 6 Cumulative preferred stock.. do __ 6 June 1,1953 Debenture stock 4 May l, 1959 .... 5 5 July l, 1944 Dec. 2,1980 5 Feb. 1, 1930-1959 5 Sept. 1, 1953 Apr. 1,1931-1950 5 4 H July 1,1960 VA Jan. 15, 1932*1971..— $1,905,000.00 500,000.00 1,000,000.00 1,500,000.00 2,079,000.00 3,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 25,000,000.00 15,000,000.00 3,000,000.00 1,000,000.00 5,000,000. 00 2,030,000.00 12,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 2, COO, 000. 00 3,740,000.00 2,250,000.00 20,000,000.00 8,800,000.00 24, 000, 000. 00 16, 000,000. 00 10,000,000. 00 50,000,000. 00 5,000,000. 00 35,000,000.00 30,000,000.00 30,000,000.00 5,590,000.00 2,000,000.00 13,396,000.00 25,000,000.00 30,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 4,000,000.00 4,000,000.00 6,000, 000 00 6,000,000.00 10,000,000.00 1,6S0,000. 00 4,500,000.00 15,000,000.00 794,000.00 1,200,000.00 20,000,000.00 1,376,000.00 6,250,000.00 1,065,000.00 B 7H m 7 7 7 m 6 r 7 0 m 6 8 Mar. 8, 1925 Sept. 1,1941 Dec. 1, 1936 ! Sept. 1, 1942 Oct. 15, 1942 Dec. 1, 1942 Mar. 1, 1925/32. •July 1, 1966— Nov- 1, 1944 July 1, 1952 Jan. 1, 1945 Dec. 1,1936 June 1, 1942 -— Sept. 1, 1959 (and common)-, Mar. 15, 1930 - Cost price Offering price $94.18 89.80 88.30 91.41 89.15 91.10 96.18 74.00 97.41 97.42 95.79 77.00 97.14 95.00 79.00 95.00 99.16 94.50 94.00 98.35 99.31 97.50 97.50 90.00 85.50 99.15 97.50 100.81 97.60 98.95 100.214 95.50 98.67 $95.25 92.00 89.25 93.375 91.50 92.875 98.54 78.00 99.25 98.045 97.50 79.50 98.50 99.00 81.00 98.75 100.00 96.17 96.50 99.38 100.04 102.00 102.00 94.50 88.00 100.00 99.50 101.50 98.975 100.00 101.18 98.00 100.50 95.00 87.50 93.50 92.00 93.00 92.00 93.50 84.50 90.00 85.00 93.00 96.00 95.50 93.00 +80.61 100.00 95.00 99.50 97.50 97.50 97.50 +198.587 88.50 97.50 87.50 100.00 99.50 98.50 100.00 91.00 Participation Our gross spread Opr profit Per cent 1.07 2.20 .95 1.965 2.35 1.775 2.36 4.00 1.84 .625 1.71 2.50 1.36 4.00 2.00 3.75 .84 1.67 2.50 1.03 .73 4.50 4.50 4.50 2.50 .85 2.00 .69 1.375 1.05 .97 2.50 1.83 $4,221.90 7,407.40 9,500.00 3,139.95 . 7,417.96 13,526.18 48,515.66 159,292.46 32,741.77 18,750.00 ; 7.671.00 11,547.38 U, 340.72 210,053.24 33,704.55 25,009.97 12,522.15 8,855.00 103,300.13 1,601.72 19,338.69 195,829.62 99,641.59 448* 501.57 28,000.98 35,821.75 113,375.45 ; 9,285.06 7,939.93 1,571.42 14,152.75 117,575.42 §1,021,45 5.00 7.50 6.00 5.50 4.50 5.50 1, 260,000.00+ 15.007 5.00 3,627,500.00 7.50 11,250,000.00 2.50 595,500.00 1,200,000.00 7.00 3.50 1,032,000.00 3.00 6,000,000.00 7.00 4,687,500.00 1,065,000.00 4*10.38 181,531.16 122,957.00 191,308.47 225,492.42 168,875.92 332,316.88 66,275.05 137,672.74 543,376.58 10,008.86 72,715.97 31,158.52 212,554.52 236,031.00 £5,421.07 $635,000.00 400,000.00 1,000,000.00 500,000.00 693,000.00 1,250,000.00 3,333,334.00 6,450,500.00 3,562,500.00 3,000,000.00 500,000.00 1,912,500.00 1,030,000.00 9,000,000.00 2,700,000.00 650,000.00 1,870,000.00 1,125,000.00 6,600,000.00 2,934,000.00 4,800,000.00 7,000,000.00 4,375,000.00 10,750,000.00 2,325,000.00 5,000,000.00 9,180,000.00 6,000,000.00 802,000.00 290,000.00 1,914,000.00 6,825,000.00 5,000,000.00 5,000,000.00 3,000,000.00 3,000,000.00 4,500,000.00 4,500,000.00 7,500,000.00 General expense $3,084.00 1,434.00 6,280.00 1,293.68 5,721.08 13,407.80 18,205.72 19.276.46 5,620.54 18,840.00 4,207.88 4,618.32 5,607.20 21.813.90 3,719.50 3,762.50 10,554.66 7,632.02 16,276.71 16,678.00 30.579.92 32,478.98 21,57a 01 76,674.89 10,783.48 20,760.30 21,759.87 33,300.36 7,205.88 1,690.70 12.295.47 27.266.91 24.547.93 Net profit $1,137.90 5,973.40 3,220.00 1.846.27 1,696.88 118.38 30,309.94 140,016.00 27,121.23 90.00 Amount of $514,000.00 239,000.00 1,000,000.00 206,000.00 911,000.00 2,135,000.00 2,899,000.00 3,069,500.00 1,037,000.00 3,000,000.00 604,000.00 3,463.12 6,929.06 662,600.00 t ,266.48 1,304,000.00 188,239.34 5,073,000.00 29,985.05 865.000.00 21,247.47 875,000.00 1,967.49 1,719,000.00 1,222.98 1,243,000.00 87,023.42 2,681,500.00 15,076.28 3,100,000.00 11,241.23 5,684,000.00 163,35a 64 4,826,000.00 78,068.58 3,205,000.00 371,826.68 11,393,000.00 17.217.50 1,602,300.00 15,061.45 2,970,000.00 91,615.58 3,113,000.00 2101$. SO 4,764,000.00 734.05 1,236,000.00 119.28 290,000.00 1.857.28 2,109,000.00 4,677,000.00 90.308.51 5,443,000.00 6,473.52 23,772.55 3,665.58 7,945.63 6,886.42 38,951.20 224,958.14 796.02 167,08a 88 112,206.90 109,981.59 205,118.64 143,304.36 291,333.55 59,051.05 126,806.64 519,604.03 6,343.28 64,770.34 24,272.10 173,603.32 11,072.86 24,625.05 92928—31; (Face p. 162.) 14*450.28 10,750.10 21,326.88 20,373.78 25,571.56 40,983.33 7,224.00 10,866.10 2,301,000.00 1,711,800.00 3,396,000.00 3,759,000.00 4,718,000.00 7,561,500.00 1,680,000.00 2,527,000.00 5,528,500.00 597,000.00 1,309,000.00 1,134,500.00 7,240,000.00 1,584,100.00 176,500.00 No. 4 SALE OF F O R E I G N BONDS Oil S E C U R I T I E S 163 SAMPLES OF CIRCULARS OK GERMAN OFFERINGS AEG—$15,000,000 ALLCiEMElKE ELEKTRICITATS GESELLSCHAFT (OEKERAL ELECTRIC CO., GERM ANT) 20-YEAR 6 PER CENT GOLD SINKING FUND DEBENTURES Debentures dated M a y 192S; due M a y 1, 1048. Sinking fund beginning September 15, 1933, sufficient to redeem by maturity, in substantially equal semiannual installments, one-half of the debentures out* standing on that date. Interest payable November 1 and M a y 1. Coupon debentures in denominations of $1,000 and $500, registrable as to principal only. Principal, interest, and^sinking fund payable in N e w York C i t y in united States gold coin of the ?resent standard of weight and fineness, at the National City Bank of New 'ork, trustee, without deduction for any past, present, or future taxes or duties levied by or within the German Reich. Sinking fund payments m a y be made either in debentures of this issue or in cash, and any cash so paid w i l l b e applied to^the redemption of debentures at 100. Issue also redeemable as a whole but not in part on any interest date on 3 0 days' notice, at 102 up to and including May 1, 1933, at 101 up to and including M a y 1, 1938, and a t par on any interest date thereafter. Trustee, the National Citv Bank of New York. Principal and interest shall also be collectible, at the option of the holders, a t the city office of the National City Bank of N e w York, in London, England, in pounds sterling, at the then c u r r e n t buying rate of the said bank for sight exchange on New York City. These debentures will be direct credit obligations of the A E G , which will covenant in the trust agreement that it will not execute any mortgage upon, or make any pledge of, any part of its properties or assets without providing for the security of these debentures, either in priority t o or, at the option of the company, equally and ratably with the other obligations or liabilities to be secured by such mortgage or pledge. The following is summarised from the accompanving letter of Messrs. Bttcher and PfefTer, managing directors of the Allgcmeine Elektricit&ts Gesellschaft: The company was originally incorporated in 1883 under the name of the German Edison Co., to exploit the Thomas A . Edison patents for incandescent lamps. In 1887 its corporate name was changed to "Allgemeine Elektricitats Gesellschaft," since known the world over as the A E G . For many years A E G has enjoyed a cooperative relationship with the General Electric Co. (America) under a contract which provides for the exchange and mutual use of patents, technical knowledge, and experience. This relationship has been a source of strength to both companies. A E G manufactures all forms of electrical apparatus from the largest turbo* generator set to a flashlight bulb. During the fiscal years 1910-1914, inclusive, total business averaged over $85,000,000 per annum and in some years exceeded $100,000,000. In recent years gross sales have increased from approximately $54,000,000 in the fiscal year ended September 30, 1924, to over $100,000,000 in the fiscal year ended September 30, 1927, and it is believed that the current year will show a further substantial increase. T h e company's products have achieved a world-wide reputation for quality and efficiency. Except for the charge or lien in favor of the so-called Dawes debentures, the capital amount of which has been fixed at the equivalent of $6,115,000, the only outstanding liens on any of the company's properties are small mortgages to the extent of about $965,000. The balance sheet of the company as of September 30, 1927, indicates net tangible assets, after deducting all liabilities except funded debt, of more than $73,750,000, as against total funded debt then outstanding of $21,352,232. The plant machinery carried at a figure of less than $5,500,000 has a replacement value estimated* to considerably exceed $50,000,000. All the company's valuable models, patents and tools, as well as furniture and fixtures are carried in the balance sheet at less than one dollar. During the first 3 0 years of its history, the company enjoved a practically continuous record of prosperity, as indicated in the increase of its capital stock from about $1,190,000 to the equivalent of $36,890,000 in addition to which its reserves (surplus) on June 30, 1914, aggregated about $22,776,000. A t present quotations the market value of the company's share capital is equal to nearly $70,000,000. T h e company has regularly increased its dividend during recent years from 5 per cent for the fiscal year ended September 30, 1924, t o 8 per cent for the fiscal year ended September 30, 1927. 164 SALE OF FOItEIGN BONDS OH SECURITIES 164 For the five years ended June 3 0 , 1 9 1 4 , the net earnings available for dividends after deducting all interest, tax, and depreciation charges, averaged $5,366,885 per annum. In every year, since 1915 the company's operations have shown a profit. During the four years ended September 30, 1927, the net earnings after deducting all interest and tax charges except income taxes but before deducting depreciation, averaged $3,888,973 per annum, and the net earnings available for dividends after all charges averaged $2,225,917 per annum. Application will be made to list these debentures on the N e w York Stock Exchange. Price on application. THE NATIONAL CITT C o . , . National City Bank Building, New Yvth Fifteen offices in the metropolitan throughout the world. district, Offices in the leading cities BERLIN, June 5f 1928. THE NATIONAL CITT Co., 65 Wall Street, New York, N. Y. DEAR SIRS: In connection with the issuance of $15,000,000 principal amount 20-year 6 per cent gold sinking-fund debentures of the Allgemeine ElektricitatsGesellschaft (General Electric Co., Germany), we take pleasure in giving you the following information: PURPOSE OF ISSUE The proceeds of this issue will be used partly to reimburse the treasury for capital expenditures and to provide additional working capital in line with the increase in the company's business and for other corporate purposes. SINKING FUND AND REDEMPTION A sinking fund beginning September 15, 1933, will be provided which will be sufficient to redeem by maturity one-half of the debentures outstanding on that date in substantially equal semiannual installments at 100. T h e outstanding debentures may also be redeemed, at the option of the company, as a whole but not in part, on any interest date prior to maturity, on 3 0 day's' noticc, at 102 and accrued interest up to and including M a y 1, 1933, at 101 and accrued interest up to and including May 1, 1938, and at par and accrued interest on any interest date thereafter. EARNINGS The company's earnings prior to 1914 reflected its steady growth and consistent prosperity. For the five years ending June 30, 1914, the net earnings available for dividends, after deducting all interest, tax, and depreciation charges, averaged $5,366,885 per annum. I n every year since 1915 the company's operations have shown a profit. For the four years ended June 30, 1918, the net earnings available for dividends (translated into dollars at the approximate rate prevail' i n g a t the end of each year) averaged $5,307,262. During the year ended September 30, 1924, the books of the company were placed on a gold basis, and net earnings for that and subsequent years were as follows: Year ending Sept. 30— Net earnings after interest Net earnings Dividend and taxes ex- for year rate cept income available lor tax but before dividends depreciation Percent^ $3,201,107 3,523,779 3,980,452 <850,554 $1,719,143 1,901,520 2.453,005 2,830,000 6 7 9 The gross sales of the company increased from approximately $54,000,000 in the fiscal year ended September 3 0 , 1 9 2 4 , to over $100,000,000 in the fiscal year ended September 30, 1927, and orders on hand indicate a very substantial increase i» business for the current year. The company now employs nearly 65,000 people. S A L E O F FOREIGN BONDS Oil S E C U R I T I E S 165 Except as otherwise stated German currency in this letter has been converted into United States currency at the rate of 4.20 reischsmarks to the dollar. BALANCE SHEET The balance sheet as of September 30, 1026, as compared with the balance sheet of September 3 0 , 1 9 2 7 , as approved b y the stockholders, is shown below: 1928 1927 ASSSTS Real estate, plant and equipment (less depredation) Stocks of subsidiary and other companies Other investments Mortgages Merchandise and materials Accounts receivable Due from branches, subsidiary, and affiliated companies. Acceptances..* Cash and with banks (net) Treasury stock Bond discount Due from stockholders on stock subscriptions Total assets.. Capital stock: Common.... Preferred.... Preferred B. $24,669,684 16,527,237 7,664,175 133,021 15,812,478 9,245,878 20^ 219,139 3,587,831 6,361,870 167,411 952,381 5,357,143 91,941,208 110,698,248 28,571,429 4,166,660 4,464,286 35,714,286 4,166,666 4,464,286 37,202,381 3,838,095 1,028,785 10,000,000 7,000,000 3,722,723 966,373 81,853 2,562,104 44,345,238 5,266,667 1,071,429 10,000,000 6,873,000 3,415,786 964,723 98,723 4,984,138 8,537,835 4,214,451 13,522,006 4,391,053 72,482 2,940^717 91,941,208 110,698,248 UlAIUTttfl Total capital stock General reserve.. ---Welfare reserve 20-year sinking fund 7 per cent gold debentures, due Jan. 15,1945-. 15-year 6H per cent sold sinking fund debentures, due Dec. 1,1940. Revalorized mark loans — Mortgages... 122,129,705 15,154,674 8,038,198 126,190 21,672,368 7,498,305 11,931,934 2,382,733 815,204 774,554 1,357,143 . Called mark bonds not yet redeemed Prepayments by customers.* Accounts payable — Balances due on contracts Due branches, subsidiary, and affiliated companies..... Savings bank deposits. Uncollected dividends, Interest, etc...* — Profit and loss account — Total liabilities.- 6*844,061 7,599,726 2,735,684 8,359,423 All of our valuable models, patents, and tools, as well as our furniture and fixtures, are carried in the above balance sheet a t a total valuation of less than one dollar. A11 our machinery is carried a t a figure of less than $5,500,000, although we are quite prepared t o state that it would cost considerably more than $50,000,000 to replace to-day. The capital stock of the company was increased on September 19, 1927. b y an issue of reichsmark 30,000,000 par value of additional common stock, so that the total outstanding common stock is now reichsmark 150,000,000, which stock is now quoted on the Berlin Stock Exchange at about 170 per cent, thus indicating, together with the preferred stock outstanding, a n equity of nearly $70,000,000. CHARACTER OF OBLIGATIONS These debentures will be the direct credit obligations of the company, which will covenant in the trust agreement securing them that so long as any of the debentures remain outstanding and unpaid, the company will not execute any mortgage upon or make any pledge of any part of its properties and assets, either real or personal, unless such mortgage or agreement of pledge shall provide for the security of these debentures either in priority to, or, a t the option of the company* equally and ratably with the bonds, nojtes or other obligations or liabilities, of whatsoever character, which are t o be secured by such mortage or pledge. Except for the charge or lien in favor of the so-called Dawes debentures, the capital amount of which has been fixed at the equivalent of $6,115,000, the only outstanding liens on any of the company's properties are small mortgages to the 166 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES extent of about $965,000, of which about $660,000 represents mortgages on new plants acquired in 1926. The company will also covenant in the trust agreement not to take advantage of the provision of the German law, under which the Dawes debentures have been created, to register an owner's mortgage in its own name to the extent that it may at any time have redeemed or repaid such debentures. The company has outstanding approximately $3,415,786 of reichsmark obligations due over varying periods from 1932 to 1953 which under the revalorization law (Aufwertungsgesetz) of the German Reich are entitled to interest at 5 per cent and to certain beneficial annual payments based upon the dividend paid on the common stock of the company, such total payments now aggregating approximately $208,000 but which in any event would be below $226,000 per annum. * The company also has outstanding two issues of dollar debentures issued in the United States in 1925 of which there were outstanding an aggregate total of $16,873,000 on September 30, 1927. The trust agreement will further provide that the company will not pay any cash dividends on its capital stock subsequent to September 30, 1927, except out of net earnings. HISTORY AND BUSINESS The company was originally incorporated in 1883 under the name of German Edison Co., to exploit the Thomas A. Edison patents for incandescent lamps. Shortly .thereafter it extended its scope to cover the manufacture of electrical machines, apparatus and instruments of every nature, and its corporate name was accordingly changed in 1887 to "Allgemeiiiie Elektricitats Gesellschaft" which has since become well known the world over as the AEG. The company was, and has always continued to be, a pioneer in the electrical industry and through unceasing research and experimental work and by painstaking workmanship and prudent business management the company enjoyed in the first thirty years of its history a practically continuous record of prosperity, unsurpassed, so far as we know, by any other company of a similar character outside of the United States, and its products achieved a world-wide reputation for quality and efficiency. During this period the company's original capital stock of about $1,190,000 increased to the equivalent of $36,890,000; in addition to which its reserves (surplus) on June 30, 1914, aggregated about $22,776,000. In no year during this entire period did the company fail to pay a dividend upon its capital stock. The average rate paid was 10.38 per cent per annum, and in no year subsequent to 1893 was the annual rate less than 8 per cent. The company's plants are of modern, fireproof construction, equipped with up-to-date, machinery and apparatus, and in addition to the manufacturing plants include the necessary warehouses, power houses, administration buildings and laboratories. In and around Berlin and elsewhere the company owns about 197 acres of real estate, upon 119 acres of which have been loeateel the central administration and manufacturing buildings containing more than 10,000,000 square feet of floor space. The company's products include almost every conceivable form of electrical apparatus and appliances, from an electric locomotive, or a turbo-generator set capable of delivering 80,000 kilowatts to a pocket flash-light bulb. It manufactures electric and steam-locomotives, steam-turbines, Diesel engines, broadcasting and radio-receiving apparatus, meters and other recording instruments, motors and generators and all kinds of central-station and substation equipment. I t not only manufactures and sells, but also undertakes the construction of electric light and power-transmission systems, central-power stations, electric railways and electro-chemical works. The company's products are distributed within Germany through 79 offices and branches, most of which have their own repair plants and erecting organizations. Abroad it is represented in practically every country of Europe and also in Mexico, South America, South Africa China and India. Our total business for the fiscal years 1910-1914 inclusive, averaged over $85,000,000 per annum, and in some years has exceeded $100,000,000. While the year ended September 30,1927 proved to be a record vear for the period since the war, with sales again exceeding $100,000,000, it is believed that the current year will show a further substantial increase* At the present time over one-third of the company's business is done outside of Germanv. SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil S E C U R I T I E S 167 During the last decade, the development of the company lias necessarily l>cen along the line of strengthening the cconoinic basis of our business by establishing closer relations with producers of certain necessary raw materials and unfinished products. In this connection we m a y state that our company has always been one of the largest single customers of the American copper* industry. " In the past year we bought a very large quantity of copper from America, besides considerable quantities of zinc, silver, oil, benzine, lead, etc. For many years there has existed between our company and the General Electric Co., in the United States, a very happy and cooperative friendship. Under a contract that still has many years to run we have agreed to the exchange and use of each others' patents, technical knowledge, and experience in the electric field. W e believe that this relationship has been and will continue to be, a cource of mutual strength to both companies. A LLG EM EI X E E LE KTRICITATS-G ESELLSCH A FT, HERMANN BOCHER, AUGUST PFEFFER, Managing Directors* (The information contained in this circular has been obtained from official statements and statistics and from other sources which we consider reliable. W e do not quarantce, but believe it to be correct.) NEW ISSUE OF 120,000,000 RHINE-WESTPHALIA ELECTRIC POWER CORPORATION (RUEIN1SCH-WESTFALI8CHES ELEKTRIZtTATSWERK AKTIEN-GESELLSCHAFT) CONSOLIDATED MORTGAGE GOLD BONDS, 6 PER CENT, SERIES OF 1928, CARRYING CERTAIN STOCK PURCHASE RIGHTS FOR 41 AMERICAN SHARES1' Bonds to be dated August 1, 192S; due August 1, 1953. . Interest payable February 1 and August 1. Principal and interest payable in New York City in United States gold coin of the present standard of weight and fineness at the head office of the National City Bank of New York, without deduction for any past, present, or future taxes or duties levied by or within the German Reich. Principal and interest will also be collectible at the option of the holders, at the city office of the National City Bank of New York, in London, England, in pounds sterling, or a t the Credit Suisse, Zurich, Switzerland, in Swiss francs, in cach case a t the then current buying rate of the said banks for sight exchange on New York Citv. Coupon bonds in denominations of $ 5 0 0 and $1,000, registrable as to principal only. Redeemable at the option of the corporation as a whole, or in part, at any time, upon 30 days' notice, at 102 and accrued interest, if redeemed on or before August 1, 1933; a t 101 and accrued interest, thereafter to and including August 1, 1943; and a t 100 and accrued interest, thereafter. Also redeemable in part through operation of the sinking fund, on any interest date, upon 3 0 {lays' notice, a t 100 and accrued interest. Trustee, the National City Bank of New Y o r k ; co-trustee, Darmstadter und Nationalbank Kommanditgesellschaft auf Aktie'n. The following is summarized in part from the accompanying letter of Messrs. Henke and Schinitz, managing directors of the Rheinisch-Westfalisches Elektrizitatswerk Aktien-Gcsellschaft: The Rhine-Westphalia Electric Power Corporation with its subsidiaries comprises one of the largest electric light and power systems in Europe, with respect to property value, earnings, capacity of power stations and number of customers. The territory served embraces a large part of the Rhineland, including the Ruhr district, the most important industrial section of Germany. This territory has an area of about 9 , 3 6 0 square miles and a population of over 8,000,000. The consolidated earnings of the corporation and certain of its wholly owned subsidiary companies* including only a portion of the earnings of the many other companies in which the corporation has a substantial and profitable SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES 168 interest, for the three fiscal years ended June 3 0 , 1 9 2 5 , 1 9 2 6 , and 1927, respectively, were as follows: Fiscal years ended June 30— Gross earnings, including nonoperating income Operating expenses, maintenance, and taxes 1027 1935 1026 $24,266,224 16,563,657 $23,6S8, "50 15,165,502 $26,065,563 10,992,064 7,702,267 8,523,1M 9,073,479 Net earnings, before reserves for renewals and replacements ....... ......... The earnings statement for the year ended June 30, 1928, is not yet available. It is fully expected that it will show earnings in excess of those for the year ended June 30,1927, which exceeded all previous years in the history of the corporation in point of earnings. Indications are that "the current year will set another new record, output during the past few months having increased approximately 23 per cent over the corresponding period of the previous year. The net earnings of $9,973,479 for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1927, as shown above, compare with annual charges of $3,049,985,-constituting interest requirements on the mortgage debt, including this issue, and estimated maximum fixed charges on industrial debentures issued under the Dawes plan. The consolidated mortgaged gold bonds will be secured by direct mortgages on the operating properties of the corporation, subject to $5,189,524 industrial debentures issued under the Dawes plan and $24,252,500 (closed issue) direct mortgage gold bonds. The trust indenture under which these bonds will be issued will contain conservative restrictions governing the issuance of additional bonds thereunder. The trust indenture will also provide for a cumulative sinking fund calculated to retire by maturity over 56 per cent of the bonds of the 6 per cent series of 1928. Each $1,000 bond will carry a stock-purchase right, evidenced by an appropriate warrant, nondetachable until January 1, 1929, entitling the holder to purchase, after January 1, 1929, and on or before August 1, 1931, four American shares, each issued against the deposit with the trustee's agent in Berlin of 100 reichsmarks ($23.81) par value of the common stock (bearer shares) of the corporation. The price to be paid for each American share will be as follows: $50 if purchased after January 1, 1929, and prior to August 1, 1929; $52.50 if purchased on or after August 1, 1929, and prior to August 1, 1930; and $55 if purchased on or after August 1, 1930, and on or prior to August 1, 1931, after which date the purchase rights will be void. T h e current market price of the German shares on the Berlin Stock Exchange indicates a market value for the American shares of approximately $50 a share. These bonds are listed on the N e w York Stock Exchange. Price on application. A substantial amount of these bonds has been withdrawn by Credit Suisse, Zurich, for Switzerland. Additional amounts have also been withdrawn for other European markets. THE NATIONAL CITT CO., National City Bank Building, New York. Twenty-one offices in the metropolitan district. throughout the world. Offices in the leading citics RHEINISCH-WESTFALISCHES ELEKTRIZITATSWERK AKTIEN-GESELLSCHAFT, E$sen, Germany, September 36, 1928. THE NATIONAL CITT Co., 55 Wall Street, New York City. DEAR SIRS: In connection with the proposed issue of $20,000,000, principal amount, consolidated mortgage gold bonds, 6 per cent, series of 1928, of the Rheinisch-Westfalisches Elektrizitatswerk Aktien-Gesellschaft, hereinafter referred to a s t h e Rhine-Westphalia Electric Power Corporation, we t a k e pleasure in giving you the following information: SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 169 The Rhine-Westphalia Electric Power Corporation has experienced a remarkable growth since its organization in 1S9S, and at the present time, with its subsidiary companies, comprises one of the largest electric light and power systems in Europe with respect to property value, earnings, capacity of power stations and number of customers served. The business of the corporation is especially well integrated. Electric energy is generated in the corporation's power stations from fuel obtained from tne adjoining coal mines of subsidiary companies, and is supplied to over 440,000 industrial and residential customers through the corporation's high tension transmission lines and distribution systems. The territory served has an area of about 9,360 square miles, and includes a large part of the Rhincland, extending from the Netherlands frontier on the north and west, into the Province of Westphalia on the east, and south to the River Nahe. This area includes the Ruhr district, the most important industrial section of Germany, and also the so-called Siegerland, known for its iron-ore deposits. As there are numerous industries of a widely diversified character, the prosperity of the territory is not dependent on the success of any one business. Among the more important industries arc included iron and steel works, iron-ore mines, hardware factories, coal mines, lignite (brown coal) mines, textile plants, leather factories, electro chemical works, dye works, and oleomargarine plants* In addition, the territory contains large areas of fertile farm land which produces excellent crops of many kinds. The communities entirely supplied by the system have a population of over 8,000,000 and include the cities of Essen, MuhlheimRuhr, Gelsenkirchcn, Grcfeld, Munchen-Gladbach, Wesel, Osnabruck, Rcmscheid, Solingcn, Siegen, Bingcn, Kreuznach, and Ncuss. In addition, the corporation furnishes electric energy to large portions of the cities of Cologne, Dusseldorf, Duisburg, Coblcnz, and Oberhausen, and to the extensive plants of the largest inland harbor of Europe at Ruhrort. The electric output of 1,650,000,000 kilowatt-hours for the fiscal year ended June 30, 192S, was the greatest in the history of the corporation; and of this amount, about 81 per cent was generated in the corporation's power stations. ttlOPERTtES The system includes nine electric generating stations with an aggregate capacity of 700,000 horsepower. The principal station of the corporation, the Goldenberg lant, is one of the largest and most modem in the world, and has a capacity of 90,000 horsepower. The present construction program provides for a considerable increase in generating capacity, and that of the Goldenberg plant alone will attain 530,000 horsepower. Its equipment includes four 67,000 horsepower steam-turbo units. The transmission and distribution systems comprise over 1,580 miles of 110,000-volt steel tower lines and 15,000 miles of medium and low voltage lines which supply approximately 510,000 electric meters. The above figures for output and property cover only the inter-connected electric system of the corporation and its subsidiaries, which does not include the many affiliated electric companies of whose stocks substantial amounts are owned by the corporation. The fuel for the corporation's power stations is obtained almost entirely from coal and lignite mines owned by subsidiary companies and located under or immediately adjoining the stations. Thecoal mines, estimated to contain 75,000,000 tons (of 2,000 pounds), are being mined at the rate of 1,400,000 tons a year. The lignite mines .are estimated to contain 450,000,000 tons, and the power stations of the corporation, which are designed to burn this fuel efficiently, consume approximately 4,000,000 tons a year. Although lignite (brown coal) has a relatively low heating value as compared with coal, it is mined through surface workings at very low cost because the average depth of the cover of sand is only about 30 feet, below which the liguite deposit extends for about 120 feet. The corporation has consolidated its territories by exchanging its half interest in a company located in central Germany for a majority interest in the Braunkohlen Industrie A. G. " Z u k u n f t " Weisweiler. This enterprise owns lignite mines near Aachen, Germany, and has an electric distribution system in a territory situated between the Dutch frontier and the boundary of the corporation's own territories. During the past year it had sales of 172,500,000 kilowatt-hours, which are not included in the corporation's sales above mentioned. The line of this new subsidiary will be connected with the corporation's own high tension lines. In order to supply the steiulily increasing demand for current in the vast and populous territory extending from the Dutch and Belgian frontiers to southern 170 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES Germany and, further, to the boundaries of Switzerland and Austria, a 220,000volt circuit will shortly be placed in operation. This high tension cable will be connected with hydroelectric power plants in southern Germany and Switzerland as well as with the power plants in the central German lignite coal district. Eventually the system will also include a hydro-electric power plant now under construction near Essen, in the very center of the corporation's territory, which plant will utilize the off-peak surplus of steam generating capacity of the corporation's own plants and of the steel works and coal mines in the Ruhr district, in filling a reservoir to a level of 160 meters, the water thus stored serving to generate current to supply day-time peak requirements. This plant will have a capacity of 190,000 horsepower with an annual output of 200,000,000 kilowatt hours. In addition to the electric and coal properties described above, the corporation owns a modern coke oven plant which supplies gas at wholesale to the city of Essen. The high pressure gas transmission system connected with that plant has been ceded to the " R u h r g a s " in exchange for stock of that company. The latter company was formed to exploit the gas production of practically all the coal mines of the Ruhr district. The corporation also owns the entire capital stock of two relatively small electric railway companies, and operates under lease several municipally owned lines. I t also holds as investments, smaller stock interests in many other public-utility companies. In respect to both revenue and.physical value, however, the electric and coal properties represent over 9 6 per cent of all properties owned pr controlled. PURPOSE OP ISSUE The proceeds from the sale of the present issue of bonds will be used to reimburse the corporation in part for expenditures made in connection with important property additions, to provide funds for further acquisitions and for other corporate purposes. EARNINGS The consolidated earnings of the corporation and certain of its wholly owned subsidiary companies, including only a portion of the earnings of the many other companies in which the corporation has a substantial and profitable interest, for the three fiscal years ended June 30, 1925, 1926, and 1927, respectively, were as follows: Fiscal year ended June 30— Gross earnings, including nonoperating income Operating expenses, maintenance and taxes...... 1925 1920 $24,266,224 16,563,657 123,688,756 15,165,562 7,702,207 8,523,194 Net earnings before reserves for renewals and replacements-, 1927 m9G3.563 16,992. The earnings statement for the year ended June 30, 1928, is not yet available. I t is fully expected that it will show earnings in excess of those for the year ended June 30, 1927, which exceeded all previous years in the history of the corporation in point of earnings. Indications are that the current year will set another new record, output during the past few months having increased approximately 23 per cent over the corresponding period of the previous year. T h e net earnings of $9,973,479 for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1927, as shown above, compare with annual charges of $3,049,985, constituting interest requirements on the mortgage debt, including this issue, and estimated maximum fixed charges on industrial debentures issued under the Dawes plan." VALUE OF PROPERTY As of June 30, 1928, the book value of the physical properties of the corporation and its constituent and proprietary companies (hereinafter referred to) was in excess of $115,250,000, of which properties valued at $87,300,000 are owned directly by the corporation. These figures are especially conservative. estimate that it would be impossible to reproduce these properties in Germanv to-day for less than $145,000,000, and that their cost in the United States would SALE OF F O R E I G N BONDS Oil S E C U R I T I E S 171 £rcatlv exceed this amount. Moreover, these figures do not take into consideration the value of the corporation's holdings of shares in many other public utility and coal mining companies, all of which are also carried on the books at verv conservative amounts. STOCK PURCHASE RIGHTS Each $1,000 bond will carry a stock purchase right, evidenced by an appropriate warrant, nondetachable until January 1, 1929, entitling the holder to purchase, after January 1, 1929, and on or before August 1, 1931, four American shares, each issued against the deposit with the trustee's ajrent in Berlin of 100 reichsmarks (approximately equivalent to $23.81) par value of the common stock (bearer shares) of the Rhine-Westphalia Electric Power Corporation, fully paid and nonassessable. T h e price to be paid for cach American share will be as follows: S50 if purchased after January 1, 1929, and prior to August 1, 1929; $52.50 if purchased on or after August 1, 1929, and prior to August 1, 1930; and $55 if purchased on or after August I, 1930, and on or prior to August 1, 1931, after which date the purchase rights will be void. T h e current market price of the German shares on the Berlin Stock Exchange indicates a market value for the American shares of approximately $50 a share. The capital stock of the corporation amounts to 155,000,000 reichsmarks, par value, of which 150,600,000 reichsmarks, par value,, is represented by bearer shares and 4,400,000 rcichsmarks, par value, b y registered shares. I t is expected that the capital stock will shortly be increased to 181,000,000 rcichsmarks, par value, of which 175,600,000 reichsmarks, par value, will be represented by bearer shares, and 5,400,000 reichsmarks, par value, by registered shares. There also are outstanding Km. 10,500,000 contingent certificates of indebtedness (Genusscheine) created on or about November 30, 1927. Dividends have been paid on the bearer shares of the corporation, as outstanding from time to time, at the rate of 8 per cent for the fiscal year 1925-1926, and at the rate of 9 per cent for the fiscal year 1926-27. After deduction of the German income tax of 10 per cent on dividends, the dividend of 9 per cent is equivalent to 8.1 per cent. The American shares will l»e issued by the National City Bank of New York, as depositary, pursuant to the terms of*a deposit agreement to be entered into between the National City Co., the said the National City Bank of New York and the holders of certificates*issued and to be issued thereunder; and such American shares will be entitled to all dividends and rights accuring from time to time upon the deposited shares. American shares (in multiples of four American shares) will be exchangeable at any time, upon surrender to the depositary and payment of the necessary chargcs, "for the corresponding par value of deposited shares, deliverable at the office of the agent of the depositary in Berlin. The common stock (bearer shares) of the llhine-Wcstphalia Electric Power Corporation sold on the Berlin Stock Exchange on September 24, 1928, at 2 1 2 per cent of par (equivalent to approximately $50 per American share). During the last six months, the price range of the bearer shares has been 175 per cent of par low*, and 2 1 5 per cent of par high. The approximate equivalent price range in dollars of the American snares would be, low, $41,70 a share, and, high, $51 a share. SINKING FUND The mortgage trust indenture will provide for a cumulative sinking fund calculated to retire by maturitv over 56 per cent of the bonds of the 6 per cent series of 1928. This'sinking fund is designed to operate semiannually to retire the bonds of this series, by purchase or redemption, at not exceeding 100 and accrued interest. FRANCHISES AND RATES T h e corporation has franchise contracts with approximately 1,500 communities. In nearly all cases, these contracts have long periods to run, and as such contracts have expired from time to time in the past, they have been extended for additional long terms. Most of the contracts give to the municipalities the right to purchase the distribution systems within their corporate limits, but not the transmission lines or the power stations. T h e high tension transmission lines are located either on private rights of way or on properties for which perpetual easements have been obtained. In the opinion of counsel, the franchises of the corporation and its constituent companies are valid and sufficient. The electric rates charged by the corporation automatically vary from time to time, based on the prevailing'price of coal, and thus assure the continuance of SALE OF FOItEIGN BONDS OH SECURITIES 172 satisfactory profits through proper correlation of charges for service and fud costs. The electric rates to all classes of consumers have been reduced, voluntarily, from time to time until now they are among the lowest in Germany. SECURITY The consolidated-mortgage gold bonds will be secured, in the opinion of counsel, by direct mortgages on the operating properties including real estate, power stations and transmission and distribution systems owned directly by the corporation, subject to charges securing S5,189,524, present amount of industrial debentures and to mortgages securing $24,252,500 (closed issue) direct mortgage gold bonds; and by like direct mortgages on the operating properties of certain subsidiary companies, referred to in the mortgage trust indenture M proprietary companies, subject to charges securing $337,400, present amount* of industrial debentures. In addition, the corporation will covenant that if it should at any time mortgage or pledge any of the properties of certain other subsidiary companies, referred to in the mortgage trust indenture as constituent companies, it will make provision for the prior security of the consolidated mortgage gold bonds. The mortgage trust indenture securing the consolidated mortgage gold bonds will be executed between the corporation, the National City Bank of New York, as trustee, and the Darmstfidtcr und Nationalbank Kommanditgesellschaft auf Aktien, as cotrustee. In connection with the payment of reparations, the corporation and its constituent and proprietary companies have issued and deposited with the Industrial Debentures Bank (Bank far Deutsche Industrie-Obiigationcn), in accordance with the so-called Dawes Plan, industrial debentures in the face amount of $7,015,595 with respect to which the annual charges on account of interest and amortization will not exceed $420,935, in the aggregate. In the opiuion of counsel, the liability of the corporation and its constituent and proprietary companies for the payment of these sums is secured by a first charge, in many respects analogous to a tax lien, upon their fixed property. In accordance with a law which effects a further internal distribution in Germany of the burden of reparations, the annual payments on account of the industrial debentures w probably be considerably reduced so that the maximum annual payments, estt* mated on the basis of present assessments, on account of the industrial debentures of the corporation and its constituent and proprietary companies, is not expected to exceed $300,000, or less than one-half of 1 per cent of the value of their physical properties. ISSUANCE OR ADDITIONAL BONDS The mortgage trust indenture will provide for the issuance, from time to time, of bonds of other series having such rates of interest, maturities, sinking fund* and other provisions, and payable in such places and in such currencies as m*y be determined by the corporation, (a) for refunding purposes, and (b) to the extent of 75 per cent of the cost of the acquisition of additional properties by the corpo£ ation and/or its constituent and/or proprietary companies (as these terms will1be defined in the mortgage trust indenture), when consolidated net earnings ftfwr operating expenses, maintenance and taxes for 12 consecutive calendar montM ending not more than six months prior to the date of authentication of *uC? additional bonds, shall have been not less than three times the sum of the martmum annual fixed charges on the industrial debentures and the annual interest charges on the outstanding direct mortgage gold bonds and consolidated mor£ gage gold bonds, including the consolidated mortgage gold bonds then to w issued, or to the extent of 60 per cent of such cost, when such net earnings sww have been less than three times but more than two and one-half times all sucfl charges as aforesaid, provided, in each case, that the aggregate of the then owstanding consolidated mortgage gold bonds, including those proposed t o t * issued, direct mortgage gold bonds and industrial debentures shall not exceed twice the then paid-in capital of the corporation. MANAGEMENT The various municipalities and provinces served, together with the State ^ Prussia and the German Empire, own a substantial majority of the corporation» stock, thus fostering the good will of the public; at the same time the corporation is under an independent, business management which permits of all the advan* SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 173 tages of efficient private operation. Nearly all of the managing directors have been with the corporation from 15 to 25 years. Yours very truly, RHEINISCH-WESTFALISCIIES ELEKTRIZITATSWERK AKTIEN-GESELLSCHAFT. HENKE, Managing Director. SCIIMITZ, Managing Director. The earnings statement contained in this circular has been prepared by Messrs, Haskins & Sells, certified public accountants, from the books of the corporation and the reports of the constituent companies, in connection with their examination of the books and accounts. Throughout this circular, conversions into United States currency have been made at the rate of 4.2 Reichsmarks to the dollar. The infonnation contained in this circular has been obtained, partly by cable, from sources which wc consider reliable. We do not guarantee, but believe ti to be correct. Preliminary proof—Subject to change. CENTRAL BANK FOR AGRICULTURE, G E R M A N Y — $ 2 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 ; DEUTSCHE R E N TENBANK-KREDITANSTALT LANDWIRTSCHAFTLICHE ZENTRALBANK, FIRST LIEN 7 PER CENT GOLD FARM LOAN SINKING FUND BONDS Dated September 15, 1025; due September 15, 1950. SINKING FUND SUFFICIENT TO PAT OR REDEEM ENTIRE ISSUE BT MATURITY Interest payable March 15 and September 15. Coupon bonds in denominations of $1,000 and $500 registrable as to principal only. Principal, interest, and sinking fund payable in New York City, in united States gold coin of the present standard of weight and fineness, without deduction for any past, present, or future taxes or duties levied by or within the German Reich at The National City Bank of New York, trustee. Such principal and interest shall also be collectible at the option of the holders, cither at the city office of The National City Bank of New York, in London, England, in pounds sterling, or at Amsterdamschc Bank, Amsterdam, Holland, in guilders, in each case at the then current buying rate of such bank for sight exchange on New York City, New York. REICIISBANK, BERLIN, German Supervisory Trustee. Beginning March 15,192G, a cumulative sinking fund will operate semiannually to purchase bonds at not exceeding par and interest, or, if bonds are not obtainable at or below that price, by redemption of bonds by lot semiannually at 100, This fund is sufficient to retire the entire issue by maturity. The issue is also redeemable in whole or in part, in installments of not less than $2,000,000 each, upon thirty days' notice, on September 15, 1935, or on any interest date thereafter, at 100 and interest. The following is summarized from the accompanying letter of Messrs. Kissler and Lipp, managing directors of the Deutsche Rentenbank-Kreditanstalt: The organization committee appointed under the Dawes Plan to recommend detailed provisions in regard to the new bank of issue, suggested that an agricultural credit institution should be formed to which the Rentenbank should transfer its credit balances and which should supply agriculture with the credits urgently needed to replace deficiencies in working capital resulting from the inflation period. The "Central Bank for Agriculture" (Deutsche RentenbankKreditanstalt) has been organized pursuant to this suggestion to act as the central bank for the existing agricultural credit organizations, some of which have been in operation more than one hundred years, and through such existing organizations to use its own resources and loans obtained at home or abroad in making loans or granting credits for the promotion of agricultural production in all its branches. The paid-up capital of the Central Bank for Agriculture amounts to $40,476,190, which may gradually be increased until the capital and surplus reaches the total authorized amount of $129,047,619. Such increase is to be effected by the application of earnings, and through payments to the credit of capital account made by the Rentenbank by transfer of its assets during the period of liquidation; 92928—31—« 174 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES and also from sums received by the latter from the proceeds off the land-charge annuities referred to below. Bond issues are authorized up to six times the paid-up capital but may be increased to eight times with the consent of the Reichsrat, the upper house of the German Parliament. The bonds of this issue are secured by an equivalent amount of mortgages (or cash in lieu thereof), fulfilling the requirements of the German mortgage bank law of 1899, constituting first liens on German agricultural, forestal, and horticultural lands at not exceeding 40 per cent of the official valuation of such lands, subject only to the original Rentenbank land-charge annuity amounting to one-quarter of 1 per cent per annum of the official land valuation, and to any prior existing mortgages for the immediate discharge of which appropriate provision will be niade, and to possible minor charges not of a capital nature for which due allowance will be made in advances made on such mortgages. The Central Bank for Agriculture covenants and the German Government stipulates in its approval of the issue given in conformity with the charter law that the Central Bank for Agriculture will not issue any other bonds or contract any indebtedness in any manner sharing in the specific security provided for the bonds of this issue. The Reichsbank will act as supervisory trustee in Germany and will exercise general supervision over bonded agents appointed by it in conjunction with the German Govenimerit to examine and pass upon the mortgages securing the bonds and to have the custody of the deposited mortgage documents. The business operations and policies of the Central Bank for Agriculture are under the supervision of the German Government. The governing board includes eleven members appointed by the German Reichsrat and two appointed by the Government..,, The purpose "of this issue is to provide funds calculated to increase the productivity of German agriculture. This should exert a favorable influence on German national economy and on the potential balance of payments available to creditor nations/ ..;''.,.„ ; T ^ Application will be made to list these bonds on the New York Stock Exchange. We offer these bonds if, as and when issued and received by us, subject to the approval of; our counsel, Messrs. Shearman & Sterling, New York City, and Dr. Ernst Wolff, Berlin. Delivery in temporary form is expected on or about September 28, ,1925. i Price 93 and interest, yielding 7.63 per cent. T H E NATIONAL CITY CO., New York City. CENTRAL BANK FOR AGRICULTURE, GERMANY, Berlint Germany, September 12, 1925. THE NATIONAL CITY CO., [ National City Bank Building% New York, N. Y< GENTLEMEN: In connection with your purchase of $25,000,000, Deutsche Rentenbank-Kreditanstalt first lien 7 per cent gold farm loan sinking fund bonds we take.pleasure in giving you the following information: ORGANIZATION AND PURPOSE ' . 'The Deutsche Rentenbank-Kreditanstalt,which hereinafter, for the purpose bf brevity, is referred to as Central Bank for Agriculture, has an authorized capital and surplus of 500,000,000 reichsmarks ($119,047,619) and a paid-up capital of 170,000,000 reichsmarks ($40,476,190). It is situated in Berlin, having been organized under the auspices of the German Government in accordance with a law passed on July 18, 1925. This Central Bank for Agriculture is the central institution for German agricultural credit organizations. Its purpose is to use its own resources and the proceeds of loans obtained at home or abroad in granting through existing agricultural" credit organizations, some of which have been in existence for more than . 100 years, loans or credits for the promotion of agricultural production m all its branches. ' " , - . . The governing board is composed of 27 members, of whom 11 are appointed by the Gennan Reichsrat/2 by the German Government, and 11 by certain leading agricultural organizations specified in the charter law. These members, together with the president, who acts as chairman of the board, may elect, by a two-thirds majority, two additional members who must be .credit expert?. SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 175 GOVERNMENT SUPERVISION According toTthe provisions of its charter and by-laws, the Central Bank for Agriculture is under the supervision of the German Government and of the Reichsrat, the upper house of the German Parliament, the members of which represent the several German States. The Government must approve all changes in the by-laws, the disposition of assets in liquidation, and the distribution of profits, except when the latter are used to increase the paid-up capital and reserves to a total not exceeding the authorized amount of 500,000,000 reichsmarks (SI 19,047,019). The Government must furthermore approve all bond issues and through its commissioners supervise the conduct of the business of the Central Bank for Agriculture to assure that it is carried on in accordance with legal and other obligations. The Reichsrat must be kept informed of the operations and policies of the Central Bank for Agriculture. SECURtTT These bonds have the following security: (1) They are the direct credit obligations of the Central Bank for Agriculture, secured by its entire resources. Its paid-up capital amounting to $40,476,190 (which may be increased to a total authorized capital and surplus of $119,047,619) affords an equity of exceptional strength. (2) There will at all times be on deposit as security therefor mortgage documents evidencing mortgages of an unamortized principal equivalent in gold marks to the aggregate principal amount of the outstanding bonds or, in lieu of such mortgage documents, cash of an equivalent amount. r Except for any prior existing mortgages, for the immediate discharge of which appropriate provisions will be made in the trust indenture, these mortgages will constitute absolute first liens on the property covered subject only to the original Rentenbank landcharge annuity for a period in no case extending beyond October 11, 1934, amounting to 1*4 per cent per annum of the official land valuation, which annuity is pledged for the redemption of Rentenmark notes remaining outstanding, and to possible minor charges not of a capital nature for which due allowance will be made in advances made on such mortgages. These mortgages will not exceed 40 per cent of the official valuation of German agricultural, forestal, or horticultural lands, must fulfil the requirements of the German mortgage bank law of 1899, will mature not later than the maturity of the bonds and will bear interest at the rate of at least 7 per cent per annum. Payment on account of the principal thereof will be collectible by the trustees. The deposit of the mortgage documents under the trust indenture provides security equivalent to a pledge under German law. The remedies with respect thereto in case of default are, however, enforceable through an official receiver and not by the trustee directly. (3) Each of the agricultural credit organizations from which the deposited mortgage documents are acquired by the Central Bank for Agriculture will be individually respectively liable with respect to such mortgages to the fuii amount of the unamortized principal thereof. The Central Bank for Agriculture covenants and the German Government stipulates in its approval of this issue, given in conformity with the charter law, that the Central Bank for Agriculture will not issue any other bonds or contract any indebtedness in any manner sharing in the specific security provided for the bonds of this issue. The Central Bank for Agriculture under present restrictions may not issue bonds in an amount in excess of six times its capital, which limit may be increased to eight times its capital with the consent of the Reichsrat. The valuation of farm lands is officially determined in accordance with the revised " Wehrbeitrag" assessment, made in 1924, which is based on the average annual yield that may be produced under average farming conditions and is made exclusive of all improvements. The official valuation of all German agricultural, forestal, and horticultural lands subjected to the Rentenbank landcharge annuity is now placed at approximately $10,000,000,000, a conservative valuation, appreciably lower than pre-war valuations. The ratio of official valuation to actual value varies in the different states and provinces, but has always been kept at a conservative level substantially under the actual value. The German mortgage bank law of 1899, the basic law governing loans made by mortgage banks, allows secured loans to be made against first mortgages on a general basis of 60 per cent of the valuation of the property by such mortgage banks and bankers and provides that mortgage bonds issued by such banks must be covered by not less than an equal amount of first mortgages carryihg at least 176 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES the same rate of interest. Such mortgages must be officially registered in the public realty registers (Grundbucher). * , Loans granted from the proceeds of this issue may be made only against tust mortgages deposited under the trust indenture not-exceeding 40 per cent of the official valuation of the property a3 hereinbefore indicated. A special bond reserve will be established by the Central Bank for Agriculture and invested in liquid securities determined by the governing board upon recommendation of the managing directors, into which reserve will be paid one-third of all profits earned until this reserve is equal to 5 per cent of the value of all bonds issued and outstanding. The Reichsbank will act as supervisory trustee in Germany and will exercise general supervision over bonded agents appointed by it in conjunction with the German Government to examine and pass upon the mortgages securing the bonds and to have the custody of the deposited mortgage documents. PURPOSE OP ISSUE The purpose, of this issue is to provide funds for the making of farm loans calculated to increase the productivity of German agriculture. The consequent growth in agricultural production in Germany should tend to reduce the import of food stuffs, thereby exerting a favorable influence on German national economy and on the potential balance of payments available to creditor nations. The proceeds of this issue may also be used to retire existing liens on land which will be mortgaged to secure the bonds of this issue provided that not more than 20 per cent of the proceeds of this issue can be used to retire such existing liens. ' Inasmuch as these liens are in a majority of cases in favor of mortgage banks or other-mortgage credit institutions, such sums as may be repaid in order that the mortgages securing this issue may have a first lien, will in the main b® Teloaned for agricultural purposes. 