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UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
JAMES J. DAVIS, Secretary

BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS
ETHELBERT STEWART, Commissioner

BULLETIN OF THE UNITED STATES \
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BUREAU OF LABOR S T A T IS T IC S /.....................IlOe DUO
M I S C E L L A N E O U S

S E R I E S

ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTAL
OFFICIALS IN INDUSTRY OF THE
UNITED STATES AND CANADA
[Formerly Association ol Governmental Labor Officials]

SIXTEENTH ANNUAL CONVENTION
TORONTO, CANADA, JUNE 4 -7
1929

JANUARY, 1930

UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
WASHINGTON : 1930

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CONTENTS

Officers, 1928-29____________________________________________________
Constitution_______________________________________________________
Development of the Association of Governmental Officials in Industry
of the United States and Canada__________________________________

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TUESDAY, JUNE 4^-EVENING SESSION
James H. H. Ballantyne, Deputy Minister of Labor, Ontario, Presiding

Stabilization of employment in industry, by J. S. McLean, president
Canada Packers__________________________________________________

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WEDNESDAY, JUNE 5—MORNING SESSION
Business Session—Maud Swett, President A. G. O. I., Presiding

Report of the secretary-treasurer, May 21, 1928, to May 30, 1929____
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New labor legislation:
Report of Arkansas (by Mr. Rooksbery)_________________________
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Report of Iowa (by Mr. Urick)__________________________________
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Report of Kentucky (by Mr. Seiller)_____________________________
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Report of Massachusetts (by General Sweetser)___________________
Report of Massachusetts (by Miss Johnson)______________________
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Report of Minnesota (by Mr. McColl)___________________________
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Report of New Hampshire (by Mr. Davie)_______________________
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Report of New Jersey (by Colonel Blunt)________________________
Report of New York (by Doctor Patton)_________________________
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Report of Pennsylvania (by Mr. Ainsworth)---------------------------------19
Report of Alberta (by Mr. Smitten)_____________________________
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Report of Ontario (by Mr. Ballantyne)___________________________
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Necessity for safety standardization in the United States—how can this
be brought about? by Lewis DeBlois, director safety engineering
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division, National Bureau of Casualty and Surety Underwriters---------Discussion_____________________________________________________
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Ethelbert Stewart, of Washington, D. C.
Lewis DeBlois, of New York.
John S. B. Davie, of New Hampshire.
Cyril Ainsworth, of Pennsylvania.
John Roach, of New Jersey.
E. Leroy Sweetser, of Massachusetts.
Eugene B. Patton, of New York.
Edward F. Seiller, of Kentucky.
Report of safety code correlating committee (by Mr. Ainsworth)______ ____31
Report on cranes, derricks, and hoists (by Doctor Patton)_____________ ____33
Report on dust explosion codes (by Mr. Burke)_______________________ ____33
Report on code of colors for gas mask canisters (by Mr. Roach)____________35
Report of safety code correlating committee (by Mr. Meade)__________ ____35
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 5—AFTERNOON SESSION
Business Session—Maud Swett, President A. G. O. I., Presiding

Report of committee on statistics____________________________________
Charles E. Baldwin, of Washington, D. C.
Lewis De Blois, of New York.
James H. H. Ballantyne, of Ontario.
Report of committee on calendar (by Mr. Stewart)------------------------------Committees appointed__________________ ____________________________
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Co n t e n t s

Employment—James H. H. Ballantyne, Deputy Minister of Labor, Ontario, Presiding

Some facts and reflections regarding employment and unemployment
statistics, by R. A. Rigg, director Employment Service, Department
of Labor, Canada_________________________________________________
A decade of public employment work in Ontario, by H. C. Hudson, general
superintendent Ontario Government Offices, Employment Service of
Canada__________________________________________________________
Discussion_____________________________________________________
James H. H. Ballantyne, of Ontario.
John S. B. Davie, of New Hampshire.
Ethel M. Johnson, of Massachusetts.
R. A. Rigg, of Ontario.
H. C. Hudson, of Ontario.

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THURSDAY, JUNE 6—MORNING SESSION
Ethel M. Johnson, Assistant Commissioner Massachusetts Department of Labor and
Industries, Presiding

Relation of Women’s Bureau to State departments of labor, by Mary
Anderson, director United States Women's Bureau__________________
Discussion_____________________________________________________
Edward F. Seiller, of Kentucky.
Mary Anderson, of Washington, D. C.
Agnes L. Peterson, of Washington, D. C.
W. A. Rooksbery, of Arkansas.
Ethel M. Johnson, of Massachusetts.
Marguerite Marsh, of New York.
Administration of the minimum wage law in Ontario, by Dr. J. W. Mac­
Millan, chairman minimum wage board, Ontario____________________
Discussion----------------------- --------------------------------------------------------E. Leroy Sweetser, of Massachusetts.
J. W. MacMillan, of Ontario.
Ethelbert Stewart, of Washington, D. C.
Ethel M. Johnson, of Massachusetts.
Marguerite Marsh, of New York.
Eugene B. Patton, of New York.
Agnes L. Peterson, of Washington, D. C.
Norman McKenzie, of Nova Scotia.
H. G. Fester, of Ontario.
John Roach, of New Jersey.
Maud Swett, of Wisconsin.
R. A. Stapells, of Ontario.
Walter Smitten, of Alberta.
Mary Anderson, of Washington, D. C.
Reports on investigation of home work----------------- -----------------------------Ethel M. Johnson, of Massachusetts.
E. N. Matthews, of Washington, D. C.
Mrs. E. Gurnett, of Ontario.
H. G. Fester, of Ontario.
Maud Swett, of Wisconsin.
Marguerite Marsh, of New York.
Agnes L. Peterson, of Washington, D. C.
Eugene B. Patton, of New York.
Cyril Ainsworth, of Pennsylvania.
How to cope with the hazard of juvenile employment__________________
Ethel M. Johnson, of Massachusetts.
Marguerite Marsh, of New York.
Walter Smitten, of Alberta.
Cyril Ainsworth, of Pennsylvania.
Agnes L. Peterson, of Washington, D. C.
Maud Swett, of Wisconsin.
E. N. Matthews, of Washington, D. C.




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THURSDAY, JUNE 6—AFTERNOON SESSION
E. Leroy Sweetser, Commissioner Massachusetts Department of Labor and Industries,
Presiding

Promotion of safety education through State departments of labor, by
William T. Blake, director department of industrial relations, Ohio__
Discussion________ -____________________________________________
E. Leroy Sweetser, of Massachusetts.
William T. Blake, of Ohio.
Ethelbert Stewart, of Washington, D. C.
Promotion of safety education through Provincial departments of labor,
by Walter Smitten, commissioner of labor, Alberta__________________
Discussion_____________________________________________________
H. A. Clarke, of Ontario.
Ethel M. Johnson, of Massachusetts.
Walter Smitten, of Alberta.
E. Leroy Sweetser, of Massachusetts.
Eugene B. Patton, of New York.
Cyril Ainsworth, of Pennsylvania.
A. L. Urick, of Iowa.
History of Association of Governmental Officials in Industry, by Louise
E. Schutz, secretary-treasurer_____________________________________
Discussion-------------------------------------------------------------------------------E. Leroy Sweetser, of Massachusetts.
John S. B. Davie, of New Hampshire.
F. J. Plant, of Ontario.
Maud Swett, of Wisconsin.

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FRIDAY, JUNE 7—MORNING SESSION
Business Session—Maud Swett, President A. G. O. I., Presiding

Report on safety in spray-painting industry__________________________ __ 120
Report regarding Resolution No. 7, relating to building construction
safety code, adopted in New Orleans in 1928__________________________ 120
Report of committee on officers’ reports______________________________ __ 121
Report of committee on resolutions__________________________________ __ 121
Report of committee on constitution__ _____________________________ __ 124
Election of officers____________________________________________________ 126
Place of next meeting_______________________________________________ __ 126
Factory Inspection—Eugene B. Patton, New York Department of Labor, Presiding

Factory inspection—its history and administration, by James T. Burke,
chief inspector of factories, Ontario________________________________
How factory inspectors can best assist in accident prevention, by Arthur
MacNamara, assistant deputy minister of public works and chief in­
spector bureau of labor, Manitoba-------------------------------------------------Factory inspection as a profession, by Ethel Hanks Van Buskirk, special
investigator American Association for Labor Legislation_____________
Discussion_____________________________________________________
Ethel M. Johnson, of Massachusetts.
Mrs. E. H. Van Buskirk, of New York.
Eugene B. Patton, of New York.
James T. Burke, of Ontario.
Ethelbert Stewart, of Washington, D. C.
Hugh Stevenson, of Ontario.

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FRIDAY, JUNE 7—AFTERNOON SESSION
Workmen’s Compensation—W. A. Rooksbery, Commissioner Arkansas Bureau of Labor
and Statistics, Presiding

Trend of workmen’s compensation laws, by John B. Andrews, secre­
tary American Association for Labor Legislation____________________
Discussion-------------------------------------------------------------------------------James H. H. Ballantyne, of Ontario.
Ethelbert Stewart, of Washington, D. C.
Eugene B. Patton, of New York.




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Some aspects of compensation work in Ontario, by Victor A. Sinclair,
K. C., chairman workmen’s compensation board, Ontario____________
Discussion_____________________________________________________
Ethelbert Stewart, of Washington, D. C.
Victor A. Sinclair, of Ontario.
Ethel M. Johnson, of Massachusetts.
Maud Swett, of Wisconsin.
A. L. Urick, of Iowa.
Industrial poisons, by John Roach, deputy commissioner of labor, New
Jersey (read by Mr. Urick) ---------- ----------------------------------------------Discussion_____________________________________________________
Dr. W. E. Obetz, of Ohio.
Ethelbert Stewart, of Washington, D. C.
Dr. John B. Andrews, of New York.
Ethel M. Johnson, of Massachusetts.
Best methods to prevent injuries from the use of industrial poisons, by
Dr. J. Grant Cunningham, director industrial hygiene division, depart­
ment of health, Ontario___________________________________________
Specific occupational diseases, by Dr. A. J. Lanza, assistant medical
director, Metropolitan Life Insurance Co___________________________
Honorary life members______________________________________________

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APPENDIXES
A p p e n d ix A . — Association

of Governmental Officials in Industry repre­
sentation on safety code projects___________________________________
A p p e n d ix B.— List of persons who attended the sixteenth annual con­
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OFFICERS, 1928-29
President.—Andrew P. McBride, M. D., Trenton, N. J.
First vice president.—Maud Swett, Milwaukee, Wis.
Second vice president.—James H. H. Ballantyne, Toronto, Ontario.
Third vice president.—W. A. Rooksbery, Little Rock, Ark.
Fourth vice president.—E. Leroy Sweetser, Boston, Mass.
Fifth vice president.—Eugene B. Patton, New York, N. Y.
Secretary-treasurer.—Louise E. Schutz, St. Paul, Minn.
CONSTITUTION
Adopted at Chicago, 111., May 20, 1924; amended August 15, 1925; June 3, 1927;
May 24, 1928
A rticle I
1. Name.—This organization shall be known as the Association of
Governmental Officials in Industry of the United States and Canada.1
S e c t io n

A rticle II
1. Objects.—To encourage the cooperation of all branches of Federal,
State, and Provincial Governments who are charged with the administration
of laws and regulations for the protection of women and children, and the
safety and welfare of all workers in industry; to maintain and promote the
best possible standards of law enforcement and administrative method; to
act as a medium for the interchange of information for and by the members
of the association in all matters pertaining to the general welfare of men,
women, and young workers in industry; to aid in securing the best possible
education for minors which will enable them to adequately meet the constantly
changing industrial and social changes; to promote the enactment of legis­
lation that conforms to and deals with the ever recurring changes that take
place in industry, and in rendering more harmonious relations in industry
between employers and employees; to assist in providing greater and better
safeguards to life and limb of industrial workers; and to cooperate with other
agencies in making the best and safest use of property devoted to industrial
purposes; to secure by means of educational methods, a greater degree of
interstate and interprovincial uniformity in the enforcement of labor laws
and regulations; to assist in the establishment of standards of industrial
safety that will give adequate protection to workers; to encourage Federal,
State, and Provincial labor departments to cooperate in compiling and dis­
seminating statistics dealing with employment, unemployment, earnings, hours
of labor and other matters of interest to industrial, workers and of importance
to the welfare of women and children; to collaborate and cooperate with asso­
ciations of employers and associations of employees in order that all of these
matters may be given the most adequate consideration; and to promote na­
tional prosperity and international good will by correlating as far as possible
the activities of the members of this association.
S ection

III
Section 1. Membership.—The active membership of this association shall
consist of—
(a) Members of the United States Department of Labor, United States
Bureau of Mines, and the Department of Labor of the Dominion of Canada;
such representatives of the bureaus or departments of the United States or
Canada being restricted by law from paying dues into this association may be
members with all privileges of voice and vote, but are not eligible for election
to office. They may serve on committees.
(&) Members of State and Provincial departments of labor.
(c) Members of Federal, State, or Provincial employment services.
Sec . 2. Honorary members.—Any person who has rendered service while con­
nected with any Federal, State, and Provincial department of labor, and the
American representative of the International Labor Office, may be elected to
honorary membership by a unanimous vote of the executive board.
A rticle

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CONSTITUTION

A r t i c l e IV
1. Officers.—The officers o f this association shall be a president, a
first, second, third, fourth, and fifth vice president, and a secretary-treasurer.
These officers shall constitute the executive board.
Sec. 2. Election of officers.— Such officers shall be elected from the members
at the regular annual business meeting of the association by a majority ballot
and shall hold office for one year, or until their successors are elected and
qualified.
S e c . 3. The officers shall be elected from representatives of the active mem­
bership of the association, except as otherwise stated in Article III.
S e c t io n

A

r t ic l e

V

1. Duties of the officers.—The president shall preside at all meetings
of the association and the executive board, preserve order during its delibera­
tions, appoint all committees, and sign all records, vouchers, or other documents
in connection with the work of the association.
S e c . 2. The vice presidents, in order named, shall perform the duties of the
president in his absence.
Sec. 3. The secretary-treasurer shall have charge of all books, papers, records,
and other documents of the association; shall receive and have charge of all
dues and other moneys; shall keep a full and complete record of all receipts and
disbursements; shall keep the minutes of all meetings of the association and
the executive board; shall conduct all correspondence pertaining to the office;
shall compile statistics and other data as may be required for the use of the
members of the association; and shall perform such other duties as may be
directed by the convention or the executive board. The secretary-treasurer
shall present a detailed written report of receipts and expenditures to the
convention; shall pay out no money until a voucher has been issued and signed
by the president. The secretary-treasurer shall publish the proceedings of the
convention within four months after the close of the convention, the issue to
consist of such numbers of copies as the executive board may direct. The sec­
retary-treasurer shall receive such salary as the executive board may decide,
but not less than $300 per year.
Sec. 4. In the event of a vacancy in any office, the executive board may elect
a successor: Provided, The president shall be succeeded by the ranking vice
president.
Sec. 5. The business of the association between conventions shall be conducted
by the executive board, and all questions coming before the board shall be
decided by a majority vote, except that of the election of honorary members,
which shall be by uanimous vote.
A r t i c l e VI
S e c t i o n 1. Finances.—The revenues of the association shall be derived from
annual dues determined on the following basis: (a) Federal, State, or Provin­
cial departments of labor, when the department staff consists of 1 to 5 persons,
$10; 6 to 25 persons, $15; 26 to 75 persons, $25; more than 75 persons, $50.
The executive board may order an assessment levied upon affiliated depart­
ments not to exceed one year’s dues.
S e c t io n

A r t i c l e VII
1. Who entitled to vote.— A l l active members shall be entitled to vote
on all questions coming before the meeting of the association as hereinafter
provided.
S ec . 2. In electing officers of the association, State departments of labor rep­
resented by several delegates shall only be entitled to one vote. The delegates
from such departments must select one person from their representatives to cast
the vote of the group.
The various bureaus of the United States Department of Labor and the
Department of Labor of Canada may each be entitled to one vote.
The rule for electing officers shall apply to the vote for selecting convention
city.
A r t i c l e VIII
S e c t i o n 1. Meetings.—The association shall meet at least once annually at
such time and place as the association in convention may select. The date of
the annual meeting shall be decided by the executive board unless otherwise
ordered by the convention.
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Article IX
Section 1. Program.—The executive board shall act as committee on program
and shall prepare and publish the convention programs of the association.
Sec. 2. The committee on program shall set aside at least one session of the
convention as a business session, at which session the regular order of business,
election of officers, and selection of convention city shall be taken up, and no
other business shall be considered at that session until the “ regular order ” has
been completed.
Article X
Section 1. Rules of order.—The deliberations of the convention shall be
governed by “ Cushing’s Manual.”
Article X I
Section 1. Amendments.—Amendments to the constitution must be filed with
the secretary-treasurer in triplicate and referred to the committee on constitu­
tion and by-laws. A two-thirds vote of all delegates shall be required to adopt
any amendment.
Article XII
Section 1. Order of business.—
1. Roll call of members by States and Provinces.
2. Appointment of committees.
(a) Committee of five on officers’ reports.
(&) Committee of five on resolutions.
(c) Committee of three on constitution and by-laws.
id) Special committees.
8. Reports of officers.
4. Reports of States and Provinces.
5. Reports of committees.
6. Unfinished business.
7. New business.
8. Selection of place of meeting.
9. Election of officers.
10. Adjournment.
DEVELOPMENT OF THE ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTAL
OFFICIALS IN INDUSTRY1
ASSOCIATION OP CHIEFS AND OFFICIALS OP BUREAUS OF LABOR
No.

Date
September, 1883..
June, 1884...........
June, 1885...........
June, 1886...........
June, 1887...........
May, 1888...........
June, 1889...........
1890................... .
May, 1891...........
May, 1892...........
May, 1894...........
September, 1895..
June, 1896...........
May, 1897...........
June, 1898...........
July, 1899...........
July, 1900...........
May, 1901...........
April, 1902..........
April, 1903..........
July, 1904.. ........
September, 1905..
July. 1906...........
July, 1907............
August, 1908.......
June, 1909...........

Convention held at—
Columbus, Ohio...
St. Louis, Mo........
Boston, Mass.........
Trenton, N. J........
Madison, Wis........
Indianapolis, Ind..
Hartford, Conn___
Des Moines, Iowa..
Philadelphia, Pa...
Denver, Colo.........
Albany, N. Y ........
Washington, D. C_
Minneapolis, Minn.
Albany, N. Y ........
Nashville, Tenn__
Detroit, Mich........
Augusta, Me..........
Milwaukee, W is...
St. Louis, Mo........
New Orleans, La...
Washington, D. C_.
Concord, N. H......
San Francisco, Calif___
Boston, Mass___
Norfolk, Va........
Detroit, Mich__
Rochester, N. Y_

President
H. A. Newman,
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Carroll D. Wright.,
do....................
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No meeting...........
Carroll D. Wright..
Charles F. Peck__

Henry Luskey.
Do.
John S. Lord.
E. R. Hutchins.
Do.
Do.

Carroll D. Wright..

L. G. Powers.
Do.
Samuel B. Horne.
Do.
Do.
Do.
James M. Clark.
Do.
Do.
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W. L. A. Johnson.
Do.
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Charles P. Neill..
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i Known as Association of Governmental Labor Officials, 1914-1927.




Secretary-treasurer

Do.
Frank H. Betton.
Do.

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DEVELOPM ENT OF TH E ASSOCIATION
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FACTORY INSPECTORS

No.

Date
June, 1887........... .......
August, 1888............. .
August, 1889________
August, 1890...............
August, 1891............. .
September, 1892........ .
September, 1893........ .
September, 1894........ .
September, 1895........ .
September, 1896........ .
August and Septem­
ber, 1897.
September, 1898_____
August, 1899_______
October, 1900..............
September, 1901........ .
December, 1902_____
August, 1903............. .
September, 1894........ .
August, 1905............. .
June, 1906...................
June, 1907...................
June, 1908.................
June, 1909...................

Convention held at—

Secretary-treasurer

President

Philadelphia, Pa........
Boston, Mass.............
Trenton, N. J...........
New York, N. Y ____
Cleveland, Ohio____
Hartford, Conn.........
Chicago, 111..... ....... .,
Philadelphia, Pa.......
Providence, R. I.......
Toronto, Canada___
Detroit, Mich...........

Rufus R. Wade..
___ do.................
___ do.................

Henry Dorn.
Do.
Do.

John Franey.
___ do...........

Mary A. O’Reilly.
Evan H. Davis.

Rufus R. Wade.

Alzina P. Stevens.

Boston, Mass...........
Quebec, Canada.......
Indianapolis, Ind___
Niagara Falls, N. Y_.
Charleston, S. C.......
Montreal, Canada...
St. Louis, Mo...........
Detroit, Mich______
Columbus, Ohio.......
Hartford, Conn........
Toronto, Canada___
Rochester, N. Y ____

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Joseph L. Cox.

Davis F. Spees.
James Mitchell.........
Do.
Daniel H. McAbee__
Edgar T. Davies............ C. V. HartseU.
Malcolm J. McLead___ Thos. Keity.
Do.
John H. Morgan.......
Do.
George L. McLean...
Do.
James T. Burke........

JOINT MEETING OF THE ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS AND OFFICIALS OF BUREAUS
OF LABOR AND INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FACTORY INSPECTORS
August, 1910............... Hendersonville, N. C.,
and Columbia, S. C.
September, 1911_____ Lincoln, Nebr________
September, 1912_____ Washington, D. C_____
May, 1913................... Chicago, 111_____ . . . . . .

J. Ellery Hudson______ E. J. Watson.
Louis Guyon_____ ____ W. W. Williams.
Edgar T. Davies______
Do.
A. L. Garrett___ . . . . . . . W. L. Mitchell.

ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTAL OFFICIALS IN INDUSTRY1
Resulting from the Amalgamation of the Association of Chiefs and Officials of Bureaus of
Labor and the International Association of Factory Inspectors
No.

Date
June, 1914.........
June-July, 1915.
July, 1916..........
September, 1917.
June, 1918........ .
June, 1919_____
July, 1920..........
May, 1921.........
May. 1922........ .
May, 1923........ .
May, 1924........ .
August, 1925__
June, 1926........ .
May-June, 1927.
May, 1928........ .
June, 1929_____

Convention held at—

President

Nashville, Tenn_____
Barney Cohen..............
Detroit, Mich...........
-----do------------------- Buffalo, N. Y............. . James V. Cunningham..
Asheville, N. C.......... . Oscar Nelson............... .
Des Moines, Iowa____ Edwin Mulready_____
Madison, Wis........... .. C. H. Younger............. .
Seattle, Wash........ ..... Geo. P. Hambrecht___
New Orleans, La_____ Frank E. Hoffman........
Harrisburg, Pa______
Frank E. Wood........... .
Richmond, Va........... . C. B. Connelley............
John Hopkins Hall, jr..
Chicago, 111................
Salt Lake City, Utah.. George B. Arnold........ .
H. R. Witter.................
Columbus, Ohio.........
Paterson, N. J............
John S. B. Davie_____
H. M. Stanley............. .
New Orleans, La____
F. McBride *...
Toronto, Canada____ /Andrew
\Maud Swett................

Secretary-treasurer
W. L. Mitchell.
John T. Fitzpatrick.
Do.
Do.
Linna E. Bresette.
Do.
Do.
Do.
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Louise E. Schutz.
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1 Known as Association of Governmental Labor Officials, 1914-1927,
•Doctor McBride resigned in March, 1929.




BULLETIN OF THE

U. S. BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS
no. 508

WASHINGTON

Ja n u a r y , 1930

PROCEEDINGS OF THE SIXTEENTH ANNUAL CONVENTION OF THE ASSOCI­
ATION OF GOVERNMENTAL OFFICIALS IN INDUSTRY OF THE UNITED
STATES AND CANADA, TORONTO, CANADA, JUNE 4-7,1929
TUESDAY, JUNE 4—EVENING SESSION
James H. H. Ballantyne, Deputy Minister of Labor, Ontario, Presiding

The sixteenth annual convention of the Association of Govern­
mental Officials in Industry of the United States and Canada,
formerly known as the Association of Governmental Labor Officials,
convened on the evening of Tuesday, June 4, 1929, at the King
Edward Hotel, Toronto, Canada, where an informal dinner was given
the visiting delegates. Addresses of welcome were delivered by the
Hon. Dr. Forbes Godfrey, Minister of the Ontario Department of
Labor, and by R. C. Harris, commissioner of works for the city of
Toronto, who represented the mayor of Toronto. Response to the
addresses of welcome was given by Miss Maud Swett, president of the
association.
An address was then given on the subject of “ Stabilization of
Employment in Industry,” by Tom Moore, president of the Trades
and Labor Congress of Canada; and another by J. S. McLean, presi­
dent of the Canada Packers, which follows:
Stabilization of Employment in Industry
By J. S. M cL ea n , president Canada Packers

In trying to get in order my thoughts for this evening, the thing
that struck me particularly was that every trail led back to the war.
I had never before realized the revolution which the war had brought
about in our relations with our employees.
Begin with rates of wages: In 1913 the minimum rate for laborers
was 15 cents per hour; in 1918 the rate was 30 cents per hour; and
to-day the minimum rate is 40 cents per hour. For another group,
which might be called the senior division of our men—the loading
gang—minimum rates were in 1913, 17 cents per hour; in 1918, 37
cents; and in 1929, 40 cents. For skilled men the rates were in 1913,
25 cents per hour; in 1918,43 cents; and in 1929, 45 cents.




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In comparing these rates, it must be remembered that a dollar
to-day has less value than in 1913. The commonly accepted ratio
is that $1.60 to-day is equivalent to $1 in 1913. Expressing to-day’s
wage rates in pre-war values (that is, $1.60 to the dollar), we find
that actually wages have advanced by the following percentages:
Ordinary labor, 66% per cent; senior grade of labor, 50 per cent;
and skilled labor, 20 per cent.
I had not realized before that there was such a disparity in the
rates of advance as between ordinary labor and skilled labor. But
when confronted with it, it seems to me that this is in line with the
new outlook which we all received from the experience of the war,
namely, that a human being was more than an implement of labor—
that he was a citizen of the State, and that in the last analysis the
safety of the State depended to a greater extent than we had pre­
viously realized on the humblest of its citizens. Without our realiz­
ing it (at any rate, without my realizing it), the minimum standard
of living has been very greatly advanced.
I have been speaking only of the advance in wage rates. Along
with these came other ameliorations of working conditions. I shall
speak only of those which have occurred in our own industry, and
in some cases I may be referring to changes which have taken place
in the particular business with which I am connected, but possibly
not in the industry generally. In 1917 the Ontario workmen’s com­
pensation act was brought into operation. This registered a great
step forward in the recognition of the responsibility of industry
generally for the individual on whom misfortune falls in the way
of an accident. One of the useful features of this act was the sug­
gestion that industries should organize themselves into groups for
the purpose of accident prevention. The outgrowth of this, in the
packing industry, was that all the chief plants established hospitals,
and nurses were employed to treat the most minor accidents imme­
diately they occurred, thus preventing the development of blood
poisoning, of which there is a serious risk in the packing industry.
The duties of the nurses were gradually extended from those of
first-aid treatment to the visiting of employees and of their families
in cases of illness. I think that in the case of our own firm, this
service of providing nurses has done more, perhaps, than any other
single factor to promote cordial relations between the firm and its
workmen. Along with the development of the first-aid and nursing
service, there grew up a parallel organization—the Employee’s
Mutual Benefit Association—which is conducted entirely by the
employees themselves. This is run by a board elected by the work­
men out of their own number. Each employee pays a fee of 15 cents
per week, and in the case of illness he receives free medical attention,
free medicine, and $6 per week during the time that he is off, up to
16 weeks.
So much for workmen’s compensation and medical service. In
1917 there was also an adjustment in the hours of labor. (Up until
then the regular hours in the industry had been 10 a day). I
am sorry to say that this reduction was brought into effect as the
result of a strike. The responsibility for this strike is a topic which
I shall not discuss. It suffices to say that the strike finished with an
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overtime. In 1919 a further advance was made, in that each em­
ployee was guaranteed a minimum of 40 hours weekly, and that
payment for overtime on holidays and on Sunday was increased
from time and a half to double time.
In 1925 began the practice of giving holidays to men who had
served a minimum number of years with the company. At the
beginning, employees with five years’ service were granted one week’s
holiday on full pav, and employees with ten years’ service were
granted two weeks’ holiday on full pay. The scale is gradually
being adjusted, and at the present time, we are working toward a
plan of granting holidays to all employees with three years’ service.
Up to the present time, I have not been speaking explicitly of
the stabilization of labor. To be quite frank, I did not realize that
each one of the above changes was a step toward the stabilization
of labor. It is true that we had, by other means, been working
toward stabilization. The chief of these were the following:
(1) Careful selection of new employees from the viewpoint of
health. This, of course, needs no explanation. The motive of the
company in this selection was entirely to promote its own interests.
However, every intelligent employee realizes that this is also in the
interest of the employee, for the double reason that an employee
who is ill can not bear his proper share of the work, and also that
every inefficient employee places a burden on the business which, to
some extent, affects the ability of the business to advance wages.
(2) The reduction of overtime. In my opinion the payment of
double time for overtime is even more in the interest of the business
than of the employee, for the reason that it discourages overtime.
I have come to the conviction that, in our business at any rate, over­
time is scarcely ever a necessity, and in the main is caused by
inefficient planning on the part of the management. The chief
penalty is that overtime necessarily reduces the physical strength of
the employees so that they are unable to put forth their full effort
either during the period of overtime or during the day following
it. I can not speak for other industries, but my opinion is that
in our own—the packing—industry a large amount of overtime is
a sure mark of inefficient management.
Now, how does the elimination of overtime lead to stabilization of
employment? In the following way: Where a management plans
its operations so as to get the work done by its regular staff within
regular hours, it tends to build up its gang to a capacity of something
more than its normal requirements. I do not mean that the gang
is large enough to do the work at the periods of peak activity, but it
tends in that direction rather than toward the cutting down to a
minimum. Periods of reduced activity are met by reducing the hours
of work of all employees so far as possible to the minimum basis of 40
hours per week. In this way the taking on and laying off of men is
reduced to a minimum. The gang is held as nearly as possible on a
basis sufficient for the maximum requirements. In our own case, we
have gradually felt our way toward this policy. Our motive through­
out has been twofold—to turn out the best possible product at the
lowest possible unit cost. Throughout all these changes we have
kept our attention focussed on these two things, and the result has
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Index of stability is a new phrase to me. I have come across it
only in the preparation of material for this address. It is the ratio
between two numbers. First, the average number of employees per
month taken over the whole year; second, the highest number of em­
ployees in any one month. In other words, if the average number
of employees per month over the whole year is 80, and if the highest
number of employees for the month of peak operations is 100, then
the index of stability is 80 to 100, or 80 per cent. No doubt all of
you are familiar with this method of measuring stability of labor.
In our own business, without our realizing it, and without our ever
having thought of measuring the stability of our labor in this fashion,
I find that between 1924 and 1929 the index of stability has advanced
from 81.8 to 92.2.
From this I draw a moral, and I do it with absolute confidence.
It is this, that in any industry where employers and employees co­
operate on terms of mutual understanding, whatever is good for the
employees is, in the end, good for the business, and vice versa, what­
ever is good for the business is, in the end, good for the employees.
At first sight that dictum may seem to involve the nervous employer
or the nervous employee to a dangerous commitment; but in a large
sense, I have the utmost confidence that this is a fundamental prin­
ciple which will stand the test of experience. It is equally true in
other fields of contact. It is true (again citing from our own busi­
ness) in regard to the relations between the producer of livestock and
the packer. The producer and the packer meet on the market, and
there superficially it would seem that their interests are diametrically
opposed. The producer is trying to get as much as possible for his
livestock. The packer is trying to buy it as cheap as possible. In
fact, looked at in a large way, their interests are identical. Their
debate in the transfer of the livestock covers a range of only % cent
per pound. The producer tries, and tries hard, to get y$ cent over
that which may be called the current market price. The packer tries
to buy the livestock at, say, y8 cent under the current market price.
The variation between them at most is about V± cent per pound. But
both are vitally interested in maintaining the price of livestock on a
basis not too high and not too low; a basis that will permit a profit—
a reasonable working profit—to the producer, sufficient to keep him
interested in producing livestock. If the price goes too high, the
consumer is not able to buy the products, and the outlet for them is
therefore restricted. If the price goes too low, the incentive disap­
pears for the producer. Therefore, the producer and the packer,
between them, have a constructive problem to try and maintain the
price of livestock on a basis which will show a reasonable profit to
the producer and will still provide meats a»t a cost which the con­
sumer can afford to pay. I have gone into this in some detail, because
I think it establishes the fundamental principle that the interests of
the producer and the packer, while apparently opposed, when
properly understood, are identical.
In the same way, I am convinced that the interests of the employer
and of the employee are also identical. It is in the interest of the
employer that the wages paid should be sufficient to enable the em­
ployee to maintain a decent standard of living. Without such a
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other hand, it would be contrary to the interest of the employee to
force a rate of wages which the business could not support, tor in
the end the business would sink under the burden, and the employees
would be without employment. I am convinced that the first auty
of a business is to maintain th. highest possible standard of living
for all of its employees, consistent with the preservation of the
soundness of the business.
My remarks have not had much to do with stabilization, except
incidentally. The point that has filled my mind, in reflecting on
stabilization, is that every improvement in the relation between em­
ployer and employee and every advance in the standard of living
of the employee automatically promote stabilization of employ­
ment within the business. This stabilization in turn automatically
promotes the welfare of the business, inasmuch as it makes possible
the maintenance of high standards in the products produced and of
an atmosphere of mutual confidence between employer and em­
ployees, which enlists the good will of the employees and thereby
tends to reduce the cost of production within the plant.