'BUSINESS AND MANAGEMENT The Central Bank for Agriculture, in the execution of its rdle as a central agricultural credit institution, functioning under government supervision, grants interest bearing loans for agricultural purposes to the credit institutions designated in its charter and by-laws, to the States, and to organizations designated by the National or State Governments. These will be mainly long term firp mortgage loans as described above, made from the proceeds of bonds issued in its own name, such as the present issue. Under the charter law it may also make short term loans until December 31, 1930, from its own capital, primarily by rediscounting the agricultural paper of regional banks. The Central Bank for Agriculture may purchase and sell exchange as required in carrying out its business and may invest available cash in short term securities through the agency of the Reichsbank or other approved banking institutions. It may facilitate the repayment of outstanding agricultural loans which were made in Rentenmarks soon after the stabilization of German currency, thereby aiding in the abrogation of the land-charge annuity, amounting to 1J& percent per annum of the official land valuation imposed upon German, agricultural, forestal and horticultural lands to secure the Rentenmark currency, as previously described. This abrogation becomes effective on or before October 11, 1934. The conduct of business is in the hands of not less than two managing directors, elected by the governing board and responsible to the same. Although subject to Government supervision, the management of the Central Bank for Agriculture enjoys independent discretion in the conduct of the business of the institution. CAPITAL AND EARNINGS The paid-up capital of the Central Bank for Agriculture at present totals 170,000,000 reichsmarks ($40,476,190) and may be increased from time to time as indicated in the following paragraph to an authorized total of 500,000,000 reichsmarks ($119,047,619), including the surplus and all reserves except the special bond reserve. : ' Capital increases may be effected from time to time by the application of earnings and through payments to,the credit of the capital account of the Central of .liquidation and also from sums received in payment of the: larid-charge annuities to the extent that such proceeds are hot designated for the retirement of the rentenmark notes, in accordance with the provisions of the rentenmark liquids; SALE OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECURITIES 177 tion act of August 30, 1924. The present paid-up capital of 170,000,000 reichsmarks ($40,476,190) of the Central Bank for Agriculture represents the first of such payments. Moneys receivable from the annuities paid on the land charge are paid over in sums up to 25,000,000 reichsmarks ($5,952,381) annually and will cease when the land-charge annuity is abolished upon the final liquidation of the Rentenbank. This will probablv take place in six years, but in no case later than October 11, 1934. In addition to the above accretions to the capital, not less than 25 per cent of the net profits earned by the Central Bank for Agriculture must be paid into the legal reserve until the same is equal to not less than 10 per cent of the paid-up capital. A t least 33K per cent of such net profits must be paid into the special bond reserve until this reserve amounts to 5 per ccnt of the bonds of the Central Bank for Agriculture issued and outstanding. The profits remaining may by resolution passed at the general meeting be added to the capital, to the legal reserve, or to such other reserves as may subsequently be set up, or they may be applied to agricultural purposes with the approval of the German Government. Under certain conditions profits in exccss of those required to be devoted to statutory reserves may be used to expedite the redemption of rentenmark notes outstanding. GERMAN AGRICULTURAL CREDITS Agricultural credit institutions granting both long term mortgage loans and short term credits have long existed in Germany, many of them cooperative in character somewhat similar to mutual savings banks and other cooperative institutions in the United States. Prior to 1914, these organizations did a flourishing business granting agricultural credits totaling approximately $2,382,457,000 against which were issued bonds secured by farm mortgages to the extent of $1,357,100,000. These bonds were dealt in on the German stock exchanges, the majority carrying coupon rates of 3*4 per ccnt and 4 per cent. The organization committee appointed under the Dawes plan to recommend detailed provisions in regard to the new bank of issue suggested that an agricultural credit institution should be formed to which the Rentenbank should transfer its credit balances and which should supply agriculture with the credits urgently needed to replace deficiencies in working capital resulting from the inflation period. The Central Bank for Agriculture has been organized pursuant to this suggestion to act as the central bank for the existing organizations which have previously served German agricultural needs. The bonds of the Central Bank for Agriculture are not government obligations or government guaranteed obligations but they are the secured obligations of a credit institution operating under government charter and under government supervision on whose governing board there is governmental representation. Throughout this letter German currency has been converted into United States currency at the rate of 4.20 rcichsmarks to the dollar. Very truly yours, DEUTSCHE RENTENBANK-KREDITANSTALT, LANDWIRTSCHAFTLICHE ZENTRALBANK. KISSLER, Managing Director. LIPP, Managing Director. (The information contained in this circular has been obtained, partly by cable, from official statements and statistics and from other sources which we consider reliable. We do not guarantee, but believe it to be correct. Except as otherwise stated, all figures in this circular have been translated from German makrs into United States dollars at the parity of 4.2 marks to the dollar.) SAMPLE OFFERING LETTERS ORIGINAL TERMS LETTER SENT AFTER TELEPHONE OFFERING WHICH HAD BEEN VERBALLY ACCEPTED SEPTEMBER 1 4 , 1925. DEAR SIRS: W e have agreed to purchase subject to issue as planned at 88 er cent and accrued interest, $25,000,000 Deutsche Rentenbank-Kreditanstalt ondwirtschaftliche Zentralbank (Central Bank for Agriculture, Germany) first lien 7 per cent gold farm loan sinking fund bonds, due September 15, 1950. A distributing group is being formed to take over this purchase at 89 per cent and accrued interest, and It is expected that the bonds will be offered to the f 178 SALE ' OF 'FOREIGN = BONDS Ob SECURITIES public at 93 per cent and accrued interest through a sellingjgroup, members of which will receive a selling concession of 3 per cent on bonds confirmed to them. W e are pleased to confirm your participation of $7,500,000 on original terms in this purchase, subject to a management and origination fee of y$ per cent to ourselves. Kindly confirm your acceptance and oblige. Very truly yours, , Vice, President DEUTSCHE RENTENBANK-KREDITANSTALT LANDWIRTSCHAFTLICHE ZENTRALBANK CENTRAL BANK FOR AGRICULTURE, GERMANY—$25,000,000 FIRST LIEN 7 PER CENT GOLD FARM LOAN SINKING FUND BONDS, DUE SEPTEMBER 15, 1950 DISTRIBUTING GROUP Confidential: NEW YORK, September 15, 1925. DEAR SIRS: W e have agreed to purchase, subject to issue as planned, $25,000,000 Deutsche Rentenbank-Kreditanstalt Landwirtschaftliche Zentralbank (Central Bank for Agriculture, Germany) first lien 7 per ccnt gold farm loan sinking fund bonds due September 15, 1950. W e are forming a distributing group in which we shall participate and of which we shall be the managers, to take over this purchase at 89 per cent and accrued interest, which price allows us a profit. W e are pleased to confirm that we have offered you and you have accepted a participation in this group of $ which ^participation is for your own account and not to be re-offered, subdivided, or transferred. The gross profit to this group is 1 per cent. Expenses in connection with the purchase and sale of these bonds will be charged to this distributing group. W e reserve the right to trade in this issue and any profits or losses accruing through such trading will be credited to or charged against this distributing group. A selling group of which we shall be the managers and in which you will also be included will be given the privilege to offer these bonds to the public for subscription, subject to allotment, at 93 per cent and accrued interest and will receive a selling concession of 3 per cent on face value of bonds confirmed to them. The bonds are to be held together for sale under our management for a period of 60 days from date, with a privilege of extension, unless the account be sooner terminated by us. W e are to have full control of the account, with power to sell the bonds and to repurchase and resell them. W e are to make no charge for our services in managing the account, for, as stated above, a profit is included in the price at which the bonds are being sold to the distributing group; but, as members of such group, we shall be entitled to receive the same profit as is allowed to other members. We, reserve the right to - change the list price and concessions, and to close the account, at any time, without notice. Kindly confirm your acceptance to the National City Co. and oblige. Yours very truly, THE NATIONAL CITY Co., HARRIS, FORBES & Co., LEE, HIGGINSON & . C o . , By THE NATIONAL CITY CO., Vice President. CENTRAL BANK FOR AGRICULTURE, GERMANY—$25,000,000 DEUTSCHE RENTENBANK-KREDITANSTALT LANDWIRTSCHAFTLICHE ZENTRALBANK FIRST LIEN 7 PER CENT GOLD FARM LOAN SINKING FUND BONDS DUE SEPTEMBER, 15, 1950 SELLING GROUP NEW YORK, September 15> 1925. j DEAR SIRS: W e have' agreed to purchase, subject to issue as planned $25,000,000 Deutsche Rentenbank-Kreditanstalt Landwirtschaftliche ZentraibanK (Central Bank for .Agriculture, Germany) First Lien 7 per cent gold farm isinking fund bonds due September 15, 1950. . ' W e are inviting a selected list of dealers, including yourselves, t o participate, without commitment, in the distribution of these bonds, for delivery, when, as, SALK OF F011K1GX BONDS OH SECURITIES 179 and if issued to and received b y us and subject t o all nccessary approvals. The public offering price is t o be 93 j>er cent and accrued interest. Subscription b o o k s will be open a t the office of T h e National C i t y C o . , 55 Wall Street, New York C i t y , on Wednesday, September 10, 1925, and will be closed at our discretion. Y o u will be allowed a selling concession of 3 per cent o n bonds confirmed t o y o u , o u t of which n o t exceeding % per c e n t m a y b e rcallowed to dealers, banking institutions and insurance companies. N o other concessions are to be allowed b y y o u t o anyone. From the gross selling concession will be deducted such portion of the distributing expenses as we m a y in our discretion determine. Inasmuch as a substantial part of this issue has been taken b y European groups, your acceptance of the terms of this offering letter and subscription for bonds is with the agreement on y o u r part that offerings of these bonds b y y o u will be confined t o the United States and Canada. Payment for bonds confirmed is t o be made a t 92jJ per cent and accrued interest at the office of the treasurer of T h e National City Co., 50 Wall Street, New York City, on or a b o u t September 28, 1925, in N e w Y o r k City funds, at which time temporary bonds o r interim certificates will be delivered. We reserve the right t o retain the full selling concession on any bonds originally delivered to y o u (irrespective of the price a t which such delivery is made) which may be repurchased in the open market a t o r below the list price of 93 per cent and accrued interest, during the operation of the account, o r we may elect to require you to take u p such repurchased bonds a t repurchased cost t o us. T h e balance of the selling concession will be paid u p o n the termination of the account on or about N o v e m b e r 10, 1925, b u t we reserve the right a t our discretion to dissolve the group a t an earlier date and also t o extend it f o r any period or periods not exceeding 00 d a y s in t he aggregate. We will manage the a c c o u n t with full powers a n d reserve the right t o sell and repurchase and resell b o n d s in o u r uncontrolled discretion. U p o n written notice from us we may exclude f r o m all interests and profits f r o m this account anyone failing to observ e the terms hereof and hold him liable t o repay any concession which may have been allowed. W e shall make n o charge f o r our services in managing this account, as w e will be otherwise compensated, b u t as members of the group we shall be entitled t o receive the same concession as is allowed t o other members. Preliminary circular describing this issue is inclosed. Additional circulars our imprint or in blank will be supplied in reasonable quantity upon request. Please send your subscriptions o v e r public wires direct to T h e National City Co., 55 Wall Street*, N e w Y o r k City and confirm b y letter. Very truly yours, By T H E NATIONAL CITY CO. HARRIS, FORBES & C o . L E E , HIGGINSON & C o . T H E NATIONAL CITT CO., Vice President. $ 2 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 RHINE-WESTPHALIA ELECTRIC POWER CORPORATION (RHEINISCHWESTFALISCHES ELEKTRZZITATSWERK AKTIEN-GESELLSCHAFT)—CONSOLIDATED MORTGAGE GOLD BONDS, 6 PER CENT SERIES OF 1 9 2 8 (CARRYING CERTAIN STOCK-PURCHASE RIGHTS FOR "AMERICAN S H A R E S " ) . D U E AUGUST 1, 1 9 5 3 DISTRIBUTING GROUP NEW YORK, September 25, 1028. DEAR SIRS: W e have agreed t o purchase subject to issue as planned $20,000,000 Rhine-Westphalia Electric Power Corporation (Rheinisch-Westfalisches Elektrizit&tswerk Aktien-Gesellschaft) consolidated mortgage gold bonds, 6 p e r c e n t series of 1928 (carrying certain stock-purchase rights for " A m e r i c a n shares") due August 1,1953, a n d are forming a distributing g r o u p in which we shall participate ana of which we shall b e the managers t o take o v e r this purchase a t 91 % per cent and interest, which price allows us a profit. W e are pleased to confirm that we have offered y o u a n d y o u h a v e accepted a participation in this group of $ which participation is f o r y o u r o w n a c c o u n t and n o t t o b e re-offered, sub-divided f o r transferred. T h e gross profit t o the;distributing group is % per c e n t . 180 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, I t is planned that the distributing group will m a k e public offering Wednesday m o r n i n g , September 26, 1928, a t 94 per cent and interest, if, as, a n d when issued and received b y us and subject to approval of counsel, t h r o u g h a selling group of which w e shall also b e the managers and in which y o u will also b e included. The members of this selling group are to receive a selling c o m m i s s i o n of 2 per cent o n b o n d s confirmed to them. I t is understood t h a t y o u r participation in the distributing group carries with it 80 per cent thereof in firm b o n d s in the selling group. Expenses in connection with the purchase a n d sale of these b o n d s , in excess of those charged t o the selling group, and selling commissions will b e charged to this distributing group.' , . W e as managers m a y allot bonds of this issue in o u r uncontrolled discretion a n d m a y trade in these b o n d s and outstanding issues of the Rhine-Westphalia Electric Power Corporation f o r distributing group a c c o u n t a t such prices and i i such a m o u n t s as we m a y deem advisable. A n y profits or losses accruing through such trading will be credited to or charged against t h e distributing g r o u p . Members of the distributing group agree if called upon b y us t o take u p their share of b o n d s remaining in the distributing group a n d / o r t h e trading a c c o u n t a t the close o f this account. W e as managers m a y dispose of any unsold balance of b o n d s remaining in the distributing group or the trading account t o any g r o u p or g r o u p s and we may share in such purchase provided the sales price of such b o n d s shall not be less than the then net cost t o the distributing group. : . T h e duration of the distributing group will correspond with t h a t of the selling group b u t m a y b e extended at our discretion f o r a f u i t h e r p e r i o d n o t to exceed 30 days. W e are t o have full control of the a c c o u n t with p o w e r to,sell the bonds and to repurchase and resell in our discretion. W e are t o m a k e n o charge for our services in managing the account for, as stated a b o v e , a p r o f i t is included in the price at which the bonds are being sold t o t h e distributing g r o u p ; but, as members of such group w e shall b e entitled t o o u r p r o p o r t i o n a t e share of the profit in the, group. W e reserve .the right t o change t h e list p r i c e . a n d concessions and t o close the account at any time w i t h o u t noticer Nothing herein contained shall constitute t h e ; m e m b e r s of t h e g r o u p partners with the managers or with one another o r render ;the managers personally liable f o r any group obligation or for the obligation o f a n y m e m b e r . W e as managers shall have authority t o settle all matters connected w i t h t h e purchase of these bonds including the right, in our discretion, t o agree t o variations in the details set forth in the circular describing this issue, that, in o u r j u d g m e n t d o not. substantially change the security purchased; a n d w e reserve t o ourseives the right whether t o complete the purchase or not, even t h o u g h there m a y b e variations f r o m the statements contained in the circular. U p o n receipt of this letter please send at o n c e t o T h e N a t i o n a l City, Co., 55 Wall Street, N e w Y o r k City; the duplicate c o p y inclosed herewith duly signed. V e r y truly yours, T H E NATIONAL CITT CO., , Vice President THE NATIONAL CITY CO., New York, N. Y ' DEAR SIRS: W e accept the participation of $ b o n d s u n d e r the terms of Agreement a n d confirm purchase of 80 per c e n t thereof in firm b o n d s . Name.-__^. Address _ _ By.— TWENTY MILLION DOLLAR RHINE-WESTPHALIA ELECTRIC POWER CORPORATION (RHEINISCH-WBSTPALISCHES ELEKTRIZITATSWERK AKTIEN-GESELLSCHAFT)— CONSOLIDATED MORTGAGE GOLD B O N D S / 6 PER CENT SERIES OP 1 9 2 8 (CABBTING CERTAIN STOCK PURCHASE RIGHTS FOR "AMERICAN SHARES")* AUGUST 1, 1953 SELLING GROUP NEW YORK* September 25,1928, DEARSIRS: W e h a v e agreed t o purchase, s u b j e c t t o issue as p l a n n e d , $20,000,000 R h i n e - W e s t p h a l i a Electric P o w e r Corporation (Rheinisch-Westffilisches Elektrizitatswerk Aktien-Gesellschaft) consolidated mortg;age g o l d bonds, 6pe* 181 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, cent series of 1928 (carrying certain stock purchase rights for ** American shares") due August 1, 1953, and are inviting a selected list of dealers, including yourselves, to join a selling group, without commitment, except as provided below, to offer these b o n d s Wednesday morning, September 26, 1928, when, as and if issued to and received by us and subject to all necessary approvals at 94 per cent and interest. We as managers will endeavor to confirm orders as received but reserve the right to reject any or all orders in whole or in part and t o allot a smaller par amount than applied for. You will be allowed a selling concession of 2 per cent on the par amount confirmed to you, o u t of which not exceeding H per cent may be reallowed t o dealers, banking institutions and insurance companies. No other concessions arc t o be allowed t o anyone. From this gross selling c o n cession will be deducted such portion of the distributing expenses as we may determine. Your acceptance of the terms of this offering letter and subscription f o r bonds is with the agreement on your part that offering* of these bonds b y y o u will be confined t o the United States and Canada. Payment for bonds confirmed to y o u is to he made at 93% per cent and interest when called for on o r a b o u t October 17, 1928, at the office of the treasurer of The National Citv Co., 52 Wall Street, New Y o r k City, in N e w York City funds. This selling group will terminate on November 28, 1928, but we reserve the right in our discretion t o dissolve the group at an earlier date and also t o extend it for a period or periods not exceeding 60 days in the aggregate. T h e balance of the selling conccssion will be paid as soon after the termination of the selling group as the group accounts can be made up. With respect to any bonds originally delivered t o y o u (irrespective of the price at which such delivery is made) which m a y have been repurchased or contracted for by us at or below the list price during the operation of this account and which may be delivered t o us for a period of seven days after the termination of this account, it shall be optional with us (a) t o retain the full selling concession thereon, or (b) to require y o u to repurchase such bonds a t the repurchased cost to us. It is understood that bonds delivered t o y o u against such repurchases need not, in every instance, be identical with those originally delivered to y o u , or may not be delivered t o you until after the expiration of this account. W e will manage the account with full powers and w e reserve the right t o sell, repurchase and resell bonds in our uncontrolled discretion. Upon written notice we may exclude from all interest and profits in this account, and hold liable t o repay any conccssion which may have been allowed, anyone failing t o observe the terms hereof. W e shall make no charge for our services in managing this account, as we will be otherwise compensated, b u t as members of the group we shall be entitled to receive the same concession as is allowed to other members. As managers we shall n o t be liable with respect t o the validity or value of the security, or the representations contained in, or the form or validity of, any letters, circulars, agreements or other instruments executed b y the Rhine-Westphalia Electric Power Corporation, or b v others, nor f o r the delivery of the security, nor for the performance b y the Rhine-Westphalia Electric Power Corporation, or others, of any agreement on its or their part, nor in any w a y or for any matter connected herewith, except for lack of good faith in performing o r failing t o perform the undertakings expressly assumed b y us b y this agreement. We agree t o cause t o be filed with the department of State at Albany, New Y o r k , " a notice respecting these securities in the f o r m required b y the general business law of the State of New Y o r k . Preliminary circular describing this issue is enclosed. Additional circulars with our imprint or in blank will be supplied in reasonable quantity upon request. Please telegraph y o u r orders under above terms over public wires direct t o The National City Co., 55 Wall Street, N e w Y o r k City, and confirm b y letter. Very truly yours, T H E NATIONAL CITY ———, Co., Assistant Vice-President. 182 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, A E G $ 1 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 ALLGEMEINE ELEKTRICITXTS GESELLSCHAFT (GENERAL ELECTRIC C o . , .GERMANY) 20-YEAR 6 PER CENT GOLD SINKING-FUND DEBENTURES DUE I M A Y 1, 1 9 4 8 THE NATIONAL CITY . C o . , May 21, 1928. DISTRIBUTING GROUP DEAR SIRS: W e have, agreed t o purchase, s u b j e c t t o issue as planned, §10,000,000 Allgemeine Elektricitats Gesellschaft (General Electric Co., Germ a n y ) 20-year 6 per cent gold sinking-fund debentures d u e M a y 1, 1948. . W e are forming a distributing group in which w e shall p a r t i c i p a t e a n d of which we shall be the managers, to take over this purchase at 91% p e r c e n t and interest which price allows us a profit. W e are pleased t o c o n f i r m t h a t w e h a v e offered y o u and y o u have accepted a participation in this g r o u p of $ — which participation is for y o u r own account and n o t t o be reoffered, s u b d i v i d e d , or transferred. The-gross profit t o this group is 1 per cent. Expenses in connection with the purchase and sale of these b o n d s in excess of those charged t o the selling group and selling concessions will b e charged to this distributing group. W e reserve the right t o trade in this a n d outstanding issues of the General Electric C o . , Germany, and a n y profits o r losses a c c r u i n g through such trading will be credited t o or charged against this distributing group. Members o f the distributing group agree If called u p o n b y us t o t a k e u p their proportionate share of bonds remaining in the distributing g r o u p a n d / o r the trading account a t the close of this account. It is planned that the distributing group will m a k e p u b l i c offerings immediately a t 94% per cent and interest if, as, and when issued a n d r e c e i v e d b y us and subject t o the approval of counsel, through a selling g r o u p o f w h i c h w e shall also be the managers and in which y o u will also b e included. T h e m e m b e r s of this selling group are t o receive a concession of 1% per c e n t o n b o n d s c o n f i r m e d t o them. It is understood that your participation in the distributing g r o u p carries with it 80 per < cent thereof i n firm bonds in the selling g r o u p . The distributing group will terminate o n July 25, 1928, unless extended or sooner terminated b y us. W e are to have full c o n t r o l of t h e a c c o u n t , with power t o sell the bonds and t o repurchase and resell in o u r discretion. W e are to make no charge for our services in managing the a c c o u n t , f o r , as stated a b o v e , a profit is included in the price at which the b o n d s are being sold t o t h e distributing g r o u p ; but, as members of such group, we shall b e entitled t o o u r proportionate share of the profit in the group. W e reserve the right t o c h a n g e t h e list price and concession and to close the account at any time w i t h o u t n o t i c e . Nothing herein contained shall constitute the m e m b e r s of the g r o u p partners with the managers or with one another, o r render t h e m a n a g e r s personally liable f o r any group obligation o r f o r the obligation of a n y m e m b e r . T h e managers shall n o t be liable under any of the provisions hereof o r f o r a n y m a t t e r connected herewith> except f o r want of good faith; and n o obligation n o t e x p r e s s l y assumed b y them herein shall be applied herefrom; . U p o n receipt of this letter please send at o n c e t o t h e N a t i o n a l C i t y C o . , 55 Wall Street, N e w Y o r k City, y o u r formal a c c e p t a n c e of this p a r t i c i p a t i o n so that our records of this account m a y be complete. Y o u r s very truly, _ _ — , Vice President. AEG $ 1 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 ALLGEMEINE ELEKTRICITATS GESELLSCHAFT (GENERAL ELECTRIC CO., GERMANY) 20-YEAR 6 PER CENT GOLD S I N K I N G - F U N D DEBENTURES D U E M A Y . 1, 1948 N E W Y O R K , May 21, 1928. ^ I SELLING GROUP DEAR S I R S : ' W e h a v e - a g r e e d t o purchase, s u b j e c t t o issue a s planned» $10,000,000 Allgemeine Elektricitats Gesellschaft (General E l e c t r i c C o . , Germany; 20-year 6 p e r cent gold sinking-fund debentures d u e M a y 1, 1948. W e are inviting a selected list of dealers, including yourselves, t o j o i n a s e n m g r o u p , w i t h o u t c o m m i t m e n t , except as p r o v i d e d b e l o w , t o o f f e r these bonas T u e s d a y morning, M a y 22, 1928, when, a s a n d if issued t o a n d received by u S subject t o all necessary approvals at 94H per c e n t a n d interest. ,, ^ [We as managers will endeavor t o c o n f i r m orders a s r e c e i v e d b u t reserve tne r i g h t t o reject a n y or all orders in whole o r in p a r t a n d t o a l l o t a smaller P a r 183 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, a m o u n t than applied f o r . Y o u will b e allowed a selling concession of 1% per cent on the par a m o u n t confirmed t o y o u , o u t of which n o t exceeding J4 per c e n t m a y be rcallowed t o dealers, banking institutions, and insurance companies. N o other concessions are t o b e allowed t o a n y o n e . F r o m this gross selling con* cession will be d e d u c t e d such portion o f the distributing expenses a s w e m a y determine. Inasmuch Its a substantial p a r t of this issue has been taken b y European groups y o u r a c c e p t a n c e of the terms of this offering letter a n d subscription f o r onds is with the agreement o n y o u r p a r t t h a t offerings of these b o n d s b y y o u will be confined t o the United States a n d C a n a d a . P a y m e n t f o r b o n d s confirmed t o y o u is t o b e m a d e a t 94& per c e n t a n d interest when called for o n o r a b o u t June 12, 1928, a t t h e office of the treasurer of the National C i t y C o . , 52 Wall Street, N e w Y o r k C i t y , in N e w Y o r k C i t y funds. T e m p o r a r y b o n d s o r interim certificates, exchangeable f o r definitive bonds when prepared and rcceivcd will IKS delivered against p a y m e n t . This selling group will terminate o n J u l y 25, 1928, b u t w e reserve the right in o u r discretion t o dissolve the group a t an earlier d a t e and also t o extend it f o r a period o r periods not exceeding 00 d a y s in the aggregate. T h e remaining selling concession will b e paid as soon after the termination of the selling g r o u p as the g r o u p accounts c a n be m a d e up. With respect to a n y b o n d s originally delivered to y o u (irrespective o f the price a t which such delivery is made) whicli m a y have been repurchased o r contracted for b y us at or below the list price of.94H per cent plus interest during the o p e r a tion of this account, it shall be optional with us (a) to retain the full selling c o n cession thereon, o r (6) t o require y o u t o repurchase such bonds at the repurchased cost to us, even though such b o n d s m a y n o t have been delivered t o us until after t h e expiration of this account. I t is*understood that b o n d s delivered to y o u against such repurchases need not, in every instance, be identical with those originally delivered t o y o u , o r m a y not be delivered to y o u until after the expiration of this account. W e will manage the a c c o u n t with full powers and we reserve the right t o sell, repurchase and resell b o n d s in o u r uncontrolled discretion. U p o n written notice we may exclude f r o m all interest and profits in this account, and hold liable t o repay any concession which m a y have been allowed, a n y o n e failing t o observe the terms hereof. W e shall m a k e n o charge f o r our services in managing this account, as we will be otherwise compensated, b u t as members of the group we shall be entitled to receive the same concession as is allowed to other members. As managers we shall n o t be liable with respect t o the validity o r value of the security o r the representations contained in, o r the f o r m o r validity of, a n y letters, circulars, agreements o r other instruments executed b y Allgemeine Elektricitats Gescllschaft, or b y others, nor f o r the delivery of the security, nor f o r the p e r f o r m a n c e b y Allgemeine Elektricitats Gesellschaft, o r others, of a n y agreement on its o r their part, nor in a n y w a y o r f o r a n y matter connected herewith, except f o r lack of g o o d faith in p e r f o r m i n g o r failing t o p e r f o r m the undertakings expressly assumed b y us b y this agreement. Preliminary circular describing this issue is inclosed. W e are forwarding v o u under separate c o v e r a supply of circulars with o u r imprint. Additional circulars with our imprint o r in blank will b e supplied in reasonable q u a n t i t y u p o n request. Please telegraph y o u r orders under a b o v e terms o v e r public wires direct t o the National C i t y Co., 55 W a l l Street, N e w Y o r k C i t y , and confirm b y letter. Very truly yours, T H E NATIONAL CITT 1 Co., Assistant Vice President, KUIINT, LIOEB <fe C o . , New York, December 28, 19$ 1\ H o n . REED SMOOT. Chairman United States Senate Committee on Finance, Washington^ D. C. DEAR SIR: Referring t o our M r . O t t o H. K a h n ' s yesterday's letter t o y o u and t o his testimony before y o u r c o m m i t t e e when he appeared b e f o r e it o n D e c e m b e r 21 last, we beg "to hand y o u herewith the following, which, as y o u will n o t e f r o m the transcript of his testimony, he was requested t o file with y o u r c o m m i t t e e : , J. A m e m o r a n d u m of foreign loans offered b y us since the close of the World War, together with the requested d a t a regarding these loans. 184 SALE'••OF FOREIGN BONDS ?OR SECURITIES 2. A c o p y or p h o t o s t a t of our official circular describing each of t h e loans set forth in the a b o v e mentioned m e m o r a n d u m . A c o p y of the loan agreement covering t h e c i t y of Christiania (Norway)' municipal external loan of 1920 25-year 8 per cent sinking-fund g o l d b o n d s due October 1, 1945, and a c o p y each of our underwriting a n d selling g r o u p letters covering that issue of b o n d s . 4. A list of the partners constituting otir firm. 5. A list o f foreign b o n d s a t present in default here, which has been furnished t o us b y the Institute of International Finance of 90 T r i n i t y Place, this city. While w e believe that this list is accurate, w e w o u l d respectfully request that it be used without responsibility on our p a r t or on t h e p a r t of t h a t institute. 6. A m e m o r a n d u m setting forth matters w h i c h w e take into a c c o u n t in considering the flotation of a n y foreign loan. " \ W i t h regard t o the estimate which M r . K a h n stated t o y o u r c o m m i t t e e that he would endeavor t o h a v e m a d e showing t h e average size of retail sales of foreign securities/we beg t o say that, as M r . K a h n intimated, i n a s m u c h as w e are-pritmarily wholesalers and n o t retailers of securities, w e d o n o t h a v e at our disposal sufficient data* upon which w e feel w e could, with a n y degree of a c c u r a c y , base such an estimate, and regret, therefore, t h a t w e are unable t o furnish y o u with such data. W e are, dear sir, Very respectfully yours, KUHN, LOEB & C o . P . S . — T h e r e is also inclosed a c o p y of the official circular (designated inclosure. N o . 7) describing our offering of American shares f o r c o m m o n s t o c k of the North German Lloyd; which M r . K a h n was also requested t o file with y o u r committee. $ 2 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 SWEDISH GOVERNMENT 2 0 - Y E A R 6 PER CENT GOLD BONDS, DATED JUNE 15, 1 9 1 9 , D U E JUNE 15, 1 9 3 9 , INTEREST PAYABLE JUNE 15 AND DECEMBER 15. C o u p o n bonds in denomination of $ l , 0 0 0 , T e g i s t e r a b l e a s ' t o principal. Principal and interest p a y a b l e in United States g o l d coin of t h e present standard of weight and fineness a t t h e National C i t y Bank of N e w Y o r k . Principal and interest are e x e m p t froni all present or future Swedish G o v e r n m e n t , municipal; or other taxes or duties levied b y or within the K i n g d o m o f S w e d e n . Redeemable as a whole on June 1 5 , 1 9 2 9 , or a n y interest d a t e thereafter, a t 102 a n d accrued interest on 60 d a y s ' notice. v These 20-year 6 per cent gold b o n d s will b e t h e direct general c r e d i t obligations of t h e Swedish G o v e r n m e n t , whose faith a n d credit are p l e d g e d f o r the prompt p a y m e n t of principal and interest. T h e y will b e issued u n d e r a u t h o r i t y of the. Riksdag (National Legislature of Sweden) a n d of the Swedish national debt f' office., T h e wealth of Sweden, embracing b o t h p r i v a t e a n d p u b l i c p r o p e r t y , was officially estimated in 1917 a t approximately $4,690,000,000, based o n pre-war prices. Assets owned b y t h e State were valued a t $821,152,000 in 1918. 1 Total national debt, including b o t h f u n d e d arid u n f u n d e d , w a s $441,020,800, December 31, 1918. '' ' ' --.n Sweden has prospered financially, a n d c o m m e r c i a l l y during t h e w a r . Total resources of the private commercial banks increased 148 p e r c e n t f r o m March 31, 1913, t o M a r c h 31, 1919. Bank clearings in 1918 were five a n d three-tenths times those of 1914., T h e total foreign trade h a s increased f r o m $338,233,268 in 1910 t o $591,234,800 in 1918, o r 75 p e r c e n t . T h e t o t a l visible favorable t r a d e balance f r o m 1914 t o 1918, inclusive, w a s $462,301,778. T h e fiscal system of Sweden has been established a n d d e v e l o p e d o n a con^ servative basis. F u n d e d d e b t has been issued t o c o n s t r u c t n a t i o n a l enterprises w h i c h are revenue producing, and substantial a m o u n t s h a v e b e e n raised b y taxat i o n f o r t h e same purposes* Taxes during t h e w a r h a v e been increased t o meet extraordinary governmental expenditures f o r national defense. S h o r t - t i m e debts h a v e been incurred during the war t o purchase f o o d , f u e l , a n d r a w materials*; a n d i t is expected these d e b t s will b e largely liquidated f r o m t i m e t o time a j the supplies are sold. '* Foreign issues headed by Ruhn, Loeb & Co. since November 11, Amount Swedish Government 20-year 6 per cent gold bonds, due June 15, 1939 Swedish Government 30-year (external loan) 5% per cent gold bonds, due Nov. 1, 1954.. Total Swedish issues City of Christiania 25-year 8 per cent sinking fund gold bonds, due Oct. 1,1945 City of Christiania 30-year 6 per cent sinking fund gold bonds, due Sept. 1,1954.. City of Oslo 30-year 6 per ccnt sinking fund gold bonds, due May 1,1955 City of Oslo 20-year 5% per cent sinking fund gold bonds, due Feb. 1,194G Total Norwegian issues.. $25,000,000 30,000.000 Price paid Issue price Per cent 9m 90.62 Per cent 99K 99H Total ^.spread .. 3 0) None. Total Danish issues.. Kuhn, Loeb & Co.'s gross profit from originating Distriband underutors' • margin commis- writing and participasion tion, If any. in compensation of distributors' group OrigiUndernating writing group's _ - margin margin Per cent Per cent Percent 1 1H ZA 2H Vi 2 5,000,000 93 99 0) 6 2,000,000 8,000,000 4,000,000 94 97 94 98 99 K 97 $160,000 480,000 0 4 2H 3 94.29 92.077 97 H 94% None. None. 2.90 2.423 None. 4H m vNone. r •4H 5K $ 2K 35/\ 15,000,000 12,000,000 Purpose of issue $76,553 56,017 Purchase of commodities in United States. Capital expenditures for railways, posts, telegraphs, telephones, etc.; also agricultural aid. IH 87,240 2 1% i y. 22,855 33,092 40,400 Productive purposes (electric works, harbor and housing). Do. Do. Partly refunding and partly as above. 55,000,000 19,000,000 City of Copenhagen 25-year 5 per ccnt gold bonds, due Juno 1,1952 City of Copenhagen 25-year i}4 per cent gold bonds, due May 1, 1953,. | I 46 1.]173 1. iH VA 112,372 Refunding and public works and buildings. GG, 019 Refunding. in 191,805 M 195, 582 Betterment and extension of transport systems. 355,925 Refunding and other purposes. 308,873 188,656 Purchase of rolling stock, electrification, etc. Do. 27,000,000 Government of the Kingdom of the Netherlands 30-year 6 per ccnt external sinking fund gold bonds, due Apr. 1, 1954. 40,000,000 94 98^ Department of tho Seine 20-year 7 per cent external gold bonds, due Jan. 1,1942 Cities of Lyons, Marseilles, and Bordeaux 15-year 0 per cent gold bonds, due Nov. 1,1934... Paris-Lyons-M'editerranean R. R. Co. 6 per cent external sinking fund gold bonds, due Aug. 15, 1958 do 25,000,000 45, 000,000 85% 88 90^ 92^ 30,000,000 10,000,000 7&U 7m 83 [ 83M Total French issues.. (3) 1,610,000 J IH m Redemption of floating debt. iH i VA 2 IH % ik' 21M 78,109 Additions and improvements to properties. 2 76,944 Partly refunding of notes, partly construction, improvements, harbor, bridges, etc. Construction and repayment of indebtedness incurred thorefor. 110,000,000 •Arbed" Societe Anonyme des Acieries Reunies de Burbach-Eich-Dudelange 25-year sinking fund 7 per cent gold bonds, due Apr. 1,1951 (Luxembourg) --Stale of Hamburg 20-year 0 per ccnt gold bonds, due Oct. 1, 1946 North Gorman Lloyd 20-year 6 per cent sinking fund gold bonds, duo Nov. 1, 1947.. Total German issues.. 10,000,000 10,000,000 20,000,000 78C>M 88 90 92H 957,000 OH 2% 91H None. 3H 3H 1,600,000 4 m 1, C75,800 6H 2 &H 1 m 3 80,688 5 6 1 2H i 3 2 121,538 158,483 Funding of short term indebtedness. Construction of electric power station, gas plants, waterworks, tramways, etc. H 103, G98 Refunding. H 113,179 Do. 37,002 Do. 94 30,000,000 Czechoslovak Republics per cent secured external sinking fund gold loan of 1922, due Apr. Czechoslovak Republic 8 per cent secured external sinking fund gold loan of 1922, series B, due Oct. 1,1952 Czechoslovak Republic secured external sinking fund gold loan of 1925, series A, 20-year 7yA per ccnt bonds, due Oct. 1, 19-45 City of Greater Prague 7}£ per ccnt mortgage loan bonds of 1922, due May 1, 1952,. Total Czechoslovakiau issues Government of the Argentine Nation external sinking fund G per cent gold bonds of 1923, series A, due September 9,1957„ „ Government of tho Argentine Nation 6-month 5}g per cent treasury gold notes, dated February 25,1924 (placed with banks only) Total Argentine issues.. 14,000,000 90 90K 9,250,000 91 96H 25,000,000 91 90 7,500,000 8G>£ 92H 9&X 99M 84G, 600 0) 992,000 74,711 N 2 w 139,305 55,750,000 55,000,000 40,000,000 20,000,000 92 m 96H 100 0) 4,240,500 0) m H "A-'tt 'M-'m l 4^ X H iff 2H 15 2K 1 4 2 2 Public reconstruction, development of railways, canals, etc., and repayment of advances in connection therewith. Do. 115,000,000 Mortgage Bank of Chile guaranteed 5-year 6 per cent agricultural gold notes of 1926, due Dec. 31,1931. Mortgage Bank of Chile guaranteed sinking fund 6 per cent gold bonds of 1928, due Apr. 30, 1961. Mortgage Bank of Chile guaranteed sinking fund 6 per cent gold gonds of 1928, due May 1, 1962. Total Chilean issues.., 93 97% 99H 98H 1,388,000 4,092,000 None. 20,000,000 20,000,000 10,000,000 HH 20,000,000 91H 95H 647,000 20,000,000 sm 92 418,000 97.67 QOij( SB None. None. VA M IH 120,915 113,839 71,724 59,868 2H " 21,700 U 3,175 36,854 Mortgage loans. Do. Loans secured by agricultural products. Mortgage loans. Do. 90,000,000 Province of Ontario 20-year 5 per cent gold bonds, due Oct. 1,1942. Province of Alberta 30-year 4>£ per cent gold debentures, due Oct. 1, 1956. Total Canadian issues. 20,000,000 6,000,000 1.58 m .83 .75 1 Refunding. 26,000,000 Total bonds retired Total European issues Total Canadian issues.Total South American issues. 346,750,000 26,000,000 205,000,000 Grand total 577if 7luu, v i fiflfl u( uw Amount of loan retired by sinking fund, as of Jan. 1,1932, or as of the nearest date available 1918 * Entire issue repaid. * Entire issue called for Feb. 1,1932. * Entire issue called for Jan. 1,1932. i Issuing group* ' Syndicate. • For expenses, H per cent Less H per centforexpenses. T 178,112,900 • • Purchase group. • Selling group. » Loss. 92928—31. (Face p. 184.) No. 1 Foreign issues in which Kuhn, Loeb & Co. participated since November 11, Name of issue Amount Austrian Government guaranteed loan 7 per cent sinking fund gold bonds 1923-1943. Austrian Government international loant 1930, sinking fund 7 per cent gold bonds due Aug. 1, 1957. $25,000,000 Total Austrian Government issues 25,000,000 Syndicate headed by— Price Issue price Amount of loan Origiretired by sinking fund as of Total nating Jan. 1, 1932, or margin group's margin as of the nearest date available Per centPer cent 90 J. P. Morgan & Co— S5X 95 91 do $6,488,900 Per cent Per cent 4X 1918 Distributors' commission Underwriting margin Per cent 1 Per cent 511,900 Kuhn, Loeb & Co.'s gross profit from originating and underwriting margin and participation, if any, in compensation of distributors' group Purpose of issue $7,429 League of Nations plan of rehabilitation. 26,900 Expenditures for railways, postal and telegraph, etc. 50,000,000 Ottering Distributing group syndicate German external loan, 1924, 7 per cent gold bonds, due Oct. 15,1949. German Government international h% per cent loan, 1930, 35-year gold bonds, due Juno 1, 1965. Total German Government issuesImperial Japanese Government external loan of 1924, 30-year sinking fund GX per cent gold bonds, due Feb. 1, 1954. Imperial Japanese Government external loan of 1930, 35-year sinking fund 5H per cent gold bonds, due May 1,1965. City of Tokio external loan of 1927 sinking fund 5}4 per ccnt gold bonds, due Oct. 1,1961. City of Yokohama external loan of 1926, sinking fund 6 per cent gold bonds due Dec. 1,1961. Taiwan Electric Power Co. (Ltd.), 40-year sinking fund 5X per cent gold bonds due July 1,1971. Total Japanese financing.. Republic of Cuba serial 5% per cent gold bonds due 1928-1937.. Republic of Cuba external loan 30-year sinking fund 5X per cent gold bonds due Jan. 15, 1953. Total. 110,000,000 98,250,000 do. do- 92 31,623,100 86 90 1,982.000 S7H 92Jfi Per cent Per cent IX m X \x IH 109,506 M 101,645 To ensure currency stabilization and financing deliveries in kind. Two-thirds for capitalization of a portion of unconditional annuities of Young plan, one-third for railway, post, etc. m 445,456 Reconstruction and refunding. m 230,947 Refunding. i i i 59,382 208,250,000 150,000,000 50,000,000 20,640,000 19,740,000 22,800,000 _.do_ -do..do, -do... -do... 90. 86 89 90 263,180,000 9,000,000 50, COO, 000 -do.. 100 96.77 89JS a Average. 16,976,700 5 None. 4 1,167,000 907,000 None. 93 .93H IX m 1 1 4 m i m 57,230 Reconstruction and refunding. Do. 71,311 Development and expansion. * 101.122 3,600,000 23,289,500 WX i 580,430,000 i To J. P. Morgan, X per cent. 87 1.122 2L4S 0.48 0.372 IX 2,940 4,838 Funding of internalfloatingdebt. 86,546,100 i Total bonds retired. 92928—31. (Face p. 184) No. 2 185 SALE OF F O R E I G N ; B O N D S OR S E C U R I T I E S , S w e d e n e n j o y s v e r y l u g h c r e d i t . I n n o r m a l t i m e s , its external l o a n s b o r e a rate of interest f r o m 3 t o p e r c e n t , a n d sold o n t h e L o n d o n a n d Paris S t o c k Ex* changes a t a v e r a g e p r i c e s t o y i e l d f r o m 3 . 2 3 t o 4 . 2 8 p e r c e n t . T h e a v e r a g e yield of f o u r r e p r e s e n t a t i v e S w e d i s h G o v e r n m e n t b o n d s q u o t e d o n t h e L o n d o n S t o c k E x c h a n g e M a y 19, 1919, w a s 5.31 p e r c e n t . T h e p r o c e e d s of t h i s l o a n a r e t o b e used f o r t h e p u r c h a s e of c o m m o d i t i e s in t h e U n i t e d States. W e o f f e r these b o n d s if, as a n d w h e n issued a n d r e c e i v e d b y us, s u b j e c t t o prior sale a n d c h a n g e in p r i c e a t 99}$ a n d a c c r u e d interest. Pending the preparation of definitive bonds, interim receipts exchangeable for definitive b o n d s will b e issued a g a i n s t c o n f i r m e d sales. All legal m a t t e r s p e r t a i n i n g t o this issue will b e p a s s e d u p o n b y Messrs. Shearm a n a n d Sterling, N e w Y o r k C i t v . K u h n , L o e b & C o . ; T h e N a t i o n a l C i t v C o . ; First N a t i o n a l B a n k , N e w Y o r k ; Guaranty T r u s t C o . of N e w Y o r k ; Brown Bros. & C o . ; Kidder, P e a b o d y & C o . ; Lee, Higginson & C o . ; Continental & Commercial Trust & Savings Bank, Chicago.; Union Trust Co, P i t t s b u r g h ; M e l l o n N a t i o n a l B a n k , P i t t s b u r g h ; First N a t i o n a l B a n k , S t . P a u l ; A n g l o & L o n d o n Paris N a t i o n a l B a n k , San Francisco. T h e a b o v e s t a t e m e n t s a n d statistics a r e d e r i v e d f r o m official sources o r t h o s e which w e regard a s reliable. W e d o n o t g u a r a n t e e , b u t b e l i e v e t h e m t o b e correct. SWEDEN* NATIONAL DEBT T h e per c a p i t a d e b t of S w e d e n , b o t h f u n d e d a n d u n f u n d e d , as of D e c e m b e r 31. 1918, w a s $70.59, c o m p a r e d w i t h S210 f o r t h e U n i t e d States. E v e n w i t h t h e increased financial r e q u i r e m e n t s o f t h e S w e d i s h G o v e r n m e n t o c c a s i o n e d b y t h e W o r l d W a r , t h e f u n d e d d e b t h a s increased o n l y 7 5 p e r c e n t since 1913^ T h i s increase is m o d e r a t e c o m p a r e d w i t h t h o s e o f o t h e r n a t i o n s . All t h e f u n d e d d e b t has b e e n issued f o r c a p i t a l e x p e n d i t u r e s w h i c h are r e v e n u e p r o d u c i n g , such as S t a t e - o w n e d railroads, telegraphs, t e l e p h o n e s , h y d r o e l e c t r i c plants, canals, loans t o aid a g r i c u l t u r e a n d l o a n s t o p r i v a t e o w n e d railroads. I n a d d i t i o n t o the a m o u n t raised b y l o a n s f o r i n v e s t m e n t i n S t a t e properties, substantial s u m s h a v e b e e n so i n v e s t e d f r o m o r d i n a r y r e v e n u e s a n d f r o m t a x a t i o n . T h e u n f u n d e d d e b t representing t o a l a r g e e x t e n t b a n k i n g c r e d i t s h a s b e e n created t o finance g o v e r n m e n t c o m m i s s i o n s c o n t r o l l i n g f o o d , f u e l , a n d r a w materials. T h e s e c o m missions a r e a l r e a d y l i q u i d a t i n g their affairs a n d t h e c r e d i t s will b e l a r g e l y p a i d o u t of t h e p r o c e e d s . T h e following statement furnished b y the national d e b t office shows the national d e b t of S w e d e n o n D e c e m b e r 3 1 o f e a c h o f t h e last s i x y e a r s : Funded 1913 1914... ioia.. 1917..... 1918 $1(5* $46,m 1MJ, 483,681 217,779.122 249,298,105 270,412,000 291,101,000 Unfunded $5,3150,000 11,524,000 9,916,000 15,544,000 37,520,000 149,919,200 Total $172,208,233 007,061 227,6&\122 264,542,105 307,932,000 441,020,800 T h e $249,298,105 f u n d e d d e b t o u t s t a n d i n g D e c e m b e r 31, 1916, r e p r e s e n t e d original issues o f $ 2 9 3 , 2 4 1 , 6 1 3 , t h e b a l a n c e $ 4 3 , 9 4 3 , 5 0 8 h a v i n g b e e n retired t h r o u g h amortization. Of the f u n d e d d e b t of $291,101,600 outstanding D e c e m b e r 31, 1918. $ 1 5 0 , 4 2 8 , 4 0 0 h a d b e e n p l a c e d in f o r e i g n c o u n t r i e s a n d $ 1 4 0 , 6 7 3 , 2 0 0 in Sweden. T h e f a v o r a b l e e x c h a n g e s i t u a t i o n resulting f r o m large e x c e s s of e x p o r t s over imports during the war has stimulated t h e repurchase b y Swedish institutions a n d i n v e s t o r s o f a c o n s i d e r a b l e a m o u n t o f S w e d i s h l o a n s p l a c e d a b r o a d . Thirteen l o a n s issued u n d e r n o r m a l financial c o n d i t i o n s , u p t o a n d i n c l u d i n g t h e year 1913, b o r e l o w rates o f interest r a n g i n g f r o m 3 p e r c e n t t o 4 % p e r c e n t , w i t h an average o f 3}£ p e r c e n t . F o u r r e p r e s e n t a t i v e b o n d issues o f S w e d e n listed o n the L o n d o n S t o c k E x c h a n g e s o l d a t a v e r a g e p r i c e s t o y i e l d a b o u t 3 . 7 8 p e r c e n t 186 SALE'••OF FOREIGN BONDS ?OR SECURITIES during the 10-year period f r o m 1904 t o 1913. F o r t h e same period three representative issues sold on the Paris Bourse at average prices t o yield a b o u t 3.67 per cent. " T h e national B u d g e t f o r the fiscal year ending D e c e m b e r 31, 1919, provides $18,481,823 f o r service of the national debt, of which $16,997,587 is required for interest and $1,484,236 f o r amortization. T h e total d e b t service will require o n l y 11.1 per c e n t of the total revenues, of which 10.2 per c e n t will b e required for interest and 0.89 per cent f o r amortization. BEVENUES AND EXPENDITURES T h e receipts a n d expenditures of the G o v e r n m e n t h a v e been officially reported as follows: Receipts f 913 :1 1914„i.„.:.i 1915 1916 Expenditures $81,983,880 $69,973,996 80,394, 90S 72,755,032 111,315,944 110,687,484 140,976,844 116,411,160 Surplus $12,009,884 7,639,876 628,460 24,565*684 Actual expenditures f o r 1917 and 1918 are n o t available, b u t a c t u a l receipts exceeded budget estimates b y $70,039,120 in 1917 a n d b y $20,257,271 in 1918. T h e budget estimates f o r 1917, 1918, a n d 1919 were $185,454,686, $180,900,616 and 166,673,940, respectively. T h e revenues of Sweden are derived f r o m two sources, taxation and state properties. T h e largest present source of taxation is the i n c o m e and property tax, which has exceeded c u s t o m s duties during the I n 1918 the revenues f r o m i n c o m e a n d p r o p e r t y t a x amounted : past f e w years. t o $69,476,327, compared with $11,115,885 in 1913, while c u s t o m s duties amounted t o $9,907,239 in 1918, compared with $18,465,921 in 1913. R e c e i p t s f r o m the excess profits tax h a v e been v e r y satisfactory, amounting in 1918 t o $81,489,812, which was a b o u t five times the estimated amount. Excise taxes are levied on sugar, t o b a c c o , and alcoholic beverages, amounting in 1918 t o $14,368,741. Other important sources of revenue are s t a m p and inheritance taxes. State properties contributed an average surplus of b e t w e e n $15,000,000 and $20,000,000 annually up t o 1918, b u t showed a deficit of $1,570,054 in 1918 on a c c o u n t of increased operating costs of the State railroads. MONETARY SYSTEM AND BANKING T h e Swedish monetary unit is the 10-kronor gold c o i n containing 4.032258 ' grams of fine gold. T h e reckoning unit is o n e krona ( c r o w n ) with a gold value of $0,268 in United. States m o n e y (the rate used in c o n v e r t i n g k r o n o r t o dollars in this circular). Notes of the Riksbank a n d gold coins are legal tender througho u t the country. T h e banking system comprises the R i k s b a n k which is o w n e d a n d controlled b y t h e State a n d is the only bank of issue; ordinary j o i n t s t o c k c o m m e r c i a l banks with limited liability; unlimited liability (enskilda) c o m m e r c i a l b a n k s ; the General M o r t g a g e Bank of Sweden and m o r t g a g e societies: P r i v a t e savings banks and the post office savings bank. M o s t of the j o i n t - s t o c k a n d unlimitealiability banks, also maintain savings departments a n d carry large savings accounts. N o t e s of the Riksbank in circulation M a y 3, 1919, a m o u n t e d t o $196,000,000 against w h i c h was a domestic gold reserve of $77,600,000, or 39.6 per cent. F r o m M a y 2, 1914, t o M a y 3; 1919, the domestic g o l d reserve increased from $28,150,000 to, $77,600,000, or 176 per centA remarkable development has taken place in Swedish b a n k i n g in t h e last five years.. Paid-in capital and surplus of t h e j o i n t - s t o c k a n d unlimited-liability b a n k s h a v e increased f r o m $174,700,000 on D e c e m b e r 31, 1913, t o $250,500,000 o n D e c e m b e r 31, 1917, an increase of 43.4 p e r cent. D e p o s i t s increased from $453,200,000 t o $862,500,000, or 90.3 per c e n t , a n d cash 116 per c e n t . T h e surplus of foreign assets held b v the R i k s b a n k a n d t h e p r i v a t e b a n k s o v e r their foreign liabilities was $33,500,000 on D e c e m b e r 31, 1913, a n d on M a r c h 31, 1919/ h a d increased b y $158,500,000 t o $192,000,000, an increase of 4 7 3 p e r cent. . , Savings b a n k deposits h a v e also shown unusual g r o w t h . D e p o s i t s in private savings banks, t h e P o s t Office Savings B a n k , a n d savings d e p a r t m e n t s Of the 187 SALE OF FOREIGN; B O N D S OR S E C U R I T I E S , c o m m e r c i a l b a n k s increased f r o m $ 3 0 2 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 o n D e c e m b e r 31, 1913, t o $475,000,000 o n D e c e m b e r 31, 1910, a p e r c a p i t a increase f r o m $04.40 t o $84.50. T h e p er c a p i t a s a v i n g s a c c o u n t s of t h e p e o p l e o f S w e d e n rank high w h e n c o m pared with t h o s e of o t h e r countries. AREA, POPULATION, AND GOVERNMENT Sweden, with an area of 173,035 s q u a r e miles, is o n e of t h e largest countries of E u r o p e . T h e area is a b o u t 83 p e r cent of t h a t o f F r a n c e o r G e r m a n y in 1913, 142 per c e n t of G r e a t Britain a n d Ireland, a n d is a p p r o x i m a t e l y e q u a l t o the c o m b i n e d areas of all t h e N e w E n g l a n d States, N e w Y o r k , P e n n s y l v a n i a , N e w Jersey, D e l a w a r e , a n d M a r y l a n d . T h e p o p u l a t i o n , as e s t i m a t e d b v t h e G o v ernment in 1910, w a s 5,757,500. T h e p o p u l a t i o n d e n s i t y is 3 3 persons per square mile, c o m p a r e d with 119 f o r all E u r o p e a n d 170 f o r W e s t e r n E u r o p e . Since 1860 the p o p u l a t i o n has increased 4 9 p e r c e n t . Iliiteracv is practically u n k n o w n in Sweden. T h e t h r i f t y a n d industrious c h a r a c t e r of t h e p e o p l e insures a c o n tinuance o f t h e s t e a d y national p r o g r e s s s h o w n in t h e p a s t . T h e G o v e r n m e n t of S w e d e n is a c o n s t i t u t i o n a l m o n a r c h y . T h e Riksdag (national legislature) c o n s i s t s o f t w o c h a m b e r s w h i c h h a v e e q u a l a u t h o r i t y in all questions. T h e c a b i n e t ministers are responsible t o t h e R i k s d a g . WEALTH AND INDUSTRIES T h e wealth of S w e d e n e m b r a c i n g b o t h p r i v a t e a n d p u b l i c p r o p e r t y w a s officially e s t i m a t e d at approximate!}* $4,090,000,000 in 1917, based o n p r e - w a r telephones, rices. T h e assets o w n e d b y the S t a t e , s u c h a s railroads, telegraplis, ydro-electric plants, c a n a l s a n d forests, w e r e v a l u e d a t $ 8 2 1 , 1 5 2 , 0 0 0 in 1918. T h e principal industries are m i n i n g , agriculture, m a n u f a c t u r i n g , l u m b e r i n g , fisheries a n d shipping. I m m e n s e iron o r e fields exist in central a n d n o r t h e r n Sweden, c o n t a i n i n g d e p o s i t s generally r e c o g n i z e d a s of the v e r y h i g h e s t g r a d e . In 1910, 0,874,018 t o n s of iron o r e a n d 7 2 0 . 7 5 8 t o n s of p i g iron were p r o d u c e d . Other minerals p r o d u c e d a r c c o p p c r , nickel, m a n g a n e s e , z i n c , g o l d , a n d silver. I n 1910, 4 8 , 1 0 0 e m p l o y e e s were e n g a g e d in t h e m i n i n g industries. T h e v a l u e of the 1918 harvest of agricultural p r o d u c t s w a s e s t i m a t e d b y t h e C e n t r a l Statistical Bureau a t a b o u t $ 0 3 2 , 5 9 5 , 0 0 0 . T h e chief m a n u f a c t u r e s in the o r d e r o f their i m p o r t a n c e a r e : F o o d p r o d u c t s , metals, w o o d , p u l p , p a p e r , textiles, leather, and chemicals. I n 1915, 9,828 f a c t o r i e s were in o]>eration e m p l o y i n g 404,074 work p e o p l e . T h e v a l u e of t h e p r o d u c t i o n f r o m these factories w a s $727,087,000. T h e m e r c h a n t m a r i n e of S w e d e n , J a n u a r y 1, 1919, consisted of 1,209 s t e a m vessels of 847,054 gross t o n n a g e 3 9 0 m o t o r vessels o f 77,430 t o n s a n d 1,079 sailing vessels of 124,372 tons, a t o t a l o f 2,084 vessels o f 1,049,450 t o n s . Sweden has v e r y e x t e n s i v e w a t e r - p o w e r potentialities. T h i s p o w e r is being rapidly d e v e l o p e d a n d utilized f o r t h e f u r t h e r d e v e l o p m e n t of t h e natural resources of the c o u n t r y . T h e t o t a l a v a i l a b l e s u p p l y has b e e n estimated a t a m i n i m u m o f 0,750,000 h o r s e p o w e r . F r a n c e is e s t i m a t e d t o possess 5 , 9 0 0 , 0 0 0 : I t a l y , 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 ; Switzerland, 1,500,000 a n d G r e a t Britain 1,000,000. T h e total developed power in Sweden w a s 1,105,090 h o r s e p o w e r in 1910. T h e railway mileage o f S w e d e n a t t h e e n d o f 1910 was 9,304 miles o f w h i c h 3,078 miles were s t a t e o w n e d a n d 0 , 2 2 0 miles p r i v a t e o w n e d . The state-owned system c o m p r i s e s the m a i n t r u n k lines. T h e total railway mileage has increased 80.7 per c e n t since 1890. T h e d e n s i t v of r a i l w a y mileage p e r 1,000 i n h a b i t a n t s is t h e lareest of the E u r o p e a n c o u n t r i e s . I t is m o r e t h a n t w i c e t h a t of G r e a t Britain, F r a n c e , o r G e r m a n y * E FOREIGN TRADE T h e f o l l o w i n g table s h o w s t h e f o r e i g n t r a d e o f S w e d e n , e x c l u d i n g g o l d a n d silver, since 1 9 1 0 : Imports 1810..*™ 1911.. 191 2 1913 1914...... 1915. 1916 191 7 1918...... : ...... : t Partially estimated. «... $179,348,639 185,040,267 209,815,578 226,872,068 194.811,310 306,191,331 305,144,800 203,304,800 1229,032, &00 Exports $158,884,629 177,827,641 203,805,800 219,049,007 206,991,160 352,785,659 417,115,200 361,692,800 1362,202,000 Total $338,233,268 362,867,908 413,621,378 445,921,075 401.802,470 658,976,990 722,26a 000 564,997,600 1391,234,800 Balance —$20,464,010 -7,212,626 -6,009,778 —7,823,061 +12,179,850 +46,594,328 +111,97^4(X) +158,388,000 + M33,169,2C0 188 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, T h e increase in t o t a l trade f r o m 1910 t o 1918 was 75 p e r c e n t . T h e average annual surplus o f exports o v e r imports f r o m 1914 t o 1918, inclusive, was $92,460,300. This figure d o e s n o t include the invisible exports such as freights earned b y the merchant marine. T h e gross earnings of t h e m e r c h a n t marine in 1915 were $75,720,337. T r a d e between Sweden a n d t h e U n i t e d States reached its high level in 1915 when the total was $87,442,067. O w i n g t o lack of shipping facilities, trade between the t w o countries declined t o $21,609,598 in 1918, but has shown a pronounced increase in 1919. F o r the f o u r m o n t h s ended April ' 3 0 , 1919, exports f r o m the United States t o Sweden were $38,149,326. SWEDISH GOVERNMENT BONDS N e w issue $30,000,000 Swedish Government 30-year (external loan) 5}4 per cent gold bonds, dated N o v e m b e r 1, 1924, D u e N o v e m b e r 1, 1954. Interest payable M a y 1 and N o v e m b e r 1. C o u p o n b o n d s in denominations o f $1,000 and $500, registerable as t o principal only. Principal a n d interest p a y a b l e in N e w Y o r k C i t y in United States g o l d coin of t h e p r e s e n t standard of weight and fineness. T h e National C i t y Bank of N e w Y o r k , fiscal agent of t h e l o a n . N o t redeemable f o r 10 years. Redeemable, as a whole but n o t in part, at the o p t i o n of t h e G o v e r n m e n t on N o v e m b e r 1, 1934, or any interest date thereafter, a t 100 per c e n t . T h e credit of Sweden ranks high in the financial m a r k e t s of t h e w o r l d . Recent quotations indicate a 5 per cent average yield basis f o r nine representative loans listed o n the Stockholm Stock Exchange. T h e Swedish G o v e r n m e n t 6 per cent dollar loan due 1939 n o w outstanding in the N e w Y o r k m a r k e t is quoted to yield 5.40 per cent t o maturity, and less than 5 p e r c e n t assuming redemption in 1929, the earliest callable date. For the fiscal year ended June 30, 1924, ordinary r e v e n u e s amounted to $177,882,835 and ordinary expenditures $166,124,126, leaving a surplus for the year of $11,758,709. T h e service of t h e d e b t f o r t h e s a m e p e r i o d , including interest and amortization, totaled $23,849,759, or 13.4 per cent of o r d i n a r y revenues. W e are officially informed that the proceeds of this l o a n will b e used t o meet, in part, recent capital expenditures b y the Swedish G o v e r n m e n t , including posts, telegraphs and telephones, state railroads, hydroelectric d e v e l o p m e n t s , loans in aid of agriculture, loans t o privately owned railroads, a n d miscellaneous state enterprises. Application will b e m a d e t o list these b o n d s on the N e w Y o r k S t o c k Exchange. W e offer these b o n d s if, as, a n d when issued a n d r e c e i v e d b y us, subject to approval of counsel. Delivery in temporary f o r m is e x p e c t e d o n or about N o v e m b e r 11, 1924. Price 99J4 and interest, yielding over 5.50 p e r cent. . K u h n , L o e b & C o . ; First National B a n k , N e w Y o r k - T h e N a t i o n s City C o . ; Guaranty C o . of N e w Y o r k ; B r o w n Brothers & Co.; Kidder, P e a b o d y & C o . ; Lee, Higginson & C o . ; Continental and Commercial T r u s t & Savings B a n k , C h i c a g o ; The Union Trust C o . of Pittsburgh; Mellon N a t i o n a l B a n k , Pittsburgh; First National: Bank, St. P a u l ; A n g l o & L o n d o n Paris National B a n k , San Francisco. ( T h e a b o v e information has been obtained, partly b y c a b l e , f r o m official statem e n t s and statistics. While w e d o n o t guarantee w e believe i t t o be correct. All statistics relating t o foreign m o n e y are expressed in t e r m s of t h e U n i t e d States g o l d dollar at par of exchange.) $ 3 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 SWEDISH GOVERNMENT 3 0 - Y E A R (EXTERNAL LOAN) 5 % PER CENT GOLD BONDS, DATED DECEMBER 1, 1 9 2 4 , D U E DECEMBER 1, 1 9 5 4 N o t redeemable f o r ;10 years. Interest p a y a b l e M a y 1 a n d November 1C o u p o n b o n d s in denominations of $1,000 a n d $500, registerable as t o principal o n l y . Principal a n d interest p a y a b l e i n N e w Y o r k C i t y in U n i t e d States goW coin o f the present standard o f w e i g h t a n d fineness a t t h e N a t i o n a l C i t y ban* of N e w Y o r k , the fiscal agent o f the l o a n , w i t h o u t d e d u c t i o n f o r a n y present or f u t u r e Swedish taxes, in t i m e of w a r as well as in t i m e o f p e a c e , irrespective oi t h e nationality of t h e holder. SALE OP FOREIGN* BONDS 'Oil'SECURITIES 189 Redeemable, as a whole b u t n o t in p a r t , at the o p t i o n of the G o v e r n m e n t , o n November 1, 1934, o r o n any interest date thereafter," a t 100 per cent. Credit.—Of the 12 external loans of the Swedish G o v e r n m e n t a t present outstanding, 11 were issued prior t o 1914 a n d bear c o u p o n rates ranging f r o m 3 to per cent. T h e Swedish G o v e r n m e n t 6 per c e n t dollar loan, d u e 1939, which was offered in 1919 at 99K and which is the o n l y Swedish G o v e r n m e n t issue n o w outstanding in the N e w Y o r k market, is q u o t e d a t 106 ( O c t o b e r 24, 1924). At this price these bonds yield a b o u t 5.40 per c e n t t o final maturity, and, assuming redemption at 102 on June 15, 1929, the earliest callable date, less thau 5 per cent. The 3)4 per cent loan of 190S a n d the l \ i per c e n t loan of 1913 are quoted o n L o n don and Paris markets, respectively, a t prices yielding a b o u t 5 per cent. Nine representative government issues listed on the S t o c k h o l m S t o c k Exchange arc quoted at prices giving an average yield o f 5.001 |>cr cent. Debt and resources.—The total national d e b t as of Septeinl>er 3 0 , 1 9 2 4 , a m o u n t e d to $135,760,544, of which $160,323,750, o r a b o u t 38 per cent, was external. On the basis of the present population of 0,005,759, these a m o u n t s represent a total per capita debt of $72.50 and a per c a p i t a external d e b t o f $27.70. T h i s d e b t has been incurred, principally, f o r capital exj>enditurcs t especially the development of means of communication, agriculture, a n d hydroelectric power. I n addition,} substantial amounts f r o m currcnt revenues have f r o m time to. time been invested in such undertakings. The proceeds of this loan will b e used f o r meeting, in part, recent capital expenditures of the Swedish G o v e r n m e n t f o r posts, telegraphs, and telephones, state railroads, hydroelectric d e v e l o p m e n t s , loans in aid of agriculture, loans t o privately owned railroads, and f o r miscellaneous state enterprises. As an offset, the G o v e r n m e n t o w u s properties carried o n its b o o k s as of Sep* tember 30, 1924, at $753,805,834, and additional properties, n o t carried o n the books, valued in 1918 a t $147,400,000, making total asset* of $901,205,834, most: of which are revenue producing. Since Anril 1, 1924, the National Bank of Sweden has been redeeming its notes in gold, and as of September 27, 1924, the ratio of gold to notes in circulation w a s 42.8 per cent, as c o m p a r e d with a ratio of 45.5 per cent as of July 31, 1914. Institutions and investors in Sweden have taken advantage of the relatively f a v o r a b l e position of Swedish exchange during recent years to repurchase substantial a m o u n t s of G o v e r n m e n t loans originallyplaced abroad. Revenues and expenditures.—For the fiscal y e a r ending June 30, 1924, ordinary revenues amounted t o $177,882,835, a n d ordinary expenditures $100,124,120,, leaving a surplus of $11,758,709. T h e service of the d e b t for the same period, including interest and amortisation, totaled $23,849,759, o r 13.4 per cent of ordinary revenues. F o r the period January 1, 1913, t o June 30, 1923, ordinary revenues exceeded ordinary cxj>cnditurcs b v $86,767,079. A substantial portion o f the G o v e r n m e n t ' s revenues are derived f r o m direct taxation, and during the fiscal year ending D e c e m b e r 31, 1922, more than 28 per cent of ordinary revenues were derived f r o m property and i n c o m e taxes. Other principal sources of revenue are customs, excise duties, s t a m p taxes, and profits from State-owned enterprises. Wealth and industries.—The value of real estate alone, as estimated f o r tax purposes in 1923, totaled $4,040,239,987, o r m o r e than ten times the total national d e b t Of the a b o v e valuation, $421,053,016, belonging t o the G o v e r n m e n t a n d municipalities, was tax-exempt. The iron deposits of Sweden rank a m o n g the m o s t i m p o r t a n t of E u r o p e b o t h in extent and in richness of orc T while Swedish steel has f o r m a n y years e n j o y e d an international reputation because of its superior quality. C o a l , c o p p e r , sulphur, nickel, manganese, « i n c , g o l d , and silver are also produced. A b o u t 58 per cent of the land area consists o f tracts of valuable timber which furnish an abundance of material f o r the m a n u f a c t u r e of w o o d - p u l p and paper. Exports of paper, wood-pulp, and t i m b e r f o r the five v c a r s 1919-1923 averaged $209,009,426. T h e principal industries are agriculture, mining, lumbering, fishing, shipping, and manufacturing, ©specially of steel, w o o d - p u l p , and paper. Total production of industry f o r 1922 a m o u n t e d t o $995,745,039. Application will b e m a d e t o l i s t the*o b o n d s oti the N e w Y o r k S t o c k E x c h a n g e . We offer these b o n d s if, aft, and w h e n issued a n d received b y us, s u b j e c t t o a p p r o v a l of counsel. Price on application* 92928—-31—it 1 13 190 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, T h e information contained herein has been obtained f partly b y cable, from official statements and statistics. While, w e d o n o t guarantee, w e believe it to b e correct. All statistics relating to. foreign money jure expressed in terms of the United States gold dollar a t par of exchange. THE NATIONAL CITY CO., National City Bank Building, New York. $5,000,000 CITY * OF CHRISTIANIA (NORWAY) 2 5 YEAR 8 PER CENT SINKING FUND GOLD, BONDS, DUE OCTOBER 1, 1 9 4 5 Interest payable April 1 and October 1. Coupon bonds in denominations of $1J000 and $500 each. Principal, premium and interest to be payable in N e w Y o r k C i t y in United States gold coin of, or equal to, the present standard of weight and fineness, a t the office of Kuhn, L o e b & Co. without deduction f o r any Norwegian G o v e r n m e n t o r other Norwegian taxes, present or future. . The city of Christiania is to p a y t o Kuhn, L o e b & Co., as a sinking fund, in quarterly instalments, the sum of* $220,000 per annum c o m m e n c i n g January 1, 1921, and up to and including October 1,1930, and the sum of $215,000 per annum commencing January 1, 1931, and until the maturity of the bonds. Prior to: August 1, 1925, the sinking f u n d is t o be applied towards the purchase of bonds in the open market, if obtainable, at not more than 110 per cent a n d interest; any balance remaining unapplied on August 1, 1925, is t o b e applied t o the re^ demption of bonds by lot on October 1, 1925, at 110 per cent. Commencing April 1, 1926, and semiannually thereafter, Sinking F u n d p a y m e n t s are to be applied to redeem bonds b y lot at 110 per cent till October 1, 1930, and at 107)4 per cent thereafter. The entire issue of bonds outstanding is t o be redeemable, as a whole, on any interest date f r o m October 1,1925, t o O c t o b e r 1 , 1 9 3 0 inclusive, at 110 per cent, and f r o m April 1, 1931 t o maturity at 107}£ per cent, a n d interest, on six months* previous notice b y advertisement. The following information has been received f r o m M r . J- H o e , First Mayor of the City of Christiania. As it has been received b y cable, it is subject to correction: " Christiania, which is the capital and the principal p o r t of the K i n g d o m of N o r w a y , has a population of a b o u t 260,000. Its financial standing has always ranked very high. Previous t o the war it borrowed abroad a t the rate of 4 to 4}4 per cent. There has never been any default on a l o a n of the city. " T h e City's total debt, inclusive of the. present issue, is K r . 174,100,000 ( K r . 1 = $ 0 , 2 6 8 at gold parity), of which K r . 131,000,000.is f u n d e d debt. Cityowned properties o n June 30, 1919, were valued at Kr. 216,000,000; and, based on present values, are estimated at a considerably higher figure. City-owned assets are, therefore, in excess of the total debt, including the present loan. The proceeds of the present loan will be used f o r productive purposes, such as electric works, housing facilities and harbor improvements^ \ " T h e estimated income of the population of Christiania is K r . 933,000,000 and its taxable income K r . 756,000,000. " T h e budget for the fiscal year t o end June 30, 1921 a m o u n t s t o about Kr. 131,000,000 and provides for, K r . 6,000,000 t o be applied towards redemption of the unprovided balance of the t w o previous budgets. During and since the world war, Christiania had t o make considerable expenditures; f o r relief a n d other purposes connected with the world crisis a n d it affords p r o o f of the conservative management of the City's finances that during these six years its income from revenue fully covered the expenditures, b u t f o r the. relatively small aggregate sum of K r . 9,900,000." T h e undersigned will receive subscriptions f o r the a b o v e bonds, subject to. allotment, at 99 per cent and accrued interest, payable in N e w Y o r k against delivery of temporary receipts, deliverable if, when and as issued. J T h e temporary receipts will b e exchangeable f o r the definitive, bonds as when received b y us. . . T h e right is reserved t o close the subscription at a n y t i m e w i t h o u t notice, to r e j e c t a n y application, t o a w a r d a smaller: a m o u n t than applied f o r a n d t o allotments in o u r uncontrolled discretion. N E W YORK, October 15, 1920. ^ U H N , LOEB & CO. SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 191 $2,000,000 CITT OP CHRISTIANIA ( N O R W A Y ) 3 0 - y e a r 6 PER CENT SINKING FUND GOLD BONDS, D U E SEPTEMBER 1, 1 9 5 4 Interest payable March 1 and September 1. Coupon bonds in denominations of $1,000 and $500 each. Principal and interest to be payable in New York City in United States gold coin, of or equal to the present standard of weight and fineness, a t the office of Kuhn, Loeb & C o . without deduction for any Norwegian Government or other Norwegian taxes, present or future. Beginning September 1, 1929, the city of Christiania is to pay to Kuhn, Loeb & Co., in semiannual installments, the sum of $80,000 per annum, as a sinking fund, to be applied toward the purchase of bonds in the open market, if obtainable, at or below par and interest, or, if bonds are not so obtainable, toward the redemption of bonds by drawings a t par. The entire issue outstanding is to be redeemable, as a whole, at par, at the option of the city, on any interest date o n o r after September 1, 1934, on six months' previous notice by advertisement. The following information has been received f r o m J. Hoe, first mayor of the city of Chnstiania. As it has been received b y cable, it is subject to correction: " Christiania, which is the capital and the principal f>ort of the K i n g d o m of Norway, has a population of a l ^ u t 260,000. Its financial standing has always ranked very high. Previous to the war it borrowed abroad at the rate of 4 per cent to 4)4 per cent. There has never been a n y default on a loan of the city. " T h e city's total debt, exclusive of the present issue, is Kr. 226,698,000 (Kr. 1«= $0,268 at gold parity), of which Kr. 144,223.000 is funded debt. Cityowned properties on June 3 0 , 1 9 2 3 , were valued a t a b o u t Kr. 416,000,000. C i t y owned assets are, therefore, largely in excess of the total debt, including the present loan. The proceeds of the present loan will be used for productive purposes, such as housing facilities and harbor improvements. u The budget for the fiscal year to end June 30, 1925, which amounts t o a b o u t Kr. 100,800,000, b a l a n c e s / ' The undersigned offer the a b o v e b o n d s subject to prior sale at 98 per cent and accrued interest, yielding a b o u t 6.15 per cent to maturity. ( T h e above bonds arc offered if, when, and as issued and received b y the undersigned and subject to the completion of their purchase and approval of counsel. Interim receipts, exchangeable for definitive bonds, when prepared, m a y be delivered against payment in N e w York funds. Application will be made in due course to list these bonds o n the N e w York Stock Exchange. K u u x , LOEB & C o . NEW YORK, October l$U> $8,000,000 CITY OP OSLO (CAPITAL OP NORWAY), FORMERLY CITY OF CHRISTIANIA 30-YEAR 6 PER CENT SINKING-FUND GOLD BONDS, D U E M A Y 1, 1 9 5 5 Coupon bonds in denominations of $1,000 and $500 each. Principal a n d interest to be payable in New York City in United States gold coin of or equal to the present standard of weight and fineness, a t the office of Kuhn, L o e b & C o . without deduction for a n y Norwegian Government or other Norwegian taxes, present or future. Interest payable M a v 1 and N o v e m b e r 1. Beginning Mav 1, 1930, the city of Oslo is t o pay t o Kuhn, L o e b & Co., in semiannual installments, a sum sufficient t o retire $320,000 of bonds per annum, as a sinking fund, to be applied toward the purchase of bonds in the open market, if obtainable, at or beiow par a n d interest, or, if bonds arc n o t so obtainable, toward the redemption of tonds by drawings at par. The entire issue outstanding is t o be redeemable as a whole at par, at the option of the city, on any interest date on o r after M a y 1, 1035, on six months' previous notice by advertisement. The following information has been received f r o m M r . J. H o e , first m a y o r of the city of Oslo: . "Oslo, which is the capital and the principal port of the K i n g d o m of N o r w a y , has a population of about 260,000. Its financial standing has always ranked very high. Before the war it borrowed abroad at rates of 4 t o 4^4 per cent. There has never been any default on a loan of the city. . " T h e city's total debt, including the present issue, is about Kr. 290,000,000 (Kr. 1 « $0,268 at gold parity), of which about K r . 207,000,000 is funded d e b t . 192 SALE'••OF FOREIGN BONDS ?OR SECURITIES C i t y - o w n e d properties pn June 30, t 1923, were f valued a t a b o u t K r . 416,000,000. C i t y - o w n e d assets are, therefore, largely in excess of t h e t o t a l d e b t , including the present loan. T h e proceeds of- the present loan will b e 7 used f o r ^productive purposes, s u c h as .the c i t y - o w n e d gas.and electric works, h a r b o r improvements, and housing facilities. .. " ' T h e b u d g e t f o r t h e fiscalriyear,to end June 30, 1925, w h i c h . a m o u n t s t o K r . 100,800,000, balances;" T h e undersigned offer the a b o v e bonds, subject t o prior sale, a t 9 9 % p e r cent an4 a c c r u e d . interest. :i?Thei a b o v e b o n d s are offered'if, when, and as issued a n d r e c e i v e d b y the under-:, s i g n e d ' a n d subject t o ,the: completion ,of their purchase a n d a p p r o v a l of counsel: I n t e r i m .receipts, exchangeable f o r definitive b o n d s when prepared, may be; delivered against p a y m e n t in N e w Y o r k funds. Application will b e m a d e ; i n due course *to ; list, these bonds o n the N e w Y o r k S t o c k E x c h a n g e . NEW Yokk, April 8, J925. KUHN, LOEB & Co'. $ 4 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 CITY OF OSLO (CAPITAL OF NORWAY), FORMERLY CITY OF CHSISTIANIA 2 0 - Y E A R 5 % PER CENT SINKING-FUND GOLD BONDS, D U E FEBRUARY •1, 1946 Coupon b o n d s in denominations of $1,000 and $500 each. P r i n c i p a l . and interest t o b e p a y a b l e in N e w Y o r k City in United States gold coin o f - o r equal t o the present- standard of weight-and fineness, a t the office o f Kuhiv, Loeb &f C o . without deduction f o r any Norwegian G o v e r n m e n t o r o t h e r N o r w e g i a n taxes; p r e s e n t or future. Interest p a y a b l e February 1 and A u g u s t 1. Beginning February 1, 1927, the city of Oslo is t o p a y "to K u h n , L o e b & Co.'rin* quarterly installments, a sum sufficient t o retire $210,000 of bonds p e r annum, as a sinking fund, t o b e applied 4 toward the purchase of b o n d s j n t h e opeii mark e t , if obtainable, at or,below p a r and interest, or, if b o n d s are not : so obtainable, t o w a r d the redemption of b d n d s ' b y drawings at par. T h e entire issue outstanding is t o be redeemable as a w h o l e a t ' p a r , a t the optiph of t h e city / o n a n y interest d a t e o n o r after F e b r u a r y 1, 1931, o n six months' previous notice? by* advertisement;' T h e following information has been received f r o m H o n ! J a k o b Hoe* first mayor o f the city of Oslo. : A s it lias been received b y cable, it is s u b j e c t t o correction. " O s l o , which is the capital and the principal p o r t of t h e K i n g d o m o f Norway, has a population of a b o u t 260,000. I t s financial standing has a l w a y s ranked v e r y high. B e f o r e the war it borrowed a b r o a d a t rates of 4 t o 4 } i per'cent. T h e r e has never been any default on-a loan-of the c i t y . " T h e city's t o t a l d e b t , including the present issue, b u t d e d u c t i n g therefrom t h e $3,473,000 25-year 8 p e r cent s i n k i n g ' f u n d ' g o l d b o n d s called for redemption o n A p r i l T , 1926, is a b o u t K r . 271,000,000 ( K r . 1 = $ 0 , 2 6 8 a t gold p a r i t y ) ; of which •about K r . 216,000,000 is f u n d e d d e b t . C i t y - o w n e d properties o n J u n e 30, 1924, y e r e valued a t a b o u t K r . 434,000,000. C i t y - o w n e d assets are, therefore, largely i n .excess of the t o t a l debt, including t h e : p r e s e n t l o a n . Of t h e p r o c e e d s of the p r e s e n t loan, K r . 11,500,000 will be applied t o w a r d - t h e r e d e m p t i o n , referred to a b o v e , of the 8 per cent b o n d s n o w outstanding a n d the b a l a n c e of about Kr. 8,200,000 will be used for p r o d u c t i v e purposes, such as t h e city o w n e d gas and electric works, h a r b o r i m p r o v e m e n t s a n d housing facilities. " T h e c i t y ' s b u d g e t f o r the fiscal y e a r t o e n d J u n e 30, 1926, w h i c h amounts to K r . 107,000,000, balances:" T h e undersigned offer thef a b o v e b o n d s , s u b j e c t t o p r i o r sale, a t 97 per cent a n d accrued interest,,to yield o v e r 5.75 p e r c e n t t o m a t u r i t y . T h e a b o v e b o n d s are offered if, w h e n , a n d as issued aiid received b y the undersigned and s u b j e c t t o the completion of their purchase a n d a p p r o v a l of counsel I n t e r i m receipts, exchangeable f o r definitive b o n d s w h e n p r e p a r e d , will d e l i v e r e d a g a i n s t ' p a y m e n t in N e w Y o r k f u n d s . A p p l i c a t i o n will b e made in d u e course t o list these b o n d s o n the N e w Y o r k S t o c k E x c h a n g e : NEW YORK, 'JANUARY £7,1926. KUHN) LOEB & CO. SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES $15,000,000 CITY OF COPENHAGEN (DENMARK) BONDS, D U E JUNE 1, 1 9 5 2 25-YEAR 5 193 PER C E N T . GOLD Principal a n d interest p a y a b l e in N e w Y o r k C i t y in United States gold c o i n o f or ecjiul t o the standard o f w e i g h t a n d fineness existing J u n e 1, 1927, w i t h o u t deduction f o r a n y D a n i s h G o v e r n m e n t o r m u n i c i p a l o r other Danish taxes, imposts, levies, o f duties, p r e s e n t o r f u t u r e . C o u p o n b o n d s in d e n o m i n a t i o n s o f $1,000 and $500. Interest p a y a b l e J u n e 1 a n d D e c e m b e r 1. NOT REDEEMABLE FOR 10 YEARS The bonds arc redeemable, at the o p t i o n o f t h e c i t y , in whole, o r in p a r t b y lot, on June 1, 1937, or o n a n y interest d a t e t h e r e a f t e r , ' a t 100 per c e n t a n d a c c r u e d interest, on 00 d a y s ' publinhcd notice. International A c c e p t a n c e Securities & Trust C o , fiscal agents. The following i n f o r m a t i o n has l>eej» received f r o m H o n . J . S c h a a r u p ; d i r e c t o r general of accounts a n d audita of the c i t y o f C o p e n h a g e n ; h i v i n g been t r a n s mitted b y cable, it is s u b j e c t t o correction": " The city.—Copenhagen is the capital o f D e n m a r k a n d o n e o f t h e leading commercial centers of S c a n d i n a v i a . T h e p o p u l a t i o n o f t h e c i t y increased f r o m 506,390 in 1916 t o 5S7,000 fn 1920. Situated a t t h e entrance t o the B a l t i c Sea on one of the largest harbors in E u r o p e , its i m p o r t a n c e t o shipping has g r o w n steadily, and during 1926 i n c o m i n g ships totalled 4,984,000 n e t registered tons. " T h e credit of the c i t y o f C o p e n h a g e n has a l w a y s ranked high, and p r i o r t o t h e war it borrowed m o n e y ' a t c o u p o n rates f r o m 3 t o 4 p e r c e n t . " F i n a n c e s . — F o r t h e fisral y e a r 1 9 2 6 - 2 7 , o r d i n a r y b u d g e t receipts of t h e c i t y are estimated a t $29,319,000* a n d e x p e n d i t u r e s a t ' $ 2 8 , 6 7 6 , 0 0 0 . F o r the p a s t three years, ordinary r e c e i p t s h a v e e x c e e d e d expenditures a n d d u r i n g this p e r i o d the city has m a d e capital e x p e n d i t u r e s totaling S28,106,000, w h i c h w e r e p r o v i d e d for out of cash balances in the treasury, p r o c e e d s o f loans, a n d sales of municipal property. " A s of March 3 1 , 1 9 2 7 , the total f u n d e d d e b t of the c i t y a m o u n t e d t o $107,280,000 and there was n o floating d e b t . T h e assessed valuation o f real estate in t h e city is approximately $804,000,000 a n d o n M a r c h 31, 1926, the v a l u e of c i t y owned property was e s t i m a t e d a t SI 41,450,000, o f w h i c h p r o d u c t i v e p r o p e r t y (tramways, water, gas a n d electric works, markets, e t c . ) t o the estimated v a l u e of $101,840,000 yielded a net i n c o m e o f $ 6 , 7 0 0 , 0 0 0 f o r t h e fiscal y e a r 1 9 2 5 - 2 6 . " P u r p o s e — T h e p r o c e e d s of this issue will b e used in p a r t t o p a y t h e internal 5 per cent loan maturing in 1928, a m o u n t i n g t o $6,700,000, a n d the b a l a n c e will be used f o r additions a n d b e t t e r m e n t s t o p u b l i c w o r k s a n d buildings. " Security.The b o n d s will b e t h e direct o b l i g a t i o n o f the c i t y o f C o p e n h a g e n and will contain a c o v e n a n t t h a t if, while a n y of t h e b o n d s are outstanding, it shall create or issue o r guarantee a n y loan o r b o n d s secured b y Hen on any o f its r e v e nues or assets o r assign a n y o f its r e v e n u e s o r assets as security f o r a n y g u a r a n t y of any obligation, the present issue o f b o n d s will b e secured equally a n d r a t a b l y with such other loan o r b o n d s o r such g u a r a n t y . N o l o a n of t h e c i t y is specifically secured and the citv has n e v e r d e f a u l t e d o n a n y of its d e b t . "Application will b e m a d e in d u e c o u r s e t o list these b o n d s on t h e N e w Y o r k Stock E x c h a n g e . " Conversions of Danish k r o n e r i n t o U n i t e d States c u r r e n c y h a v e b e e n m a d e a t gold parity of $0,268 per kroner. The undersigned will r e c e i v e - s u b s c r i p t i o n s f o r the a b o v e b o n d s , s u b j e c t t o allotment, a t 9 7 ^ per c e n t a n d a c c r u e d interest t o d a t e of d e l i v e r y , t o yield a b o u t 5.20 per cent t o m a t u r i t y . The undersigned reserve t h e r i g h t t o c l o s e t h e subscription a t a n y t i m e w i t h o u t notice, t o reject a n y a p p l i c a t i o n , t o allot a smaller a m o u n t than applied f o r , a n d to make allotments in their u n c o n t r o l l e d discretion. The a b o v e b o n d s are offered if, w h e n and as issued and received b y t h e u n d e r signed and s u b j e c t t o thex&pproval o f c o u n s e l . I n t h e first instance i n t e r i m certificates, exchangeable f o r d e f i n i t i v e b o n d s w h e n p r e p a r e d , will b e d e l i v e r e d against p a y m e n t in N e w Y o r k f u n d s . NEW YORK, June 8, 1927. KutiN, LOEB k Co. INTERNATIONAL ACCEPTANCE BANK (INC.). 194 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, $ 1 2 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 CITY OF COPENHAGEN (DENMARK) 2 5 - Y E A R 4 % PER CENT GOLD BONDS, D U E M A Y 1, 1 9 5 3 Principal and interest payable in New Y o r k City in 'United States gold coin of or equal to the standard o f weight and fineness existing M a y 1, 1928, without deduction for any Danish Government or municipal or other Danish taxes, imposts, levies or duties, present or future. Coupon bonds in denominations of $1,000 and $5,000. Interest payable M a y 1 and November 1. NOT REDEEMABLE FOR 10 YEARS The bonds are redeemable, at the option of the city, in whole or in part by lot, on M a y 1,1938, or on any interest date thereafter, at 100 per cent and accrued interest, on 60 days' published notice. International Acceptance Trust Co. fiscal agents. The following information has been received f r o m H o n . J. Schaarup, director general of accounts and audits of the city of Copenhagen; having been transmitted b y cable, it is subject t o correction: "The Copenhagen is the capital of Denmark and one of the leading commercial centers of Scandinavia. The population of the city increased from 506,390 in 1916 t o 598,400 in 1927. Situated at the entrance t o the Baltic Sea o n one of the largest harbors in Europe, its importance t o shipping has grown steadily, and during 1927 incoming ships totaled 5,279,000 net registered tons. " T h e credit of the city of Copenhagen has always ranked high and prior to the war it borrowed money at coupon rates f r o m 3 t o 4 per cent. "Finances.—For the fiscal year 1927-28 ordinary budget receipts of the city are estimated at $27,122,000 and expenditures at $27,845,000. For the past four years ordinary receipts have exceeded expenditures and during this period the city has made capital expenditures totaling $29,158,000, which were provided f o r out of cash balances in the Treasury, proceeds of loans and sales of municipal property. " A s of March 31,. 1928, the total funded debt of the city amounted to $120,332,000 and there was no floating debt. The assessed valuation of real estate in the city is approximately $843,396,000 and on March 31, 1927, the. value of city-owned property was estimated at $139,414,000, of which productive property (tramways, water, gas, and electric works, markets, etc.) t o the estimated value of $101,840,000 yielded a net income of $6,700,000 f o r the fiscal year 1926-27. "Purpose—The proceeds of this issue will be applied t o the redemption of the city's municipal external loan of 1919 25-year 5/2 per cent redeemable sinkingfund gold bonds, due July 1, 1944, which are to be called for redemption on July 1, 1928. " Semrity,—The bonds will be the direct obligations of the city of Copenhagep and will contain a covenant that if, while any of the bonds are outstanding, it shall create or issue or guarantee any loan or bonds secured b y lien on any of its revenues or assets or assign any of its revenues or assets as security for any guaranty of any obligation, the present issue of bonds will t e secured equally and ratably with such other loan or bonds or such guaranty. N o loan of the city is specifically secured, and the city has never defaulted on any of its debt. "Application will be made in due course t o list these bonds on the New York Stock Exchange." Conversions of Danish kroner into United States currency have been made at gold parity of $0,268 per krone. a The undersigned will receive subscriptions f o r the a b o v e bonds, subject to allotment, at 9 4 ^ per cent and accrued interest t o date of delivery, t o yield 4.88 per cent t o maturity. T h e undersigned reserve the right t o close the spbscription at a n y time witho u t notice, t o reject any application, t o allot a smaller a m o u n t than applied for, a n d t o make allotments in their uncontrolled discretion. The a b o v e bonds are offered if, when, and as issued and received b y the undersigned and subject t o the approval of counsel. In the first instance interim certificates, exchangeable for definitive bonds when prepared, will b e delivered against p a y m e n t in N e w York funds. NEW YORK, April 24, 1928. K U H N , LOEB & C o . INTERNATIONAL ACCEPTANCE BANK (INC.)* SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 195 $ 4 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS (HOLLAND) 3 0 - Y E A R 6 PER C E N T EXTERNAL SINKING FUND GOLD BONDS OF 1 0 2 4 , D U E APRIL 1, 1 9 5 4 Interest payable April 1 and O c t o b e r 1. C o u p o n bearer b o n d s in denominations of $1,000 and $500. Principal and interest p a y a b l e a t the offices of K u h n , L o e b & Co. and the National C i t y Bank of N e w Y o r k , fiscal agents of the loan, in United States gold coin of the present standard of weight and fineness, free f r o m all taxes, present and future, levied b y the G o v e r n m e n t of the K i n g d o m of the Netherlands, and p a y a b l e as well in time of war as in time of peace, and whether the holder be a citizen o r resident of a friendly o r hostile state. A sinking fund is provided beginning April 1, 1925, to retire annually, during the first five years, one-thirtieth of the original principal a m o u n t of the loan b y purchases of bonds, if obtainable, b e l o w p a r . T h e unapplied balance of any installment shall revert t o the g o v e r n m e n t . After 1929 the sinking f u n d shall retire annually b y drawings a t par o n e twenty-fifth of the aggregate principal amount of bonds outstanding o n January 1, 19*30. On April 1, 1929, o r o n a n y semiannual interest d a t e thereafter, the government may, at its o p t i o n , call f o r redemption all the b o n d s of this issue then o u t standing, in whole b u t n o t in p a r t (except as a b o v e provided f o r the sinking f u n d ) at par and accrued interest. The following statements h a v e beeif a p p r o v e d b y D r . L . A . Ries, assistant treasurer general of the K i n g d o m of t h e Netherlands; having been transmitted by cable, they are subject t o c o r r e c t i o n : " T h e s e bonds are a direct obligation o f the K i n g d o m of the Netherlands and are authorized b y a c t of Parliament, a p p r o v e d D e c e m b e r 22, 1922. " H o l l a n d has been f o r centuries o n e of the f o r e m o s t financial a n d commercial powers of the world, and f o r generations o n e o f the m o s t important markets f o r United States and other foreign securities. H e r t w o principal cities, Amsterdam and Rotterdam, t o - d a y o c c u p y a position of great international importance a s banking and commercial centers. . " T h e foreign trade of H o l l a n d — n o t Including that of her colonies—aggregated in 1923 FL 3,312,000,000, which is $175 per capita a t the present rate of exchange, as against $73 per capita f o r the United States. Like Great Britain, Holland always was, and still is, a creditor c o u n t r y , h a v i n g m a d e v e r y large investments in her colonies and t h r o u g h o u t the world. A s also in the case of Great Britain, her trade m o v e m e n t in c o m m o d i t i e s proper has even in normal times shown debit balances which were m o r e than offset b v her i n c o m e f r o m her trade and investments in her large a n d valuable colonial possessions a n d f r o m her shipping a n d her financial and commercial transactions and investments in nearly every part of the globe. " H o l l and's merchant marine t o - d a y aggregates o v e r 2,600,000 gross register tons and her vessels sail e v e r y sea. " T h e total funded a n d the net unfunded d e b t of Holland at the close of the year 1923 aggregated Fl. 3.173,000,000 * ( a b o u t $1,275,500,000). T h i s is at the rate of a b o u t $182 per capita, a t par of exchange, compared with approximately $785 per capita f o r Great Britain. Holland's credit position before the war is illustrated b y the f a c t that her loans were then issued, f r o m t i m e t o time, a t interest rates of approximately 3J4 and 3 per cent. " T h e monetary unit of H o l l a n d is the guilder (florin) with a value a t par of exchange of $0,402 in the United States. " T h e Bank of the Netherlands ( H o l l a n d ' s o n l y bank of issue), as of M a r c h 31, 1924, had a gold reserve against its circulation of a b o u t 56 per cent. " T h e proceeds of this loan will b e applied t o w a r d the redemption of floating debt included in t h e total d e b t as stated a b o v e . T h e dollars realized f r o m this loan will be sold t o the Netherlands Bank t o b e f r o m t i m e t o t i m e m a d e available for payments to be effected in the United States f o r purchases and other p u r p o s e s . " The undersigned will receive subscriptions f o r the a b o v e b o n d s s u b j e c t t o allotment, at 98J4 per cent a n d accrued interest t o d a t e of delivery, t o yield o v e r 6.10 per cent o n the investment if held t o maturity. The undersigned reserve t h e right t o close t h e subscription a t a n y t i m e w i t h out notice, t o reject a n y application, t o allot a smaller a m o u n t than applied f o r and t o make allotments in their uncontrolled discretion. The a b o v e b o n d s are offered if, w h e n , a n d a s issued a n d received b y the u n d e r signed and subject t o the c o m p l e t i o n of their purchase a n d a p p r o v a l of counsel, A 1 Thisfiguredoes not include treasury bills, issued tofinancecertain advances made by the government to the Government «f t he Dutch East todies agatait which it holds the obligations of the Utter. SALE OP FOREIGN* BONDS' O i l ' S E C U R I T I E S196 T e m p o r a r y b o n d s or interim receipts exchangeable f o r definitive b o n d s when p r e p a r e d m a y be" delivered against p a y m e n t in New Y o r k f u n d s . , Application will b e m a d e in due course t o list the b o n d s on the N e w Y o r k S t o c k Exchange. KUHN, LOEB & C o . T H E NATIONAL CITY C o . NEW YORK, Apnl 28,..1924. $ 2 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 DEPARTMENT, OF THE SEINE, FRANCE (COMPRISING PARIS AND ITS ENVIRONS), TWENTY Y E A R 7 PER CENT/EXTERNAL GOLD BONDS; D U E JANU- ARY 1,^1942 Authorized under . l a w ' o f September 29, 1919, and b y a decree of t h e president ,of the republic rendered in; Council of State, dated January 14, 1922. N o t subject'..to r e d e m p t i o n during first 10 years. R e d e e m a b l e as a whole, upon 90 d a y s ' notice, at t h e o p t i o n of t h e department, o n January 1, 1932, a t 105 per cent and accrued interest, o r o n J a n u a r y 1 of any subsequent year at' 105 per cent less Yi per cent per annum f o r each y e a r after 1932. Interest p a v a b l e .January 1, and July 1. " C o u p o n .bonds, in denominations of $1,000 and $500. , F o r further information regarding this-issue, of b o n d s reference is m a d e to the a c c o m p a n y i n g l e t t e r f r o m Monsieur Aiitrand, prefect o f t h e D e p a r t m e n t of the Seine. T h e undersigned will receive^subscriptions f o r t h e a b o v e b o n d s , subject to allotment, at 90>£ ; por cent, and accrued interest t o d a t e of delivery. A t the offering price the b o n d s yield 7.95 per. cent t o . m a t u r i t y . If t h e bonds are redeemed before maturity the y i e l d increase gradually t o a m a x i m u m of 8% per cent if redeemed o n January.]!, 1932,; t h e first r e d e m p t i o n d a t e . T h e undersigned reserve !the right' t o close.'the subscription at a n y t i m e without notice, t o reject any application, t o allot a smaller a m o u n t than a p p l i e d for and t o .make.allotments in their ^uncontrolled discretion. , P a y m e n t f p r b o n d s allotted is.to.be m a d e iii N e w - Y o r k funds, against delivery o f .temporary b o n d s or certificates, deliverable if, when, a n d as issued a n d received b y the undersigned and subject t o ' a p p r o v a l of. counsel. K u h n , L o e b ; & t . C o ^ T h e National City C o . ; G u a r a n t y C o . of Nevr Y o r k ; Dillon, R e a d & C o . ; Harris, Forbes & C o . ; K i d d e r , Peabody & ,Co.; Lee, : Higginson & C o . ; B r o w n Bros. & C o . ; Blair & Co. ( I n c . ) ; Cassatt :& Co.;- T h e U n i o n / T r u s t C o . of Pittsburgh. NEW YORK $ J aniiary 21, 1922. MESSRS. KUHN, LOEB & CO., PARIS. January 15, 1922. New York. DEAR SIRS: W i t h reference t o the proposed issue of $25,000,000 20-year 7 per c e n t external g o l d b o n d s of the D e p a r t m e n t of the Seine, I b e g t o state t h e following for yourinformation. F r a n c e is divided, f o r administrative.purposes, into. 89 D e p a r t m e n t s . T h e D e p a r t m e n t of the, Seine is b y far the greatest in p o i n t of wealth and p o p u l a t i o n of t h e D e p a r t m e n t s of France, comprising t h e c i t y of P a r i s a n d its residential a n d industrial, suburbs. ' T h e p o p u l a t i o n of the D e p a r t m e n t o n M a r c h 6, 1921, the d a t e o f the last census, w a s 4,411,691. E a c h D e p a r t m e n t is g o v e r n e d by, a prefect. T h e p r e f e c t is n o m i n a t e d by, the F r e n c h .Government and exercises certain,powers conferred u p o n h i n x b y latvv T h e annual b u d g e t of the. D e p a r t m e n t is v o t e d b v t h e general council, and c o n f i r m e d b y decree of the President of the R e p u b l i c . " T h e general council is an elected b o d y w i t h considerable p o w e r s of local s e l f - g o v e r n m e n t , including the ,adr ininistration o f t h e departmental f finances, . N o taxes can, h o w e v e r , b e imposed o r m o n e y b o r r o w e d b y the D e p a r t m e n t ' w i t h o u t t h e sanction of t h e French Governments . , T h e general council. !of t h e , d e p a r t m e n t is u n d e r s t a t u t o r y o b l i g a t i o n t o levy a n n u a l l y such an a m o u n t a s ' m a y b e necessary t o balance t h e Department'^ y e a r l y b u d g e t . ™ T h e service of t h e present l o a n will, of course, b e incorporated in t h e annual b u d g e t . T h e F r e n c h G o v e r n m e n t c a n i m p o s e a d d i t i o n a l taxes in case t h e general c o n c i l fails t o m a k e sufficient provision f o r b a l a n c i n g its b u d g e t . SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 197 The loan which y o u h a v e contracted will b e the direct general obligation of the Department. T h e service o f the loans of the D e p a r t m e n t is m e t o u t of the Department's general i n c o m e which is mainly derived f r o m (a) certain G o v e r n ment and municipal subventions and c o n t r i b u t i o n s and (6) the proceeds of taxes known as " c e n t i m e s additiontiels/* which are levied annually b y the authority of Parliament and collected together with o t h e r G o v e r n m e n t and municipal taxes b y the Government tax collectors. The estimated revenue and expenditures o f the d e p a r t m e n t - f o r 1021 each amounted t o approximately frs. 350,000,000, the departmental taxes f o r that year being approximately 44 francs per capita. The outstanding debt of the d e p a r t m e n t o n D e c e m b e r 31, 1021, a m o u n t e d t o approximately frs. 984,000,000. T h e greater part of this d e b t has been contracted with the Credit Foncier d e France, w h o h a v e issued their o w n b o n d s t o the French public. T h e annual charges f o r interest and amortization of this d e b t amounted t o approximately frs. 77,870,000, in addition t o which the department provides for annuities in respect of the newly acquired transport systems a m o u n t ing to approximately frs. 32,520,000 per a n n u m . T h e present issue of $25,000,000 20-year 7 per cent external gold b o n d s in N e w Y o r k and of £3,000,000 30-year 7 per cent sinking f u n d sterling b o n d s sold in L o n d o n (which will constitute the only. external debts of the department) will increase the total d e b t , at approximately present rates of exchange, b y frs. 450,000,000 approximately, the charges for interest on and amortiration of which, calculated at approximately the present rates of exchange, will a m o u n t t o ft further frs. 33,500,000 per annum. Calculated at approximately t h e present rates of exchange, this brings the total debt up t o frs. 1,434,000,000, involving a total annual charge for interest o n and amortization of the d e b t of approximately frs. 144,000,000. The last official estimate m a d e in 1910 "of the value of the lands and buildings situated in the department, w a s a p p r o x i m a t e l y frs. 20,718,000,000, while the annual rental values of such properties, upon which the assessments for taxation are based, were then estimated a t frs. 1.471,507,000. On present d a y valuations, these figures would b e verv considerably exceeded. The $25,000,000 20-vcar 7 p e r c e n t external gold b o n d s t o b e issued b y y o u and £3,000,000 (equivalent t o a b o u t $12,500,000) 30-year 7 per cent sinking fund sterling bonds, which have been purchased b y Messrs* Helbert, W a g g & C o . (Ltd.), London, England, and associates, and are e x p c c t e d t o be issued shortly in London, are authorized in c o n f o r m i t y with the law dated September 29, 1919, and b y a decree of the President of the R e p u b l i c rendered in council of state, dated January 14, 1922. Both the present loan and the a b o v e - m e n t i o n e d sterling loan are being c o n tracted t o provide funds f o r capital expenditure on the betterment and extension of the newly acquired transport systems a n d will thus b e entirely utilized for productive purposes. The $25,000,000 20-vcar 7 per c e n t external gold b o n d s will be issued in c o u p o n form, in denominations of $1,000 and $500, will mature on January 1, 1942. and will bear interest f r o m January I, 1922, p a y a b l e semiannually on January 1 and July 1 in each year. Principal and interest, and premium in case of anticipated redemption, y » l b e payable in gold coin of the United States of America, of, or equal t o the standard of weight and fineness existing January 1 , 1 9 2 2 , at the office of K u h n , L o e b & C o . , in the citv of N e w Y o r k , and are e x e m p t f r o m all taxes, s t a m p duties, transfer a n d other duties o r deductions of a n y nature, present o r future, levied b y t h e G o v e r n ment, the Departments, municii)alites, o r other French authorities whatever they may be. The Department reserves the o p t i o n t o redeem all the b o n d s of this loan, b u t not a p a r t thereof, on January 1, 1932, a t 105 per cent and accrued interest, or o n January 1 of any subsequent vcar at 105 per c e n t less # per cent per a n n u m f o r each year f r o m January 1, 1932, t o the redemption date, together with accrued interest. Notice of such election t o redeem shall b e given t o the holders o f the bonds,;by publication at least o n c e in each week f o r 12 successive weeks, beginning not less than 90 d a y s nor m o r e than 100 d a y s prior t o the date of redemption, in two dailv newspapers of general circulation in t h e city o f N e w Y o r k . . The D e p a r t m e n t agrees, a n d will p r o v i d e in the bonds, t h a t s o long as a n y of the bonds of this issue shall b e outstanding, it will n o t create any m o r t g a g e o r lien or other c h a i s e u p o n a n y o f it* p r o p e r t y o r revenues, unless s u c h mortgage, lien o r charge shall expressly p r o v i d e t h a t the b o n d s of this issue outstanding shall, ratably with a n y o t h e r indebtedness which such mortgage, lien, o r charge m a y b e given t o secure, b e entitled t o the s e c u r i t y a f f o r d e d b y , and b e s e c u r e d b y , such mortgage; lien, o r ch&rge. 198 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, T h e D e p a r t m e n t has obtained assurance f r o m the G o v e r n m e n t of the French R e p u b l i c , t h a t while any of the b o n d s of this issue are out-standing, n o obstacle will be placed in the w a y of the D e p a r t m e n t regarding t h e purchase a n d remittance of t h e necessary f u n d s to enable the D e p a r t m e n t t o fulfill its obligations in respect thereof. Pending t h e engraving of the definitive bonds, t e m p o r a r y b o n d s or certificates, w i t h one or m o r e coupons, will b e issued. Such t e m p o r a r y b o n d s o r certificates shall b e exchangeable without expense t o the holders, f o r definitive engraved b o n d s , when r e a a y , a t the office of the Equitable T r u s t C o . of N e w Y o r k , acting as b o n d registrar. Application will b e m a d e t o list the 20-year 7 per c e n t external gold b o n d s on the N e w Y o r k S t o c k Exchange. Y o u r s v e r y truly, AUTRAND, Prefect of the Department of the /Seine. ( T h e a b o v e letter, having been received partly b y cable, is s u b j e c t t o correction.) $ 1 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 OF CITY OF LYONS, $ 1 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 OF CITY OF MARSEILLES, $15,000,000 OF CITY OF BORDEAUX—15-YEAR 6 PER CENT GOLD BONDS D U E NOVEMBER 1, 1934—INTEREST PAYABLE M A Y 1 AND NOVEMBER 1 C o u p o n bearer b o n d s in denominations of $1,000, $500, a n d $100. Principal a n d interest p a y a b l e in N e w Y o r k in U n i t e d States g o l d coin witho u t deduction f o r a n y French governmental, m u n i c i p a l , o r other F r e n c h taxes, present, or future. T h e undersigned offer the a b o v e b o n d s , s u b j e c t t o p r e v i o u s sale a t 92*4 per cent and accrued interest t o d a t e of delivery, t e m p o r a r y certificates deliverable if, when, and as issued. A t this price t h e b o n d s will yield 6.80 p e r c e n t if held maturity. P a y m e n t f o r b o n d s purchased is t o b e m a d e a t t h e offices of a n y of t h e undersigned on three d a y s ' previous notice f r o m them. T h e right is reserved to reject a n y application in whole or in part. F o r further information as t o this issue of bonds, reference is m a d e t o the a c c o m p a n y i n g letter f r o m M a u r i c e Casenave, Esq., director-general of the French Mission in the United States. Application will b e m a d e in due course t o list these b o n d s on t h e N e w York S t o c k Exchange. KUHN, LOEB & C o . GUARANTY TRUST C o . OF N . Y , KIDDER, PEABODY & C o . THE NATIONAL CITY CO. HARRIS, FORBES & C o . W M . A . READ & C o . CONTINENTAL & COMMERCIAL TRUST & SAVINGS BANK OF CHICAGO. NEW YORK, N o v e m b e r 5, 1919. REPUBLIQUE FRANQAIS, DIRECTION GENERALE DES SERVICES FRAN^AIS AUX ETATS UNIS, MESSRS. KUHN, LOEB & Co., New York, November 1, .1919. New York,, N. Y, GENTLEMEN: Referring t o the $45,000,000, 1 5 - y e a r 6 p e r c e n t g o l d b o n d s due N o v e m b e r 1, 1934, $15,000,000 each of t h e cities of L y o n s , Marseilles, and T ord e a u x , which y o u h a v e agreed t o purchase, I state the. f o l l o w i n g f o r y o u r information: T h e s e b o n d s are being issued t o replace t h e f u n d s used t o r e p a y o n November 1, 1919, t h e b o n d s of these cities remaining o u t s t a n d i n g o f t h e $36,000,000 bonds originally issued, a n d f o r other purposes. E a c h issue will b e t h e d i r e c t obligat i o n o f . t h e c i t y issuing the same, a n d t h e y will b e t h e o n l y external loans ol t h e s e cities presently o u t s t a n d i n g . ^ T h e b o n d s will b e issued in bearer c o u p o n f o r m , in d e n o m i n a t i o n s of $1,000, $ 5 0 0 , a n d $100, a n d will b e a r interest f r o m N o v e m b e r 1, 1919, a t t h e rate of p p e r c e n t p e r a n n u m , p a y a b l e semiannually o n M a y 1 a n d N o v e m b e r 1. Pnnci- SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 199 pal and interest of the b o n d s will b e p a y a b l e in United States gold coin of the standard of weight and fineness existing on N o v e m b e r 1, 1919, without deduction for anv present or future French governmental, municipal, o r other French taxes. The Government of the French R e p u b l i c has agreed t o undertake, in order t o permit the cities of Lyons, Marseilles, and Bordeaux, o r a n y of them, t o p a y the interest or principal a m o u n t of the loan in gold in the city of N e w York, t o f u r nish them and each of them, if necessary (in e x c h a n g e f o r b a n k notes o r other currency), with gold in the a m o u n t needed, a n d authorize its exportation for said purpose. As established b y t h e laws of France governing municipalities, the finances of these cities, and the authority t o b o r r o w m o n e y , levy taxes, and execute the annual budgets arc under the c o n t r o l and supervision of the French National Government. Under this supervision the municipal authorities of Lyons, M a r seilles, and Bordeaux have followed a conservative fiscal policy establishing the credit of the cities upon a sound basis. T h e internal loans n o w outstanding bear low interest rates. The three cities are, next t o Paris, a m o n g t h e largest and m o s t important trade centers of France. Originally established in ancient times on main trade routes they have grown steadily to" their present-importance, because of natural e c o nomic advantages. Situated far f r o m the zone of hostilities, their industrial condition, already sound prior t o the war, has been strengthened substantially since 1914 b y additional facilities p r o v i d e d f o r the extra war traffic they were called upon to handle, b y their increase in population and the expansion of business. Considered separately: LYONS Lyons ranks next t o Paris as a center of finance, trade, and manufacturing. Her chief manufactures arc o f silk, and in the production of these articles she leads the world. Over 90,000 l o o m s , e m p l o y i n g m o r e than 200,000 hands are engaged in these enterprises. L y o n s is the capital of the Department of R h o n e , and is situated a t the confluence of the R h o n e and Saone, b o t h of which are navigable and flanked b y several miles of q u a y s . A m p l e railway facilities provide her with outlets t o the interior. Local industries comprise metal works, chemical and soap factories, d v e works, tanneries, and glassworks. The population of the citv has k e p t pace with her industries, showing an increase from 523,796 in 1912 t o o v e r 600,000 (estimated) in 1918. T h e total internal debt amounted in 1918 (the latest figures available), t o a b o u t Fes. 93,500,000 (at Fes. 5.18, the a p p r o x i m a t e normal value of francs equals $18,050,000). T o this should be a d d e d the present issue of $15,000,000, making a total of about $33,050,000. MARSEILLES Marseilles, the leading maritime city of the Mediterranean, is one of the greatest natural sea ports of the w o r l d a n d is the southern terminus of the largest railway system in France. Situated o n the northeast shore of the Gulf of L y o n s , it controls all Mediterranean c o m m e r c e a n d sends and receives cargoes through the Suez to and f r o m India. On a normal basis, 21,000,000 gross tons of shipping annuallv enter and clear f r o m her harbor. Seven wet d o c k s , § dry d o c k s , a n d 13 miles of quavagc afTord a c c o m m o d a t i o n for 2,000 vessels a t o n e time. The traffic in merchandise has increased f r o m 4,372,000 tons in 1870 t o more than 21,590,000 tons a t the present time. Her industries are many and well diversified, among which are metal foundries a n d plants f o r the manufacture of • ^ . vegetable oils and soaps. The population has g r o w n f r o m 550,619 in 1912 t o a b o u t 750,000 (estimated), in 1918. T h e total internal d e b t in 1918 a m o u n t e d to Fes. 157,074,097 (at 5.18 equals $30,323,184). T o this should b e a d d e d the present issue of $15,000,000, making a total of a b o u t $45,323,184. BORDEAUX Bordeaux is the principal Atlantic p o r t , and has o n e of t h e three finest harbors in France^ I t is the E u r o p e a n terminus of m a n y lines trading with the Americas, Africa, and t h e British Isles. Shipbuilding is the chief industry besides which there are considerable o t h e r manufacturing enterprises* W i n e p r o d u c t i o n in the surrounding c o u n t r y contributes t o a great extent t o the c i t y t r a d e ; refined sugar, rope, woolen g o o d s , carpets, paper, and earthenware are p r o d u c e d o n a largescale. SALE OP FOREIGN* BONDS' O i l ' S E C U R I T I E S200 Her chief i m p o r t s comprise i m e t a l s , E n g l i s h coal, t i m b e r , grain a n d manuf a c t u r e d articles. She exports: chiefly cloth, chemicals, a n d the products of. l o c a l industry a n d large quantities of,wine. T h e pre-war record exhibits a n annual entrance a n d clearance f r o m her harbor of vessels aggregating 5,228,000 1 tons. T h e extensive additions m a d e t o her •quayage, a n d warehouse c a p a c i t y t o enable the h a n d l i n g , o f the large traffic d u r i n g t h e w a r h a v e greatly e n h a n c e d her opportunities f o r a c c o m m o d a t i n g even m o r e business in the future.T h e population of the city has g r o w n f r o m 261,078 in 1912 t o a b o u t 305,000 (estimated), in 1918.. T h e total internal d e b t in 1918 a m o u n t e d t o Fes. 43,442,650 ( a t 5.18 equals S8,386,612). T o ; this should b e : a d d e d .the present issue of $15,000,000, m a k i n g a total of a b o u t $23,386,612. Application w i l l . b e m a d e in d u e . c o u r s e t o list these b o n d s on-1 t h e N e w York S t o c k Exchange. Y o u r s v e r y truly, MAURICE CASENAVE, •Director General of the French Mission in the United States. $ 3 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 PARIH-LYONS-MEDITERRANEAN .RAILROAD CO. 6 PER CENT EX-, TERNAL SINKING-FUND GOLD BONDS, DUE AUGUST 15, 1 9 5 8 Part of an authorized issue of $40,000,000. C o u p o n bearer b o n d s in denominations of $1,000 a n d $500. N o t subject t o redemption b e f o r e F e b r u a r y 15, 1932, e x c e p t f o r the Sinking F u n d as stated b e l o w . T h e entire issue outstanding, b u t n o t a n y p a r t , will be redeemable at 103 per cent and accrued interest, a t the o p t i o n o f the Company, on F e b r u a r y 15, 1932, or on a n y interest date thereafter. The.remaining $10,000,000 b o n d s of this issue h a v e b e e n sold a t 83>2 per cent a n d accrued interest. T h e bonds are t o have the. benefit of a c u m u l a t i v e sinking-fund calculated to redeem the entire issue by. August 15, 1958.. T h i s sinking f u n d will b e g i n August 15, 1929, and is t o operate b y purchases of the b o n d s a t or b e l o w 100 per cent and interest or b y the redemption o n - A u g u s t 15, 1929, a n d a n y August 15 thereafter, a t 100 per cent and interest of b o n d s t o be drawn b y lot.