WEDNESDAY, JUNE 5—MORNING SESSION
Maud Swett, President, A. G. 0. I., Presiding

BUSINESS SESSION
Chairman S w e t t : It has been customary in the past for the
president to deliver an address, but after serving in that office for
such a short time I think it would be presumptuous on my part to
do so, or to attempt to make any recommendations or suggestions.
The secretary will read replies she has received from persons who
are not able to attend our convention this year.
[Miss Schutz, secretary, reported that in accordance with resolu­
tion No. 6, adopted at the meeting of the association in 1928, letters
were sent out by Doctor McBride, then president of the association,
and by her as secretary, to the governor and the presiding officers oi
the senate and house of every State in the Union, directing attention
to the forthcoming convention, asking that there be representation
from the State at the convention and that any restrictive legislation
which might prevent attendance be removed. Replies from a num­
ber of governors were read by the secretary, who regretted to report
that there had been no appreciable increase in attendance as a result
of the letters, nor had any restrictive legislation been removed.
[The secretary read letters from State governors and others re­
gretting their inability to be present.]
Mr. S t e w a r t . I may say that the Secretary of Labor wrote to the
Governor of each State, calling attention to this meeting and to that
of the International Association of Industrial Accident Boards and
Commissions; also to the growing tendency to restrict the appropria­
tions so that government officials could not leave their respective
States. We received letters that were entirely friendly, from all
States except Michigan, which side-stepped it, and Montana, which
developed this very peculiar situation. Some years ago a law was
passed in Montana creating a labor commission. The attorney gen­
eral of the States made a ruling that while the law created a labor
bureau or a labor commission it did not provide for the appointment
of a commissioner, and that the governor had no power to appoint a
commissioner until the legislature made good that deficiency. So
Montana has a commission without a commissioner. The question
has come up at three legislatures since, but has been voted down.
About three months ago the legislature refused to amend the bill so
that a commissioner could be appointed.
A peculiar situation arises in Oklahoma, where the workmen’s
compensation law has in it a clause which compels attendance on the
International Association of Industrial Accident Boards and Com­
missions, but forbids the commissioner of labor from going outside
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the State. The Governor of Oklahoma said that he was in entire
sympathy with the matter and would see what could be done with the
new legislature.
These are the only peculiar situations that have arisen.
Report of the Secretary-Treasurer, May 21, 1928, to May 30, 1929
BALANCE AND RECEIPTS

Funds on hand May 21, 1928_______________________________________ $443.87
Interest on sayings account------------------------------------------------------------1.30
10.00
Receipts from dues to July 1, 1928: Louisiana----------------------------------Receipts from dues to July 1, 1929:
Illinois_______________________________________________ $15.00
Virginia----- ----------------------------------------------------------------- 15.00
Minnesota_____________________________________________ 25.00
Arkansas______________________ _______________________ 10.00
Wisconsin_____________________________________________ 50. 00
New Jersey------------------------------ ---------------------------------- 25.00
New Hampshire________________________________________ 10.00
Kansas__________________________ _____________________ 15.00
Pennsylvania___________________________________________ 50.00
Massachusetts--------------------------------------------------------------- 50.00
Utah_________________________________________________ 10. 00
New York______________________________________ _______ 50. 00
Ontario_______________________________________________ 10.00
Oklahoma--------------------------------------------------------------------- 10.00
Ohio_____________________ ______________________________ 25. 00
Louisiana______________________________________________ 10.00
Canada (Federal department)___________________________ 25.00
Connecticut______ _____________________________________ 10.00
Georgia------------------------------------------------------------------------ 10.00
--------- 425.00

d is b u r s e m e n t s

1928
May 15. Telegram to Doctor Dowling, New Orleans_________________
26. Salary, secretary-treasurer________________________________
29, Secretary-treasurer, convention expenses, tips, stamps, tele­
phone calls, etc________________________________________
31. F. Wood, convention expenses for speakers, etc_____________
June 2. R. Carroll, stenographic services___________________________
30. Stamps__________________________________________________
July 5. Letter Specialty Co., 200 4-page letters containing resolu­
tions, etc., mimeographed_______________________________
R. Carroll, stenographic services__________________________
14. Letter Specialty Co., 2,000 letterheads_____________________
30. Earl Christenberry, reporting proceedings at convention____
Aug. 1. R. Carroll, stenographic services for July_________________
8. Postage on registered package to Washington, containing
proceedings of convention_______________________________
Oct. 28. Stamps__________________________________________________
30. Rubber stamp with new name of organization______________
31. R. Carroll, stenographic services__________________________
1929
Jan. 25. Chase Printing Co., 1,000 large envelopes__________________
28. Stamps__________________________________________________
Feb. 26. Stamps__________________________________________________
Mar. 16. B. Holst rom, stenographic services________________________
Apr. 12. Secretary-treasurer, expense of trip to La Crosse to meet
Miss Swett, president A. G. O. I________________________
19. Stamps---------------------------------------------------------------------------74930°—30----- 2




$0. 72
180.00
4. 50
10.00
11.00
5.00
10.77
4. 00
14.55
85.70
3.50
1.13
3.00
1. 60
3.50
7.28
4.00
4.00
5. 00
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1929
May 2. Telegram, Maud Swett, president---------------------------------------Stamps---------------------------------------------------------------------------15. Estelle Barnett, 175 mimeographed letters_________________
Chase Printing Co., 500 final programs_____________________
24. Western Badge & Novelty Co., 100 badges for convention___
Chase Printing Co., 100 additional programs at request of
Mr. Ballantyne_________________________________________
25. O. Gilbertson, stenographic services_______________________
27. Stamps----------------------------------------------------------------------------

SO. 42
4: 00
2. 05
25. 22
19.50
7.66
10. 00
3.00

Total disbursements----------------------------------------------------Balance on hand (checking account, $115.41; savings account, $315.60)-

449.16
431.01

Total________________________________________________

880.17

The report was referred to the committee on officers’ reports.
NEW LABOR LEGISLATION
Report of Arkansas (by Mr. Rooksbery).
We have had no new legislation passed; but we have had one of the most
bitter fights in the State of Arkansas over our compensation bill, which was
sponsored by the department of labor at the last session. We worked for
two years, and we thought the bill was going through without much trouble,
but we ran against several attorneys and one elevator insurance company,
also the administration force with its income-tax bill. Between these two
forces the compensation bill was defeated.
A lien law was passed, or amended rather, in our wage collections, but it
is a very minor amendment and affects only material dealers. That is the
only amendment we have had to any of our labor laws this last session.
Work is now going ahead for our workmen’s compensation bill to be pre­
sented at the next session of the leg’slature.
There is also the repeal of the prison or factory law in the State at the
present time. I think there will not be any trouble over that.
Report of Iowa (by Mr. Urick).
The last Iowa Legislature enacted but few laws relating to labor. The
insurance laws were amended to permit group insurance, which favors labor,
especially organized labor. Legislation providing that barbers must pass an
examination for a certificate and must have an eighth-grade education was
enacted.
Probably one of the most important pieces of new legislation is the law relat­
ing to private employment bureaus. Heretofore the right to license such
bureaus was delegated to cities and towns. The only two cities to take advan­
tage of this were Sioux City and Des Moines, and the greater part of their real
interest was to collect the license fees. That was changed so that the State
grants the license after the law becomes effective on July 4. The legislation
creates a commission, consisting of the secretary of the state, the industrial
commissioner, and the labor commissioner. The right of enforcement of the
law, or the following up of the law, will be altogether in the hands of the
labor commissioner, who issues the license. The commission must investigate
as to the morals and qualifications of the applicants; and all names of indi­
vidual applicants must be given. In the case of a corporation, it must give
the names of its officials, if a partnership the names of the partners, and in
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a list of the fees to be charged. This latter provision may seem peculiar to
those who have followed the decision of the United States Supreme Court
with regard to the regulation of these matters, but we have in Iowa this
situation—for several years our statute books contained a section providing
that the fees shall be limited to 5 per cent of the first month’s salary. That
includes all application and other fees. Certain organizations -were excepted
because of particular interests, and we found that those organizations, instead
of charging 5 per cent often charged as much as 20 and 25 per cent.
Owing to the case pending in the United States Supreme Court no case was
brought under the present law. The former attorney general was rather luke­
warm, so that nothing could be done during that period. The present attorney
general when asked for an opinion on certain provisions of the law gave what
appeared to be a peculiar opinion. A conference was requested and granted.
The attorney general and three of his assistants took part, and all agreed that
in their opinion the State supreme court, if called upon in a properly presented
case, would not agree with the Federal Supreme Court decision. He expressed
a willingness to take a case through the courts of the State of Iowa and to
the Supreme Court of the United States, in an effort to get a favorable opinion.
He thought the original case might have been poorly presented to the United
States Supreme Court. That leaves us in a rather peculiar position.
The only really harmful legislation enacted by the State was in relation to
contract convict labor. We have had considerable controversy during the past
several years. Four years ago the State adopted the State-use plan, to become
effective within two years, and permitting no further contracts. The next
legislature extended the time until the first day of July, 1929, for the full
application of the State-use plan and abolition of contracts. The last legislature
extended the time for present contracts indefinitely. This was advocated by
the Board of Control of State Institutions, and had the full and complete
support of the governor. This most harmful piece of legislation enacted
probably overbalanced all beneficial legislation enacted.
The workmen’s compensation law was amended increasing physician and
hospital fees from $100 to $200, also providing that petition for rehearing of
arbitration awards be held at the seat of government, but that petitions for
review of payments or settlements shall be held in county where injury occurred.
Report of Kentucky (by Mr. Seiller).
Suctfon-Moicer system.—An act requiring a suction-blower system on all
grinding and polishing wheels was adopted by the 1928 legislature. The en­
forcement of this act is placed specifically upon the department of labor. The
department reports compliance with the act.
Workmen's accident compensation.—A resolution appointing a commission of
six members was adopted by the 1928 legislature to make a complete study
of operation and effect of the State workmen’s accident compensation law,
and to make to the 1930 legislature a complete report thereon, and to submit
such amendments to the law as found needed. Public hearings have been held
by the commission and the questions so far heard are administration, review
by counts on points in law, evidence and facts, and on methods of insuring
and the desirability of creating a State fund. The department of labor has
urged the commission to study the need and desirability of amending the act
and of making the same an all-inclusive act to compensate for accidents and
illness arising out of and in the course of employment, and as the result of
the worker’s exposure in his employment; to provide for safety and hygiene
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make a statistical report in conformity with suggestions and schedules set out
in Bulletin No. 276, “ Standardization of Industrial Accidents,” published by
the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics.
We believe our requests will be favorably acted upon by the commission.
Report of Massachusetts (by General Sweetser).
In the legislature this year there has been the usual number of bills relating
to labor. Most of them failed to pass or were referred to the next general
court.
The law relating to the weekly payment of wages was amended to add to the
penalty—imprisonment in the house of correction—so as to read as follows:
Whoever violates this section shall be punished by a fine of not less than $10
nor more than $50 or by imprisonment in the house of correction for not more
than two months, or both.
It is believed that the enactment of this law, providing imprisonment for
failure to pay wages, will enable the courts to deal effectively with certain
types of contractors who violate the weekly payment law frequently, and pay
the wages due employees when the matter is brought to the attention of the
court.
There were two bills before the legislature of much interest to the depart­
ment—one of which has just become a law.
First, the creation of a new commission called the Massachusetts Industrial
Commission. This commission is placed in the department of labor and in­
dustries. The commission will consist of the commissioner of labor and indus­
tries, the commissioner of agriculture, and five unpaid members to be appointed
by the governor. The commission is authorized to conduct researches into the
industrial and agricultural situation within the Commonwealth, and shall seek
to coordinate the activities of unofficial bodies organized for the promotion of
the industrial, agricultural, and recreational interests in the Commonwealth, and
may prepare, print, and distribute books, maps, charts, and pamphlets, which
in its judgment will further the purpose for which it is created. One of the
commissioners must be a representative of labor and it is hoped that this
commission will render important service both to labor and industry in this
Commonwealth.
Second, in some of the industrial centers there has developed a practice
of doing business with employees on the basis of the individual contract. In
one of the shoe manufacturing cities of the State a number of concerns invited
their workmen to buy shares of stock in the business and to cooperate with them
on this basis. There was presented to the legislature a bill providing that any
written contract of employment shall be void unless at the time of making the
same, a copy is given to the employee, or prospective employe, signed by the
employer, or prospective employer, or an authorized representative. The second
part of the bill provided that any contract of employment shall be void whereby
it is included as a consideration for the acceptance of such contract by the
employer, the purchase by the employee of capital stock of any nature in the
business of the employer.
This bill was submitted to the justices of the supreme judicial court for their
opinion on the constitutionality of the same.
The court decided that the first question concerning the delivery of the
contract was constitutional. The second question, relative to the purchase of
stock, was answered in the negative and declared to be unconstitutional on
the grounds that it would be an interference with personal liberty and would
not be justified by any constitutional authority reposed in the legislative depart­
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However, the fact that it has been declared constitutional to require a copy
of the signed contract to be delivered to the employee—otherwise the contract
will be void—will be of benefit to the department in its investigations, while
it will give to the employee, who enters into a contract of this kind, an oppor­
tunity to secure legal counsel as to his rights under this form of agreement.
The proposal to enact legislation covering this matter was referred to the
next annual session of the legislature.
In the inaugural message of the governor to the legislature of 1929, one of
the outstanding recommendations includes raising the school age from 14 to
15 years.
A measure introduced to provide for part-time attendance in public schools
of employed minors between the ages of 14 and 16 years, was brought to the
attention of the legislature and several public hearings held at which the
provisions of each were discussed at much length. After reporting a plan to
provide for a system that would increase the number of continuation schools
and extend the time now required for attendance therein, the legislature adopted
a “ resolve ” providing for a study by a special commission on the general
question of increasing the educational requirements of the Commonwealth and
certain related matters.
Report of Massachusetts (by Miss Johnson).
Since the rules and regulations adopted by States having authority to enact
such rules have the force of law, it may be of interest to mention a new rule
adopted by the five commissioners of the Massachusetts Department of Labor
and Industries, that is the rule regarding the common drinking cup and towel
in industrial establishments. It provides that such industrial establishments
shall not provide a common drinking cup or a common towel for use in the
establishment. This was adopted under the statute which requires that all
industrial establishments shall be well lighted, well ventilated, and kept free
from insanitary conditions, according to reasonable rules and regulations
adopted by the board of commissioners of the department It was held by
the board that a common drinking cup and a common towel constituted
insanitary conditions. The action was based upon recommendations or requests
from various private organizations, including the joint board of sanitary control
for the garment trades, the consumers’ league, and the antituberculosis
association.
Four rules have been adopted by the present department of labor and
industries. These are a lighting code, a code for woodworking establishments,
a code for power punch presses, and the rules regarding common drinking
cups and towels. This is in addition to the revision of the rules for the
painting trades which was adopted by the former State board of labor and
industries. That makes in all 11 codes adopted—4 by the present department
and 7 by the former State board of labor.
There was also a measure which, although not distinctly a labor measure*
has an indirect bearing on the subject. It was enacted by the Massachusetts
Legislature this year, and provides for the establishment of a children’s code
committee. It is based on one of the recommendations of the governor, and
establishes a commission of five persons, three representing State officials—the
commissioner of mental diseases, the commissioner of public welfare, and the
commissioner of probations—and two persons appointed by the governor. This
commission is required to study and recommend a revision of the laws relating
to dependent, neglected, and delinquent children and other children in need of
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It is rather difficult to draw the line of demarcation between the premature
employment of children and some of the problems connected with juvenile
delinquency, dependency, and neglect. The commission is not specifically
required to consider child labor, but it is very likely that it will be considered
in connection with these matters.
Report of Minnesota (by Mr. McColl).
New legislation in Minnesota, which may be of interest, is the following
amendment to the child labor law, and also certain amendments to the
compensation law.
According to an amendment to the child labor law, a child under 16 years
of age may not legally appear in a theatrical exhibition without a written
permit from the industrial commission, which must first investigate the health
and school record of such child. Originally, such permit was issued by the
mayor of the city in which the performance took place. Under the law of
1927, provision was made for the appearance of children under 10 years of
age by authorizing the industrial commission to issue special permits for their
performances. According to the amendment of 1929, children under 10 years
of age are practically prohibited from appearing in theatrical performances.
An important amendment to the compensation law, in its application to
minors who have sustained injuries resulting in permanent total or permanent
partial disability, bases the compensation to which they are entitled on the
weekly earnings which such minors would probably earn after arriving at
the legal age if uninjured. The 90-day limit has now been stricken out of that
part of the compensation law which relates to medical, surgical, and hospital
treatment, so that the employer is now liable for such treatment for an
unlimited time.
It may also be of interest to know that the industrial commission may now
refuse to issue licenses to privately operated employment agencies whenever,
after due investigation, the commission finds that the character of such appli­
cant makes him unfit to be an employment agent, or when the premises for
conducting business are unfit for such use, or whenever the industrial com­
mission is convinced that the number of licensed employment agents is sufficient
to supply the needs of employers and employees.
Report of New Hampshire (by Mr. Davie).
Very little labor legislation was passed by the last Legislature of New
Hampshire.
The following bills were introduced: H. R. No. 130, relating to employment
offices; H. R. No. 230, relating to night work for women and minors; H. R.
No. 235, relating to hours of labor; and H. R. No. 292, relating to workmen’s
compensation; all of which were killed in the house.
H. R. No. 316 corrected an error in the codified laws of 1926 and was passed.
This being the only piece of legislation that would affect the interests of labor
passed by that legislature.
Report of New Jersey (by Colonel Blunt)
Bureau for women and children.—Chapter 158 creates in the department of
labor a bureau to be known as the “ Bureau for women and children,” the
director of which shall be a woman.
This bureau is authorized and empowered to make studies and investigations
of special problems connected with the labor of women and children and to per­
form, under the supervision and control of the commissioner of labor, the
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with relation to the enforcement of the laws, rules, and regulations governing
the employment of women and children.
Building inspection.—Chapter 207 is a supplement to chapter 92 of the Laws
of 1927, and provides that any theater, opera house, grand stand, or building
used for the motion-picture purposes or public entertainment, now in use in
the municipalities of this State, in which there is no local building supervision,
that is not in conformity with the regulations set forth by the commissioner of
labor and which is deemed unsafe for such purposes, may be ordered discon­
tinued by the commissioner of labor after a hearing until such time as it is
made to comply with the regulations of the department of labor for such
buildings.
This chapter further provides that the commissioner of labor shall keep
or cause to be kept a complete registry of all such places of public entertain­
ment coming under the provisions of this act and that notice of such registra­
tion shall be furnished by the commissioner of labor and kept posted in a con­
spicuous position in the building or any part of the building used for the above
purposes when it complies with the regulations of the department of labor for
such buildings.
Compressed-air law.—Chapter 90 amends chapter 121 of the Laws of 1914,
“An act relating to the employment of persons in compressed air,” by making
sections 10 and 11 of the original act regulating the shifts and intervals of
work and the rate and time of decompression, respectively, agree identically
with the provisions of the New York State law.
Payment of wages by check.—Chapter 235 further amends chapter 38, Laws
of 1899, the cash payment of wages law, by clearing up any ambiguity that may
have resulted by the amendment of 1928 to that act.
The act as now amended gives the commissioner of labor discretionary power
to grant an exception to the act requiring the payment of wages in cash at
least every two weeks by providing that “ any person, firm, partnership, asso­
ciation or corporation that can reasonably satisfy the commissioner of labor
that he, they, or it have a paid-up cash capital invested in this State of not less
than $200,000, and that arrangements have been made with a banking institu­
tion for the payment in full of any negotiable check issued for the payment of
wages may, with the written consent of the commissioner of labor, pay any
such wages by negotiable check instead of in lawful money.”
Workmen's compensation.—Chapter 66 provides that no petition hereafter
filed under the workmen’s compensation act shall be dismissed for want of
prosecution or for failure formally to adjourn the cause, until after notice shall
be served by the respondent on the petitioner or his attorney that unless the
cause is moved for hearing within one month from the date of the service
thereof, the claim will be considered abandoned and the petition dismissed.
Report of New York (by Doctor Patton).
During the legislative session of 1929, two laws were passed amending the
labor law and 11 amending the compensation law.
The general amendment of the prison law made important changes in the
control of prison industries. The changes in the lien law affected contractors
and material men directly but were of indirect importance to labor.
Three amendments to the labor law and one amendment to the compensation
law were vetoed by the governor. They are discussed below.
Appropriations for the department of lal>or.—The governor’s recommenda­
tions for the support of the department of labor were contained in the execu­
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of $2,729,000 “ to permit the commissioner of labor to reorganize the depart­
ment of labor.” This is in contrast with the usual line-item appropriation
by which each item of personal service is fixed, with the exact title and
maximum salary specified in the law, and with no possibility of change or
readjustment until the following year. The original executive budget also
included an item of $50,000 which might be expended for the formation of a
division for junior placement.
The legislature amended the bill to provide that reorganization was to be
made “ as provided in section 139 of article 8 of the State finance law.”
They reduced the sum to $2,700,000 and omitted reference to the division for
junior placement. The State finance law provides that the chairmen of the
finance committee of the senate and the ways and means committee of the
assembly have joint power with the governor in approving items in the reorgani­
zation of a department.
In its amended form the governor signed the bill, which became chapter
84, but vetoed the items referring to the State labor department, except one
item for $350,000 for compensation payments to the department to cover the
compensation premium for all State employees injured in the course of their
employment. The governor held to the view that the constitutional amend­
ment providing for an executive budget superseded the statute law and gave
the governor sole responsibility without legislative supervision.
The governor submitted another budget for the labor and other departments
wh:ch, as amended, became chapter 593. The amount appropriated again stood
at $2,700,000 and the requirement that the itemized budget must be approved
by the two legislative chairmen together with the governor was again in force.
The question of law between the governor and the legislature is now before
the courts for a decision.
In addition to the $2,700,000 appropriated by chapter 593, chapter 399 appro­
priates an additional $47,200 for mandatory increases for factory inspectors.
This makes a total of $2,747,200 exclusive of the compensation premium for
State employees and deficiency appropriations for earlier years. The premium
for all employees of the State, in chapter 84, is $350,000. Assuming that onetenth of it covers employees of the department of labor, this raises the total
appropriation for the department to $2,782,200. The amount appropriated for
the department in 1928-29 was $2,639,000. The department pays back to the
State treasury over $1,000,000 yearly from the assessments levied against insur­
ance carriers, in proportion to the amount of their compensation business, to
cover the expenses of administering the compensation law. In 1927-28 the
sum repaid to the State was $1,124,694.04, or over 40 per cent of the total appro­
priation for that year.
Workmen's compensation.—Chapter 64, effective March 6, adds to the list of
occupational diseases for which compensation is payable, injuries from radium,
radium emanations, or X rays, but only in hospitals or laboratories. It will
be superseded, however, by chapter 702, noted below, effective October 1, 1929.
The later chapter omits reference to radium poisoning.
Chapter 298 makes several additions to the list of occupational diseases
covered by the compensation law. The list, as amended, includes poisoning by
any sulphide, chrome poisoning, methyl chloride poisoning, poisoning from
carbon monoxide, sulphuric, hydrochloric, or hydrofluoric acid, and respiratory,
gastro-intestinal, or physiological nerve and eye disorders due to contact with
petroleum products and their fumes. A former provision for compensation for
poisoning by hydro-derivatives of benzene is changed by the addition of hydroxyderivatives. The section providing compensation for dope poisoning or “ any




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substance used as or in conjunction with a solvent for acetate of cellulose”
is amended by the addition of “ or nitro-cellulose.”
The bill as originally introduced and drawn by the industrial survey com­
mission included a longer list of common and seriously disabling occupational
diseases. The bill was amended by the legislature.
Chapter 564 amends the workmen’s compensation law by eliminating the
word “ power” from “ power laundries” in the list of industries in which
compensation is payable and thereby bringing employees of hand laundries
directly under the protection of the law.
The compensation law provides schedule awards of a fixed number of weeks
for loss or loss of use of part or all of hands, fingers, legs, and other members,
and permanent total disability for loss of both hands, both arms, both feet,
or both legs, or both eyes, or any two thereof. Nothing in the law directly
covered the case of two permanent injuries to different members listed in the
schedule awards except those causing permanent total disability. The courts
held that no awards could be made for schedule losses, although two injuries
were presumably more serious than one, but that under the law the depart­
ment of labor must make awards under paragraph “ u ” of subdivision 3 of
section 15, which provided for compensation for “ other permanent partial
injuries ” on the basis of actual impaired earnings. It was sometimes difficult
or impossible to determine impaired earnings fairly. Chapter 301 amends the
law so as to require the department to make awards for total or partial loss
or loss of use of more than one member by awarding compensation for each
loss separately, and consecutively.
Chapter 303 amends subdivisions 2, 3, and 4 of section 16 of the workmen’s
compensation law to provide that children over 18, who are blind, crippled,
or dependent through any physical or mental infirmity, are to receive the
same share of the compensation awarded to the dependents of a worker killed
in industry, as children under 18, and that the award is to continue during
the period of dependency.
Chapter 299 provides that when funeral expenses of a worker, whose death
occurred in the course of his employment, have been paid by claimants en­
titled to compensation or by others, the funeral expenses shall be awarded to
such claimants or others, and otherwise to the undertaker. Funeral ex­
penses are awarded in all cases where there are no persons entitled to other
compensation. Some of the insurance companies had claimed that they did
not have to pay funeral expenses under the law when the worker who died
left no dependents.
Chapter 304 amends the workmen’s compensation law to exclude from its
coverage “ persons engaged in voluntary service not under contract of hire.”
This is an amendment, effective July 1, to group 18 of subdivision 1, section
3 of the compensation law, “ all other employments ” group. It has been super­
seded by chapter 702, summarized in the following paragraph, effective October
1, 1929.
Before 1928 the workmen’s compensation law did not apply to workers for
an organization or employment not carried on for pecuniary gain. The laws
of 1928 amended the law to strike out the provision about pecuniary gain and
to provide compensation for all employees in organizations where four or
more of the workers were “ workmen or operatives.” This brought all em­
ployees of religious, charitable, and educational institutions, including clerks
and teachers, under the law, if four workmen were employed, except for munic­
ipalities or other subdivisions of the State. Chapter 702 of the Laws of 1929
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clerical, teaching or nonmanual capacity in or for a religious, charitable, or
educational institution ” and further adds 41a minister, priest or rabbi, or a
member of a religious order, shall not be deemed to be employed or engaged in
employment under the terms of this section.,,
The provision of the workmen’s compensation law requiring that marriage
certificates or other evidence of dependency in foreign countries must be
authenticated “ by the Secretary of State or other official having charge of
foreign affairs” is amended by chapter 300 by the addition of the phrase “ or
a United States consul.”
Section 56 of the workmen’s compensation law provides that contractors who
subcontract all or part of any contract that includes hazardous employment, or
their insurance carriers, are liable for compensation due to employees of their
subcontractors unless the subcontractor who is primarily liable has secured
compensation. Chapter 302 amends this section to permit such a contractor,
or his insurance carrier who has become liable for the payment of such com­
pensation, to recover the amount from the subcontractor, and makes the
amount a lien against any money due the subcontractor.
Chapter 305 amends section 54 by providing that no insurance policy is­
sued by a company outside of New York State shall be regarded as covering
the liability of an employer to his employees under the workmen’s compensation
law unless such “ foreign” company shall have filed with the superintendent
of insurance a bond or undertaking representing 25 per cent of the outstanding
reserves for compensation losses upon policies for risks located in New York
State. If the superintendent of insurance certifies that the insurance company
has become insolvent or defaults payment for 30 days, the attorney general may
proceed to enforce the bond. In lieu of the bond, the foreign company may
deposit securities prescribed by the insurance law to the amount of one-quarter
of the outstanding reserves for compensation losses on policies of the company
for risks in New York State.
Labor law.—Chapter 296 amends subdivision 6 of section 270 to permit the
use in a fireproof building equipped with automatic sprinklers of partitions of
wood or glass in spaces used solely for offices or showrooms.
Chapter 399 amends section 18-a to provide that factory, mercantile, boiler,
mine and tunnel inspectors of the labor department shall be divided into 8
instead of 6 grades, and providing that the annual salary of grades 7 and 8
shall be $2,700 and $3,000, as against a maximum for grade 6 of $2,400. In­
spectors who serve one year in each grade are automatically moved to the grade
above. Safety inspectors of the bureau of industrial hygiene are to receive an
anuual salary of $2,500, with increases to $2,750 and $3,000 after one and two
years’ experience. Salaries of supervising inspectors are increased from $3,500
to $4,000.
Vocational guidance for school children.—Chapter 407 amends the education
law extending the work of the schools of the State in providing vocational
guidance for school children.
The school authorities of each school district are empowered to employ one
or more people for vocational guidance. The qualifications of these workers
are to be approved by the commissioner of education. They are empowered
also to establish a guidance bureau to provide information for pupils regarding
educational and occupational opportunities. Employment and follow-up serv­
ice is provided for “ minors ” and the bureaus are authorized to make research
studies of vocational and educational opportunities.
The State education department is authorized to employ a supervisor of vo­
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Industrial education.—Chapter 264 amends the sections of the education law
which provide for vocational education and extension boards in counties by
requiring that they shall not incur liabilities against county funds in excess
of the amounts appropriated by the boards of supervisors. It also provides
that the commissioner of education shall apportion State funds not only in
proportion to vocational teachers but all other qualified persons serving in a
professional capacity recognized by the commissioner of education.
Chapter 267 establishes the classification of industrial teachers in the train­
ing departments of State training schools for teachers.
Study of old-age dependency.—Chapter 664 creates a temporary State com­
mission to study “ the industrial condition of aged men and women,” and the
most practicable method of providing security against old-age want.
Employment of prisoners.—Two new laws passed at this session of the legis­
lature make a fundamental reform in the method of employing prisoners
sentenced to State’s prison.
Chapter 242 adds two new sections, 148 and 149, which provide for a psy­
chiatric and diagonostic clinic at Sing Sing prison to make a full scientific
study of all prisoners sentenced to State’s jprison, and make recommendations
for their care, training, and employment. The industries of the several prisons
are to be organized so that inmates can be sent to the institutions best suited to
their mental capacity.
Chapter 243 is a general revision of the prison law to bring it into conformity
with the State departments law. The word “ prisoners” is substituted
throughout for “ convicts” and the phrase “ department of corrections” for
‘ superintendent of State prisons.”
Former section 170-a providing for a superintendent of prison industries and
sections 200, 201, and 202 prescribing the duties of the prison industries board
are repealed in full. Chapter 243 repeals sections 200, 201, and 202 without
quoting them. They provided for a board to consist of the superintendent of
State prisons, the superintendent of prison industries, and the superintendent
of purchase. They were to meet at least once a month to determine the general
policy affecting prison industries, to “ study the problem of rehabilitating
prisoners, particularly with the purpose of preparing them for useful indus­
trial service.” They were to report on the industrial record of each inmate
applying for parole, to fix the pay of inmates, fix the pay of civilian employees,
and fix the price at which prison goods were to be sold.
The new law abolishes the board and makes one man, the first assistant
commissioner of corrections head of a new division of industries.
All the sections in the old law after section 179 are renumbered.
Public employees.—A concurrent resolution was passed by both houses of the
legislature proposing an amendment to the constitution that any honorably
discharged soldiers, sailors, marines, or nurses, disabled in the actual perform­
ance of war duty “ to an extent recognized by the United States Veteran’s Bu­
reau ” shall have preference in appointment ox promotion from any civil-service
list for which they have qualified regardless of their standing on such list.
Pensions and annuities.—Chapter 512 amends the sections of the civil service
law providing that employees holding a position in the competitive class, whose
positions have been abolished, are to be placed on a preferred list from which
appointments are to be made for two years. The law held that preference
should apply to any person “ holding a position in the competitive class or a
position subject to a qualifying examination.” The new amendment eliminates
the phrase “ or a position subject to a qualifying examination,” which had
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who had taken a qualifying but not a competitive examination, such as laborers
in cities, chauffeurs, etc.
Retirement system for State employees.—Chapter 421 amends the civil
service law in relation to pensions for public employees in several particulars.
In the description of prior service under retirement plans of city or other
public bodies which were taken over by the State system, the word ‘‘ teaching
service ” is amended to read “ service,” as originally intended.
Subdivision 9, which provides that a member who withdraws any part of
his funds ceases to be a member, is changed to except those who temporarily
borrow part of their contributions under the amendment of last year.
For employees transferred to the Federal service when their offices were
transferred to the Federal Government, and retaining their membership in the
State system, the clause was eliminated providing that they must pay ac­
cumulated contributions to the State system within 60 days. The provisions
were brought up to date and made general by eliminating a condition tech­
nically applicable only to one department in 1921.
Employees eligible to membership who did not join the system at first date
of eligibility may join before January 1, 1930, and obtain credit for prior
service if rendered within five years of first date of eligibility by paying to
the funds. Employees who have become or become members prior to January
1, 1930, and prior to age 50, may receive credit for hitherto rendered service
for superannuation credit only provided that contributions are made to any
sound actuarial system to which the State or a municipality is a contributor,
equal to the amount payable if they had become a member at first date of
eligibility. A member may pay in installments arrears formerly payable in
lump sum.
The provision in the law that medical examinations under the act shall be
made where practicable by a physician in the service of the State of New
York is eliminated.
The provision that members may retire “ within 90 days after leaving State
service” is amended to remove the time limit, and to add a requirement that
they shall have attained the age of 60 “ or over while in the State service.”
The provision that a retirement allowance shall be suspended while the
beneficiary is in receipt of compensation for public service is amended to
exempt payments for jury duty, and strengthened to forbid payment to a
person receiving a pension or “ any emolument or award or judgment paid
from direct or indirect taxes.”