-. F o r further information regarding .this issue of b o n d s reference is made, to the a c c o m p a n y i n g letter f r o m the Paris-Lyons-Mediterranean R a i l r o a d C o . T h e undersigned'will receive subscriptions f o r the a b o v e b o n d s , subject, to allotment, at 83 p e r cent and accrucd interest to date of delivery. A t the offering price the b o n d s yield about 7.35 per c e n t t o . m a t u r i t y . I n ease of eailier redemption of the entire issue at 103 per cent, the yield increases gradually i o a m a x i m u m of 8.78 per cent if called on February 15, 1932, the earliest d a t e on which the entire issue m a y b e redeemed, a n d in case of a n y bonds red e e m e d at 100 per cent b y the sinking f u n d , t o a m a x i m u m of 9.22 p e r cent as to a n y b o n d s redeemed on August 15, 1929. T h e undersigned reserve the right t o closc t h e subscription a t a n v t i m e without notice, t o reject any application, t o allot a smaller a m o u n t than applied for and t o m a k e allotments in their uncontrolled discretion. P a y m e n t f o r b o n d s allotted is to be m a d e in N e w Y o r k f u n d s , against delivery o f t e m p o r a r y certificates, deliverable if, w h e n , and as issued and received by the undersigned and subject t o the completion of our purchase and to a p p r o v a l of o u r counsel. T h e temporary certificates will be issued b v the National City B a n k of N e w Y o r k , . w h o will act as b o n d registrar. NEW YORK, March 17,1922. THE'NATIONAL CITY C o . KUHN, LOEB & C o . PARIS, March 16, 1922. M e s s r s . KUHN, LOEB & C o . , a n d THE NATIONAL CITY C o . , , New York, N. Y: DEAR SIRS: R e f e r r i n g t o t h e issue o f $30;000,000 6 p e r c e n t external sinkingf u n d g o l d b o n d s o f this company* d u e - A u g u s t 15, 1958, w h i c h f o r m p a r t of an a u t h o r i z e d total l o a n o f $ 4 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 1 : b e g t o g i v e y o u t h e . f o l l o w i n g i n f o r m a t i o n : T h e C o m p a g n i e d e s Chemins de. F c r d e Paris & L y o n e t a l a MediterranGe ( P a r i s - L y o n s - M e d i t e r r a n e a n R a i l r o a d C o . ) w a s organized in 1857. I t is by SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 201 far the largest railroad enterprise in Franco, o w n i n g nearly 25 per cent of t h e French broad gauge lines. T h e c o m p a n y ' s concession expires Dcceml>er 3 1 , 1058. Its system in France, comprising alx>ut 6,121 miles of road, consists of a main trunk line f r o m Paris t o L y o n s , the chief industrial center of southern France, and from L y o n s t o Marseilles, the m o s t i m p o r t a n t French p o r t o n t h e Mediterranean, with branches and extensions throughout the part o f France southeast of Paris, through the F r e n c h Riviera and t o the Swiss and Italian f r o n tiers. In addition, the c o m p a n y operates 641 miles in Algeria, of which 412 miles are under lease. T h e c o m p a n v has outstanding debenture b o n d s to the amount of Fes. 8,065,800,500 and £5,000,000. N o n e of these b o n d s carries a n y special security, nor is any part of the system o r its rolling stock mortgaged in a n y way. The capital stock of the c o m p a n y , originally a m o u n t i n g t o Fes. 400,000,000 has, through amortization to date, l>een reduced t o Fes. 345,101,000. Under the convention of 1883, between the G o v e r n m e n t of the French R e p u b l i c and t h e company, the G o v e r n m e n t guaranteed a dividend of 11 per cent t o the holders of the capital stock of the c o m p a n y . Before the w a r the c o m p a n y was so successfully operated, however, t h a t d i v i d e n d s In excess of the guaranty were paid o u t o f earnings. At the outbreak of the war, the G o v e r n m e n t took control of all the French railroads in order t o insure efficient coordination f o r military purposes. A new convention was entered into o n June 28, 1921, between the French Government and the larger railroad systems, including this C o m p a n y , a p p r o v e d by the " L a w regulating the great railroad s y s t e m s , " dated O c t o b e r 29, 1921, revising the status of the railroads. Under "this convention and law there i s established a " c o m m o n f u n d " f o r the purpose of creating financial solidarity o f the large companies and t o p r o v i d e f o r t he balancing of the receipts a n d e x p e n d i tures and, in case of need during <any focal year, t o p r o v i d e the companies w i t h funds for their current treasury needs* T h e railroad c o m p a n i e s shall turn o v e r to the " c o m m o n f u n d " a n y balance o f their gross receipts available after p r o v i d ing for their operating expenses, interest a n d amortization of their loans, a variable " p r i m e de g e s t i o n " (operating premium) intended t o encourage efficient and economic operation, the guaranteed d i v i d e n d s t o the stockholders and o t h e r charges as established b y the c o n v e n t i o n . If* a t a n y time, the gross receipts of a railroad should !>e insufficient t o m e e t the charges mentioned a b o v e , there will be paid to the railroad o u t of the c o m m o n f u n d a n y sums necessary t o make u p the deficiency* The Government of the French R e p u b l i c has undertaken t o p r o v i d e the c o m mon fund with a n y sums b y which the receipts of the c o m m o n f u n d m a v fall short of its requirements; p r o v i d e d , h o w e v e r , t h a t if the Minister of Public W o r k s so requires, the railroads will issue b o n d s f o r such purposes, the G o v e r n m e n t of the French Republic guaranteeing the interest, amortisation, a n d actual expenses o f the service of such b o n d s until paid. T h e c o n v e n t i o n further provides f o r a n adjustment of tariffs, if necessary, in order t o p r o v i d e tho railroads with sufficient revenue to meet expenditures. *In regard t o Fes. 1,673,000,000 of b o n d s issued by the company under Bpeciallaw of D e c e m b e r 26, 1924, t o c o v e r its deficiencies of Fes. 1,229,000,000 since the beginning of t h e war, the c o n v e n t i o n p r o v i d e s that the G o v e r n m e n t will reimburse the c o m p a n y therefor b y the p a y m e n t t o the company of annuities t o c o v e r the service f o r interest a n d amortization o f these bonds. The Paris-Lyons-Mediterranean Railroad C o . c o v e n a n t s , a n d the b o n d s will so state, that it will n o t , while a n y of the b o n d s o f this loan are outstanding, b e instrumental in, o r g i v e its c o n s e n t to, a n y change in t h e c o n v e n t i o n w i t h the Government of the French R e p u b l i c , a p p r o v e d b y the l a w dated O c t o b e r 29, 1921, which would curtail a n y security, guaranty, benefit o r a d v a n t a g e a c c r u i n g to the company in respect of the b o n d s of this loan, o r through the c o m p a n y t o the holders of the b o n d s of this loan under said c o n v e n t i o n o r said l a w of O c t o b e r 29, 1921. The railroad c o m p a n y also covenant*, a n d the b o n d s will so state, that, s o long as any of the b o n d s of this issue shall b e outstanding, it will n o t create a n y mortgage, lien; o r other charge o n a n y of its properties o r revenues, o r o n a n y o f the rights,,'l>enefit«, o r a d v a n t a g e s accruing t o it under t h e c o n v e n t i o n d a t e d June 28; 1 0 2 1 , ' w i t h ' t h e G o v e r n m e n t o f the French R e p u b l i c , a n d the law o f October 29, 1921, a p p r o v i n g the said c o n v e n t i o n , unless such m o r t g a g e , lien, o r charge shall expressly p r o v i d e t h a t the b o n d s of this issue outstanding shall, 202 SAXJE OF. FOREIGN BONDS' OR SECURITIES ratably with any other indebtedness which such m o r t g a g e , lien, or charge may b e given t o secure, b e entitled t o the security afforded b y a n d b e secured b y such mortgage, lien, or charge. I n case of repurchase of the concession of the Paris-Lyons-Mediterranean Railroad C o . b y . t h e G o v e r n m e n t of the .French R e p u b l i c before the termination of said concession, said G o v e r n m e n t has undertaken t o i n d e m n i f y t h e company b y the p a y m e n t of annuities, which will b e sufficient t o p r o v i d e f o r the service of interest and amortization in respect t o the b o n d s of this loan then outstanding. T h e railroad c o m p a n y has obtained assurance f r o m t h e G o v e r n m e n t of the French R e p u b l i c that, while, a n y of the b o n d s of this issue are outstanding, no obstacle will b e placed in the w a y of the railrad c o m p a n y regarding t h e purchase a n d remittance of the necessary funds t o enable the railroad c o m p a n y to fulfill its obligations in respect thereof. T h e 6 per cent external sinking f u n d gold b o n d s h a v e b e e n d u l y authorized by t h e budget law of the French Republic dated D e c e m b e r 31, 1931, in accordance with article 2 of the law regulating the great railroad s y s t e m s d a t e d October 29, 1921, pursuant t o the provisions of Title I I of the c o n v e n t i o n of J u n e 28, 1921, entered into between the G o v e r n m e n t of t h e French R e p u b l i c a n d the great French railroad systems, a p p r o v e d b y said l a w . T h e p r o c e e d s of this issue will b e utilized f o r purchases of rolling stock, f o r t h e electrification of certain lines and f o r other improvements. T h e present loan and £5,000,000 6 p e r c e n t sterling b o n d s , of t h e s a m e type as t h e present dollar issue, quite recently issued in L o n d o n w i t h m a r k e d success at 8 6 per cent, and n o w selling at 9 0 % per cent, f o r m t h e o n l y o u t s t a n d i n g external long term d e b t of t h e c o m p a n y . T h e b o n d s of this loan will b e issued in c o u p o n bearer f o r m , in denominations of $1,000 and $500, will b e dated February 15, 1922, will m a t u r e o n August 15, 1958, and will b e a r interest f r o m February 15, 1922, p a y a b l e semiannually on .February 15 and August 15 in each year. Principal a n d interest a n d premium in case of anticipated redemption will b e p a y a b l e in g o l d c o i n of t h e United States of America of or equal t o t h e standard of weight and fineness existing March 1, 1922, at the office of K u h n , L o e b & C o . , o r a t t h e office of t h e National City Bank of N e w Y o r k , in t h e c i t y of N e w Y o r k , w i t h o u t d e d u c t i o n f o r a n y French governmental taxes o r any other French taxes, present o r f u t u r e . Beginning A u g u s t 15, 1929, t h e loan will b e redeemed t h r o u g h a cumulative sinking fund b y repurchases if b o n d s are obtainable at o r b e l o w par, o r b y annual drawings at par if n o t so obtainable, in amounts, sufficient t o retire t h e whole issue b y August 15, 1958. In case of drawings, the n u m b e r s of t h e b o n d s t o b e r e d e e m e d shall b e determined b y lot and n o t i c e o f . r e d e m p t i o n , s p e c i f y i n g t h e n u m b e r s o f t h e bonds designated f o r redemption, shall b e published t w i c e a w e e k f o r a t least three weeks preceding t h e r e d e m p t i o n date, in t w o newspapers o f general circulation in the city of N e w Y o r k b y K u h n , L o e b & Co., the fiscal agents f o r the loan. On F e b r u a i y 15, 1932, for o n a n y interest p a y m e n t d a t e thereafter, the comp a n y m a y at its o p t i o n redeem all the b o n d s of this l o a n then outstanding, but n o t a p a r t thereof, a t 1 0 3 per c e n t of the principal a m o u n t thereof a n d accrued interest, p r o v i d e d notice of such r e d e m p t i o n b e published t w i c e a m o n t h for at least three m o n t h s preceding t h e r e d e m p t i o n date, in t w o newspapers of general circulation in t h e c i t y of N e w Y o r k . Application ; will b e m a d e t o list the 6 per c e n t external sinking f u n d gold b o n d s o n t h e N e w Y o r k Stock E x c h a n g e . Y o u r s v e r y truly, ST£PHAKE DERVILL£, President Board of Directors. ( T h e a b o v e letter, haying been received b y cable, is s u b j e c t t o correction.; $ 1 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 UNITED STEEL WORKS OF BUBBACH-EICH-DUDELANGE (SOCI^K ANONYME OES ACI£RIES X i O E BURBACH-EICH-DUDELANGE, GRAND DCCH? OF LUXEMBURG) "ABBED " 25-YEAR SINKING FUND 7 PER CENT GOLD BONDS O n e million dollars, of the present offering h a v e been t a k e n f o r issue in I n land b y a g r o u p o f banks headed b y D e T w e n t s c h e B a n k , A m s t e r d a m ; $1,000,00* h a v e been taken f o r issue in L u x e m b u r g b y the B a n q u e Generate d u Luxembourg SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 203 and the B a n q u e I n t e r n a t i o n a l e d e L u x e m b o u r g , L u x e m b u r g ; and $500,000 have been taken f o r S w i t z e r l a n d by n g r o u p o f batiks headed by Swiss Bank Corporation, to be dated A p r i l 1. 1020; to m a t u r e April 1, 1951. Authorized and t o b e isMKd. $10,OUO,OUO. Coupon bonds in denominations of $1,000 and $500. Interest p a y a b l e A p r i l 1 and October 1. Principal and interest payable in N e w Y o r k City, in gold c o i n of United States of America of or equal to standard o f w e i g h t a n d fineness e x i s t i n g April 1. 11*20, without deduction for any taxes, Imposts, levies, o r d u t i e s o f a n y nature now o r at any time hereafter imposed b y the G o v e r n m e n t o f the Grand D u c h y of Luxemburg, or by any taxing authority thereof o r therein. R e d e e m a b l e a s n whole (but not in purt ex* cept f o r the sinking f u n d ) , o n A p r i l 1, 1030, o r o n any Interest date thereafter, on CO days' notice, a n d oil 3 0 day** n o t i c e if culled In part f o r the sinking fund, at 100 per cent and a c c r u e d Interest. Cumulative sinking f u n d t o m i r e e n t i r e issue by maturity. GUARANTY TRUST C o . o r NEW YORK, Trustee. The a c c o m p a n y i n g letter f r o m Mr. G. Barbanson, president o i the board of directors, is s u m m a r i z e d by Idm a s f o l l o w * : T h e c o m p a n y , g e n e r a l l y k n o w n a s A R B E D , Is, with its affiliated companies, the largest single steel m a n u f a c t u r i n g concern In Europe, having a combined annual c a p a c i t y o f 2,850,000 m e t r i c turn* o f pig iron ( 1 metric ton=1.102 tons a v o i r d u p o i s ) , 2.770.000 m e t r i c t o n s o f steel ingots, 2,525,000 metric tons of finished and semifinished Iron a n d steel products, 3,000,000 metric tons of coal and 1,500,000 m e t r i c t o n s o f c o k e . It* output, which in distributed through a world-wide selling o r g a n i z a t i o n , c o m p r i s e s practically every important steel product. The c o m p a n y ' * p r o p e r t i e s a r e f a v o r a b l y located in Grand Duchy of Luxemburg in o r near t h e great L o r r a i n e iron-mining district and in the coal regions of Saur Basin. A I I B E D also o w n * c o n t r o l l i n g o r tmbstantla! interest* in various companies in Luxemburg, F r a n c e , B e l g i u m , ami G e r m a n y , producing coal, coke, pig iron, steel ingots, and finished and semifinished products. Tlie.se companies assure A R B E I ) o f coal a n d c o k e s u p p l i e s and of a regular and fixed outlet f o r a substantial part o f Its p r o d u c t i o n . Both o r e ami e o a ! r<»*ervcs nre sufficient f o r o v e r 100 years. PVKWmt or i«srfi Proceeds o f Issue nre f o I** used f o r additions and improvements to properties of company and its Mibsidlaries. which should result in decreased costs ami increased earnings, a n d f o r a d d i t i o n a l w o r k i n g capital and general corporate purposes. PROVISIONS OF ISSUE T h e c o m p a n y agree* that s o l o n g a s any o f these bonds are outstanding it will not mortgage, p l e d g e , o r c r e a t e a n y liens upon any o f its assets, franchises, or revenues as s e c u r i t y f o r indebtedness, ext-ept purchase money mortgages, mortgages existing on proj»orfy h e r e a f t e r acquired and temporary oblijiations secured on materials, supplies, o r receivables. T h e company has at present no indebtedness s e c u r e d o n m a t e r i a l s , supplies, o r receivables. FINANCIAL Except f o r o u t s t a n d i n g unsecured bonds equivalent at current exchange rate to about $LiM0,029, this issue constitute* company's only funded debt. Properties o f the c o m p a n y a r e f r e e f r o m lien except certain parcels of land which are subject t o n g o v e r n m e n t chana? o f approximately $428,958 Imposed as a guaranty f o r p r o p e r c u s t o d y o f e m p l o y e e s ' t e n s i o n and other funds. Directly o w n e d p r o p e r t i e s a t c o s t less subsequent depreciation thereon, eonverted by Messrs. Price* W a t e r h o u s e & Co. into dollars at gold values of currency a t the t i m e o f a c t u a l exjienditure. amount to $15,500,000. T h e company further Owns investments, l i k e w i s e c o m p u t e d b y it in gold values, o f about SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, 204 $18,000,000. In addition, net quick assets, a s o f date o f last b a l a n c e sheet, at the present exchange rate*, including proceeds o f present issue, w e r e equivalent to $12,900,000, m a k i n g total net assets o f $46,400,000. T h e real value, as asertained by independent engineers' appraisal o f the properties and b y estimate of value o f investments based on c u r r e n t quotations or on the company's conservative appraisal, is m u c h greater than t h i s figure. EARNINGS Net profits available f o r interest, converted t o g o l d values a t average prevailing rates, audited by Messrs. Price, W a t e r h o u s e & Co., f o r p a s t s i x fiscal years averaged over $2,700,000 p e r annum, notwithstanding the f a c t t h a t these years include the period o f post-war readjustment w h i c h universally affected all business. Such net profits f o r past three fiscal years h a v e been a s follows ; Net profits, available for interesti after charging depreciation Y e a r s ended J u l y 31— 1923- i . —- _„ „ 1924 1925—IL — . „ , ... Average net profits last 3 y e a r s _ J _ „ .... — - — ._Li. ' — Total interest charges upon completion o f this J financing. and all taxes - $2,376,668 3,863,472 13,225,330 3,155,156 . — 1,019,902 Such average net profits; are m o r e than .three and nine-hundredths t i m e s such total interest charges. Such net profits f o r last five months o f 1925 w e r e $1,500,000, o r a t , rate of $3,600,000 a year, o r o v e r three a n d fifty-two-hundredths t i m e s interest charges. Foregoing net profits d o n o t reflect; any benefits f r o m p r o c e e d s o f this'issue, which should substantially increase earnings, n o r d o t h e y i n c l u d e t h e effects of the company's recent acquisition o f a l m o s t the e n t i r e b a l a n c e o f over 75 per cent of tlie outstanding stock of the c o m p a n y ' s m a i n s u b s i d i a r y (now 98y 2 per cent o w n e d ) which, a f t e r ail interest, earned about $1,000,000 i n 1925. Dividends have been paid in each o f past 14 years, e x c e p t 1915, average for period having been equivalent to $8.61 per share. T h e last d i v i d e n d w a s equivalent to $6.79 per share, a t the then current r a t e o f e x c h a n g e . Company's dividend policy has been v e r y conservative, a l a r g e p a r t o f total profits having been retained in business i n f o r m o f reserves. GENERAL A s a L u x e m b u r g corporation, Arbed h a s the a d v a n t a g e o f f r e e d o m from reparations and reconstruction burdens. Its management is recognized as one o f m o s t conservative a n d experienced on the Continent, its leading figures representing families associated with the c o m p a n y o r its predecessors since their inception I Application will be made to list these bonds on the N e w Y o r k Stock Exchange. Ninety-two and one-half and interest, to yield over 7.67 p e r cent, when, as, and if issued and received by us and subject to approval o f counsel. AH legal details to be passed''on f o r the bankers b y Messrs! D a v i s , P o l k , W a r d w e l l , Gardiner & Heed, o f New. York, and Me. P a u l Emtle Jnnson, o f Brussels, Belgium. It is expected that trust receipts o f Guaranty T r u s t Co. of N e w York will l>e ready f o r delivery on or about April 14, 1926. GUARANTY C o . OF NEW , YORK. KUIIN, L033 & Co. Nora:.—AH conversions;of Belgian f r a n c s t o dollars, unless otherwise stated, h a v e been m a d e a t approximately the current r a t e o f e x c h a n g e , 3.65 cents per . , .. franc. . . . W e d o n o t guarantee the statements and figures c o n t a i n e d herein, which in p a r t have been received by cable, b u t they a r e taken f r o m s o u r c e s w h i c h , we b e l i e v e to be reliable!! MAUCH 31; 1926. Includes $863,780 applicable to the 2 prior years. SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 205 U X M U STEEL WORKS OP BURUACU-EICH-DUDELANGE (S0Cl£r£ ANONYME DES Aci£U!B8 UtVNIE8 PE Ilt-KUACH-ELCH-DUDELANGE) LUXEMRUBO. March 27, 1!>20. MESSRS. KUHN, LOEB & Co., AND GUARANTY CO. o r NEW YORK. GENTLEMEN: I n c o n n e c t i o n w i t h the issue o f $10,000,000 25-year s i n k i n g f u n d 7 per cent gold b o n d s o f the S o d & e A n o n y m e d e s A c i c r i e s K e u n i e s d e B u r b a c h Eich-Dudelunge ( U n i t e d Steel W o r k s o f I l u r b a e h - K I c h - D u d e l a n g e ) , w e take pleasure in giving y o u t h e f o l l o w i n g in f o r m a t i o n : HISTORY AND BUSINESS The company, g e n e r a l l y k n o w n a s A H B H D , is o n e o f t h e l e a d i n g steel c o m panies on the Europcttu c o n t i n e n t . W i t h Its affiliated c o m p a n i e s f t constitutes the largest single steel m a n u f a c t u r i n g c o n c e r n in E u r o p e . T h e total c a p a c i t y of the company and its affiliated c o m p a n i e s a m o u n t s t o a b o u t 2,880,000 m e t r i c tons of pig iron ( 1 m e t r i c t o n — 1 . 1 0 2 tnns a v o i r d u p o i s ) , 2.770,000 m e t r i c tons of steel ingots, 2,525,000 m e t r i c toils nf tlnishod a n d semifinished i r o n a n d steel products, 3,000.000 m e t r i c tons o f co.nl a n d J.5U0.000 m e t r i c tons o f c o k e jH»r annum. A R B E D and i t * affiliated coniiunUtt h a v e a t o t a l o f 04,000 employees. The company i s well i n t e g r a t e d a n d i u business i s w i d e l y diversified, its output comprising p r a c t i c a l l y e v e r y i m p o r t a n t steel product. I t has its o w n selling organization t h r o u g h o u t t h e W o r l d . The company w a s f o r m e d in O c t o b e r . 1011. a s ft c o n s o l i d a t i o n o f the " F o r g e s d'Elch, le Gallais-Metz & C o . / ' eHtfthlishfMl 1&47* t h e ** M i n e s d u L u x e m b o u r g et Forges de Snrrehruck." e s t a b l i s h e d LS5G. a n d t h e I l a u t s - F m i r n e i m x et F o r g e s de Dudelange/' established 1882. RNORERTY AND AFFILIATIONS The company's p r o i n r t i e s a r e f a v o r a b l y s i t u a t e d in t h e G r a n d D u c h y o f Luxemburg in o r n e a r the g r e a t L o r r a i n e i r o n m i n i n g d i s t r i c t a n d in t h e c o a l regions o f the Sanr B a s i n . T h e c o m p a n y ' s m a i n p l a n t s a r e located at D u d e lange, Esch-sur-Alzetti\ DointncJdaiige, a n d E l c h , a l l in t h e G r a n d D u c h y o f Luxemburg, a n d a t B u r b a eh a n d I l o s t e n b a c h In t h e S a a r B a s i n , w i t h blast furnaces having an a n n u a l c a p a c i t y o f 1,450,000 m e t r i c t o n s o f p i g iron, steel works and rolling m i l l s w i t h a n a n n u a l c a p a c i t y o f 1,420.000 m e t r i c t o n s o f semifinished and finished p r o d u c t s 4 0 0 c o k e o v e n s , f o u n d r i e s , etc. T h e c o m pany owns o r has m i n i n g c o n c e s s i o n s c o v e r i n g a b o u t 2,775 a c r c s in the G r a n d Duchy o f L u x e m b u r g , 17,000 a c r e s in L o r r a i n e , a n d 2,950 acres^ in the Meurthe-et-Moselle, w h i c h s u p p l y t h e c o m p a n y ' s e n t i r e i r o n - o r e requirements and are estimated t o c o n t a i u r e s e r v e s sufficient t o c o v e r t h e c o m p a n y ' s n e e d s for'over 100 years. The company o w n s , d i r e c t l y o r t h r o u g h subsidiaries, c o a l - m i n i n g c o n c e s s i o n s covering 8,580 a c r c s i n B e l g i u m a n d G e r m a n y . I n a d d i t i o n the c o m p a n y operates under a long-term c o n t r a c t t h e c o a l fields o f t h e w e l l - k n o w n E s c h w e i l e r Bergwerksverein o f w h o s e c a p i t a l s t o c k a n i m p o r t a n t p a r t is o w n e d b y A R B E I ) . 1 1 Under this contract enter**! Info In ARBED guaranteed dividends of 14 per cent on the capital stock of the Eschwellrr Co. until 1043. when ARBED was to lnivfe'the option of renewing the contract for 30 yearn by guaranteeing dividend* of 8 per cent per annum; ARBKD also agreed to buy all Eschweller stock offered to it la 1943 at 250 per cent. In connection with thte rernlori«atlon law of Germany* ARBED and Eschweiler have agreed to a revalorization of the term* of the contract to 60 per cent of the former figures so that the dividend gu&rantod on the Eschweiler capital stock now amounts to 8.40 per cent per annum until 1943. when ARKKD shall have the right to renew the contract Tor 30 years with guaranteed dividend* of 4.80 per cent per annum: correspondingly, the price to be paid for each Eschweiler share offered to ARBKD in r,»43 is 150 per cent. ARBED ft advi*ed by all legal authorities consulted by it that the court, if appealed to by any dissenting Eschweiler stockholder, will fountain the foregoing agreement, in which cage annual dlridends guaranteed on the Eschweiler capital stock would amount to marks 3.192,000 <|750,Gl«JK If the agreement should not he sustained, which np^ pears extremely unlikely, the amount of dividends to be guaranteed would not exceed martor 5,320,000 (|l,2fi0.tr»O). A considerable amount of the guaranteed dividends would revert in any ca«e to ARBED because of Its shareholdings In the Eschweiler Co. Under the contract any surplus earnings nf K»chwciler remaining after the payment ,of the guaranteed dividends accrue, to ARBED, 92028--31—rrl—14 206 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, T h e s e fields, located near Aix-la-Chapelle, contain large a m o u n t s o f anthracite, steam, and excellent coking coal. It is estimated that reserves of coking coal a r e sufficient f o r the needs of A R B E D and its affiliated c o m p a n i e s f o r at least a s long as their o w n iron o r e will last. T h e E s c h w e i l e r Co. h a s over GOO c o k i n g ovens, w i t h complete installations f o r the recovery of by-ptoducts, and is equipped w i t h blast furnaces, steel plant, rolling mills, and a structural shop, which a r e capable of producing 110,000 tons of p i g iron and 100,000 tons o f finished p r o d u c t s per annum. T h e Eschweiler Co. at present produces annually 3,000,000 t o n s o f coal and 625,000 tons of coke, Additional coke ovens a r e under construction and the output o f c o a l could be increased to 5,000,000 t o n s per annum w i t h practically no increase in the present installations other than the construction o f m o r e workmen's houses in order to provide for a d d i t i o n a l labor. A B B E D f u r t h e r o w n s over 98Vj per cent o f the capital stock o f t h e Society JVIgtallurgique des T e r r e s R o u g e s ( R e d E a r t h Metal C o . ) , a L u x e m b u r g corporation, a n d , directly o r indirectly, practically all o f the shares o f Soci£t6 Mini&re des Terres Rouges ( R e d Earth Mining C o . ) , a F r e n c h corporation, w h i c h w e r e f o r m e d in 1919 t o purchase f r o m the well-known G e r m a n company Gelsenkirchen its properties situated in the Grand D u c h y o f Luxemburg* o n the l e f t b a n k o f the R h i n e and in France. T h e s e companies o w n extensive iron-mining concessions and have a n annual producing capacity o f 1,320,000 m e t r i c tons o f p i g iron and 1,250,000 m e t r i c tons of steel. T h e w o r k i n g relations between A R B E D , the E s c h w e i l e r Co., a n d the Bed E a r t h Metal Co. a r e so close that, f r o m a n operating standpoint, t h e y may be considered a single concern. A c o m m o n selling c o m p a n y , the M Columeta (Comptoir Metallurgique L u x e m b o u r g e o i s ) , w h i c h h a s a w o r l d - w i d e organization, handles exclusively the sale of all t h e metallurgical p r o d u c t s o f the three companies throughout the markets of the w o r l d . Moreover, A R B E D and Soci£t6 Metallurgique d e s T e r r e s R o u g e s h a v e recently entered into an agreement of community o f interest, u n d e r t h e t e r m s o f which A R B E D is t o manage and operate the T e r r e s R o u g e s plants a n d the profits of the t w o companies are to be pooled, w h i c h should result in substantially increased earnings available f o r interest requirements. I n addition to the foregoing, A R B E D controls the prosperous and wellk n o w n Felton & Guilleaume A . G. ( C o l o g n e ) , and Clouterie & TrSfilerie des Flandres ( G h e n t ) , and o w n s substantial interests in various other companies which m a n u f a c t u r e a w i d e line of iron and steel products, including drawn wire, barbed wire, nails, rivets, w i r e cables, small tools, iron a n d steel pipe, and long-distance telephone and telegraph cables, and insure t o A R B E D a regular and fixed outlet f o r a substantial p a r t o f its p r o d u c t i o n . T h e principal p r o d u c i n g plants o f the c o m p a n y and its affiliated companies h a v e been well maintained and progressively modernized, excepting, however, the rolling mills of the plant a t Burbach w h e r e the m o d e r n i z a t i o n h a s just been started. PURPOSE OF ISSUE T h e proceeds o f the present issue are to be used in the modernization of the rolling mills a t the Burbach plant, including the electrification o f some of the d r i v e s ; to increase the production o f coal and coke o f the subsidiaries of the A R B E D - T e r r e s R o u g e s group, which, it is expected, will result in substantial savings in f u e l costs and in increased e a r n i n g s ; to c o o r d i n a t e still further the A R B E D and T e r r e s Rouges plants so as to obtain the m a x i m u m return from the c o m m u n i t y o f interest agreement recently effected between t h e t w o companies, atid f o r additional w o r k i n g capital a n d general c o r p o r a t e purposes. THIS ISSUE T h e bonds o f the present issue a r e to be the direct obligations' o f the company/ a n d the c o m p a n y agrees, and the bonds w i l l so provide, that s o l o n g a s any of the^boiUls o f this issue shall b e outstanding, it will n o t m o r t g a g e , pledge, pr c r e a t e a n y Hens u p o n any^ of. Its assets^ franchises, o r revenues a s security for the p a y m e n t of a n y loan o r indebtedness, b u t this shall n o t a p p l y t o purchase m o n e y m o r t g a g e s , m o r t g a g e s existing o n property h e r e a f t e r acquired; o r teufc p o r a r y l o a n s o r i n d e m n i t y f o r a period o f n o t m o r e t h a n o n e y e a r incurred i » the usual c o u r s e o f business secured on m a t e r i a l s o r supplies o r a c c o u n t s or b i l u SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 207 receivable. T h e c o m p a n y h a s a t p r e s e n t n o Indebtedness secured 011 m a t e r i a l s , supplies, o r receivables. The company lias n o o t h e r f u n d e d d e b t o u t s t a n d i n g . c x c e p t Fes. r&,151,500 o f Belgian f r a n c bonds, bearhr.: 4 jrer c e n t a n d 5 p e r cent; interest, all o f w h i c h are unsecured, A m o u n t i n g t o t h e e q u i v a l e n t o f a b o u t $1,940,021) at the c u r r e n t rate of exchange. The $10,000,000 25-year s i n k i n g f u n d 7 |**r c e n t g o l d b o n d s w e r e authorized I>y the stockholder* at the g e n e r a l m e e t i n g o f s t o c k h o l d e r s on N o v e m b e r 28, 1925. T h e bonds will bo in eouiKin form, in d e n o m i n a t i o n s o f $1,000 a n d $.300, will be dated April 1, 1920. will m a t u r e A p r i l 1. 1951, a n d w i l l b e a r Interest at the rate o f 7 i>er cent p o r a n n u m f r o m A p r i l 1. 1926, p a y a b l e s e m i a n n u a l l y 011 April 1 aiul O c t o b e r 1 o f c : u h y e a r . P r i n c i p a l a n d Interest w i l l be p a y a b l e in the borough o f M a n h a t t a n . In t h e c i t y o f N e w Y o r k , a t the o p t i o n o f the holders, either a t the o f l h v o f K u h n , L o e b & C o . o r a t t h e p r i n c i p a l office o f Guaranty Trust C o . o f N e w Y o r k , in g o l d c o i n o f the United States o f A m e r i c a , of or equal to the s t a n d a r d o f w e i g h t a n d fineness e x i s t i n g A p r i l 1, 1926, w i t h out deduction f o r a n y tuxe*. Im)H>*u$, levies, o r d u t i e s o f a n y n a t u r e now* o r at any time h e r e a f t e r i m p o s e d b y t h e G o v e r n m e n t o f t h e G r a n d D u c h y o f Luxemburg o r b y a n y t a x i n g a u t h o r i t y t h e r e o f o r therein* On April 1, 1936, o r a n y Interest d a t e t h e r e a f t e r , the c o m p a n y w i l l h a v e the light to redeem all b u t not p a r t o f t h e b o n d s a t the t i m e o u t s t a n d i n g a t 100 per cent and a c c r u e d interest, n o t i c e o f s u c h r e d e m p t i o n t o b e given b y a d v e r tisement, the first a d v e r t i s e m e n t t o a p p e a r at least 60 d a y s b e f o r e s u c h redemption date. SIXKIWQ FOND The c o m p a n y a g r e e s t o e s t a b l i s h a c u m u l a t i v e s i n k i n g f u n d c a l c u l a t e d to retire the whole issue by m a t u r i t y . T h e c o m p a n y shall h a v e the right t o m a k e sinking-fund p a y m e n t * in b o n d s a t p a r in lieu o f c a s h . T o t h e e x t e n t that sinking-fund installments shall not b e p a i d in b o n d s , a v a i l a b l e m o n e y s a r e to be applied to the r e d e m p t i o n o f b o n d * a t 100 p e r c e n t o n a n y interest d a t e . N o t i c e of redemption o f b o n d s d r a w n b y lot is to be g i v e n b y a d v e r t i s e m e n t , t h e first advertisement to a p p e a r at least 3 0 d a y s b e f o r e each redemption date* FINANCIAL Directly o w n e d p r o p e r t i e s a t c o s t less s u b s e q u e n t d e p r e c i a t i o n thereon, c o n verted by Messrs. P r i c e , W a t e r h o t i s e & C o . into d o l l a r s ( a t gold v a l u e s o f c u r rency a t the t i m e o f a c t u a l e x p e n d i t u r e ) a m o u n t t o $15,500,000, w h i l e , b a s e d on a recent appraisal b y i n d e p e n d e n t e n g i n e e r s , t h e r e p r o d u c t i o n c o s t o f these properties, less d e p r e c i a t i o n , is m u c h g r e a t e r . T h e s a m e h o l d s t r u e o f t h e investments in o t h e r c o m p a n i e s . T h e s e , c o m p u t e d a s a b o v e b y the c o m p a n y , and including the a d d i t i o n a l T e r r e s R o u g e s s h a r e s r e c e n t l y a c q u i r e d , represent a gold value o f a p p r o x i m a t e l y $18,000,000, w h i l e t h e i r e s t i m a t e d v a l u e , b a s e d on current m a r k e t q u o t a t i o n s o r an t h e c o m p a n y ' s o w n c o n s e r v a t i v e a p p r a i s a l , is substantially in e x c e * s o f t h i s figure. T h e net q u i c k a s s e t s a s o f t h e d a t e of the last balance s h e e t a t t h e p r e s e n t e x c h a n g e r a t e , i n c l u d i n g t h e p r o c e e d s of the present issue, w e r e e q u i v a l e n t t o $12,900,000. S u c h n e t q u i c k a s s e t s a r e now equal to at least t h i s a m o u n t . While the total net a s s e t s , c o m p u t e d a s a b o v e , a m o u n t t h u s t o $46,400,000, they huve, a s stated a b o v e , a real v a l u e m u c h g r e a t e r t h a n t h i s a m o u n t The properties o f t h e c o m p a n y a r e f r e e f r o m Hen e x c e p t f o r c e r t a i n p a r c e l s of land which a r e s u b j e c t t o a G o v e r n m e n t eh u r g e in t h e a m o u n t o f a p p r o x i mately $428,958 imposed a s a g u a r a n t y f o r t h e p r o p e r c u s t o d y o f e m p l o y e e s ' pension and o t h e r f u n d s . The capital s t o c k o f the c o m p a n y c o n s i s t s o f 240,000 s h a r e s w i t h o u t p a r value. EAUMNt;* Net profits o f the c o m p a n y a v a i l a b l e f o r i n t e r e s t a f t e r d e p r e c i a t i o n a n d all taxes, f o r the past t h r e e fiscal y e a r s , c o n v e r t e d t o g o l d v a l u e s a t a v e r a g e prevailing rates, a u d i t e d b y M e s s r s . P r i c e , W a t e r h o u s e & Co,, h a v e bet>n a s f o l l o w s ; 208 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, Net profits, available for interest, after charging depreciation and all taxe* Y e a r ended J u l y 3 1 : 1023 „ 1924 192 5 $2*870,00$ ... : 1 S63,472 3,225,330 N e t profits available f o r interest, as sliown above, averaged o v e r $3,155,156 per annum. T h i s is equivalent to more than three a n d nine oiie-hundredths times total animal interest requirements, upon completion o f this financing. Net profits available f o r interest, a f t e r depreciation and taxes, f o r the five months ended D e c e m b e r 31, 1925, amounted to a p p r o x i m a t e l y $1,500,000, which is at the rate o f about $3,000,000 per aiuuim;- or over three and iifty-two oiiehundredths times Interest charges. Net profits f o r the six years ended July 55V1020 to 1025, on the same bnsis, converted t o , g o l d values at average providing rates, as shown by an audit of M e s s r s / Price, W a t e r h o u s e & C o . , averaged over $2,700,000 annually, notwithstanding tlie f a c t that those' years include the period of p o s t w a r readjustment ivhich' universally affected all business. T h e foregoing earnings, do not, o f . course,"reflect a n y benefits f r o m the proceeds o f this issue nor. tlie, pooling of the T e r r e s H o u s e s profits o r the effects o f the company's, recent acquisition o f almost the entire b a l a n c e of over 75 p e r cent o f the outstanding T e r r e s R o u g e s stock, all of which should snlv stantiaUy increase the amount of earnings available f o r interest requirements. T h e earnings o f T e r r e s R o u g e s f o r the fiscal y e a r ended Decern her 31. 1925r a f t e r deducting interest, amounted to a b o u t $1,000,000. A R B E D has pursued a very conservative dividend policy, a large p : m of its total profits since its inception having been retained in the business in the f o r m of depreciation and. other reserves. Dividends have been paid in each y e a r since the establishment o f tlie company in its present f o r m in 1911, except in 1915, the dollar equivalent having been not less :thon $5.68 per share {\\i 1923) and a v e r a g i n g $8.01 p e r share per a n n u m - f o r the period. T h e - h i s t dividend ; w a s equivalent to $0.79 per share a t the then current rate of exchange.GENERAL A s a : c o r p o r a t i o n of the Grand Duchy of-Luxemburg,••ARBED h a s the advantage ..of- being entirely .free f r o m any reparations or reconstruction burdens. T h e . : G r a m l D u c h y of L u x e m b u r g is an independent sovereign State. In 1921 it entered into an economic union with Belgium w h i c h is to run f o r . 5 0 years. Which, eliminates c u s t o m s barriers and provides f o r e c o n o m i c reciprocity and t h e , u s e . o f B e l g i a n currency in L u x e m b u r g . . T h e financial a f f a i r s o f the Grand D u c h y are; in good order, its public d e b t is-relatively, l o w , and its ordinary revenues; regularly balance ordinary expenses. «,!•• i T h e i relations between A R B E D and its employees: I m v e a l w a y s been very satisfactory and the company's policy .of carefully looking a f t e r t h e health, housing, and -welfare o f its employees, aml< their f a m i l i e s h a s been rewarded by g o o d ,will and confidence on the part of tlie employees iir every-emergency! T h e management o f A R B E D is recognized as one o f t h e most conservative and. .experienced on the Continent. T h e leading figures' represent families associated ,with the company or;-its predecessors since their inceptiou. A p p l i c a t i o n w i l l be made to list these bonds on the N e w Y o r k Stock Exchange. Very, tiruly. y o u r s , <5v BAHBAXSOR, President of tho Board of Directors. . NOTE.™-All conversions o f : Belgian f r a n c s t o d o l l a r s ; unless o t h e r w i s e stated, h a v e been m a d e at approximately tlie current rate of e x c h a n g e , 3.05 cents p e r franc. $10,000,000 STATE OF HAMUCRG (FRKK AND 1 HANS RATIO CITY OK ITAMBL'KG)., < GERMANY, 20-YEAR 0 PF/K-CENT Gou> B o x » s , DUE OCTORKU l ; 1940 Coupon bonds in denominations o f $1,000 a n d $500 each. P r i n c i p a l a n d interest p a y a b l e in N e w Y o r k C i t y in United States g o l d coin o f o r e q u a l t o t h e present s t a n d a r d o f w e i g h t a n d fineness w i t h o u t d e d u c t i o n f o r a n y G e r m a n taxes,1 Includes $S63,7S0 applicable to the 2 prior years. SALE OF FOHEIGX B O N D S Oil S K C U l l I T I E S 209 present o r f u t u r e , a m i tmyahle i n t i m e o f w a r u s w e l l a s i n t i m e o f p e a c e a n d whether the h o l d e r b e a c i t i z e n o r r e s i d e n t o f a f r i e n d l y o r a h o s t i l e S t a t e . Interest payable A p r i l 1 n n d O c t o l i e r 1. I n t e r n a t i o n a l A c c e p t a n c e S e c u r i t i e s & Trust Co., fiscal agent*. The bonds a r e r e d e e m a b l e , at t h e o p t i o n o f t h e S t a t e , In w h o l e o r in p a r t b y lot, a t 100 per c e n t a n d a c c r u e d interest o n O c t o b e r 1, 1931, o r o n a n y interest date thereafter on GO d a y s ' published n o t i c e . T h e f o l l o w i n g letter h a s b e e n r e c e i v e d f r o m H o n . C a r l C o h n , s e n a t o r , p r e s i d e n t of the finance d e p u t a t i o n o f t h e S t a t e o f H a m b u r g ; h a v i n g been t r a n s m i t t e d by cable, it Is s u b j e c t t o c o r r e c t i o n : "The Sfrite.—-The S t a t e o f H a m b u r g ( F r e e a n d H a n s e a t i c C i t y o f H a m b u r g ) is one of the independent S t a t e s c o n s t i t u t i n g t h e f e d e r a t i o n o f the R e p u b l i c o f Germany. I t includes w i t h i n its t e r r i t o r y o f 100 s q u a r e miles, a m o n g o t h e r municipalities, the c i t y o f H a m b u r g , w h i c h Is the s e c o n d largest c i t y in G e r many, and the c i t y o f C u x h n v c n . Both o f these are important harbors, the port o f H a m b u r g b e i n g In p o i n t o f t o n n a g e t h e l a r g e s t in G e r m a n y , its 1025 cargoes having t o t a l e d 32,044.000 m e t r i c t o n s I n c o m i n g a n d 7,217,000 m e t r i c tons o u t g o i n g ; f o r t h e first h a l f o f 1920 the i n c o m i n g c a r g o e s h a v e a m o u n t e d to 5,32.1,000 m e t r i c tons, nnd t h e o u t g o i n g c a r g o e s t o 4,117.000 m e t r i c tons. The value of the sea-going e x p o r t s f r o m H a m b u r g in 1025 w a s $1,028,088,000. " T h e Itiver EIIK\ on w h i c h t h e hnrimr o f H a m b u r g Is s i t u a t e d , a l s o c o m m a n d s an Important Inland c o m m e r c e , toeing n a v i g a b l e f o r a d i s t a n c e o f o v e r 450 miles, well into C z e c h o s l o v a k i a . H a m b u r g is the h o m e p o r t o f several l a r g e international shipping line**. I n c o m i n g s h i p s In 1025 h a d a n a g g r e g a t e tonnage of 10,raV*4(», e x c e e d i n g b y 2,450,000 t o n s the t o n n a g e o f the i n c o m i n g ships in 1013. H a m b u r g h a s o v e r IS m i l e s o f p i e r s f o r sea-going vessels. Among H a m b u r g h 7.700 i n d u s t r i a l e s t a b l i s h m e n t s a r e s o m e o f the w o r l d ' s largest shipbuilding plants, i n c l u d i n g t h o s e In w h i c h t h e Majestic, Leviathan, and B e r a m t n a , the t h r e e l a r g e s t liners afloat, w e r e built. "According to the latest c e n s u s , t h e S t a t e h a d a p o p u l a t i o n o f 1,17G,17S inhabitants, o f w h o m 1,100.905 w e r e l i v i n g lit the c i t y o f H a m b u r g . " Purpose.—The p r o c e e d s o f t h e s e In aids a r c to be used f o r the p a y m e n t o f the State's $5,000,000 1 - y o a r t r e a s u r y n o t e w h i c h m a t u r e s b n M a y 1, 1927, f o r the construction o f a d d i t i o n a l p i e r s a n d l w r i r a i l w a y s a n d o f a b r i d g e o v e r the Itiver E l b e a n d f o r t h e I m p r o v e m e n t o f real e s t a t e t o b e u s e d f o r i n d u s t r i a l purposes. " Finanecs.-^VhG r e v e n u e s o f t h e S t a t e o f H a m b u r g a r e d e r i v e d f r o m local dues and taxes, t h e i n c o m e f r o m p o r t - w o r k * a n d p u b l i c utilities, and the allotment o f certain t a x e s c o l l e c t e d b y t h e G e r m a n lieich. T h e S t a t e o w n s v a l u able properties, m o s t l y i n c o m e produeintf. Of w h i c h t h e p o r t w o r k s a l o n e represent a value o f o v e r $178,000,000. A l s o i n c l u d e d in Its p r o p e r t i e s a r e t h e Hamburg G a s & W a t e r w o r k s a n d n - s u b s t a n t i a l s h a r e i n the H a m b u r g E l e e t t f c Works. " The total external d e b t o f t h e State, Including the p r e s e n t issue, b u t afterdeducting t h e $5,000,000 1 - y e n r t r e a s u r y n o t e t o b e r e p a i d f r o m it* proceeds, 5 amounts to £2,854.178 a m i $10,000,000. T h e S t a t e h a s n o Internal d e b t except" its liability o n its old nuirk d e b t , a s r e v a l o r i z e d u n d e r t h e l a w o f J u l y 10. 1925, which must he r e d e e m e d w i t h i n a p e r i o d o f 3 0 y e a r s : a s u m o f relchmarfc* 6,700,000 h a s b e e n p r o v i d e d f o r t h e s e r v i c e o f such o l d debt f o r t h e c u r r e n t fiscal year. None o f t h e o u t s t a n d i n g l o a n s is s e c u r e d . " T h e credit o f H a m b u r g r a n k * v e r y high. B e f o r e t h e w a r it issued its l o a n s at coupbh rates o f 3 t o 4 t**r w i l t T h e StareV-bttdget/tt^rregnting $08,028,5% f o r the current y e a r , b a l a n c e s . T h e p o r t d u e s a r e collected p a r t l y in actual foreign currencies a n d even iii t h e t i m e s o f severest in Hat ion w e r e a l w a y s c o l lected on a gold basis. In 1925 these d u e s y i e l d e d o v e r $4,550,000. w h i c h a l o n e is over t w o a n d o n e - h a l f t i m e s t h e a m o u n t s r e q u i r e d f o r the s e r v i c e o f the whole external debt,* i n c l u d i n g t h e present is-suc. ** Security,—The bonda w i l l be t h e d i r e c t o b l i g a t i o n s o f t h e S t a t e Of H a m b u r g and will contain a c o v e n a n t t h a t i f . w h i l e ;iny o f the b o n d s a r e o u t s t a n d i n g , i t shall create o r i s s u e o r g u a r a n t y a n y loan o r b o n d s s e c u r e d b y lien o n a n y o f its revenues o r a s s e t s o r assign a n y o f Its revenues o r a s s e t s a s s e c u r i t y for any guaranty o f a n y o b l i g a t i o n , t h e present issue o f b o n d s w i l l b e s e c u r e d equally and ratably w i t h such o t h e r l o a n o r b o n d s o r s u c h g u a r a n t y . " T h e e n f o r c e m e n t o f t h e c h a r g e s t o w h i c h the a s s e t s a n d r e v e n u e s o f t h e German Keich a n d i t s c o n s t i t u e n t S t a t e s w e r e m a d e s u b j e c t u n d e r a r t i c l e 248 of the Versailles t r e a t y is s u s p e n d e d s o l o n g a s G e r m a n y p e r f o r m s i t s o b l i g a - 210 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, tions under< the • Dawes plan, which provides that certain revenues shall he specifically pledged as security f o r reparation payments. The public utilities in Which the State has an interest have to make yearly payments under the Dawes plan in the same manner and approximately to the same extent as private enterprises of like character. "Application will, be made in due course to list these bonds on the Ne\Vt York Stock Exchange." The dollar amounts above, where converted, are at the rate of 4.20 German marks to the dollar.; .... r An issue of £2,000,000 principal amount of 25-year sinking fund 6 per cent bonds, due October 1,1951, was sold in London on September 30,1926, by Messrs. Baring Bros. & Co. (Ltd.), N. M. Rothschild & Sons, and J. H e n r y Schroder & Co., at93M> per cent and accrued interest. . The undersigned will receive subscriptions f o r the above bonds; subject to allotment, at 01% .per cent and accrued interest to date of delivery, to yield over 0 % per cent to maturity. The undersigned reserve the right to close the subscription at any time without notice, to reject .any application, to allot a smaller amount than applied for, and to make allotments in their uncontrolled discretion. The above bonds are offered if, when, and as. issued and received by the undersigned and subject to the approval of counsel. In the' first instance, interim certificates, exchangeable f o r definitive bonds when prepared, will be delivered against payment in New'York funds. NEW YORK, October 5, 1920. KUHN, LOEB & C o . INTERNATIONAL ACCEPTANCE BANK '(INC.). BROWN BROS. & C o . J. HENRY SCHRODER BANKING CORPORATION. LEE, HIGGINSON & CO. $20,000,000 NORTH GERMAN LLOYD (NORDDEUTSCHER LLOYD), BREMEN, 20-YEAR 6 PER CENT SINKING FUND GOLD BONDS, DUE NOVEMBER 1, 1 9 4 7 Coupon bonds in denominations of $1,000 and $500 each. Principal and interest payable in New York City at the option of the holder either at the office of Kuhn, Loeb & Co, or the principal office o f Guaranty Trust Co. of New. York* in United States gold coin of or equal to the present standard o f weight and fineness and without deduction f o r any German taxes, present or future, in time of? war as well as in time of peace and whether the holder be a citizen or resident.of a friendly or hostile state. Interest payable May 1 and November 1. Beginning November 1,1929, the bonds are to be retired by a cumulative sinking fund, payable semiannually, calculated to retire the entire issue by maturity, the company to make sinking-fund payments in cash or in bonds at par, the cash to be applied to the,redemption of bonds by drawings at par. On November 1, 1932, or on any semiannual interest payment date thereafter, the company may, at its option, call f o r redemption all but not a part of the bonds then outstanding at par and accrued interest on not less than 60 days) notice by publication. Except f o r the sinking fund, bonds can not be called in part or before November 1, 1932. F o r further information regarding the company and this issue of bonds reference is made to the accompanying letter dated November 8, 1927, from the North German Lloyd. As it has been transmitted by cable, it is subject to correction. The undersigned offer the above bonds, subject to prior sale, at 94 per cent and accrued interest to date of delivery, to yield about 6.55 per cent to maturity. The above bonds are offered i f , when, and as issued and received by the undersigned and subject to| the completion of the transaction as planned and to the approval of counsel.: In the first "instance interim certificates, exchangeable f o r definitive bonds when prepared, will be delivered against payment in N e w York funds. , „ NEW YORK, November B, JB27. K U H N , LOEB & CO., GUARANTY C o . OF NEW* YORK. LEE, HIGGINSON & C o . SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES Xoum»:t"rt*cm:u LLOYD 211 (BREMEN), IlrcmiH, Xmember tf, W27. Messrs K U H N , I,OEB & c*«.f and CSrAiiANTY Co. OK NEW YORK, Sew York, Ar. 1* DEAR SIB: R e f e r r i n g t o tlu> $20,000,000 principal amount North German Lloyd (Norddeutschcr L l o y d ) Bremen, 20-ycar 0 per cent, sinking fund gold bolide, due Xoveml>er 1. 1947, w h i c h you liave agreed to purchase, we Iwg to state the following f o r y o u r i n f o r m a t i o n : Bushiest and piv$Krtic*,—The North German Lloyd, incorporated in 1857, operates through it* o w n vessel* and those o f subsidiary companies 17 different passenger and freight lines s e r v i n g m o r e than 150 jK>rts In all parts of the world. As of November l f 1027. the a g g r e g a t e tonnage o f the companyV 123 oceangoing vessels wa^ G21.000 gross registered tons, including such well-known ships as the CofimrbtM, Berlin, Drrsdcn, ATuenchen* a n d Stuttgart, while there are at present nnder construction ships a g g r e g a t i n g a n additional 1 0 1 # 0 0 gross regis* t e m l tons, Including t w o d e l u x e liners to be called the Bremen and the Eurotx% of 46.000 tons e a c h , w h i c h a r e t o be ready f o r service in April, 1029. In addition, the c o m p a n y o w n s a p p r o x i m a t e l y 00,000 gross registered tons o f smaller ships w h i c h p l y w i t h i n G e r m a n territorial waters. The entire fleet Is m o d e r n , o v e r h a l f o f It h a v i n g been built within the last eight years, and although It is c a r r i e d In the company's balance sheet as at June 30, 1927t at mlts. 142,020.000 ($33,057,000). the additions since 1920 alone represent an e x p e n d i t u r e o f gold inks. 211,322,000 ($50,314,000). The company also o w n s o r h a s substantial interests in a number o f other important shipping a n d allied enterprises, Including valuable warehouses and office buildings a n d long-term leases o n piers and drydocks in Bremen and other centers, all carried in the balance sheet much b e l o w their actual value. Purpose.—The proceeds o f these bonds w i l l b e used f o r new construction and to repay indebtedness incurred f o r construction* and f o r other corporate purposes. Part of the p r o c e e d s w i l l be deposited with the Internationale Bank te Amsterdam, A m s t e r d a m , H o l l a n d , t o b e released by it only f o r the repayment of certain Indebtedness m a t u r i n g serially t o 1934, secured by a portion o f the company's fleet, the payment o f w h i c h indebtedness the company has no right to anticipate. Upon completion o f the present financing, including repayment of the above loan, the c o m p a n y ' s total funded a n d floating debt, including the present issue, will a m o u n t t o o n l y $25,580,000. Included therein is a debt o f inks. 33,013,000 ($3,100,000) t o the G e r m a n Government, at l o w rates of interest, secured b y real e s t a t e a n d by seven small ships aggregating 28,500 tons, and certain purchase m o n e y m o r t g a g e s , w h i c h can not be repaid before maturity, amounting t o o n l y $2,112,000 o n ships aggregating 80,000 tons. T h e obligations under the D a w e s p l a n , referred t o hereafter, and current accounts payable, of approximately $8,117,000. a r e not included in the a b o v e figure. Capital. T h e c o m p a n y h a s o u t s t a n d i n g Mks. 125.000,000 fully paid common stock and Mks. 3,906.200 p r e f e r r e d stock ( o f w h i c h Mks. 1,563,000 is 25 per cent p a i d ) . T h e c o m m o n stock, at the c u r r e n t market price, represents an equity of o v e r $40,000,000. Dividends f o r 1926 at t h e r a t e o f 6 p e r cent per annum w e r e paid in June, 1^27, on both c o m m o n a n d p r e f e r r e d stock. Earnings. T h e net e a r n i n g s o f t h e c o m p a n y a s certified by the company's auditors, the F i d e s T r e u h a n d Aktiengesellschaft, Iwfore taxes and depreciation, but a f t e r provision Tor p a y m e n t s u n d e r the D a w e s plan, available f o r interest, f o r the y e a r e n d e d D e c e m b e r 31, 1926, w e r e $5,564,000, or over three and three-fourths times the net annual interest charges o n the company's total funded and short t e r m d e b t to b e presently outstanding, including these bonds. Such earnings f o r t h e s i x m o n t h s ended J u n e 30, 1927, were $4,132,000 a s compared with $2,734,000 f o r t h e corresponding period of 1926. That the c o m p a n y ' s Income Is g r o w i n g steadily d u e to Its Increasing tonnage is seen f r o m the f a c t that Its gross income in 1925 w a s $29,300,000; In 1926 it w a s o v e r $33,000,000, w h i l e f o r the first nine months o f 1927 It r o s e to approximately $34,500,000. nud the net i n c o m e f o r this period, which can not yet be definitely determined, will s h o w a s i m i l a r favorable increase. O f the c o m p a n y ' s g r o s s revenues f o r 1926 approximately $10,000,000 w a s teceived in United S t a t e s c u r r e n c y a n d m o r e than £4,000,000 ($20,000,000) in sterling, thus a u t o m a t i c a l l y p r o v i d i n g a m p l e f o r e i g n exchange f o r the c o m pany's commitments. 212 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR S E C U R I T I E S , Balance sheet. T h e balance sheet o f the c o m p a n y a s a t J u n e 30, 1S>27, after giving effect to the present financing a s certified b y t h e F i d e s T r e u h a n d Ak* tiengesellschaft, is a s f o l l o w s : ASSETS Preferred-stock liability ( 7 5 p e r c e n t unpaid on §372,1*13) Ocean-going fleeL — —----Payments on account o f ships under c o n s t r u c t i o n 1 ! Coastwise and river steamers, lighters, e t c — — — Lands, buildings (including leases o f piers a n d d r y d o c k s ) , shops, furniture and fixtures ————1 1 Cash on hand a n d b a n k balances *—. Shares and interests in other companies _J— Ship stores at Bremen and B r c m e r h u v e n — 2 Accounts receivable, and suspense i t e m s ——_— Total ; r——— —i- $279,107 33,957,145 11,772,275 118,053 1,490,904 18, 167,043 % 038,179 1,260,182 14,730,196 84,120,314 ; LIABILITIES ' Capital s t o c k : Common™Preferred— i-f — — . $29, 7 6 1 , 9 0 4 930.0-48 Dollar bonds .(present; issue) —__ ;— Legal r e s e r v e — - — i - ™ - — Reserve f o r renewals l - i ^ -i — — — Insurance reserve Revalorized b o n d s — : . — ' 'L Long-term credits.;., — '_-.J_._Sundry creditors J i ^ L ^ j ^ ^ l L Suspense accounts ( a d v a n c e passage moneys, p e n d i n g v o y a g e s , a n d reserves f o r t a x e s ) - — - — - J — : —xi Profit and loss s u r p l u s — Tqtal—-r _ - l • $30, 691; 932 20,000,000 4,047.619 1,785.714 ! 2. 380.952 620, 988 4,356,169 8,720.727 : 8,006.009 3, 510,214 84; 120,344 NOTE.—This bhlfinc'e: sheet does not show Davycs-p jan debentures. . / The . c o m p a n y : has riot included in its b a l a n c e s h e e t its. t o n n a g e s e i z e d b y the United States Government, f o r which c l a i m s a r e p e n d i n g , a n d : i t s property, seized by the Alien P r o p e r t y Custodian o f the. United Security.:, T h e , bonds will be. the. d i r e c t o b l i g a t i o n s o f . the c o m p a n y , which in the agreement under w h i c h t h e b o n d s w i l l b e issued, w i l l c o v e n a n t that if, w h i l e any o f the bonds are-outstanding, the c o m p a n y o r a n y c o m p a n y in which it o\yns, directly - o r indirectly, s t o c k h a v i n g 75 p e r cent o f t h e v o t i n g power, s h a l l . c r e a t e o r Js.sue or g u a r a n t e e a n y indebtedness o r o b l i g a t i o n s secured by lien on any o f its property (except, liens on p r o p e r t y o t h e r t h a n ships to secure, current indebtedness or obligations i n c u r r e d in t h e o r d i n a r y c o u r s e ?of business) or pledge any o f its property, a s s e c u r i t y f o r a n y g u a r a n t e e o f any indebtedness o r o f a n y obligations,, t h e present issue o f b o n d s w i l l b e secured equally and ratably with such other indebtedness o r o b l i g a t i o n s or such guar-. antcHJ^ T h e c o m p a n y m a y , however. ( a c q u i r e s h i p s ' s u b j e c t t o e x i s t i n g mortg a g e s p r o v i d e d t h a t the a g g r e g a t e ; a m o u n t o f , s u c h , m o r t g a g e s e x i s t i n g , a t any time shall never exceed $500,000., ,j .. si D a w e s p a y m e n t s : T h e p r i v a t e G e r m a n shipping c o m p a n i e s , l i k e t h e railroad and street r a i l w a y companies, h a v e e x e c u t e d a g e n e r a l d e b e n t u r e f o r their aggregate, provisional, liability f o r ; p a y m e n t s u n d e r t h e D a w e s p l a n . Each c o m p a n y will i s s u e : i n d i v i d u a l debentures w h e n its l i a b i l i t y h a s b e e n definitely determined on a reapportionment. On the b a s i s o f p r e s e n t a s s e s s m e n t s i t is estimated til at the individual D a w e s p l a n d e b e n t u r e s t o b e i s s u e d b y - t h e comp a n y will hot e x c o e d , $3,500,000,; in r e s p e c t o f w h i c h t h e m a x i m u m annual c h a r g e would, be $210,000. T h e p a y m e n t b y t h e c o m p a n y f o r t h e y e a r ending September. 1,'1928, isiestimated at-nofc m o r e than $150,000. k . . .. • • '••—^ 7 ^ s1 Not including the?Indebtednessito bcsrepald from the proceeds of this loan* rior per contra the funds deposited therefor. , .„»,. - 3 Including $r>,642,760 doe from subsidiaries, and discount on this issue of bonds. a Including $4,564,507 unallocated funds received from agents. SALE OF FOREIGN BONUS Clll SECURITIES 24S Sinking f u n d : Beginning November 1, 1920. the bonds are to be retired by a cumulative sinking fund, payable semiannually, calculated to retire the entire issue by maturity, the company to make sinking fund payments in cash or in bonds at par, the cash to bo applied to the redemption of bonds by drawings at par. Redemption: On November l f 1032. or on any semiannual interest payment date thereafter, tho company may, at its option, call f o r redemption all but not a part of the IKUHIK then outstanding at par and accrued Interest on not less than CO days' notice by publication In at least two newspapers of general circulation in the Borough nf Manhattan, city of New York. Except f o r the sinking fund, bonds can not be call ml In part o r before November l f 1032. General: The bonds will be In coupon bearer form, In denominations of $1,000 and $500; will JKJ dated November 1, 3027; will be due November 1, 1047, and the principal thereof and semiannual interest thereon will be payable In New Y o r k City at the option of the holder, either at the ollice of Kuhn, I / w b & Co. or the principal office of Guaranty Trust Co. o f New York In gold coin of the United States of America of or equal to the present standard of weight and fineness and without deduction f o r any German taxes pro.sent or future, and will be payable in time of war as well as in time of pcacc and whether the holder be a citizen or resident of a friendly o r a hostile state. Application will IKS made In due course to list these bonds on the Now York Stock Exchange. All conversions in this letter f r o m German Into United States currency have been made at the rate o f 4.20 marks to the dollar. Yours very truly, NoftTJi GERMAN LLOYD, NORDDEUTSCHER LLOYD, BREMEN, B y CARL JOACHIM SUMMING, General Director. B y ARNOLD PCTZET, Director, $14,000,000 CZECHOSLOVAK REPUBLIC S TEH CENT SKCCREU EXTERNAL SINKING FUND GOLD LOAN ov 1022, DUE APRIL 1, 1051 Part of an authorised issue of $50,000,000 or £10,000.000. Coupon bearer bonds in denominations of $1,000, $500, and $100. The present issue will consist o f $14,000,000 dollar bonds in New York, £2,800,000 sterling bonds in London, to be issued by Messrs. Baring Bros. & Co. (Ltd.), N. M. Rothschild & Sons, and .1. Henry Schroder & Co., and £500,000 sterling bonds to be issued in Amsterdam by Messrs. Hope & Co. Interest payable April 1 and October 1. Not subject to redemption before May 1, 1032, except f o r the sinking fund, as stated M o w . T h e entire issue outstanding, but not any part, will be redeemable at 10$ per cent ami accrued Interest, at the option of the Government, after May 1, 1032, on giving three months' notice. Principal, interest and premium payable in New York City in gold coin of the United States, o f the present standard o f weight and fineness, without deduction f o r any Czechoslovak taxes o r duties, p r e s e n t o r future, and payable in time o f w a r m well as in time o r peace, and whether the holders of the bonds be subjects o f a friendly or hostile State. The Czechoslovak Republic is one of the succession States o f the former Austro-Hungarlan monarchy and w a s officially, recognized by the treaties o f Versailles, S t Germain, and Trianon, which i t signed as one of tlie allied a n d associated powers. The bonds are to be redeemable by means o f a cumulative annual sinking fund of 1 per cent to be applied semiannually t o the purchase o f bonds under PARLOR to drawings at par should tlie IN aids? b e unobtainable under par, the tot redemption by lot taking place October Iv 1023. . t The authorized Issue is secured by a first specific charge on the receipts from the customs duties and on the net profits o f the tobacco monopoly, which together in 1021 yielded kr. 1^815,500,000, a n d f o r 3022 a r e estimated to yield kr. 1,246,000,000, which a t the rate o f 1 % cental is ^equivalent t o $21,812,000. 