Mr. S te w a rt. May I ask Doctor Patton just what the radium law
was that was passed by the State of New York?
Doctor P atton. Chapter 64 of the Laws of 1929 merely made
an addition to the list of occupational diseases. We now have a
list of all such diseases. They have a new provision, No. 20, pro­
viding for compensation for injuries following radium emanations
or X rays, provided such injuries occur in hospitals or laboratories.
The governor in signing the bill said he thought it went only a
little way. He characterized it as a “ toddling step ” in the right
direction, an effort which should be encouraged rather than dis­
couraged.
Mr. S te w a rt. We have a record of two deaths in laboratory work.
We have a general record of 18 deaths, and 10 more dying from the
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Report of Pennsylvania (by Mr. Ainsworth).
The 1929 session did not pass much legislation affecting the Pennsylvania
Department of Labor and Industry that is of particular interest to this
association.
An amendment to the child labor law was passed giving the State department
of public instruction or local school boards the duty of designating certain
physicians as the physicians who will examine minors between the ages of 14
and 16 desiring to secure employment. The child labor law always required
physical examinations, but the minor could have the examination made by any
physician. This permitted irregularities to creep in which the recent amend­
ment is designed to correct.
In order that the prosecution procedure will be uniform for all laws enforced
by the department of labor and industry several laws were amended to make
this possible.
The boiler and elevator laws were amended, principally in reference to
inspection fees, and to divorce the laws from the general factory law. In
the past the department could only inspect boilers and elevators for the pro­
tection of employees. For instance, if a man owned a building that was leased
to other parties, and the owner elected to fire the boiler himself instead of
employing a fireman, the boiler did not come under the jurisdiction of the
department. Now the public hazard is recognized and all boilers come under
the jurisdiction of the department. The amendment to the elevator law also
prohibits representatives of elevator manufacturing companies from making
legal inspections. All inspections must now be made either by inspectors of
the department or of insurance companies authorized to do business within
the State. There is nothing in the law, however, to prevent an elevator owner
from entering into a service agreement with an elevator manufacturer for
service inspections.
Report of Alberta (by Mr. Smitten).
A new steam boilers act was passed, bringing into line various amendments
passed during the last few years, and providing for an extension of the scope
to include the distilling of oil, refrigerating systems and requiring that all
persons employed in welding pressure vessels must pass an examination and
be licensed.
The workmen’s compensation act was amended to provide a longer period
for reporting hernia cases, the time being extended from 24 hours to 72 hours.
The amendment gives to the workmen’s compensation board wider powers
to determine rates of earnings for compensation purposes.
An act was passed to provide for old-age pensions. This is similar to the
legislation in the other Provinces and is an act based upon the Federal statute,
which provides for an agreement to be entered into between the Province and
the Federal Government relative to administration and payments to aged per­
sons. The Federal act provides the general basis as to age of person entitled,
length of residence, etc. The act has been proclaimed and it is hoped to com­
mence payment of the pensions on the 1st day of August, 1929.
Report of Ontario (by Mr. Ballantyne).
The most important piece of legislation passed by the Ontario Government
during the 1929 session was an act providing for the payment of old-age
pensions. This act provides that persons of 70 years and over in necessitous
circumstances may receive a maximum pension of $240 per annum. The
total amount of income permitted for beneficiaries under this act is $365 per
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the total amount of $865 is not exceeded. Only British subjects by birth or
naturalization are eligible for old-age pensions. All persons claiming a pen­
sion must have resided in Canada at least 20 years and not less than 5 years
in the Province in which a claim is made. The old-age pension act passed
by the Dominion Government provides for the payment of a subvention to
provincial governments who enact concurrent legislation. The Dominion au­
thority pays 50 per cent of the total amount of pensions paid by any Province.
The Ontario act provides that municipalities shall contribute 20 per cent of
the provincial cost of paying old-age pensions. This act has not yet been pro­
claimed, but it is anticipated that it will be in operation on or about November
1, 1929.
Other amendments to several statutes administered by the Ontario Depart­
ment of Labor were passed by the Ontario Legislature, but these acts do not
contain any new principles with respect to the protection or welfare of
workers in industry.

[At the suggestion of John Roach, deputy commissioner of labor
of New Jersey, Lewis DeBlois, director safety engineering divi­
sion, National Bureau of Casualty and Surety Underwriters, was
invited to give a paper on the subiect of the “ Necessity for Safety
Standardization in the United States—How Can This Be Brought
About %”
[It seems that at a meeting of the Safety Code Correlating Com­
mittee, advisory to the American Standards Association, which was
hold in New York City, April 17, 1929, a spirited discussion arose
on the apparent indifference or negligence of State departments of
labor and commissions in regard to taking advantage of safety codes
that have been prepared for the guidance of industry, and the prac­
tice, that has prevailed in many jurisdictions, of compiling safety
regulations that conflict with the standard regulations prepared by
the American Standards Association. Many States have given but
little consideration to the adoption of standard safety rules, and
have no well-developed program for the prevention of accidents.
[Mr. DeBlois, therefore, was invited to attend the convention and
discuss the work of the American Standards Association to the end
that the commissioners might be interested enough to return to
their jurisdictions and use the safety codes that are available, pro­
vided that these codes are applicable to the conditions in the par­
ticular States. It is desirable that there be definite standard rules
throughout the United States to enable builders of machinery to
safeguard equipment at its source, with the assurance that the
methods employed will be acceptable to the several State authorities.]
Necessity for Safety Standardization in the United States— How Can
This be Brought About?
B y L e w is D e B lois , D ’rector S a fety E ngineering D ivision , N a tion a l B u reau
o f Casualty and Surety U n derw riters

I
assume that it is not necessary to convince you of the importance
of basic safety standards by telling you that they are as essential
to those who desire industrial-accident prevention as are textbooks
to the school-teacher, law books to the lawyer, or military regulations
to the soldier. They are the crystallization of experience—the con­
sensus on what is indispensable for the protection of human life—




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the only worth-while by-product of accidental injury. If we did not
collect such knowledge and apply it intelligently to the prevention
of accidents we would be as irresponsible as children and little better
than savages. Such information is virtually priceless, for it has
been bought and paid for with blood and suffering and human life
itself. Whether it is to be enacted into law, adopted as regulations,
or merely embodied in a code for general use is relatively immaterial
so long as it is written down and made available to those who need it.
We have in the United States two national bodies concerned in the
making of industrial safety standards: The American Standards
Association, the structure and methods of which I need not describe,
and the National Council on Compensation Insurance, a semigovernmentally controlled body representing the stock, mutual, and Statefund casualty insurance interests. Its code is the industrial com­
pensation rating schedule. (The National Safety Council produces
“ safe practices pamphlets,” but they are not, strictly speaking,
standards or codes.) Since, for the most part, insurance interests
are represented on the American Standards Association committees
by the same men who have to do with the making of the industrial
compensation rating schedule and efforts are exerted to keep these
two sets of standards as nearly parallel as practicable, their safe­
guarding requirements are to-day quite similar. Such differences as
exist are due in the main to inherent delays in making additions or
amendments. In so far as they cover their respective fields, it can
be said without gross error that we have only one body of safety
standards for guidance which are national and authoritative. They
are not, however, and in the nature of things can never be, final
or perfect.
Aside from the safety rules or codes of industrial corporations and
trade associations, the application of safety standards to manufactur­
ing industry comes about either through the influence of the insurance
carriers with the industrial compensation rating schedule as their
instrument or by the enforcement of State laws or regulations.
While the effect of the insurance effort may vary, it is at least based
on a single set of requirements. State enforcement, however, is quite
another matter. Granted that it is not always possible to control
the action of legislatures and induce the framers of bills and legis­
lative committees to follow accepted national standards, it would
seem as though something could be done to bring State departments
of labor into line when formulating intended regulations or amending
them.
To what extent are the laws, or regulations, or orders of the States
at variance on fundamental requirements? I must confess that I
do not know. I have never seen a comprehensive comparative state­
ment of their requirements and doubt whether such a document is
in existence. If you wish to understand why it does not exist, try
to prepare one; because of the innumerable, detailed divergencies
and the differences in phraseology, you will find it an almost im­
possible task.
With a little time at my disposal I have been able to study the
requirements adopted by 13 States for the protection of workers from
contact with toothed gearing. I selected gears because they present
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for variations in protection. The 13 States were merely those whose
regulations were on my desk at the time. They are fairly well dis­
tributed ; six of them are important industrially; eight of them have
a reputation for active interest in industrial safety.
Taking up first the matter of coverage: Two States make no at­
tempt to define it. One State specifically demands protection for
44all gears wherever located.” Four States agree on 44all gears
exposed to contact” ; one insists that it must be 44hazardous contact ”
(when is contact with gears free from hazard?) and another that
they must be “ inrunning gears ”—an expression reminiscent of
44left-handed monkey wrenches ” since the direction depends wholly
on how one looks at the gears. Another State makes it 44all powerdriven gears exposed to contact55 with disregard for the fact that
all gears are moved by power of some sort. Four States, however,
agree on the A. S. A. and I. C. E. S. definition: All gears wherever
located, except adjusting gears which do not normally revolve.
These differences are, however, relatively unimportant.
When we consider the general provisions for protection, we en­
counter an amazing tangle. There are three well-known methods
of guarding the teeth and mesh point: By encasing the gears in a
close-fitting inclosure of solid metal or mesh, by surrounding the
teeth with a ribbon of metal which has flanges projecting inward
beyond the roots of the teeth, or by erecting a fence of mesh or a
railing at some distance from the gears. For the sake of brevity,
we shall refer to these methods as 44casing,” 44ribbon,” or 44fence,”
and otherwise ignore the details of construction.
Four of the 13 States require either casings or ribbons and
2 more are willing to have casings or ribbons or will permit
fences under special conditions which do not coincide at all. This,
however, is all the uniformity one finds; after that it is each State
for itself. One will permit only ribbons; one demands 44complete
inclosure ” without defining how; one demands nothing but 44recom­
mends complete boxing.” One requires casings but will waive this
requirement, if it is impracticable, in favor of ribbons. Another
specifies casings or ribbons, but if both of these are impracticable
will be satisfied with a fence. Still another specifies casings or
fences but can be appeased with a ribbon. The last appears to be
wholly indifferent and will accept casing or fence or ribbon without
restrictions. And there are other differences. Some require fences
to be extended to the height of 7 feet above the floor; others to 6
feet; one permits a 5-foot fence if it is 2 feet away from the gears.
One State is willing to accept for small gears located on shaft ends
a revolving flange without any other inclosure.
Now we come to the revolving spoke hazard for which the ribbon
guard offers no protection, since it is open centrally. As to the
existence of the hazard, three States utterly ignore it; one State be­
lieves it exists in all gears having spokes or holes in the web, one
affirms its existence when these spaces are 2y2 inches in size, three
ignore it unless the gear is at least 18 inches in diameter, five States
demand its protection 44where it exists ” without telling us where it
dees exist. Seven States tell us how to guard it and are somewhat at
variance; six States do not tell us how. Only one State mentions the




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use of a disk guard fastened to the spokes which is permitted in the
I. C. R. S. and A. S. A. Power Transmission Safety Code and is
common practice.
This is the story so far as I have been able to interpret these
regulations. The title of the story might have been “ The Thirteen
Original States,” for I suspect them all of trying to be a little origi­
nal. There are 19 more States claiming to have power-transmission
safety standards, and all of these, I suppose, have introduced their
little originalities. But speaking seriously, is it possible that after
15 years of the safety movement we have not yet learned how to
protect the gearing which grinds the fingers off a colored mill hand
in Alabama in precisely the same way that it mutilates a Swede in
Wisconsin, an Italian in New York City, or an Indian in British
Columbia? I have seen in motion pictures Japanese workmen
protected by first-class gear guards on canning machines in far­
away Saghalien; friends of mine have told me of American
machinery in shipment to the Soviet Republic which was better
guarded than any they had been able to buy for use at home. Are
you willing to admit that we are behind the Japanese and Russians
in preventing accidents? Is originality and independence in the
matter of State regulations more precious than human life?
To a recent inquiry which we sent out for information on the
guarding of machine tools, 16 States did not reply, 11 States said
they had no regulations, 8 had general provisions only, and 13 had
specific requirements. Some of the replies were interesting: One
State wrote that its inspectors followed “ the codes of the different
underwriters and the American Society of Mechanical Engineers55;
another that it used no codes but relied on the experience of its in­
spectors ; a third, that it needed neither codes nor inspectors because
plant safety engineers were looking after conditions satisfactorily.
Another State advised us that it used the regulations of an adjoining
State, but I can not imagine for what purpose since it has no inspec­
tors and no power of enforcement. There is absence of uniformity,
you see, all along the line.
What are the results? We have in the first place insurance in­
spectors and State inspectors working to different ends with conse­
quent embarrassment to plant owners *and depreciation of the
inspectors’ ability. To be forced to change a safety device which
another inspector had just informed you would meet every require­
ment does not help your disposition toward safety inspectors and
the safety movement in general. From the insurance angle the situ­
ation is not a happy one. We are trying to keep the I. C. R. S. in
harmony with the A. S. A. codes, but when we transmit A. S. A.
codes to our member companies we can only urge their use “ where
they do not conflict with local laws, regulations, and ordinances.”
This materially weakens their value to the companies. Think also
of the situation confronting the large corporations which operate
lants in many States; their safety departments have not only to
ring about the use of their own safety regulations but must see
to it that all State regulations are complied with—which is no simple
task, as I know from years of experience. It is easier to forget what

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the State wants and quietly damn its inspectors when they come
around.
My deepest sympathy, however, goes out to those manufacturers
of machinery who desire to make their products complete and safe.
Have you wondered why we have made so little advance toward
getting machines adequately guarded by their makers? Have you
thought of the difficulties confronting them? Permit me to quote
from a letter from a man who knows the situation of the machinetool builders:
I have no doubt whatever that if we can get the different States to agree
on uniformity, we shall be able to get the machine-tool builders to conform
to these uniform requirements and build guarding devices as essential parts
of their machines. They simply can not do it now in some cases.
This, of course, would be particularly true in the matter of guarding the
transmissions. * * *
It is a very good time indeed for us to get the State authorities on to uni­
form guarding as much as possible. There is no difficulty whatever in getting
the machine-tool industry to add the guards and to charge for them what they
are worth, but the only trouble up to now has been that they couldn’t tell what
guards different States would need. Some want openwork, lacy effects in
their built guards; others want an absolutely closed-up guard. Then there are
varying heights. * * *
You can count on us to cooperate fully. Get the regulations going, and we
will do the rest in getting the manufacturers to realize the necessity of com­
plying with them.

To obtain uniform protection of machinery by the makers would
constitute a very real advancement. It would lift a material por­
tion of the burden from the shoulders of the State inspectors, the
insurance inspectors, and the safety engineers of industrial concerns.
I know of one large corporation which has been forced to abandon
its former policy of specifying on purchase requisitions the inclusion
of safety devices because so many inadequate and substandard de­
vices were supplied by the makers that it proved cheaper to build
their own. Now they specify “ no safety devices to be included.”
I do not blame them, but it is a move in the wrong direction.
Another thing would be accomplished in time by maker-guarded
machinery: we would have more and better guarded machinery in
those small industrial establishments which are reached by inspec­
tors rarely, if at all. It is this class of establishment which is most
backward in doing the things it ought to do and is the hardest to
reach. Let the manufacturers guard the machinery for them and
some of our difficulties will be overcome.
I have been surprised to find that Minnesota has a law (sec.
4145, G. S. 1923) prohibiting the manufacture and sale of unguarded
machinery. It reads:
Manufacture and sale of unguarded machinery prohibited.—Whenever prac­
ticable, the points of danger in any machine or mechanism shall be securely
guarded by the maker, and the manufacture or sale of any machine or mecha­
nism not so guarded is hereby prohibited.

I do not know how effective this law is, but it is probably fortunate
for the manufacturers of machinery that similar laws are not yet
on the statute books of all our States. It will be time enough to
discuss legal prohibition when we have cleared up the confusion
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What shall we do about it? Surely, something must be done.
Probably the most important field for work lies in the protection
of mechanical power transmission. It would, I think, be a good
place to begin. The American Standards Association code on this
subject is now due for revision under joint sponsorship of the Inter­
national Association of Industrial Accident Boards and Commis­
sions, the American Society of Mechanical Engineers, and the
National Bureau of Casualty and Surety Underwriters.
There are some State labor officials on the present committee but
not enough to guarantee adoption of a completed code by all of the
32 States using power transmission safety codes. I can not speak
for the American Standards Association, but I see no reason why
the revised code as prepared by the present committee before adop­
tion should not be submitted for review and final endorsement to
a larger reference body on which all States were represented. Such
a referendum could be negotiated by mail and every effort used to
adjust differences and causes for criticism. It could not be done,
however, with the implied purpose of securing State adoption since
that is not a function of the Amercan Standards Association.
With this first step done, some interested national body other than
the American Standards Association should prepare, on the basis of
the adopted code, a set of model State regulations and, for the use of
States having no power of enforcement, a model enabling act. It
would then remain to secure their actual adoption by as many States
as possible. This might be undertaken by the same interested body
or by an association of organizations formed for the purpose. If
these included trade associations concerned with the manufacture of
machines and machinery, we would be killing two birds with one
stone.
I am throwing out these ideas only for purposes of discussion—
they may be entirely invalid. I am convinced, however, that the
situation warrants your very careful attention and perhaps the
appointment by your organization of a special committee to give it
immediate consideration. Accidental industrial deaths are not de­
creasing. What we have done may have checked a sharper rise in
the curve, but I believe that you will agree with me that a civilized
people can not contemplate with equanimity the killing of 24,000
persons a year. In the last decade accidents in the United States
have abruptly terminated 830,000 lives, and of this slaughter indus­
try is responsible for at least one-quarter. The time has certainly
come for more concerted, positive, and constructive action.
DISCUSSION

Mr. S t e w a r t . May I ask Mr. DeBlois how he makes up his esti­
mate that industry is responsible for one-quarter? That is decidedly
low. Is it not responsible for about one-half ?
Mr. D e B lois . Of course we do not know. People are guessing,
more or less, and the estimates of the number of industrial deaths in
a year vary from 18,000 to about 27,000. The National Safety Coun­
cil’s figures for 1928, which are just out, place the number at 26,000.
But it is nothing more than a guess. I do not know what we have.
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reports. Of course the census reports do not tell us how many are
industrial deaths and how many are not. We do not know the num­
ber of street and home deaths. My own guess is one-quarter on
streets and highways, one-quarter (with a question mark) in' in­
dustry, and one-quarter in public places other than streets and
homes, which will embrace the majority of travelers’ deaths of which
there are a large number. For further figures I refer you to the
National Safety Council. They might be higher or they might be
lower, no one knows.
Mr. S t e w a r t . Y ou mentioned a standard guard. Do you think it
is possible to put a standard guard on a machine used in different
places ?
Mr. D e B l o is . In my experience it is a hard matter to pick out a
universal guard and say that they have to put it on this machine,
and then say to another man that he has to put on an altogether
different guard. I think you can standardize as between States, but
I do not think you can standardize as between machines. My quar­
rel is not with your point at all. There will have to be exceptions
made; and there are exceptions made to-day according to the judg­
ment of the inspectors, and so forth. You know that better than I do.
My paper did not mention anything about the deviation that lies be­
tween the State code of regulations and the actual application of
those regulations to industry. There is a field there for “ give and
take,” and I think that is where the answer to your question lies.
I can see no reason at all why with such an ordinary thing as tool
guides, for example, we can not have uniform regulations in our
States.
A D elegate . We have taken this matter up with the manufac­
turers in Ontario, so that they may deal with the machine before it
leaves the plant. We find it difficult, after a machine leaves the
manufacturer’s plant, to ask the manufacturer why he did not put
a guard on it. We have had a great deal of difficulty in getting
manufacturers to put guards on. We find the results are better if
the manufacturer makes something that completely covers the gears;
that is easier than putting a fence around. You must have the gear­
ing practically covered, so that a man can not get inside. We find
that we get better results when we ask the manufacturer to put the
guards on.
Mr. D e B lo is . Guards made by the manufacturer are more likely
to stay on the machines when the machines are sold. Are the manu­
facturers not more likely to stay with a machine when they make
guards rather than when the guards are made off the premises?
Mr. D a v ie . When a State inspector makes an inspection of a
plant under the State inspection law, you will find that someone
in authority in that department is the fairest to deal with. Of
course I realize that you have something to sell in your particular
branch of business.
I have always cooperated with the insurance inspector when we
have had a problem of that kind, and I find it a good idea before
issuing any orders to sit down and come to some understanding or
agreement as to what is about right. It is largely a matter of get­
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spector. I always feel that if we work along cooperative lines we
will get better results.
I say quite frankly that this outburst of mine has not come out
of any insurance experience or from any issue with the insurance
companies. The whole thing has come out of meetings I have
attended recently, called by various State commissioners of labor,
and by talking with men who have had to do with the enforcement
of labor laws in the States and with people connected with American
labor associations. There is, unquestionably, a value there to the
insurance people; but what I am interested in at the moment is not
the benefit to the insurance companies so much as in actually getting
at what is one of our fundamental difficulties—that is, getting ma­
chinery guarded at the source. We may be sliding a little back­
wards, especially when we discover that the Pullman Car Co. has
ceased requiring guards to be provided.
A D e l e g a t e . Inspectors in the business a long time realize fully
that at the present time our greatest hazards do not come from what
wc call machine accidents. Statistics of industrial accidents rather
support that. The campaign that has been carried on by the mem­
bers of this association in particular has been to the end that all
modern machines should be equipped with safeguards at the source
of supply. That is the proper place for the guards to be put on
the machines; but when you get some old warhorse like myself you
will have to take the safeguard off, because he can not do the work;
in fact, I have seen the whole equipment laid on a bench in the room
because it was handicapping the men in their work.
From my point of view, if the insurance inspectors would sit
down with fellows like us, we could do much more good than we
have done in the past.
Mr. A i n s w o r t h . As a representative of a State that has taken a
great interest in the national code program and from the viewpoint
of one with considerable experience in the development of codes,
may I say that the national codes have been of vital importance in
the development of Pennsylvania’s State codes.
The statement has been made that the national code program as
outlined by Mr. DeBlois is no doubt of value to insurance companies
in general which he represents. I am of the firm belief that the
national codes are of far greater value to the various States than to
the insurance companies. Codes are adopted and enforced by labor
departments for one purpose only; namely, for the prevention of
accidents. Just so long as there are a hundred different legal ways
of guarding machines and other equipment, just so long will guards
be of substandard design, and just so long will accidents continue to
exist. Generally speaking there is only one correct way of guard­
ing mechanical apparatus and that method should be followed by
all regulatory bodies if the maximum results are to be obtained.
This system does not destroy States’ rights or the privilege of
working with local industries in the development of State codes. At
least we have found that to be the case in Pennsylvania. For many
years we followed the general practice of most States, of calling to­
gether a State committee of experts, manufacturers, and employees,
for the development of particular codes. Five or six years ago we
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had to dispense with the State committees. This departure was
opposed for some time but I believe it is gradually being overcome.
We have not lost the contact with the industries of the State because
of our system of public hearings. No code, whether State or
National, is adopted in Pennsylvania until it has been presented to
public hearings held at various points throughout the Common­
wealth. This gives industry an opportunity to criticize the pro­
posed regulations and offer to the department the suggestions it
would have previously made at the committee meetings. The criti­
cisms and suggestions received at the public hearings, if of an
important nature, are referred to a committee for advice. This
advice is then sent to the American Standards Association for the
benefit of the sectional committee that drafted the national code in
order that the code may be revised. In this way national uni­
formity is retained and the State’s interests have been satisfied.
This procedure has been tested out in Pennsylvania and can be
strongly recommended to any State that has not taken up the use of
national codes.
The trouble with the national code program as far as this asso­
ciation is concerned is the fact that the representatives of the asso­
ciation on the code committees work as individuals rather than as
representatives. If more of the States would become interested in
the movement and stand ready to assist the association’s representa­
tive on the code committees, there would be less likelihood that the
codes would need dressing up to make them meet individual State
conditions. States should also take advantage of the rules of the
American Standards Association which permits any State to have
representation on a code committee regardless of whether the States
are represented by this association or not.
We certainly hope that more States will take up the national code
program. We are convinced that you will find it a vital part of
your accident prevention programs.
Mr. S t e w a r t . I am very much interested in this discussion. It
shows, contrary to what we sometimes feel, that we are making a
little progress. Twenty-five years ago, I persuaded a Congressman
to introduce a bill which provided that no machinery which was not
guarded at the place of manufacture should be transported across
State lines. A few months afterwards I received a letter from him
stating that it seemed I was the only man in the United States that
had ever thought of, or was in favor of, such a thing; that the
requirements of the different States were such that it was absolutely
impossible; and that while he introduced the bill he did not feel
justified in urging it.
It is only within the last 15 years that we have even taken up
this matter of trying to get uniformity. Dr. De Blois’s paper is the
most encouraging thing I have heard for some time. I want to say
that, as far as this organization is concerned, it has very often lacked
a real object of existence—it has been shooting without any mark
to shoot at, simply to hear the gun go off. I feel that it would be
a very important step to take now; and I shall introduce a resolu­
tion that this organization take up as its objective, for a few years at
least, the unification of standards with the object of getting the
different States to agree on something whereby we can have ma-




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chinery guarded at the place of manufacture. I think it is well
worth our while to work for it, and I hope that this convention will
adopt such a resolution.
Mr. R o a c h . I think I am largely responsible for getting Mr.
DeBlois into this trouble. I represent this organization on the code
correlating committee; I also represent the International Association
of Industrial Accident Boards and Commissions on several code
committees. For eight or nine years the members have put in valu­
able time on that work. A few months ago the committee had a
meeting in New York—Mr. DeBlois was present and began to check
up on how many jurisdictions had taken any notice of the work
done by the American Standards Association. It was surprising to
learn how few of the officials in our country knew anything about
it, or had any conception of what an engineering code meant.
Now you can not coordinate and make uniform groups of indus­
trial safety rules unless you know something about them. I am
firmly of the opinion that most of the delegates that are representing
their States or Provinces in this convention to-day do not know
much about these codes. I would not know anything about them
myself unless I was on the code committee and made some study of
the situation. I would say to all of you that you could do no better
service for your people in the promotion of a larger measure of
safety in industry than by writing to the secretary of this organi­
zation or to Mr. DeBlois and get copies of the 15 or 20 completed
safety codes, study them over, and see if they can be* made part of
a safety program in your respective jurisdictions.
Some of these codes have been drafted after months and years
of study and effort on the part of trained engineering experts who
have no personal bias whatever in doing the work. If you work
on any of these standardization committees, and you have certain
peculiar notions of your own, it is surprising how quickly somebody
will knock a chip off your shoulder and set you down. In deciding
mooted points it is a question of give and take, so that these codes
probably represent the best engineering thought in safety circles.
I have visited factories in a number of different States. In some
States belts and gears are not safely guarded. In some cases when
a factory inspector discovers a break m a passageway floor it is
corrected by throwing a board over it. That kind of practice obtains
where codes are not adopted by labor departments.
While we have been meeting in conventions as an association for
the past 18 years (I think the first meeting I attended was held in
Washington), this is the first time I have known this association to
take up a definite project of this kind and shoot at a definite mark.
I hope that out of this discussion will arise a greater interest in
the adoption of uniform codes, and that every one of the States and
Provinces will profit by the work of the American Standards
Association.
General S w eetser . I also agree with what Mr. Stewart and Mr.
Roach have said. I have served on these committees on codes, or
have had a representative there, and I have also had the experience
of my friend from Pennsylvania. In Massachusetts we manufac­
ture a great deal of machinery of all kinds, and we are getting new
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In the consideration of these codes, you have to consider the law
m each State. The law varies in the different States, and, as Mr.
DeBlois has said, he has considered a standard for a standardized
machine.
We insist upon a manufacturer in Massachusetts wrho manufac­
tures a machine to be used in the State to furnish a guard for
his particular machine.
We also have a blanket law in Massachusetts which provides that
all dangerous machinery must be guarded, and we take that up with
the manufacturer of machines even in New Jersey and New York
when the machines are used in Massachusetts; we correspond with
the manufacturer there and try to have every machine safeguarded.
Massachusetts has adopted the national code, and uses it. Mr.
Roach said he was surprised at the number of States that did not
use it. These safety codes are on file and are always considered.
Although it is not a code State, Massachusetts has a general law, as
well as a blanket law, to cover the subject.
On the other hand, I agree with Mr. Stewart when he says that
we ought to have a definite object. I think that is one of the rea­
sons why we do not have a larger attendance and more enthusiasm
at our meetings—we have no definite object.
Doctor P a t t o n . I do not want to prolong this discussion, as the
time is going fast. I think we are indebted to Mr. DeBlois for hav­
ing given us a very interesting and instructive paper on the neces­
sity for safety standardization in the United States, and how it can
be brought about.
It may be, as Mr. Stewart said, that we have made some progress.
I am not going to anticipate any resolution Mr. Stewart has in mind,
although I confess thao I had in mind the introduction of a sugges­
tion or a resolution very much along the same lines.
Going back to ground which has been very well covered now, I
would suggest that this convention appoint a subcommittee to de­
vise ways and means of coordinating the safety codes. I know that
coordination and uniformity have a bad sound these days; both of
them are worked to death, but this intolerable confusion must come
to an end, or safety work and all the talk about safety will largely
evaporate into mere talk, without getting anywhere. This associa­
tion would have more influence, if it would set up this particular
object of trying to unify or coordinate all safety activities now go­
ing on in the United States and Canada. Not having anything to
sell—because I am in no way related to that part of it—I may say
that I think all these safety code activities should be coordinated,
right across this continent.
Mr. D a v ie . Let me say that I certainly am in sympathy with a
uniform code. I shall study very carefully the resolution to be pro­
posed by Mr. Stewart, as he is one of the men I have always looked
up to in this particular work. I think that we all look at these
things too much from our own point of view; and I don’t want any­
one to leave with the idea that I am not in favor of a uniform code.
Mr. S e il l er . I am surprised at the remarks of Mr. Roach when he
says that in 18 years there has been no definite program worked out.
I agree with Commissioner Stewart in his remarks upon the question
of safety standards, The message brought to us by Mr. DeBlois




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certainly deserves a great deal of consideration. I have in my
library what one almost might call a national clearing house of labor
laws, and I have found a great deal of difference in the codes, as
Mr. DeBlois has pointed out, as well as in other labor legislation.
It seems to me to be one big maze or conglomeration of things put
together which do not work out in either theory or practice.
In the matter of uniformity, let me say that I am heartily in favor
of it. We are working to that end in our State, aided by the coopera­
tion of the safety departments and the insurance companies. In
fact we are going to organize through our universities and colleges;
we have organized a group of instructors who are teaching political
science and social science, and we are getting in shape to adopt a
national safety code as promulgated by the American Engineering
Standards Committee.
I can see no reason whatever, if it can at all be done, why there
should not be uniformity of guards adopted by manufacturers of
machinery. If it is practicable to do work on a machine here in
Toronto, why should it not be practicable to do that work in old
Kentucky ?
Take as an illustration laundry machinery. I can see no difference
between clothes being put into a laundry machine and taken out
again in Toronto and in Kentucky.
Take the standardization of machinery, I think we can work that
in on different standards, but on the construction of codes we have
had much difficulty.
I think safety work can be developed successfully. As has been
pointed out, I have found differences of opinion between inspec­
tors, where they had no standards set. We have found that that in
concrete cases defeats us many times, and handicaps us always.
I am not acquainted with the work of the American Engineering
Standards Committee, but one of the first things I will do will be to
make myself familiar with organizations of that kind. I have in my
library a, complete code, and we always urge the adoption of this
code by the people of Kentucky. We think they are going to come
across in time. You have some things in your code that we do not
have in Kentucky—certain textile machinery in Massachusetts is not
considered by the code in Kentucky. So there are differences and
exceptions. I think there are about four different phases of industry
covered there. We do not have anything like cocoa grinding.
If this organization did nothing more than to work out a safety
standardization plan, it certainly would justify its existence.
REPOETS OF SAFETY CODE COMMITTEES
Cyril Ainsworth, of Pennsylvania, was requested to give the report
of the safety code correlating committee, as Thomas P. Kearns,
of Ohio, the association’s representative on that committee, was unable
to be present.
Report ot Safety Code Correlating Committee (by Mr. Ainsworth) :
The safety code correlating committee is the branch of the American Stand­
ards Association that supervises the development of safety codes. This com­
mittee has held only one meeting during the past year, but it was a very
important one. Two subcommittees were appointed. The first committee will




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consider the promotion of codes. It will endeavor to encourage .the adoption
of national codes by the various State and municipal regulatory bodies and by
trade associations in order that the codes will come into more general use not
only from an enforcement point of view but by manufacturers of equipment that
will eventually find its way into industry. The other committee will study
the scopes of the codes in order that there will be no omissions and no over­
lapping and thereby eliminate confusion.
These two committees are in the hands of active chairmen and there is every
reason to believe that by the time the next convention rolls around there will
be greater uniformity in the make-up and scope, and the codes will be more
widely used than in the past.1
Building exits: Considerable constructive work has been done during the past
year by the building exits code committee along the lines of making the code
more practical. The American Institute of Architects through their represen­
tative on the committee presented some very pertinent criticisms of the prac­
ticability of applying certain provisions of the code. The criticisms have
resulted in some vital changes especially in regard to means of egress from
auditoriums located in large office buildings. The work of this committee will
take years to complete because of the many ramifications of the subject and the
large amount of study that must be given to each problem, but the work is
exceedingly important and of vital interest to all organizations having the
responsibility for protection of occupants of buildings from fire and panic.
Textile code: Last year in my report of the progress of the textile code
I presented a rather gloomy picture of the work that had been done. A year
ago the picture looked as though we would never get a code. This year I can
report that a code has been developed which is now before the members of the
sectional committee for letter ballot. The code is not a particularly strong
one but it is a practical enforceable code that can gradually be developed
as the industry assumes a more favorable attitude toward the code. I am
hopeful that the code will be placed before the safety code correlating
committee for approval in the very near future.
Walk-way surfaces: The walk-way surface code is another code concerning
which we have had considerable trouble. Nearly a j7ear ago a meeting of the
sectional committee was held at which time it seemed as though it would be
absolutely impossible to develop a code without appointing a new committee
and starting work all over again. Through the diplomatic intervention of Doctor
Agnew, secretary of the American Standards Association, oil was poured on the
troubled waters and it was decided that the work of developing a code should be
taken out of the hands of the sectional committee for the time being and should
be given to a subcommittee.
This subcommittee met in Philadelphia about two weeks ago and from the
material already developed prepared a new code which it is believed will
meet with the approval of the sectional committee. It will be necessary for
the subcommittee to review the new draft before it is sent to the sectional
committee, but there will not be any delay in that respect.

Mr. S t e w a r t . Have you cut out the tables?
Mr. A i n s w o r t h . One table has been retained in the code, namely,
the table which specified certain frictional resistances for the walk­
way surfaces at definite locations. The table which contained infor­
mation as to the supposed frictional resistance of particular materials
*A complete report on the safety code correlating committee was given by John P,
M’eade, of Massachusetts (see p. 35).




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has been stricken out, not being essential to the code. Under the
code if a particular administrative authority desires information
as to the frictional resistance of certain materials instructions are
given to the manufacturer to have tests made according to the
standard procedure developed by the Bureau of Standards at
Washington.
Report on Cranes, Derricks, and Hoists (by Doctor Patton).
The work of this committee has been divided among five subcommittees as
follows:
No. 1. Overhead traveling cranes and gantries.
No. 2. Locomotive and crawling tractor cranes.
No. 3. Derricks and hoists.
No. 4. Slings, chains and hooks, wire rope and attachments, sheaves and
pulleys.
No. 5. Jacks.
The status of the work on this code up to June 1, 1929, is as follows:
The work of the subcommittee on locomotive and crawler cranes has been
completed and has been in the hands of the general committee for some little
time without any criticism. The work of the subcommittee on overhead cranes
and gantry cranes has also been practically completed, but there has been some
criticism which may delay its approval by the general committee.
Each of the subcommittees dealing with derricks and hoists and with jacks
has completed a tentative code. These will soon be released to the general
committee.
The subcommittee on wire rope, chains, and slings has not completed a
tentative draft.
As will be seen from the above statement, the work of the subcommittees
is well advanced. Each of these tentative codes has yet to be handled by
an editing committee and then go to the general committee for criticism and
approval.
Report on Dust Explosion Codes (by Mr. Burke).
The formulation of safety codes for the prevention of dust explosions has
only been undertaken in late years, and, as a matter of fact, safety codes were
only tentatively approved as American standards July 2, 1926, by the American
Engineering Standards Committee.
Work on the safety codes for the prevention of dust explosions has progressed
very favorably since their inception, and at the present time there are five
dust-explosion codes which have been adopted as American standards by tne
American Standards Association and the National Board of Fire Underwriters,
and five other codes are under study.
The five codes which have been approved to date embrace the following
industries: (1) Flour and feed mills, (2) sugar and cocoa pulverizing systems,
(3) technical grain elevators, (4) pulverized-fuel systems, and (5) starch fac­
tories ; while others under study at the present time are sulphur crushing and
pulverizing, spice grinding and pulverizing, hard-rubber grinding, woodworking,
and the pulverization and atomization of metals.
As a result of certain regulations in the National Electrical Code affecting the
five approved codes, slight revisions were being contemplated and a report on
them was made at a meeting of the dust explosion hazard committee of the
National Fire Protection Association March 11 of this year, under the chairman­
ship of Mr. David J. Price, Bureau of Chemistry, United States Department of
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The code for pulverizing systems for sugar provides, in part, detached build­
ings at safe distance, or, if near, proper construction of walls, or, if located
in plant, to have strong, noncombustible floors and ceilings and light, noncom­
bustible exterior walls, all transmission mediums in fireproof inclosure, dustproof motors, electrical control outside or properly protected if inside, true
alignment of apparatus, unit systems of pulverizers, proper electrical ground­
ing of all apparatus, and complete system of dust collectors.
The code for starch factories, governing the four operations of starch drying,
dry starch grinding and grading, pearl and powdered starch packing, and lump
starch cooking, pressing, grading, and packing, provides, in part, location in
four separate buildings, a safe distance apart, of light fireproof construction
with large window area, smooth walls, beams and ceiling, complete separation
of floors, easy accessibility to roofs of kilns for cleaning, separate dust-collection systems, explosion-relief panels for hoppers, nonsparking grinding met­
als, isolation of mills, proper venting of cyclone dust collectors, removal of
static dust and slow’ speed of spiral conveyors.
These codes were prepared by a sectional committee composed of repre­
sentatives of the Association of Governmental Officials in Industry of the
United States and Canada in conjunction with 18 others. A summary of this
list shows manufacturers 3, employers 5, employees 1, governmental regulatory
agencies 3, qualified specialists 2, insurance representatives 5, giving a total
of 19 with no one class in the majority.
As additional proof of the seriousness in which State officials are consider­
ing the fire and explosion hazards in industries, I might mention the fact that
Miss Frances Perkins, our industrial commissioner, has instigated a survey
to be made of the chemical industries of New’ York State as to fire and explo­
sion hazards, in order that we may formulate codes for their prevention.

[Mr. Burke, of the New York Department of Labor, read a letter
from the National Fire Protection Association, in which the atten­
tion of governmental officials in industry was called to the need of
adequate exit facilities, and the desirability of labor officials sup­
porting legislation relative to the requirement for fire-alarm boxes
in hospitals and other institutions.
[With the letter submitted by the National Fire Protection Asso­
ciation was a copy of the building exits code sponsored by that or­
ganization, together with a pamphlet covering a fire record of hos­
pitals and institutions.
[In addition, a code was submitted in regard to X-ray films, which
code was prepared after the Cleveland Hospital disaster. It seems
that the hazard of nitrocellulose film has been carefully considered
by the National Fire Protection Association committee on hazardous
chemicals and explosives. On recommendation of this committee,
regulations on this subject were adopted by the association in 1925,
and later published by the National Board of Fire Underwriters.
Had the recommendations of this pamphlet been complied with no
such disaster as that which occurred in Cleveland would have been
possible. The primary reason for the large loss of life in the Cleve­
land hospital fire seems to have been the X-ray film. One very im­
portant contributing factor was the arrangement of ventilating
equipment or interior communications which permitted the rapid
diffusion of the gas through the building. (This report was sub­
mitted by Robert S. Moulton, technical secretary, National Fire
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Report on Code of Colors for Gas Mask Canisters (by Mr. Roach).
A tentative draft of code was made in New York, at a meeting of the com­
mittee, in October, 1928. Since that time the code has been sent out for letter
ballot on its adoption, and it will then undoubtedly be adopted as submitted.

John P. Meade, director of industrial safety, Massachusetts, sub­
mitted a report on the work of the safety code correlating committee,
on which committee he serves as alternate to Mr. Kearns, of Ohio.
This report supplements that given by Mr. Ainsworth (see p. 31).
The report, which includes also reports of other code committees on
which Mr. Meade serves, was read by General Sweetser, of Massa­
chusetts.
Report of Safety Code Correlating Committee (by Mr Meade).
Since the last convention of the Association of Governmental Officials in In­
dustry the safety code correlating committee has held two meetings in the
city of New York on April 11 and 17, 1929.
The correlation of the various safety codes is a work of considerable magni­
tude. Its success will depend upon the application of its enactments in the
industries of the country. This may be accomplished in many different ways:
The agency of the State inspection department; the factor of workmen’s com­
pensation insurance; and the support of organized accident prevention work
under private auspices.
At the last meeting of this committee on April 17, 1929, it was voted that
the activities of the American Standards Association and the safety code
correlating committee should be constantly directed to this end. At this meet­
ing, officers of the safety code correlating committee were elected for 1929
Several announcements of changes of personnel were made, including the ap­
pointment by the International Association of Industrial Accident Boards and
Commissions of Henry McColl, of St. Paul, as alternate, vice G. 'N. Livdahl.
Plans were made for future work in the correlation and promotion of codes in
industry, and discussion occurred in relation to the attitude of the various in­
dustrial States. Reports were made indicating that in some States an effort
had been made to bring the rules and regulations into conformity with the
insurance-rating schedules. Complications arising from elaborate provisions in
detail were discussed at considerable length. Ways and means were adopted
to facilitate the work of the correlating committee.
Announcement was made that the American Institute of Architects had
drafted a safety code for construction work, following a request for cooperation
from the Workers’ Health Bureau. The draft had been prepared after a careful
study of all existing codes. Reference was made to a safety code for window
washing and attention called to the existence of the Empire State Mutual In­
surance Co., which is composed practically entirely of window-washing con­
cerns. Approval of the personnel of the section committee on this safety code
for window washing was recommended to the Standards Council, providing
that effort be made to secure additional insurance and employee representation.
Codes for mechanical refrigeration; machine tools, including hot metal saws,
shears, centrifugal extractors, and wire-drawing machines were considered in
the order named.
Other codes considered at the meeting included those for mechanical power
transmission; textiles; industrial sanitation; exhaust systems; spray painting;
dry cleaning; rock drilling; and the removal of silica dust.
In a memorandum to the members of the safety code correlating committee,
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safety code correlating committee was outlined and suggestions made as to
future policies. It is presented herewith, in the belief that it will promote
greater interest in the work at hand.
MEMORANDUM ON WORK OF SAFETY CODE CORRELATING COMMITTEE

It seems proper at this time to express the thought that the safety code
correlating committee may well consider the advisability of expanding its
activities so as to undertake some lines of work which have not before
seemed practicable. Hitherto the committee has confined its attention to such
matters relating to the determination of the advisability of codes, sufficiency of
sectional committee representation, and degree of conformity with the rules of
procedure in preparation and submission of codes as have been referred to it
from time to time by the American Engineering Standards Committee, now the
American Standards Association. A considerable number of codes have been
started and many of them completed, and the safety code correlating com­
mittee is now in a position to devote less of its time to such work as has
been mentioned and more to availing itself of the larger opportunities which
lie before it.
That these larger opportunities should be realized, if possible, is evident
from a consideration of the real value of safety codes to industry. At the
present time, manufacturers are subject to uncertainty and often to consider­
able expense due to the existing and increasing multiplicity of nonuniform
safety standards promulgated by the many States and municipalities of the
country and various organizations. Such burdens have come to the point of
being quite keenly felt by manufacturers, not only on the ground of expense,
but by the inconvenience attendant, when plants are located in different
places, upon complying with a variegated collection of safety rules differing
from each other in many points.
It would seem highly desirable; therefore, that the American Standards As­
sociation should not only stimulate the development under its procedure of
codes covering fully the current needs in the safety field, but should make a
systematic effort to procure wide—if possible general—acceptance of these
codes and their use as standard practices in private endeavor. Much excel­
lent work in connection with safety codes has been done by the American
Engineering Standards Committee, and we may perhaps be pardoned for feeling
that the safety code correlating committee has had a real part in it. At the
same time, we can not but feel that much more work remains to be done,
especially in fields that have so far been cultivated in only a limited way.
The work lying before us in the future would seem to fall under several prin­
cipal headings:
(1)
Furthering the use of completed safety codes: While some of the codes
already developed have obtained considerable recognition both from State
officials and from industrial concerns, and have, therefore, to some extent come
into practical use, this is true only in a very scattering wa;r, and in only one
or two instances, so far as I know, lias a code come into anything like general
use. The policy heretofore followed has consisted chiefly of bringing the
codes to the attention of insurance companies, labor departments, industrial
commissions and municipal authorities in the hope that the fairness and
comprehensiveness of the code provisions would lead to their being incor­
porated into the work done in the industrial field by those agencies.
All of these agencies, and among them may be mentioned the National
Safety Council with its large industrial membership, have cooperated in the
most cordial manner, but owing to lack of facilities, this propaganda work has
not been conducted and followed up as regularly as would seem desirable. It
has appeared impossible to make any systematic effort to reconcile the pro­
visions of codes developed otherwise with those of codes developed under Amer­
ican Engineering Standards Committee procedure. It has also seemed impossi­
ble to bring these codes to the attention of many industrial and other organiza­
tions in such a forceful way that they would be led to associate themselves with
the task of getting general recognition for the codes.
The program for the promotion of the use of codes should include the five
general divisions outlined in SC 53, the letter of February 11, 1929, calling
the meeting, subsequently postponed, of the safety code correlating committee.
And there are other possibilities which might well be followed up. It is gen­
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regular operation by industrial concerns is the most desirable and most effec­
tive way of bringing the codes into general use, and much assistance in this
direction may be obtained from the members of the several sectional com­
mittees working with the industrial concerns with which they are associated,
and with the trade associations to which these concerns belong, but this work
should be planned, stimulated, and carried out on as systematic a basis as may
be developed.
There might well also be a systematic arrangement by which, when a State
through its labor department or industrial commission is developing a code
for use within its borders, the fairness and adequacy of the American Standards
Association code on the particular subject can be forcefully brought to the
attention of the State authorities or conference called by them by members
of the American Standards Association sectional committee developing that
code, who are entirely familiar with its provisions and the practical reasons
for them.
In some States it is a practice to hold public hearings on State codes which
have been developed, and it would be advisable for the American Standards
Association or the sectional committee developing a code covering the same
subject to be represented at such hearings by some one or more persons in the
particular State who are familiar with the development of the American Stand­
ards Association code and who are capable of properly defending it at a hear­
ing. It would also be desirable to have similar representation at meetings of
State or trade associations to whose business a particular American Standards
Association code is applicable, so that if a place on the program may be ob­
tained for exposition of the advantages of the code such an exposition can be
forcefully given.
A number of other promotion activities which could well be conducted on a
more systematic basis will readily occur to any member of the safety code
correlating committee, such as, for instance, promoting more complete coopera­
tion by insurance companies through their inspectors in the industrial field,
securing directly the cordial cooperation of trade associations in industries to
which certain American Standards Association codes directly apply, and others
too numerous to mention here but which should also be taken into consideration
when a promotion program comes finally to be developed on a more compre­
hensive scale than that which has been followed. Careful consideration of all
possibilities of furthering the use of completed safety codes and the develop­
ment of a systematic plan for realizing all these possibilities as rapidly and
fully as may be possible seems well worth the earnest consideration of the
safety code correlating committee.
(2) Correlating the codes for publication and use: Codes have been devel­
oped, and naturally, by sectional committees concerning themselves each pri­
marily with one particular phase of accident prevention or with safety in a
particular field. The result has been that some of the codes, such as power
transmission, for instance, apply to conditions which are common to practically
all branches of industry and lines of work, and their provisions, partially at
least, should really be a part of each of a number of other codes. It seems
desirable that some plan should be carefully worked out which will make each
code cover fully the field to which it is desired to apply without unnecessarily
duplicating provisions contained in other codes, and without, at the same time,
referring to other codes in such a way as requires consultation of these codes
in order for the full desirable requirements to be evident.
(3) Reviewing codes already prepared, determining the advisability of bring­
ing them up to date and setting the procedure in motion for such codes as seem
to need such action.
(4) Stimulating the development of codes which are lacking in preparation.
(5) Considering code projects suggested, determining their importance and
which of them should be undertaken first, if at all.
N ote.—In (3), (4), and (5), attention might as well be given to codes in the
order of their importance, devoting effort first to such as affect a wider range
of industrial interests.
It is also possibly an open question whether it would not be desirable to
have the safety code correlating committee or a subcommittee of it regularly
give a general revision of the form and subject matter of safety codes referred
to the committee, not in the rOle of an intermediary approving body but in order
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and in really correlating them. All formulation and promotion work in connee
tion with the codes should be directed to three ends: (1) Direct use by
industry; (2) use in insurance schedules and by insurance inspectors in advice
to industry; (3) as a basis for regulation rather than legislation.
Past experience has indicated also the advisability of a review of subject mat­
ter in order that attention may be called in an advisory way to inconsistencies
or other matters which would seem to require further consideration. It would,
of course, be improper for the safety code correlating committee to arrogate
to itself the power to approve a code, but a careful review of a code followed
by a merely advisory suggestion would not seem to be out of place.
In order to carry out the above program, it would seem advisable to consider
dividing the work between several committees, each of which would devote its
earnest attention to one or more of the several divisions of the program.
The executive committee should, of course, continue in general direction of
the safety code work and act for the safety code correlating committee ad
interim. In addition to its present functions, it might take on that of stimulat­
ing the development of codes which are lagging in preparation, giving attention
to these in the order of their importance and devoting first attention to such
as affect a wider range of industrial interests. Under the new American
Standards Association procedure, this committee will have the power of sending
standards to letter ballot of the standards council and of eventually taking
final action on the approval of personnel.
A promotion subcommittee might well be appointed to function more or less
independently, reporting its results from time to time to the safety code cor­
relating committee. Its functions would be those quoted on the attached
excerpt from SC 53, dated February 11, 1929, and also furthering the promotion
of the code provisions in certain other ways which may seem desirable.
A subcommittee on scope also seems desirable. This committee should be
small and composed of experienced men including in its personnel perhaps an
all-around industrial safety man, an insurance man, a State man, and a man
from the Federal Government. This committee might well review codes already
prepared, and advise as to the desirability of bringing them up to date. It
could also consider code projects suggested, analyzing conditions and the rela­
tions of the proposed codes to other codes. In addition, it could correlate the
codes for publication in such a way as will make each of them more readily
useful without duplicating in any one provisions appearing in others. This
would mean examining drafts of codes in order to take a strong advisory hand
in making the codes more effective instruments and in really correlating them.
This subcommittee should have complete freedom of contact, but in general
should report through the executive committee or through the safety code cor­
relating committee itself.
Some of these divisions, if adequate attention is to be given to them, would
appear necessarily to involve in detail more time than can well be given them
by a subcommittee and its chairman. The detailed work of following up the
agencies of promotion and seeing that they are supplied with proper material,
and that of corrrelating the codes, must necessarily be done by the staff of the
American Standards Association either as the job of one man or otherwise.
The plans for making use of agencies of promotion and the methods of corre­
lation can be determined by a committee or committees in charge of these
branches of the safety code correlating committee work, but it is doubtful
whether the members of a committee could be depended upon to attend to the
details involved in carrying these branches of work into practical effect.
Now that the American Standards Association has been organized as the
successor of the American Engineering Standards Committee, and there is a
prospect of more money being available for the work of the association, it occurs
to your chairman that the safety code correlating committee might well con­
sider the desirability of a program for the committee somewhat along the lines
suggested, and of submitting this program with the reasons therefor to the
directors of the American Standards Association with the request that the
development of safety codes on a more practical basis even than heretofore,
and the promotion of their use in the widest and most systematic way, be made
a recognized part of the work of the American Standards Association, and that
an appropriation be made which will equip the American Standards Association
secretariat with the necessary facilities in personnel and otherwise to give the
safety code correlating committee effective assistance in carrying out the work
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The more important features of a safety code program have already been or
are being attended to in an initial way, but this program can be of the utmost
practical value only when the codes come into general practical use, when the
codes are kept up to date, when their use is promoted intelligently and force­
fully, and when there is the most careful discrimination between both completed
codes and suggested code projects, so that development, revision, and promotion
will first be given to the projects which are of major importance to industry,
and only subsequently to those of relatively minor importance. The safety
codes developed under American Standards Association procedure are built
upon the soundest basis—a real consensus of opinion of all those having a
proper interest in them and able to make a worth-while contribution to them,
and it seems that too much effort can not be made to develop these codes in
the best possible manner, to correlate them so they will have potentialities of
the greatest usefulness, and to promote them so thoroughly that they will as
quickly as possible come into general use as a recognized and important part
of the industrial life of the country.
Conveyors and conveying machmery.—No meeting of the safety code for
conveyors and conveying machinery has been held since the last convention
of the Association of Governmental Labor offic'als on May 24, 1928.
Head and eye safety code.—In the new revision to extend the scope of the
head and eye safety code, it is intended to include protection afforded employees
by gas masks and respirators. In February, 1928, the scope of this work was
defined as follows in a communication forwarded to the sectional committee
on this safety code:
“ Project.—The mechanical protection of the head and eyes; optical protection
of eyes and skin from light and heat rays; protection from splashing metals
and liquids; and from the direct action of fumes and dust, including the type
of protection afforded by gas masks and respirators.”
This will cover all industrial operators or processes in which there is exposure
of employees to injury. It would include dangers from the inhalation of dust
fumes and gases and hazards arising from the use of industrial poisons. In
the preparation of this code, great difficulties will be experienced in approving
suitable types of respirators, where constant use by the employee is necessary.
In the 1928 report to the convention, types of employment to which it is proposed
to extend protection in this code were given at length. No action has been
taken by this committee since that time.
Elevator safety code.—Progress is being made with the preparation of this
safety code. A tentative draft of a handbook for elevator inspectors is receiving
attention. This provides a plan for routine inspection in elevators and their
use. It deals with the specific problems in the operation of elevators. Doorclosing mechanism; car control; emergency release; point of circuit inclosure
on door; car gates, including guides and hangers; physical condition of car
gate contacts; clearances between car and landings and threshold; floor cover­
ing and car inclosure; lighting fixtures and switches; hand-operating ropes;
action of brakes and machinery accelerator; counterweights, cable fastenings,
and rail supports are included in the inspection program. Most valuable in
this tentative handbook is the instruction given to elevator inspectors. Prin­
ciples of safety are defined and emphasized. Careful inspection of all elevator
machinery is given a place in a systematic program. Plan of instruction to
make safety code known to operators is included. Thirty-seven pages of wellwritten material comprise this inspector’s handbook.
Constructive accident prevention work must necessarily rest upon the educa­
tion of workman and employer in fundamental knowledge of hazards and
exposures incidental to modern production.
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Under State authority, this can only be accomplished through adequate
enforcement of provisions in law which deal effectively with the operating
dangers.
Blending their efforts in conserving health and property, workmen and
employers will succeed only when requirements are known and understood.
Confusing rules and regulations, already reaching into the thousands of these
requirements, are not always fully grasped by the forces in industry, and the
opinion is expressed by eminent authorities on this work that simplification
of existing legislation is necessary.
The work of the safety code correlating committee has this condition to deal
with, and the progress made on the elevator safety code committee indicates
clearly the tendency to recognize these facts.

The foregoing reports of the various code committees were ac­
cepted and made a matter of record by the convention.
[Meeting adjourned.]




WEDNESDAY, JUNE 5—AFTERNOON SESSION
Maud Swett, President, A. G. O. I., Presiding

BUSINESS SESSION
Chairman S w e t t . We will take a few minutes to finish the busi­
ness session so as to clear the decks for the afternoon meeting.
REPORT OF COMMITTEE ON STATISTICS

Chairman S w e t t . Mr. Hall, of Virginia, chairman of the com­
mittee on statistics, is not present; but Mr. Baldwin, of the United
States Bureau of Labor Statistics, has something to report regarding
accident statistics.
Mr. B a ld w in . I am not a member of the committee on statistics,
but I have a matter concerning statistics that I should like to pre­
sent formally for the thought and consideration of the members of
this association.
As an official of the Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics, I am a
constant user of the statistics furnished by State bureaus of labor
and I find them very useful. I find them iacking, however, in com­
pleteness and in analysis, because of the fact that in many instances
they have not gone quite far enough to cover all the details that are
essential, and therefore their full usefulness is somewhat impaired.
While this applies to practically all kinds of statistics, I shall
refer only to one class of statistics, namely, the statistics of indus­
trial accidents.
At the present time a large proportion of the States are report­
ing quite satisfactorily the number of industrial accidents, but some
are not, although in some instances they do publish the compensable
accidents. While they make a record of each accident and record
quite fully the nature of the injury, also the cause of the injury, in
a large proportion of the cases, 1 believe, they fail to report the
cause of the accident. Note that I make a distinction between
the cause of the injury and the cause of the accident. To illus­
trate, a large proportion of the accidents as recorded are said
to be the result of slips and falls; probably one-half or 60 per cent
or more, perhaps of all accidents occurring, result from this cause.
In the reporting of an accident, it is recorded in this way—a man
slipped, fell, and broke his leg, for instance, and there the record
stops. The nature of the injury is the broken leg, the cause of
the injury is the slip and fall, but what caused him to slip and fall
is not reported. Whether it was the result of a wet walk way or a
greasy walk way, whether he stepped on a banana peel which some­
body had thrown on the walk way, or whether it was because he
was wearing a pair of shoes with the soles worn off and in conse­
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Now, a safety engineer needs all this information, and if it is not
given he must make a personal investigation of each case in order
to find out what warnings to issue to guard against these accidents
in the future. He does not know whether to caution the workers
against wearing improper shoes or to caution men and women
against throwing banana peels on the walk ways, or whether he shall
issue an order preventing the washing of walk ways during work
hours and leaving them wet and slippery.
I think the requirement should go one step further and specify that
the cause of an accident should be reported. The same thing is true
of accidents resulting from flying objects. We will say a man has
lost his eye by some flying object. What the safety engineer wants
to know is, not only what the flying object was but what caused the
object to fly which resulted in the accident.
We also have records of instances of accidental death caused by
people coming in contact with electric wiring and being electrocuted.
I remember noting one instance in which a man slipped and fell,
and upon investigation it was found that he threw out his hand to
protect himself from the fall; the walk way was poorly lighted; he
did not, and could not, see the electric wire, and he threw his hand on
it and he was electrocuted. The record as it was written, showed
that the man was electrocuted by coming in contact with a live wire.
The cause of the accident was due probably to the poor lighting of
the walk way and a wet and slippery surface which caused the man
to slip and he was unable to see the electric wire. The accident
might perhaps have been avoided if there had been better lighting.
I am not going to continue these illustrations further because I
think what I have said clearly indicates what I have in mind—that
in the reporting of accidents we should go one step farther than we
do and furnish the information necessary to guard against accidents
in the future.
General S w e e tse r . Is it not true that the question now is, What
caused the accident ? How would you have it recorded and for what
purpose ?
Mr. B a ld w in . S o that the safety engineer may know how to
issue orders to prevent accidents in the future.

General S w e e tse r. Does he not have that in his own State?
Mr. B a ld w in . In a good many instances, he does; but in a great
many cases, when the accident comes to the attention of the engineer,
he does not know what the cause of the accident was. We read that
the man slipped and fell, but the reason for his slipping and falling
is not given on the record card. I think in Massachusetts you do
show that, but in a great many places they do not. What I suggest
is that we go further and show what caused the man to slip and fall.
General S w e e tse r. We have that on our own records. It would be
almost impossible for us to tabulate that information. There are
dozens of falls, and we classify them as falls. We know what oc­
casioned those falls, but do not give every detail, because we would
not have time to elaborate all that.
Mr. B a ld w in . I have seen many records of accidents that simply
showed, as I have stated, the nature of the injury, that is, the injury
was caused by a slip and fall. The cause of the slipping or the




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falling is not given on the card at all. The safety engineer when he
looks into the case has to go back and find out what caused the
slipping and falling.
General S w e e tse r . If he has to do that work, it will simply be
adding that record to the card.
Mr. B a ld w in . That is exactly what I am suggesting.
Mr. B u r k e . My question is in regard to the safeguarding of gears
and the uniformity of the code, how we could cover the gearing of
machinery. To my mind, you can not get a uniform code, inasmuch
as machinery is not always made by a certain manufacturer or a
group of manufacturers. Often special machinery is made for their
own special use by small firms that are not classified as manufac­
turers. Again, machines will be useful for 10, 20, or 30 years,
and if we get a uniform code now that code would not cover
machines that might come on the market as rebuilt machines or
machines made over by a special user of machines. Perhaps if we
get a code we could have a supplement to the code with sketches,
which would help those to whom the code would be given and would
be a guide to them in the building and using of machinery. They
could use their own common sense in building these guards to suit
their machines which are already in use.
Mr. B a l l a n t y n e . Might I direct your attention to the fact that
this session of the convention is really given over to the question of
employment. While I would not want in any way to circumscribe
the discussion of the very important questions you have been con­
sidering this morning, yet I do feel that if I said probably a word
or two you might be satisfied to adjourn the subject if not to close it.
It is my opinion, based upon experience, that everything possible
should be done to encourage the development of safety codes along
the diversified lines which we find in industry; but I think to
attempt to have in any State or Province too rigid an application
to industrial safety problems of such codes or rules is a mistake;
in other words, the vital factor in making effective labor law ad­
ministration must always remain with the official himself. I do
not think there can be any compromise at all in that regard; no
matter how well conceived or how well formulated any code may
be, in the last analysis, it can never take the place of the official
himself. What it should do is to guide the officials in the exercise
of their official prerogatives, whatever those prerogatives may be,
and if we can not get it into the minds of our officials that, in the
first instance, they are administering the law that has been pre­
scribed for them by the legislatures of their respective States or
Provinces; that their powers of administration are limited by the
requirements of the statute; that the problems they have to meet
and to overcome, if possible, in the workshops and industries gen­
erally, call for the common-sense application of their powers under
the law and the guidance derived from the codes received from time
to time. To my mind it would be a very great mistake indeed, no
matter how advanced any safety code would be, to give it statutory
authority, in other words, make the code the law. I do not think
that any code should be made the law of any State or Province, as
I said before; and as Doctor Patton said this morning, aim to make




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it uniformly applicable. What we should aim at is a better under­
standing of the questions we have to meet, and a common-sense
application of laws and principles.
REPORT OF COMMITTEE ON CALENDAR

Mr. S t e w a r t . I am submitting a resolution, which I will ask this
convention to indorse. The resolution probably can be made to
cover the whole report. I will submit the material that goes with
the resolution for the record without reading it.
Be it resolved, That this association believes that the United States should
be represented at that conference, and while not committing ourselves to any
specific plan of calendar reform as to its details we are in favor of such
adjustment of the present calendar as will give us an equal number of days
in each month of the year.

I
may add that a congressional resolution requesting the Presi­
dent of the United States to appoint a delegate to the Geneva con­
ference was introduced, and it has been favorably reported upon
by the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
Chairman S w e t t . Y ou simply wish to have it referred now to the
resolutions committee?
Mr. S t e w a r t . Yes.
Chairman S w e t t . Mr. Ballantyne, yours was the other committee
to report, the committee on the constitution.
Mr. B a l l a n t y n e . I ask that a report of progress be received, and
we will report later on.
COMMITTEES APPOINTED

President Swett appointed the following on the standing com­
mittees for 1929:
Committee on the Constitution.—James H. H. Ballantyne, of On­
tario, chairman; Dr. Eugene B. Patton, of New York; W. A. Rooksbery, of Arkansas.
Committee on Resolutions,—John S. B. Davie, of New Hampshire,
chairman; Ethelbert Stewart, of Washington, D. C .; John Roach,
of New Jersey; Miss Mary Anderson, of Washington, D. C.; E.
Leroy Sweetser, of Massachusetts.
Committee on Officers' Reports.—Cyril Ainsworth, of Pennsyl­
vania, chairman; M. H. Alexander, of Colorado; Edward F. Seiller,
of Kentucky; Frank J. Plant, of Ontario; Arthur MacNamara,
of Manitoba.

EMPLOYMENT
James H. H. Ballantyne, Deputy Minister of Labor, Ontario, presiding.