214 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, T h e Czechoslovak R e p u b l i c lias undertaken to p a y weekly, f o r remittance t o Messrs. B a r i n g Bros. & Co. ( L t d . ) , London, at least one fifty-second part o f the total annual requirements f o r the service o f interest and sinking fund of the loan. Messrs. Baring Bros. & Co. ( L t d . ) a r e to r e m i t to N e w Y o r k a prop o r t i o n a t e p a r t o f these weekly payments applicable to the d o l l a r bonds. A l l d r a w n b o n d s and matured coupons shall be accepted by the Czechoslovak Government a t their f u l l f a c e value at the then current rate of exchange in p a y m e n t of customs duties. It is to be provided in a " general bond," which is to be deposited w i t h Messrs. B a r i n g Bros. & Co. ( L t d . ) , that if at any time It m a y be necessary o r exptnlient to obtain the sanction of the bondholders in r e s i s t t o any m a t t e r in connection w i t h the rights of the holders o f the bonds of this l o a n , they m a y , by publication in two London, two N e w York, and t w o A m s t e r d a m newspapers, convene a general meeting o f the bondholders, to be held in the city of L o n d o n , upon 30 days* notice, and the decision of the holders of a m a j o r i t y in nominal value of bonds present a t the meeting, either in person o r represented b y p r o x y , shall be b i n d i n g upon all bondholders, but such m a j o r i t y must b e comprised of not less than 50 p e r cent of the sterling bonds and not less than 50 per cent o f the dollar b o n d s outstanding. T h e above lias been taken f r o m the loan contract and f r o m the accompanying letter f r o m P r i m e Minister Edouard Benes, to w h i c h letter reference is made for f u r t h e r information. A s all documents h a v e beeu received by c a b l e the within is subject to correction. T h e undersigned will receive subscriptions f o r the above bonds, subject to .allotment at 0 6 % Per cent and accrued interest to date o f delivery. A t the offering price the bonds will yield over 8.30 per cent to maturity. T h e undersigned reserve the right to close the subscription at any time without notice t o reject any application, to allot a smaller amount than applied for,, a n d to make allotments in their uncontrolled discretion. T h e above bonds are ottered if, when and as issued and received b y the undersigned and subject to the completion of their purchase and approval of their counsel. Interim receipts will be delivered against payment in N e w Y o r k funds f o r bonds allotted pending the receipt of the engraved bonds. T H E NATIONAL CITY Co. K U H N . LOEB & C o . KIDDER, PEABODY & C o . APRIL 6, 1922. M e s s r s . KUIIN, LOEB & C o . , KIDDER, PEABODY & C o . , a n d T H E NATIONAL CITY CO., PRAGUE, A p r / / 5, 1922. New York City. DEAR SIRS : W i t h reference to the proposed loan to Czechoslovakia o f £3,300.000 a n d $14,000,000, being p a r t o f a total authorized issue o f £10,000,000 o r $50,000,000, secured by the first specific c h a r g e on the receipts f r o m t h e customs d u t i e s and also on the net profits f r o m the t o b a c c o m o n o p o l y , I b e g to submit the f o l l o w i n g information. . T h e customs receipts specifically charged in f a v o r o f the l o a n : 1920, krone 401,283,878; 1921, krone 750,669,527: 1922, k r o n e 528,000,000, a t exchange 1% eents, $9,240,000. T h e net profit f r o m the t o b a c c o monopoly specificallv c h a r g e d in f a v o r of the l o a n : 1920, k r o n e 449,696,463; 1921, krone 1.064,925,937; 1922, k r o n e 718,428,534, a t e x c h a n g e 1 % cents, $12,572,000. T h e state budget s h o w s the f o l l o w i n g figures: Revenue: 1920 192 1 1922 Krone 10,426,500,794 17,298,916,630 18,884, 209, 544 Expenditures: 1920_„_ 1921.1 1922 Krone 15,278,427,032 18, 026,460,144 19,812,960,479 All 1922 figures estimated. T h i s is in addition to a budget amounting f o r 1922 t o k r o n e 3,263,000,000 f o r capital e x p e n d i t u r e s mainly on railroads, post and telegraph services. Objects of the loan.—The proceeds of the loan w i l l be applied t o essential w o r k s o f p u b l i c reconstruction and development, r a i l w a y s , c a n a l s and similar purposes, and t o repayment o f t e m p o r a r y advances in connection therewith. SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 215 Outstanding national debts.—Until the liability f o r the debts of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire shall liave been settled by the Reparations Commission, It is not possible to state the exact amount o f the outstanding national debt, but in no case will the debt including the present loan exceed $53 per liead of population, calculating the exchange a t 1 % cents. As soon as the liability f o r the debts of the former Austro-Hungarlan Empire shall have been settled by the Reparations Commission, my Government will immediately make necessary arrangements to take over definitive service o f such proportion of these debts as may be assigned to them. Ry the various peace treaties, the State has acquired territory of over 140,000 square kilometers. In area it Is, therefore, nearly as large as England and Wales, with a imputation of over 13,500,000, and In this area are included about 75 per cent of the principal Industrial centers of the late Au.stro-Hungarlan Empire. The Government of the Czechoslovak Republic has the unqualified sovereign right to pledge its above receipts f o r the service o f this loan. Having been recognized « s one of the Allied and Associated Powers, It is not subject to the control which the Reiterations Commission lias the power to exercise over the state revenues o r assets of ex-enetny countries. The Czechoslovak Republic Is one o f the succession states o f the former .Austro-IIungarlan monarchy and w a s officially recognized by the Treaties of Versailles, St. Germain aiul Trianon which It signed as one of the Allied and Associated Powers. Yours very truly, EDOUARD BENES, Prime Minister of the Czechoslovak RcfMtbUc. $0,250,000 CZECHOSLOVAK R m r m . i c S PER CENT SECURED EXTERNAL SINKING FUND GOT.D I/JAX o r 1022, SERIES B , DUE OCTOBER 1, 1 9 5 2 Balance or an authorized issue o f $50,000,000, o r £10,000,000, of which bonds to the principal amount of £3,300,000 aiul $14,000,000 due April 1, 1951, were issued in 1922. Series B will consist o f $9,250,000 dollar Iwnds in New York, £1,850.000 sterling bonds In Iximlon, to be issued by Messrs* Baring Bros. & Co. ( L t d . ) , X. M. Rothschild & Sous, and J. Ilenry Schroder & Co., and £200,000 sterling bonds to be issued In Amsterdam b y Messrs. Hope & Co. Coupon bearer bonds in denominations of $1,000, $500, and $100. Interest payable April 1 and October 1. Not subject to redemption before May I, 1932, except f o r the sinking fund as stated below. All bonds o f the -entire loan outstanding, but not any part, will be redeemable at 108 per cent and accrued interest at the option of the Government after May 1, 1932, on Hiving three months* notice. Principal. Interest, and premium payable in New York City in gold coin of the United States, o f the present standard of weight and fineness, without deduction f o r any Czechoslovak taxes or duties, present or future, and payable in time o f w a r ns well as In time o f peace, and whether the holders of the bonds be subjects of a friendly or hostile state. The bonds of series B are to be redeemable by means of a separate annual cumulative sinking fund of 1 per cent to commence October 1, 1924; to be -applied semiannually to the purchase of bonds under par, or to drawings at par should the bonds be unobtainable under par, the first redemption by lot taking place April 1, 1925. AH bonds not previously retired by the sinking fund will be payable October 1, 1952. The authorized Isaue of $50,000,000, o r £10,000,000, is secured by a first specific charge on the receipts f r o m the customs duties and on the net profits Of the tobacco monojwly, which together in 1922 yielded Kr. 1,824,795,188, in 1923 Kr. 1,804,880,249 ( a t the rate of 2.1) cents equivalent to $54,081,527), and in 1924 are estimated to yield Kr. 1,543,036,768 ( a t 2.9 cents equivalent to $44.765,446) or ten times the annual requirements f o r interest and sinking f u n d of the entire loan. The Czechoslovak Republic has undertaken to pay weekly, f o r remittance to Messrs. Baring Bros. & Co. ( L t d . ) , London, at least one fifty-second part of the total annual requirements f o r the service of interest and sinking funds o f the loan. Messrs* Baring Bros. & Co. ( L t d . ) are to m n i t to N e w York a proportionate part o f these weekly payments applicable to the dollar bonds. All drawn bonds and matured coupons shall be accepted by the Czechoslovak Government-at-their full f a c e value a t the then current rate of exchange in payment of customs duties. .SALE OF.,EOKEIQN BONDS Oil SECUBITTIES It i s to b e p r o v i d e d in, a " general bond," w h i c h is to b e deposited with Messrs.' B a r i n g Bros.. & Co. ( L t d . ) , f o r the bonds of series B , that, if at any t i m e it m a y be necessary.or. expedient to obtain the sanction of the bondholders in respect to any '.matter.'in connection with the r i g h t s o f the h o l d e r s of the b o n d s o f his loan," they m a y , by publication. in 2. L o n d o n , 2 Now. Y o r k , aiul 2 A m s t e r d a m newspapers, convene a general meeting o f the bondholders, to he .held in t h e c i t y o f London, upon 30 days' notice, aiul the decision o f the holders o f a m a j o r i t y in nominal value o f b o n d s present at the meeting, either hi person o r represented b y p r o x y , shall b e binding upon all bondholders, but such majority m u s t b e comprised of not less than 50 ,per cent o f tlie sterling b o n d s and not less than 50 per cent of the dollar bonds .of the first portion o f the loan, outstanding, and a ISO; o f n o t l e s s than 50 per cent o f the sterling b o n d s and not ' l e s s than 50 per cent of the dollar bonds of series B outstanding. T h e above h a s been taken f r o m tlie loan contract f r o m the accompanying letter f r o m D o c t o r Pospisil and Mr. Augustine Novak, financial delegates of the 'Republic of.Czechoslovakia, to-which letter reference is 'made.'for f u r t h e r information. A s all .documents .have been received by, cable the w i t h i n is subject ' to correction. . ' . T h e undersigned w i l l ' r e c e i v e subscriptions f o r t h e ' a b o v e b o n d s , . s u b j e c t to allotment, at 9 0 % per cent and accrued interest-to date o f delivery, to yield 1 ! about 8.30.per c e n t to maturity: .. Application will be made to list, these bonds on the N e w Y o r k Stock Exchange. T h e undersigned reserve the right to close the subscription a t any time w i t h o u t notice, to reject any application, to allot a smaller a m o u n t than applied f o r and to make allotments in their uncontrolled discretion. Tin? above bonds are offered if. when, and a s issued and received by the undersigned and subject to t h e completion of their purchases and approval o f their counsel. Interim receipts will b e delivered against p a y m e n t in New Y o r k f u n d s f o r bonds allotted pending the receipt o f the engraved bonds. K U H N , LOKB & C o , T H E NATIONAL CITY COMPANY. KIDDER, PEABODY k C o . MAY 19," 1024. PRAGUE, May. M e s s r s . KUJINY LOEB & CO., KIDDER. PEARODY & Co.. and THE NATIONAL CITY Co., New York UK WW- City. DKAR SIRS : W i t h reference to the proposed Issue of £2,050,000 a m i $9,230,000 bonds o f the Czechoslovak state loan o f 1922, being the second a n d last portion o f the authorized total o f £10,000,000 o r $50,000,000 secured by a first specific charge on the receipts f r o m the customs duties and o u t h e net profits f r o m the tobacco monopoly, the Czechoslovak Government begs t o submit the f o l l o w i n g items concerning the f i n a n c i a l s i t u a t i o n of the Czechoslovak Republic. T h e customs receipts and the net profits f r o m tlie tobacco monopoly have been a s f o l l o w s iii Czechoslovak c r o w n s : 1922 Customs-L Tobacco-—^- —__—: Total—1 -- —— — • — Kronen 1UT. 193,301 877,001, S87 JI — T — 1,824.795,1SS 1 ! 1923 f T! Customs — — L784.8GS. 7S4 T o b a c c o — - - — — — ^ - — : — , — - J — _ — - — 1 , 0 8 0 , 0 1 1 . 4 6 5 Total i- i i i M : — i - — 1 1 , 864, 8S0.249 * Equivalent, at 2.9 cents, to $54,081,527. Customs— Tobacco .( ; : ~ Total 1924: — - '» Equivalent, at 2.9 cents, to $44,705,466. — — 5 4 2 , S)l>5,000 1,000.071,10S 543,636,768 SAI.K OK FOI5E1GX BONUS OU SKCU1UT1ES 217- The State bbdjrets show the following figures In Czechoslovak crowns •i't <J, Kroni'Q 1922 1 7 , 7 3 3 . 034, 982 Kevouue—-—.. 18, G<>3,898,2GG Expenditure^-J192:5 Revenue Expenditure— - — s Revenue-i Expenditure All 1924 figures e s t i m a t e d . - 1024 - — 1 0 15,040.205,008 10,540.043.227 T , 391.293,591 1G, 9 9 3 , 9 7 0 , 9 0 5 Tills is i n a d d i t i o n t o a b u d g e t a m o u n t i n g f o r 19^4 to 2529,230,000 k r o n e n l o r capital expenditures, m a i n l y o n r a i l r o a d s , p o s t , a n d t e l e g r a p h services. T h e proceeds of the l o a n w i l l be a p p l i e d to e s s e n t i a l w o r k s o f p u b l i c r e c o n s t r u c t i o n and development, r a i l w a y s , c a n a l s , a n d s i m i l a r p u r p o s e s , a n d to t h e r e p a y m e n t , of temporary a d v a n c e s in c o n n e c t i o n t h e r e w i t h . . W e beg to state that t h e C z e c h o s l o v a k R e p u b l i c w a s o r i g i n a l l y recognizedby the treaties o f V e r s a i l l e s St. G e r m a i n , a n d T r i a n o n , w h i c h It s i g n e d a s o n e of the Allied and A s s o c i a t e d P o w e r s . T h e . R e p u b l i c e m b r a c e s a t e r r i t o r y , o f 140,000 square k i l o m e t e r s . I t s a r e a Ls t h e r e f o r e n e a r l y a s l a r g e a s t h a t o f , England and W a l e s , a n d i n c l u d e s a b o u t 7 5 p e r c e n t o f the p r i n c i p a l Industrial) centers of the f o r m e r Austro* H u n g a r i a n E m p i r e . T h e p o p u l a t i o n o f C z e c h o slovakia is 13.500,000. T h e n a t i o n a l debt, i n c l u d i n g t h e p r e s e n t issue, Will n o t exceed $77 i>cr head o f p o p u l a t i o n , c a l c u l a t i n g t h e e x c h a n g e a t 2.90 cents. The Czechoslovak S t a t e o w n s 13.302 k i l o m e t e r s o f r a i l r o a d s a n d 127,257 k i l o - , meters o f telegraph l i n e s a n d 273.391 k i l o m e t e r s o f telephone lines, w h i c h a r e operated at a profit. T h e g r o s s receipts o f t h e . r a i l w a y s a n d . telegraphs a r e included in the a b o v e b u d g e t figures,. The currency o f C z e c h o s l o v a k i a Is t h e C z e c h o s l o v a k c r o w n , issued i n t h e form of notes by t h e b a n k i n g office, w h i c h i s specifically p r o h i b i t e d b y l a w from making a d v a n c e s o f a n y k i n d , d i r e c t l y o r i n d i r e c t l y , t o t h e G o v e r n m e n t . A s a result o f this p o l i c y C z e c h o s l o v a k i a has b e e n r e m a r k a b l y s u c c e s s f u l i n maintaining a g r e a t m e a s u r e o f s t a b i l i t y In i t s c u r r e n c y . I n p r o o f o f t h i s it may be mentioned t h a t t h e . r a t e o f e x c h a n g e o f t h e C z e c h o s l o v a k c r o w n lias improved f r o m 2 c e n t s a t the t i m e o f t h e Issue o f t h e first p o r t i o n o f t h i s l o a n to over 2.90 cents a t p r e s e n t , a t . w h i c h a p p r o x i m a t e l e v e l i t h a s remained stable f o r o n e and o n e - h a l f y e a r s . T h e a m o u n t o f t h e b a n k n o t e s in c i r c u l a tion oh J a n u a r y 1, 1921, w a s 11,2SS,000,000 C z e c h o s l o v a k c r o w n s , a n d this o m o u n t has n o w been r e d u c e d t o 8 f 19S,000,000 C z e c h o s l o v a k c r o w n s . T h e Government h a s a l s o b e e n s u c c e s s f u l in a c h i e v i n g a p r a c t i c a l b a l a n c e in its ordinary b u d g e t s . T h e s p e c i a l b u d g e t r e f e r r e d t o a b o v e r e p r e s e n t s o n l y capital expenditures, m a i n l y o n t h e p r o d u c t i v e s e r v i c e s o w n e d b y t h e S t a t e . u The Czechoslovak R e p u b l i c c o n s t i t u t e s a n a t u r a l e c o n o m i c unit, e n t i r e l y capable o f m a i n t a i n i n g a w e l l - b a l a n c e d e c o n o m i c e x i s t e n c e . T h i s Is e v i d e n c e d by the soundness at i t s t r a d e p o s i t i o n a s H l u s t r a t e d b y t h e f o r e i g n t r a d e figures, which f o r t h e last f o u r y e a r s w e r e a s f o l l o w s : Foreign trade tin miiikxu of Csecbotlovak crowns) Year 1820 * • ?. * 1823 Exports Imports Favorable balance Rron&n Kronen 27, M 27,311 IS, 0*5 12,519 22,433 22,384 12.695 130 Kronan A13$ 3,827 5,390 218 SALE'••OF FOREIGN BONDS ?OR SECURITIES The decrease in the figures of the foreign trade in the years 1922 and 1923 in comparison with those of the years 1920 and 1921 is due to the improvement of the rate of exchange of the Czechoslovak crown. Yours very truly, POSPISIL, NOVAK, Financial Delegates of the Republic of Czechoslovakia. TWENTY-FIVE MILLION DOLLARS—THE; CZECHOSLOVAK REPUBLIC—SCOURED EXTERNAL SINKING FUND GOLD LOAN OF 1925, SERIES A 20*YEAR 7 % PER CENT BONDS Secured by a first specific charge on revenues from excise duties on sugar and alcohol,, and by a specific charge on customs duties and net profits of the tobacco monopoly, junior only to the charge created in favor of the 8 per cent secured external loan of 1922, now outstanding. Part of an issue of $50,000,000 duly authorized under laws, of the Czechoslovak Republic (LavsNo. 245 of December 14, 1923, Law No. 278 of December 12, 1924, and Law No. 110 of March 31, 1922). Dated October 1,1925; due October 1,1945. Redeemable in whole or in part, at the option of the Government, or through, the operation o f the sinking fund, on any interest date at 105. The bonds outstanding at .maturity will be paid at 105 per. cent of the principal amount thereof. Interest payable April 1 and October 1. Coupon bearer bonds in denominations, of $1,000. and $500, registrable as to principal only. Principal, interest, and premium payable in New Y o r k City, at head office of the National City Bank of New York, fiscal agent, in gold coin of the United States of America of the present standard o f weight and fineness, without deduction f o r any Czechoslovak taxes or duties present or future, and payable in time o f war as well as in time of peace, whether the holders of the bonds be subjects o f a friendly or, hostile state. Principal; interest, and premium also collectible at the option of the holders, at the city oifice of Uie National City Bank of New' York, in London;.England, in pounds sterling, or at the office of Messrs. Hope & Co., Amsterdam,;Netherlands, in guilders, in. each ease at the then current, buying; rate of jstich office f o r sight exchange on New York City, N. Y. Sinking fund, starting immediately, sufficient to pay or redeem entire issue, in substantially. equal semiannual installments^ either by purchase in thp market, if obtaiable at or below 105 and;interest,'or,' if not,so obtainable, by redemption by lot at 105. Drawn o r matured bonds will be'accepted by the Czechoslovak Government at 105 per cent; of their principal amount, and matured coupons at their f a c e value, i n ; each pase; at the current, rate of exchange, in payment of customs duties/ '' 1: The following summary is based upon the accompanying letter of the Prime Minister, and the Minister of Finance, of the Czechoslovak Republic : The Czechoslovak Republic received international recognition by the Treaties, o f Yersailles, St. Germain, and Trianon, which it signed as one of the allied and associated powers. Its revenues, therefore, are not subject to control by the reparations commission and it has the unqualified and sovereign right to1 pledge them f o r the service of the loan of which this issue is a part. Tlie loan will be secured by first lien upon the sugar and alcohol t^xes, and by a second lien upon its customs duties and the net profits of the tobacco monopoly, junior only to the specific charge created in favor of the holders of the bonds of the Czechoslovak state loan of 1922, now outstanding, the interest and cumulative sinking fund requirements of which amount to approximately $4,436,000 per annum. Upon repayment of the loan of 1922, the Czechoslovak Republic will have the right to secure a new loan, not t o exceed $50,000,000' in aggregate principal amount, with a lien upon the customs duties and the net profits o f - t h e tobacco monopoly, ranking equally and ratably with the lien' created in f a v o r o f this loan. The pledged revenues constitute f o u r of the most regular and productive items of income of the Czechoslovak GovernmentTheir respective annual yields over the past three years were as f o l l o w s : SALE OF FOHEIGX Sugar tat 1922 1923 1024... ... 219 B O N D S Oil SKCUllITIES Aloobol Us a, SSL 540 *iaSU,6S3 4.99&&06 11,1ST, 816 090,425 11,78X97* Customs Net profits tobacco monopoly $22,890,382 23,102,873 25,797,411 $21,078,732 31.408,864 31,134,056 Total 70,784,859 73,809,772 Converted on basis of yearly average* of monthly exchange quotations published by the Federal Reserve Board. The combined r e v e n u e s o f t h e s u g a r t u x nnd the a l c o h o l t u x a m o u n t e d t o $16,877,405 d u r i n g 1024, a s c o m p a r e d w i t h $3,750,000, m a x i m u m interest c h a r g e s , at 7V& per cent, upon t h e total a u t h o r i z e d a m o u n t o f t h e loan, a n d , w i t h t h e customs duties a n d net p r o f i t s o f the t o b a c c o m o n o p o l y , y i e l d e d $73,809,772, as compared with $10,818,000, t h e total o f m a x i m u m interest a n d s i n k i n g - f u n d charges both on the 8 per c e n t s e c u r e d e x t e r n a l loan o f 1922 a n d o n t h e total authorlbed a m o u n t o f t h e l o a n o f 1925 ( a s s u m i n g s i n k i n g f u n d r e q u i r e m e n t s on the unissued b a l a n c e i d e n t i c a l w i t h the present issue o f s e r i e s A b o n d s ) . The proceeds o f the present Issue w i l l b e applied p r i n c i p a l l y t o t h e f u n d i n g of Government short-term i n d e b t e d n e s s p u r s u a n t t o a p r o g r a m designed t o add materially to t h e financial s t a b i l i t y o f the G o v e r n m e n t a n d t o strengthen the national c r e d i t a t h o m e a n d a b r o a d . O t h e r o b j e c t i v e s o f t h i s prograkn have already been a c h i e v e d , i n c l u d i n g t h e b a l a n c i n g o f the b u d g e t a n d t b e stabilization o f the c u r r e n c y . Application w i l l b e m a d e t o list t h e s e b o n d s o n t h e N e w Y o r k S t o c k Ex* change. W e offer these b o n d s f o r s u b s c r i p t i o n , s u b j e c t to* a l l o t m e n t . I t as, a n d w h e n issued and received b y us, s u b j e c t t o a p p r o v a l b y o u r c o u n s e l o f alt legal p r o ceedings in connection t h e r e w i t h . S u b s c r i p t i o n b o o k s w i l l b e o p e n e d a t the office of the National C i t y Co., 55 W a l l S t r e e t , N e w Y o r k C i t y , a t 10 o ' c l o c k , a. m., Tuesday, O c t o b e r 27, 1925, a n d w i l l b e c l o s e d In o u r d i s c r e t i o n . I t Is expected that d e l i v e r y o f i n t e r i m c e r t i f i c a t e s will b e m a d e on o r a b o u t N o v e m ber 16, 1925. O f the p r e s e n t issue, $3,500,000 has been taken b y Messrs. H o p e & Co. f o r offering in t h e A m s t e r d a m m a r k e t . Price 96 and interest, to y i e l d o v e r 8 p e r c e n t . KUHN, LOSS & Co. THE NATIONAL CITY Co. KIDDKB, PEABODY & Co. LEE, HIGGIKSON & Co. MARSHALL FIELD, GLOBE, WASD & Co. The f o l l o w i n g letter h a s b e e n r e c e i v e d f r o m the P r i m e M i n i s t e r a n d Minister of F i n a n c e o f t h e C z e c h o s l o v a k R e p u b l i c , the THE CZECHOSLOVAK REPUBLIC, Prague, October 211 1025. GENTLEMEN: In c o n n e c t i o n w i t h y o u r p u r c h a s e o f $25,000,000, t h e C z e c h o slovak Republic s e c u r e d e x t e r n a l s i n k i n g f u n d g o l d l o a n o f 1925, s e r i e s A , 20-year 7 % per c e n t b o u d s , d u l y a u t h o r i z e d u n d e r t h e l a w s o f t h e C z e c h o s l o v a k Republic ( L a w N o , 2 4 5 o f D e c e m b e r 14, 1923, L a w No. 2 7 8 o f D e c e m b e r 12, 1924, and L a w N o . 110 o f M a r c h 31, 1 9 2 2 ) , a n d In a n s w e r t o y o u r s p e c i f i c questions regarding t h e financial s i t u a t i o n a n d e c o n o m i c c o n d i t i o n s in C z e c h o slovakia, I take p l e a s u r e in giving; y o u t h e f o l l o w i n g s u m m a r y i n f o r m a t i o n ; The Czechoslovak R e p u b l i c r e c e i v e d i n t e r n a t i o n a l r e c o g n i t i o n b y t h e t r e a t i e s of Versailles, S t G e r m a i n , a n d T r i a n o n , w h i c h it s i g n e d a s o n e o f t h e allied and. associated p o w e r s . I t s r e v e n u e s , t h e r e f o r e , a r e not s u b j e c t t o control b y the reparations c o m m i s s i o n a n d it h a s tlie unqualified a n d s o v e r e i g n r i g h t t o pledge them f o r t h e s e r v i c e o f t h e l o a n o f w h i c h t h i s i s s u e Is a p a r t pimrosE or ISSUE The proceeds o f t h e p r e s e n t i s s u e w i l l b e a p p l i e d p r i n c i p a l l y t o t h e f u n d i n g o f short-term indebtedness p u r s u a n t t o a p r o g r a m d e s i g n e d t o a d d m a t e r i a l l y t o 220 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, the financial stability o f tlie Government and to strengthen the national credit at home and a b r o a d . Other objectives o f this p r o g r a m h a v e already been achieved, including the balancing of the b u d g e t and the stabilization of the c u r r e n c y . T h e short-term debt, which reached its m a x i m u m a t the end of 1923, w a s r e d u c e d .during-the y e a r 1924 by about 16 per .cent. Tn pursuit of its; p r o g r a m the' Government h a s determined to • effect• f u r t h e r • consolidation andj r e d u c t i o n ! o f the" floating debt through the medium o f long-term internal credit' operations. PLEDGED ItEVENUES , , T h e . l o a n , o f . w h i c h the present issue of series A , b o n d s f o r m s a part, is authorized f o r . ' a ' t o t a l amount limited to $50,000,000, or its equivalent in-other, currencies, and w i l l ' b e secured b y a specific,lien or charge upon the revenues of' t h e Republic arising f r o m ' e x c i s e t a x e s . ' n d w ' o r ' h e r e a f t e r levied upon sugar and, alcohol, w h i c h l i e n , o r c h a r g e shall,be..superior.to any and every .other lien or. charge n o w .exisfciug.or hereafter created, and, b y a specific lien or charge upon tlie customs . d u t i e s ' o f - t h e . Republic and upon the net profits of the tobacco monopoly,, which iieii or charge.,shall.be j u n i o r only to the specific c h a r g e created,' Jh. f a v o r of tlie holders of the bonds pf, the Czechoslovak State loan o f 1922, now outstanding, tlie interest and. cumulative sinking f u n d requirements of which, amount to approximately. .$4,436,Q00 per annum. Upon r e p a y m e n t o f the loan o f . 1922 the Czechoslovak Republic will have the r i g h t ' t o secure a n e w loan, riot: to exceed .$50,000,000 in aggregate principal amount, with a lien upon, its customs duties and the net profits of the toliacco m o n o p o l y r a n k i n g equally and ratably with the lien created in. f a v o r of this.loan. T h e pledged revenues constitute f o u r of the most regular and productive items o f i n c o m e o f the Czccho-, slovalc Government, a s r evidenced, by ,their respective annual y i e l d s over the p a s t three years,, as f o l l o w s : 1 Sugar' tax. Year 1022 1923 1924 :- ; - i—.— Alcohol • Customs Net profits, ' tobacco tax.' monoi>oly Total i •' 33,881,840 $10,543,883 $22,890,382 $21,078,732 $58,39-1, S37 4,995,306 11,187,816 23,192,873 31,403, S&t .70,734,850 [5,096,426 11,780,979 25,797,411 31,134,956 73,809,772 T h e sugar t a x and the alcohol tux during tlie past three y e a r s h a v e together yielded an-average, return of approximately $15,828,750. Tlie c u s t o m s receipts and the net profits f r o m the tobacco monopoly over the same period have averaged approximately $51,834,406. The. revenues specifically pledged, on the basis o f the past three years, and a f t e r making due a l l o w a n c e f r o m the receipts of the customs duties and the net profits of tlie tobacco m o n o p o l y f o r the requirements of the 8 per cent secured . external loan o f 1922, w o u l d l e a v e available f o r the service of the loan $63,227,156 per annum, o r over nineteen times the m a x i m u m interest and sinking f u n d charges on the present issue of Series A bonds, which w i l l roach a m a x i m u m during the first y e a r ( n o t e x c e e d i n g $3,191,0 0 0 ) , a f t e r w h i c h t h e interest charges f o r the series w i l l d e c r e a s e materially, y e a r b y year, through the action o f the sinking f u n d . T h e 8 p e r cent secured external sinking f u n d gold loan o f 1922; authorizedf o r a total a m o u n t o f $50,000,000, w a s offered simultaneously in N e w York,; L o n d o n , and Amsterdam, $30,500,000 in 1922 and the b a l a n c e i n 1924, and is n o w outstanding, approximately, a s f o l l o w s : $23,250,000 in t h e United States, $23,250,000 in Great Britain, ami $3,500,000 in H o l l a n d . P l e d g e d revenues duri n g t h e l a s t three y e a r s h a v e been equivalent to m o r e than eleven a n d one-half times interest and sinking f u n d requirements: ' '•< 1 Converted on basis of yearly 'averages of monthly exchange quotations published by 1 the Federal Reserve Board. • f- " - •- SAI-E OF FOIIKIGX 1JOXDS OB SECURITIES 221 Tlie totnl actual debt o f t h e r e p u b l i c , officially c o m p u t e d a s o f a p p r o x i m a t e l y July 31, 1925, w a s k c . 30,540,724.334.10. m a d e u p a s f o l l o w s : Kc. Consolidated debt 16,045,402,152.50 Short-term debt 0,242,794.000.00 Foreign c r e d i t * — 4,478, 408.181.60 Bank loans 515,000,000.00 Debts in pursuance o f the treatie> 3 , 2 5 9 , (XK), 0 0 0 . 0 0 Total o f all p u b l i c d e b t s 3 0 , 5 1 0 , 7 2 4 , ,334.10 Tills total, equivalent to SSR5,GS1,000, r e p r e s e n t s a p e r capita debt o f $05.06 (1921 c e n s u s ) , and includes C z e c h o s l o v a k i a ' * i n d e b t e d n e s s to t h e V n i t e d States Government, the prluciiuil a m o u n t o f w h i c h h a s I wen fixed by m u t u a l a g r e e m e n t at $115,000,000, as o f J u n e 15, 1925. T h e United States Government has accorded Czechoslovakia t e r m s o f p a y m e n t generally s i m i l a r to t h o s e g r a n t e d the British G o v e r n m e n t , w i t h r e t r a i n a l l e v i a t i o n s in t h e s c h e d u l e o f c a s h p a y ments during the e a r l i e r y e a r s w h i c h w i l l protect C z e c h o s l o v a k i a f r o m undue financial hardships. A s r e g a r d s the d e b t s in p u r s u a n c e o f the t r e a t i e s r e f e r r e d to above, there remain unsettled o n l y l i a b i l i t i e s c o n c e r n i n g p r o p e r t i e s taken o v e r from f o r m e r A u s t r i a - H u n g a r y a n d an e v e n t u a l " l i b e r a t i o n * ' Indemnity. The government, however., is c o n v i n c e d that these q u e s t i o n s w i l l b e settled in a manner f a v o r a b l e t o C z e c h o s l o v a k i a . Of tho al»ove c o n s o l i d a t e d d e b t , a m o u n t i n g t o a p p r o x i m a t e l y $405,318,400, some $14(1.000.000 represents pre*war d e b t o f t h e f o r m e r A u s t r o - H u n g a r i a n Empire definitely assumed b y C z e c h o s l o v a k i a , w h i l e a b o u t $299,000,000 represents capital ex]>enditures o f the g o v e r n m e n t d u r i n g the period 1919-1925, devoted to railroads, telegraphs, telephones, b r i d g e s , r o a d s , p u b l i c buildings, etc. RKVENITKS AXt) KXPENPITrKKS Since 1922 there h a s l*een n constant r e d u c t i o n in e x p e n d i t u r e s , a n d d u r i n g 1924, especially, r e m a r k a b l e p r o g r e s s h a s been m a d e in a t t a i n i n g a b a l a n c e d budget. T h e accounts f o r 1924 s h o w t h a t o r d i n a r y revenues e x c e e d e d o r d i n a r y expenses by a surplus, applied m o s t l y t o t h e r e d u c t i o n o f g o v e r n m e n t short-term debt. Budget estimates f o r 11*25 i n d i c a t e a s u r p l u s o f o r d i u a r y revenues. In 1924 th* net; yield o f t h o m a i n Items o f t a x a t i o n a m o u n t e d to $243,888,021, as compared with budget e s t i m a t e s o f $221,055,804, and a c t u a l r e t u r n s f o r 1923 of $220,820,600. A c t u a l r e t u r n s f r o m t h e s e s o u r c e s , t h e r e f o r e , e x c e e d e d b u d g e t estimates b y 10 p e r c e n t a n d t h e y i e l d o f t h e p r e v i o u s y e a r b y 7 % i>cr c e n t , reflecting both t h e h e a l t h y c o n d i t i o n o f t h e r e v e n u e s a n d t h e c o n s e r v a t i v e b a s i s on which budget e s t i m a t e s a r e c o m p u t e d . T h e g o v e r n m e n t Is m a k i n g e v e r y effort t o reduce total e x p e n d i t u r e , ©specially b y t h e r e d u c t i o n o f personnel, s o that the proposed relief in t h e m a t t e r o f t h e p r e s e n t h e a v y d i r e c t t a x a t i o n m a y be realized. O n t h e o t h e r h a n d , a p r o p o s e d i n c r e a s e i n the s u g a r t a x i s estimated to yield a b o u t $9,500,000 a d d i t i o n a l r e v e n u e a n n u a l l y . CTTRRENCT The currency Of C z e c h o s l o v a k i a i s t h e C z e c h o s l o v a k c r o w n , issued in t h e form o f notes b y the b a n k i n g office o f t h e m i n i s t r y o f finance, w h i c h i s specifically prohibited b y l a w f r o m m a k i n g a d v a n c e s o f a n y k i n d , d i r e c t l y o r i n d i rectly, to the g o v e r n m e n t . A s a result o f t h i s p o l i c y C z e c h o s l o v a k i a h a s b e e n remarkably successful in m a i n t a i n i n g a g r e a t m e a s u r e o f s t a b i l i t y In i t s c u r rency. T h e r a t e o f e x c h a n g e h a s i m p r o v e d f r o m a r o u n d 2 c e n t s a t t h e t i m e o f the issue o f the first p o r t i o n o f t h e 8 p e r c c n t s e c u r e d e x t e r n a l l o a n o f 1922 t o over 2.90 c e n t s a t present, a t w h i c h a p p r o x i m a t e level It h a s r e m a i n e d s t a b l e f o r the past 3 y e a r s . T h e a m o u n t o f S t a t e n o t e s i n c i r c u l a t i o n o n J a n u a r y 1,1921, w a s K c . 11.288,000.000, a s a g a i n s t K c . 7,095,077,000 o n A u g u s t 3 1 , 1 9 2 5 . Beginning w i t h 1926, a n o t h e r s t e p in a d v a n c e w i l l b e t a k e n b y t h e c r e a t i o n , upon the basis o f l a w s aiwsady p a s s e d , o f a n e w c e n t r a l b a n k o f issue, w h i c h will take o v e r the f u n c t i o n s o f t h e b a n k i n g office o f t h e m i n i s t r y o f finance, and will b e k n o w n a s the C z e c h o s l o v a k N a t i o n a l B a n k . T h i s b a n k w i l l b e charged w i t h t h e legal d u t y o f m a i n t a i n i n g t h e v a l u e o f t h e C z e c h o s l o v a k crown at the level a t w h i c h It h a s b e e n s t a b i l i z e d a n d w i t h i n c e r t a i n m a x i m u m 92928—31—fTl 15 222 SAXJE OF. FOREIGN BONDS' OR SECURITIES a n a m i n i m u m relations t o the United States dollar. T h i s b a n k w i l l be independent in its management and privately controlled. I t will h a v e the sole r i g h t of note issue. AREA AMD POPULATION T l i e Czechoslovak R e p u b l i c comprises the territories o f the ancient Kingdom o f B o h e m i a ( B o h e m i a , Moravia, and a p a r t o f Silesia) and the Slovak and Ruthenian p o r t i o n s of f o r m e r Hungary. Czechoslovakia lies almost exactly in the center o f E u r o p e in the f o r m of a z o n e some 000 miles in length, with a m a x i m u m width o f 175 miles. I t h a s a total area of 54.S77 square miles and a population o f 13,613,172, tenth among the countries o f E u r o p e . Prague, the capital city, has a population of 676,657 ( 1 9 2 1 ) , and there a r e s o m e 25 smaller cities w i t h populations ranging f r o m 200,(XX) to 20,000. Czechoslovakia in area, population, a n d density of population is practically identical w i t h t h e combined a r e a s and populations o f the States o f N e w Y o r k a n d N e w J e r s e y . About 40 p e r cent of the population are engaged in agriculture, 34 per c e n t i n the manuf a c t u r i n g industries, and 11 per cent in trade. NATURAL RESOUIICES Czechoslovakia comprises territories w h i c h are relatively r i c h in natural resources e x c e p t f o r certain r a w materials. T h e s e resources together with a t h r i f t y and industrious population are the elements w h i c h f o r m t h e basis of Czechoslovakia's well-balanced agricultural and industrial development. Of the total area, 42 per cent is arable land, 19 p e r cent m e a d o w s a n d pastures, and 33 per cent forests. Agriculture is h i g h l y developed a n d intensive farming is practiced. T h e intensity of the agricultural production is due t o the fertility o f the soil, the f a v o r a b l e climate, the application o f m o d e r n f a r m i n g methods, and, further, to a highly developed system o f agricultural education, and to a carefully constructed network of cooperative societies f o r the purpose o i affording credit t o production, purchase and sale, and the p r o v i d i n g o f agricultural machinery. T h e characteristic f e a t u r e of Czechoslovak agriculture is the cultivation o f crops which yield greater profits than cereals, n a m e l y , those which f o r m a basis f o r important agricultural industries, such a s the sugar beet, barley f o r malting, chicory roots, etc., and other products w h i c h c a n be profit* ably exported, such as hops, seeds and seed grain, fruits, and vegetables. For this reason a p a r t o f the national requirements o f cereals a n d f o d d e r must be imported. I t is estimated t h a t the f o r e s t areas in Czechoslovakia a r e c a p a b l e of producing annually over 4,000,000,000 board f e e t o f m a r k e t a b l e timber. Exports o f timber and w o o d w a r e h a v e amounted to approximately $39,266,000 in 1922, $34,684,000 in 1923, and $36,772,000 in 1924. Czechoslovakia has deposits of both h a r d coal a n d lignite, the output of w h i c h is sufficient to meet h o m e requirements and l e a v e substantial amounts f o r export. T h e m a i n deposits o f hard coal a r e situated i n the g r e a t Silesian c o a l basin, o f w h i c h Czechoslovakia includes about 273 square miles. Total production f o r 1924 amounted t o 35,000,000 m e t r i c tons (14,500,000 tons of h a r d coal a n d 20,500,000 tons o f l i g n i t e ) , m a r k i n g an Increase o f 25 per cent a s c o m p a r e d w i t h the output o f the previous year. O f the 1924 production 12 p e r cent w a s exported. A m o n g other i m p o r t a n t m i n e r a l resources a r e kaolin ( p o r c e l a i n c l a y ) , graphite, and magnesite, w h i c h are. e x p o r t e d i n substantial quantities. INDUSTRIES Czechoslovakia includes a b o u t , 75 per cent of the principal industries of tlie f o r m e r A u s t r o - H u n g a r i a n Empire. P r o d u c t i o n o f r a w sugar in the season 1924-25 a m o u n t s to 1,450,000 tons ( e s t i m a t e d ) , a s c o m p a r e d w i t h 1,002,216 t o n s i n 1923-24. D u r i n g 1924, 733,193 tons of sugar w e r e e x p o r t e d , representing a v a l u e o f a b o u t $70,470,000. ' B y the end o f July, 1925, e x p o r t s o f sugar f o r t h e current season exceeded 500,000 tons, o f a v a l u e o f a b o u t $40,600,000. Of importance, too, a r e the efficient malting, brewing, and distilling industries, the p r o d u c t s o f w h i c h a r e k n o w n the w o r l d o v e r . T h e t e x t i l e i n d u s t r y employs a b o u t 200,000 w o r k m e n . Cotton and w o o l a r e i m p o r t e d in l a r g e quantities a n d a r e w o r k e d u p b y s o m e 4,600,000 spindles a n d 150,000 mechanical looms, besides s o m e 30,000 h a n d l o o m s ; flax is w o r k e d u p b y 285,000 spindles .and 28,000 l o o m s ; h e m p b y 12,000 spindles a n d j u t e b y 36,000 spindles a n d over XA metric ton equals 2,204 pounds, and subsequent references are to metric tons. SALE OF FOHEIGX B O N D S Oil SKCUllITIES 223 2,000 looms, w h i l e t h e silk i n d u s t r y h a s o v e r 14,000 looms. T o t a l exinirrs of textile manufactures, i n c l u d i n g c l o t h i n g , m i l l i n e r y , e m b r o i d e r i e s , laces, trimmings, etc., s h o w a v a l u e in e x c e s s o f t o t a l i m p o r t s o f r a w a n d semimanufactured textile m a t e r i a l s . The country h a s a n a n c i e n t a n d well-develoj>ed Iron a n d steel industry, a large part of the annual p r o d u c t i o n b e i n g e x p o r t e d In t b c shape o f m a n u f a c tures. T h e engineering i n d u s t r i e s e m p l o y a b o u t 150,000 w o r k m e n , a l a r g e number being e m p l o y e d in t h e l i r o d u c t l o n o f a g r i c u l t u r a l implements. The manufacture o f m a c h i n e r y , e s p e c i a l l y o f l o c o m o t i v e s , passenger a n d f r e i g h t cars, and o f sugar-rciining m a c h i n e r y , in w h i c h C z e c h o s l o v a k e n g i n e e r s e x c e l , is equally Important. In 1024 t h e e x p o r t s o f iron, steel, n o n f e r r o u s metals, and manufactures thereof a n d m a c h i n e r y a m o u n t e d to a b o u t $31,000,000. Bohemia has long been k n o w n f o r its g l a s s w a r e , a n d in recent y e a r s the glass and porcelain i n d u s t r i e s h a v e m a d e c o n s i d e r a b l e progress. There are 140 large glass w o r k s . tot-ides s m a l l e r f a c t o r i e s d e v o t e d to s p c c l a l products. Exports o f g l a s s w a r e in 1024 w e r e v a l u e d a t o v e r $35,000,000, representing nearly 8 per cent o f t h e total e x p o r t t r a d e . T b e annual p r o d u c t i o n o f porcelain is estimated a t a v a l u e o f $20,300X00, a n d l a r g e q u a n t i t i e s o f p o r c e l a i n , c h i n a , and pottery a r e e x p o r t e d . T h e t i m b e r r e s o u r c e s m a k e p o s s i b l e a substantial paper industry, t b e a n n u a l o u t p u t o f p a p e r a n d c a r d b o a r d being e s t i m a t e d at 185,000 tons. O t h e r ini[»ortant i n d u s t r i e s a r c t h e m a n u f a c t u r e o f leather a n d of chemical a FOREIGX TEA OK The Czechoslovak R e p u b l i c c o n s t i t u t e s a n a t i o n a l e c o n o m i c unit, c a p a b l e of maintaining a b a l a n c e d e c o n o m i c e x i s t e n c e . T h i s is c x i d e n c e d b y the f a c t that its visible t r a d e h a s show*n in a l l r e c e n t y e a r s a c o n s i d e r a b l e e x c e s s o f exports over imports. fin millions of Kc] Year 1920 1921 1922 | Exports Imports Favorable balance \ . 27,312 18,080 22,433 12,696 Exports Year Imports Favorable balance 12,573 17,022 ]Ct3$7 4,1*5 ! 1923 4,879 ; 1924». 5,390 1025 I 1 10,222 16,862 8,992 2,351 1,160 1,38$ *1024figuresprovisional, 1925figuresforfirst7 months. The decrease In the f i g u r e s o f t h e f o r e i g n t r a d e s i n c e 1022 i s d u e to the improvement o f t h e r a t e o f e x c h a n g e o f t h e C z e c h o s l o v a k c r o w n . Increased imports in 1924 w e r e d u e l a r g e l y t o r a w m a t e r i a l s , e s p e c i a l l y c o t t o n a n d w o o l . Larg6 quantities o f r a w c o t t o n , w h e a t , Hour, a n d b a c o n , m i n e r a l oils, c o p p e r machinery, etc., a r e i m p o r t e d f r o m t h e U n i t e d States. T h e p r i n c i p a l e x p o r t s in 1924 w e r e textiles, s u g a r , g l a s s a n d c h i n a w a r e , t i m b e r , c o a l , i r o n w a r e a n d machinery, malt a n d hops, l e a t h e r g o o d s , a n d c h e m i c a l p r o d u c t s . U p t o the present Czechoslovakia h a s c o n c l u d e d w i t h 2 4 d i f f e r e n t c o u n t r i e s c o m m e r c i a l agreements p r o v i d i n g f o r r e c i p r o c a l m o s t - f a v o r e d - n a t i o n t r e a t m e n t Besides tariff treaties h a v e been c o n c l u d e d w i t h A u s t r i a , Italy, F r a n c e , P o l a n d , a n d Spain, and mark a serious e f f o r t t o w a r d a s o u n d d e v e l o p m e n t o f i n t e r n a t i o n a l trade, especially in c e n t r a l E u r o p e . The Czechoslovak jjeople d u r i n g t h e s e v e n y e a r s o f r e s t o r e d n a t i o n a l i n d e pendence have e x h i b i t e d p o l i t i c a l a n d e c o n o m i c s t a b i l i t y o f a h i g h o r d e r . T h e y have fully demonstrated t h e i r a b i l i t y t o g o v e r n t h e m s e l v e s , a n d t h r o u g h t h e trying post-war y e a r s h a v e e x e r t e d a h e l p f u l a n d s t a b i l i z i n g i n f l u e n c e in Europe. Unless o t h e r w i s e s t a t e d , C z e c h o s l o v a k c r o w n s h a v e been c o n v e r t e d i n t o United States d o l l a r s a t t h e r a t e o f 2 . 9 0 c e n t s t o t h e c r o w n . Yours very truly, ANTOtfitf SVEUIJL, Prime Minister of The Czechoslovak Republic, I NO. Minister BOHDAN of Finance of The Czechoslovak BE£KA, Republic. The i n f o r m a t i o n i n this c i r c u l a r h a s b e e n o b t a i n e d , p a r t l y b y c a b l e , f r o m official statements a n d s t a t i s t i c s . W h i l e w e d o n o t g u a r a n t e e it, w e b e l i e v e it to be c o r r e c t 224 SALE'••OF FOREIGN BONDS ?OR SECURITIES $ 7 5 0 0 , 0 0 0 CITY OP GREATER PRAGUE ( CZECHOSLOVAKIA) PEE CENT MOETGAGK LOAN BO^DS OF 1022, D U E M A Y 1 , 1 0 5 2 Total amount of loan, $7,500,000 dollar bonds and £1,500,000 sterling bonds. Authorized by the municipal council, under date of May 12, 1922, under acts of legislature No. 116 of February 6, 1920, and No. 329 of August 12, 1921, and sanctioned by the Minister of Finance under date of May 27, 1922. Coupon bearer bonds in denominations of $1,000 and $500. Not subject to redemption before November 1, 1932, except f o r the sinking fund as stated below. T h e bonds are to have the benefit of a cumulative sinking f u n d calculated to redeem the entire issue by May 1, 1952. This sinking fund will begin in 1923, and i s to operate by purchases of the bonds at or below 100 per cent and interest or by the redemption at 100 per cent and interest of bonds to be drawn by lot. T h e entire issue outstanding, but not any part, will be redeemable at 102 per cent and accrued interest, at the option of the city, on November 1, 1932, or on any interest date thereafter. F o r further information regarding this issue of bonds, reference is made to the accompanying letter from Doctor Baxa, president of. the central administrative commission of Greater Prague. T h e undersigned will receive subscriptions f o r the above bonds, subject to allotment, at 9 2 ^ per cent and accrued interest to date of delivery, at which price the bonds will yield 8.17 per cent if held to maturity. The undersigned reserve the right to close the .subscription at any time without notice, to reject any application, to allot a smaller amount than applied for, and to make allotments in their uncontrolled discretion. The above bonds are offered if, when, and as issued and received by the undersigned aiul subject to the completion of their purchase and approval of their counsel. Interim receipts will be delivered against payment in New York funds f o r bonds allotted pending the receipt of the engraved bonds. NEW YOBK, June 5, 1922. K U H N , LOEB & C o . PBAGUE, May MESSES. K U H N , LOEB & C o . , 22,1922. New York. DEAB SIBS: In reference to the city o f Greater Prague (Czechoslovakia) 7 % per cent mortgage loan of 1922, consisting of $7,500,000 dollar bonds to be issued by you and of £1,500,000 sterling bonds to b e issued in London by Messrs. Helbert, W a g g & Co. ( L t d . ) , I beg to submit the following information: The city of Greater Prague w a s constituted on January 1, 1922, under an act o f legislature dated February 6, 1920, b y inclusion with the older city of 38 suburbs. I t i s the capital as well as the commercial and financial center of the Czechoslovak Republic. I t has a population o f about 676,000. The most important industries o f Czechoslovakia are located in the city and its vicinity. T h e total debt o f the city, not including this loan, amounts to K r . 662,569,895, which, a t the approximate present rate o f exchange o f 2 cents, i s equivalent to $13,250,000. Of the old loans K r . 11,026,000 are specifically secured by mortgages o n real estate. Including the present loan the per capita debt will be approximately $41.50 a t present rates o f exchange. T h e total assets owned by the city have a value o f K r . 297,711,000 gold ($59,500,000). T h e city's total investment in productive enterprises is Kr. 136,468,000, of which K r . 92,179,000 w a s invested at pre-war values, viz, $18,435,000. T h e loan will b e the direct liability and obligation o f the city and will further b e secured b y a first specific mortgage on the electric, gas, and water* w o r k s and tramways owned b y the city in f a v o r o f a trustee f o r the loan to be approved b y the fiscal agents o f the loan. T h e proceeds o f the loan will, f o r the greatest part, be utilized f o r the construction o f a n electric power station, the purchase o r erection o f gas plants, and the extension of the waterworks and o f the tramways throughout the f o r m e r suburbs, all o f which will, b e included in the mortgage, and f o r reimbursing the city f o r previous expenditures effected f o r the same purposes. T h e city undertakes t o credit the gross receipts o f the pledged enterprises t o a special account, out of which t h e r e will, be p a i d fortnightly to. an> approved bank i n Prague, for SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 225 monthly remittance to the fiscal agents o f the loan, o n e twenty-sixth o f the total amount annublly required f o r tlie s e r v i c e o f interest a n d sinking f u n d of the loan. The gross receipts o f the pledged enterprises amounted in 1921 to K r . 285.* 440,000 and are estimated f o r 1022 a t K r . 31$,000,000, which, a t the approximate present rate of exchange, is equivalent t o o v e r $0,000,000, w h i l e t h e service of the loan will require n o t o v e r $1,270,000. A l l d r a w n bonds and matured coupons shall be accepted b y t h e C z e c h o s l o v a k G o v e r n m e n t a t their full f a c e value at the then current r a t e o f e x c h a n g e in p a y m e n t o f c u s t o m s duties, a n d by the city o f P r a g u e lit p a y m e n t o f all municipal taxes. The budgetary estimates o f the city o f G r e a t e r Prague f o r 1022 s h o w revenue and expenditure cach a m o u n t i n g to Kr.574.210,000. T h e exi*enditure o f Old Prague in 1021 was Kr.375,751,000. which w a s f u l l y within it* total income. The value o f Improv<«d real estate within the limits n o w liit'lud<ed in tli*; greater city w a s estimated in 1015 a t Kr.2.000,000,000 practically a t gold value ($400,000,000). The 7J,4 per cent m o r t g a g e loan o f 1022 hns l>een d u l y authorized by tfus municipal council under d a t e o f May 12, 1022, under a c t s o f legislatures No, 110 of February 0. 1020, and No. 329 o f August, 12. 1021, a m i h a s been sanctioned by the Minister nf F i n a n c e under d a t e <»f May 27, 1922. Tlie dollar bonds uf the loan will hi* Issued In couimn-bearer f o r m In denominations of $1,000 iind £500, will tK» dated M » y 1, 1922, w i l l mature o n M a y 1, 1952, and will bear Interest f r o m M a y 1. 1922, payable semiannually ou M a y 1 and November 1 In each y e a r . Prlncl)ml and Interest nud premium In case o f anticipated redemption, will be p a y a b l e In gold coin o f the United States of America, of or equal to the standard o f w e i g h t a n d fineness existing M a y 1, 1922, at the office o f Kuhn. Jy»eb & Co., fisoil agents o f the dollar bonds, in this city of New York, f r e e f r o m all taxes, s t a m p duties, t r a n s f e r and other duties or deductions o f any nature, present o r f u t u r e , whether levied b y the Czechoslovak Government, the c i t y o r other Czechoslovak authorities, and payable in time of war as well a s in time o f peace, and whether the holders o f t h e b o n d s be subjects of a friendly o r hostile State. Beginning with 1923 the loan w i l l be redeemed through a cumulative sinking fund by purchases at o r b e l o w p a r a n d a c c r u e d interest, or, to the extent to which purchases shall not have l»eoii SO eflftvted, by annual d r a w i n g s at par and aqcrued interest, In a m o u n t s sufficient to redeem the whole issue by M a y 1,1952. In case o f drawings, the n u m b e r s o f the bonds t o lie redeemed shall be determined by lot, and notice o f redemption s p e c i f y i n g the numbers o f the bonds designated f o r redemption shall be published t w i c e a w e e k f o r at least three weeks preceding the redemption d a t e in t w o newspapers o f general circulation in the city of New1' Y o r k b y K u h n , L o o b & Co., the fiscal agents o f the dollar bonds. On November 1, 1932, o r o n a n y interest p a y m e n t d a t e thereafter, the city may, at its option, redeem all the bonds o f this loan then outstanding, but n o t a part thereof, a t 102 per c e n t o f the principal a m o u n t thereof and accrued interest, provided notice o f such redemption l>e published once a w e e k f o r 12 successive weeks preceding t h e redemption d a t e in t w o newspapers o f general circulation in the c i t y of N e w Y o r k . Application will be m a d e to list the dollar bonds of t h e p e r cent m o r t g a g e loan o f 1922 on the N e w Y o r k S t o c k Exchange. Very truly yours. DR. BAXA, President of the Central Administrative Commission of Greater Prague. The above letter having been received b y c a b l e is s u b j e c t t o c o r r e c t i o n . $55,000,000 GOVERNMENT OF THE ARGENTINE NATION SIX MONTHS 6 PER CENT TREASURY GOLD NOTKS, DATED SEPTEMBER 1, 1923, D C E MARCH 1 , 1 9 2 4 Principal and interest p a y a b l e i n t h e c i t y o f N e w Y o r k In U n i t e d States g o l d Coin without deduction f o r a n y A r g e n t i n e t a x e s o r impositions, present o r f u t u r e . For further i n f o r m a t i o n r e g a r d i n g t h i s issue o f n o t e s r e f e r e n c e Is m a d e t o a letter received by t h e u n d e r s i g n e d f r o m F e l i p e A . E s p i l , Esq., c l m r g ^ d ' a f f a i r e s of the Government o f the A r g e n t i n e N a t i o n a t W a s h i n g t o n , c o p i e s o f w h i c h SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, 226 m a y b e obtained f r o m , the undersigned, and w h i c h he h a s summarized as follows: G e n e r a l : " T h e Argentine ^Republic has an area o f a p p r o x i m a t e l y 1,100,000 square miles o r o v e r one-third o f the area o f the United States, and leads all South A m e r i c a n countries in v o l u m e of foreign trade. T h e r e a r e to-day 22,855 miles o f railroad. T h e Government itself h a s considerable mileage under construction." P u r p o s e : " T h e proceeds o f this issue w i l l be applied to the p a y m e n t of the $50*000,000 Government o f the Argentine Nation 2-year 7 p e r cent treasury gold notes w h i c h mature on October 1, 1023, and f o r other purposes." Gold r e s e r v e : T h e total note circulation amounts t o 1*1,362.504,000 paper, which i s covered by a gold reserve o f over SO per cent, one o f the highest ill the w o r l d . " F i n a n c e s : " T h e national debt a s o f July 31, 1023, at g o l d parities of exchange, a m o u n t s to ^008,000,000 gold, being equivalent to $9S United States per capita a s against over $200 per capita f o r the United States. I n addition the nation guarantees the bonds o f the National M o r t g a g e Bunk, w h i c h is selfsupporting and has a large reserve o f its o w n . " T h e undersigned offer the above notes, subject to prior sale, a t 9 0 % per cent and accrued interest t o date o f delivery to yield over 7 p e r cent. Government of tlie Argentine Nation 2-year 7 per cent treasury gold notes due October l t 1923, will be accepted in p a y m e n t f o r these n o t e s on a 4 per cent interest basis, provided that notice o f the amount o f m a t u r i n g notes to be tendered in payment is given not less than five d a y s p r i o r to the date fixed f o r delivery o f and payment f o r the n e w notes. T h e above notes a r e offered if, when, and a s issued and received by the undersigned and subject t o the completion o f their purchase and approval of counsel. T e m p o r a r y certificates o r interim receipts e x c h a n g e a b l e f o r definitive notes when prepared m a y b e delivered against payment in N e w Y o r k funds. NEW YOBK, September <?, 1923. K U H N , LOEB & Co. BLAIR & C o . (INC.). WASHINGTON, D. C.f September 5,1923. Messrs. KUHN, LOEB & Co. and BLAIR & Co. ( I n c . ) , New York, N. Y. DEAR SIRS: R e f e r r i n g to' the $55,000,000 Government of the Argentine Nation six months 6 per cent treasury gold notes due M a r c h 1, 1924, I beg to submit the f o l l o w i n g i n f o r m a t i o n : T h e Argentine R e p u b l i c h a s an area o f 1,100,000 square miles, o r over onethird o f the area c o v e r e d b y the United States. I t h a s a population of 9,000,000. T h e capital, B u e n o s Aires, w i t h a population o f 1,670,000, is f a r the most important p o r t o f South A m e r i c a and o n e o f the largest o f the entire Western Hemisphere. I n regard to climate and soil, the country presents the m o s t n e a r l y perfect area t h e w o r l d contains f o r t h e production o f cereals a n d f o r c a t t l e raising. T h e cultivated area has increased at a remarkably rapid p a c e in the last 15 years. A m o n g the chief p r o d u c t s f o r exportation a r e w h e a t , corn, linseed; meat, hides, and w o o l . I n addition, the country a l s o p r o d u c e s alfalfa,, oats, barley, quebracho, sugar, cotton, tobacco, potatoes, rice, a n d g r a p e s in large quantities. T h e oil industry, a m o r e recent development, i s attracting considerable interest and m a k i n g v e r y p r o m i s i n g strides. T h e c o u n t r y possesses vast m i n e r a l resources, w h i c h a r e in the p r o c e s s of development. A r g e n t i n a leads all South A m e r i c a n c o u n t r i e s in the v o l u m e o f foreign trade. Tlie "figures f o r the last s i x y e a r s in United States d o l l a r s ( a t the average rate o f e x c h a n g e ) w e r e a s f o l l o w s : Year 1917 "1918 1919---— 1920 — —- — 1922*(provisional figures) -----— — $386,571,000 511,748,000 647.581,000 789,362,000 532,717,000 552,113,000 SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil S K C U l l I T I E S 227 T h e principal i m p o r t s n r e textiles, iron a m i steel m a n u f a c t u r e s , a g r i c u l t u r a l implements, c h e m i c a l s , ami b u i l d i n g m a t e r i a l s . There a r e to-day 22,355 m i l e s o f m i l road in Argent ina, o f w h i c h 3,SG5 m i l e s are Government o w n e d and 1S.400 m i l e s a r e p r i v a t e l y o w n e d . T h e G o v e r n ment has c o n s i d e r a b l e a d d i t i o n a l m i l e a g e u n d e r c o n s t r u c t i o n . T h e national debt o f the R e p u b l i c a s o f J u l y 31, 1023, a t g o l d parities o f exchange, a m o u n t s to PtJ08.000,000, b e i n g e q u i v a l e n t to $08 United S t a t e s per capita, as a g a i n s t o v e r $200 p e r c a p i t a f o r t h e United States. In a d d i t i o n , the Argentine N a t i o n g u a r a n t e e s t h e b o n d s o f the N a t i o n a l M o r t g a g e B a n k These bonds a r e s o m e w h a t s i m i l a r t o t h e United S t a t e s F e d e r a l f a r m l o a n bonds, and a r e f a v o r e d a s a n i n v e s t m e n t In Euroi>e. T h e N a t i o n a l M o r t g a g e Bank is self-supjiorting a n d h a s a l a r g e r e s e r v e o f its o w n . Argentine credit in E u r o p e r a n k s v e r y high. A l a r g e n u m b e r o f p r e - w a r Argentine loans a r e listed in L o u d o n a n d o n the c o n t i n e n t a l stock e x c h a n g e s o f Europe, none o f w h i c h c a r r i e s a h i g h e r r a t e than 5 p e r c e n t . T h e A r g e n t i n e Republic d u r i n g the w a r m a d e l a r g e a d v a n c e s t o s o m e o f the Allies, besides repurchasing a l a r g e p a r t o f t h e A r g e n t i n e securities p r e v i o u s l y p l a c e d i n European markets. The budgetary figures s i n c e 1010 a r c a s f o l l o w s : Year 1919 1920 1921 1922 (budgetary estimates) 11 Receipts (sold pesos)* 168,388,000 218,416,000 190,784,000 193.052,000 Expenditures (gold pesos)* 188,276.000 214,456,000 246,664,000 278,696,000 gold peso equal* $0.96)4 at gold par of exchange. The above receipts d o not i n c l u d e f u n d s ' r a i s e d t h r o u g h loans, but the e x p e n d i tures d o include capital e x p e n d i t u r e s f o r w h i c h l o a n s w e r e c o n t r a c t e d . The capital expenditures f o r 1022 w e r e n o t less than 1*28,000,000 gold. Budgetary receipts f o r 1023 thus f a r a r e 1*24,000,000 gold in e x c e s s o f those f o r 1022. F u r t h e r m o r e , a s e x p e n d i t u r e s a r e b e i n g c u r t a i l e d , it is e x p e c t e d t h a t there will be n o deficit f o r t h i s y e a r . T h e total note c i r c u l a t i o n o f A r g e n t i n a a m o u n t s t o tt,302,504,000 paper, which is covered b y a g o l d r e s e r v e o f o v e r SO p e r cent, o n e o f the highest in the world. The proceeds of this issue w i l l b e a p p l i e d to the p a y m e n t o f the $50,000,000 Government o f the A r g e n t i n e n a t i o n 2 - y e a r 7 p e r c e n t t r e a s u r y g o l d n o t e s , w h i c h mature on October 1. 