Chairman B a l l a n t y n e . In order to be consistent I intend to take
up just as few seconds as possible in opening this session, vwhich is
devoted to the important subject of employment. Last night at
our dinner session we had two very able exponents speak on this
important question.
There is probably no phase of our industrial life which reflects
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system as that of employment. The session today is primarily
associated with the statistical features of our employment situation.
While the facts and figures bearing on employment or unemployment
may appear to be very cold and flat to those who are unemployed
or to those who do not get work or who conceive they ought to get
something from industry in the way of remuneration, jet we who
are engaged in the practical phases of this question are trying in some
way or other to make those engaged in industry realize that statistics
are vitally important in order that our perspective may be made
clearer, that our judgment may be strengthened, and that our
actions no matter what line they may follow will make for the great­
est possible happiness, comfort, and security of the greatest possible
number of those engaged industrially. 1 have, therefore, great
pleasure in asking Mr. Rigg, director of the Employment Service
of Canada, to deliver his address on “ Some facts and reflections
regarding employment and unemployment statistics.” We think
with a certain amount of reasonable pride that the Employment
Service of Canada is one of the very best on the North American
Continent and, we think, will compare very favorably with any
employment service that has been developed in continental Europe.
That is said without any exaggeration, but with pardonable pride
in the results that have already been achieved, and the results that
we hope to achieve in the years that are to come.
Some Facts and Reflections Regarding Employment and Unemployment
Statistics
By R. A. R igg, Director Employment Service, Department of Labor, Canada

There are few subjects which during recent years have provoked
so much discussion as that of unemployment, and probably no one
would care to challenge the assertion that no problem which has
succeeded in engaging the thought of interested authorities to such
an extent has been left more completely unsolved. Government
executives are besieged by requests from representatives of, and
sympathizers with, labor that something should be done to cure the
evil or at least to alleviate the suffering arising therefrom. No
legislative session, whether Federal or State or Provincial, is com­
plete that does not entertain a discussion of the subject. Of books
published and articles written and reports prepared by economists,
statisticians, and sociological experts there is no end. Conferences
constituted as the present one invariably devote attention to the
problem. Labor organizations have it continually before them.
Remembering, then, the widespread attention devoted to the ques­
tion, it is unnecessary to do more than remark that this present con­
tribution is advanced without expectation that it is going to settle
anything definitely and finally, but rather in the hope that it may
prove to be provocative of more discussion.
At least one definite accomplishment has been achieved during
this century as a consequence of the attention that has been directed
toward this problem. No well-informed intelligent person now
denies that a problem exists. To use the old form of disposing of
the matter by vehement denunciation of the unemployed as being




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idle, drunken wastrels and bums is to merit and receive contempt
for such opinion. To those of us who are in employment service
work, and to all who have undertaken any study of the unemployed
with any degree of impartiality, it is obvious that the overwhelming
majority of those who are out of work are keenly desirous of find­
ing it. Neither is one indulging in any exaggeration nor overstep­
ping the bounds of moderation in emphasizing that the ranks of
the degenerate charity mongers are largely recruited from among
those who would have been industrious and self-sustaining had
reasonably continuous employment been available for them. Idle­
ness has habit-forming qualities quite as pronounced as drug taking.
However, we may find comfort in the general appreciation of the
fact that it is now commonly conceded that a problem of unemploy­
ment does exist, and that there are reserves of labor beyond the
legitimate requirements of industry.
Although the primary purpose of this paper is to deal with sta­
tistical data relating to employment and unemployment, a few
observations regarding unemployment may be quite relevantly made.
Unemployment is a ravaging social disease, both endemic and
epidemic in its nature; and, because it is a social disease, it is the
duty of society for its own protection, if for no other reason, to re­
duce it to the lowest proportion possible. The insuring of continuous
employment at rates of remuneration that will provide a reasonable
standard of living to all who need to work in order to live is ad­
mittedly an Utopian dream. Yet, while conceding the improbability
of the complete stamping out of this disease, it is the duty of all to
aim at the preservation of the highest standard of economic and
social health that may be possible. Poverty and pauperism, and
their demoralizing concomitants, under famine conditions are un­
derstandable. When the means of life are inadequate to supply
the needs of all, some must inevitably suffer. Such conditions, how­
ever, do not obtain under our modern system of production and dis­
tribution ; the reverse is the fact. Shortage and need in the form of
demand are the very life of industry and the guarantee of pros­
perity so long as the commodities required are obtainable. Whether
the commodities needed are available to the public or not does not
depend upon their existence; they do exist. Indeed, the anomaly and
tragedy of our present system are to be found in the fact that the
most acute suffering from unmet need is coincident with an over­
stocked market. Trade depressions mean that, because warehouses
are choked with clothing, cold-storage plants and grain elevators
bursting with food, and coal banked up like black hills, men, women
and children must go unclothed, must exist half-starved upon some
form of charity, and must freeze in their hovels. In other words,
there is no question about there being enough to go around to meet
legitimate need.
Thus there are two facts that may be accepted as established be­
yond dispute: First, both in the United States and in Canada, there
is either seasonally or continuously a considerable number of per­
sons whose only legal means of obtaining an independent livelihood
is through the medium of their services being employed by others,
who are unable to find such employment; and second, the suffering
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of production adequately to supply a sufficiency of commodities to
meet legitimate human need. Wealth which makes Croesus look
comparatively poor is possessed by thousands, while unemployment
and the fear of it inflict their black misery upon millions.
Herein lies the challenge, that the efforts of labor applied to the
natural resources produce an abundance for all, but through inability
to find employment for the labor-power multitudes are divorced
from access to the things they need. This condition constitutes the
problem which confronts society on the North American Conti­
nent, and which is obviously troublesone to our legislators. During
the preelection session of the United States Congress last year keen
interest in this problem was exhibited. A somewhat popular attitude
was that it was useless to attempt to do anything until the extent and
volume of unemployment were precisely known. Some persons
claimed to possess this knowledge, at least approximately, although
the figures quoted by them varied by millions. Commissioner
Ethelbert Stewart, of the United States Bureau of Labor Sta­
tistics, compiled an estimate of the shrinkage in the volume of
employment in the United States from 1925 to 1928, and the figure so
derived was 1,874,050.
During the past two sessions of the Canadian Parliament the
subject of unemployment insurance has been before the Parlia­
mentary Committee on Industrial and International Relations. The
reports of this committee have expressed approval of the principle
of unemployment insurance, but the committee has urged tnat much
more complete statistical data should be available to provide a
factual basis upon which a scheme might be built. Thus we have in
both countries the common factors—the existence of unemployment,
practical admission that something should be done about it, and the
expressed need for statistical information that will in a comprehen­
sive, accurate, and up-to-date manner vividly reveal the size of the
problem.
Setting aside for the moment the question as to whether it is
imperative that such complete data should be available before any
practical steps are taken to cope with the unemployment problem, it
will perhaps be of interest to indicate what material is presently at
our disposal in Canada. I must leave to our friends from the
United States the task of stating what data are obtained in that
country. There are five principal sources from which data concern­
ing employment or unemployment in Canada are secured by the
Federal Government: (1) The decennial census; (2) the annual
industrial census; (3) current monthly returns from selected firms
showing numbers of persons in their employ; (4) current monthly
returns from trade-unions giving total memberships and numbers of
members unemployed; and (5) the records of the Employment
Service of Canada. Keeping in mind the demand made by authori­
ties for approximately complete, accurate, and up-to-date statistical
information as a preliminary to the adoption of practical measures
to cope with unemployment, what is the value o f any or all of the
data secured?
The last decennial census provided for ascertaining the following
information: (1) If a person, ordinarily an employee, were out of
Work June 1,1921; (2) number of weeks unemployed in the past 13




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months; (3) number of weeks unemployed during past 12 months
because of illness.
Without attempting to analyze closely the value of the informa­
tion thus acquired, it is clear that it fails to satisfy the demand. As
all who are in any degree familiar with the colossal task of dissect­
ing decennial census data know, it takes years to segregate and com­
pile the immense amount of material collected through that source.
Obviously the knowledge that on June 1, 1921, there were a given
number of persons unemployed in Canada can not be accepted as an
indication of the number out of work in January some years later.
Moreover, such a record is seriously open to the suspicion that it
would not be compiled wTith the rigid scrupulousness necessary to
indicate how many persons were involuntarily out of work. Would
the record not be liable to contain those who were idle on account
of strikes and lockouts, temporary shutdowns and lay-offs, and many
of those taking voluntary holidays, and so forth? Would the sus­
picion of such possible dilution escape those who demand specific
and reasonably accurate data? And the two columns which aim to
chronicle unemployment experience during the preceding 12 months
are open to even more severe criticism in that correctness of answer
depends upon accuracy of memory and the conscientious truthfulness
of the individual.
A comprehensive census of manufacturing industries in Canada
is taken annually. By this means data are secured indicating the
total numbers of salaried and wage-earning employees in this group,
by months. It has been found impracticable to secure complete
returns until some months after the expiration of the calendar year.
Thus the information relative to even the latest months of the
calendar year is usually not available until 12 months or so after
they have elapsed. Surveys of certain other industries, such as
mining and fishing, are also made annually, which yield figures
showing the number of workers employed therein on a given date.
These censuses, however, do not cover all industries, nor do they
attempt to sample all industries: they fail, therefore, to meet either
the requirement of being sufficiently up to date or comprehensive.
We now come to the third form of statistical tabulation bearing
on this subject, namely, that made in connection with the returns
furnished by establishments employing not less than 15 persons in
industries other than agriculture, fishing, and domestic service.
These returns are made monthly and show the number of persons
on the pay rolls of the reporting firms as at the end of each month.
The chart1 shows the plotting of the curve of employment by the
reporting firms from December, 1921, to March, 1929, reduced to
index figures. The original base figure of 100 represented the
numbers reported as employed in January, 1920, one of the first
months of collection, but recently the average for the year 1926 was
adopted as the base (100) and the previous figures were adjusted
thereto. Although it is perhaps somewhat of an irrelevant interpo­
lation, it is interesting to note in passing that the index numbers
pertaining to manufacturing industries exclusively have declined
during the past six years in the United States. According to the
Monthly Labor Review the index numbers reflecting the trend of
1 The charts referred to in this paper were wall charts exhibited by the speaker.—




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1employment in representative manufacturing industries in the
United States showed an average of 108.8 for the year 1923, the
first year for which these figures were regularly published, and of
93.8 for 1928. On the other hand, in Canada the averages of the
index numbers in manufacturing industries for the respective years
were 96.6 and 110.1, that is to say, there was an increase of 13.5
points in the Canadian figures simultaneously with a decline of 15
points in the United States figures. It might be added that both
the United States and Canadian figures have as their base (i. e. 100)
the average for the year 1926, and they are therefore quite com­
parable. In these employment indexes we have data that are up
to date, and we may assume, reasonably accurate, but not covering
the field comprehensively.
The fourth quarry from which we hew material is limited to the
trade-union area. There are in Canada some 2,600 trade-union
branches or locals, comprising approximately 290,000 members. The
latest monthly returns, giving the totals of local memberships and
the numbers of those unemployed due to economic causes, were re­
ceived from 1,727 local unions, representing 194,890 members.
Although it is impossible to exclude the element of error in the
reporting, there is good reason to believe that these returns, which
include two-thirds of the organized workers in Canada, are entitled
to be treated as sufficiently reliable for practical purposes. The chart
exhibited tells the story of the record on a percentage basis during
the period from December, 1921, to March, 1929.
Since these statistics are limited to the trade-union field, which
in a very large measure is representative of the skilled and semi­
skilled workers, and as it is highly probable that the percentage of
unemployment among unskilled workers is materially greater than
that of the semiskilled or skilled, they also, like the employers’ pay­
roll figures, fail to meet the test of comprehensiveness. That they
are regarded in trade-union circles as possessing considerable value,
however, is evidenced by the fact that the American Federation of
Labor recently organized a statistical department for the express
purpose of collecting and tabulating similar data in the United
States. In passing, it may be interesting to mention that the average
percentage of unemployment among trade-unionists in the United
States during the year 1928, as shown in the published tabulations
of the American Federation of Labor, is 13.1, while that for Canada
during the same period is 4.5.
Two of the three wall charts positively identify unemployment.
The trade-union chart shows that for the period covered the percent­
age of unemployment among the unions reporting has varied from
2 per cent to 15.1 per cent, the average for the seven and a quarter
years being 5.8 per cent. Assuming that the percentage of unem­
ployment among the unions failing to report was the same as that
of the reporting unions, in view of the fact that 67 per cent of the
union membership is covered, there were on the average approxi­
mately 16,800 trade-unionists unable to find work. That much in­
formation is tolerably well established.
The fifth source lies in the record of performance of the Employ­
ment Service of Canada, the third wall chart setting forth the story
of applications, vacancies, and placements. A glance at this record
chart is sufficient to demonstrate the general existence of a substan­




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tial army of unemployed persons. In interpreting the significance
of this chart, it is necessary that due weight be given to the fact that
the Employment Service of Canada enjoys no monopoly of employ­
ment work. Many firms hire their own employees, and seldom, if
ever, place their orders with the Government Service. Many work­
ers depend on their own efforts or those of friends to find employ­
ment, and do not register with our offices. Many labor organizations
provide employment office facilities for their members, and we still
have some private agencies in Canada, including some 23 of the
licensed, fee-charging variety. Since we are unable to determine
what percentage of the total employment business in Canada is repre­
sented by the employment-service records, it is impossible for us
to make the same deduction concerning all the workers of Canada
that we have been able to in the case of the organized section of them.
However, some definite facts stand out boldy. Chief among
these for our present purpose is the lightning-like stroke showing
the relationship of the application or registration curve to those
of vacancies and placements. This comparison indicates that the
demand for and supply of labor practically match each other about
September of each year, that is during the harvest period. It
further emphasizes that the reduction of the excess of registered ap­
plicants over the opportunities for employment is by no means wholly
accounted for by the number of placements made by the employ­
ment-service offices, and a considerable percentage of those register­
ing for employment find work through some other means.
You are sure to wonder at the skyrocketing phenomenon exhibited
by the registration curve at the beginning of 1922, and te require
an explanation as to why at that time applications should bear to
vacancies the relationship of almost two to one. The answer is
that on account of the distressful conditions existing in Canada due
to economic want, many of the governments and municipalities of
Canada provided emergency relief for those who were in need and
for whom the employment-service offices certified there was no work.
We could dazzle you with statistical demonstration of the romantic
progress which Canada is enjoying, but you may refrain from the use
of smoked glasses as we shall only turn on the glare for a moment.
Our friends from the United States know how bounteously blessed
with prosperity their country is. We Canadians hope that your
prosperity will continue to increase. The business record of Canada
for the past few years has been one of consistently rapid develop­
ment. The following figures, which constitute a comparison of in­
dexes of various economic activities between the United States and
Canada for the period 1926 to 1928, will provide ample demonstra­
tion of this fact:
COMPARISON OF VARIOUS ECONOMIC ACTIVITIES IN CANADA AND IN THE
UNITED STATES
1

Economic activity

Index of industrial production___
Employment in manufacturing
industries__________________
Steel production...........................
Construction contracts....... ........




United Canada
States
Per cent Per cent

+2.0

+12

-6 .2
+6.0
+5.0

+12
+58
+25

Economic activity

United Canada
States
Per cent Per cent

Railway operating revenue.......... -4 .0
Car loadings................................. -3 .0
Foreign trade_____
____
—.2
Hydroelectric power generated__ +19.0
Petroleum consumption________ +16.0

+14
+17
+13
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Consult once more the employers’ return chart, and, bearing in
mind the staggering increase of production per worker as a result
of the ever-increasing efficiency of the machine, note the ascension
of the curve of employment from the index figure of 78.8 on Janu­
ary 1, 1922, to 109.1 on January 1, 1929. What more eloquent testi­
mony of progress could be desired?
Lest we lose our sense of proportion in the enthusiasm created
by this picture, let us turn again to the trade-union and the
employment-service charts. The space between the curve of tradeunion employment and the 100 line, and the wide distances that for
a considerable portion of each year separate curves of vacancies
and registrations as shown on the employment-service chart, em­
phasize the existence of our problem. Here they are only colored
lines, projected on a frame. In reality, they represent the degrada­
tion, poverty, fear, heartbreak, and misery of thousands of human
beings. The paeans of prosperity strike upon the ears of these vic­
tims as the dirges of despair. It is not within the sphere of the
present opportunity to attempt to discuss the solution of this prob­
lem. If anything in the nature of inspiration is responsible for
this modest contribution, that inspiration has its source in the very
generally expressed dogma that no solution, even in part, is possible
until the exact extent and volume of unemployment is known. The
time is overdue when this attitude should be challenged and the
mind of society disabused of the illusion. The main purpose of this
paper is to hazard the opinion that it is unnecessary to possess com­
plete and accurate statistics as to the volume of unemployment in
order to begin to grapple with it. To know down to the very last
one the number of the unemployed would be academically interest­
ing, but it is difficult to see how it would assist in the solution of the
problem.
Perhaps the most common method of avoiding the issue, adopted
by many whose efforts should be directed toward the elimination of
this evil, is, first, to classify unemployment as a disease, and then
having done so, adroitly to proceed to prepare an avenue of escape
from a troublesome predicament by insisting that the first act of a
physician is to diagnose the disease. This they assure us is the
scientific preliminary that precedes the application of the remedy.
They construe the diagnosis of this malady as involving the dis­
covery of the number of persons affected by it.
To what degree is this analogy correct? When a patient calls in
a doctor does the doctor postpone action until he has ascertained how
many others are suffering from the same disease ? If an epidemic of
black influenza afflicted this continent would the medical fraternity
insist that their first duty was to take a census for the purpose of
determining how many victims it had claimed? Answers to these
questions are unnecessary.
It is respectfully submitted that the effects of unemployment upon
the individual are quite as baneful, irrespective of whether the num­
ber out of work is 2,000, 200,000, or 2,000,000. In other words, the
error is all too commonly made of confusing the disease with its
extent. The problem is not one of diagnosis or primarily of know­
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of applying the cure should be discovered. And it can not be too
emphatically stated that unemployment insurance or maintenance
during periods of unemployment, while these may perhaps be de­
sirable temporary palliatives, are after all only palliatives. Unem­
ployment insurance applicable to all industries would yield unchallengable statistical evidence as to the extent and volume of
involuntary idleness, but the only cure for unemployment is work.
Nothing else will insure the highest standard of social healthfulness
and well-being. Herein lies the crux of the whole matter. How
shall employment be provided? Efforts directed toward the accom­
plishment of this purpose are infinitely more likely to produce
worth-while practical results than engaging in academic or acri­
monious discussion as to the exact number of the unemployed. Inci­
dentally, it is an excellent way to discover how many are unemployed.
Within the lifetime of all who are gathered here and within the
memory of a considerable percentage of us, interested parties quar­
reled about the number of industrial accidents. Those who favored
workmen’s compensation urged that there were a great many more
industrial accidents than their opponents would admit. Both were
wrong in their estimates. The administration of workmen’s com­
pensation acts has demonstrated that there are many more accidents
occurring in industry than the wildest imaginings of compensation
advocates could conceive. And had the enactment of legislation
been delayed until the extent of the problem was known, our statutes
would to-day be barren of workmen’s compensation acts.
When Commissioner Ethelbert Stewart appeared last January as
a witness before the United States Senate Committee dealing with
unemployment, and was giving testimony regarding a census of the
unemployed, the chairman of the committee asked, “ What would
we do with the information when we have it?” Would it have been
impertinent for Mr. Stewart to have answered by inquiring, “ What
do you do with the information you already possess?” I f it is sin­
cerely desired to do something about it, is there not sufficient reason
to begin now ?
With the enormous resources available on this North American
continent, suffering as a consequence of inability to find work is a
social disgrace; but there are evidences to be found in the side­
stepping of this problem by many which suggest that the priests
and Levites are as numerous to-day, and the good Samaritans are
as rare, as they were 2,000 years ago. Possessing the material means
and being evidently endowed with the genius for invention and
organization, so far as the interests of industry, commerce, and
finance are concerned, it is inconceivable that the problem of em­
ployment should remain insoluble, unless we are to confess ourselves
bankrupt of capacity to apply to this question the same effective
ability which is apparent in other directions. If anything in the
nature of real progress is to be made in stamping out the evil of
unemployment, which is more disastrous to human well-being and
a much graver menace to our civilization than physical disease, it
will be necessary to obey the injunction of Thomas Carlyle “ do the
duty that lies nearest to thee: the second duty will already have
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Chairman B a l l a n t y n e . In order to conserve our time as much
as possible, I propose before throwing the papers open for discus­
sion to request Mr. Hudson to read his paper on “A Decade of
Public Employment Work in Ontario.”
A Decade of Public Employment Work in Ontario
By H. C. H udson, General Superintendent Ontario Government Offices,
Employment Service of Canada

To condense into the limited time at my disposal the activities of
the Ontario Government Offices of the Employment Service of
Canada extending over a period of 10 years is no small task. Ac­
cordingly, it will be possible only to touch upon the high lights in
a very interesting decade, 1919 to 1929.
Definite pictures make a more clean-cut impression upon the mind
than general statements, and I am, therefore, going to ask you to
cast your thoughts backward to the years of the Great War and to
picture, first, a munition plant engaged night and day, seven days
a week, in the manufacture of shell cases. This was m the fall of
1916 when every morning saw the gates of all the munition plants
besieged by hundreds of women, actuated by financial as well as
patriotic motives, all anxious to obtain the privilege of operating a
lathe or some other munition-manufacturing machine.
Under such circumstances, the need for some centralized employ­
ment office became' imperative, and on November 24, 1916, the
women’s department of the Toronto Employment Bureau was
opened, followed 10 days later by the opening of a section for men.
The Ontario Government employment bureaus accordingly com­
menced operations as a direct result of war-time conditions. The
influence of the report of a commission on unemployment appointed
by the same Government two years previously also influenced the
opening of the offices.
The scene of the next picture is laid on the athletic grounds of the
town of Dundas, eight months after the opening of the first offices.
A group of proud young high-school boys is gathered around a
roaring camp fire while a representative of the Ontario Government
is pinning on their sweater-coats badges indicating the completion
of their first month’s work as “ Soldiers of the Soil,” enlisted in the
campaign for greater food production.
The campaign was later extended to include men, who for one
reason or another could not join the active militia, and a still later
development was the establishment of camps of young women who
comprised a veritable “ land army,” actively cooperating with the
farmers of the Province in raising the maximum amount of
foodstuffs for the Allies.
An interesting experiment was tried, first, in connection with the
cultivation of sugar beets, and later in the flax-growing districts
where camps of boys recruited from the industrial schools con­
tributed their part to the work. In spite of the fact that these
boys all had police-court records, they responded to the patriotic
appeal which was made to them, and not one attempted to escape
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The employment bureaus were kept busily engaged in recruiting
the labor supply for the munition plants and the farms, and at the
time of the conclusion of hostilities, offices were in operation in 11
centers in the Province. The records for the 12 months ending Octo­
ber 31, 1919, show 44,786 men and women referred to positions by
all the offices. This number represents approximately one-quarter of
the number placed last year.
The year 1918 saw an extension of the usefulness of the service
when the Federal Government passed the employment offices’ coordi­
nation act under which, while each Province retained complete auton­
omy over its own service, the Dominion Government provided uni­
form methods of recording and bore a considerable share of operat­
ing all the offices in Canada. The cooperation between the different
Provinces and the Dominion Government has been one of the major
factors in the success achieved by the service.
The following, year, 1919, saw flags flying, banners waving, and
bands playing as Ontario’s heroes, 100,000 strong, returned from
overseas. It was one thing for a man to march down Yonge Street
amid the cheers of the citizens of Toronto, and quite another thing
for him to reestablish himself in a job. In order to assist him to the
fullest possible extent, the employment service was rapidly expanded
in cooperation with the department of soldiers’ civil reestablishment
until there were in all, 35 offices in the Province.
Industrial activity was great in this Province, as elsewhere through­
out the world, in 1920; but I trust that it will never again be my
misfortune to see a repetition of the years 1921 and 1922, when the
employment index fell in January, 1922, to 83.4, as compared with
the base of 100 in 1920. Ex-service men and civilians alike had the
greatest difficulty in securing and holding jobs, and Federal, Provin­
cial and municipal authorities found it necessary to combine their
efforts to provide emergency relief work, the cost of which was
shared— and rightly so—by the country as a whole.
Brighter months followed, however, as the employment pendulum
swung in the opposite direction, reaching a high point in 1923, fol­
lowed, however, by another bad year in 1924. Consistently since
1925, each year has seen an improvement over the previous 12
months; and June 1,1929, finds Ontario in the best position from an
employment standpoint which it has experienced since employment
records were first commenced.
Having disposed of the historical aspects of the service, let us sur­
vey our present position. We have in Ontario 26 public employment
offices, located in the principal industrial centers, and comprising
the largest single provincial unit in the Employment Service of
Canada. Our friends from the United States may be surprised to
learn that it takes 33 hours’ continuous traveling on a fast train to
reach Fort William from Ottawa—the extreme eastern and western
limits of our chain of offices.
My first inspection trip out of town took me less than 10 miles
from the city hall. Now it is necessary for me to travel, on the
average, 1,000 miles each month visiting the various centers where
offices are located. I fully expect that it will not be long before many
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With such tremendous distances between the various offices, the
first essential of successful operation was the development of an
employment clearance system, and it is a matter of great satisfac­
tion to me that we are now organized in such a way that informa­
tion regarding employment opportunities is made available by the
use of the mail, telephone, and telegraph services in all the offices
with absolute minimum of delay. Vacancies which can not be filled
locally are reported to the office of the general superintendent, and
from there clearance cards are distributed to all the offices, giving
full particulars regarding the jobs. A superintendent who has an ap­
plicant or applicants for any of the vacancies loses no time in com­
municating direct with the office where the job is located and the
superintendent of that office can select the required help on the
basis of the information which he has received from one or more
of the offices. This obviates the necessity for the costly and unneces­
sary traveling of workers from place to place following up rumors
of possible employment at distant points, and accordingly repre­
sents one of the greatest achievements of the service.
The cooperation in existence between the Provinces and the Fed­
eral Government has enabled us to extend the clearance system
literally from coast to coast, a specific example being seen in the
recent success of the Hamilton Employment Office in securing from
Vancouver, B. C., a roll turner required by the local steel plant.
Applications for the vacancy were also received from Regina and
Halifax, in the mid-west and on the east coast, but the Vancouver
man was considered by the employer to possess the exact qualifica­
tions required and consequently secured the job.
Workers traveling to jobs obtained through the employment
service and situated more than 117 miles from the office where they
originally registered, are given the benefit of reduced transportation
rates, granted by the great transportation systems included in the
Canadian Passenger Association.
If there is one lesson which we have learned, it is the necessity
of sending to a job the exact type of man or woman required by the
employer. The more information the employer gives us the better
chance we have of filling his or her requirements, and if the mis­
tress of any establishment does not want a household worker who
wears glasses— as actually happened in one of the cities of the Prov­
ince—we keep this fact in mind in making the selection of a worker.
The appeal is therefore not, primarily, the need of the man for
the job but the ability of the man to fill the job; and while this policy
may appear, at first glance, to lack the human touch, actually we
find that satisfying the employers’ requirements means more busi­
ness, and a greater volume of business means an opportunity to
place the unfit or disabled person as well as the better qualified type
of worker.
One man lacking the qualifications desired by the employer, if sent
to a job, may mean that we receive no further orders from the em­
ployer or firm. We must always keep in mind that the employment
service unlike most other departments of government, has no mo­
nopoly of its field.
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The newspapers, for instance, carry classified advertisements for
help; yet, I am glad to say that we have had the whole-hearted sup­
port, through the news and editorial columns, of practically every
daily paper in the Province and, stranger still, were it politic to do
so, I could tell you the names of at least three newspapers who have
applied to us for help for their own establishments. We appreciate
the support of the press; and the human interest stories—not the sob
stories—which appear from time to time in connection with the work
of our various offices do a great deal to offset certain popular miscon­
ceptions regarding the service.
Among these misconceptions is the belief that the employment
service places only unskilled workers, whereas, the actual facts of the
case are that employers now call upon us for men and women possess­
ing every imaginable degree of skill, training, and experience. The
list of separate occupations filed in the Toronto office, for instance,
within the past few months totals 267 and includes X-ray techni­
cians, die makers, tool makers, organ tuners, civil engineers, plant lay­
out engineers, municipal engineers, electrical draftsmen, secretaries,
assistant sales managers, engineering draftsmen, purchasing agents,
detectives, platinum art jewelers, first-aid men, and numerous others.
In order to meet the employers’ needs we have found it necessary
to divide our work into departments which include out-of-town
workers, professional and business, metal trades, hotel and institu­
tional help, juveniles, farm, handicapped, etc.
I fully realize how uninteresting statistics may be when presented
in a talk of this kind, so I will be content in reducing the number to
the absolute minimum and tell you that during the 12 months ending
October 31, 1928, the 26 Ontario Government offices of the Employ­
ment Service of Canada registered 212,422 applications for work;
received 175,870 orders from employers; and placed in employment
153,783 men and women. Incidentally, the statistics gathered
throughout the Dominion, when considered along with other related
statistical material, provide a reliable picture of employment con­
ditions which is of very considerable value not only to the Govern­
ments concerned but also to industrial employers and business men
generally.
Charts and statistics are interesting to the student of business and
industrial conditions, but the thing that really counts in employment
work is the individual employer and the individual applicant. Every
transaction narrows down to the basis of personal contact with indi­
viduals; and the measure of our success is, to a very large extent,
the degree to which we develop the intangible but nevertheless real
feeling of confidence in our sincerity. Call it the human touch or
what you will, the fact remains that success depends upon a genuine
appreciation of the problems of the men and women who use our
offices, combined with an earnest desire to put ourselves in their
position and, by so doing, endeavor to serve their best interests.
Bureaucracy has no place in an employment bureau.
An interesting development of the service has been the extent to
which it has become the center for inquiries relating to employment
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has received numerous letters from the United States and Great
Britain from men and women interested in the possibility of se­
curing work in this Province.
It is exactly 10 years since I was appointed to my present posi­
tion as superintendent of the Ontario offices. The outstanding
change in employment conditions since that time has been the trend
toward large-scale production and the adoption of the policy of never
letting a man do what a machine can do better or quicker. Coinci­
dent with this policy is the aim of employing as few high-priced
workers as possible and the tendency of never giving one man work
which another man of less ability can do equally well. The drift
toward large-scale production is shown in the experience of one
plant (located in the United States) which builds 7,200 automobile
frames every day with a total working force of 187 men.
A very prominent American manufacturer is quoted as stating
that industry should be so organized that one trained man could
direct the efforts of 5,000 unskilled and semiskilled workmen.
Another noteworthy tendency of the times which has a direct bear­
ing on employment is the centralization of the distribution of vari­
ous commodities, such as food and clothing, for instance. A man who
has his own grocery store requires at least an elementary knowledge
of the principles of business—purchasing, finance, and sales. A man
in charge of the local unit in a chain of stores, for instance, re­
quires no such detailed knowledge. His financing and purchasing
are done through the central office and even his selling has been
reduced to an absolute minimum with the introduction of self-service
methods. His remuneration is naturally affected and we find in him
one more addition to the ranks of the wage earner as compared
with the actual manager of a business.
That is the dark side of the picture; the bright side is that every
industry which raises our standards of living and which trans­
forms into necessities articles formerly considered as luxuries pro­
vides new sources of employment to compensate for the loss of the
old ones.
There are pessimistically inclined persons who believe that the
excellent educational facilities at present in existence are creating
the possibility of an overeducated populace, turning out more
trained minds than business and industry can use. A prominent
writer in the United States examining the situation claims that there
are, in that country, only 176,200 jobs where high-grade mentality
is required. On the basis of Canada’s population, this would mean
less than 20,000 jobs in this country requiring men and women
trained in business and in the professions. If these figures were
accurate and could be applied to the Dominion, a serious situation
would indeed be upon us; but I, however, am convinced that the
growth and development which will be seen in Canada in the next
20 years will provide adequate opportunities for all the graduates
of our high schools, universities, and business colleges.
It is difficult even for those of us who live in the southern portion
of Ontario to appreciate the extent to which employment opportu­
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opment of our natural resources, including particularly the water
power and the mines.
Our difficulty is not the surplus of trained men and women. If
we have any problem at all of this nature, it is the partially trained
clerical worker whose employment horizon is limited by a $30-aweek outlook on life. As an example of this, one of the border
cities recently advertised throughout the entire Province for an
industrial commissioner at a salary of $4,000 per annum. Only 16
applications for the position were received; whereas, I will guarantee
that if you place an advertisement in to-night’s paper for a book­
keeper at $25 a week, you will receive considerably over 100 replies
from Toronto alone.
A review of our work such as I am making to-day would be
incomplete without some reference to the splendid staff of workers
who have all contributed their part to the upbuilding of the service.
At the present time we have just over 100 men and women in our
26 offices, and their interest and loyalty have contributed largely to
whatever measure of success we have achieved. Employment office
work is not simple; it is difficult. While I do not need to elaborate
upon the difficulties before an audience such as this one, I do wish
to place on record my belief that few persons who are not actively
engaged in this type of work fully appreciate the judgment, the
patience, the tact, and the genuine hard work attached to the suc­
cessful operation of even the smallest of the local offices.
It is hardly necessary to state, also, that the service could not
have progressed to its present position had it not been for the interest
and support of the three governments which have been in power
since its inauguration. The present minister of labor and the deputy
minister always endeavor to carry out any reasonable recommenda­
tion having as its objective the best interests of the service as a whole.
A character in one of Frank L. Packard’s books, referring to the
construction engineer, says:
A man does something— he builds. I’m going to be a builder— a builder of
bridges and roads and things like that. I want to do something some day—
something that will be worth while. That’s why I ’m going to be an engineer;
because, all over the world from the beginning, the engineers have led the way
and— and they’ve left something behind them. I think that’s the b’ggest thing
they can say of any man when he dies— that he is a builder, that he left some­
thing behind him. I’d like to have them say that about me.

We, in the employment service, have not built anything as tangible
as a bridge, but we are builders nevertheless; and I sincerely trust
that upon the superstructure which we have helped to create will
some day be erected an organization, second to none in the world,
for serving all classes in the community by bringing together, with
the minimum of delay, the jobless man and the manless job.
In conclusion, may I express the hope that all of us who are con­
nected in any way with public employment work, either in Canada
or in the United States, will keep constantly in mind the necessity
for continued effort, realizing that, as a great British statesman said
during the war, “ We must go on or go under,” for if the public
employment service is going to survive—as I am sure it will—it will
be only as a result of continued, earnest, intelligent, and broadvisioned effort on the part of all of us.




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DISCUSSION

Chairman B a l l a n t y n e . Mr. Hudson in the course of his remarks
referred to the personal satisfaction which men and women feel in
recognition of certain achievements that are made during their life­
time. If I may crave your indulgence for a few minutes, it is with
the object of providing an opportunity for some of our delegates to
show their appreciation of a record of achievement that can be
justifiably placed to the credit of one of our number. The way of
the world oftentimes is to proclaim our achievements when we go to
the land from which there is no return; it is more pleasant, if we can
find time to do so, to express in a tangible way what our feelings
are. I am going to ask Mr. Rigg, director of the employment serv­
ice of Canaaa, to make my remarks a little more explicit.
[At this point Mr. Rigg requested Mr. Hudson to come forward
and presented him with a box containing a gift. Mr. Hudson made
suitable reply.]
Chairman B a l l a n t y n e . We will now proceed with the discussion.
Mr. Davie is noted on the program to introduce the discussion.
Mr. D a v ie . After hearing the very able paper delivered by Mr.
Rigg, I have come to the conclusion that he has left very little to
discuss; nevertheless, I feel that the Dominion of Canada as a whole
and Ontario in particular, has led the United States in employment
work, just as the chairman stated at the opening of the meeting.
Probably one of the great secrets of their success is that they feel
that it is a real service that they are rendering and not the mere
filling of a little political job. In other words, I firmly believe that
there are three departments that should not be made political foot­
balls; namely, education, health, and labor. I feel that by keeping
in the service such men as I have had the privilege of meeting in
Canada, and in the United States, who represent these departments,
one of the great factors in the solving of these problems surely has
been found. This is evidenced by the thought that they have put
into the papers to which we have listened to-day.
Speaking of statistics—in the United States we have had quite
a lot of trouble securing data from the trade-unions. The prin­
cipal reason set forth is that as soon as we make the information
public it will be used by the employers against the workers. I think
there has been some ground for that objection. Nevertheless, we
have some good points brought out in Mr. Rigg’s paper.
In regard to the records of employment service—I would like
to know how they are going to get anything from the chronic appli­
cants—those who make it a practice of registering for employment
in every employment-service office in the Dominion of Canada. They
seem to have a chronic disease, How are you going to get anything
definite from them when compiling statistics? Does it mean 1,000
people out of work, or does it mean 1,000 people going to a number
of offices and applying for jobs, sometimes under an assumed name?
Another thing is the attitude of employers who refuse to hire men
and women after they arrive at the age of 45 years; and another—
which was not brought out in this particular paper—is the displace­




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ment of labor by labor-saving machinery, thereby creating a problem
of unemployment that the emploj'ment service must observe.
I think the members of this association will all agree with me
that we have had good reason for a number of years for urging that
the National Employment Service Association consolidate with the
Government labor officials; and after the great ability shown by
the representatives of the National Employment Service Association,
Mr. Rigg and Mr. Hudson, I hope that this association will extend
an invitation to these officials, so that we may keep in close touch
through them with one of the greatest problems that we, as labor
officials, can face.
There is one question which I would like to ask Mr. Hudson, be­
cause I feel that he can give us some valuable information upon it.
How do you work the railroads in getting your people out to jobs
that are far distant from the employment offices? That is a subject
I am particularly anxious to know something about. Also, what is
the best method of handling the physically handicapped ?
Miss J o h n s o n . I would like to ask Mr. Rigg if the Provincial
Government has any provision for private agencies, and if so, are
they required to give reports as to the number of the unemployed ?
Mr. R igg. I think Mr. Hudson can answer that better than I can.
I am not very well informed as to the process.
I may say that the licensing of fee-charging agencies exists in
Canada, but only in Ontario and Quebec. In those two Provinces
there are about 23 licensed fee-charging agencies. In 1914 in On­
tario alone there were over 100, or in the neighborhood of 100. Five
of the Provinces of Canada have outlawed the private fee-charging
agencies entirely—it being illegal for such an agency to exist in
them. Every effort is exerted to maintain a minimum number in
the two Provinces where they exist to-day. They come directly under
the supervision of the labor department of Ontario and under the
department of labor of the Province of Quebec. They are required
to file some sort of return in respect to the number of placements
they make. I think very generally the figures of applications, va­
cancies, and placements are identical. That I think covers the field
so far1as that question is concerned.
Mr. Davie wished to know something about the reduced railway
fares. I may say that the railways, from the inception of the Em­
ployment Service of Canada, have always granted to the employment
service officers the privilege of a reduced fare, which amounts to
about 75 per cent of the regular tariff rates. This reduced rate,
however, is only applicable to placements which are made where the
jobs to which the applicants are being referred are at a distance
in which the regular tariff rate would be $4 or more. You will be
interested in knowing that 1 out of every 10 of the placements
made by the Employment Service of Canada is made at such a dis­
tance tnat this rate is brought into use; that is, that they are sent
to distances of more than 116 miles.
The other day I saw some figures which have been compiled by the
Province of Manitoba, which would be approximately correct, show­
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ployed persons going to work at a distance to get work. As a definite
answer to Mr. Davie’s question, I can say that this has been brought
about by the presentation of the case on behalf of the unemployed
worker, the need that exists in Canda for a mobile force of labor
and the good will of the railways yielding to the pressure of such
presentation. It has now become automatic; it is renewed every six
months automatically, and we enjoy and very much appreciate the
benefit that is derived through that reduced rate.
Mr. Hudson can answer the remainder of Mr. Davie’s question,
which was addressed to him. Mr. Davie wanted to know what was
being done in the direction of placing handicapped men in employ­
ment.
Mr. H u d so n . The Provincial Government or the municipalities
can take action. In the city of Montreal—I am not quite sure that
it is the case to-day, but it was until recently—licenses have to be
secured from both the Provincial Government and the city.
Chairman B a l l a n t in e . Any further questions or discussion?
Mr. D a v ie . There were two more questions; one was, what are
you doing with the displacement of men and women over a certain
age, and those displaced by labor-saving machinery ?
Mr. H u d so n . I can answer that very briefly. Ontario is pro­
gressing. New opportunities are opening up in this country, which
are not probably opening up so fast in the United States as in the
years gone by. For instance, an entirely new industry—I am not
free to divulge the name of it—is about to commence in northern
Ontario, and that expansion in industry and the development of our
mines particularly will take care to a large extent of what would
otherwise be our surplus population.
It is more difficult to place a middle-aged man or woman dis­
placed by the installation of labor-saving machinery; but that has
not reached the stage of a problem in Ontario.
Mr. D a v ie . What about placement work for the handicapped?
Mr. H u d so n . Handicapped-placement work is largely central­
ized in the city of Toronto, by reason of the fact that hospital pro­
vision is available here, and because handicapped cases believe that
the large cities provide more opportunities for employment. We
have had to engage a staff of about nine workers, canvassers or
scouts, to go out looking for jobs for these men, not on the basis
of what they have lost but of what they have left. If a man has
lost his legs, we make only incidental reference to the loss of his
legs when we try to get a job for him. We do not sell anybody on
the basis of his handicap but on the basis of his efficiency. I know
time goes rapidly— 10 years slip around very quickly. We had the
case of a chemist in Toronto, who had to meet the public as part of
his duties. He became deaf as a result of war service, and he con­
tinued to become more and more deaf each year, until it was im­
possible for him to carry on his work. He became stone deaf. His
education seemed of no avail; he could not hear and would stand
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He registered with the employment service, and to make a long
story short, in a brief time we were able to link him up with an
establishment engaged in the manufacture of soap in which he did
not have to meet the public. Otherwise, he would have been, in a
few months, one of the “ down and outs.” Once more he had taken
his place in the ranks of real wage earners, engaged in their own line
of work for which they had received special training.
[Meeting adjourned.]




THURSDAY, JUNE 6—MORNING SESSION
Ethel M. Johnson, Assistant Commissioner Massachusetts Department of Labor
and Industries, Presiding

WAGES, HOURS, AND HOME WORK
Chairman J o h n s o n . The program outlined for this morning’s
session looks longer than it really is, judging by the title, “ Wages,
Hours, and Home Work.” We had several speakers who were
scheduled to come to Toronto, but some of them are unable to be
present. That means that there will be a good deal of time for in­
formal questions and discussions. The suggested questions—wages,
hours, and home work—are probably in some States assigned for
special consideration to the bureau of women and children in in­
dustry, appointed especially to study such problems and to make
recommendations for dealing with them. Only a few States have
established such bureaus. The Federal Department of Labor has a
Women’s Bureau which is engaged in studying these problems
throughout the country. We are fortunate in having at the head of
that bureau a woman who has a broad and sympathetic insight and
understanding of the problems of women in industry. Miss Ander­
son is going to speak first, and she will tell us something with re­
gard to the work of the Women’s Bureau of the United States
Department of Labor.
Relation of Women’s Bureau to State Departments of Labor
By

M aby A n d ebson ,

director, United States Women’s Bureau

In the act of Congress of 1920 establishing the Women’s Bureau
its duty was defined as follows: “ To formulate standards and policies
which shall promote the welfare of wage-earning women, improve
their working conditions, increase their efficiency, and advance
their opportunities for profitable employment.”
The bureau has no power of law enforcement in the States, its func­
tions being solely those of research and the establishing of standards.
However, its field being national in extent and concerned with the
8,500,000 women gainfully employed in the United States—in con­
trast to the States, whose activities are confined to their own bound­
aries—it is able to make available to all parts of the country the
information which it collects and to supplement the material gathered
by the States on the various problems that affect the opportunities
of employment for women.
In all States large numbers of women must carry the double
burden of provider and home maker. In the endeavor of the bureau
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throughout the United States acceptable standards for the employ­
ment of women, the cooperation of the State governments is essential.
While some employers provide excellent working conditions, others
are negligent and some never would do so unless required by law.
States therefore have made an effort to assure to their woman workers
better conditions of work in general than would otherwise be at­
tained by standardizing certain conditions of employment by
legislation.
Since industrial development varies so widely between States,
it is natural that the character, extent, and administration of labor
laws also should vary. This in itself creates a need for research by
a Federal bureau.
In all but five States there is a limit to the number of hours a
woman may work during the day or week, but these limitations differ
greatly. In 10 States, the District of Columbia, and Porto Rico
an 8-hour day is the maximum permitted by law in certain industries;
in other States a 9, 10, or even an 11 hour day is allowed, and in
some industries a 12-hour day receives legal sanction.
There is an even wider range in the maximum of weekly hours
found on the statute books, this varying from the 48-hour limitation
in certain States to the 70-hour maximum permitted in others.
Eight States have minimum-wage laws which so far have not
suffered from adverse court decisions. Those States are California,
Massachusetts, North Dakota, South Dakota, Oregon, Utah, Wash­
ington, and Wisconsin. Massachusetts’ law is nonmandatory and
Wisconsin, whose first law was held invalid on the basis of the
United States Supreme Court decision in the District of Columbia
case, has passed an entirely new kind of law for adult woman
workers.
In Minnesota the law as applying to adult women has been held
unconstitutional on the basis of the District of Columbia decision,
but it still is enforced for minors under 21.
In some States all laws relating to woman workers are under
the jurisdiction of one agency, while in others different laws are
administered by different bureaus. In three States there is a spe­
cial division in the State department of labor charged with the duty
of research on problems of interest to women, but 12 States have
women either on the industrial commission or engaged in supervising
the enforcement of some law or laws pertaining to women and chil­
dren and a few other States have one or more woman inspectors.
There are, however, a considerable number of States in which no
woman inspects the conditions of employment for women and a few
in which no one makes such inspections.
Under such conditions it is natural that State departments of
labor and other agencies should turn to the Women’s Bureau for
information on the standards affecting conditions of work for women
adopted by the various States. A bulletin issued by the bureau and
entitled, “ State laws affecting working women,” which outlines all
the laws in the 48 States and the District of Columbia that deal with
hours of labor for women, night work, minimum wage, and the con­
ditions under which home work is to be carried on, has been used
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and brought up to date in its third edition. The data, presented con­
cisely on charts, are of special value to State departments of labor,
employers, workers, and others interested, as a source of information
concerning the standards of the various States in the matter of
these types of labor laws for woman workers.
While there will probably never be complete uniformity in labor
laws for women in the United States, employers as well as workers
feel the ill effects of so wide a difference in standards as now exists
between some States. The formulation of policies and standards
necessitates the collection of facts and figures on the questions that
so vitally affect American wage earners, and it is obvious that a
Federal bureau must function if all workers and all employers are
to be served.
State departments of labor sometimes find that, either because
their authority is limited to law enforcement or because their staff
is small, they are not in a position to make state-wide surveys of
women’s emplo;
J* * 1 J 1
Ter urgent the need for such
Women’s Bureau has, on
investigations
request, conducted the surveys in question, and in 19 States investi­
gations of the hours, wages, and working conditions of women have
been made. These surveys have covered 274,000 women in more than
3.700 places of employment. They have been undertaken at the
direct request of State officials or other State agencies, and in prac­
tically all cases the employers in the State extended the most
courteous cooperation. In several surveys State inspectors have
worked in conjunction with agents of the bureau in filling out
schedules in industrial establishments. The policy of the bureau is
never to go into a State for investigatory purposes without first
getting the cooperation and advice of the State officials.
While the capacity of the bureau is limited, it has furnished com­
pilations of census data showing the occupational distribution of
women in the various States, and in a number of cases the States
have been supplied with information not otherwise obtainable.
Examples of this are “ The family-status of bread-winning women in
four selected cities ”—a study from the original census schedules for
Passaic, Jacksonville, Wilkes-Barre, and Butte—and “ The new posi­
tion of women in American industry,” based on records of the War
Industries Board. In these cases the bureau has brought to general
attention material that otherwise might have remained buried in
filing cases, or, at best, might have received little more than local
notice. In general, it conducts what amounts practicallv to an
information service on the various problems and phases of women
in industry.
A definitely organized means by which the bureau is functioning
as a clearing house of information regarding the activities affecting
working women is the News Letter issued periodically by the bureau
and sent out to a large mailing list. At the convention in July, 1920,
of the Association of Governmental Labor Officials there was found
to be a very general demand for the publication of a bulletin which
would provide the members of that organization with information
as to the activities and findings in matters concerning the employ­
ment of women in the United States. It is obvious that in this con­
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departments for current information on their activities and about
court decisions, changes in laws, or other occurrences that relate to
or directly affect woman wage earners. I would urge labor officials
in the different States to send to the Women’s Bureau the informa­
tion that they feel can be published in this News Letter so that we
will have more, and much more up-to-date, information than we
now have.
In addition to this organ of information the bureau sends to State
officials the statistical bulletins on its general and special studies as
they appear from time to time; it lends to them and to other groups
its exhibit material; and upon request furnishes information on
the drafting of schedules for studies planned by State agencies.
While the exhibit material that the bureau can furnish is limited in
comparison with that of bureaus of the Government engaged in com­
mercial and agricultural research, it is in great demand and during
the past year 512 exhibits were sent by request into 36 States.
There has been effective cooperation on the part of State depart­
ments of labor with the Women’s Bureau in some of their special
studies. A striking example of this is the study of industrial acci­
dents among woman workers, published by the bureau in 1927, for
which State officials of New Jersey, Ohio, and Wisconsin placed
at the disposal of the bureau their files and records on industrial
accidents and compensation. These three States were selected be­
cause of outstanding differences in method of insuring compensation
to persons injured in industry. The report constitutes a notable
example of the value of bringing together comparable information
from several States.
Another study and important piece of research conducted by the
bureau involving much State cooperation was inaugurated as a
result of the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States in
1922 declaring unconstitutional the minimum wage law of the Dis­
trict of Columbia. This decision had far-reaching effects on the
application of this type of legislation to adult women in States hav­
ing similar laws. There was, in consequence, a general demand for
a permanent record of the experience in the various States with
this type of social legislation, and a research study was made of the
history, operation, and administration of the minimum wage laws
in the States where such laws were in operation and where the rec­
ords placed at the disposal of the bureau by the State officials made
possible a careful analysis of methods and results.
During the past year a special effort has been made to establish
contact with State departments of labor for the purpose of extend­
ing cooperation along new lines and making a practical working
arrangement for the use by the bureau of information about wageearning women collected by the States. Sixteen States have been
visited for this purpose to date, and splendid response has resulted.
While the majority of States collect and publish a considerable
amount of labor statistics, each prepares its material for local use
primarily and does not present figures intended to have special
value as a basis of comparison with other States publishing informa­
tion on the same subjects. It is highly desirable that a method be
adopted for presenting information collected by the States that will
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of work, fluctuation in employment for women, and the extent and
nature of industrial accidents to women. State departments of
labor can render great service in the field of social statistics by pub­
lishing their figures, by sex and in age groups, in such form that the
data will be comparable with those collected in other States.
A number of States have offered to cooperate with the bureau and
classify by sex and age the accident data they make public from
time to time. Though the development of this project will be slow,
and comparable results may not be achieved for two or three years,
all such information will be a valuable contribution to the knowledge
on this subject.
The bureau is charged with functions that cover a very extensive
and complicated field of human endeavor. The past shows the
value of close cooperation by the bureau and the States. The devel­
opment of further projects in the future is important, since the
problems of wage-earning women largely affect the social welfare of
the Nation.
DISCUSSION

Chairman J o h n s o n . Before going on with the next paper we will
take 15 or 20 minutes for the discussion of Miss Anderson’s paper.
Are there any questions anyone would like to ask Miss Anderson
about the work of the Women’s Bureau?
Mr. S eiller . I would like to ask one question about uniformity
in State laws. I presume that in your opinion we are a long way
from uniformity?
Miss A n der son . Indeed, we are a long way from uniformity.
Mr. S eiller . T o my way of thinking, there is no reason for any
difference in the regulation of hours in Toronto, in Louisville, or
in New York. If it is harmful for female workers to work more than
eight hours in a laundry in New York, why would it not be the same
in Lousiville? We have no clearing house, really, where we can go
for a standard on women’s laws, unless we go to the Women’s Bu­
te chief enforcement officer of our
department is not satisfied at all
w iu i u ur ota-wj w o m en s la w .
x t has very bad language in it— in the
matter of enforcement—such words as “ suitable,” “ reasonable,” and
“ proper.” Words like these are always creating difficulties in law.
In searching the available labor law data I have on hand, I have
not been able really to get n good standard of a women’s law. In
our law we have the regulation of hours, and proceedings for the
enforcement of the law. That is probably more than I have found
in most of the laws regulating women’s work.
We hope to get a new women’s law; we hope to revise thoroughly
our present law, and I am going to send to Miss Anderson what we
think is a fair standard. I would like to request that she give this
matter a little thought and prepare a standard that we can work
toward, so as to obtain uniformity in the women’s hour law.
Miss A nd er so n . I shall be very glad to give you what the States
consider their best enforcement conditions. We can compile that.
We could not, of course, possibly make what you might call a model
law for the States; but there are certain features in certain States
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I think the trouble with most laws is that they are very vague in
their enforcement features. We can always put information at the
disposal of the States that would like to have it.
California has just passed a new enforcement feature in its eighthour law, which takes the burden of proof off the women and
puts it upon the records. It will be interesting to see just how it is
going to work out. It is certainly a step in the right direction.
Miss P eter so n . T w o years ago I visited a number of States and
found there were adequate and reasonable regulations, and they are
being used. I promised some of the commissioners that we would
furnish several of the States with what we considered were the best
standards in certain States. Take toilet facilities especially— we
have sent certain States information of that nature. We have
selected the New York code and the Massachusetts code, and we have
sent these because they approach the subject from a different angle.
I think in discussing laws for women, we want to be careful not to
mix our legislation with these other subjects, becauso they are so
very different from one another.
Mr. R o o k sber y . That is what we find in searching these laws, that
they are really so different that there is no common basis to work on.
In Arkansas we had no safety legislation except what was in the
women’s law. Our law, I think, is more inclusive along that line.
We have a provision for the employer to keep a time book and to
register the number of hours, but we find that that is impracticable,
because we do not have a sufficient number of inspectors to make at
least three checks a year; if we get over our State about once in 18
months we are going some.
Our State is badly unbalanced geographically, in the way of popu­
lation and industry, so that we have to confine ourselves to certain
spots and complaints in connection with the women’s law.
I want to submit to Miss Anderson our proposed standard, and I
want her in her department, very thoroughly to go over it and see if
we can not arrive at a workable standard. Tennessee, Arkansas,
and other States should work toward uniformity. In sections of the
Southeastern States it would be easy to work toward a standard law.
There is no good reason why Tennessee should not. I think they
have 54y2 hours a week; we have 60 hours, r. difference of four or
five hours in the week, which makes considerable difference when
people come in and go out of our State. It is also an argument from
the employer’s point of view, in the matter of competition in the
making of his products.
Miss A n d e r so n . I think that in the Southern States, particularly
among the employers, there is an agitation to do away with night
work, and that is particularly true among the textiles. It seems to
me that that ought to be taken into consideration, because I think
there will be great support for it among the employers in the South.
Mr. R o oksbery . We in the South find at this time, due to agitation
on the part of chambers of commerce and other industrial organiza­
tions to promote industry throughout the South, that there is a
tendency to do away with women’s laws. This is the case in
Arkansas. There was an 8-hour bill introduced at the last session
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time holding our 9-hour law. It seems to me that southern em­
ployers are trying to promote the textile industry throughout the
South, especially m Arkansas, Tennessee, Alabama, and North and
South Carolina; and those States are having a hard fight at the
present time to hold their labor laws. Under the woman and child
labor laws there is a tendency to break down, and there is a hard fight
at every session of the legislature. It is going to take cooperation on
the part of these States to maintain what they already have.
We work successfully through the Women’s Federated Clubs and
labor organizations and the school authorities. Now, it seems as
though they are becoming somewhat educated, especially as to the
child labor law, but I believe it is going to take four or five more years
before we shall be able to strengthen either our child labor laws or
our women’s laws in Arkansas. I think the other States have the
same conditions confronting them.
Chairman J o h n s o n . In Massachusetts this year there were no bills
introduced to repeal or modify the protective labor laws, which I
think is significant. There were a good many measures for progres­
sive legislation, although a number of them failed to pass.
Miss M a r s h . I would like to find out a little more about the
California provision which Miss Anderson thought had come into
existence.
Miss A nderso n . I am not sure; but I think they have just passed
an amendment—addition—to their 8-hour law, to place the burden of
proof of any violation upon the shoulders of others than the em­
ployees; the employees do not need to testify. I do not have it in
full; but the burden of proof is to be on the records rather than on
the employees. How they are going to work it out, I do not know.
Chairman J o h n s o n . There are a number of connected topics which
would be interesting to take up, but we will have to pass on to the
next topic and leave other questions in connection with the Women’s
Bureau for the general discussion later on.
The subject of the minimum wage is of interest, I think, to most of
us, particularly since the adverse decision of the Supreme Court of
the United States in regard to mandatory minimum wage laws in the
United States. That has left only Massachusetts with the type of
legislation, which presumably would be considered constitutional by
the present Supreme Court, although some of the other States are
going on with the administration of their laws. California is en­
forcing its law with the cooperation of the employers’ associations.
Wisconsin has adopted a fair-wage law for adult woman workers.
Canada has apparently been much more successful in the operation
of its minimum-wage legislation than we in the States. And al­
though it followed in the ‘earlier days some of the forms of the
minimum-wage legislation in the United States rather than the
English minimum-wage laws, it has not been influenced by the adverse
court decisions which we have had in the United States. So we
are very much interested in having with us Professor MacMillan, of
Victoria University, also chairman of the Minimum Wage Board
of Ontario, who will tell us about the administration of minimumwage legislation in Ontario.




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Administration of the Minimum Wage Law in Ontario
By Dr. J. W.

M a c M illa n ,

chairman Minimum Wage Board, Ontario

I should like to begin with a word of sympathetic greeting from
the minimum-wage workers of Canada to the minimum-wage
workers of the United States.
Rudyard Kipling has a little quatrain which runs like this:
The toad beneath the harrow knows
Exactly where each sharp tooth goes;
The butterfly above the road
Preaches contentment to that toad.

We in Canada occupy the position of the butterfly, while you
in the United States occupy the position of the toad. We, how­
ever, are not preaching contentment to you—that is not our
attitude. We certainly congratulate ourselves on being bereft of
the merciful blessing of a supreme court which can declare a law
unconstitutional. Our supreme court can pronounce as to the juris­
diction— on which side of the fence it falls, whether this particular
matter appertains to the Federal or to the Provincial authority—
but it can not declare any law unconstitutional. We have that
advantage.
We are glad to recognize that in spite of this adverse decision there
are some 13 States of the Union that have effective minimum wage
administration, and we owe a very great deal, not only in this region,
but in other regions, to the social legislation enacted by you people
who are south of the international boundary.
These reforms that come from Europe and from Britain, such as
the workmen’s compensation law, seem to be routed to us through the
United States rather than across the Atlantic. We get your litera­
ture, and watch your operations in Massachusetts, California, and so
forth, and we gain a great deal from your example.
In Ontario we have under the operation of our orders perhaps
100,000 women and girls, and of this number possibly some 60,000
work in factories. There are several preliminaries of administration
that are of the first importance. One is the attitude of the Govern­
ment. We operate under an independent commission, but we are
well aware that if it were not for a correct and sympathetic attitude
on the part of the Government in power, our work would not be so
well supported.
During the 10 years of our life we have enjoyed from the two
governments—namely, the U. F. O., or the farmers’ government,
and the conservative government—a very cooperative attitude.
They have left us entirely independent; they have let it be known
that they approve of our work; and they have been ready to provide
us with the assistance of any other department of government, in
the way of information or of support, as we may require it.
Another thing is that we sought and gained the cooperation of
both groups concerned, namely, the employers and the employees;
in fact, I think it is an essential of minimum-wage administration
that the orders shall carry the consent and the approval of the
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that line, and certainly throughout the world the successful types
of minimum-wage administration have always engaged the coopera­
tive assistance of both these groups.
We have met again and again, in the issuing of our 47 orders, with
groups of employers and of employees, both together and sepa­
rately, and in every case we have made a plea that we have found
most convincing. We have said to them that we wish to do only
a very simple thing—that is, to provide a barrier which shall
protect the decent living of the working women of the Province;
that all we are asking for is that women shall be able to live from
their work, and we have not yet found anyone who has challenged
that principle.
In gaining support of the principle, we have been able to gain
assistance in framing orders, and thus these orders carry the support
and authority of the trades themselves.
From that follows a third preliminary, which I think is also of
first importance; that is, that the entire spirit and method of the
administration should be conciliatory. Our attitude has never been
that of trying to force upon an unwilling people something that
they are reluctant to carry out. It has rather been that of pointing
out to them a way in which they can accomplish something that they
desire to do. We have taken an attitude, not of anger, but rather
of surprise, when we have found orders violated. We have been
ready to point out, in the spirit in which a friend would point out
to a friend, some inadvertence perhaps; and we have found this
method very frequently justified in fact and always in results. When
the time has come, as it occasionally has, that we have had to rattle
the sabre in its scabbard and have had to proceed to a prosecution
at law, then our action has been more impressive because of this
antecedent spirit of conciliation.
We have issued 47 orders; 21 of these deal with factories. We
have divided the factories into groups, such as paper, leather, textile,
the needle trades, and so on. We have other orders for retail offices,
stores, laundries, telephone offices, hotels, millinery establishments,
elevators, and canneries. There are also several subgroups attached
to these orders. Girls who meet the public in various ways, girls
in doctors’ offices, dentists’ offices, ticket sellers, and so on; girls
who work in warehouses, not factory workers, not salesladies, are
attached to the office workers’ orders.
The several devices and methods of administration may be out­
lined in this way. The first is publicity. It is obviously desirable
that the work should be known about, particularly that those most
vitally concerned should be specifically informed as to these regula­
tions. We therefore require that our posters shall, wherever it is
practicable, be put up where they can readily be seen by the em­
ployees. We have not found it practicable in regard to office
workers. In the retail stores, factories, hotels, and so on, these post­
ers are on the walls, and the inspectors of the factory inspection
branch of the Province, as they go their rounds, report to us whether
these posters are kept displayed or not and whether they have been
destroyed or lost. Where they have been destroyed or lost a second
lot is supplied, with an accompanying letter. If this thing happens
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two or three times in succession, it is taken up more definitely, and
in case of an attitude of recalcitrance or criticism, we are prepared
to go a considerable length to see that these posters shall be main­
tained in a permanent position. We have never had to go beyond
one or two letters, or perhaps a personal visit.
Outside of that, we like to get all the publicity we can, but it is
difficult to get. The trouble is that there is no spectacular news.
You know, if a dog bites a man, that is not news; but if a man bites
a dog, it is news. We have little news to give. There is not much
of the spectacular, not much excitement or sensation in our work,
and we do not desire that there should be. We want the work to
flow evenly and harmoniously along; and for that reason we do not
get many headlines in the newspapers. We try to get what publicity
we can, and take such opportunities as present themselves to use the
public press. We are fortunate in having some members on the board
who have an excellent knowledge of the subject. Various clubs will
from time to time give us an opportunity to talk of our work, and we
find that our story is one which elicits the approval of our audiences.
So we take that as another means for gaining publicity—our first
method of administration.
The second is dealing with complaints. We got last year 372
complaints, practically 1 per day. They came from employees,
from disinterested spectators, from parents of employees, from
clergymen, and quite a number from competitive employers; some
came anonymously, some came by telephone, some by mail, and some
by visit to our office. We dealt with them all, no matter how they
came. A number of complaints were not sustained, while others
represented some violations of orders. We were able to settle these
either by correspondence or by personal visits; and I think, that
with only one exception, we settled those 372 complaints in an
amicable fashion.
We are fortunate in having one member of our board who is able
to give his time very largely to dealing with complaints which re­
quire personal attention. Although he represents the labor interests,
his attitude on the board is not at all partisan; he is well known and
generally accepted throughout the Province as a man who is fairminded and gifted for conciliation and arbitration. We owe a great
deal to his handling of cases in a personal way.
We have found three kinds of employers that require our atten­
tion. There is first what we call the shyster employer, the man who
does not play fair; he does not play fair with competitive employ­
ers—he wants their employees to buy his goods but he does not want
his employees to buy their goods. He wants other people to pay
good wages while he pays poor wages. That is his idea of getting
a competitive advantage. We find him trying to take advantage of
his employees in many ways which I shall not detail. Occasionally
we find him lying to us, and in that case we act somewhat severely.
We find him sending false reports, or even being reluctant or an­
tagonistic, and it pleases us to take an attitude ox compulsion with
him. However, the number of employers who may be characterized
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Employers are like other classes of human beings—superior, in­
ferior, and those that run between. The average is low. In many
cases the average in managerial occupations, in my opinion, is not
very high. In fact I noticed a recent authoritative statement that
90 per cent of the men engaged in business sooner or later fail,
which bears out that observation. In any case, we find a great many
who never relate their selling costs to their production costs; they
are good selling agents, but not good factory managers.
One by-product of our organization is that we have been able
to help many men engaged in business to conduct their business in
a better fashion. It is not in our province, but it does happen that
we gather a great deal of valuable information about this, that, and
the other, and we pass it on. We know of case after case where the
working force has been improved in its relationship to the employer,
and vice versa, and also to the business.
Then there are cases where some girl or group is overlooked; as
a rule all that is required is to call the attention of the management
to the case. Frequently we get a letter of thanks for having called
attention to the case. That is the second line, dealing with com­
plaints. Here we enjoy the cooperation of the factory inspection
branch in a very direct way.
We have, officially, no inspectors. We have our office force—a
small one of three—and we have the time of one member of our
board for special cases; but we have no inspection force of our own.
The inspectors of the factory inspection branch report to us as
to the posters; and, aside from that, give us a great deal of inci­
dental assistance. Every fortnight we meet with Mr. Burke, the
chief factory inspector, and go over all these complaints. Last year
we had 26 meetings of that kind, and we dealt with the 372 com­
plaints as they came along.
Our next point is, wage-sheet adjustments. We began at the first
to collect annually wage sheets from all the factories, and from many
other establishments throughout the Province, but I will confine
this talk to the factories. Last year we gathered these wage sheets
from 3,000 factories, representing 60,000 workers. We have a regu­
lar letter we send out with a question form, in response to which we
get about one-half; a second letter brings about one-half of the rest;
then we get out a third letter, which gets about one-half of the
remainder; and a fourth letter, with ginger in it, brings in all the
rest. But not every time.
Take the needle trades in Toronto; they have many foreign born,
who do not know the English language, and it requires a great deal
of attention to get these wage sheets. But we get them in the end.
Unless a factory has more than 75 employees, we require the name
of each female employee; if the number is over 75, we allow them
to summarize. Many of the large factories do not take advantage
of that. We get lists of 300 or 400. Wage rates are shown—the
rates of wages paid to pieceworkers, and the rates of wages paid to
timeworkers. Besides that, information is given as to minors—
those under 18. The date of hiring of each girl that is receiving
less than the prescribed experienced workers’ minimum is also given.
We get these sheets year in and year out, and compare them with
previous years. We can tell pretty well whether the law is being
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force must get the experienced workers’ minimum. We can tell
at once whether that proportion is maintained or not; we then look
at the sheets to see how it is worked out. We have no interest in
anything above that minimum. We can also see when a girl was
hired. If the wage sheet does not appear to be in conformity with
the order, we write a conciliatory, friendly letter. If good wages
are shown in the sheets, we send a congratulatory letter.
Sometimes we call attention to a case like this: Here is Jennie
Jones— or Susie Smith—in her first year, who should be getting
$10, whereas she is set down as getting $9.40. We say that we will
be glad if the firm would write us about this employee and make the
necessary adjustments to conform to the law. Last year from the
3,000 wage sheets we had over 300 letters of this kind to write, but
we were able in every case to make an adjustment. Sometimes
there was an explanation to be made. Jennie Jones had been away six
months, but had come back again. In that way we could assure our­
selves that the standards were being supported; and we were able
to do this almost entirely by correspondence. We think that in this
device, the use of this question form, we have a method of pretty
effectively realizing the intention of the law, which is to protect
the standard of living of the working women.
Then there is the question of permits. We enjoy a wide au­
thority indeed in regard to permits—we can issue permits as we
wish. We use this authority with a great deal of care. A permit for
handicapped workers is issued in connection with the regulation
which requires that one-half of the workers must receive the
minimum wage.
We also issue permits to new factories where they have to teach
their workers a new occupation. Some are seasonal; sometimes a
large force is employed at one season of the year and a very small
force at other times in the year. We give permits in those cases.
Special apprenticeship permits are issued, for instance, in the print­
ing trade. Many girls in printing plants never learn to be printers.
It is only throughout the rural parts of the Province that they are
actually taught the trade of printing. They can go anywhere and
earn excellent wages as printers. In these cases we have regular
apprenticeship forms for the printing trade, worked out with the
newspaper association of the Province.
Altogether we have only 97 permits in force in the whole Province.
Another matter is the collection of arrears. Last year we collected
$7,400 of arrears from 75 firms; the money was paid to 130 em­
ployees. One got as much as $150, and one got as little as $2.50;
the average was about $50. We do not regard this as desirable; the
ideal is, of course, where there are no arrears collectible. We do not
want to develop a class of girls who go around underbidding their
competitors, and then come to us a few months afterwards to collect
their arrears. We are careful to see that such a girl is not supported
by us. Nevertheless, we find it a valuable way of seeing that the
law is obeyed.
Occasionally an employer writes in saying that he is required to
raise the wages of a girl who is not worth it. In reply we write that
he is quite free to discharge her, and kindly send us a statement
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Very generally he changes his mind and keeps her. If he does not
keep her, we collect the arrears.
One man in a certain city in the Province said that his business
was not paying more than 7 per cent; he cut the wages of his em­
ployees, and then he cut them still lower. That man paid $4,000 of
arrears, and almost doubled his girls’ wages besides.
We had another case last year where a man failed to carry out
a promise he had made by letter, and it cost him about $1,400 in the
way of arrears. It is a valuable instrument of punishment, but not
a desirable thing in the successful administration of the law.
In conclusion let me say that I believe in minimum-wage adminis-.
trators sticking to their task. I say this because so much of the
literature published about minimum wage seems to disregard the
fact that the business of the minimum-wage board is simply to en­
force the payment of wages, or it may be, if the law permits, of
hours and conditions of labor, too.
One cheap criticism which has been made is that unemployment
insurance is not provided. Another mistake which is made (it is a
great temptation, of course) is to put the bludgeon of the law in the
hands of a person who wants to do as much as he can for the workers.
It is a mistake to place the rate above the minimum; it is enough
to see that a girl is simply and decently clothed; that she has such
ordinary comforts as are recognized as essential to wholesome living.
If we do that we will have the public with us. But we do not say
that she shall have a fur boa about her neck, or silk stockings on her
feet, or a hot-water bag to put her feet on in the winter, or that she
shall have money enough to save to get married. These are things
that are suggested to us. If we did that we would lose public sym­
pathy, because the vast majority of the people are not rich. The
average income is not much above the minimum; and I think we
should keep to the minimum.
DISCUSSION

General S w e e tse r . Mr. MacMillan, these wage sheets you ask
for from the employers, are you sure you get the right rates of
wages? How do you check that up, or how are you sure that they
are correct in each case ?
Doctor M a c M i l l a n . Well, we have had in our 10 years’ experience
two or three instances where the information was not correct, but
only two or three. You see, we are constantly checking and investi­
gating complaints in dealing with these wage-sheet adjustments, and
sooner or later we are certain to find out if false information has
been given. The exceptions are negligible. They tell us the truth.
General S w e e tse r . D o they swear to the wage sheets ?
Doctor M a c M i l l a n . No ; I think it would be a great mistake to
insist upon anything like that.
General S w eetser . But you insist upon a check-up ?
Doctor M a c M i l l a n . If we have any reason to be suspicious, we
send a man down.
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Doctor M ac M il l a n . Not necessarily; the evidence which comes to
us shows that they are truthful reports.
Mr. S t e w a r t . What do you mean by “ arrears ” ?
Doctor M ac M i l l a n . The law provides that a woman shall receive
a certain minimum wage. An experienced worker in the city of
Toronto must get at least $12.50 a week. She may have worked for
three or six months at $11 a week, so her employer owes her $1.50
for each of those weeks.
Mr. S t e w a r t . H ow can he employ her below that wage—under the
$12.50?
Doctor M ac M i l l a n . He can not do it unless he does it illegally.
Chairman J o h n s o n . I wish to thank Doctor MacMillan for the
splendid exposition he has given of the administration of minimumwage legislation in Ontario. I am particularly glad that he has
emphasized the importance of sane, wise, and sympathetic administra­
tion and enforcement of such laws. Enforcement is a very impor­
tant point in any kind of legislation. It is particularly important
in the case of labor laws. I sometimes think that in regard to such
laws we could borrow the percentage from a popular advertisement
and say that 991^ r of the success of a labor law depends upon
the type of officials who are behind that law. I am glad that Doctor
MacMillan emphasized the need of securing the cooperation and
support of both employees and employers, and that he pointed out
that it is a work of conciliation and arbitration in which he is en­
gaged. I am also glad that he stressed the need for publicity in
work of this kind.
Miss M a r s h . I would like to ask Doctor MacMillan if there is a
maximum-hour week in Ontario; is there a legal limitation to the
number of hours per week ?
Doctor M ac M il l a n . Our situation in Ontario is rather an unusual
one. Our legal maximum is not in the minimum-wage laws. It is
60 hours a week, or 10 hours a day. As a matter of fact, it is a
dead letter. There may be one factory somewhere in Ontario work­
ing 60 hours a week, but, if so, there is only one; 44 to 48 is the
average. The hours get a little longer if you go out into the country
places—50 and 54.
Miss M a r s h . I f the minimum wage applied to a 60-hour week, and
a factory worked 44 hours, would they pay pro rata ?
Doctor M a c M i l l a n . When we began our work we were given au­
thority over wages, not hours of work. As we met with groups of
employers, we pointed out the possibility that some might try to
plead low output and have a hypothetical 60-hour week, but work
44 hours or part time. We said if that were done we would make
our wage rate on an hourly basis. We have found very few trying
to do that kind of thing. Since then we have had an amendment
to the law by which we can state a specific time for which the mini­
mum wage shall be payable, and require overtime beyond that. In
a number of orders we have issued since that amendment came in—
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things like that—we set a certain week, say 50 hours usually, for
which this wage shall be payable, and overtime beyond that.
Miss M a r s h . If they work less than that they are paid pro rata?
Doctor M a c M i l l a n . They are paid pro rata, according to the nor*
mal week in vogue. If a factory works 40 hours, it means forty
forty-fourths; forty-fiftieths.
Chairman J o h n s o n . Do you inspect, in the case of a complaint?
Doctor M a c M i l l a n . Yes.
Chairman J o h n s o n . I understood you to say you got a great deal
of information through returns made by the employers.
Doctor M a c M i l l a n . In case of a complaint, we have to deal with
it specifically. If we receive a complaint from a girl who is holding
a job and does not want her name known, we get a report from the
employer as to his employees, or someone goes down and looks over
the books, and he can suggest some adjustment without saying any­
thing about the complaint. He asks, What about this one, and that
one ? And then he comes to the one in question. If she has left the
place, that is another story; the question of arrears is then taken up
Chairman J o h n s o n . In the case of applicants for exemption cer­
tificates, do you investigate them?
Doctor M ac M i l l a n . Always, personally. We sometimes give an
interim permit, until we have an opportunity to make a personal
visit.
Doctor P a t t o n . Did you give permits to 97 employers?
Doctor M ac M i l l a n . T o 97 firms.
Doctor P a t t o n . Do you know how many employees they covered?