1023, a n d f o r o t h e r p u r p o s e s . The notes a r e a d i r e c t l i a b i l i t y a n d o b l i g a t i o n o f the G o v e r n m e n t w h i c h pledges its good f a i t h a n d c r e d i t f o r t h e p u n c t u a l p a y m e n t o f their principal a n d interest. The notes will b e Issued in b e a r e r f o r m , in d e n o m i n a t i o n s o f $1,000, w i l l b e dated September 1, 1023, and w i l l m a t u r e M a r c h 1, 1024. P r i n c i p a l a n d interest •will be payable in gold c o i n o f t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s o f A m e r i c a o f o r e q u a l t o t h e present standard o f w e i g h t a n d fineness, In t h e c i t y o f N e w Y o r k , w i t l i o u t deduction f o r a n y t a x e s o r i m p o s i t i o n s n o w o r h e r e a f t e r established o r l e v i e d by or within the t e r r i t o r y o f t h e G o v e r n m e n t o f t h e A r g e n t i n e n a t i o n a g a i n s t the notes o r the Income t h e r e f r o m o r t h e h o l d e r s t h e r e o f , a n d shall b e p a y a b l e as well in time o f w a r a s in t i m e o f p e a c e , w h e t h e r t h e h o l d e r b e a citizen o r resident of a f r i e n d l y o r h o s t i l e s t a t e . Very truly y o u r s , FELIPE A . ESPIL. Charge d?Affaire* of the Government of the Argentine nation. $40,000,000 GOVERNMENT o r THE ARGENTINE NATION EXTERNAL SINKI.NO FUND 6 PEB CENT GOU> BONDS OR 1023, SERIES A, DATED SEPTEMBER 1, 1923, DUE SEPTEMBER 1, 1057 Principal and interest p a y a b l e in t h e c i t y o f N e w T o r k in United S t a t e s g o l d coin without d e d u c t i o n f o r a n y A r g e n t i n e t a x e s o r iiniMndtions p r e s e n t o r f u t u r e . Interest payable M a r c h 1 a n d S e p t e m b e r l . C-oujwn b o n d s in d e n o m i n a t i o n s o f $1,000 and $500 r e g i s t e r a b l e a s t o p r i n c i p a l o n l y . Redeemable t h r o u g h t h e o p e r a t i o n o f a c u m u l a t i v e s i n k i n g f u n d c a l c u l a t e d t o retire the b o n d s o f t h i s i s s u e n o t l a t e r t h a n S e p t e m b e r 1, 1057. SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, 228 F o r f u r t h e r i n f o r m a t i o n regarding this issue o f bonds reference is made to the a c c o m p a n y i n g letter received f r o m F e l i p e A . Espil, Esq., c h a r g e d'affaires o f the Government of the Argentine Nation a t W a s h i n g t o n , copies of which may be obtained f r o m the undersigned and which he lias summarized a s f o l l o w s : G e n e r a l : " T h e Argentine Republic has an area o f a p p r o x i m a t e l y 1,100,000 square miles o r over one-third of the area of the United States, and leads all South A m e r i c a n countries in volume o f f o r e i g n trade. T h e r e a r e to-day 22,355 miles o f railroad. T h e Government itself has considerable m i l e a g e under construction." P u r p o s e : " T h e proceeds o f this issue will b e applied t o w a r d the payment of short-term notes included in the total debt a s stated below.*' Gold r e s e r v e : " T h e total note circulation o f Argentina amounts to PI,362,564,000 paper, equal to 1*599,528,000 gold, which is covered b y a gold reserve of 1*475,003,000 ( = U . S. $408,300,000) or 79 per cent, one o f t h e highest in the world." F i n a n c e s : " T h e national debt as of December 31, lt>23, a t gold parities of exchange, amounts to f*932,000,000 gold, being equivalent to $100 U. S. per capita a s against over $200 per capita f o r the United States. I n addition, the nation guarantees the bonds of the National Mortgage B a n k w h i c h is self-supp o r t i n g and h a s a large reserve of its o w n . " T h e undersigned offer the a b o v e bonds, s u b j e c t to prior stile, at 9 8 % per cent and accrued interest to date o f delivery to yield 6V4 per cent to maturity. Government of the Argentine Nation six months 6 p e r cent treasury gold notes due M a r c h 1, 1924, will be accepted in payment f o r these b o n d s on a 4 per cent interest basis, provided that notice of the a m o u n t o f such notes to be tendered in p a y m e n t is given not less than five d a y s prior to tlie date fixed f o r delivery of and payment f o r the n e w bonds. T h e above bonds a r e offered if, when and a s issued and received b y the undersigned and subject t o the completion of their purchase and approval of coansel. Temporary bonds o r interim receipts exchangeable f o r definitive b o n d s when prepared m a y be delivered against payment in N e w Y o r k funds. BLAIR & Co. ( I n c . ) . K U H N , LOEB & C o . NEW YORK, January 16, 192//. WASHINGTON, D . C., January 16, M e s s r s . KUHN, LOEB & C o . a n d BLAIR & C o . ( I N C . ) , 192f New York, N. Y, DEAR SIRS : R e f e r r i n g to the $40,000,000 Government o f the A r g e n t i n e Nation external sinking f u n d 6 per cent gold bonds o f 1923, series A , w h i c h you are offering, I beg to submit the f o l l o w i n g i n f o r m a t i o n : T h e Argentine Republic has an area o f 1,100,000 square miles, o r over onethird of the area covered by the United States. I t has a population o f 9,000,000. T h e capital, Buenos Aires, with a population o f 1,750,000, is f a r the most important p o r t Of South America, and one o f the largest o f t h e entire Western Hemisphere. I n regard t o climate and soil, the country presents the m o s t nearly perfect area the w o r l d contains f o r the production of cereals and f o r cattle raising. A m o n g the chief products f o r exportation a r e wheat, c o m , linseed, meat, hides, and w o o l . I n addition, the country produces alfalfa, oats, barley, quebracho, sugar, cotton, tobacco, potatoes, rice, and grapes in large quantities. T h e country possesses vast mineral resources, w h i c h a r e in process o f development. Argentina leads all South A m e r i c a n countries in volume o f f o r e i g n trade. T h e figures f o r the last six years in United States dollars ( a t t h e average rate o f e x c h a n g e f o r each y e a r ) w e r e as f o l l o w s : Year i9i9_ 1020„ 1021— : 1922 - 386,571,000 511,746,000 647,581,000 789,362,000 532,717,000 551,308,000 S A L E OF FOHEIGX B O N D S Oil SKCUllITIES 229 T h e principal i m p o r t * n r e textiles. Iron a n d steel m a n u f a c t u r e r s , a g r i c u l tural implements, c h e m i c a l s , a n d b u i l d i n g m a t e r i a l s . There a r c to-day 22.355 m i l e s o f r a i l r o a d In A r g e n t i n a , o f w h i c h 3,805 m i l e s are Government o w n e d and 18.400 m i l e s a r e p r i v a t e l y o w n e d . T h e G o v e r n ment has c o n s i d e r a b l e a d d i t i o n a l m i l e a g e u n d e r c o n s t r u c t i o n . The national debt o f t h e R e p u b l i c a s o f D e c e m b e r 31, 1923. a t g o l d p a r i t i e s of exchange, a m o u n t s t o 1>932.000,000 g o l d , b e i n g e q u i v a l e n t t o $100 U . S. p e r capita, a s against o v e r $200 p e r c a p i t a f o r t h e United States. In a d d i t i o n , tlie Argentine Nation g u a r a n t e e s the b o n d s o f the N a t i o n a l M o r t g a g e B a n k . T h e s e bonds a r e s o m e w h a t s i m i l a r t o t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s F e d e r a l f a r m - l o a n b o n d s , and are f a v o r e d a s an i n v e s t m e n t in E u r o p e . T h e National M o r t g a g e B a n k is self-supporting a n d h a s a l a r g e r e s e r v e o f its o w n . Argentine credit in Kuroiie r a n k s v e r y high. A l a r g e n u m b e r o f p r e - w a r Argentine loans a r e list cm! in I-ondmi n n d o n the c o n t i n e n t a l s t o c k e x c h a n g e s o f Europe, none o f w h i c h c a r r i e s a h i g h e r interest r a t e than 5 p e r cent, D u r i n g the w a r the A r g e n t i n e R e p u b l i c m a d e l a r g e a d v a n c e s to s o m e o f t h e Allies, besides repurchasing n large p a r t o f t h e A r g e n t i n e s e c u r i t i e s p r e v i o u s l y p l a c e d in European m a r k e t s . The budgetary figures s i n c e 1919 a r e a s f o l l o w s : Receipts (gold pesos i) Year 1919 1920 1921 * * 168,38$, 000 218,416,000 190,784,000 193,952,000 249,051000 Expenditures (gold pesos) 188,276,000 214,456,000 246,664,000 278,696,000 292,160,000 * One gold pc5O-$0.96H at pt>1d par of exchange. ' Budgetary estimates lor 1923. Tlie above receipts d o n o t i n c l u d e f u n d s raised t h r o u g h loans, b u t the e x penditures d o i n c l u d e c a p i t a l e x p e n d i t u r e s f o r w h i c h l o a n s w e r e c o n t r a c t e d . The capital e x p e n d i t u r e s f o r 1922 w e r e a b o u t 1*28,000,000 g o l d , a n d f o r 1923 about 1*31000,000 gold. The total note c i r c u l a t i o n o f A r g e n t i n a a m o u n t s t o 302,504,000 p a p e r , equal to 1*599,528,000 g o l d , w h i c h i s c o v e r e d b y a g o l d reserve o f F475,003,000 ( = U. S. $458,300,000) o r 79 p e r c e n t , o n e o f t h e h i g h e s t in t h e w o r l d . Tlie proceeds o f this issue w i l l l>c a p p l i e d t o w a r d t h e p a y m e n t o f s h o r t - t e r m notes which a r e included in t h e a m o u n t o f the t o t a l debt a s a b o v e stated. T h e external s i n k i n g f u n d 6 p e r c e n t g o l d loan o f 1923 h a s been d u l y a u t h o r ized b y acts o f the N a t i o n a l C o n g r e s s o f t h e G o v e r n m e n t o f t h e A r g e n t i n e Nation, k n o w n a s l a w s N o s . 11206 a n d 11207. a n d is limited t o an a m o u n t o f 150,000,000 A r g e n t i n e gold p e s o s ( $ 1 0 0 - 1 0 3 . 0 4 g o l d p e s o s a t gold p a r o f e x change) o r the e q u i v a l e n t t h e r e o f in A m e r i c a n d o l l a r s o r p o u n d s sterling o f Great B r i t a i n . T h e loan is a d i r e c t l i a b i l i t y a n d o b l i g a t i o n o f t h e G o v e r n m e n t , w h i c h pledges its g o o d f a i t h and c r e d i t f o r t h e p u n c t u a l p a y m e n t o f t h e p r i n c i p a l a n d interest thereof and o f t h e Installments o f the s i n k i n g f u n d , in a c c o r d a n c e with the t e r m s o f the b o n d s , nnd o t h e r w i s e f o r t h e s e r v i c e o f t h e l o a n ; a n d t h e Government covenants, a n d t h e b o n d s shall s o p r o v i d e that, i f , w h i l e a n y o f the bonds o f the e x t e r n a l l o a n o f 1923 shall b e o u t s t a n d i n g , t h e G o v e r n m e n t shall create o r issue o r g u a r a n t e e a n y l o a n o r b o n d s s e c u r e d b y lien on a n y o f its revenues o r assets, o r a s s i g n a n y o f i t s r e v e n u e s o r assets a s s e c u r i t y f o r any guaranty o f a n y o b l i g a t i o n , t h e b o n d s o f t h e e x t e r n a l loan o f 1923 shall b e secured equally a n d r a t a b l y w i t h s u c h o t h e r l o a n o r b o n d s o r s u c h g u a r a n t y . The bonds o f series A o f t h e l o a n w i l l b e issued in c o u p o n b e a r e r f o r m , r e g i s terable a s t o p r i n c i p a l . In d e n o m i n a t i o n s o f $1,000 a n d $500, w i l l b e d a t e d September 1, 1923, w i l l m a t u r e S e p t e m b e r 1, 1957, a n d w i l l b e a r interest f r o m September 1, 1923, p a y a b l e s e m i a n n u a l l y o n M a r c h 1 a n d S e p t e m b e r 1 in e a c h year. P r i n c i p a l a n d i n t e r e s t w i l l b e p a y a b l e in t h e c i t y o f N e w Y o r k in g o l d coin of the U n i t e d S t a t e s o f A m e r i c a o f o r e q u a l t o t h e s t a n d a r d o f w e i g h t a n d fineness e x i s t i n g S e p t e m b e r 1 , 1 9 2 3 , w i t h o u t d e d u c t i o n f o r a n y t a x e s o r i m p o s i tions n o w o r h e r e a f t e r e s t a b l i s h e d o r l e v i e d b y , o r w i t h i n t h e t e r r i t o r y o f , t h e Government o f t h e A r g e n t i n e N a t i o n a g a i n s t t h e b o n d s o r t h e i n c o m e t h e r e f r o m o r the holder t h e r e o f , a n d s h a l l b e p a i d a s w e l l i n t i m e o f w a r a s in t i m e o f 230 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, p e a c e and w h e t h e r t h e holder he a citizen o r resident of a f r i e n d l y o r a hostile state. Beginning M a r c h 1, 1924, and thereafter semiannually on M a r c h 1 and September 1 in each year, the Government of the A r g e n t i n e N a t i o n will pay to Kulin, L o e b & Co., B l a i r & Co., and the Chase National B a n k , o f the city of New Y o r k , t h e fiscal agents of the loan, as a sinking f u n d , in United States gold coin o f the standard o f w e i g h t and fineness aforesaid, ( a ) an a m o u n t equal to oneh a l f o f 1 p e r cent o f the m a x i m u m principal amount of the b o n d s o f series A a t a n y t i m e theretofore issued, plus ( 5 ) an a m o u n t equal to the interest accrued a n d u n p a i d on all b o n d s acquired through the operation o f the sinking fund t o the date o f each such sinking-fund payment. T h e fiscal agents shall apply each instalment o f the sinking f u n d t o w a r d the purchase o f b o n d s b e l o w par t h r o u g h tenders, and t o t h e extent that such instalment shall n o t within a period of 90 d a y s a f t e r its payment have been so applied bonds shall be drawn b y lot f o r retirement at par. Notice o f the numbers o f the b o n d s d r a w n for retirement shall be advertised and the bonds s o indicated shall b e c o m e due and p a y a b l e on the next interest payment date and shall bear n o interest therea f t e r . Sinking-fund payments m a y be increased b y the government in its discretion. A p a r t of the series A bonds of the external sinking f u n d 6 per cent gold loan o f 1923 m a y be issued as sterling bonds in denominations of £200, £100, and £20, interest and sinking f u n d payable in London in sterling o f the United Kingdom o f Great Britain and Ireland, and such sterling b o n d s shall in a l l other respects b e similar t o the dollar bonds o f series A . Application will be m a d e f o r the listing o f the dollar bonds o f series A on the N e w Y o r k Stock Exchange. Y e r y truly yours, FELIPE A . ESPIL, Charge d'Affaires of the Government of the Argentine Nation. CONFIDENTIAL NEW YORK, February 7, J1924. DEAR SIRS : W e have agreed to purchase $20,000,000 principal a m o u n t Government of the Argentine Nation six months 5*4 p e r cent treasury gold notes due August 25, 1924, to be issued in bearer f o r m in denominations o f $1,000 and $5,000, principal a n d interest to b e p a y a b l e in United States g o l d coin, without deduction f o r any taxes o r impositions n o w or h e r e a f t e r established o r levied b y or within the territory o f the Government o f t h e A r g e n t i n e Nation against the notes o r the income t h e r e f r o m or t b e h o l d e r s thereof. The proceeds of this issue are to be applied t o w a r d the p a y m e n t o f the $55,000,000 notes maturing March 1, 1924, provision h a v i n g been m a d e f o r the balance of such notes through the recent sale of $40,000,000 6 p e r c e n t g o l d b o n d s o f 1923, series A , due September 1, 1957. T h e balance r e m a i n i n g o f t h e proceeds of these t w o issues is available t o the Government o f t h e A r g e n t i n e Nation f o r other purposes. W e h a v e reserved f o r you $— principal a m o u n t o f these notes at 100 p e r cent and accrued interest to d a t e o f delivery. P a y m e n t f o r the notes is. t o be m a d e in N e w Y o r k on o r a b o u t F e b r u a r y 25, 1924, against delivery o f t h e notes o r interim receipts therefor, deliverable if, when, a n d a s issued a n d received by us and subject to the approval o f counsel. Government o f the Argentine National s i x m o n t h s 6 p e r c e n t treasury g o l d notes d u e March 1, 1924, will be accepted in p a y m e n t f o r notes allotted o n a 4 p e r cent interest basis, p r o v i d e d t h a t n o t i c e o f the a m o u n t o f maturing n o t e s to be tendered in payment is given n o t less than five d a y s p r i o r t o the d a t e fixed f o r delivery o f a n d p a y m e n t f o r the n e w notes. P l e a s e n o t i f y us promptly w h e t h e r y o u desire t o a c c e p t the notes reserved f o r y o u , and believe us, V e r y t r u l y yours, By CHASE SECURITIES CORPORATION, — — , Assistant p . p . KUHN, LOEB & C o . Treasurer. SALE OF FOHEIGX B O N D S Oil SKCUllITIES 231 $20,000,000 MORTGAGE BANK OF CUIUS (CAJA DE Cktinrro HIFOTEOAIUO) GU ARANTEED SINKING FUND OVFE PER CENT GOLD BONDS, DUE JUNE 30, 1957 Unconditionally g u a r a n t e e d , u s states! b e l o w , a s t o p r i n c i p a l , interest, a n d sinking fund, b y i n d o r s e m e n t , b y t b e R e p u b l i c o f C h i l e . Coupon bearer b o n d s in d e n o m i n a t i o n s o f $1,000 a n d $500 e a c h . Principal and interest t o b e p a y a b l e , a t the o p t i o n o f tlie holders, in N e w Y o r k C i t y a t t h e office of Kuhn, L o e b & C o . o r o f G u a r a n t y T r u s t C o . o f N e w Y o r k , in U n i t e d States gold coin o f o r equal t o t h e s t a n d a r d o f w e i g h t and fineness e x i s t i n g June 3 0 , 1 9 2 5 , o r in S a n t i a g o , Chile, a t t h e oflice o f t h e C a j a b y s i g h t d r a f t o n New Y o r k City, w i t h o u t d e d u c t i o n f o r a n y t a x e s , imposts, levies, o r duties o f any nature n o w o r a t a n y t i m e h e r e a f t e r imiw.sed b y t h e R e p u b l i c o f C h i l e o r by any State, P r o v i n c e , m u n i c i p a l i t y , o r o t h e r t a x i n g a u t h o r i t y t h e r e o f o r therein, and to b e p a y a b l e In t i m e o f w a r a s well a s in t i m e o f peace, a n d whether the holder b e a citizen o r a r e s i d e n t o f a f r i e n d l y o r a hostile State. Interest p a y a b l e J u n e 3 0 a n d D e c e m b e r 31. F o r further i n f o r m a t i o n r e g a r d i n g this Issue o f bonds, r e f e r e n c e Is m a d e t o the accompanying letter r e c e i v e d f r o m H i s E x c e l l e n c y t h e H o n . B e l t r a n Mathieu, a m b a s s a d o r e x t r a o r d i n a r y a n d p l e n i p o t e n t i a r y o f the R e p u b l i c o f Chile, and f r o m which t h e f o l l o w i n g is s u m m a r i z e d : The bonds a r e u n c o n d i t i o n a l l y g u a r a n t e e d a s t o principal, interest, and sinking fund, b y i n d o r s e m e n t , b y the R e p u b l i c o f Chile, p u r s u a n t to d e c r e e l a w of the governing c o u n c i l , d a t e d M a r c h 9. 1925, and an e x e c u t i v e decree, d a t e d June 15, 1925 ( s u p p l e m e n t i n g said d e c r e e l a w ) , issued u n d e r the a u t h o r i t y o f President A l c s s a n d r i and h i s c a b i n e t , w h o a r e f u n c t i o n i n g a s the G o v e r n m e n t o f Chile, Congress h a v i n g been d i s s o l v e d in S e p t e m b e r , 1924, p e n d i n g t h e a d o p t i o n of a new constitution, w h i c h is n o w b e i n g d r a f t e d . T h e g u a r a n t y thus a u thorized is valid and b i n d i n g upon t h e R e p u b l i c o f Chile. Beginning D e c e m b e r 31. 1925, t h e b o n d s w i l l b e redeemable t h r o u g h a c u m u lative sinking f u n d c a l c u l a t e d t o r e t i r e t h e w h o l e issue b y J u n e 30, 1957, t o be applied on each semiannual Interest d a t e t o the r e d e m p t i o n b y lot o f b o n d s a t par. The Caja will h a v e t h e right t o i n c r e a s e the a m o u n t o f a n y s i n k i n g - f u n d payment f o r the r e d e m p t i o n o f a d d i t i o n a l b o n d s on a n y interest date, a n d in any such case a p p r o p r i a t e r e d u c t i o n s w i l l b e m a d e in subsequent s i n k i n g - f u n d payments. T h i s r i g h t is r e s e r v e d b e c a u s e r e p a y m e n t s on t h e m o r t g a g e l o a n s can be made b y the b o r r o w e r s e i t h e r in c a s h o f in b o n d s o f the C a j a in e x c e s s of the fixed m i n i m u m a m o r t i z a t i o n p a y m e n t s , and the C a j a is n o t permitted b y law to h a v e its b o n d s o u t s t a n d i n g in e x c e s s o f t h e m o r t g a g e l o a n s a g a i n s t which they a r e issued. The undersigned will r e c e i v e s u b s c r i p t i o n s f o r the a b o v e h<>mk, subject t o allotment, at 9 7 % per c e n t a n d a c c r u e d Interest t o d a t e o f delivery, to yield 0.70 per cent t o m a t u r i t y . The undersigned reserves t h e right t o c l o s e the subscription a t a n y t i m e without notice, t o r e j e c t a n y a p p l i c a t i o n , t o a l l o t a smaller a m o u n t than applied f o r , and to m a k e a l b t m c n t s in t h e i r u n c o n t r o l l e d discretion. The bonds and g n a r a u t v a r e , in the o p i n i o n of A m e r i c a n and Chilean counsel, valid obligations, r e s t i v e l y , o f the C a j a d e C r e d i t o H i p o t e e a r i o and t h e Republic o f Chile. The above b o n d s a r e o f f e r e d If, w h e n , and a s issued and received by t h e undersigned, a n d s u b j e c t t o t h e a p p r o v a l o f counsel. In the first i n s t a n c e , interim certificates o f G u a r a n t y Trust C o . o f N e w Y o r k will b e d e l i v e r e d a g a i n s t payment in N e w Y o r k f u n d s f o r b o n d s a l l o t t e d , w h i c h Interim certificates willbe exchangeable f o r definitive b o n d s w h e n p r e p a r e d . Application will be m a d e in d u e c o u r s e t o list these 1KMids on t h e N e w Y o r k Stock E x c h a n g e . K U H N , LOEB & C o . GUARANTY C o . OF NEW YORK. NEW YORK, JUNE 3925. WASHINGTON, D . C , J taw 2J, Messrs. KUHN, LOEB & C o . , GUARANTY CO. o f N e w W2't. York, ATe?r York. DEAR SIRS: R e f e r r i n g t o t h e i s s u e o f $20,000,000 g u a r a n t e e d s i n k i n g f u n d OV2 per cent g o l d b o n d s , d u e J u n e 30, 1957, o f t h e M o r t g a g e B a n k o f ( ' b i l e (Caja de Cr£dito H i p o t e e a r i o , C h i l e ) , I b e g t o g i v e y o u t h e f o l l o w i n g i n f o r m a tion: 232 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, Tlie b o n d s a r e unconditionally guaranteed as to principal, interest, and sink* ing f u n d , b y endorsement, by the R e p u b l i c of Chile, p u r s u a n t to decree law of the governing council, dated M a r c h 9, 1925, a n d an E x e c u t i v e decree, dated J u n e 15, 1925 (supplementing said decree law 7 ), issued u n d e r the authority of President Alessandri and liis cabinet, w h o a r e f u n c t i o n i n g a s the Government o f Chile, congress having been dissolved in September, 1924, p e n d i n g the adoption o f a n e w constitution w h i c h is n o w being d r a f t e d . T h e guaranty thus authorized is valid and binding upon the R e p u b l i c of Chile. T h e C a j a d e GrSdito Hipotecario w a s created b y l a w of A u g u s t 29, 1855, for the purpose o f m a k i n g available credit facilities on reasonable terms f o r the development and improvement o f real property in Chile. T h e b o a r d of directors i s selected b y both legislative chambers o f Chile, and t h e chairman of the b o a r d , t h e chief counsel, the cashier, the controller and the secretary are appointed b y the president o f the Republic. D u r i n g its entire existence of 70 years, the C a j a has operated successfully and has never failed to meet its obligations. T h e record of its loan collections is v e r y satisfactory. T h e losses incurred by t h e C a j a on p r o p e r t y foreclosed under its mortgages h a v e not exceeded $40,000 in the aggregate f o r the last 10 years. In his report, published F e b r u a r y 1, 1924, to the Department of Commerce of the United States, Mr. Charles A . McQueen, special agent of the B u r e a u of Foreign and Domestic Commerce o f the department, states that in the course o f its long existence the C a j a has conducted its a f f a i r s with uniform safety and success. T h e C a j a has n o capital stock and is not operated f o r profit. I t has power to charge a commission to provide f o r its expenses and f o r a reserve fund, as additional security f o r its bonds, b u t having accumulated a sufficient reserve; the Caja has n o w discontinued charging such commission. T h e C a j a issues its bonds only against mortgages registered in its name. It makes only first mortgage loans. T h e loans a r e m a d e on a conservative basis end the risk is greatly diversified. On D e c e m b e r 31, 1924, the C a j a had outstanding various issues o f bonds aggregating $84,995,700, a t a p p r o x i m a t e present rates of exchange, against which it liad m a d e m o r e t h a n 9,800 mortgage loans, being an average o f not m o r e than $9,000 p e r loan. T h e aggregate appraised improved value of the properties mortgaged a s security f o r these loans amounted to m o r e than f o u r times the amount of the loans. A s f u r t h e r security f o r its bonds, the C a j a h a s accumulated a reserve f u n d o f approximately $5,118,000, at approximate present rates of exchange. T h e l a w o f September 10, 1892, authorizes t h e C a j a t o i s s u e b o n d s and to make mortgage loans payable in f o r e i g n currencies. I t i s t h e p r a c t i c e of the Caja to make i t s m o r t g a g e loans, against w h i c h bonds p a y a b l e in a foreign currency are issued, also payable i n the same currency, e x c e p t In cases where it has obtained a guaranty of the Republic o f Chile f o r any loss resulting from exchange fluctuations. T h i s w a s d o n e in 1912 w h e n Fes. 58,823,500 gold bonds w e r e issued ( o f w h i c h t h e r e a r e still Fes. 28,444,500 gold n o w outstanding), a n d is also being done in the case o f the present issue against $15,000,000 of which m o r t g a g e loans in Chilean currency w i l l be outstanding. T h e mortgage loans against the balance of $5*000,000 of this issue w i l l be m a d e a t the request o f the R e p u b l i c of Chile, f o r special purposes at l o w e r interest rates than the C a j a is p a y i n g on t h e bonds and the R e p u b l i c h a s agreed to p a y the difference and to guarantee these m o r t g a g e loans. T b e entire present issue o f bonds will also b e guaranteed b y indorsement b y the R e p u b l i c o f Chile. N o other issue of bonds o f the C a j a is indorsed w i t h the guaranty o f the R e p u b l i c . T h e b o n d s o f the C a j a are legal investments f o r savings b a n k s and trust f u n d s in Chile. P r i o r to t h e war, in 1911 and 1912, three issues of 5 per cent b o n d s of the C a j a , not indorsed with the g u a r a n t y o f the Government, w e r e m a d e in Europe, at p r i c e s f r o m 9 6 ^ to 99*4 per cent. T h e present debt o f the Republic o f Chile, including the present a n d all other obligations guaranteed b y it, aggregates a b o u t $250,000,000, a t approximately present rates o f exchange. T h e proceeds o f the G o v e r n m e n t l o a n s h a v e been l a r g e l y u s e d f o r the construction o r i m p r o v e m e n t o f r a i l w a y s , harbors, and o t h e r p u b l i c w o r k s . T h e G o v e r n m e n t o w n s 3,024 m i l e s o f r a i l r o a d s ; telegraph lines, and o t h e r p r o p e r t y , o f an estimated v a l u e o f a p p r o x i m a t e l y $650,000,000, a t a p p r o x i m a t e present rates o f e x c h a n g e , w h i c h is w e l l in e x c e s s o f the entire a m o u n t o f the debt. I n addition, the G o v e r n m e n t o w n s l a r g e a n d v e r y vain-, a b l e t r a c t s o f nitrate lands. SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 233 Chile is a mining and agricultural c o u n t r y . Its mineral pr<Klucts are largely raw materials f o r essential industries. E x p o r t s consist chiefly of nitrates and bj*-products of the nitrate industry, copper, b o r a x , wool, and a limited amount of agricultural products. T h e nitrate deposits arc; the only large natural deposits so far discovered in the world. T h e copper industry has been extensively developed, largely by American capital. Tho tcule balance o f Chile is favorable. T h e total foreign trade f o r 1923 (the last year f o r which official figures a r e available) aggregated $318,000,000 at the approximate present rate o f exchange, and the balance o f exports over imports amounted to $78,000,000. T h e unofficial estimates f o r 1924, both f o r the total trade and f o r the f a v o r a b l e balance, exceed the results f o r 1923. Since 1915 imports have exceeded e x p o r t s in only o n e y e a r . The present currency circulation o f Chile at the present rate o f exchange o f about 11% cents p e r peso* is equivalent to $35,855,045. P a r t o f this currency is covered b y gold reserves, part b y commodities and p a r t by mortgage loans and other obligations. T h e total g o l d reserve amounts to approximately $41,800,000, which is in excess o f the dollar equivalent, as stated above, o f the present currency circulation. The $20,000,000 g u a r a n t y sinking-fund G% p e r cent gold bonds of tho Caja, constituting the loan designated Emprestito o r o C a j a Hipotecaria, 1925, which you have agreed to purchase, will be in coupon bearer f o r m , in denominations o f $1,000 atul $500, w i l l be dated J u n e 30, 1925, will mature June 30, 1957, and will bear interest a t the rate o f 6 % per cent per annum from .June 30, 1925. payable semiannually on .lune 30 and December 31 o f each year. Principal and interest will b e payable, a t the option o f the holders, in the Borough of Manhattan, in tlie c i t y o f N e w York, a t the office of K u h n , Loeb & Co., o r a t the principal office o f Guaranty T r u s t Co. of N e w Y o r k , in gold coin of the United States o f A m e r i c a o f o r equal to the standard of weight and fineness existnig J u n e 30, 1925, o r in Santiago, Chile, at the office of the Caja, b y sight d r a f t on N e w Y o r k City, without deduction f o r any taxes, imposts, levies, o r duties o f any nature n o w o r a t any time hereafter imposed by the Republic o f Chile, o r b y a n y state, province, municipality, o r other taxing authority thereof o r therein, and will be paid in time o f w a r as well as in time o f peacc, a n d whether the holder b e a citiaen o r a resident of a friendly o r a hostile state. Beginning December 31, 1925, the bonds will b e redeemable through a cumulative sinking f u n d calculated t o retire the w h o l e issue b y June 30, 1957, to be applied on each semianmml interest d a t e to the ledemptioa by lot o f bonds at par. Notice o f redemption is t o b e given b y advertisement, the first advertisement to appear at least HO days before o a . h redemp ion date. The Caja will have the right to Increase the a m o u n t o f any sinking f u n d payment f o r the redemption o f additional bonds on any interest date, and in any such case appropriate reductions will be m a d e in subsequent sinking fund payments. T h i s right Is reserved because repayments on the mortgage loans can be made by the b o r r o w e r s either in cash o r in bonds o f the C a j a in excess o f the fixed minimum amortization payments, and the Caja is n o t permitted by law to h a v e its bonds outstanding in excess o f the mortgage loans against which they a r e issued. Application will be m a d e to list the b o n d s on the N e w Y o r k Stock Exchange. Yery truly yours, BKLTBAN MATHIEU, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Republic of Chile to the United States. $20,000,000 MoKTnAor, BANK OF CUIUS (Cma m Cntmvo HIPOTEOARIO. CUIUS) Guaranteed SINKINO-FCKU I'KH CKNT floui BONOS OF 1920, DUK JUNE 30,1901 Unconditionally guaranteed a s to principal, Interest and sinking fund, b y indorsement, by the Republic o f Chile. Coupon-taarer bonds in d e n o m i n a t i o n s of $1,000 and $500 each. Principal and interest to be p a y a b l e a t t h e option o f the Jiolders. in New Y o r k City, a t the office o f Kuhn, L o e b & C o . o r o f G u a r a n t y T r u s t Co. o f N e w York, iU United States gold coin o f o r e u a l - t o the standard o f w e i g h t and fineness e x i s t ing June 30.1926, o r in Santiago, Chile, nt the office o f the C a j a b y sight d r a f t 234 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, o n N e w Y o r k City, w i t h o u t deduction f o r a n y taxes, imposts, levies, or duties o f any n a t u r e n o w o r a t a n y time h e r e a f t e r imposed by the R e p u b l i c o f Chile o r b y a n y state, province, municipality, o r other t a x i n g authority thereof or therein and t o b e p a y a b l e in time o f w a r a s w e l l as in t i m e o f peace and w h e t h e r t h e holder b e a citizen o r a resident o f a f r i e n d l y o r a hostile state. I n t e r e s t p a y a b l e June 30 and December 31. F o r f u r t h e r i n f o r m a t i o n regarding this issue o f bonds, r e f e r e n c e is. made to t h e a c c o m p a n y i n g letter received f r o m H i s Excellency, t h e H o n . Miguel Cruchaga, a m b a s s a d o r e x t r a o r d i n a r y a n d plenipotentiary o f t h e Republic of C h i l e t o the United States, and f r o m w h i c h t h e f o l l o w i n g is s u m m a r i z e d : T h e b o n d s a r e to be unconditionally guaranteed a s t o principal, interest, and sinking f u n d , b y indorsement, b y the R e p u b l i c o f Chile, pursuant to the law of A u g u s t 29, 1855, creating the Caja, a s amended by decree l a w , dated December 1 5 , 1 9 2 5 , and pursuant t o decree l a w , dated M a r c h 9, 1925, a n d to decree of the P r e s i d e n t o f the R e p u b l i c of Chile, dated July 2 7 , 1 9 2 6 . Beginning December-31, 1926, the b o n d s will be redeemable through a cumulative sinking f u n d calculated to retire the w h o l e issue b y J u n e 30, 1961, to b e applied on each semiannual interest date to t h e redemption b y lot o f bonds a t par. T h e C a j a will h a v e the right to increase the amount, o f any sinking f u n d installment f o r the redemption of additional bonds on a n y interest date, and in a n y such case appropriate reductions will be m a d e in subsequent sinking f u n d installments. T h i s right is reserved because r e p a y m e n t s on the m o r t g a g e l o a n s to be m a d e by the Caja, against w h i c h these b o n d s a r e to be issued, can be made b y the b o r r o w e r s either in cash or i n b o n d s o f the Caja •in excess o f the fixed minimum amortization p a y m e n t s and t h e C a j a is n o t permitted b y l a w to have its bonds outstanding in excess o f t h e m o r t g a g e loans against which they are issued. Application will be m a d e in due course to list these b o n d s o n t h e N e w York 'Stock Exchange. T h e undersigned w i l l receive subscriptions f o r .$18,330,000 bonds, subject to allotment, at 9 9 % per cent and accrued interest t o date o f delivery* to yield o v e r 6.80 per cent to maturity. T h e mortgage bank is w i t h d r a w i n g the remaining $1,070,000 b o n d s f o r its reserve f u n d . T h e undersigned reserve the right to close t h e subscription a t any t i m e without notice, to r e j e c t a n y application, to allot a smaller a m o u n t than applied for, and to m a k e allotments in their uncontrolled discretion. T h e a b o v e bonds a r e offered if, w h e n and as issued and received by the undersigned, and subject to the approval o f counsel. I n the first instance, interim certificates o f Guaranty T r u s t Co. o f N e w Y o r k w i l l b e delivered against payment in N e w Y o r k f u n d s f o r bonds allotted, w h i c h interim certificates will be exchangeable f o r definitive bonds w h e n prepared. NEW YORK, July 29, 1926. GUARANTY C o . OF NEW K U H N , LOEB & C o . YORK, WASHINGTON, D . U., July 29, 192ti. ^Messrs. K U H N , LOEB & C o . a n d GUARANTY C o . OF NEW YORK, New York. DEAR SIRS: R e f e r r i n g to the issue o f §20,000,000 principal amount o f guaranteed sinking-fund 6 % per cent gold b o n d s o f 1926, due J u n e 30, 1961, of the M o r t g a g e B a n k o f Chile ( C a j a d e Credito H i p o t e c a r i o , C h i l e ) , o f which you h a v e agreed t o p u r c h a s e $18,330,000, the C a j a w i t h d r a w i n g the balance of $1,670,000 f o r its reserve f u n d , I beg t o give y o u the f o l l o w i n g i n f o r m a t i o n : T h e b o n d s a r e to be unconditionally guaranteed a s t o principal, interest, and sinking f u n d b y indorsement by the R e p u b l i c o f Chile, pursuant to the l a w c r e a t i n g the C a j a , a s a m e n d e d b y decree l a w dated D e c e m b e r 15, 1925, a n d p u r s u a n t t o decree l a w dated M a r c h 9, 1925, and to d e c r e e o f the President o f t h e R e p u b l i c o f Chile dated July 27, 1926. T h e C a j a d e Credito H i p o t e c a r i o w a s created b y law* o f August 29, 1855, f o r the p u r p o s e o f m a k i n g available credit facilities on reasonable terms for the d e v e l o p m e n t a n d i m p r o v e m e n t o f real p r o p e r t y in Chile. T h e board of directors, the president o f the b o a r d , t h e c h i e f counsel, the cashier, the comptroller, a n d the s e c r e t a r y a r e appointed b y t h e President o f t h e Republic. SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 235 During its entire existence of o v e r 70 y e a r s the C a j a has operated successfully and has never failed to meet its obligations. T h e record of its loan collections is very satisfactory. T h e losses incurred by the C a j a on property foreclosed under its mortgages have n o t exceeded $40,000 in the aggregate for the hist 10 years. In his rei>ort, published February 1, 1024, to the Department of Commerce of the United States, Mr. Charles A. McQueen, speciul agent o f the Bureau o f Foreign and Domestic Commerce o f the department, states that In the course o f its long existence the C a j a litis conducted its affairs with uniform safety and success. The Caja has no capital stock aiul is not o|»erated f o r p r o f i t I t lias power to charge a commission to provide f o r Its cx|x»nses and f o r a reserve fund a s additional security f o r its bonds, but, having accumulated a sufficient reserve, the Caja has now discontinued charging such commission. The Caja issues its bonds only against mortgages registered hi its name. It makes only first-mortgage loans. Tlie loans are made on a conservative basis and the risk is greatly diversified. On December 31, 1925, the C a j a had outstanding various issues of Iwmds aggregating $100,210,000, at gold par o f exchange, against which it had m a d e 10,19s mortgage loans, being an average of less than $10,000 i»er loan. T h e s e loans aggregated less than 25 per cent of the aggregate appraised i m p r o v e d value o f the pro|»ertles mortgaged as security therefor. A s further security f o r its bonds the Caja has accumulated a reserve fund of approximately $5,028,450 at gold par of exchange. The law authorizes the C a j a to insue l>onds and to make mortgage loans IMiyable in foreign currencies. It Is the practice of the Caja to make its mortgage loans, against which bonds imyable in a foreign currency are issued, also payable in the same currency, except In cases where it has obtained a guaranty of the Republic o f Chile f o r any loss resulting f r o m exchange fluctuations. T h i s w a s done in 1012 when Fes. 58,823.500 gold bonds were issued ( o f which there a r c still Fes. 27,982,500 gold n o w outstanding) and in 1925 when $20,000,000 United States gold bonds were issued in the United States by you. The mortgage loans against $5,000.1)00 o f the present issue will be made at the request o f the Republic nf Chile f o r special puri>oses at lower interest rates than the C a j a is p a y i n g on the bonds and the Republic has agreed to pay the difference and to guarantee those mortgage loans. T h e entire present issue of bonds will also be guarantee*I b y endorsement b y the Republic of Chile. The bonds of the Caja a r e legal Investments f o r savings banks and trust funds in Chile. Prior to the war, in 1911 and 1912. three Issues of 5 per cent bonds o f the Caja, not indorsed with the guaranty o f the Government, were made in Europe, at prices f r o m 9 0 % to 9 9 % i>er cent. T h e s e Issues a r e listed on the stock exchanges of Paris and Berlin. The present debt of the R e p u b l i c o f Chile, Including the present and all other obligations guaranteed by it. aggregates about $270,000,000, at gold par of exchange. T h e proceeds o f the Government loans have been largely used for the construction o r improvement o f railways, harbors, and other public works. T h e Government o w n s 3,024 miles o f railroads, telegraph lines, and other property, o f an estimated value o f approximately $650,000,000, at gold par of exchange, which is well in excess o f the entire amount of the debt. In addition, the Government o w n s l a r g e and very valuable tracts o f nitrate lands. Chile is a mining and agricultural country. Its mineral products are largely raw materials f o r essential industries. Exports consist chiefly o f nitrates, by-products of the nitrate industry, copj>er, b o r a x , wool, and a limited amount of agricultural products. T h e nitrate deposits are the only large natural deposits so f a r discovered in the w o r l d . T h e copjwr industry has been extensively developed, largely b y American capital. Tlie trade balance o f Chile Is favorable. T h e total foreign trade f o r 1924 (the last year f o r which official figures are available) aggregated $352,000,000 at the present gold parity o f exchange, and the balance o f e x p o r t s o v e r imports amounted to $86,000,000. Since 1915 imports have exceeded exports in only one year. Chile is on a gold basis. Its currency is tlie peso, equivalent to United States $0.12166. Currency notes a r e Issued b y the central bank of Chile, similar t o tlie Federal reserve banks o f the United States. The above-mentioned $20,000,000 principal a m o u n t o f guaranteed sinking f u n d per cent gold bonds o f 1926 of the C a j a , constituting the l o a n designated Emprestlto o r o Caja Hipotecaria, 1926, will be in coupon-bearer f o r m , in d e n o m - 236 SALE'••OF FOREIGN BONDS ?OR SECURITIES i n a t i o n s o f $1,000 and $500, will b e dated June 30, 1926, w i l l m a t u r e June 30, 1961, a n d w i l l b e a r interest a t t b e rate o f 6 % p e r c e n t p e r a n n u m f r o m J u n e 30, 1926, p a y a b l e semiannually on June 30 a n d D e c e m b e r 31 of each year. P r i n c i p a l a n d interest w i l l b e p a y a b l e a t t h e option of t h e holders, in the b o r o u g h o f Manhattan, in the city o f N e w Y o r k , a t the office o f K u h n , Loeb & Co., o r a t the principal office of G u a r a n t y T r u s t Co. of N e w Y o r k , in gold cola o f the United States o f A m e r i c a of o r equal to the standard o f w e i g h t and finen e s s e x i s t i n g J u n e 30, 1926, o r in Santiago, Chile, at the office o f the Caja, by sight d r a f t o n N e w Y o r k City, w i t h o u t deduction f o r any taxes, imposts, levies, o r duties o f a n y nature n o w o r at any time h e r e a f t e r imposed b y the Republic o f Chile, o r b y a n y State, Province, municipality o r other t a x i n g authority thereof o r therein, and w i l l be paid in time of w a r a s well as i n time o f peace, a n d w h e t h e r the holder be a citizen o r a resident of a friendly o r a hostile state. B e g i n n i n g D e c e m b e r 31,1926, the bonds will be redeemable through a cumulat i v e sinking f u n d calculated to retire the w h o l e issue by J u n e 30, 1961, to be applied on e a c h semiannual interest date to the redemption b y lot o f bonds at par. N o t i c e of redemption is to be given b y advertisement, t h e first advertisem e n t t o appear at least 30 days b e f o r e each redemption date. T h e C a j a will h a v e t h e right to increase the amount of a n y sinking-fund installment f o r the redemption of additional bonds on any interest, date, a n d i n a n y such case appropriate reductions w i l l b e m a d e i n subsequent sinking-fund installments. T h i s r i g h t is reserved because repayments on the m o r t g a g e l o a n s c a n be made b y the b o r r o w e r s either in cash o r in bonds of t h e C a j a in e x c e s s o f t h e fixed m i n i m u m amortization payments and the C a j a i s n o t permitted b y l a w to have its b o n d s outstanding in excess o f the mortgage l o a n s against w h i c h they are issued. Application will b e m a d e in due course to l i s t the bonds o n t h e N e w York Stock Exchange. V e r y truly yours, MIGUEL CBUCHAGA, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Republic of Chile to the United States. $10,000,000 MORTGAGE BANK OF CHILE (CAJA DE CR£MTO HIPOTECARIO, CHILE) GUARANTEED 5-YKAR 6 PER CENT AGRICULTURAL GOLD NOTES OF 1 9 2 6 r DUB DECEMBEBK 31, 1931. UNCONDITIONALLY GUARANTEED, BY INDORSEMENT, BY THE REPUBLIC OF CHILE, AS TO PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST—NOT REDEEMABLE BEFORE MATURITY Coupon bearer notes in denomination of $1,000 each. Principal and interest t o be payable at the option o f the holders, in N e w Y o r k City a t office o f Kuhn, L o e b & Co. o r o f Guaranty T r u s t Co. o f New Y o r k , in United States gold coin o f o r equal to the standard o f w e i g h t and fineness existing D e c e m b e r 31, 1926, o r in Santiago, Chile, a t the office of the C a j a b y sight d r a f t on N e w York City, w i t h o u t deduction f o r any taxes, imposts, levies, o r d u t i e s o f any nature n o w o r a t a n y time h e r e a f t e r imposed b y t h e R e p u b l i c o f Chile o r by any State, Province, municipality, o r other t a x i n g authority t h e r e o f o r therein a n d t o b e p a y a b l e in time o f w a r a s well as i n time o f p e a c e and whether t h e h o l d e r b e a citizen o r a resident o f a f r i e n d l y o r a hostile state. Interest p a y a b l e June 30 and D e c e m b e r 3 L F o r f u r t h e r i n f o r m a t i o n regarding this issue o f notes, r e f e r e n c e is m a d e to t h e a c c o m p a n y i n g letter received f r o m his excellency the H o n . Miguel Crucbaga, a m b a s s a d o r e x t r a o r d i n a r y and plenipotentiary o f the R e p u b l i c o f Chile t o the U n i t e d States, w h o h a s authorized the f o l l o w i n g statement : T h e notes a r e t o b e unconditionally guaranteed, b y indorsement, b y the R e p u b l i c o f Chile, a s to principal and interest, a n d a r e b e i n g issued f o r the p u r p o s e o f m a k i n g l o a n s secured b y agricultural products o r implements, which loans, a s p r o v i d e d b y l a w , m a y n o t exceed 50 p e r cent o f t h e e s t i m a t e d value o f t h e collateral. T h e undersigned o f f e r t h e above notes, subject to p r i o r sale, a t 9 8 % per cent arid accrued interest to d a t e o f delivery, to yield a b o u t 6.30 p e r cent a t maturity. T h e a b o v e notes a r e o f f e r e d if, w h e n , a n d a s issued and, received b y the undersigned, a n d s u b j e c t t o t h e approval o f counsel. I n t h e first instance, i n t e r i m certificates o f G u a r a n t y T r u s t Co. o f N e w Y o r k w i l l b e delivered SALE OF FOHEIGX B O N D S Oil S K C U l l I T I E S 237 a g a i n s t p a y m e n t In N e w Y o r k fund** f o r n o t e s a l l o t t e d , w h l e l i i n t e r i m certificates w i l l b e e x c h a n g e a b l e f o r d e f i n i t i v e n o t e s w h e n p r e p a r e d . K I M I N , LOKD & C o . CUWUANTY C o . OF NEW NEW YORK, Dcccmber 22, W A S H I N G T O N D . C. F Messrs. KUHN, Lom YORK. 1926, December 22, 1926. & C o . a n d GUARANTY CO. OF NKW YOBK, Xcw York. DEAB SIRS: R e f e r r i n g t o t h e tesue o f $10,000,000 p r i n c i p a l a m o u n t o f g u a r a n teed 5 - y e a r G p e r c e n t a g r i c u l t u r a l g o l d n o t e s o f 1020, d u e D e c e m b e r 3 i , 1031, of the M o r t g a g e B a n k o f C h i l e ( C a j a d e C r & H t o HijJotecario, C h i l e ) , I b e g to g i v e y o u t h e f o l l o w i n g i n f o r m a t i o n : T h e n o t e s a r e t o b e u n c o n d i t i o n a l l y g u a r a n t e e d b y i n d o r s e m e n t , b y the R e p u b l i c o f C h i l e , a s t o p r i n c i p a l n n d i n t e r e s t a n d a r e to b e Issued in a c c o r d ance w i t h t h e l a w o f t h e R e p u b l i c o f C h i l e , d a t e d A u g u s t 20, l&r»5, establishing the C a j a , a s a m e n d e d b y t h e d e c r e e l a w d a t e d D e c e m b e r 15, 1025 ( w h i c h decree l a w w a s d u l y a p p r o v e d b y t h e c o m m i s s i o n a p p o i n t e d f o r t h a t purpose by both H o u s e s o f C o n g r e s s ) , w i t h t h e l a w N o . 4074, d a t e d J u l y 27, 1020, with decrees N o . 834, d a t e d N o v e m b e r 17, 1020, a n d N o . 008, d a t e d Deeem»>er 16, 1020, a n d w i t h t h e d e c r e e o f t h e P r e s i d e n t o f t h e R e p u b l i c o f Chile, d a t e d D e c e m b e r 22, 1020, f o r t h e p u r p o s e nf m a k i n g l o a n s s e c u r e d b y a g r i c u l t u r a l p r o d u c t s o r i m p l e m e n t s , w h i c h l o a n s m a y n o t e x c e e d 5 0 p e r c e n t o f tlie estimated v a l u e o f t h e c o l l a t e r a l . Tlie C a j a d e C r e d i t o I l i p o t e c a r i o w a s c r e a t e d b y l a w o f A u g u s t 20, 18,15, f o r the p u r p o s e o f m a k i n g a v a i l a b l e c r e d i t f a c i l i t i e s o n r e a s o n a b l e t e r m s f o r tlie d e v e l o p m e n t n n d i m p r o v e m e n t o f r e a l p r o p e r t y In Chile. T h e b o a r d o f directors, t h e p r e s i d e n t o f t h e b o a r d , t h e c h i e f c o u n s e l , t h e cashier, t h e c o n troller a n d the s e c r e t a r y a r e a p p o i n t e d b y t h e P r e s i d e n t o f t h e R e p u b l i c . D u r i n g its e n t i r e e x i s t e n c e o f o v e r 7 0 y e a r s , t h e C a j a h a s o p e r a t e d successfully a n d h a s n e v e r f a i l e d t o m e e t i t s o b l i g a t i o n s . T h e r e c o r d o f Its loan collections i s v e r y s a t i s f a c t o r y . T h e l o s s e s I n c u r r e d b y t h e C a j a on p r o p e r t y foreclosed u m l c r i t s m o r t g a g e s h a v e n o t e x c e e d e d $40,000 i n the a g g r e g a t e f o r the last ten y e a r s . The Caja has n o capital s t o c k a n d is n o t operated f o r p r o f i t I t has power t o c h a r g e a c o m m i s s i o n t o p r o v i d e f o r i t s e x p e n s e s a n d f o r a reserve f u n d , a s additional s e c u r i t y f o r i t s b o n d s n n d n o t e s , b u t h a v i n g a c c u m u l a t e d a s u f ficient reserve, t h e C a j a h a s n o w d i s c o n t i n u e d c h a r g i n g such c o m m i s s i o n . On D e c e m b e r 31, 1025, t h e C a j a l m d o u t s t a n d i n g v a r i o u s issues o f b o n d s aggregating $ 1 0 0 2 1 9 , 0 0 0 , a t g o l d p u r o f e x c h a n g e , a g a i n s t w h i c h it h a d m a d e 10,19S m o r t g a g e l o a n s , b e i n g a n a v e r a g e o f l e s s , t h a n $10,000 per l o a n . T h e s e loans a g g r e g a t e d l e s s t h a n 2 5 p e r c e n t of t h e a g g r e g a t e appraised i m p r o v e d value of t h e p r o p e r t i e s m o r t g a g e d a s s e c u r i t y t h e r e f o r . A s f u r t h e r security f o r Its b o n d s and n o t e s , t h e C a j a h a s a c c u m u l a t e d a r e s e r v e f u n d o f a p p r o x i m a t e l y $5,028,450, a t g o l d p a r o f e x c h a n g e . The bonds and n o t e s o f the C a j a a r e legal Investments f o r savings banks and trust f u n d s In C h i l e . P r i o r t o t h e w a r , i n 1911 a m i 1912, t h r e e tones o f 5 p e r c e n t b o n d s of the Caja, n o t i n d o r s e d w i t h t h e g u a r a n t y o f tlie g o v e r n m e n t w e r e m a d e in Europe a t p r i c e s f r o m 9 0 % t o 99*4 p e r c e n t . T h e s e issues a r e listed on t h e stock e x c h a n g e s o f P a r i s a n d B e r l i n . T h e p r e s e n t d e b t o f t h e R e p u b l i c o f C h i l e , i n c l u d i n g t h e p r e s e n t a n d all o t h e r obligations g u a r a n t e e d b y it, a g g r e g a t e s a b o u t $298,000,000, a t g o l d p a r o f exchange. T h e p r o c e e d s o f t h e G o v e r n m e n t l o a n s h a v e been l a r g e l y used f o r the c o n s t r u c t i o n o r i m p r o v e m e n t o f r a i l w a y s , h a r b o r s , a n d o t h e r p u b l i c w o r k s . T h e G o v e r n m e n t o w n s 3.624 m i l e s o f r a i l r o a d s , t e l e g r a p h lines, a n d o t h e r p r o p erty, o f a n e s t i m a t e d v a l u e o f a p p r o x i m a t e l y $050,000,000, a t g o l d p a r o f exchange. Chile Is a m i n i n g a n d a g r i c u l t u r a l c o u n t r y . I t s m i n e r a l p r o d u c t s a r c l a r g e l y raw materials f o r essential industries. E x p o r t s c o n s i s t chiefly o f nitrates, by-prodnets o f t h e n i t r a t e I n d u s t r y , c o p p e r , liorax, w o o l , a n d a limited a m o u n t of a g r i c u l t u r a l p r o d u c t s . T h e l a r g e s t k n o w n c o p p e r d e p o s i t s in t h e w o r l d a r e in Chile. T h e y o c c u r n e a r t h e s u r f a c e a n d a r e o f e x c e p t i o n a l l y high quality, resulting i n t h e l o w e s t c o s t p r o d u c t i o n o f a n y l a r g e - s c a l e c o p p e r p r o d u c i n g 92928—31-HPT 1 16 238 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, area in the w o r l d . T h e s e deposits a r e being e x t e n s i v e l y d e v e l o p e d , m a i n l y by A m e r i c a n capital. Chile's total f o r e i g n trade f o r 1925 a g g r e g a t e d $376,000,000 at t h e present g o l d parity o f exchange, and the balance o f e x p o r t s o v e r i m p o r t s amounted to $78,000,000. T h e average annual f a v o r a b l e t r a d e b a l a n c e f o r the s i x years, 1920 t o 1925, w a s $69,000,000. Chile is on a gold basis. Its c u r r e n c y is the peso, equivalent t o U n i t e d States $0.12166. Currency notes are issued b y the Central B a n k o f Chile, similar to the Federal reserve banks o f the United States. T h e above-mentioned $10,000,000 principal a m o u n t of g u a r a n t e e d 5-year 6 per cent agricultural gold notes o f 1926 of the C a j a will b e in coupon-bearer form, in the denomination of $1,000, will b e dated D e c e m b e r 31, 1926, will mature D e c e m b e r 31, 1931, w i l l not be redeemable b e f o r e their maturity, and .will bear interest at the rate of 6 per cent per a n n u m f r o m D e c e m b e r 31, 1926, payable semiannually on J u n e 30 and D e c e m b e r 31 o f e a c h y e a r . Principal and interest will be payable at the option o f t h e holders, in the borough of Manhattan, in the city of N e w Y o r k , at the office o f K u h n , L o e b & Co.. or a t the principal office of Guaranty Trust Co. o f N e w Y o r k , in g o l d coin of the United States of America of o r equal to the s t a n d a r d o f w e i g h t a n d fineness existing December 31, 1926, or in Santiago, Chile, at the office o f the Caja, b y sight d r a f t on N e w Y o r k City, without deduction f o r a n y taxes, imposts, levies, o r duties of any nature n o w or at any . time h e r e a f t e r i m p o s e d by the R e p u b l i c of Chile, ' o r b y any state, province, m u n i c i p a l i t y , or o t h e r taxing authority thereof or therein, a n d will be paid in time o f w a r a s w e l l a s ia time of peace, and whether the h o l d e r be a citizen o r a r e s i d e n t o f a friendly o r a hostile state. Y e r y truly yours, MIGUEL CBUCHAGA. Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Republics of Chile to the United States. $20,000,000 MORTGAGE BANK OF CHILE (CAJA DE CK£DITO HIPOTECARIO, CHILE) GUARANTEED SINKING FUND 6 PER CENT GOLD BONDS OF 1928, DUE APRIL 30. 1961 UNCONDITIONALLY GUARANTEED AS TO PRINCIPAL, INTEREST, AND SINKING FUND, BY INDORSEMENT, BY THE REPUBLIC OF CHILE Coupon bearer bonds in denominations of $1,000 a n d $500 each. Principal and interest will be payable at the option o f the holders, i n N e w Y o r k City a t the office of Kuhn, L o e b & Co. o r o f G u a r a n t y T r u s t C o . o f N e w York, in United States gold coin of o r equal t o the s t a n d a r d of w e i g h t a n d fineness existing A p r i l 30, 1928, o r in Santiago, Chile, at the office of the C a j a , b y s i g h t d r a f t on N e w Y o r k City, without deduction f o r a n y taxes, i m p o s t s , levies, o r duties o f any nature n o w o r at any t i m e h e r e a f t e r imposed b y the R e p u b l i c o f Chile, o r b y a n y State, Province, municipality, o r o t h e r t a x i n g a u t h o r i t y thereof or therein, and will be paid in time o f w a r as well a s in time o f p e a c e a n d whether the holder be a citizen o r a resident o f a f r i e n d l y o r a hostile S t a t e . Interest payable April 30 and October 31. F o r f u r t h e r i n f o r m a t i o n regarding this issue of b o n d s r e f e r e n c e is made t o t h e accompanying letter received f r o m H i s E x c e l l e n c y t h e H o n . Carlos G. Davila, ambassador e x t r a o r d i n a r y and plenipotentiary o f the R e p u b l i c o f Chile to the United States, and f r o m which the f o l l o w i n g is s u m m a r i z e d : T h e b o n d s are to be unconditionally g u a r a n t e e d a s t o p r i n c i p a l , interest, and sinking fund, b y indorsement b y the R e p u b l i c o f Chile, a n d a r e to be issued in a c c o r d a n c e with the l a w o f the R e p u b l i c o f C h i l e , d a t e d A u g u s t 29, 1855, establishing the C a j a , a s a m e n d e d b y d e c r e e l a w , d a t e d D e c e m b e r 15, 1925, w h i c h w a s duly approved b y the c o m m i s s i o n a p p o i n t e d f o r that purpose b y both H o u s e s o f Congress, and w i t h the decree L a w N o . 308 o f M a r c h 9,1925, and w i t h the decree o f the President o f the R e p u b l i c o f C h i l e , d a t e d January 31, 1928« , " B e g i n n i n g October 31, 1928, the bonds will b e r e d e e m a b l e t h r o u g h a cumulative sinking f u n d calculated t o retire t h e w h o l e issue b y A p r i l 3 0 . 1 9 6 1 , to be applied o n e a c h semiannual interest d a t e t o the r e d e m p t i o n b y tot o f bonds at par. T h e C a j a will h a v e the r i g h t to i n c r e a s e the a m o u n t o f a n y sinking-fund S A L E OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 239 installment f o r the r e d e m p t i o n o f a d d i t i o n a l bonds on any interest date, and in any such cnsa a p p r o p r i a t e r e d u c t i o n s will !>c m a d e in subsequent sinkingfund installm* nts. T h i s right i s reserved b e c a u s e repayments on the mortgage loans to ht> m a d e b y the C a j a . a g a i n s t w h i c h these b o n d s a r e to be issued, can be m a d e b y the b o r r o w e r s e i t h e r in c a s h o r in Iwmds o f the C a j a in excess o f the fixed m i n i m u m a m o r t i z a t i o n p a y m e n t s and the C a j a Is n o t permitted b y law t o h a v e Its Itomls o u t s t a n d i n g In o f the m o r t g a g e loans against which they a r e issued. " A p p l i c a t i o n w i l l b e m a d e in d u e c o u r s e to list these bonds 011 the New York Stock E x c h a n g e / ' T h e undersigned w i l l r e c e i v e s u b s c r i p t i o n s f o r the a b o v e bonds, subject to allotment, a t 95-}J p e r c e n t a n d a c c r u e d Interest t o d a t e o f delivery, to yield over 6.30 p e r cent t o m a t u r i t y . T h e undersigned r e s e r v e t h e right t o c l o s e the subscription a t any time without notice, to r e j e c t a n y application* t o nllot a smaller amount than applied for, and to m a k e a l l o t m e n t s In t h e i r u n c o n t r o l l e d discretion. T h e a b o v e b o n d s a r e o f f e r e d i f , w h e n a n d a s Issued and received by the undersigned. and s u b j e c t t o the a p p r o v a l o f c o u n s c l . In the first instance, interim certificates of G u a r a n t y T r u s t C o . o f N e w Y o r k will b e delivered against payment in N e w Y o r k f u n d s f o r b o n d s allotted, which Interim certificates will be exchangeable f o r d e f i n i t i v e b o n d s w h e n prepared, KCHN\ LOEB & C o . GUARANTY CO. OF NEW YOUR. T H E NATIONAL CITV CO. NEW YORK. April SO, IMS. WASHINGTON, D . C., April SO, 1028. DEAR SIRS : R e f e r r i n g t o t h e issue o f $20,000,000 principal amount o f guaranteed sinking f u n d 0 p e r c e n t g o l d b o n d s o f 1928, d u e April 30, 1961, of the mortgage bank o f C h i l e ( C a j a d e C r & l l t o Hipotecario. C h i l e ) , which you have agreed t o purchase, I lw?g t o g i v e y o u t h e f o l l o w i n g i n f o r m a t i o n : The bonds a r e t o b e u n c o n d i t i o n a l l y g u a r a n t e e d a s to principal, interest, and sinking f u n d , b y i n d o r s e m e n t , b y t h e R e p u b l i c o f Chile, and are to be issued in a c c o r d a n c e w i t h t h e l a w o f the R e p u b l i c o f Chile, dated August 29. 1855, establishing t h e C a j a , a s a m e n d e d b y d e c r e e l a w , dated December 15, 1925, which w a s d u l y a p p r o v e d b y the c o m m i s s i o n appointed f o r that purpose by both houses o f C o n g r e s s , a n d w i t h the decree l a w No, 308 of March 9, 1925, and w i t h the d e c r e e o f the P r e s i d e n t o f the R e p u b l i c of Chile dated January 31, 1928. T h e C a j a d e C r M l t o H i p o t e c a r i o w a s created f o r the purpose o f making available c r e d i t f a c i l i t i e s 011 r e a s o n a b l e t e r m s f o r the development and Improvement o f real p r o p e r t y In C h i l e . T h e b o a r d o f directors, tlie president of the board, the c h i e f c o u n s e l , t h e c a s h i e r , t h e controller, and the secretary are appointed b y t h e P r e s i d e n t o f the R e p u b l i c . During i t s e n t i r e e x i s t e n c e o f o v e r 7 0 y e a r s , the C a j a has operated successfully and h a s n e v e r f a i l e d t o m e e t Its obligations. T h e record o f its loan collections is v e r y s a t i s f a c t o r y . T h e losses incurred b y the C a j a on property foreclosed u n d e r i t s m o r t g a g e s h a v e n o t e x c e e d e d $40,000 in the aggregate f o r the last 10 y e a r s . T h e C a j a h a s n o c a p i t a l s t o c k a n d i s n o t o p e r a t e d f o r p r o f i t It has power to charge a c o m m i s s i o n t o p r o v i d e f o r Its e x p e n s e s a n d f o r a reserve fund, a> additional s e c u r i t y f o r i t s b o n d s a n d notes, but h a v i n g accumulated a sufficient reserve, t h e C a j a h a s n o w d i s c o n t i n u e d c h a r g i n g such commission. On D e c e m b e r 31, 1927, t h e C a j a h a d o u t s t a n d i n g v a r i o u s issues of bonds aggregating $126,846,150 a t g o l d p a r o f e x c h a n g e a n d an issue o f $10,000,000 of notes. T h e C a j a Issues i t s b o n d s o n l y a g a i n s t first m o r t g a g e s registered in its name. On D e c e m b e r 31, 1927, t h e C a j a had m a d e against its outstanding bonds 11,754 m o r t g a g e l o a n s , b e i n g a n a v e r a g e o f less than $1,000 per loan, and these l o a n s a g g r e g a t e d l e s s than 2 5 p e r cent o f t h e aggregate appraised improved v a l u e o f t h e p r o p e r t i e s m o r t g a g e d a s security therefor. Against its notes the C a j a h a d o n t h a t (late m a d e 2,572 loans, being a n a v e r a g e o f less than $5,000 p e r l o a n . A11 i t s l o a n s a r e m a d e on a c o n s e r v a t i v e basis and the risk is g r e a t l y d i v e r s i f i e d . A s f u r t h e r security* f o r its b o n d s and notes the Caja h a s a c c u m u l a t e d n r e s e r v e f u n d o f a p p r o x i m a t e l y $5,028,450 a t g o l d p a r bf exchange. 240 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, T h e l a w authorizes the Caja to issue bonds and to make mortgage loans payable in foreign currencies. I t is the practice of the Caja to make its mortgage loans, against which bonds payable in a foreign currency are issued, also payable in tlie same currency, except in cases where it has obtained a guaranty of the Republic of Chile f o r any loss resulting f r o m exchange fluctuations. This w a s done in 1912 when Fes. 58,823,500 gold bonds were issued ( o f which there are still Fes. 25,000,000 gold now outstanding) and in 1925 and 1926 when $40,000,000 United States gold bonds and $10 000,000 5-year United States gold notes were issued in the United States by you, and is also being done in the case of the present issue, against $12,000,000 of which mortgage loans in Chilean currency „ will be outstanding. T h e mortgage loans against $8,000,000 of the present issue will be made at the request of the Republic of Chile f o r construction purposes at lower interest rates than the Caja is paying on tlie bonds and the Republic has agreed to pay ihe difference and to guarantee those mortgage loans. T h e entire present issue, of bonds will also be guaranteed by indorsement by the Republic of Chile. T h e bonds and notes of the Caja are legal investments f o r savings banks and trust funds in Chile. Prior to the war, in 1911 and 1912, three issues of 5 per cent bonds of the Caja, not indorsed with the guaranty of the government, were made in Europe, at prices f r o m 96*4 to 991/4 per cent. These issues are listed on the stock exchanges of Paris and Berlin. T h e present debt of the Republic of Chile, including the present and all other obligations guaranteed by it, aggregates about $356,000,000 at gold par of exchange. The proceeds of the government loans have been largely used f o r the construction o r improvement of railways, harbors, and other public works. The government owns 3,390 miles of railroads, telegraph lines and other property, of an estimated value of approximately $650,000,000 at gold par of exchange. Chile is a mining and agricultural country. Its mineral products are largely raw materials f o r essential industries. Exports consist chiefly of nitrates, byproducts of the nitrate industry, copper, borax, wool, and a limited amount of agricultural products. The largest known copper deposits in the world are in Chile. They occur near the surface and are of exceptionally high quality, resulting in the lowest cost production of any large scale copper producing area In the world. These deposits are being extensively developed, mainly by American capital. The trade balance of Chile is favorable. Tlie total foreign trade for 1927 aggregated $336,000,000 at the present gold parity of exchange and the balance of exports over imports amounted to $75,000,000. Since 1915 imports have exceeded exports in only one year. Chile is on a gold basis. Its currency is the peso, equivalent to U. S. $0.12166. Currency notes are issued by the Central Bank of Chile, similar t o the Federal reserve banks of the United States. T h e above-mentioned $20,000,000 principal amount of guaranteed sinking fund 6 per cent gold bonds of 1928 of the Caja, constituting the loan designated Emprestito o r o Caja Hipotecaria, 1928, will be in coupon bearer form, in denominations o f $1,000 and $500, will be dated April 30, 1928, will mature April 30, 1961, and will bear interest at the rate of 6 per cent per annum f r o m April 30, 1928, payable semiannually on April 30 and October 31 of each year. Principal and interest will be payable at the option of the holders, in the Borough of Manhattan, in the city of New York, a t the office of Kuhn, Loeb & Co., or at the principal office of Guaranty Trust Co. of New York, in gold coin of the United States of America of o r equal to the standard of weight and fineness existing April 30, 1928, o r in Santiago, Chile, at tlie office of the Caja, by sight d r a f t on N e w York City, without deduction f o r any taxes, imposts, levies, or duties o f any nature n o w o r at any time hereafter imposed by the Republic of Chile, o r by any State, Province, municipality, or other taxing authority thereof o r therein, and will be paid in time of w a r as well as in time of peace and whether the holder be a citizen or a resident of a friendly or a hostile State. Beginning October 31, 1928, the bonds will be redeemable through a cumulative sinking f u n d calculated to retire the whole i.-sue by April 30, 1961, to be applied on each semiannual interest date to the redemption by lot of bonds at par. Notice o f redemption is to be given by advertisement, the first advertisement to appear at least 30 days before each redemption date. T h e Caja will have the right to increase the amount of any sinking f u n d installment f o r the redemption of additional bonds on any interest date, and in any such case appropriate reductions will be m a d e in subsequent sinking f u n d installments* SALE OK FOliEIGX BONDS 01! SECU1UTIES 241 This right is reserved because repayments on the mortgage loans can he made by the»borrowers either in cash or in bonds of the Caja in excess of the fixed miniinum amortization payments and the Caja is not ]>ermltted by law to have its bonds outstanding in excess nf the mortgage loans against which they are issued. Application will he made in due course to lint the bonds on the New York Stock Exchange. Very truly your*. ('ATTLOS G. 1) A VILA, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Jtcpubtic of Chile to the United Stales. $20,000,000 MOIOVAOE BANK OF CHILE (CAJA DK CAFCURRO HIPOTECAIUO, CHILE) GUABAXTUAI SINKING KUM> 0 PER CKNT GOLD BONDS OP 1 0 2 0 ; D U E M A Y 1 , 1902 Unconditionally guaranteed as to prlncii>al, interest, and sinking fund, by indorsement by the Republic of Chile. Coupon bearer bonds in denomination o f $1,000 and $500 each. Principal *nd interest payable, at the option o f the holders, in New York City at the office of Kuhn, Loeb & Co. or of Guaranty Trust Co. of New York, in United States gold coin of or equal to the standard of weight and fineness existing May 1, 1929, or in Santiago, Chile, at the office o f the Caja, by sight d r a f t on New York City, without deduction f o r any taxes, imposts, levies, o r duties of any nature now or at any time hereafter imiwsed by the Republic o f Chile, or by any state, province, municipality, or other taxing authority thereof o r therein, and payable in time of w a r as well as in time of peace and whether the holder be a citizen or a resident of a friendly o r a hostile state. Interest payable May 1 and November 1, For further information regarding this issue of bonds, reference Is made to the accompanying letter f r o m his excellency, Carlos G. Davila, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of tbe Republic of Chile to the United States, from which the following is s u m m a r i s e d : " T h e bonds a r c to l»e unconditionally guaranteed a s to principal, interest, and sinking fund, by indorsement by the Republic of Chile, and are to be issued in accordance with the law of the Republic o f Chile, dated August 29, 1855, establishing the Caja, as amended by decree law No. 743, dated December 15, 1925, which was duly approved by the commission appointed f o r that purpose by both houses o f Congress, and with l a w No. 4074, dated July 27, 1920, as amended by law No. 4327, dated March 20, 1928, and with the decree of the President of the Republic of Chile. No. 2004, dated June 25, 1929. " T h e Bonds will be redeemable through a cumulative sinking fund beginning November 1, 1020, calculated to retire the entire issue by May 1, 1002, to be applied on each semiannual interest, date to the redemption o f bonds by lot at par. The Caja will have the right to increase the amount of any sinking fund installment f o r the redemption of additional bonds on any interest date and in any such case appropriate reductions may be made in subsequent sinking fund installments. "Application will be made in due course to list these bonds on the N e w York Stock Exchange." The undersigned will receive subscriptions f o r the a t o v c bonds, subject to allotment, at J«2 per ccnt and accrued interest to date "of delivery, to yield about 0.6 per cent to maturity. The undersigned reserve the right to close the subscription at any time without notice, to reject any application, to allot a smaller amount than applied for and to make allotments in their uncontrolled discretion. The above bonds are offered if, when, and as Issued and received by the undersigned and subject to the approval o f counsel. In the first instance, interim certificates o f Guaranty T r u s t Co. of New Y o r k will be delivered against payment in New York f u n d s f o r bonds allotted, which interim certificates will be exchangeable f o r definite bonds when prepared. K U H N , LOEB & C A GUABANTY CO. OK NEW YOBK. T H E NATIONAL CITY CO. NEW YozKf June 20f JV&K 242 SALE OF FOREIGN; B O N D S OR S E C U R I T I E S , WASHINGTON, D . C . June 26*, 1929. DEAII SIES : R e f e r r i n g t o t h e i s s u e o f §20,000,000 p r i n c i p a l a m o u n t o f guaranteed s i n k i n g f u n d 6 p e r c e n t g o l d b o n d s o f 1929, d u e M a y 1, 1962, o f the M o r t g a g e B a n k o f Chile ( C a j a d e C r e d i t o H i p o t e c a r i o , C h i l e ) , w h i c h y o u have a g r e e d t o purchase, I b e g to s t a t e t h e f o l l o w i n g f o r y o u r i n f o r m a t i o n : T h e b o n d s j i r e to b e u n c o n d i t i o n a l l y g u a r a n t e e d a s t o p r i n c i p a l , i n t e r e s t and : sinking fundT by indorsement, b y t h e R e p u b l i c o f C h i l e aiul a r e t o b e issued in a c c o r d a n c e w i t h the l a w o f the R e p u b l i c o f Chile, d a t e d A u g u s t 29, 1855, establishing the C a j a , as a m e n d e d b y D e c r e e L a w N o . 743, d a t e d D e c e m b e r 15, 1925, w h i c h w a s duly a p p r o v e d b y t h e commission/ a p p o i n t e d f o r t h a t p u r p o s e by both houses of Congress, a n d w i t h L a w N o . 4074, d a t e d J u l y 27, 1926, as amended b y L a w No. 4327, dated M a r c h 20, 1928, and w i t h t h e d e c r e e o f the President o f the R e p u b l i c of Chile N o . 2694, d a t e d J u n e 25, 1929. T h e C a j a d e C r e d i t o H i p o t e c a r i o w a s c r e a t e d f o r t h e p u r p o s e o f making available credit facilities on r e a s o n a b l e t e r m s f o r t h e d e v e l o p m e n t a n d improvement of real property in Chile. T h e b o a r d o f d i r e c t o r s , t h e p r e s i d e n t o f the board, the chief counsel, the cashier, the c o n t r o l l e r a n d t h e s e c r e t a r y are appointed by the President o f t h e R e p u b l i c . D u r i n g its entire existence o f o v e r 73 years, t h e C a j a h a s o p e r a t e d successf u l l y a n d has never f a i l e d t o m e e t its o b l i g a t i o n s . T h e r e c o r d o f i t s loan collections is very satisfactory. T h e losses i n c u r r e d bj- t h e C a j a o n property f o r e c l o s e d under its m o r t g a g e s h a v e n o t e x c e e d e d §40,000 i n t h e a g g r e g a t e f o r the last 15 years. T h e C a j a has n o capital stock a n d i s n o t o p e r a t e d f o r p r o f i t . I t h a s power to charge a commission t o p r o v i d e f o r its e x p e n s e s a n d f o r a r e s e r v e f u n d , as additional security f o r its b o n d s a n d notes, b u t h a v i n g a c c u m u l a t e d a sufficient reserve, which n o w a m o u n t s to a p p r o x i m a t e l y $5,022,900 a t g o l d p a r i t y of' exchange, the C a j a h a s discontinued c h a r g i n g such c o m m i s s i o n . On December 31, 1928, the C a j a h a d o u t s t a n d i n g v a r i o u s issues o f bonds aggregating $143,606,682 a t g o l d p a r i t y of e x c h a n g e a n d an i s s u e o f $10,000,000 of notes due D e c e m b e r 31, 1931. T h e C a j a i s not p e r m i t t e d b y l a w t o have its bonds outstanding i n an aggregate a m o u n t e x c e e d i n g t h e a g g r e g a t e amounto f loans m a d e b y it. Such loans m a y b e r e p a i d b y t h e b o r r o w e r s i n cash or in bonds o r notes of the C a j a at p a r . All l o a n s a r e s e c u r e d b y first mortgages or pledges registered in the n a m e o f the C a j a . T h e y a r e m a d e o n a c o n s e r v a t i v e basis a n d the risk is greatly diversified. O n D e c e m b e r 31, 192S. the C a j a had made 11,839 m o r t g a g e loans against its o u t s t a n d i n g b o n d s , b e i n g a n a v e r a g e of less than $12,130 p e r loan, and these l o a n s a g g r e g a t e d l e s s t h a n 25 per cent of the aggregate appraised i m p r o v e d v a l u e o f t h e p r o p e r t i e s m o r t g a g e d as security therefor. A g a i n s t its notes the C a j a h a d on t h a t d a t e m a d e 2,356 loans, being an a v e r a g e of less than $4,250 p e r loan. Of the present issue of b o n d s $10,000,000, principal a m o u n t , n r e t o provide f o r loans secured by agricultural p r o d u c t s o r f a r m m a c h i n e r y a n d implements, which loans m a y not exceed 50 p e t c e n t o f the a p p r a i s e d m a r k e t v a l u e o f such collateral, and §10,000,000, principal amount, a r e t o p r o v i d e f o r the redemption of b o n d s of the Caja which it d e e m s a d v a n t a g e o u s to retire. T h e l a w authorizes the C a j a to issue b o n d s a n d to m a k e m o r t g a g e loans payable in foreign currencies. I t i s the p r a c t i c e o f the C a j a t o m a k e its m o r t g a g e loans, against which b o n d s p a y a b l e in a f o r e i g n c u r r e n c y a r e issued; also payable in the same c u r r e n c y , e x c e p t i n c a s e s w h e r e it lias obtained a guaranty of the R e p u b l i c o f Chile f o r a n y . l o s s resulting f r o m e x c h a n g e fluctuations. T h i s w a s done in 1912 w h e n Fes. 58,823,500 gold b o n d s w e r e issued (of which there are still F e s . 24.360,000 gold n o w o u t s t a n d i n g ) a n d in 1925. 1926, and 1928 w h e n $60,000,000 United States gold b o n d s a n d $10,000,000 5-year United States gold notes w e r e issued in t h e U n i t e d States b y ' y o u . and is also being d o n e in the c a s e o f the present issue, a g a i n s t $10,000,000 o f which m o r t g a g e loans in Chilean currency w i l l be outstanding. T h e bonds and notes o f the C a j a a r e legal i n v e s t m e n t s f o r s a v i n g * banks and trust f u n d s in Chile. I n 1911 and 1912 three issues o f 5 p e r c e n t bonds of the C a j a , not indorsed w i t h the g u a r a n t y o f t h e G o v e r n m e n t , w e r e made in Europe, a t prices ranging f r o m 96*4 t o 99*4 p e r cent. T h e s e issues are listed on the stock exchanges o f P a r i s , B e r l i n , a n d Z u r i c h . T h e present debt o f the R e p u b l i c o f Chile, i n c l u d i n g t h e present a n d all other obligations guaranteed b y it, a g g r e g a t e s a b o u t $460,600,000 at g o l d parity o f exchange. T h e p r o c e e d s o f the G o v e r n m e n t l o a n s h a v e b e e n l a r g e l y used f o r the construction o r i m p r o v e m e n t of r a i l w a y s , h a r b o r s , a n d o t h e r public SALE OF FOREIGN BONUS Clll SECURITIES 24S works. The Government o w n s 3.390 miles of railroads, telegraph lines, and other proi>erty, of an estimated vnlne of approximately $050.000.0.0 at gold parity of exchange. Chile is a mining and agricultural country. Its luimral products a i e largely raw materials for essential Industries. Practically the only nitrate dej>osit* in the world are located In Chile and their exploitation f o r m s its m a j o r industry. The largest known cop|H*r ileiMislt.s in the world are in Chile. They occur near the surface and are o f exceptionally high quality, resulting in the lowest cost production o f any large-scale copper pn-.ducing area in the world* These deposits arc heing extensively t.'evelopcd. mainly by American capital. Exports consist chieJly o f nitrates, by-products of the nitrate industry, copper, iron ore, borax, wool, and a limited amount o f agricultural products. The trade balance of Chile Is favorable. Imports f o r 192S totaled $142.303,0£0 at the pre>em gold pariiv o f e x c h a n g e while exports totaled $239,181,000 resulting in a favorable? trade balance f o r the year o f o\er 800,000. .Since 1915 imports have exceeded e x i x o t s in only o n e year. Chile is on a gold basis. I t s c u r r e n c y is the peso, equivalent to United States $0.12100. Currency n«»tes are issued by the Central Bank of Chile, which is similar to the Federal reserve banks o f the United States. T h e gold and gold exchange held by the B a n c o Central de Chile on M a y 17, 1929, amounted to $94,224,000, p r o v i d i n g a ratio o f gold c o v e r to notes outstanding and deposits of over 9S per c e n t The above mentioned $20,000,000 principal amount o f guaranteed sinking fund 0 per cent gold bonds o f 1929 o f the C a j a , constituting the loan designated "Empresito oro Caja Hipotecarla, 1929," will be in coupon-bearer f o r m , in denominations of $1,000 and $500, will b e dated M a y 1, 1929, will mature May 1, 1902, and will b e a r interest a t t h e r a t e o f 0 per cent per annum f r o m May 1, 1929, payable semi-annually o n M a y 1 and November 1 of each year. Principal and interest will be p a y a b l e a t the option o f the holders, in the Borough of Manhattan, in the city o f N e w Y o r k , a t the office o f Kuhn, Loeb & Co., or at the principal office o f Guaranty T r u s t Co. o f N e w Y o r k , in gold coin of the United States of America, o f o r equal to the standard o f weight and fineness existing M a y 1, 1929, o r in Santiago, Chile, a t the office o f the Caja, by sight d r a f t on New Y o r k City, w i t h o u t deduction f o r a n y taxes, imposts, levies o r duties o f a n y n a t u r e n o w o r at a n y time hereafter imposed by the Republic o f Chile, o r b y a n y state, province, municipality, o r other taxing authority thereof o r therein, and w i l l be paid in time o f w a r as well as in time of peace and whether the h o l d e r b e a citizen o r a resident o f a friendly o r a hostile state. The bonds will be redeemable through a cumulative sinking fund beginning November 1, 1929, calculated t o retire the entire issue by May 1, 1902, to be applied on each semi-annual interest d a t e t o the redemption o f bonds by lot at par. Notice o f redemption i s t o b e given b y advertisement, the first advertisement to appear a t least 30 d a y s b e f o r e each redemption date. T h e Caja will have the right to Increase the a m o u n t of any sinking fund installment for the redemption o f additional b o n d s on a n y interest date a n d in any such case appropriate reductions m a y b e m a d e in subsequent sinking f u n d installments. Application will be made in d u e c o u r s e t o list the bonds o n the N e w Y o r k Stock Exchange. Very truly yours, CARLOS G . DAVTLA, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Republic of Chile to the United States. $20,000,000 PROVINCE OF ONTARIO, DOMINION OF CANADA. 20-VKAR 5 PER CF.NT GOLD BONDS, NONCALLALUS, DATED OCTOBER 2 . 1 9 2 2 ; Vvk OCTOBER 1 , 1 9 4 2 Principal and semiannual interest ( A p r i l 1 and Octol»er 1) payable at the option of the holder at the agency o f the B a n k o f Montreal, New Y o r k , in gold coin of the United States o f America o f -the present standard o f weight and fineness, or at the < ffice of the T r e a s u r e r o f the P r o v i n c e o f Ontario, T o r o n t o , or at tlie Bank of Montreal. Montreal, Canada. In gold coin of the lawful money: of Canada. Coupon bond* o f $1,000 each, registerable as to principal only. Legal opinion: E. G. Long, K . C.. T o r o n t o . 244 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, T h e f o l l o w i n g financial i n f o r m a t i o n has been furnished b y the H o n . C. A. M a t t h e w s , assistant provincial t r e a s u r e r : A p p r o x i m a t e assessed v a l u e o f all property witliin the P r o v i n c e of Ontario $2,054,212,000 Total funded debt (including present issue) — 224,693,420 Sinking fund 0,251,640 I n the a b o v e debt a r e included $134,545,470 which are invested in revenue-producing enterprises. Contingent liabilities, f u l l y secured ( o f which $7,800,000 represents guarantees o f bonds of the Canadian Northern Ontario Ry.. n o w o w n e d and operated b y the Dominion G o v e r n m e n t ) . 36,882,408 A s s e t s o f the Province, including cash, sinking f u n d s , governm e n t buildings, c r o w n lands, water power, etc 716, 601,479 R e v e n u e f o r last fiscal year, ended Oct. 31, 1921 29,261,477 E x p e n d i t u r e f o r last fiscal year, ended Oct. 31, 1921 I 28,579,6S7 A l a r g e p a r t of the above bonds having been sold, the undersigned offer the balance, subject to previous sale, a t 99Vi per cent and accrued interest to date o f d e l i v e r y , a t which price the bonds yield about 5.06 per c e n t i f held to maturity. T h e undersigned reserve the right t o r e j e c t a n y application i n w h o l e o r in part. T h e above bonds a r e offered if, when, and a s issued a n d received by the undersigned, which is expected to b e on o r about October 18. Pending the receipt of the engraved bonds, interim certificates will b e d e l i v e r e d against payment in N e w Y o r k f u n d s f o r b o n d s allotted. OCTOBEE 13,1922. K U H N , LOEB & C o . KIDDER, PEABODY & C o . WOOD, GUNDY & C o . HALLOARTEN & C o . UNITED FINANCIAL CORPORATION (LTD.). $6,000,000, PROVINCE OP ALBERTA, DOMINION o r CANADA, 30-YEAR 4 % PER CENT GOLD DEBENTURES, NONCALLABLE, DATED OCTOBER 1 , 1 9 2 6 , D U E OCTOBER 1, 1958 Principal and semiannual interest ( A p r i l 1 and October 1 ) p a y a b l e at the Imperial B a n k o f Canada in T o r o n t o , Montreal, or E d m o n t o n , or, at the option o f the holder, in gold coin o f the United States o f A m e r i c a o f the the present standard of weight and fineness, at the B a n k o f t h e M a n h a t t a n Co. in New York. Coupon debentures in $1,000 denomination, registrable a s to principal at the provincial treasurer's office at E d m o n t o n , Alberta, a t the head office of the Imperial B u n k of Canada, T o r o n t o , or at the B a n k o f the M a n h a t t a n Co. ii> N e w Y o r k City. E x e m p t f r o m any present or f u t u r e t a x e s imposed by the P r o v i n c e of Alberta, i n c l u d i n g a n y income taxes, a n d - f r o m municipal and school t a x a t i o n in the Province. L e g a l O p i n i o n : E . G. L o n g , K . C., T o r o n t o . T h e f o l l o w i n g i n f o r m a t i o n h a s been furnished b y W . Y. N e w s o n , Esq., deputy: provincial treasurer: G e n e r a l : T h e P r o v i n c e of Alberta c o m p r i s i n g over 255,000 s q u a r e miles has a n estimated present population o f 650,000. I t i s preeminently an agricultural p r o v i n c e , b u t also h a s large deposits o f coal, natural gas, and petroleum. Its c o a l r e s e r v e s a r e reputed t o contain 14 per cent o f the c o a l reserves o f the w o r l d , w i t h an estimated content o f 1,035.629 million tons. I n addition, its i m p o r t a n t industries c o m p r i s e dairying, w o o l g r o w i n g , nnd s t o c k raising. I t h a s excellent facilities f o r distributing its products, b e i n g traversed b y two, transcontinental r a i l w a y s , n a m e l y , t h e Canadian P a c i f i c R a i l w a y and the C a n a d i a n N a t i o n a l R a i l w a y systems, w h i c h a l s o h a v e a n e t w o r k o f branch lines. T h e P r o v i n c e also o w n s and operates the A l b e r t a & G r e a t W a t e r w a y s R a i l w a y , t h e E d m o n t o n , D u n v e g a n & British Columbia R a i l w a y , and the L a c o m b e & North. W e s t e r n R a i l w a y , all o f w h i c h serve a rich territory. T h e debentures represented b y the present issue a r e issued f o r general and r e f u n d i n g p u r p o s e s a n d a r e a d i r e c t obligation o f the P r o v i n c e o f Alberta. T h e P r o v i n c e has t h e p o w e r t o l e v y direct t a x e s u p o n all t h e t a x a b l e property w i t h i n the P r o v i n c e t o p r o v i d e f o r principal, interest, a n d sinking f u n d s on.; SALK OF F011K1GX BONDS OH SECURITIES 245 its debentures, b u t o n l y finds it necessary to exercise this taxing power to a small degree, a s r e v e n u e f r o m oilier s o u r c e s is almost sufficient. P u r p o s e : T h e s e d e b e n t u r e s a r e b e i n g issued f o r the purpose of providing f u n d s to r e f u n d $3,000,000 5 % !>er c e n t debentures due November 1, 1920, and $3,000,000 f o r p u b l i c w o r k s a n d o t h e r public purposes. Financial Mutanait Approximate assessed value o f all land within Province of Alberta $505,205,040 Gross f u n d e d debt ( i n c l u d i n g present issue und a f t e r allowance f o r repayment o f $3,000,000 5V& per c e n t debentures d u e Nov, 1, 1020) SO, 040,082 In the a b o v e a r c included $28,521,728 which arc invested in self-sustaining asset*. In addition, there are upward o f $7,000,000 invested in assets which a r e revenue producing but not entirely self-supporting. Sinking f u n d 2,472,904 Contingent liabilities per last published statement 48,188,854 O f this a m o u n t , $22,530,957 represents debentures of railways n o w owned und o p e r a t e d by the D o m i n i o n Government under the Canadian N a t i o n a l R y . system a n d upon which interest is paid by D o m i n i o n G o v e r n m e n t . Total provincial a s s e t s — 174,091,689 Annual dominion subsidy 1,074,435 T h e undersigned oiTer the a b o v e debentures, subject to prior sale, at per cent and a c c r u e d Interest t o d a t e o f delivery, to yield 4.85 per cent t o maturity. T b e a b o v e d e b e n t u r e * a r e offered If, w h e n and as issued and received by the undersigned. P a y m e n t f o r the delnrnturcs is to l»e made in New York funds against d e l i v e r y o f permanent debentures. NEW YOHK, Octohcr 4, JMG* K U H N , LOE» & C o . $25,000,000 AUSTRIAN GOVFUXUENT GUAKANTEED LOAX, 1023-1043, 7 PES CENT S I X K I X G - K U X D GOI.D BONDS Dated June 1, 102:1. Interest l i v a b l e J u n e 1 and Decerning 1. Due June I , 1943. Subject to redemption at p a r a s a w h o l e mi any interest date after June 1,1934, and in p a r t t h r o u g h the sinking f u n d in any year. Coupon b o n d s in d e n o m i n a t i o n s of $1,000, $500, and $100. Principal and interest p a y a b l e in New Y o r k at the office o f J. P. Morgan & Co., in United States gold c o i n o f the present standard o f weight and fineness, without deduction f o r a n y A u s t r i a n taxes, present o r future. Guaranteed severally a s t o principal, interest, arid redemption payments, in the proportion stated b e l o w , b y t b e Governments o f Great Britain, France, Czechoslovakia, Italy, Belgium, Sweden, Denmark, and Holland. Before each issue f o r m i n g part o f the loan is made, every guarantor state will deposit with tlic National B a n k o f Switzerland in the name o f the trustees its own bonds o f like tenor a n d c u r r e n c y to cover the amount o f its guaranty in respect o f s u c h Issue. T h u s , d o l l a r bonds o f the several states by which the service o f this issue i s guaranteed w i l l be held by the National Bank o f Switzerland in the n a m e o f t h e trustees. These bonds a r e p a r t o f an international loan to be issued in Great Britain, Prance, Italy, Switzerland, Belgium, Holland, Sweden, Austria, and the United States o f America In b o n d s o f v a r i o u s denominations and in various currencies f o r amounts sufficient to y i e l d in t h e . aggregate an effective sum equivalent to 030,000,000 Austrian g o l d c r o w n s , o r about $120,(XX),000. They are to be secured by a first charge, a s stated below, on the gross receipts o f the Austrian customs and t o b a c c o monoi>oly. S u c h receipts f o r the first five months of 1923 have l>een a t the rate o f 150,000,000 Austrian gold crowns (about $30,000,000) per annum. Interest c h a r g e s and sinking f u n d sufficient t o amortize the loan by m a t u r i t y will not e x c e e d 07,000,000 Austrian gold crowns (about $13,600,000) p e r annum. 246 SALE'••OF FOREIGN BONDS ?OR SECURITIES T h e Austrian Government covenants to p a y during the l i f e of the- loan a fixed annual sum which, a f t e r deducting tlie annual interest oil the bonds at the time outstanding, is to b e sufficient to redeem the entire loan in annual installments by maturity. T h e quota available f o r amortization o f the Americ a n issue, increasing f r o m about $600,000 in the first y e a r to about $2,200,000 in the last year, will be use:! in the redemption o f b o n d s o f the American issue by l o t at 100 per cent and r corned interest, or, if the A u s t r i a n Government shall so elect, i n the purchase Ojl bonds in the market, if obtainable at less than 100 per cent and accrued interest. A s to particular features of the loan and the security therefor, the following s u m m a r y has been prepared b y D o c t o r Zimmerman, f o r m e r l y burgomaster o f R o t t e r d a m , appointed as commissioner general of Austria in connection with the plan f o r Austria's financial rehabilitation : ( 1 ) T h e bonds of this issue (including an existing Czechoslovakian advance o f n o t e x c e e d i n g 13,500,000 Austrian gold crowns, about $2,700,000), and any loan w h i c h the Austrian Government m a y raise to p r o v i d e f o r the redemption a f t e r J u n e 1, 1934,. of the outstanding balance o f any particular issue forming part of this loan, are secured by a first c h a r g e on the gross receipts of the customs and tobacco monopoly of Austria. Such receipts f o r the first five months of 1923 were at the rate of 150,000,000 A u s t r i a n g o l d c r o w s (about $30,000,000) per annum. No f u r t h e r charge on the said receipts and properties m a y be created ranking in priority to, o r pari passu with, the a b o v e charges. ( 2 ) B y tlie concerted action of the principal nations of t h e w o r l d , including the United States of America, claims against A u s t r i a f o r relief bond charges h a v e been subordinated to this loan, and claims f o r r e p a r a t i o n charges have likewise been subordinated by the reparations commission. ( 3 ) A protocol has been signed b y the European Governments directly interested, including the neighboring States o f I t a l y and of Czechoslovakia, insuring the economic and political independence of Austria. ( 4 ) T h e hypothecated revenues pass directly into an a c c o u n t controlled by the commissioner general, whose first duty is t o see that sufficient sums are retained f o r the service of the loan b e f o r e releasing a n y s u m s f o r the uses of the Austrian Government. T h e commissioner general w i l l a l s o control the expenditure of the proceeds of this loan. G u a r a n t i e s : O f the total authorized loan, bonds to the a m o u n t required to yield an effective sum equivalent to not m o r e than 585,000,000 Austrian gold c r o w n s ( o f which the present issue o f guaranteed dollar b o n d s f o r m s part) are guaranteed as t o principal, interest, and redemption p a y m e n t s by the undermentioned States to the extent in each case o f the p r o p o r t i o n s t a t e d : I'cv cent Great Britain France Czechoslovakia Italy Belgium Sweden Denmark Holland Total J ; _ V ... : Ill I.- 24Vi 24% 24% 20% 2 2 1 1 UK) I n addition to the sum o f 585,000.000 Austrian gold c r o w n s thus obtained, a f u r t h e r amount of upwards of 45,000,000 A u s t r i a n gold c r o w n s w i l l be made available through advances' to be m a d e b y the Swiss and Spanish Governments a s part o f the authorized total of this loan. T h e s e amounts together are now estimated to he sufficient; f o r the requirements of the A u s t r i a n Government T h e a d v a n c e s above described will rank equally on the pledged revenues, but will not h a v e the government guarantee. W e o f f e r t h e above bonds, subject to prior sale, at 90 per cent accrued interest, t o yield o v e r 8 per cent. A l l o r d e r s will be received s u b j e c t t o the issue and delivery to u s o f tlie bonds a s planned, and t o the approval b y o u r counsel o f their f o r m and execution. T h e r i g h t i s reserved t o reject a n y and all applications, a n d also, in any event, t o a w a r d a smaller a m o u n t than applied f o r . S A L E OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 247 Amounts due on a l l o t m e n t s will 1H» p a y a b l e a t t b e office o f J . P . M o r g a n & C o . m New Y o r k f u n d s t o t h e i r o r d e r . on o r a b o u t J u n e 20, 1023. T r u s t receipts will be delivered ]>endfng t b e p r e p a r a t i o n o f t b e definite b o n d s . J . P. M o r g a n & C o . ; First N a t i o n a l B a n k , N e w Y o r k ; G u a r a n t y C o . of N e w Y o r k ; Kidder, Peubody & C o . ; Harris. Forbes & C o . ; K u h n , L o e b & C o . ; T h e N a t i o n a l C i t y C o . ; B a n k e r s T r u s t Co., New Y o r k ; Lee, lligginsou & C o . ; Dillon, R e a d & Co. JUNE 11, 1923. The f o l l o w i n g statement h a s t>eeii f u r n i s h e d by D r . A l f r e d Z i m m e r m a n , f o r merly burgomaster o f R o t t e r d a m , w h o is the c o m m i s s i o n e r general f o r A u s t r i a iu connection with A u s t r i a ' s financial a n d e c o n o m i c rehabilitation. TIIE NEW AUSTRIA The Republic o f A u s t r i a , w i t h its n e w political f r o n t i e r s , h a s an area o f about 33 250 square m i l e s aiul a imputation o f a b o u t (1.500,000 people. In a r e a the new Austria is n e a r l y three t i m e s a s l a r g e a s B e l g i u m , a b o u t t w o and a half times as large a s H o l l a n d , a n d m o r e than t w i c e a s l a r g e a s S w i t z e r l a n d . Its population is a p p r o x i m a t e l y e q u a l to t h a t o f H o l l a n d a n d a b o u t 75 p e r c e n t greater than that o f S w i t z e r l a n d . The new Austria lias l a r g e d e p o s i t * o f i r o n ore. sufficient to s u p p l y the e n t i r e needs of its i m p o r t a n t m e t a l - w o r k i n g i n d u s t r y , w h i c h in n o r m a l times is capable o f p r o d u c i n g a t least 1,000,000 t o n s o f p r o d u c t s a n n u a l l y . T h e finished products Include m a c h i n e r y , r a i l w a y r o l l i n g stock, a u t o m o b i l e s a n d other vehicles, and electrical a p p a r a t u s . T h e f o r e s t s o f A u s t r i a c o n s t i t u t e o n e o f its chief resources a n d a b o u t 38 p e r c e n t o f the t o t a l a r e a Is w o o d e d . T h i s large supply o f t i m b e r p r o v i d e s t h e basis f o r a h i g h l y d e v e l o p e d w o o d - w o r k i n g industry, which p r o d u c e s l a r g e l y f o r e x p o r t , and f o r a c o n s i d e r a b l e paper industry. One o f t h e principal s o u r c e s o f t b e c o u n t r y ' s w e a l t h consists in the hydraulic f o r c e s f u r n i s h e d b y t h e I n n u m e r a b l e m o u n t a i n s t r e a m s a n d c a t a r a c t s that abound In n e a r l y e v e r y p a r t o f t h e t e r r i t o r y . A u s t r i a , possessing little coal, the d e v e l o p m e n t o f this n a t u r a l w e a l t h w i l l l a r g e l y c o n t r i b u t e t o m a k i n g the country Independent o f an e x p e n s i v e I m p o r t w h i c h w o u l d w e i g h uiwm the trade balance. E v e n in the p e r i o d o f t h e w o r s t financial depression, w o r k s have been started t o m a k e t h i s p o t e n t i a l p o w e r a c t i v e . T h e electrification o f the railways is m a k i n g p r o g r e s s , and b y t h e c o o p e r a t i o n o f g o v e r n m e n t ami private capital c o n s i d e r a b l e w o r k i s n o w b e i n g c a r r i e d o n to m a k e the w a t e r powers serviceable t o i n d u s t r y . In V i e n n a there is a well-organized c l o t h i n g industry, the p r o d u c t i o n o f w h i c h is sufficient t o meet t h e e n t i r e c o n s u m p t i o n of the territory f o r m e r l y c o m p r i s e d In Austria-Hungary a n d still l e a v e u surplus f o r e x p o r t t o o t h e r m a r k e t s . The basis o f a g r e a t c o m m e r c e i n t e r c h a n g e i s l a i d in the g e o g r a p h i c a l s i t u a tion o f the c o u n t r y . N a t u r a l l i n e s o f d i s t r i b u t i o n , w h i c h the r a i l w a y roil res now f o l l o w , e x t e n d i n g f r o m t h e n o r t h o f E u r o p e to the s o u t h ; f r o m w e s t e r n Europe t o eastern E u r o p e , R u s s i a a n d t h e N e a r E a s t ; and f r o m C z e c h o s l o vakia to the A d r i a t i c , all c r o s s A u s t r i a , i n t e r s e c t i n g a t the c i t y o f V i e n n a . T h e Danube, flowing t h r o u g h n e a r l y t h e w h o l e o f c e n t r a l a n d e a s t e r n E u r o p e , also provides an i m p o r t a n t h i g h w a y f o r c o m m e r c e . In consequence, V i e n n a f o r c e n t u r i e s p a s t h a s been o n e o f the c h i e f c o m mercial cities of the w o r l d , a m a r k e t - p l a c e w h e r e the p r o d u c t s , o f E u r o p e a n d those of the Near East meet a n d a r e e x c h a n g e d , a n d a d i s t r i b u t i n g c e n t e r f o r the entire s u r r o u n d i n g t e r r i t o r y o f c e n t r a l E u r o p e . T h e g r e a t b a n k s , t r a d i n g concerns, and industrial c o m p a n i e s o f V i e n n a h a v e been t h e g r o w t h o f g e n e r a tions of e c o n o m i c e x p e r i e n c e , a n d t h e o l d c o n n e c t i o n s t h u s e s t a b l i s h e d h a v e proved, In the m a i n , t o o s t r o n g t o b e p e r m a n e n t l y d i s t u r b e d b y t h e n e w p o l i t i c a l frontiers. T h e Services r e n d e r e d b y the i n d u s t r i a l , c o m m e r c i a l , a n d financial organization? in V i e n n a a r e i n d i s p e n s a b l e t o t h e e c o n o m i c l i f e o f c e n t r a l Europe. T h e y g i v e t o A u s t r i a invisible e x p o r t s w h i c h g r e a t l y lienefit t h e trade balance. CONDITIONS LEADING TO THE ADOWION OF TIIE TI-AN During the p e r i o d f r o m t h e a r m i s t i c e t o t h e a u t u m n o f 1922, w h i l e A u s t r i a w a s struggling t o e s t a b l i s h i t s n e w d e m o c r a t i c f o r m o f g o v e r n m e n t o n a w o r k ing basis a n d t o a d j u s t i t s e c o n o m i c l i f e t o t h e c o n d i t i o n s a r i s i n g f r o m t h e 248 SALE'••OF FOREIGN BONDS ?OR SECURITIES disruption o f a n e c o n o m i c unit w h i c h h a d been in e x i s t e n c e f o r centuries, gov* e r n m e n t finances n o t unnaturally steadily deteriorated. A l t h o u g h Austria was t h e r e c i p i e n t o f relief c r e d i t s and g i f t s of supplies f r o m a b r o a d on a l a r g e scale, a l l o f t h e e x p e n d i t u r e h a d been consumed f o r current needs, w i t h o u t any im j p r o v e m e n t i n the c o u n t r y ' s financial position. .Inflation continued t o increase and the p a p e r c r o w n steadily declined in value, due 'to the c o n t i n u o u s issue of u n c o v e r e d currency. T h e unsound currency situation had strongly deterrent effects o n the revival o f industry, which in turn reacted u n f a v o r a b l y o n the^ g o v e r n m e n t ' s budget receipts; 'in b r i e f , Austria w a s in the g r i p o f a vicious c i r c l e o f c a u s e and effect f r o m w h i c h it m i g h t h a v e proved a l m o s t impossible f o r h e r to e x t r i c a t e herself unaided. T h e e n d o f this, period is marked b y September, 1922, when, at the request of A u s t r i a , a c o m p r e h e n s i v e plan f o r the financial and economic rehabilitation of A u s t r i a , f o r m u l a t e d b y the L e a g u e o f Nation?, w a s adopted b y the representatives o f the chief countries o f - E u r o p e . THE PLAN OF REHABILITATION T h e basis f o r the plan i s the political integrity and e c o n o m i c independence o f Austria a n d the declaration (protocol No. 1 o f October 4, 1022) designed to maintain it. Aided by t h e confidence which this declaration h a s created, the A u s t r i a n Government h a s instituted a p r o g r a m o f r e f o r m in o r d e r to ensure t h e balancing o f its budget b y the end of 1924. T h i s p r o g r a m o f r e f o r m includes— ( a ) T h e reduction o f . ministries, s i m p l i f y i n g their organization and eliminating overlapping. T h i s measure i s in, an advanced state of execution. (&) Reorganization o r eventual transfer to p r i v a t e management o f State industrial enterprises. ( c ) T h e reduction in the number o f State employees, the number of whom w a s r e d u c e d by about 36,500 between Oetolnn* 1, 1922, and M a y 2C, 1923, a s part o f t h e p r o g r a m f o r the release of 100,000 employees p r i o r to J u l y 1, 1924. ( d ) T h e enactment o f legislation providing f o r increased revenues f r o m indirect taxation, customs duties, and duties o f other kinds, a n d t h e introduction o f a t u r n o v e r tax. These measures h a v e been introduced w i t h success. I n t h e meantime, during this period o f transition, the e x c e s s o f the Government's expenditures o v e r the revenues available f r o m n o r m a l resources, estimated a t n o t to exceed about 500,000,000 Austrian gold c r o w n s , w i l l be met f r o m the proceeds o f the Austrian Government guaranteed loan 1023-1JM3. In addition, a d v a n c e s f r o m several f o r e i g n governments, a g g r e g a t i n g about 130,000,000 Austrian gold c r o w n s and m a d e in 1922 in anticipation of t h i s loan, a r e t o be r e f u n d e d w i t h bonds o f the loan, issued in the c u r r e n c i e s o f the respective lending countries. NEW INDEPENDENT BANK OF ISSUE Inflation through n o t e issues f o r the Government's a c c o u n t definitely stopped on N o v e m b e r 1 8 , 1 9 2 2 ; since then additional notes h a v e been issued only against c o v e r in g o l d or in f o r e i g n balances in stable currencies. A b a n k o f issue,, independent o f Government control a n d . h a v i n g t h e sole p o w e r o f note issue, has been established, with capital of 30,000,000 A u s t r i a n gold c r o w n s subscribed in A u s t r i a , a n d h a s been functioning since J a n u a r y 2, 1923. A t t h e 23d o f May, 1923, its r a t i o o f reserves (gold and f o r e i g n e x c h a n g e b a l a n c e s ) t o n o t e circulation ( t h e l a t t e r i n p a p e r c r o w n s b e i n g calculated in gold c r o w n s , a c c o r d i n g t o the statutes o f the bank, a t the a v e r a g e rate o f the p r e c e d i n g h a l f y e a r ) was m o r e than 3 5 p e r cent. A s a result o f the monetary m e a s u r e s taken, the A u s t r i a n c r o w n h a s been s t a b i l i z e d ; its e x c h a n g e value, d u r i n g the past seven months, h a s deviated h a r d l y a t a l l f r o m the level established in October, 1922. THE LOAN AND ITS GUARANTIES T h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t guaranteed loan 1923-1&43 is t o b e an International loan t o b e issued in G r e a t Britain, F r a n c e , Italy, Switzerland, B e l g i u m , Holland, S w e d e n , A u s t r i a , a n d t h e United States o f America* in b o n d s o f v a r i o u s denominations a n d in v a r i o u s currencies f o r a m o u n t s sufficient to y i e l d in the^aggreg a t e a n e f f e c t i v e s u m equivalent to 030,000,000 A u s t r i a n g o l d c r o w n s , o r about $126,000,000. SALE OF FOISKIGX I I O X D S 01? SKCUHIT1ES 249 Of tbe total a u t h o r i z e d loan, b o n d s to the a m o u n t required to yield an effect i v e s u m o f n o t e x c e e d i n g 585,000,000 A u s t r i a n g o l d c r o w n s ( o f w h i c h the present i s s u e o f g u a r a n t e e d d o l l a r b o n d s f o r m s p a r t ) a r e g u a r a n t e e d a s to principal, i n t e r e s t , a n d r e d e m p t i o n p a y m e n t s b y t b e u n d e r m e n t i o n e d States, to the extent, in each ease, o f t h e p r o p o r t i o n s t a t e d : Tor ccnt Great B r i t a n France Czechoslovakia Italy Belgium - . 24^ 24 24 % - 20% 2 Per ccnt Sweden Denmark Holland Total- ! 2 1 1 300 I n a d d i t i o n t o t h e s u m o f 5S5.000.000 A u s t r i a n g o l d c r o w n s t h u s o b t a i n e d , a f u r t h e r a m o u n t o f u p w a r d o f 45.000,<K)0 A u s t r i a n g o l d c r o w n s will b e m a d e a v a i l a b l e t h r o u g h a d v a n c e s U* b e m a d e b y t h e S w i s s a n d S p a n i s h G o v e r n m e n t s as p a r t o f t h e a u t h o r i z e d t o t a l <»f t h i s l o a n . T h e s e a m o u n t s t o g e t h e r a r e n o w estimated t o b e tuitticieiit f o r t h e r e q u i r e m e n t s o f t h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t T h e a d v a n c e s a b o v e d e > e r i b w l w i l l r a n k e q u a l l y on the p l e d g e d revenues, but w i l l not h a v e t h e G o v e r n m e n t g u a r a n t i e s . B e f o r e e a c h i s s u e f o r m i n g p u r r o f t h e l o a n is m a d e , e v e r y g u a r a n t o r S t a t e will deposit w i t h t h e N a t i o n a l B a n k <«f S w i t z e r l a n d , in t h e n a m e o f the trustees f o r the loan, i t s o w n b o n d s o f l i k e t e n o r a n d c u r r e n c y t o c o v e r t h e a m o u n t o f its g u a r a n t y in r e j e c t o f s u c h issue. T h u s , d o l l a r b o u d s o f t h e s e v e r a l States b y w h i c h t h e s e r v i c e o f t h i s issue Is g u a r a n t e e d w i l l be held b y t h e N a t i o n a l B a n k of S w i t z e r l a n d in t h e n a m e o f t h e t r u s t e e s . S h o u l d f u n d s f o r the p a y m e n t o f tiny c o u p o n s o r o f a n y s i n k i n g - f u n d i n s t a l l m e n t s o f t h e l o a n n o t be in the hands o f the t r u s t e e s 3 0 d a y s 1m'fore t h e d a t e d u e , t h e s e l»onds a n d c o u p o n s are, a t the instance o f t h e t r u s t e e s a n d w i t h o u t a n y a c t i o n b y t h e bondholders, to b e immediately p a y a b l e b y e a c h o f t h e g u a r a n t e e i n g G o v e r n m e n t s t o the e x t e n t provided b y its g u a r a n t y . T h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t c o v e n a n t * t o p a y d u r i n g t h e l i f e o f t h e loan a fixed annual s u m w h i c h , a f t e r d e d u c t i n g t h e a n n u a l Interest o n t h e b o n d s a t t h e time outstanding, i s t o l>e sufficient t o r e d e e m t h e e n t i r e l o a n in a n n u a l installments by m a t u r i t y . T h e q u o t a a v a i l a b l e f o r a m o r t i z a t i o n o f t h e A m e r i c a n issue, increasing f r o m a b o u t $000,000 in t h e first y e a r t o a b o u t §2,200,000 in the last year, will b e u s e d In t h e r e d e m p t i o n o f b o n d s o f the A m e r i c a n issue b y l o t a t 100 p e r c e n t a n d a c c r u e d i n t e r e s t , o r , if t h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t shall s o elect, in the p u r c h a s e o f b o n d s in t b e m a r k e t , if o b t a i n a b l e a t less than 100 p e r c e n t and a c c r u e d I n t e r e s t SKCttHITY FOR Tlllt LOAN I n a d d i t i o n t o b e i n g d i r e c t o b l i g a t i o n s — i n r e s p e c t o f t h e p a y m e n t o f principal, interest; a n d s i n k i n g f u n d o f t h e F e d e r a l B e p u b l i c o f A u s t r i a — t h e b o n d s o f t h i s loan a r e s e c u r e d b y a first c h a r g e o n t h e . g r o s s . r e c e i p t s o f t h e c u s t o m s a n d the tobacco m o n o p o l y o f t h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t . T h i s c h a r g e e x t e n d s a l s o t o an existing a d v a n c e f r o m t h e C h e c h o s l o v a k i a n G o v e r n m e n t o f not e x c e e d i n g 13,500,000 A u s t r i a n g o l d c r o w n s a n d t o a n y l o a n w h i c h t h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n ment m a y r a i s e t o p r o v i d e f o r t h e r e d e m p t i o n , a f t e r J u n e 1, 1034, o f t h e o u t standing b a l a n c e o f a n y p a r t i c u l a r i s s u e f o r m i n g p a r t o f t h e l o a n n o w t o b e contracted. N o f u r t h e r c h a r g e o n t h e s e r e v e n u e s m a y b e c r e a t e d r a n k i n g i n priority t o , o r p a r i p a s s u w i t h , t h e a b o v e c h a r g e s . T h e g r o s s r e c e i p t * f r o m t h e c u s t o m s a n d t h e t o b a c c o m o n o p o l y d u r i n g t h e first five m o n t h s o f 1923 h a v e b e e n a t t h e rate o f 350,000,000 A u s t r i a n g o l d c r o w n s (about $30,000,000) p e r a n n u m . I n t e r e s t c h a r g e s a n d s i n k i n g f u n d sufllcient t o a m o r t i z e t b e l o a n b y m a t u r i t y w i l l n o t e x c e e d 07,000,000 A u s t r i a n g o l d c r o w n s (about $13,600,000) p e r a n n u m . I f f o r a n y r e a s o n n o w u n f o r e s e e n t h e g r o s s r e c e i p t o f t h e c u s t o m s a n d the tobacco m o n o p o l y p l e d g e d a s s e c u r i t y f o r t h i s l o a n , s h o u l d n o t a p p e a r t o b e sufficient, in t h e m s e l v e s , o t h e r revenues a r e t o b e h y p o t h e c a t e d o n t h e a c t i o n o f a committee representing t h e interests o f t h e g u a r a n t o r States. T h e h y p o t h e c a t e d r e v e n u e s pass* d i r e c t l y i n t o a n a c c o u n t c o n t r o l l e d b y the c o m m i s s i o n e r g e n e r a l , w h o s e f i r s t d u t y i s t o s e e t h a t sufficient s u m s a r e retained f o r t h e s e r v i c e o f t h e loan* b e f o r e r e l e a s i n g a n y s u m s f o r t h e u s e s o f t h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t A l s o , t h e p r o c e e d s o f t h i s l o a n w i l l p a s s i n t o a n a c c o u n t o f which the c o m m i s s i o n e r g e n e r a l h a s a b s o l u t e c o n t r o l . 250 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, THE COMMISSIONER GENERAL'S CONTROL Since D e c e m b e r 15 o f l a s t year the commissioner general h a s been functioning. I t i s his d u t y n o t only t o see t h a t the necessary r e f o r m s a n d economies in the administration a r e carried through, b u t also t h a t the expenditure of the State d o e s n o t exceed t h e limits w h i c h the G o v e r n m e n t h a s agreed to and w h i c h h a v e the balancing o f the budget f o r o b j e c t . T o guarantee t h a t t h e annual budget sanctioned b y P a r l i a m e n t and authorized b y the commissioner general is n o t exceeded, t h e Government has t o submit the budgets f o r the expenditure of e v e r y m o n t h to t h e approval of the commissioner general and these monthly budgets m u s t b e reduced when h e is o f opinion that either the total o r individual items a r e t o o high. He keeps in the closest and daily contact with t h e m o v e m e n t s o f the Treasury, because the Government requires his authorization f o r disposing o f the amounts passed 011 the accounts already mentioned. I n giving this authorization he must a l w a y s see that the sums f o r the service o f the loan remain available. Tl?e commissioner general states with satisfaction that the monthly budgets h a v e kept within the limits laid d o w n f r o m the beginning and that even a surplus has been obtained. SUBORDINATION OF OTHER LIENS T h e Reparation Commission, by their decision dated F e b r u a r y 20, 1923, have suspended f o r the purpose o f the guaranteed loan, f o r the p e r i o d of 20 years and f o r such f u r t h e r period a s m a y be necessary until the f u l l repayment of the loan, the lien f o r reparation charges o n any revenues w h i c h m a y be pledged as security f o r this loan. B y the concerted action o f the principal n a t i o n s 6f t h e w o r l d , including the United States of A m e r i c a b y a j o i n t Resolution o f Congress a p p r o v e d April 6, 1922, liens against Austrian assets created a f t e r the a r m i s t i c e i n respect to relief credits, have also been postponed f o r the period o f 20 years. RELATIONS WITH OTHER EUROPEAN GOVERNMENTS A protocol has been signed b y the E u r o p e a n Governments d i r e c t l y interested, including the neighboring States o f I t a l y a n d o f Czechoslovakia, to insure the e c o n o m i c and political independence o f Austria. Under the t e r m s o f this Protocol No. 1, dated October 4» 1922, the signatory States d e c l a r e d : " T h a t they will respect t h e political independence*, the territorial Integrity a n d the sovereignty o f A u s t r i a ; t h a t they w i l l n o t seek to obtain a n y special o r exclusive economic o r financial a d v a n t a g e calculated directly o r i n d i r e c t l y to compromise that independence." T h e Government o f the Federal R e p u b l i c o f A u s t r i a on i t s p a r t " undertakes, i n a c c o r d a n c e w i t h the terms o f article 88 o f the treaty o f St. Germain, not to alienate its independence; i t w i l l abstain f r o m a n y n e g o t i a t i o n s o r from any e c o n o m i c or financial engagement calculated directly o r indirectly to c o m p r o m i s e this independence/' T h e guaranty w h i c h h a s been given w i t h respect t o the b o n d s of this loan on behalf o f eight of the principal nations o f E u r o p e g i v e s these nations a very definite interest in assisting i n the m a i n t e n a n c e o f . A u s t r i a ' s political and e c o n o m i c position. $ 2 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 AUSTRIAN GOVERNMENT INTERNATIONAL LOAN 1 9 3 0 7 PER CENT GOLD BONDS, AMERICAN TRANCHE SINKING FUND B o n d s d a t e d J u l y 1, 1930; d u e J u l y 1, 1957. i n t e r e s t p a y a b l e J a n u a r y i and J u l y 1: B a n k f o r International Settlements, trustee. A c u m u l a t i v e sinking f u n d computed t o b e sufficient t o r e t i r e t h e entire a m o u n t o f t h e b o n d s o f the A m e r i c a n tranche a t o r b e f o r e m a t u r i t y I s t o be applied t o t h e p u r c h a s e o f b o n d s a t o r ^ b e l o w 103 p e r c e n t a n d a c c r u e d Interest i f obtainable, o r o t h e r w i s e t o the redemption o f b o n d s d r a w n b y l o t r R e d e e m a b l e a t 103 per c e n t and accrued interest, u p o n n o t l e s s than 6 0 days' published notice, as f o l l o w s : F o r the sinking f u n d , on J a n u a r y 1, 1932, and y e a r l y t h e r e a f t e r ; at t h e option o f t h e government a s a w h o l e o n J u l y 1, 1935, o r o n a n y interest p a y m e n t date thereafter. ^ Coupon b o n d s in d e n o m i n a t i o n s o f $1,000, $500, and $100. SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil S K C U l l I T I E S 251 Principal and interest p a y a b l e in N e w Y o r k a t t h e office o f J. 1\ M o r g a n & Co., in United States g o l d c o i n o f the s t a n d a r d o f w e i g h t a n d fineness e x i s t i n g on July 1, 11)30, w i t h o u t d e d u c t i o n f o r a n y A u s t r i a n taxes, present o r f u t u r e . Dr. Otto Juch, Federal M i n i s t e r o f F i n a n c e o f the K c p u b U c o f A u s t r i a , has furnished us with the f o l l o w i n g s t a t e m e n t r e g a r d i n g the A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t international loan 1930. a m o r e c o m p l e t e s t a t e m e n t being printed w i t h i n : The loan.—The b o n d s o f t h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t international l o a n 1030 now to be issued a r e to p r o v i d e a n e f f e c t i v e s u m e q u i v a l e n t t o o v e r $55,000,000 anil form part o f an international loan limited t o a n a m o u n t sufficient to yield in the aggregate an e f f e c t i v e s u m o f 723,000,000 s c h i l l i n g s ( e q u i v a l e n t to a b o u t $102,000,000) and issuable in the f o r m o f b o n d s o f v a r i o u s c u r r e n c i e s all o f equal rank. Concurrently w i t h the present i s s u a n c e o f the A m e r i c a n t r a n c h e iii the United States o f A m e r i c a , o t h e r t r a n c h e s a r e b e i n g issued in the f o l l o w ing-named countries in t h e f o l l o w i n g p r i n c i p a l a m o u n t s : G r e a t B r i t a i n , £3,000,000 sterling; Holland, £500.000 s t e r l i n g ; S w e d e n , 10,000,000 k r o n o r ; S w i t z e r land, 25,000,000 S w i s s f r a n c s ; I t a l y , 100.000,000 l i r e ; A u s t r i a , 50,000,000 schillings. Purpose of f>#f/r.—The b o n d s o f t h i s loan, w h i c h lias lieen a p p r o v e d b y t h e committee of control c o n s t i t u t e d in 1923. a r e issued t o p r o v i d e f o r capital expenditures incurred a n d t o Iwi i n c u r r e d f o r i m p r o v e m e n t s u p o n t h e A u s t r i a n railways and the p r o p e r t i e s o f t h e postal a n d telegraph a d m i n i s t r a t i o n . The investment program c o n t e m p l a t e d exi>enditures, f r o m 1028 t o 1932 inclusive, aggregating the e q u i v a l e n t o f a p p r o x i m a t e l y $102,000,000, o f w h i c h a b o u t 55 per cent will he p r o v i d e d b y the n e t p r o c e e d s o f t h e b o n d s of this loan b e i n g issued presently. Security.