Doctor M ac M i l l a n . It would be hard to say, because quite a num­
ber of permits simply dealt with the regulation that one-half the
force must be getting the minimum for experienced help. It might
in certain factories cover hundreds. I think I can give you what you
want. There are 69 handicapped workers. These are individual
workers, who have lost a finger or who are mentally defective, so
that they are allowed to work for lower wages.
Doctor P a t t o n . Are you swamped with applications for permits ?
Doctor M a c M i l l a n . No; we have never had any trouble in that
way.
General S w e etser . H o w many have you on your staff ?
Doctor M a c M i l l a n . We have five. We have two that are sup­
posed to represent the employers—they do not represent the employ­
ers more than anyone else—and we have two that are supposed to
represent the employees; I sit on the fence, between them. I have
never had to cast the vote. The only division is when our board gets
at one end and I get at the other.
Miss P eterson . I feel quite sure, but I want to put the question
so that it will go into the record. Are all permits granted to firms
dated to show when the permits expire ?
Doctor M ac M i l l a n . Well, no, not all; there are some cases in
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proportion of experienced workers; all of those permits are for three
months or six months.
Chairman J o h n s o n . We have representatives from other Cana­
dian Provinces where there are minimum-wage laws in effect. I
think it would be interesting to hear from them, and to learn to
what extent there is uniformity in the Provinces. In the United
States there are great variations in the laws in the different States.
What is the situation in Canada? Is Mr. McKenzie, of Halifax,
here? Do you have minimum-wage legislation in Nova Scotia?
M r . M cK

e n z ie .

N o.

Doctor M ac M i l l a n . There is a law, but it has never been enforced
or put into operation.
Chairman J o h n s o n . We would like to hear from Mr. Fester next.
Mr. F ester . I do not know that there is much that I can add
to what Doctor MacMillan has set forth. He has told us the
story in so far as it applies to the Province of Ontario.
We have been on this job approximately 10 years. In that time
we have had two governments, representing two distinct political
affiliations. Our commission, in all these years, has remained intact.
I think it is a tribute to the success of our commission that it has been
maintained.
We owe a lot to our chairman. I am now speaking from the
standpoint of the Ontario minimum wage board. It should have
been added, and I may add at this time, that we have two woman
members on the board, because it is the women who are concerned.
We have one representative of organized labor, a woman, and
another who was for many years the national secretary for the
National Council of Women and a very capable woman.
The problem, of course, is essentially one of appraising human
values. I find it so, because I am actively in touch with the job. I
am the one who visits this, that, and the other fellow. I am a
‘‘ strike committee,” perpetually in session, and it is not always a
very likable sort of job. Still, it has to be done.
The question was raised with regard to a check-up of the wage
returns. That is an interesting point. I do not want you to go
away with the idea that we accept these returns at their face value.
While it is true that a very great proportion of them are accurate,
nevertheless it is part of my job to check up those returns. If I go
to Port Arthur, Fort William, Kitchener, Hamilton, or Ottawa, as
the case may be, to look into a complaint that may be of more than
ordinary complexity, I am not wasting the Government’s money by
just going down there and looking into that one specific complaint
and spending the rest of the day at the hotel and then coming home.
Usually I adjust the complaint, and spend several days in the city,
generally calling upon 50 or 75 establishments; I look into their
books and find out what wages they are paying and make a note of
it, file it in a report and check it against the wage returns these
people have made. That is a fair barometer as to the accuracy of
the returns that are made to our office.
I think that during the course of a year I visit probably from
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them have complaints. I merely drop in, see how they are getting
along, and look at the books as a matter of course.
As Doctor MacMillan has pointed out, we believe, the great ma­
jority of returns, with a very slight exception, are accurate. After
all, there are penalties involved. Those penalties are severe, and
the average man has no desire to come into conflict with the law.
Even where low wages are paid, they are almost invariably accu­
rately stated on the wage sheets. I can say this—that the chap who
pays low wages is the last to make his returns. It takes the fourth
letter to make the low-wage fellow produce his wage sheets. Then,
of course, explanations are in order. Aside from that, it is merely
a question of meeting practical problems as they arise from day to
day. We do not prosecute unless we are absolutely sure of our case,
and we have never lost a case in this Province. Perhaps I should
qualify that. In one, we sought to compromise a case. A girl had
actually accepted a compromise, and then, womanlike, she changed
her mind. The judge held that she had a right to change her mind;
and he made them pay to the last cent.
We have had fine support from the courts, we have also had good
support from the Government. They have given us a free hand in
our affairs. For that we are thankful indeed. It is difficult success­
fully to administer the law if you are harrassed by Government
interference. Some of you knoW that. There has never been a
member of Parliament, there has never been a cabinet minister, to
approach us in regard to our work. I can point to one outstanding
case where a personal friend of the Premier was concerned in a
matter of arrears of wages. The man appealed to him, and the
Premier sent his letter on to us; the fellow paid his arrears just the
same. That is the whole story so far as we are concerned. We
attribute a reasonable measure of the success we have had in this
Province to the fact that there has been no political interference,
that we have been given a free hand, that we have an exceedingly
capable chairman who has had experience in other Provinces, having
been chairman of J;he minimum wage board of the Province of
Manitoba before he became chairman of the minimum wage board
of the Province of Ontario.
I could tell you many interesting stories, so far as our adminis­
trative problems ate concerned, but I have no desire to do that,
because there are experiences that many of you have had in your
own States or Provinces, and which perhaps you will want to relate.
I trust you will do your best to promote minimum-wage adminis­
tration and minimum-wage legislation in your respective States in
the country from which you come.
I want to add that, if it were not for the Ontario minimum wage
board, conditions so far as the employment of women are con­
cerned would not be what they are to-day.
Mr. S t e w a r t . I would like to ask a question here. Do you make
any distinction in the mentality of the workers? I am asking that
question because, while it is not so serious, except in spots, we have a
very distinct movement in the little country to the south of you here.
In all probability up here, where you have so much room, you have
no morons—you do not have feeble-minded. But we have them




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in all walks of life, and they are being utilized in certain industries
where the machinery is so automatic that it does not require any
more brains to operate it than it does to run an automobile.
As a matter of fact we have organized agencies in the United
States whose business, according to their own advertisements, is to
break strikes by the use of morons. Their claim, which is defensible
from an industrial point of view, is this: If 100 years ago a 10-year
old child could be employed in a cotton mill effectively, why can not
a 25-year old woman, with a 10-year-old mind, be just as effectively
employed ? As a matter of fact, they might be very much more ef­
fective, because machinery is much more simplified. Do you make
the same rate for a moron as you do for an intelligent girl ?
Doctor M ac M il l a n . We have granted permits for mental defectives.
But we have not gone so far as to have an expert psychological in­
vestigation of the intelligence quotient figure. Where we have a girl
who was never beyond the second grade in the public school, and
where the evidence we get is that such a girl is very satisfactory
on some simple job, and we know that they will put the girl on a
simple job, permission is given. These defectives are put at some
simple thing. We attempt to teach such girls certain work. We
then try to teach them millinery, where they have to make each hat
different from the other. In a cjndy factory where they have to
fill candy boxes, the same thing the year round, we give them con­
cessions. We find that the employers are pleased with their steadi­
ness; they are competent, docile workers, and the employer raises
their wages above the common level.
Again we make an exception in the case of the best workers; if 80
per cent of the best workers are earning the minimum wage, the
others take just what they can get. We had a practical case: A girl
came to us who was making $11 a week; she was one of a group of
14 sitting around a table, all getting the same rate. Every other
girl was making $3 or $4 more than she was. If we had insisted
upon that girl’s wages being raised to the minimum, the employer
would have dismissed her. I think a number of the less mentally
equipped are taken care of in that way, without a permit. I think
we have morons in Canada, too.
Mr. S t e w a r t . Let me state the question a little differently. Get­
ting away from the individual, how about the factory, how about
the plant that deliberately starts out to fill its force up with the
feeble-minded? I will take a specific case. There was a strike in
a textile mill in New England. Some 80 girls went out on strike,
only 14 of whom seemed to have a grievance. This agency I spoke
of that advertises to place morons in the place of dissatisfied
workers—which means strikers generally—went up there and
analyzed the case in this way: That the firm was hiring 14 girls who
were too good for the job; and that it is just as bad to hire some­
body who is too good for the job as it is to hire some one who is too
poor for the job. I suppose John Stuart Mill would not agree to
that; maybe Adam Smith would. What they did was to fire the 14
girls, and replace them with morons; and the rest went back. That
was not the case of an individual; it was the policy of the firm.
As you say, morons are docile, they do not become dissatisfied,
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hours, or do anything else, because they never had a job before in
their lives. Of course, if you are going to live strictly up to the
John Stuart Mill idea, the employer is perfectly justified in hiring
the lowest stage of intelligence that can do his work. What do you
do with a firm whose policy is along that line?
Doctor M ac M i l l a n . We have never met anything of that kind
here, or it has not come to us yet. The philosophy we have gone
on and that we have found prevailing among the better employers
of the Province is that they want the best organization they can get.
Mr. S t e w a r t . I am not talking about the better employers; I am
talking about the fellows who want to fill their mills with the cheap­
est labor possible—workers of the lowest intelligence, because they
are docile workmen.
Doctor M ac M il l a n . In Ontario, 80 per cent of them would have
to get the minimum.
General S w eetser . In issuing that order, is it the same all over
the Province? Or does it take into consideration the work in the
city or in the country ?
Doctor M ac M il l a n . It is based on the cost of living. We have
worked out budgets for the different parts of the Province. We
find the cost of clothing is practically the same all over, but the cost
of board and lodging varies considerably. Take a factory order, for
instance, in the city of Toronto; the minimum wage is $12.50. In
four cities next in size or considerably smaller it is $11.50, although
in offices and retail stores it is $12 in those cities. In cities and towns
of between 5,000 and 30,000 population it is $11, and in the little
places it is $10. I have brought down here a sample of this ques­
tion form, if anyone wishes to look at it.
Mr. R o a c h . Miss Anderson, sometime ago a representative of your
department called at our office and made some inquiries about con­
ditions in the tobacco industry. I examined our statistics on em­
ployment and wages in the tobacco industry in New Jersey and found
that we had records from eight plants covering approximately
3,000 workers which showed that the average wage paid was about
$17.50 a week. There is no organization among the workers in the
large machine cigar-making plants in New Jersey so that this wage
of $17.50 a week was not influenced by trade-union organization.
In view of the extremely low minimum-wage rate mentioned by
Doctor MacMillan, it would not seem to me that minimum-wage
legislation possessed any great value for the worker. Unless mini­
mum-wage legislation would establish a wage rate higher than the
normal rate that prevails among unorganized workers it would
seem to me that the effect of this legislation would be to lower
and not to increase wage rates. If it has that effect I am not
in favor of minimum-wage legislation. Last winter I attended a
meeting in New Jersey that was addressed by Mrs. May Murray, who
represented a national association of women opposed to women’s
labor legislation, and she made a strong case against the enactment
of legislation that curtails the natural right of a woman to accept
employment when and where she pleases. I think the economic
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and the need for restrictive legislation has, at least in some measure
disappeared.
Doctor M ac M il l a n . This gentleman has started something. I am
afraid I have not the time to debate it. We make a very sharp dis­
tinction between the minimum wage and the wage that you might
get by a trade-union bargain. The strength of the minimum wage
is that it sets the standard of decent living, with public opinion be­
hind it. If trade-union wages go beyond that, public opinion will
not defend it.
Chairman J o h n s o n . Probably your experience is the same as that
of the United States, that where minimum rates have been established
the general effect has been to raise wage rates above the minimum?
Doctor M ac M i l l a n . Yes.
Chairman J o h n s o n . A s well as to bring the lower rates of wages
up to the minimum?
Doctor M ac M i l l a n . That always happens.
Chairman J o h n s o n . I do not know that there has been any ex­
perience where it has leveled wages down; it has leveled wages up.
It is simply a level of so much, below which wages shall not go.
Miss M a r s h . I may say that the National Consumers’ League has
been investigating the canning industry in Pennsylvania, where there
is no mimimum-wage law and they find the rate is $10.50 per week.
In New Jersey, some comparable wages were found; in New York
City the rate was $12; so that $17 is not the standard.
Doctor M a c M i l l a n . If it were in Ontario, I would suspect some­
thing exceptional about the industry. Another thing is that the
average is unknown in the minimum wage. These tables are avail­
able for certain purposes; but no table can show the variation be­
tween one worker and another in the same place and between one
plant and another. These variations are great, even between two
similar and adjacent plants. The whole scheme of the minimum
wage lies right there.
Miss S w e t t . I wonder if the $17 wage affected tobacco and other
workers?
Doctor M ac M i l l a n . I could not say that. I took it that it cov­
ered the whole industry.
A D elegate . A $12.50 minimum, from our point of view, would
be ridiculously low. I would not say that such legislation would be
considered a bit helpful.
Miss S w e t t . We have the unskilled worker in the tobacco industry,
the stemmer and the sorter. Their wages have been materially raised
by the minimum in Wisconsin.
Mr. F ester . One tobacco factory within 40 miles of the city of
Toronto employs 300 women. By reason of the minimum-wage reg­
ulations of Ontario, it increased its wage average 15 per cent. Of
course conditions may be different here from what they are in the
State of New Jersey. It required a considerable readjustment of
wages in that establishment, with some 300 woman employees.
Chairman J o h n s o n . I understand that Mr. Swift of the National
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like to have a little more discussion on the minimum wage, we can
take 5 or 10 minutes. I think we should hear from Mr. Stapells,
who is the employers’ representative on the minimum wage board.
Mr. S tapells . I am prone to suggest when called upon, that we
have two talkers on our board among the male representatives, and
one worker. You have heard the talkers; I am simply the worker.
I would like to say, however, that there are no two men who have
done more, in my opinion, on minimum-wage work on this continent,
than Doctor MacMillan, on the one hand and Mr. Fester on the
other. Doctor MacMillan has had a wide experience; and he has
made a very careful study of this problem. I have not had the
privilege of knowing many of your minimum-wage experts in the
United States, but I know that as far as Canada is concerned he is
the greatest minimum-wage expert in this country.
Mr. Fester
is a labor man; he has had experience with labor questions all his
life; and, as Doctor MacMillan has said, when it is necessary
to settle some problem with the employer, Mr. Fester goes out and
represents the Province of Ontario in that contest and it is compli­
mentary to his tact and judgment that he invariably succeeds in
settling the dispute to the satisfaction of both the employers and the
en
thought— perhaps not the only
thought—is that if there is a question of doubt involved, the benefit
of that doubt goes to the employees. We have found that the em­
ployer has said that if there is a doubt, give the benefit of the doubt
to the girl, because the girl gets a minimum of $12.50, and is more
entitled to the benefit of the doubt than the employer, more than a
successful one at any rate.
Mr. S m i t t e n . Does your minimum-wage legislation apply to men
as well as to women ?
Doctor M ac M il l a n . It does, in British Columbia. In Alberta
there is a provision in the factories act which requires the same rate
to be paid to males as is fixed by the minimum wage board for
females.
Mr. S m it t e n . In Alberta, the legislation is slightly different from
the legislation in Ontario, in that our board is a legislative board.
The board is only responsible for making the order; the bureau of
labor administers it. The connecting link is made by myself acting
as secretary of the board.
I was interested in listening to the statements of the gentleman
from New Jersey as to the effect of minimum-wage legislation upon
wages. In making our orders, the board reached a tentative decision
as to the rates they were going to establish. We had collected in the
office, data covering wage rates of most of the large concerns in the
Province. When I say “large,” they are small in comparison with
those in Ontario and with those in some of the States. In establish­
ing the rates we had in mind, we found that 35 per cent of the female
employees were going to enjoy increases. We also found that 80 per
cent of the staff of one concern were going to enjoy increases, while
across the street in a plant in the same industry only 5 per cent of
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We have come across some peculiarities in connection with our
administration. The bulk of our difficulties have come from the
small establishment, particularly the restaurant and the ice cream
parlor, and the bulk of our adjustments are made for those places.
We found on occasion an employer who had issued a check for the
correct minimum wage and had cashed it in the till, there having
been a discount for cash. In one or two other instances we have
found pay sheets signed by the employees—a receipt for wages—
where the amount signed for was greater than the amount actually
received. Of course that does not go on very long before we get the
information.
But in regard to disciplining an employer for carrying on tactics
of that description, we find there is great difficulty. The court has
in effect said: Here, you were not compelled to sign for what you
were not getting, and you have to suffer for what you have done.
Our experience has not been just in line with the experience of the
Ontario board, particularly in our highest court. The appellate
court has taken the position that minimum-wage legislation is an
interference with the individual liberty of the subject to make a
contract. Wherever any technicality of law will permit, they are
going to rule against us.
We started out by giving authority to the board to make differ­
ences in minimum rates as to industries. In our Province, how­
ever, the board applied the same minimum to an industry throughout
the entire Province.
We found in going into the question of the cost of living in the
smaller places in comparison with the larger places, that while in
some of the smaller places the cost might be lower, in some of the
others it might be slightly higher, and in fairness to the minimum
wage and the minimum cost of subsistence we had to establish a
uniform minimum rate throughout the Province. In regard to that,
the court said that the board had not definitely stated on its orders
the particular location where the order should apply, and the order
was declared ultra vires. Again we had to amend our law. I believe
we now have, as far as our our law is concerned, one which gives to
the board more power than is given to a board in any other place I
know of, and that when its orders are made they are a little more
difficult for the courts to get around than they were previously.
Miss S w e t t . How long has your court taken that attitude; is it
recent ?
Mr. S m it t e n . Eight from the inception of the orders. I was
interested in the question of the application of the order fixing the
number of hours, as discussed by Doctor MacMillan. We found in
the initial stages certain difficulties, particularly in our laundries.
Practically all of our orders provided for a maximum of 48 hours
a week. A few of our laundries did work 48 hours, and they took
the position that as far as they were concerned they would pay a rate
which conformed to 48. The board, having authority under the
law, made provision for deduction by stating in its orders that
wherever the regular hours were in excess of 40 but did not exceed
48, the minimum wage should be paid to a female worker who worked
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hours were less than 40, then the proportion of minimum wage paid
should hold the same relationship to the regular minimum as the
hours worked bore to 40.
Chairman J o h n s o n . There is one question which Miss Schutz
suggested on the program; we might consider that now. It is,
“ Shall tips be recognized as part of the minimum wage?” You
have, in Ontario, occupations where the tipping system prevails,
Doctor MacMillan?
Doctor M ac M il l a n . We do not recognize it.
Doctor P a t t o n . I would have liked to ask Doctor MacMillan to
make a general statement regarding the philosophy of the minimum
wage, but there is no time for that. What we have heard in the
United States as one of the theoretical arguments against a mini­
mum wage is a double-headed statement that either the minimum
wage would be so low when established that it would do nobody any
good, or, if it were high enough to benefit the women it would neces­
sarily mean that they would be discharged. We have had evidence
that the first is not true—that the minimum wage, although low, has
resulted in raising the wages not only of the lowest paid workers but
also of those above the prescribed minimum wage.
I would be glad to hear Doctor MacMillan give his opinion on the
question, Does the minimum wage result in the dismissal or discharge
of workers in Canada?
Doctor M ac M il l a n . There may have been an occasional case, but
none of any consequence. Where one goes out, another comes in.
It has not fulfilled any of those forebodings. It has not meant that
the minimum becomes the maximum.
In our statement of 1927 we show the effect on the higher wages.
It has been said in opposition that the minimum would become the
maximum, that if the employers had to increase the lower-paid
employees they would reduce the higher rates. But, it has jacked
them all up—the higher as well as the lower rates have increased.
It is the protection of a recognized standard of living for a class
of worker which is economically helpless.
Everybody helps in conciliatory ways. As Mr. Smitten knows,
the first minimum-wage law which was passed in Alberta was a
fiat-rate law; then it was altered in several different ways. It is not
in averages where the minimum wage tells. Mr. Roach talks about
$17 a week. Is there any place where you will find a uniform rate
for all women in a plant? In our 10 years’ survey in Ontario we
have found only one or two plants that did. If it is an average
wagg of $17.50, it is an exceptional thing. I know a little about New
Jersey, and I know there are women in that State who are not
getting $17.50 a week. Two factories in the city of Toronto drew
their employees from the same market and made the same competi­
tive product, yet in one factory the wages were double those in the
other. Last year we found two factories making a certain product;
one was in the eastern part, and the other in the western part of the
Province. In the west the lowest wage was higher than the highest
wage in the east, and it was the more profitable of the two factories
That is the kind of thing we have to face. It is extraordinary, the
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yards of a very large factory, where we found one small group
earning below the level of the others. We pointed this out to the
manager, and he corrected the matter at once.
This standard of living is generally approved by the community—
that a woman should have respectable clothing and enough to eat.
Our work is to help a helpless class. Trade-unionism has protected
certain groups, but it has not reached the masses. In Ontario we set
out to do that, and we have succeeded.
Miss A nderson . May I say a little about the claim in regard to the
minimum wage ?
The District of Columbia set, under the minimum-wage law, per­
haps one of the highest minimum wages in the United States—from
$15 in the bindery trades to $16 in the clerical and restaurant trades.
When the rates were put into effect the bindery women, who were
organized into trade-unions, had a minimum wage of $9 a week;
when the $15 rate was set it boosted them up to $15; and they now
have a minimum wage in the District of Columbia, through their
organization, of $19 a week. But the first boost in their organiza­
tion was through the minimum-wage law.
Then the restaurants, the laundries, and the clerks were set a wage
rate of $16; many of those women were getting $9 and $10 a week. It
was a fact that probably the majority, at least one-half of them, got a
boost of from $5 to $6 a week under the minimum-wage law; On
the day that the Supreme Court declared the minimum-wage law
unconstitutional in the District of Columbia, one of the hotels, which
was paying $12.50 a week and giving the employees certain meals,
immediately cut its wages to $6.
There is no question that the minimum-wage law raised the
pay of the workers. That is what it was designed to do.
In the District of Columbia, which is small, we are able to get
good records, and we find that when the wage was applied to the
lower-paid employees the maximum came up all the time—more and
more women got above the maximum. That is a fact—it is on
record.
In New Jersey, where we made the minimum wage our study—I
think it was in 1923—we found that women in that State were getting
a little above $12 a week. I think I am fair in saying that. That
took in all the employees, so far as I made a study of it. It was
a sampling study; and, of course, we took good employers and bad.
The median wage was something over $12 a week. Now, an average
wage means nothing, because we never know where the average starts
or where it leaves off; so, we never have the average wage, but we
have the median, where one-half are paid above that sum and Gnehalf of them are paid below that sum. So far as minimum-wage
legislation in the United States is concerned, it did help the lowerpaid women in the lower-paid industries.
Miss P eterson . Anyone who is interested in securing information
appertaining to whether or not the minimum becomes the maximum,
will, I think, be very much interested in some information which has
been compiled by Mrs. Edson, of the Industrial Welfare Commission
of California. She has compared the proportion of women in mer­
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of the States in which she drew a comparison. In California they
have a minimum wage of $16, and for a period of years there was a
very noticeable increase in the minimum wage to over $30. I am
quite sure she will be glad to send the information to anyone who
desires it.
Reports on Investigation of Home Work
Chairman J o h n s o n . We will now take up the discussion on home
work. I am sorry that Miss Carr is not here; she was to give a
report of the investigations on home work in Pennsylvania. We
have reports from several States where there are regulations regard­
ing home work; and Miss Matthews, of the Children’s Bureau, Miss
Anderson and Miss Peterson, of the Women’s Bureau, who have
directed studies relating to home work, are here, we might take
about 15 or 20 minutes for discussion of home work.
Miss M a t t h e w s . May we hear something from Canada on that
subject? Do the Provinces have home work, and if they have it, do
they regulate it?
Mrs. G u r n e t t . In Ontario, in a city with more than 50,000 popula­
tion, under section 52 of the act, an inspector has to go into a home
and give a permit. That would include Toronto, Hamilton, Ottawa,
and London.
Chairman J o h n s o n . What lines are covered by home work regu­
lations ?
Mrs. G u r n e t t . Only clothing—wearing apparel.
Chairman J o h n s o n . It is the same in Massachusetts. Our home­
work regulations are limited to wearing apparel. The establishment
of trade boards came about through the conditions in sweated indus­
tries and home work in New England.
Mr. F ester . We made a survey, looking into the question of home
workers, for the purpose of establishing a minimum wage, but we
found so little that we did not think it was worth while. It may
become a problem some time in the future, and if it does, we will
deal with it, because we have ample power.
There has been so little home work in Ontario that we have not
dealt with it.
Mrs. G u r n e t t . According to the annual report of the department
of factory inspection, about 1,000 permits were issued to home
workers last year.
Chairman J o h n s o n . Wisconsin applies a minimum wage to home
work. Miss Swett, will you tell us about that ?
Miss S w e t t . Prior to 1921 our home work law was similar to most
laws regulating home work, it dealt mainly with the health of the
worker and the consumer; that is, the place where the home work
was done was required to be sanitary. We thought that the danger
was to the consumer, through the spread of disease. However,
the big evil was in the long hours of labor and the employment of
small children. It had not become a big problem in our city [Mil­
waukee], because not so much home work was done there; but we
wanted to tackle the problem before it got beyond control.
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There are two kinds of permits which apply to all manufacturers
sending out goods to be altered, manufactured, or repaired in a
home, one of which is issued by the industrial commission, and
permits the manufacturer to send out home work. Before he gets
that he must satisfy the commission as to his compliance with the
labor laws in his plant. Then we must also be satisfied that the
rate he intends to pay his help is such that it will be the same
whether the work is done in the home or at the plant. It is an
easy matter to test the rate by the pay rolls if the same work is done
in the plant as in the home; but if the same work is not done in the
plant, we bring a number of the home workers to the plant. Some­
times some of those the manufacturer intends to employ at home
work are among those who have been employed in the plant.
The other day I gave a test to 15 workers and found out that
the rate was correct; in fact, it more than satisfied our test as to the
adequacy of the rate.
We say that if 75 per cent of the workers can earn 3 cents more
than the minimum wage set, then the rate is considered adequate.
I f anybody falls below the given minimum rate per hour, then the
trouble is with the worker, not with the rate. This test which
was made on the home-work rate showed that 87y2 per cent of the
women made 3 cents more than the minimum rate per hour. We
had no hesitancy in letting that firm have a permit. This was a
retest of a rate, because there had been some complaints that the
women were earning only a few cents per hour. The test did not
show that, so we felt that the permit could be continued. I f we
had found that the rate had fallen below the minimum, the permit
would have been canceled.
We will not issue permits to children to work at home work. We
have made the employer responsible for seeing that there are no
children employed in home work. When employers find that out,
they often give up the notion of having home work, because they
do not want to guarantee that the children in the home will not be
employed at such work.
So far it has not been a big problem with us. I do not know how
a law similar to ours in a city the size of New York or Philadelphia
would work out, or whether the best thing to do would be to forbid
home work entirely in cities of that size. I know some feel that
way. We have not felt that we need to prohibit home work, because
we are able to control it.
Chairman J o h n s o n . Y ou may be interested to learn that the
Massachusetts commission this year voted that the minimum rates
should apply to home workers as well as to workers in factories.
Previously that had not been so. The National Consumers’ League
has always been interested in the subject of home work.
Miss M a r s h . We withdrew from that field some years ago.
Chairman J o h n s o n . Miss Matthews, will you tell us something
about the study of the Children’s Bureau relating to home work?
Miss M a t t h e w s . The Children’s Bureau has not made any study
in that department since our meeting in Paterson. Everything we
have done has already come before the members of this association.
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I understand that the Women’s Bureau has been getting together
more recent material than that.
Miss P e ter so n . We have now prepared a bibliography on the
subject, and Miss Brown, who has been doing the work, has brought
together a great deal of information on certain studies. New York
has made a very thorough study of the subject as it relates to work in
that city. We have had the privilege of seeing a copy of the report in
typewritten form, and it is now in the hands of the printers. New
York will give a copy to anyone who asks for it.
There is also a report from Pennsylvania; and there is a section of
Miss Matthews’ report contained in the proceedings of this conven­
tion two years ago. We have brought them together, and that pub­
lication will be available to anyone who is interested.
Just to summarize: We have tried to keep the subject alive, be­
cause we know that home work is going to be a great problem in the
future. It is increasing in great strides; employers all the time, are
seeking to get work done cheaper than they can get it done now, and
the underbidding in factories is very serious.
Miss S w e t t . I do not think that that is true of all employers.
There are apparently reputable hosiery companies who do not want
to take advantage of a situation which is only temporary. In Mil­
waukee the home-work rates were very high; women made higher
wages than they could earn in a plant. I can see where an employer
would not want to increase the size of a plant to accommodate work­
ers, when it is only a temporary situation. I do not mean to say that
all employers have had that in mind. I think that the main urge is to
get work done cheaply.
I told about only one kind of permit. We still have the employer
who gets a license from the board; he gets a license for the premises,
for which he pays a fee. That is taken care of by local boards of
health—they make the inspections and grant the licenses.
Doctor P a t t o n . I am not particularly concerned with home work.
In a general way I know that in New York City the growth of home
work in recent years has been very rapid. It is done of course for
economic reasons, not solely because of the lower wages. In New
York there is no semblance of minimum-wage regulations of any
sort. There is, however, a constant state of chaos in the clothing in­
dustry in New York City, among manufacturers of certain kinds of
cheap clothing. Rochester makes high grade men’s clothing. In
New York City for many years there has been an attempt to bring
about a state or peace between the union workers and the employers;
the more reputable employers joined the organization, erected fac­
tories, and had reasonable conditions as to air space, ventilation,
toilet facilities, and all the things that go with modern factories.
Now, because of intense competition, many employers refuse to join
that organization, and instead resort to home work, not because the
rate is lower, but because the work is done at the home. They escape
the structural and the maintenance requirements in factories. If a
manufacturer gets an order for 10,000 blouses of a certain sort, he
may put up a sign in his window that he wants employees to make
those blouses, and they may take the goods away to their homes.
He gets the work done at a lower rate and he saves the expense of
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great. There are also the structural and the maintenance regulations,
which altogether add a burden upon the manufacturer who carries
on a business. He is placed in competition with the fly-by-night
operator. In New York, the boards of health do inspect premises so
far as contagious diseases and all that sort of thing are concerned.
The department of labor inspects tenements before it issues licenses.
When we have so many hundreds of separate homes, it is impossible,
unless we have a home-work inspector on the job all the time, to keep
any track of what is going on. Personally I think the home-work
situation in New York has become very much worse in recent years,
and I am not at all optimistic about developments in the future.
Although this is entirely beside the point, I can not see why any
manufacturer wants to open up a place of business in New York
City. Why doesn’t he go out where there is more space, more air,
and so on? Workers, however, prefer to live in New York. I
asked a young woman where she was going to spend her vacation, if
she was going to the Adirondacks. She told me that she had never
been 50 miles from New York City, and could not understand why
anybody should wish to get so far from New York City that they
couldn’t get back the same night. That is one explanation of why
our factory workers stay there. It is all part of what appears to
me to be a vicious circle. I would like to be more hopeful and more
sanguine about the home-work situation in New York than I am
at present.
Miss P eter so n . It is not confined to the territory around New
York City, because with the use of automobile trucks, partly-made
garments can be carried many miles. I remember being in Bridgeort one day when two or three large trucks brought work from
few York to Bridgeport to be finished.
Doctor P a t t o n . Some of the very largest shirtmakers make only
the neckbands.
Mrs. G u r n e t t . In Ontario there is a great deal of crocheting of
babies’ jackets done, and so forth, also beading of dresses. One
thing I found last year that I had not noticed before was that the
women were wearing finer handkerchiefs in their bracelets. They
were about six inches square; they were made by the Swiss em­
broiderers and sent out to be finished. Many girls are employed, but
none of them under 14.
Our adolescent act takes care of the child between 14 and 16;
during the holidays they do not need a permit. The pay was mis­
erable ; I think it was $1.15, and out of that the women had to pay
carfare to get the goods, and back again. One woman said that she
made 72 baby jackets for $10, and she was paying that $10 a month
on her washing machine.
We go into the homes to find out what conditions are. I f we
find a house placarded for measles, diphtheria, or scarlet fever, we
immediately notify the board of health, and they send out and burn
up the wool, according to what the regulations are. We also notify
the firm which has sent out the work. We have found many work­
ers also on dresses and garters, but the making of dresses and the
crocheting seem to be the worst-paid and the slowest jobs.