—The b o n d s o f this l o a n a r e t h e d i r e c t a n d u n c o n d i t i o n a l o b l i g a tions of the. Austrian G o v e r n m e n t a n d a r e s e c u r e d b y a c h a r g e upon the g r o s s receipts of the customs and o f t h e t o b a c c o m o n o p o l y o f A u s t r i a , s u b j e c t o n l y to the charges in f a v o r o f t h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t guaranteed loan 1923-1943,. herein referred to a s the 1923 loan, a n d t h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t Czechoslovakian conversion loan I I . N o f u r t h e r c h a r g e o n the a b o v e - m e n t i o n e d revenues may be created r a n k i n g iu p r i o r i t y t o o r e q u a l l y w i t h t h e c h a r g e s o f this loan except that the A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t r e s e r v e s t h e r i g h t t o s e c u r e ratably w i t h the bonds o f this loan the b o n d s o f a n y f u t u r e l o a n issued to p r o v i d e f o r redemption prior to m a t u r i t y o f t h e b o n d s o f a n y p o r t i o n o f t h e 1923 loan o u t standing a t the time o f such r e d e m p t i o n . The gross receipts o f t h e c u s t o m s a n d o f t h e t o b a c c o m o n o p o l y f o r the y e a r 1929 were a p p r o x i m a t e l y 000,000,000 A u s t r i a n s c h i l l i n g s ( o r a b o u t $84,400,000). The charges f o r interest a n d s i n k i n g f u n d o n the 1923 loan and t h e a b o v e mentioned Czechoslovakian l o a n , t o g e t h e r w i t h t h e c h a r g e f o r interest a n d sinking fund on the total a u t h o r i z e d a m o u n t o f the A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t international loan 1030, c o m p u t e d f o r t h e e n t i r e a u t h o r i z e d l o a n o n the s a m e basis, as the present issues and a t p a r o f e x c h a u g e , is e s t i m a t e d n o t to e x c e e d a p p r o x imately 177,100,000 A u s t r i a n s c h i l l i n g s ( o r a b o u t $24,900,000) p e r a n n u m . The pledged revenues a r e p a i d b y t h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t , a s , a n d w h e n collected, directly into an a c c o u n t u n d e r tlie c o n t r o l o f the t r u s t e e s o f t h e 1923 loan, who, a f t e r p r o v i d i n g e a c h m o n t h f o r t h e s e r v i c e o f t h a t loan a n d the Czechoslovak loan in a c c o r d a n c e w i t h t h e i r t e r m s , a r e t o release t h e b a l ance to the trustee f o r this l o a n , w h i c h , a f t e r reserving e a c h m o n t h o n e twelfth o f the a m o u n t r e q u i r e d f o r t h e c u r r e n t a n n u a l s e r v i c e o f t h i s l o a n , will release the balance t o t h e A u s t r i a n Government* An agreement h a s been m a d e b e t w e e n A u s t r i a a n d t h e p o w e r s c o n c e r n e d , subject in the case o f F r a n c e t o r a t i f i c a t i o n b y t h e l e g i s l a t u r e , b y w h i c h the amounts payable in r e s p e c t o f r e l i e f b o n d s h a v e b e e n f u n d e d f o r g r a d u a l p a y ment over a p e r i o d o f 4 0 y e a r s f r o m 1929 t o 19GS. T h e c h a r g e u p o n t h e a s s e t s , and revenues o f A u s t r i a b y w h i c h t h e r e l i e f b o n d s a r e s e c u r e d h a s been subordinated t o the c h a r g e in f a v o r o f t h e p r e s e n t l o a n . B y a n a g r e e m e n t entered into a t T h e H a g u e , d a t e d J a n u a r y 20, 1930, b e t w e e n A u s t r i a a n d ail the European c r e d i t o r i m v e r s , J a p a n , a n d o t h e r s i g n a t o r i e s , t h e financial obligations o f A u s t r i a t o w a r d t h e s e p o w e r s a r i s i n g u n d e r t h e a r m i s t i c e o f " November 3, 1918, a n d the t r e a t y o f Sr. G e r m a i n , -atid a n y t r e a t i e s o r a g r e e ments supplemental t h e r e t o , w e r e finally d i s c h a r g e d a n d t h e first c h a r g e in, favor of these p o w e r s o n alt t h e a s s e t s a n d r e v e n u e s o f A u s t r i a c r e a t e d by the treat}* o f St. G e r m a i n h a s c e a s e d t o b e operative* SALE OF FOREIGN; B O N D S OR S E C U R I T I E S , 252 T h e a b o v e b o n d s a r e o f f e r e d f o r s u b s c r i p t i o n , s u b j e c t t o t h e c o n d i t i o n s stated below, a t 95 p e r c e n t a n d a c c r u e d interest, t o y i e l d o v e r 7.40 p e r c e n t tomaturity. S u b s c r i p t i o n books, w i l l b e o p e n e d a t t h e office; o f J . P . M o r g a n & Co., a t 10 o ' c l o c k a. m . T u e s d a y , J u l y 15, 1930, a n d c l o s e d i n t h e i r d i s c r e t i o n . The r i g h t i s reserved to r e j e c t a n y a n d all a p p l i c a t i o n s , a n d a l s o , i n a n y case, to a l l o t a smaller a m o u n t than applied f o r . A l l s u b s c r i p t i o n s w i l l b e received s u b j e c t t o t h e f o r e g o i n g a n d t o t h e d u e issue a n d d e l i v e r y t o u s o f the bondsa s p l a n n e d and t o t h e a p p r o v a l b y c o u n s e l o f t h e f o r m a n d v a l i d i t y of the. bond9 a n d o f the relevant p r o c e e d i n g s and a u t h o r i z a t i o n s . T h e a m o u n t d u e o n a l l o t m e n t s w i l l b e p a y a b l e a t t h e o f f i c e o f J . P . Morgan & Co., in N e w Y o r k , f u n d s t o t h e i r o r d e r , a n d t h e d a t e o f p a y m e n t ( o n or a b o u t J u l y 28, 1930) will be stated in the n o t i c e s o f a l l o t m e n t . Interim certificates, e x c h a n g e a b l e f o r definitive b o n d s w h e n r e c e i v e d , a r e t o b e delivered. J. P . MORGAN & C o . FIRST NATIONAL B A N K . GUARANTY CO. OF NEW YORK. KIDDER, PEABODY & C o . HARRIS, FORBES & C o . BANKERS CO. OP NEW YORK. NEW YORK, July K U H N , LOEB & C o . T H E NATIONAL CITY CO. CHASE SECURITIES CORPORATION. LEE, HIGGINSON & C o . DILLON, READ & C o . 15,1930. STATEMENT REGARDING AUSTRIAN GOVERNMENT INTERNATIONAL LOAN, 1930 (Furnished b y D r . Otto Juch, F e d e r a l M i n i s t e r o f F i n a n c e o f the R e p u b l i c of Austria) The loan.—The Austrian G o v e r n m e n t i n t e r n a t i o n a l l o a n , 1930, i s a loan of a total authorized a m o u n t sufficient t o y i e l d i n t h e a g g r e g a t e a n e t effective sum not exceeding 725,000,000 Austrian schillings ( $ 1 0 2 , 0 1 2 , 1 0 1 ) . T h e loan may b e issued in v a r i o u s countries a n d c u r r e n c i e s in b o n d s o f s u c h denominations and c a r r y i n g interest a t such r a t e s a n d r e d e e m a b l e a t s u c h price as m a y be fixed by the terms o f issue, the final m a t u r i t y d a t e i n a l l c a s e s being J u l y 1, 1957. T h e bonds o f t h e loan a r e the d i r e c t a n d u n c o n d i t i o n a l obligation of the Austrian Government, a n d all r a n k p a r i p a s s u . P r i n c i p a l and interest a r e payable w i t h o u t deduction f o r a n y A u s t r i a n t a x e s , present or future. T h e present issues, c a r r y i n g interest a t t h e r a t e o f 7 p e r c e n t p e r annum and redeemable a t 103 p e r cent, a r e b e i n g m a d e in t h e f o l l o w i n g nominal a m o u n t s : United States o f A m e r i c a , $25,000,000; G r e a t B r i t a i n , £3,000,000; Holland, £500,000; Italy, 100,000,000 l i r e ; S w e d e n , 10,000,000 k r o n o r ; Switzerland, 25,000,000 Swiss f r a n c s ; and Austria, 50,000,000 A u s t r i a n schillings. Purpose* of issue.—-The loan h a s been a u t h o r i z e d f o r t h e p u r p o s e o f meeting a program o f capital expenditures incurred a n d to b e i n c u r r e d f o r productive investments upon the Austrian r a i l w a y s a n d p o s t a l a n d t e l e g r a p h administration, not exceeding in the aggregate 725,000,000 A u s t r i a n s c h i l l i n g s ($102,012,? 1 0 1 ) . T h i s program w a s submitted t o the c o m m i t t e e o f c o n t r o l , representing the v a r i o u s European Governments w h o c o o p e r a t e d In t h e p r o g r a m o f Austrian stabilization in 1923, w h o s e a p p r o v a l o f t h e l o a n h a s b e e n o b t a i n e d . T h e net proceeds o f the present issues w i l l p r o v i d e a p p r o x i m a t e l y 5 5 p e r c e n t o f these expenditures. T h e balance o f the loan m a y b e issued f r o m t i m e t o time to p r o v i d e f o r completion o f t h e p r o g r a m , " Security.—In addition t o b e i n g the d i r e c t a n d u n c o n d i t i o n a l obligation of the Austrian Government, t h e b o n d s o f t h e l o a n a r e s e c u r e d u n d e r a general bond in f a v o r o f t h e B a n k f o r International S e t t l e m e n t s a s t r u s t e e b y a charge upon the gross receipts o f the A u s t r i a n c u s t o m s a n d t o b a c c o m o n o p o l y , together w i t h a n y additional, security w h i c h m a y b e p r o v i d e d f o r t h e Austrian Government guaranteed loan, 1923-1943, and the A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t Czechoslovakia* Conversion L o a n H such c h a r g e b e i n g s u b j e c t o n l y t o t h e c h a r g e i n favor of t h e t w o last-mentioned loans. N o f u r t h e r c h a r g e o n such r e c e i p t s a n d securities m a y b e created r a n k i n g in p r i o r i t y t o o r p a r i passu w i t h t h e s e c h a r g e s , with t h e exception t h a t , t h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t r e s e r v e s t h e r i g h t t o secure pari passu w i t h the bonds o f t h e l o a n any f u t u r e l o a n issued t o p r o v i d e f o r redemption p r i o r t o m a t u r i t y o f the b o n d s o f a n y p o r t i o n o f t h e g u a r a n t e e d loan, 1923-1943, outstanding a t the t i m e o f such r e d e m p t i o n . T h e g r o s s receipts of SALE OF FOHEIGX B O N D S Oil SKCUllITIES 253 the customs and t o b a c c o m o n o p o l y f o r tlie five y e a r s e n d e d D e c e m b e r 31, 1929, have been a s f o l l o w s ( e x p r e s s e d in m i l l i o n s o f A u s t r i a n s c h i l l i n g s ) : Years ended Dec. 31— 1925 Customs. Tobacco 1937 192S 1929 . 196.0 268.6 314.0 28XS 24 L1 290.9 259.3 304.8 285.5 314.1 Total Deduct interest and sinking fund on the guaranteed loan. 1923-1943, and tbe Ctechoslovaklan Conversion T/ftti 11...... .... 464.6 497. S S3Z 0 £64.0 599.6 * „ 1938 Balance..... . 103.6 98.6 101.7 10L1 101.8 36L0 39S.7 43a 3 462.9 497.8 The annual c h a r g e f o r Interest a n d s i n k i n g f u n d o n t h e t o t a l a u t h o r i z e d amount o f the A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t i n t e r n a t i o n a l l o a n , 1930, c o m p u t e d o n the basis of the present issues a t p a r uf e x c h a n g e w o u l d a m o u n t t o a p p r o x i m a t e l y 68,600,000 schillings ($9,052,455). The pledged revenues a r e p a i d b y tlie A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t a s a n d w h e n collected directly i n t o a n a c c o u n t u n d e r t h e c o n t r o l o f the trustees o f t h e g u a r anteed loan, 1923-1943, w h o , a f t e r p r o v i d i n g e a c h m o n t h f o r the s e r v i c e o f that loan and t h e ' C z e c h o s l o v a k ! a n C o n v e r s i o n L o a n I I , In a c c o r d a n c e w i t h t h e i r c o n ditions, a r e to release the b a l a n c e t o t h e trustees f o r litis loan, w h o , a f t e r reserving each m o n t h o n e - t w e l f t h o f tlie a m o u n t required f o r t h e a n n u a l s e r v i c e o f this loan, will release tlie b a l a n c e t o t h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t In the event that in a n y y e a r t h e receipts o f the pledged revenues a r e less than 150 per cent o f tlie a g g r e g a t e a m o u n t required f o r t h e s e r v i c e s o f t h e guaranteed loan, 1923-1943, a n y loan issued t o r e f u n d the s a m e a n d r a n k i n g pari passu with this loan, t h e C h e c h o s l o v a k i a n C o n v e r s i o n L o a n I I , a n d this loan, the G o v e r n m e n t u n d e r t a k e s t o f u r n i s h s u c h f u r t h e r s e c u r i t i e s a s t h e trustee m a y require, s u b j e c t t o t h e c h a r g e in f a v o r o f the g u a r a n t e e d loan, 1923-1943, and the C z e c h o s l o v a k ! a n C o n v e r s i o n L o a n I I . An agreement h a s been m a d e b e t w e e n A u s t r i a a n d the p o w e r s c o n c e r n e d , subject in the c a s e o f F r a n c e t o r a t i f i c a t i o n b y t h e legislature, by w h i c h t h e amounts payable in r e s p e c t o f r e l i e f b o n d s h a v e been f u n d e d f o r g r a d u a l p a y ment over a period o f 4 0 y e a r s f r o m 1929 t o 190S. T h e c h a r g e u p o n t h e assets and revenues o f A u s t r i a b y w h i c h t h e r e l i e f b o n d s a r e s e c u r e d h a s been subordinated to the c h a r g e in f a v o r o f t h i s l o a n . By an agreement e n t e r e d i n t o a t T h e H a g u e , d a t e d J a n u a r y 20, 1930, between Austria a n d a i l t h e E u r o p e a u c r e d i t o r p o w e r s , J a p a n , a n d o t h e r signatories, the financial o b l i g a t i o n s o f A u s t r i a t o w a r d these p o w e r s a r i s i n g under the a r m i s t i c e o f N o v e m b e r 3 , 1918, a n d t h e t r e a t y o f S t G e r m a i n , a n d any treaties o r a g r e e m e n t s s u p p l e m e n t a l t h e r e t o , h a v e been finally d i s c h a r g e d , and the first c h a r g e In f a v o r o f t h e s e p o w e r s o n a l l t h e a s s e t s a n d r e v e n u e s o f Austria created b y t h e t r e a t y o f S t G e r m a i n h a s c e a s e d t o b e o p e r a t i v e . Loan scrvice.—The A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t c o v e n a n t s t o p a y d u r i n g the l i f e o f the loan in respect o f e a c h s e p a r a t e Issue a fixed a n n u a l s u m w h i c h , a f t e r deducting the annual interest o n the b o n d s o f such Issue a t t h e t i m e o u t s t a n d ing, is computed to b e sufficient t o r e d e e m a t i t s r e d e m p t i o n p r i c e s u c h e n t i r e issue by maturity. In respect o f the p r e s e n t issues t h e f u n d s a v a i l a b l e f o r r e d e m p t i o n w i l l b e used in the p u r c h a s e o f b o n d s , i f o b t a i n a b l e , a t o r b e l o w 103 p e r c e n t a n d accrued interest, o t h e r w i s e t o t h e r e d e m p t i o n a t 103 p e r c e n t o n t h e 1st d a y of January o f each y e a r o f b o n d s d r a w n b y l o t , t h e A u s t r i a n G o v e r n m e n t r e serving the right to r e d e e m a t 103 i>er c e n t a n d a c c r u e d interest t h e w h o l e o f the ciutstihhding a m o u n t o f a n y s e p a r a t e p r e s e n t issue o r issues o n J u l y 1, 1935, or any interest d a t e t h e r e a f t e r u p o n g i v i n g n o t less t h a n 9 0 d a y s ' p r e v i o u s notice to the T r u s t e e a n d p u b l i s h e d n o t i c e in a c c o r d a n c e w i t h t h e b o n d s o f t h e respective issues. General.—The y e a r s i m m e d i a t e l y f o l l o w i n g t h e a r m i s t i c e o f 1918 w e r e marked by the difficulties w h i c h A u s t r i a h a d t o e n c o u n t e r i n t h e a d j u s t m e n t of her economic l i f e t o t h e c o n d i t i o n s a r i s i n g f r o m h e r n e w p o l i t i c a l f r o n t i e r s . 92928—-31-HPT 1 — — 1 7 254 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, I n September, 1922,. the Austrian Government, w i t h the cooperation of the L e a g u e of Nations, adopted a definite scheme o f reconstruction w h i c h included a precise p l a n o f budget r e f o r m , the organization o f the National Bank of A u s t r i a a n d the stabilization of the Austrian currency. T h e successful issue of t h e guaranteed loan, 1923-1943, played an i m p o r t a n t p a r t in the consumm a t i o n of this scheme. T h e effective w o r k i n g of the scheme has enabled A u s t r i a to maintain a stabilized currency. On July 1930, the reserve ratio o f t h e National Bank of A u s t r i a , including all foreign exchange holdings, w a s 80.13 per cent as.,eonk pared w i t h a legal requirement o f 24 p e r cent. T h e scheme h a s also enabled Austria, a s shown below, t o establish a budgetary equilibrium, the Government's current revenues having been consistently in e x c e s s o f i t s ' c u r r e n t expenditures f o r the past five years. T o t a l receipts and expenditures of the G o v e r n m e n t a s s h o w n in the completed accounts; ( a m o u n t s expressed in millions of Austrian schillings) Years ended Dec. 31— 1925 Current receipts Current expenditures Balance, i ; Capital expenditures not included above. - 1926 1927 1928 1929 (provisional). 913.fi . 746.4 985.5 882.2 1,122.9 1,012.2 1,174.3 1,045.9, 1,197.0 1,037.2 167.1 sa 6 103.3 135.6 110.7 195.7 128.4 212.5 159.8 1207.9 i Thisfigureincludes capital expenditures covered by short-term credits given by Austrianbankers. NOTE.—In the above letter a s received f r o m the Federal M i n i s t e r o f Finance the approximate dollar equivalents o f the amounts originally expressed in Austrian schillings have been inserted in brackets a f t e r the schilling figures converted a t the rate o f 7.107 Austrian schillings to $1 United States gold. $110,000,000 GERMAN EXTERNAL LOAN, 1924, 7 PER GENT GOLD BONDS, INTEREST PAYABLE APRIL 15 AND OCTOBER 1 5 ; DATED OCTOBER 15, 1924; DUE OCTOBER 15, 1949 Nonredeemable p r i o r t o maturity, except f o r the sinking f u n d . Sinking f u n d f o r this issue, $4,620,000 a year, p a y a b l e monthly, beginning November 15, 1924; sufficient to r e t i r e annually one-twentyfiftli o f the issue a t 105 per c e n t ; b o n d s to be retired through t h e Sinking F u n d b y purchase, if obtainable at or below 105 per cent and accrued interest, o r i f n o t s o obtainable, by redemption by lot a t 105 per cent a n d accrued interest, such accrued interest i n either case to be paid otherwise than o u t o f t h e sinking f u n d . T h e bonds a r e to be redeemable, f o r the sinking f u n d on October 15 o f e a c h year, commencing October 15, 1925. Coupon bonds in denominations o f $1,000, $500 a n d $100. Principal and interest p a y a b l e in N e w Y o r k C i t y a t t h e office o f J. P. Morgan & Co. in United States gold c o i n o f t h e present standard o f weight and fineness, w i t h o u t deduction f o r any German taxes, present, o r f u t u r e . D o c t o r Luther, F i n a n c e Minister of Germany, has p r e p a r e d , and t h e Reparat i o n Commission and Owen D . Y o u n g , agent-general f o r r e p a r a t i o n payments, h a v e approved, t h e f o l l o w i n g summary, f r o m his statement dated October. 10, 1924, printed w i t h i n : -THE LOAN T h e s e b o n d s a r e p a r t of an international loan t o be issued f o r t h e purpose o f c a r r y i n g into e f f e c t the p l a n o f t h e first c o m m i t t e e o f e x p e r t s appointed by the R e p a r a t i o n Commission, f o r t h e double purpose of ensuring currency stability in G e r m a n y and of financing, especially, deliveries in k i n d during the p r e l i m i n a r y period of e c o n o m i c rehabilitation. T h e loan i s t o b e issued in Great B r i t a i n , F r a n c e , Italy, Switzerland, H o l l a n d , Belgium,. Sweden, Germany* and the U n i t e d States o f A m e r i c a , in b o n d s o f v a r i o u s currencies, a n d f o r an .amount estimated t o be sufficient t o yield in the aggregate a net s u m equivalent, at c u r r e n t rates o f exchange, to a p p r o x i m a t e l y 800,000,000 g o l d m a r k s (approxim a t e l y $190,400,000). SAUK OF FOREIGN BONDS Oil SECUH1T1ES 255 fiKCrutTY The service of interest a n d a m o r t i z a t i o n o f tlie loan i s ; (1) A direct a n d u n c o n d i t i o n a l o b l i g a t i o n o f t h e G e r m a n G o v e r n m e n t c h a r g e Able on all the assets a n d r e v e n u e s oi that G o v e r n m e n t . (2) A specific first c h a r g e o n a l l p a y m e n t s p r o v i d e d f o r u n d e r t h e D a w e s plan to o r f o r the a c c o u n t o f the a g e n t - g e n e r a l f o r r e p a r a t i o n p a y m e n t s , such charge being prior t o r e p a r a t i o n a n d o t h e r t r e a t y p a y m e n t s , w h i c h in turn have a specific p r e c e d e n c e o v e r tlie e x i s t i n g G e r m a n debt. ( 3 ) A first c h a r g e b y w a y o f c o l l a t e r a l s e c u r i t y o n the " c o n t r o l l e d r e v e n u e s , " I. e., the gross r e v e n u e s o f t h e G e r m a n G o v e r n m e n t d e r i v e d f r o m tlie c u s t o m s and from the t a x e s o n t o b a c c o , b e e r , a n d s u g a r , t h e n e t r e v e n u e o f the G e r m a n Government f r o m t h e s p i r i t s m o n o p o l y a n d s u c h t a x ( i f a n y ) , a s m a y hereafter be similarly a s s i g n e d b y t h e G e r m a n G o v e r n m e n t i n a c c o r d a n c e with the terms of the final p r o t o c o l o f t h e L o n d o n C o n f e r e n c e . T h e 41 controlled revenues " a r e e s t i m a t e d a s a m o u n t i n g a n n u a l l y t o n o t less than 1,000,000,000 gold marks ( a p p r o x i m a t e l y $240,000,000). T h e G e r m a n G o v e r n m e n t m a y not create any f u r t h e r c h a r g e u p o n t h e c o n t r o l l e d r e v e n u e s r a n k i n g p r i o r to o r equally with the c h a r g e c r e a t e d in f a v o r o f t h e b o n d s o f the loan. LONDON* PROTOCOL In the London P r o t o c o l , A n n e x I V , a r t i c l e 3 , t h e g o v e r n m e n t s o f B e l g i u m , Great B r i t a i n ( w i t h t h e g o v e r n m e n t s o f C a n a d a , A u s t r a l i a , N e w Z e a l a n d , South A f r i c a , a n d I n d i a ) , F r a n c e , G r e e c e , I t a l y , J a p a n , P o r t u g a l , R u m a n i a , and Yugoslavia, a g r e e d a s f o l l o w s : " In order to s e c u r e t h e s e r v i c e o f t h e l o a n o f 800,000,000 g o l d m a r k s c o n t e m plated b y the experts* plan, a n d in o r d e r t o f a c i l i t a t e t h e issue o f t h a t loau to the public, the s i g n a t o r y g o v e r n m e n t s h e r e b y d e c l a r e that, in c a s e s a n c t i o n s bave to be Imposed In c o n s e q u e n c e o f a d e f a u l t b y G e r m a n y t h e y w i l l s a f e guard any specific s e c u r i t i e s w h i c h m a y b e p l e d g e d to the s e r v i c e o f t h e l o a n . " T h e signatory g o v e r n m e n t s f u r t h e r d e c l a r e t h a t t h e y c o n s i d e r the s e r v i c e of the loan a s entitled t o a b s o l u t e p r i o r i t y a s r e g a r d s a n y r e s o u r c e s o f G e r m a n y so far as such r e s o u r c e s m a y h a v e b e e n s u b j e c t e d t o a g e n e r a l c h a r g e In ffcvor of the said loan, a n d a l s o a s r e g a r d s a n y r e s o u r c e s t h a t m a y a r i s e a s a result of the imposition o f s a n c t i o n s . " A t the L o n d o n C o n f e r e n c e , t h e a l l i e d g o v e r n m e n t s a d o p t e d a resolution reading a s f o l l o w s : . " T h e allied g o v e r n m e n t s , d e s i r i n g t h a t t h i s l o a n s h o u l d b e s u c c e s s f u l l y raised, and contemplating t h a t t h e l o a n w i l l b e a first l i e n o n t h e s e c u r i t y p l e d g e d thereto, will invite t h e c e n t r a l b a n k s i n t h e i r r e s p e c t i v e c o u n t r i e s t o u s e their good offices to f a c i l i t a t e t h e p l a c i n g o f t h e l o a n / ' In connection w i t h t h i s r e s o l u t i o n , a n d a t tlie request o f the g o v e r n m e n t s o f Great Britain, F r a n c e , a n d B e l g i u m , J . P . M o r g a n & Co., In a s s o c i a t i o n w i t h the undersigned, h a v e u n d e r t a k e n t h e issue o f t h e A m e r i c a n p o r t i o n o f the loan. The bonds a r e o f f e r e d f o r s u b s c r i p t i o n , s u b j e c t t o t h e c o n d i t i o n s stated b e l o w , at 92 per c e n t and a c c r u e d i n t e r e s t , to y i e l d o v e r 7.70 p e r c e n t t o m a t u r i t y . All subscriptions w i l l b e r e c e i v e d s u b j e c t t o t h e i s s u e a n d d e l i v e r y t o u s of the bonds a s p l a n n e d a n d t o t h e a p p r o v a l b y c o u n s e l o f t h e r e l e v a n t documents and p r o c e e d i n g s . Subscription b o o k s w i l l b e o p e n e d a t t h e office o f J . P . M o r g a n & Co., a t 10 o'clock a. m., T u e s d a y , O c t o b e r 14, 1924. T h e r i g h t Is r e s e r v e d t o r e j e c t any and all a p p l i c a t i o n s , a n d a l s o , i n a n y c a s e , t o a w a r d a s m a l l e r a m o u n t than applied f o r . The amounts d u e o n a l l o t m e n t s w i l l b e p a y a b l e a t t h e office o f J . P . M o r g a n & Co., in N e w Y o r k f u n d s t o t h e i r o r d e r , o n o r a b o u t O c t o b e r 30, 1924, a s called f o r , against t h e d e l i v e r y o f i n t e r i m r e c e i p t s e x c h a n g e a b l e f o r d e f i n i t i v e bonds when p r e p a r e d a n d received* X P. Morgan & Co., K u h n , L o e b & Co., First National Bank, T h e National C i t y C o . G u a r a n t y Co. o f N e w Y o r k , Bankers Trust Co., N e w Y o r k , H a r r i s , F o r b e s & Co., L e e , H i g g i n s o n & C o . , K i d d e r , P e a b o d y St Co.. D i l l o n , R e a d & C o . NBW YORK, October U, 192*. SALE OP FOREIGN* BONDS' O i l ' S E C U R I T I E S256 STATEMENT—GERMAN EXTERNAL LOAN 192-1 A r r a n g e m e n t s have been made f o r portions o f the loan to be issued in Great B r i t a i n , t h e United States o f A m e r i c a , Belgium, F r a n c e , H611and, Sweden, Switzerland, a n d Germany. T h e loan will b e issued i n the f o r m o f bonds to bearer c a r r y i n g interest a t 7 p e r cent per annum a n d repayable w i t h i n 25 years by m e a n s o f a sinking f u n d t o b e applied to the p u r c h a s e a n d / o r d r a w i n g of bonds o f t h e issue in t h e manner set f o r t h in the prospectuses r e l a t i n g t o the several issues. B o n d s issued i n t h e United States o f A m e r i c a a n d the interest thereon -will b e expressed a n d b e payable i n United States d o l l a r s ; b o n d s issued else w h e r e and the Interest thereon w i l l b e expressed a n d b e p a y a b l e in sterling o r in t h e currency o f the country of issue, a s m a y be p r o v i d e d i n t h e relative prospectuses. T h e loan is issued f o r the p u r p o s e o f c a r r y i n g i n t o effect the plan proposed t o the S e p a r a t i o n Commission b y t h e first c o m m i t t e e of experts ( t h e " D a w e s c o m m i t t e e " ) f o r the discharge o f the reparation obligations and o t h e r pecuniary liabilities of Germany u n d e r the treaty o f Versailles, which plan w a s confirmed b y the various governments concerned and b y the Reparation Commission a t the L o n d o n 1 Conference o f August, 1924. T h e German Government has undertaken to a d o p t all appropriate measures f o r carrying i n t o effect the said p l a n and f o r insuring its p e r m a n e n t operation. T h e loan is intended t o serve t h e d o u b l e ' p u r p o s e o f insuring c u r r e n c y stability in Germ a n y a n d financing, especially, deliveries in k i n d during t h e preliminary period:of economic rehabilitation/ ' . T h e rervice o f interest and amortization 1 o f t h e l o a n i s : .7 ,. (f , ( 1 ) A direct and* unconditional obligation r, of the - G e r m a n Government chargeable on all the assets and revenues o f t h a t Government.' ( 2 ) A specific first charge on* aU payments p r o v i d e d . f o r u n d e r " t h e plan t of the D a w e s committee to o r f o r the a c c o u n t of the agent-general f o r reparation payments, such charge being .prior t o reparation and' o t h e r treaty payments, which in turn have a specific precedence 1 o v e r t h e ' e x i s t i n g Gerjnari debt. ' ;1 ( 3 ) A , first charge b y w a y of collateral security on t h e : " controlled revenues," il e.. the gross revenues o f the German Government d e r i v e d f r o m the customs and f r o m the taxes on t o b a c c o ; beer, and sugar- the n e t revenue of the German Government f r o m the'spirits monopoly : i and such ; t a x ^ ( i f a n y ) as inay h e r e a f t e r b e similarly assigned b y the German Government i n - a c c o r d a n c e with the terms o f the final protocol o f the L o n d o n Conference. T h e Reparation C o m m i s s i o n h i i v e " p o s t p o n e d in f a v o r o f t h e c h a r g e s created in respect of the loan r all reparation and other charges u p o n t h e payments I to the agent-general' f o r reparation' payments, 5 including c h a r g e s , in respect of 'deliveries in" kind 1 or payments therefor, 1 whether direct o r through 1 the ! Operation o f - a n y reparation recovery a c t o r decree. ' ' i T h e annual sum required f o r - t h e Berviee-of'interest and' amortization o f the 'loan, on the basis o f present exchange rates, will n o t - e x c e e d about, 91,500,000 g o l d marks. The payments to the agent-general f o r reparation payments have been fixed at- 1,000,000,000 gold m a r k s f o r the first y e a r a n d ' a re* expected-to increase thereafter until they reach 2,500,000,000 g o l d m a r k s f o r the fifth a nd subsequent yea i'S. The annual gross l receipts o f t h e controlled revenues are estimated a t not less than 1,000,000,000 gold marks. T h e German Government m a y hot Create any f u r t h e r charge upon the controlled revenues ranking in p r i o r i t y ' t o or pari passiv w i t h t h e c h a r g e created i n f a v o r o f the bondholders o f tlii* issue. T h e G e r m a n - Government lias executed a general b o n d w h e r e b y S. Parker Gilbert ( t h e agent-general f o r reparation p a y m e n t s ) , K D . J a y , and ter Meulen h a v e been a pointed-trustees f b r the b o n d h o l d e r s o f the loan. 'In the event o f the termination o f the appointment o f a trustee, o t h e r than the agent-general f o r reparation payments, t h e p o w e r o f appointing a n e w trustee is vested in t h e remaining trustees. ' * T h e G e r m a n - Government h a v e agreed J that,' 1 5 d a y s p r i o r to the d u e date'of a n y installment o f interest and 15 d a y s p r i o r to'the d u e d a t e o f any redemption m o n e y s , t h e r e shall be paid t o the trustees t h e w h o l e o f t h e f u n d s required to m e e t the. service o f such interest and redemption. W i t h a v i e w to carrying into e f f e c t this provision, arrangement is m a d e f o r t h e p a y m e n t t o the trustees b y the agent-general f o r reparation p a y m e n t s o n the 15tli d a y o f each calendar m o n t h o f a sum equivalent to a t least one-twelfth of the v amount necessary t o m e e t t h e service o f the loan f o r o n e y e a r . ^ T h e R e p a r a t i o n C o m m i s s i o n considers i t desirable that t h e agent-general f<>r r e p a r a t i o n payments should, e x officio, b e o n e o f t h e t r u s t e e s f o r the bond- SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 257 holders. In onlcr to Insure, if ttosslble, tlie continuation of this arrangement,, the Reparation Commission will, in the event o f the |>ost of agent-general becoming vacant, consult with the remaining trustees with a view to appointing t o the vacant post a person satisfactory to them as representing the bondholders. For the purpose of providing the necessary foreign currencies for the service of the loan, the German Government, the Reparation Commission, the transfer committee, and the agent general f o r reparation payments have agreed that fuuds required to be sent abroad f o r that purpose shall have an absolute right of remittance, which right shall have priority over the remittance of funds required to be remitted In discharge o f reparation payments or other liabilities. Article 3 of Annex I V of the final protocol of the London Conference, dated August-16, 11)24: " I n order to secure the service of the loan of 800,000,000 gold marks contemplated by the experts* plan, and in order to facilitate the issue o f that loan to the public, the signatory governments hereby declare that in rase sanctions have to be imposed in consequence of a default by Germany they will safeguard any specific securities which may be pledged to the service of the loan. " T h e siguatory governments further declare that they consider the service of the loan as entitled to absolute priority a s regards any resources of Germany ho far as such resources may have been subjected to a general charge in favor of the said loan and also as regards any resources that may arise as a result of the lmiK>sition of sanctions.'* DOCTOR LUTHEK. MinUtcr of Finances of the German Reich. OCTOBER 10, 1024. REPARATION COMMISSION. Paris. October 10, mi. Dr. LLTTHETT, Minister of Finances of the German Reich. Sm: I am directed to inform you that the Reparation Commission has taken note of the statement signed by you which i s appended to the prospectuses about to be issued in connection with the German external loan, 1024, and that they have taken the neecssary action to enable the .service of the loan to be fully secured under the charges referred to In that statement. I am, sir, Your obedient servant, S . A . AEMITAOFWSMITH. Secretary General. OCTOBER 10. 1U24. J. P. MORGAN & C o . , New York, Y., United States of Atnerica. DEAR Sras: Having read the letter addressed to you by the German Finance Minister regarding the loan to produce 800,000,000 gold marks and having noted* the security to be pledged by tlie German Government therefor, such pledgebeing made effective by action of the Reparation Commission. I am glad to advise you that, a s agent general, I consider the pledge as made to be effective? and the action taken by t b e Reparation Commission, the transfer committee, the agent general, and otherwise such a s to insure the carrying out of the loan service. Yours very truly, OWKN D . YOUNG, Affcnl General for Rcpuration Payment*. $98,250,000 GERMAN GOVERNMENT INTERNATIONAL 5V& 1*KK CENT LOAN. 1 0 3 0 (35* YEAR GOLD BONDS)—UNITED STATES o r AMERICA I A SITUS, DATED JUNE 1 , 1030; DUE JUNE 1 , 1 0 0 5 ; INTEREST PAYABLE JUNE 1 AND DECEMBER 1 — B A N K FOB INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS, TRUSTEE A cumulative sinking fund, computed to be sufficient to retire the entire issue at or before maturity, is to be applied to the purchase of bonds at or below 100 per cent and accrued interest if available, o r otherwise to the redemption at that price of bonds drawn by lot. 258 SALE'••OF FOREIGN BONDS ?OR SECURITIES R e d e e m a b l e at 100 p e r cent a n d a c c r u e d interest u p o n n o t less than 45 days' p r e v i o u s notice, on June 1 of a n y y e a r t h r o u g h the s i n k i n g f u n d , a n d on June 1, 1935, a n d yearly thereafter in a m o u n t s o f n o t less than $7,500,000 principal a m o u n t at t h e option o f the G o v e r n m e n t C o u p o n b o n d s i n denominations of $1,000, $500, and $100. P r i n c i p a l and interest payable in N e w Y o r k City at the office o f J. P . Morgan & Co. in United States gold coin o f the s t a n d a r d o f w e i g h t and fineness existing o n J u n e i , 1930, w i t h o u t deduction f o r a n y German taxes,, present o r future. D r . P a u l Moldenhauer, Minister o f F i n a n c e s o f the G e r m a n R e i c h , has furnished the f o l l o w i n g f a c t s regarding the G e r m a n Government international 5% per cent loan, 1930, a m o r e complete statement being printed within : T h e payment o f the principal, interest, and sinking f u n d o f the loan Is the direct a n d unconditional obligation of the G e r m a n G o v e r n m e n t t o the bondholder, f o r w h i c h the f u l l f a i t h and credit o f the G e r m a n Government are pledged. " P r i n c i p a l and interest of b o n d s o f the U n i t e d States o f A m e r i c a issue are p a y a b l e in dollars. P a y m e n t m a y , however, a t the option o f the holder, be effected on any f o r e i g n m a r k e t w h e r e a n y o f the bonds o f t h e l o a n a r e quoted in the currency of that market at, t h e then current rate o f exchange, as set f o r t h in the general bond of the loan. " T h e s e bonds constitute part o f the German Government international s ^ per cent loan, 1930, which is to provide an aggregate e f f e c t i v e ' a m o u n t equivalent to approximately $300,000,000 b y the issuance of portions of the loan (in b o n d s of various currencies, all o f equal r a n k , without priority o f any bond over any other as to the payment of principal, interest, o r sinking f u n d ) in the f o l l o w i n g countries and in the f o l l o w i n g principal a m o u n t s : United States of America, $98,250,000; France, 2,515,000,000 f r a n c s ; Great B r i t a i n , £12,000,000 sterling; Holland. 73,000,000 florins; Sweden, 110,000,000 k r o n o r ; Switzerland, 92,000,000 Swiss f r a n c s ; Germany, 36,000,000 r e i c h s m a r k s ; Italv, 110,000,000 l i r e ; Belgium, 35,000,000 belgas., " " Two-thirds of this loan represents the capitalization o f a portion of the unconditional annuities payable by Germany a c c o r d i n g t o the n e w plan^ and the proceeds thereof will b e paid to the B a n k f o r International Settlements* for the account of the creditor p o w e r s concerned. T h e r e m a i n i n g one-third of the proceeds o f the loan will be utilized by the German Government to provide for requirements of the German R a i l w a y Co. and the G e r m a n Post Office and Telegraphs. " T h e German Government international 5 % per cent loan, 1930, is authorized by l a w of March 13, 1930, and by l a w of M a y 30, 1930, enacted b y the German R e i c h . T h e loan is issued in c o n f o r m i t y w i t h the n e w plan adopted by The H a g u e agreement and with the mobilization agreement, b o t h o f January 20, 1930, between Germany and the signatory c r e d i t o r p o w e r s , w h i c h agreements w e r e ratified by the above-mentioned l a w of M a r c h 13,1930. and, f o r the purpose of issuing the bonds of this loan, the German G o v e r n m e n t has executed its general bond to the Bank f o r International Settlements a s trustee. T h e Hague agreement, between Germany and the signatory creditor p o w e r s , ' s t a t e s ' t h e new plan is definitely accepted a s a complete and final settlement, s o f a r a s Germany is concerned, of t h e financial questions resulting f r o m the w a r . " F o r f u r t h e r particulars, r e f e r e n c e ' i s m a d e t o the m o r e detailed statement printed within. T h e B a n k f o r International Settlements h a s taken note of such statement and h a s agreed t o a c t as trustee f o r the bondholders. T h e a b o v e b o n d s a r e offered f o r subscription; subject t o the conditions stated below, a t 90 per cent and a c c r u e d interest, to yield 6.20 p e r c e n t t o maturity. . Subscription b o o k s will b e opened a t the office o f J. P . M o r g a n & Co., at 10 o ' c l o c k a. m . Thursday, June 12, 1930, and closed in their discretion. T h e right i s reserved to reject a n y and all applications, a n d also, i n a n y case, t o allot a smaller amount than applied f o r . A l l subscriptions w i l l b e received subject to t h e d u e issue and delivery t o u s o f t h e b o n d s a s planned a n d t o the approval b y c o u n s e l o f the f o r m and v a l i d i t y o f t h e b o n d s a n d of t h e r e l e v a n t proceedings a n d authorizations. SALE O F FOHEIGX The amounts d u e on a l l o t m e n t s & Co., in N e w Y o r k f u n d s t o t h e i r June 26, 1930) will b e stated in exchangeable f o r definitive b o n d s BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 259 will be p a y a b l e a t t h e office o f J . P . M o r g a n order, and the date o f payment ( o n or about tlie n o t i c e s o f a l l o t m e n t . I n t e r i m receipts, w h e n r e c e i v e d , a r e t o b e delivered. J. P. MORGAN & C o . K U H N , LOEH & C o . GUARANTY CO. OF NKW YORK. HARRIS, FORIIES & C o . KIDDER, PEABODY & C o . FIRST NATIONAL B A N K . BANKERS CO. OP NEW YORK. T i n s NATIONAL CITY C o . CHASE SECURITIES CORPORATION. LEE, HIGGINSON & C o . DILLON. READ & C o . NEW YORK, June 12, 1030. STATEMENT REGARDING GERMAN GOVERNMENT INTERNATIONAL 5ft PES CENT LOAN, 1930 (By D o c t o r M o l d e n h a u c r , M i n i s t e r o f F i n a n c e s o f the G e r m a n G o v e r n m e n t ) Arrangements h a v e been m a d e f o r p o r t i o n s o f t h e loan t o b e issued in B e l gium, France, G e r m a n y , G r e a t B r i t a i n , H o l l a n d , I t a l y , S w e d e n , S w i t z e r l a n d , and the United S t a t e s o f A m e r i c a . T l i e l o a n will b e issued in t h e f o r m o f bonds to bearer, w h i c h m a y l>e o f v a r i o u s d e n o m i n a t i o n s a n d c u r r e n c i e s c a r rying interest a t 5 % p e r c e n t p e r a n n u m , r e p a y a b l e in 3 5 y e a r s b y m e a n s o f a cumulative annual s i n k i n g f u n d to b e a p p l i e d in the p u r c h a s e a n d / o r d r a w ing of bonds in the m a n n e r s e t f o r t h in t h e p r o s p e c t u s e s relating t o t h e s e v e r a l issues. T h e G e r m a n G o v e r n m e n t r e s e r v e s t h e r i g h t o n o r a f t e r the 1 s t o f June, 1035, to redeem a t p a r ( 1 0 0 p e r c e n t ) a n d a c c r u e d interest, the w h o l e of the outstanding b o n d s o f the l o a n o r a n y p a r t t h e r e o f , b e i n g the e q u i v a l e n t of approximately $30,000,000 ( U n i t e d S t a t e s ) , o r m u l t i p l e s t h e r e o f , in the manner prescribed by t h e g e n e r a l b o n d . ,Thaibonds will b e e x p r e s s e d a n d p a y a b l e in t h e c u r r e n c y o f t h e c o u n t r y o f issue a t the equivalent o f i t s p r e s e n t g o l d value* B o t h p r i n c i p a l a n d interest will b e payable in t h e r e s p e c t i v e c o u n t r i e s o f issue, b u t p a y m e n t m a y b e obtained in any f o r e i g n m a r k e t w h e r e a n y issue o f t h e l o a n is q u o t e d in the currency o f that c o u n t r y a t t h e c u r r e n t r a t e o f e x c h a n g e . A n y f u r t h e r p a r ticulars will be p r o v i d e d in the r e l a t i v e p r o s p e c t u s e s . The various p o r t i o n s o f t h e l o a n w i l l b e f o r a m o u n t s sufficient t o y i e l d in the aggregate a n e f f e c t i v e s u m , e q u i v a l e n t t o a p p r o x i m a t e l y $300,000,000 (United S t a t e s ) , a f t e r p r o v i d i n g f o r the e x p e n s e s o f issue, o f negotiations, a n d of delivery. Under the n e w p l a n a d o p t e d b y T h e H a g u e a g r e e m e n t b e t w e e n G e r m a n y and the creditor p o w e r s signed o n 20th J a n u a r y , 1030, the right is r e s e r v e d to capitalize the u n c o n d i t i o n a l ( n o n p o s t p o n a b l e ) a n n u i t i e s p a y a b l e t o t h e creditor p o w e r s by G e r m a n y in p u r s u a n c e o f tlie plan. T h e u n c o n d i t i o n a l annuities: amount to 012,000,000 r e l o h s m a r k s ($145,778,400), t o g e t h e r with the sums required f o r t h e s e r v i c e o f the G e r m a n e x t e r n a l loan, 1924, a n d a r e payable,by G e r m a n y t o t h e B a n k f o r I n t e r n a t i o n a l Settlements in f o r e i g n c u r rencies on a gold o r g o l d e x c h a n g e s t a n d a r d . O f t h e p r o c e e d s o f tlie loan, two-thirds represent the c a p l t a l i z a t i a n o f a p o r t i o n o f the u n c o n d i t i o n a l a n n u ities payable to the c r e d i t o r p o w e r s b y G e r m a n y a c c o r d i n g t o t h e n e w p l a n , and such amount will b e p a i d to t h e B a n k f o r I n t e r n a t i o n a l Settlements, f o r the account o f the c r e d i t o r p o w e r s c o n c e r n e d . T h e r e m a i n i n g one-third o f the proceeds o f t h e l o a n w i l l b e p a i d t o the B a n k f o r I n t e r n a t i o n a l S e t t l e m e n t s for the account o f the G e r m a n G o v e r n m e n t , a n d w i l l b e u t i l i z e d t o p r o v i d e f o r the requirements Of t h e G e r m a n R a i l w a y Co. a n d t h e G e r m a n P o s t Office and Telegraphs. The payment o f t h e p r i n c i p a l , Interest, a n d s i n k i n g f u n d o f t h e l o a n i s t h e direct and u n c o n d i t i o n a l o b l i g a t i o n o f the G e r m a n G o v e r n m e n t t o the b o n d holder, f o r which t h e f u l l f a i t h a n d .credit o f tlie G e r m a n G o v e r n m e n t a r e pledged. The sums required f o r t h e s e r v i c e o f the l o a n w i l l b e p a y a b l e b y e q u a l monthly Installments o n t h e 15th d a y o f e a c h c a l e n d a r m o n t h t o the B a n k f o r International Settlements, w h o a s t r u s t e e f o r t h e b o n d h o l d e r s w i l l place 1 t h e said sums in a single a c c o u n t e x c l u s i v e l y a n d s o l e l y r e s e r v e d to tlie service* o f the loan. T h e s e s u m s w i l l c o m p r i s e : i(a) As t o two-thirds, c u r r e n c i e s o n a g o l d o r g o l d e x c h a n g e , s t a n d a r d , t h e equivalent o f a p p r o x i m a t e l y 63,800,000 r e i c h s m a r k s ($15,197,160), b e i n g p a r t of the unconditional a n n u i t i e s t o b e p a i d t o t h e B a n k f o r I n t e r n a t i o n a l Settle* 260 SALE OF FOREIGN; BONDS OR SECURITIES, m e n t s b y G e r m a n y and distributed b y the b a n k in a c c o r d a n c e w i t h the terms of the n e w plan. \ ( b ) A s t o one-third, currencies on a gold or gold e x c h a n g e standard, the equivalent o f approximately 31,900,000 reichsmarks ($7,598,580), to be paid by the G e r m a n Government out of its general revenues. B y T h e H a g u e agreement the n e w plan w a s definitely accepted a s a complete and final settlement, in so f a r a s Germany i s concerned, o f the financial questions resulting f r o m the war, thus carrying to a conclusion t h e w o r k initiated by the adoption of the D a w e s plan in 1924. T h e n e w plan c a m e into f o r c e on the 17th o f May, 1930. T h e German Government h a s a d o p t e d all appropriate measures f o r securing its continued operation and the B a n k f o r International Settlements has been f u l l y constituted, and has undertaken to c a r r y out the duties assigned to it under the plan. T h e n e w plan provides f o r , payment by German to the creditor powers of a series of unconditional annuities and postponable annuities out o f her general revenues. These annuities increase f r o m 1,041,600,000 reichsmarks ($391,029,120) in the year ending M a r c h 31, 1931, to 2,352,700,000 r e i c h s m a r k s ($560,413,140) in the y e a r ending March 31, 1966. T h e r e a f t e r , the annuities are reduced to considerably smaller annual payments, ending i n the y e a r 19S8. T h e w h o l e o f the annuities under the n e w plan a r e payable to tlie Bank for International Settlements which is charged with the duty o f paying and distributing therefrom in accordance with the provisions of the n e w plan and subject to the service o f the German external loan, 1924 ( w h i c h averages app r o x i m a t e l y 76,500,000 reichsmarks ($18,222,300) annually till 1949), first, the amounts o f the unconditional annuities, including the service of bonds issued in capitalization thereof, and next, the a m o u n t s o f the postponable annuities referred t o nbove. E x c e p t in connection with ah issue o f bonds f o r the capitalization of part of the unconditional annuities f o r the purpose o f the internal conversion of the national debt o f a creditor p o w e r w h i c h can b e quoted o n l y on t h e market of issue, no f u r t h e r issue of bonds f o r capitalization can b e m a d e e x c e p t through the B a n k f o r International Settlements, acting as trustee f o r t h e creditor powers, i f and in so f a r as is deemed opportune b y the b a n k : such f u r t h e r loans, whether f o r the purpose of internal conversion or not, will r a n k as .to payment pari passu with the present loan. B y w a y of guaranty f o r the service o f the annuities, the German Governm e n t has, in accordance with t h e n e w plan, created a fixed annual direct tax of 660,000,000 reichsmarks ($157,212,000) on the German R a i l w a y Co. for 37 years, such tax e n j o y i n g p r i o r i t y o v e r any t a x n o w o r h e r e a f t e r t o be levied on the r a i l w a y company. Under the n e w plan, the G e r m a n Government has f u r t h e r undertaken, w i t h o u t prejudice to the securities f o r the G e r m a n external loan, 1924, t o reserve, f r e e f r o m any charge f o r any o t h e r loan o r credit, the proceeds o f the customs, tobacco, beer, and alcohol ( m o n o p o l y , administration) duties, s a v e with t h e consent o f the B a n k f o r International Settlements, and then, only subject to the priority i n f a v o r o f t h e annuities a s provided f o r ia the n e w plan. U n d e r the D a w e s plan the standard a n n u i t y in 1928-29 amounted to 2,500,000,000 reichsmarks ($595,500,000), w h i l e u n d e r the n e w plan the maxim u m a m o u n t payable during the first 10 y e a r s t o t h e c r e d i t o r powers is 1,938,100,000 reichsmarks ($461,655,420). T h e a v e r a g e increase in the budg e t a r y contribution during the first 20 y e a r s is a p p r o x i m a t e l y one-fourth of ! per cent o f the total revenues o f the budget o f the German R e i c h , w h i c h f o r the fiscal y e a r 1929-30 w e r e just below 10,000,000,000 reichsmarks ($2,382,000,000). Minister JUNE 10, 1930. D r . PAUL MOLDENHAUER, of Finances of the German Reich. T h e B a n k f o r International Settlements h a s taken note o f the contents of the f o r e g o i n g statement and has agreed to act a s trustee f o r t h e bondholders of the G e r m a n G o v e r n m e n t international 5 % p e r c e n t loan, 1930. BANK BASLE, June 10, 1830. FOR INTERNATIONAL BY GATES W . MCGARRAH, SETTLEMENTS, ? President NOTE.—In the a b o v e letter a s received f r o m : the Minister o f Finances the a p p r o x i m a t e dollar equivalents o f the a m o u n t s originally expressed in reichsm a r k s h a v e been inserted In parentheses a f t e r the r e i c h s m a r k figures. On® r e i c h s m a r k equals $0.2382 United States gold. SALE OF FOHEIGX BONDS Oil SKCUllITIES 261 $150,000,000 IMPERIAL JAPANESE GOVERNMENT EXTERNAL IXJAN OF 1024, 30-YEAR SINKING FUND PER CENT GOLD BONDS, DATED FEBRUARY 1, 1934, INTEREST PAYABLE FEBRUARY 1 AND AUGUST 1. DUB FEBRUARY 1. 1054, NONREDEEMABLE FOB 15 YEARS Principal and interest payable in Now York City, in United States gold coin of tbe present standard o f weight and fineness, without deduction f o r any ^Japanese taxes, present o r future. Coupon b o n d s in denominations o f $1,000, $500, and $100. Redeemable as a w h o l e o r in part, a t par and accrued interest, at the option of the Government, upon 00 days" notice, on o r a f t e r February 1, 1939. Monthly sinking-fund payments at the f o l l o w i n g annual rates, commencing August 1, 1024. and continuing while any o f the dollar bonds are outstanding, will be used to purchase such bonds, in the market a t not exceeding 100 per cent and accrued interest: F r o m August 1, 1024, to July 1, 1920, inclusive, $5,000,000 per a n n u m ; f r o m August 1, 1020, to July 1, 1934, inclusive, $4,000,000 per annum; from August 1, 1034. to maturity, $3,000,000 per annum. The following statement concerning the Iwnds has been prepared f o r us by Mr. Kengo Mori, special finance delegate o f the Imperial Japanese Government: Authorized issue: T h e Imperial Japanese Government external loan of 1924 is to be an international loan to b e Issued in the United States o f America. England, and Holland, a s f o l l o w s : United States and Holland England $150,000,000 £25,000,000 The bonds of this loan are t o b e direct external obligations of the Imperial Japanese Government. B o n d s o f the American and Dutch issue ure to be payable in United States gold coin or, at the option o f the holder, in London in sterling at an exchange r a t e o f $4.8005 to the pound sterling. Bonds of the English issue are to b e payable in sterling only. T h e issue in Holland will be made by Messrs. H o p e & Co. and their associates, at the same price as in New York. The issue In England will be o f 35-year 0 per cent bonds t o be offered at 87% per cent and Interest, yielding about 0.90 per cent b y the Westminster Bank (Ltd.), Hong K*mg & Shanghai Banking Corporation, Yokohama Specie Bank ( L t d . ) , Messrs. Baring Bros. & Co. ( L t d . ) , Messrs. Morgan GrenfeU & Co., Messrs. N. M. Rothschild & S<»ns, und M e s s r s J. Henry Schroder & Co. Special provisions: T h e Japanese Government covenants that if, while any of the bonds of this loan a r e outstanding, it shall secure any loan by a lien or charge upon any of its specific revenues o r assets, it will secure the bonds of this loan equally and ratably with any obligations secured by such lien or charge. Sinking f u n d : T h e Japanese Government covenants that, commencing August 1, 1924, and continuing while any o f the dollar bonds a r e outstanding, it will deposit in New Y o r k with the Y o k o h a m a Specie Bank ( L t d . ) , its fiscal agents, in equal monthly installments the f o l l o w i n g sums t o be used a s a sinking fund to purchase such dollar b o n d s in the market at not exceeding 100 per cent and accrued interest, viss.; F o r each of the five years f r o m August 1, 1924, to July 31, 1929, $5,000.000; f o r each o f the five years f r o m August 1, 1929. to July 31, 1934. $4,000,000; and annually f r o m August 1, 1934, t o maturity, $3,000,000. If in any month bonds are n o t obtainable a t o r under 100 per cent and accrued interest, the unused portion o f the monthly sinking f u n d payment at the end of the month will revert to the Japanese Government. A separate sinking fund will apply t o the English Issue. Purpose of issue: T h e proceeds of this loan a r e to be used, in part, to retire the outstanding balance o f the Imperial Japanese Government per cent sterling loan, first and second series, d u e February 15, 1925, and July 10, 1925, respectively, and, in part, to purchase materials and supplies f o r tlie reconstruction necessitated b y the earthquake and fire o f September, 1023. Of the above-mentioned 4 % p e r cent sterling loan originally issued in the aggregate amount o f £60,000,000, a b o u t £25,000,000, or 40 per cent, has already been retired by tlie Japanese Government through purchases in the market* leaving outstanding such b o n d s o f a p a r value equivalent, at the fixed r a t e o f exchange named in the bonds, t o approximately $170,500,000. T h e Japanese Government is to call these outstanding b o n d s f o r redemption o n October 1, 1924, at par ($974 p e r £200 b o n d ) together with a c c r u e d interest t o that date, ia accordance with its right o f redemption expressed in the bonds. 262 SALE OP FOREIGN : BONDS-.DR SECURITIES T h e Government's reconstruction p r o g r a m calls f o r an estimated expenditure b y the Government o f about $700,000,000, o f w h i c h it i s expected that about $300,000,000. will b e spent in .purchases outside o f Japan. T h i s l a t t e r suni; is t o b e m a d e available f r o m the proceeds of this l o a n and f r o m existing funds n o w a t the disposal o f the Japanese Government in N e w Y o r k and in London. I t is t h e intention o f the Government that the r e m a i n d e r o f the funds for reconstruction purposes shall be raised in J a p a n . T h i s loan, together with the existing f o r e i g n balances mentioned, will, theref o r e , p r o v i d e not only f o r the retirement o f substantially the w h o l e of the Japanese Government's external debt maturing p r i o r to 1931, b u t also for the J a p a n e s e Government's entire estimated financial requirements in foreign m a r k e t s f o r reconstruction w o r k . P r e v i o u s i s s u e s : T h i s l o a n i s . t h e first direct external issue m a d e by the I m p e r i a l Japanese Government i n the A m e r i c a n market since 1905, the year of the Russo-Japanese W a r . I n M a r c h and in J u l y of t h a t year, part of the 4 % p e r c e n t sterling loan, a b o v e referred to, w a s offered to yield about 5.32 p e r cent, and, in November, part o f an international 4 per. cent loan, maturing in 1931, w a s offered to yield approximately 4.67 per cent. T h e s e offerings in the United States aggregated about $137,500,000 p a r value o f bonds.. W e o f f e r the above bonds f o r subscription, subject t o allotment, at 9 2 $ p e r cent and accrued interest, t o yield 7.10 p e r cent to maturity. A l l subscriptions will be received subject to the issue and delivery to us of the bonds a s planned and to the approval by o u r counsel of their f o r m and validity. Subscription books will be opened a t the office o f J. P . M o r g a n & Co., at 10 o'clock a. m., F r i d a y , F e b r u a r y 15, 1924. T h e r i g h t is reserved t o reject any and all applications, and also, in any case, t o a w a r d a smaller a m o u n t than applied f o r . T h e amounts due on allotments will b e payable a t the office o f J. P., Morjiati. & Co., in N e w Y o r k f u n d s to their order, o n o r a b o u t M a r c h 3, 1924, a s callea f o r , against the delivery of interim receipts o r , t e m p o r a r y bonds, pending the preparation o f definitive bonds. . P a y m e n t s f o r bonds allotted m a y b e m a d e in the bonds of the Imperial Japanese Government 4 % per cent sterling loan o f 1905, first and second series, due, respectively, F e b r u a r y 15, 1925, and July 10, 1925, with u n m a t u r e d coupons attached, which will be accepted at prices equivalent to a 4 % per c e n t interest yield basis computed f r o m the date o f p a y m e n t o f subscriptions to October. 1, 1924, the date as o f w h i c h the 4 % per cent bonds a r e to be called f o r redemption as a b o v e stated. T h e par value o f all Japanese Government bonds quoted on the N e w York Stock E x c h a n g e i s $974 per £200 bond. J. P . , MORGAN & C o . , K U H N , LOEB & C o . , T H E NATIONAL CITY CO., FIRST NATIONAL BANK, NEW YORK, February New 11, 1924. York. T h e f o l l o w i n g information concerning the Imperial Japanese Government, e x t e r n a l loan of 1924 and the general resources of Japan, h a s been furnished b y M r . K e n g o Mori, special finance delegate o f t h e Imperial Japanese Govern-, ment. Conversion o f yen into dollars, w h e r e m a d e , has been figured at two yen t o t h e dollar, as against p a r i t y o f 49.S5 cents per yen. THE LOAN AND ITS PURPOSE T h e I m p e r i a l Japanese Government external loan o f 1924 is to be an international loan to b e issued in the United S t a t e s - o f . A m e r i c a , < England.: and Holland, as follows: * fUU n i t e d States a n d H o l l a n d — E n g l a n d . - - — — 1 £ 2 5 , 0 0 0 , $150,000. 000 0 0 0 T h e b o n d s o f this loan a r e to b e direct external obligations o f t h e i m p e r i a l Japanese Government. B o n d s o f the A m e r i c a n and D u t c h i s s u e a r e to be p a y a b l e , b o t h as t o principal a n d interest, in United States g o l d c o i n ? of\ the SALK OF F011K1GX BONDS OH SECURITIES 263 present standard o f weight a n d fineness In New Y o r k City at the office of the Yokohama Specie Bank ( L t d . ) or, a t the option of the holder, in London, In sterling at an exchange rate of $18605 to t h e pound sterling., Such payment of principal and interest, whether in dollars o r in sterling, is to be m a d e without deduction f o r a n y t a x o r taxes n o w o r a t any time hereafter imposed by the Imperial Japanese Government, o r by a n y taxing authority thereof or. thereunder. T h e Japanese Government will require s i r months' notice of the intention of bondholders to present their bonds f o r payment a t maturity in sterling or two montlis' notice f o r suchi payment pursuant to any call f o r earlier redemption. Bonds o f the English issue are to be payable in sterling only. h The issue in Holland will be made by Messrs. H o p e & Co., the Nederlandsche Handel-MaatschupplJ, Messrs. Lippman, Rosenthal & Co. a n d the T w e n U c h e Bank, at the same price as in New York. T h e issue in England will be o i 35-year 6 per ccnt bonds, to be offered a t 87*6 per cent a n d interest, yielding about 6.06 per cent t by the Westminster B a n k ( L t d . ) , H o n g Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation, Yokohama Specie Bank ( L t d . ) , Messrs. Baring Bros. & Co. (Ltd.), Messrs. Morgan Grenfell & Co., Messrs. X . M. Rothschild & Sons, and Messrs. J. Henry Schroder & Co. The proceeds of this loan are to bo used, in part, to retire tha outstanding balance of the Imperial Japanese Government 4 % per cent sterling loan, first and second series, due February 15, 1025, a n d J u l y 10, 1025, respectively, and, i n part, to purchase materials and supplies f o r the reconstruction necessitated by the earthquake and fire of September, 1023. Of the above-mentioned 4 Mi per cent sterling lo