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Chairman J o h n s o n . Has Mr. Ainsworth anything to say on be­
half of Pennsylvania ?
Mr. A in s w o r t h . I do not believe that there is anything that I can
say that would be important at this time. I regret that there is
not a represenative of the women’s bureau here to give you first­
hand information regarding the Pennsylvania method of handling
the home-work situation.
Our general experience is very much the same as that of Wis­
consin, and our method of handling the problem, with the exception
of the minimum-wage feature, is very much the same. A large
part of the home work is sent into Pennsylvania by nonresident
firms, and that is the phase of the work which gives us the most
trouble. We have had very fine cooperation from Pennsylvania
firms, and the regulations were well supported during the public
hearings by manufacturers not engaged in home work.
The method of procedure has been to consider the home as an
extension of the factory, and every factory regulation, the women’s
law, and child labor law that are applied to normal factory opera­
tions are applied to the homes in which home work is carried on. We
do not consider home work as an evil, but as a beneficial industry, if
properly regulated. We believe we have been successful.
How to Cope with the Hazards of Juvenile Employment
Chairman J o h n s o n . I am very sorry that Mr. Antonin Galipeault,
Minister of Labor of the Province of Quebec, is not present to tell
us how to meet the hazards due to juvenile employment. I was very
much interested when I saw that question on the program. One of
the methods attempted in some of the States to protect children is
to provide for extra compensation to children who are illegally em­
ployed, making it something which the employers can not escape. I
think Miss Marsh can tell us something about that.
Miss M a r s h . The National Consumers’ League for the past several
years has been studying the question of compensation to injured
children and minors. We have been concerned with what minors
actually get when they are injured, whether or not they are legally
employed.
There are seven States which prescribe additional compensation
for minors injured while employed in violation of the child labor
law. The oldest is Wisconsin, which prescribes double compensation
if the child is employed without a permit, and treble if employed in
a prohibited occupation. New York has a double-compensation pro­
vision, so have New Jersey, Michigan, and Maryland. Illinois and
Missouri add 50 per cent. Some of the States provide that the em­
ployer can not insure against this risk; but in case the employer
is insolvent and has insurance, the insurance carrier is required to
pay the additional compensation.
Wisconsin, from its recent experience is strongly of the opinion
that this provision gives strength to the enforcement of the child
labor laws, particularly the section prohibiting employment of chil­
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What children actually get when they are legally employed, again
a matter of State regulation. In 14 States, if the injury is a
permanent one, such as the loss of a limb, compensation is based not
on the wage of the minor but on his earning capacity at 21 years.
That is arrived at in a number1of ways. Some laws simply provide
that a minor’s estimated wage shall be determined by the wage of an
adult in the occupation in which he was injured. Wisconsin,
I believe, gives the maximum for permanent injury; that is, if a
child has lost a hand or any portion of his hand, his compensation is
based, not on his wage, but on the assumption that when he reached
manhood he would have been able to earn a sum which would have
entitled him to the maximum. The rest of the States base their
compensation on the actual wages of the minor. We have been try­
ing to interest these States in changing their standard and adopting
the measure that the 14 States now have. Minnesota and Idaho made
that change this year.
In studying the State reports we find that there is a sharp up­
ward curve in the number of injuries, particularly of a permanent
character, occurring to minors after the sixteenth birthday. I hap­
pen to have a few figures here this morning. In Illinois, in 1928,
out of a total of 954 injured minors under 18 only 93 were under 16,
or approximately 10 per cent; 347 were minors 16 years of age, and
514 were minors of 17. In reports from other States that same sharp
curve occurs.
There are more children over 16 being injured because of the
dropping off of protective legislation at that age. We hope that
the near future will see States, whose child-labor laws accept 16
as the maximum for the prohibition of employment in hazardous
occupations, increase the number of such employments closed to
minors under 18. We also hope, as I said before, that for perma­
nent injuries they will adopt the provision that compensation shall
be based on the earning power at age 21 and not on actual wages.
Chairman J o h n s o n . We would like to hear whether there are any
Canadian Provinces that have such a provision ?
Mr. S m it t e n . In Alberta the maximum amounts continue for life.
Mr. A in s w o r t h . A t the last session of the Pennsylvania Legisla­
ture two bills were introduced by agencies entirely outside our de­
partment. One was to call for double compensation in case of
injury to an illegally employed minor, the other was to call for
normal compensation according to the general provisions of the
compensation law. The one for double compensation got out of
committee, but the one for single compensation died on the floor
of the house. It is interesting to know that at this session of our
legislature we had a concerted drive for raising the standards on
the part of groups interested in the question. It was the first time
we ever had such a drive, except for the adoption of the women’s
law. It is a very encouraging thing to look forward to in the history
of our State.
Miss P e ter so n . I would like to ask whether or not a girl of 16
who has had her finger nipped off by a punch press is protected in
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to minors; and whether any of these States protect her, if it is con­
sidered legal employment. Can a girl of 16 be legally employed on
a punch press?
Mr. A t n s w o r t h . She can not in Pennsylvania.
Miss S w e t t . I think those specifically listed apply to boys, not to
girls. The girls get the short end of it under that provision. A
girl is not paid on what she is earning at 16 but on what her prob­
able earnings would be at age 21. Take a laundry worker: A laun­
dry worker does not earn $30 a week, but that would be what her
probable earnings would be. You may have a laundry worker
whose aim was something else. In Wisconsin we had a girl of about
16 who was working on a machine and she was trained to become
a stenographer. We did not estimate her earnings at 21, because
she was only earning money in vacation time to go on with her
commercial education.
Chairman J o h n s o n . It might be interesting to know that the
Massachusetts child-labor committee is making a study of accidents
to minors, especially to minors illegally employed, considering in
that connection the possibility of introducing legislation later on
as a means of checking illegal employment.
Miss S w e t t . If you are going to have double or treble liability,
along with it you must have a strict enforcement of the law, or you
are not going to do the child much good. You will have to check
up the accidents and the ages of the children, or you are not going
to do much good to the children by having that feature in the law.
You must teach the employers how to comply with the child-labor
laws, and they will do it.
[Meeting adjourned.]




THURSDAY, JUNE 6—AFTERNOON SESSION
Gen. E. Leroy Sweetser, Commissioner Massachusetts Department of Labor and
Industries, Presiding

Chairman S w eetser . Factory inspection is something that all
heads of departments are very much interested in, because we rely
upon our factory inspectors to give us the results of facts which
exist in our districts or in our States. They are the eyes for the
department head; they are like the patrols in the Army, we learn
from their reports conditions as they exist in the establishments they
inspect; and a great deal depends, it seems to me, upon the type of
factory inspectors we have, and the kind of instruction, education,
and training we give them while they are in the service, in order to
bring about the results and to secure the information our depart­
ments desire.
I am very much interested in factory inspection, especially in the
promotion of safety work. I think the most important work of the
department of labor and industries, as it is constituted in Massa­
chusetts and in most of the industrial States, is industrial safety.
It reaches everyone, not only those actively engaged in industry,
but those in the homes; it affects the wives and children, and it
affects us as individuals in a State or a Province. I consider the
most important work of the department of labor and industries in
my State that of protecting workmen, workwomen, and minors
from injury and suffering occasioned while engaged in industry.
That work in our State (and I suppose it is the same in all States)
is accomplished mainly through our factory inspectors.
Part of our work is safety education—teaching not only the
employer and the employee, but the public as well, the need of safety
practices and protection from industrial injury and industrial
disease.
In Massachusetts we count an occupational disease as an industrial
accident— an injury in industry. While w’e are proud of our in­
dustrial accomplishments and our big plants and our factories, we
can not forget the accidents and the injuries; we must protect the
worker from his own carelessness. One method of accomplishing
this is through our factory inspection, while another is through one
of the various safety promotion and safety education programs.
We have delegates here from the State of Ohio. I have been
particularly interested in Ohio lately, because they have been send­
ing to me reports of their safety work and their safety contests.
They are desirous of cutting down, this year, the number of their
accidents.
We are fortunate in having Mr. W. T. Blake, the director of the
department of industrial relations of Ohio, present. He will tell
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us something about the “ Promotion of safety education through
State departments of labor,” a subject in which we are all vitally
interested.
Mr. B l a k e . I intimated to your presiding officer that I approached
this assignment with some misgivings because I had been a State
official only since January 14th. Fortunately for me, however, Mr.
Miles, of the division of statistics and employment agencies, Mr.
Evans, our superior of the division of actuarial accounting, and
Doctor Obetz, of the safety and hygiene department, have also come.
Because I think it may be of interest to you, I would like to say that
Doctor Obetz gave his personal attention to the inspection of the
Cleveland clinic disaster ; that Mr. Miles, a native of Canada, during
the years he has been officially connected with the division of stastistics and employment agencies, has made a real contribution to the
State of Ohio; and that Mr. Evans is considered in our State, and
in other States I believe, to be an expert in his line of determining
risks and of fixing premiums to meet those risks. I mention these
gentlemen just informally, so that if this paper should be disap­
pointing, you may refer to them for information along the lines with
which they are identified.
Governor Cooper asked me to bring to you his greeting and his
tremendous interest in the work that this group, individually and
collectively, has done, and is doing, for the various Commonwealths
and districts which you represent.
Promotion of Safety Education Through State Departments of Labor
By W illiam T. B lake , Director Department of Industrial Relations, Ohio

The alleviation of suffering, the conservation of man power, and
the preservation of economic resources are the principles underlying
accident-prevention work in the industries of Ohio, as carried on by
the department of industrial relations, its various inspection bureaus,
and the industrial commission of the State under the immediate
direction of its division of safety and hygiene.
Inspection work in the industries of Ohio has been carried on
for many years by the various bureaus operating under the immediate
direction of the department of industrial relations and splendid
work has been accomplished in the way of inducing employers to in­
stall proper safeguards for the preservation of life and limb of the
workers.
Some years after the adoption of workmen’s compensation the
employers and workers of the State realized that, if it be true that
more than 90 per cent of accidents ate preventable, it was the course
of wisdom to carry on an additional safety campaign in Ohio indus­
tries with a view to eliminating accidents which were unprofitable
for both. The culmination of this idea was the organization of the
division of safety and hygiene and it entered the fight against in­
dustrial mishaps with the express purpose of appealing to the human
element largely responsible for accidents, as well as supplying the
incentive for the installation of mechanical safeguards and the en­
couragement of safe practices. To defray the expenses of this work
a constitutional amendment set aside 1 per cent of the premiums
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The slogan of the industrial commission, “ Safety is better than
compensation,” exemplifies recognition of the fact that compensation
was in no sense designed as a substitute for wages. No employee
who is the victim of a lost-time accident can escape inroads on his
income. The law and resultant benefits were designed simply to pro­
vide against dependency on the part of the injured or the families
of those who might be victims of fatal accidents. Thus it will be
readily apparent that no worker in Ohio industry can hope to profit
by being on the compensation roll. On the other hand, industrial
accidents are equally unprofitable to the employer. Compensation
and medical expense are only a small part of the economic loss he
sustains. Accidents necessitate the substitution of unskilled help and
are demoralizing to personnel and retard production, all factors in
determining whether business is conducted at a profit or at a loss.
After years of surveys, statisticians of national repute have ar­
rived at the conclusion that the indirect costs to the employer, of
industrial accidents, are four times those of the direct costs. On this
basis it is estimated that accidents in industry cost Ohio employers
in 1928 the stupendous sum of over $90,000,000. This does not take
into consideration a conservatively estimated loss of over $5,500,000
in wages to workers.
The tribute levied against the ranks of Ohio workers annually is
equally as startling and far more important from a humanitarian
standpoint than the monetary loss. In 1928 a total of 229,233 injury
and occupational-disease claims were filed with the industrial com­
mission. Of this number 1,108 were fatalities, 27 were permanently
and totally disabled, and 2,023 workers lost some member or mem­
bers of their bodies. The havoc is more frightful than that wrought
in war. Last year alone Ohio workers lost 186 eyes, 44 arms, 31
hands, 30 legs, 9 feet, 1,590 whole fingers, 737 parts of fingers, and
76 toes. A total of 53,847 workers lost an average of 27.3 days’ time,
34,727 lost an average of 3.8 days’ time and 137,501 received minor
injuries requiring medical attention; while 35,807, or 15.6 per cent,
of all injuries resulted in infection.
The problem of reducing this heavy toll is the deep concern of the
department of industrial relations, its various inspection bureaus,
the Industrial Commission of Ohio, and the division of safety and
hygiene.
The last-named is an educational safety agency engaged in the work
of attempting to inculcate the spirit of safety consciousness into the
minds of both employers and workers. It exercises no regulatory
functions and issues no mandatory orders, this being the province
of the State agencies having to do with various phases of industrial
inspection. Its safety survey service, given without cost or obliga­
tion, is purely suggestive and designed to appeal to humanitarian
instincts and economic interest. Periodically it issues bulletins and
posters emphasizing the safety message, and these are available
without cost to any employer interested in the welfare of his em­
ployees and in the maintenance of the margin of his own profits.
The system is cooperative and inspires confidence. It is idealistic as
well as practical and appeals with equal effectiveness to the executive
and to the man on the job; and the mutuality of that appeal makes
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levels prejudices, engenders good will, and advances humanity a long
stride toward that ultimate goal of the common brotherhood of man.
Since the entry of the human element into industry, few of us
would be sufficiently hardened to say we do not believe in safety
from a humane standpoint; but there are still many employers who
are not thoroughly sold on the idea that it is profitable, and who
still are unable to see further than the original expense of providing
the necessary safeguards for protecting the lives and limbs of their
employees. On this point there is neither the time nor the necessity
for specious argument. Let the facts speak for themselves.
The Buick Motor Car Co. saves $70,000 a year by safety work;
the Eastman Kodak Co. reduced its accident costs from $35,000 a
year to $3,500 a year; the American Car & Foundry Co. gets back
$1.70 for every dollar it puts into safety; and the United States
Steel Corporation reports $14.60 return for every $9.70 spent for
safety.
In our own State—Ohio—we find some amazing results from
safety efforts which are properly organized and systematized in
plants that keep at it eternally instead of spasmodically.
The Columbia cement plant division of the Pittsburgh Plate Glass
Co., at Zanesville, worked a total of 1,094,070 man-hours without
a lost-time accident, having a clear record of 473 days; and the
Ironton plant of the Alpha Portland Cement Co. is well into its third
year of no lost-time accidents.
The Hamilton Foundry & Machine Co. reduced its average annual
wage loss from $13.80 in 1927 to $8.12 in 1928, despite a greater ac­
cident exposure.
The sheet-mill department of the Armco plant, at Middletown,
with an average of 1,037 men employed, went 88 days without a lost­
time accident, while the maintenance department with 637 men
went 152 days.
Since the inauguration of safety work in 1924, the Indiana, Colum­
bus & Eastern Traction Co. increased its mileage per accident 7,529
miles.
The American Can Co.’s Toledo Plant, with 217 punch presses in
use decreased its accidents 4?8 per cent in 1928 and has operated
more than two years without a single amputation.
The Ashtabula works of the American Fork & Hoe Co. went eight
months with one lost-time accident.
The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., Akron, made 33.9 per cent re­
duction in accidents for the first 10 months of 1928 and estimates
workers saved $70,000 in wages as the result of safety efforts. In
October, 1928, 11,140 employees of this company went through the
month without a lost-time accident.
The American Bridge Co., Canton, went 348 consecutive days
without a lost-time accident; and the efficacy of safety work is
shown by the fact that the number of days worked per day of dis­
ability was 78 in 1924, 69 in 1925, 471 in 1926, and 2,027 in 1928.
Hundreds of similar records of plants that have taken up safety
work seriously might be cited; but those mentioned from widely
separated sections of the State should be sufficient to show that safety
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good business and gives returns in dollars and cents as well as in the
increased amity it inspires among employers and workers.
Industrial accident-prevention work is closely allied with public
safety. The safe man in the shop is apt to be the safe man on the
street or in the home; and the inspiration he gets through the edu­
cational safety efforts of the State and shop committees is calcu­
lated to find reflection in the attitude of his family and friends
toward the problems of universal safety. Viewed from any angle,
the perpetual effort for accident reduction in Ohio industries is well
worth the time and money devoted to it; and while the coveted
millennium in preventive measures may be far into the future, there
are manifold evidences that the leaven is working and that the day
will come when every employer will associate safety with production
and every worker will realize that safety is an individual responsi­
bility and individually profitable.
The employer who teaches safety in his plant is not only protect­
ing his own personnel and his own profits but he is making safe work­
ers as well, who may pass on and sow the seeds of safety-thought in
other fields of endeavor. It is an endless chain and, no chain being
stronger than its weakest link, every employer is faced with the indi­
vidual responsibility of creating an atmosphere of safety in his own
plant, for his own benefit, for the benefit of his workers, and for the
benefit of other employers who may later claim their services.
Safety is one of the ideals of industry. Its past is useful only as
a basis for comparisons. Practically speaking, it is a thing of the
present. But infinitely more important than the past or the present
is the future of safety in its universal sense. It should be instilled
into the mind of youth in the plastic period of childhood. It should
have a prominent place in the curriculum of every school. Children
should b& persistently taught to care for their own safety and for
the safety of others, so that safety-consciousness may become in­
stinctive with the next generation and the generations to come.
Safety is one of the highest ideals of society, perhaps difficult of
attainment in its fullest sense but equally as gratifying and profitable
as any of the other idealistic motives which prompt us to plan and
strive for the betterment of mankind. It is a personal inspiration,
all-pervading and soul-satisfying, destined to be one of the most
potent influences in the changing fabric of modern life and in shap­
ing the trend of modern industry. It is the spirit of service personi­
fied. It is the will of the Master exemplified. Let us all, therefore,
visualize it, grasp it, and stick to it, making it one of the tenets of
our faith in mankind.
DISCUSSION

Chairman S w e e tse r . I am sure Mr. Blake will be glad to answer
any questions anyone may be prepared to ask him concerning the
State of Ohio. You stated, Mr. Blake, something about $90,000,000
as the cost of safety. Was that for the State of Ohio alone?
Mr. B l a k e . That seems a rather stupendous figure, but it is based
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Chairman S w e etser . For the State of Ohio alone?
Mr. B l a k e . The State of Ohio only.
Chairman S w e etser . It costs $90,000,000 ?
Mr. B l a k e . They save that much. I was rather indiscreet in say­
ing that the expenditures and costs, according to the best figures
compiled by the manufacturers themselves, and according to their
statements, amount to something like $90,000,000 a year; that much
is lost to them by their industrial accidents.
Chairman S w eetser . At the present time?
Mr. B l a k e . Yes.
Mr. S t e w a r t . I suggest to Director Blake that a report of no lost­
time accidents does not mean that there were no accidents. When a
man is hurt so that he can not work at the machine he was working
with, but he is not seriously hurt—nevertheless it is an accident—
a great many firms now put him at something else and he does not
lose any time in a wage sense. That practice, while I am not ob­
jecting to it from a certain point of view, simply knocks our statis­
tics of accidents all out of kilter. We used to get a report of an
accident, where a man lost time for more than one day. Such acci­
dents are still being reported, but they are not being reported when
the men do not lose any time.
Unless we can in some way get into our accident schedules the
idea not only of lost time but of an accident where a man has to be
shifted from his job, we are not getting a full report of accidents.
I have made some investigations into this thing, and I find that the
firms that go an enormous length of time without accidents—when
pinned down, have not gone that length of time without any acci­
dents, but that the men have been shifted to do some other work
without losing any time.
From an accident-prevention point of view, the accident that is not
serious and in which a man can be shifted to some other work is
just as important as the other, because after all the results of any ac­
cident is apt to be another accident. What I mean by that is; if a
man gets one-eighth of his forefinger cut off by a buzz saw, it is only
an accident that it did not take off the whole finger; in other words,
you have two accidents there instead of one.
It sounds well for the concern, it makes less business for the com­
pensation board, and all that sort of thing; if a man is hurt and
does not lose any money, he is not reported to the compensation com­
mission. Even an accident where nobody is hurt at all is important
in the study of accidents and accident prevention. If a grinding
wheel breaks in two, flies across the building, and goes up
through the roof but does not hurt anyone—that is not reported as
an accident. Because it didn’t knock some man’s head off as it went
through is simply another accident; that is, while we may be dazed
at the number of accidents which are reported, I think this system of
shifting a man to another job so that he loses no time is camouflag­
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An accident which hurts nobody, from an accident-prevention
point of view, should be reported just as much as an accident that
does hurt somebody.
Chairman S w eetser . It gives me pleasure now to introduce to you
as the next speaker on this very important subject, Walter Smitten,
commissioner of the bureau of labor, Alberta, who will tell us some­
thing about the promotion of safety education in that Province.
Promotion of Safety Education Through Provincial Departments of
Labor
By W alter S mitten , Commissioner of Labor, Alberta

Being one of the youngest Provinces in the Dominion, and largely
agricultural in character, accident prevention under Government su­
pervision is of recent origin, the Alberta bureau of labor, which pro­
vides for coordinated inspections, being organized less than seven
years.
Manufacturing represents only a small portion of our activities
and provides employment for approximately 12,000 workers, while
distribution provides employment for approximately 25,000.
Our manufacturing establishments are very small, the general
range of employees being from 5 to 50; while our large establish­
ments, of which we have only four, employ approximately 400 each.
The majority of our firms operate in rented premises. These, in
most instances, were constructed for purposes other than those for
which they are now used, and do not permit the creation of ideal
conditions for lighting, ventilation, and safety.
Having in mind the gradual growth of manufacturing industry
under these conditions during the years prior to our organization,
our task can be appreciated. However, the work had to be per­
formed and the methods we adopted can be described under two
general headings: Compulsion and cooperation.
Compulsion.—With a view to an understanding being had of the
causes of accidents from the operation of machinery, an examination
was made of all accident records which revealed that certain types
of machines were the cause of an unduly large number of accidents.
From this information we were able to draft specific regulations pro­
hibiting use of certain types of machines and providing for proper
guards in others. The following will illustrate some of the steps
taken:
1. Jointers in woodworking shops were causing heavy loss of
members. Heads other than cylindrical were prohibited. This has
brought great relief.
2. Eye accidents from operation of emery wheels were very fre­
quent; employers were required to provide goggles which must be
used by operators. Our experience under this has not been so good,
sometimes only one pair of goggles was provided and employees re­
fused to use community goggles; in other cases, where each employee
was supplied with the goggles, they were kept in his tool box and when
they were needed the employee would net take the trouble to go for
them. An ingenious employee in one of our larger shops worked
out a glass guard which could be attached to the machine, which is
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3. The operation of Humphrie, or man-lift elevators, used in
flour mills and grain elevators brought a number of accidents from
two causes; the first was due to the person who rode forgetting to
step off at the top floor, which meant he was thrown off when the
belt reached the top pulley. The second was due to familiarity, the
person desiring to ride would take hold of the handgrip without
ascertaining whether it was the unit with the foot rest and would
invariably be thrown off when an error was made. Our inspectors
worked out two devices which have operated very successfully. For
the first, a tripping device is located 1 foot above the top floor, which
operates if weight is on the foot rest when it reaches that level, auto­
matically stopping belt travel. For the second, a cover for each
handle was provided, hinged to the belt in such a manner that grip­
ping of the wrong handle was impossible. This has been so accept­
able that this type of elevator is now equipped with these devices
when manufactured.
4. Operation of freight and passenger elevators gave us some
concern. Regulations providing for safety devices were put into
operation, which has brought good results. Prior to their adoption
we had at least one fatal accident from operation of elevators each
year; since their adoption over four years ago we have not had a
fatal accident.
5. Protruding set screws, pulleys, and belts received attention, and
employers were required to provide suitable guards.
At the initial stage of our work we met with serious opposition
from employers. We were informed that this was a new Province,
industries were young and struggling; that machinery was secured
from regular manufacturers, and was not made specially for our
Province; that the condition in which it came from the manufac­
turers as to guards was undoubtedly acceptable to State depart­
ments in other localities, and consequently we were imposing an
added burden. This attitude has now largely disappeared and our
inspectors are welcomed at most plants and their advice sought.
We now require plans of buildings to be used for manufacturing
purposes to be submitted to us for approval; and we can now have
provision made for proper lighting, ventilation, exits, and location
of machinery.
We exercise one form of compulsion with some employees. It has
been deemed advisable in connection with certain types of work to
require the person performing the work to pass an examination and
secure a license.
Failure to observe all safety regulations by a licensed workman
may involve suspension or cancellation of his certificate.
Cooperation.—A continued review of accident records revealed
that the majority of accidents were not caused by machinery, but
were due to what is usually termed “ the human element.”
To meet this situation we had to consider the psychology of
employer and employee and endeavor to create an attitude of mind
which would at all times place prevention of accidents first. This
we found was a difficult task and one that could not be accomplished
without the expenditure of considerable time and energy.
One of the first steps taken was to require the establishment of
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sons were employed. This brought results only in those plants
where the foreman or employer took an active interest in the work
of such a committee.
We also turned our attention to an educational campaign with
workmen and employers. To carry this out various methods have
been adopted. Inspectors, on their visits to plants, talk with fore­
men and individual workmen, calling attention to particular haz­
ards; meetings are held with associations of employers and
organizations of workmen. Noon meetings are being held in the
larger plants.
Tabulations are made each month of certain types of accidents
which are considered preventable and a circular is sent to employers
and workmen in the industry affected calling their attention to this,
with a statement of time loss and costs.
Posters are prepared and placed in conspicuous places in the
various industrial establishments.
We are convinced that a large percentage of the accidents which
occur can be prevented, but before we can get to the position where
it can be said that we have reduced accidents to the minimum the
cooperation of employers and workmen must be whole-heartedly
given.
DISCUSSION

Mr. C l a r k e . Mr. Smitten has spoken of a shield in front of the
emery wheel to protect a man’s eyes. In Ontario, we have not
adopted that as part of our specific regulations, but a glass guard
reinforced with metal. We have had a great deal of trouble in days
gone by with wheels breaking, and found it necessary to put a metal
guard over them besides having the glass. We find that the number
of accidents,has been reduced.
There is another thing in regard to punch presses which might
be a good thing to mention. When investigating some accidents on
punch presses last week, we found that some of them had happened
m a very simple way. In one instance, when the man got up to
adjust the timer, he had jumped down and tripped the press and
smashed his finger. We have had to make a saddle for those presses,
instead of having a man come down in the old way.
Miss J o h n s o n . What is the method of making regulations in
Alberta; are they made directly through the board?
Mr. S m it t e n . In making our regulations, we do not have a board;
it is a bureau with one individual in authority. In conjunction with
the inspectors I get the regulations drafted; then I have to get the
lieutenant governor to approve those regulations.
Miss J o h n s o n . I s that done in cooperation with the employers and
the employees?

Mr. S m i t t e n . We discuss it with employees and employers and
make a rough draft first; and we discuss it again with the employers
and employees before we reach the final draft; then we go to the
lieutenant governor for his approval.
Chairman S w eetser . Safety education gives everybody, both
worker and employer, a knowledge not only of safety work but of
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alone, but throughout the district, and teaches means and methods
of preventing accidents. The result is that safety education is
bringing about a habit in the individual of looking out for safety,
just as is done in the Army, where men are drilled so that under
any circumstances they will have the habit of doing that which
they have been taught.
The object of safety education, therefore is to inculcate a safe
habit among the workers.
I don’t want to say too much about Massachusetts, but we evidently
have the same system of reporting accidents as you have in Canada.
We have a department that pays the compensation, while the depart­
ment of labor has the duty of preventing accidents, and the two
boards or departments work very nicely together.
Personally I find in this matter of safety education that the more
we can get the employer and the employee interested in that work,
the better it is; we have succeeded in doing this by interesting them
in safety work and giving them credit for it. We may organize
methods in the department and we may issue propaganda; they
read it; it comes from a State department. But if we can get the
employers and employees to do it themselves, it seems to me we have
accomplished the best results.
Besides the organization of safety committees, using the radio,
the circular, the picture, and other well-known methods, we have
organized three safety councils in Massachusetts, one in the eastern
part, one in the central part, and one in the western part of the State,
located in Boston, in Worcester, and in Springfield. These have been
organized with the help of the department. I am a director in one,
and on the executive committee in the other two. The councils are
doing wonderful work in interesting both the employer and the
employee in the work through the safety meetings which are called
in the different plants. This year they are having a safety contest
among the three councils, and they are sending in monthly reports.
The Boston council has taken an interest in the concerns where the
liability to accident is greater, and each month reports on 155 firms
having 83,578 employees; the council at Springfield reports on 66
firms including 24,372 employees, and the one at Worcester, 44 firms
with 24,950 employees. What I want to call attention to is the
success of the employers doing the safety work themselves, paying for
it themselves, and creating their own enthusiasm, while the depart­
ment does not get any credit. It is the accomplishment of results that
counts. It is bringing about fine educational work among the
industries in our State.
In connection with the safety council in Boston, called the Mas­
sachusetts Safety Council, a few years ago we found, as possibly you
have found, that the largest number of accidents at that time occurred
among our transportation utilities. We had a meeting of the heads
of all the railroads and went to work. To-day transportation does
not contain the largest number of accidents. What I am leading up
to is that the president of the Massachusetts Safety Council is the
president of the elevated railroad in the city of Boston, which shows
the time and interest he is giving to safety work.
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Last year we took up the number of accidents in the building
trades. You know how dangerous those trades are, and how reckless
the men are who work at them. We had a contest among the build­
ing trades of the Commonwealth. It has been very successful. We
got up a circular—I have a copy of it here—showing the construction
of a building; we put that out among all the employees in the build­
ing trades, those in the union trades and all that we could get in
touch with outside the unions. The building trades are pretty well
organized in Massachusetts. We gave prizes in money to the ones
who could find in the picture the things that were wrong, the things
that were dangerous. As a matter of fact, the winners and a number
of others found more dangerous practices in that picture than the
committee had planned.
Last year we completed the new North Station in Boston, a very
dangerous building because in connection with it there is a big amuse­
ment garden, seating 17,000 people—something like the Madison
Square Garden in New York. About 80,000 people passed in and
out of that station daily; the men worked day and night on that
building; we had safety committee meetings there, and we had our
inspectors on the job all the time.
We completed that building without the loss of a life— and two
other big buildings at the same time—which is a fine record compared
with 30 years ago, when the South Station was built before they had
any safety department and 28 men lost their lives.
I am sorry the Commissioner of Labor of New York is not able to
be here. However, New York has sent a good representative, and I
want you people, especially in Canada, to meet and to know the next
speaker, Dr. Eugeue B. Patton.
Doctor P a t t o n . Before I say anything about the topic under dis­
cussion, I would like to mention one or two things. I would
like first to refer to the statement made by Mr. Blake, of Ohio,
which seemed to occasion some comment, namely, his figure of
$90,000,000 lost in the State of Ohio by accidents. The way that
particular figure and other similar figures get around, is this: Some
seven years ago Mr. Heinrich, of the Travelers’ Insurance Co., made
an investigation into 5,000 accidents which had been reported to the
Travelers’ Insurance Co., endeavoring to ascertain the incidental, or
indirect, costs of industrial accidents. If a ladder slipped and the
man fell and fractured his leg, so much compensation was awarded.
But Mr. Heinrich went further than that and tried to discover how
much loss was occasioned to the employer, other than the specific
compensation awarded, and that he called the indirect cost. With­
out going into the details, he came to the conclusion that the indirect
costs were four times the direct costs, that for every dollar of direct
compensation and medical aid awarded there was $4 additional cost
consisting of items which in themselves individually did not amount
to very much, but which in the aggregate bulked very large; so his
general conclusion was that if in a given State the actual compensa­
tion awards amounted to $1,000,000 the indirect costs were $4,000,000.
making a total of $5,000,000.
Among the factors of incidental cost, Mr Heinrich listed the
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(Excluding compensation and liability claims; excluding medical and hospital
cost; excluding insurance premiums; excluding cost of lost time except where
actually paid by the employer.)
1. Cost of lost time of injured employee.
2. Cost of time lost by other employees who stop work (a) out of curiosity;
(&) out of sympathy; (c) to assist injured employee; ($) for other reasons.
3. Cost of time lost by foremen, supervisors, or other executives as follows:
(a) Assisting injured employee; (&) investigating cause of accident; (c)
arranging for injured employee’s production to be continued by some other
employee; (<?) selecting, training, or breaking-in new employee to replace
injured employee; ( e) preparing State accident reports, or attending hearings
before industrial commissioner.
4. Cost of time spent on case by first-aid attendant and hospital department
staff, when this time is not compensated by insurance.
5. Cost due to injury to the machine, tools, or other property or to the
spoilage of material.
6. Incidental cost due to interference with production, failure to fill orders
on time, loss of bonuses, payment of forfeits, and other similar causes.
7. Cost to employer under employee welfare and benefit systems.
8. Cost to employer in continuing wages in full of the injured employee,
whereas the services of the employee (who is not yet fully recovered) may be
worth only about 50 per cent of their normal value.
9. Cost due to the loss of profit on injured employee’s productivity and on
idle machines.

Then in regard to the comments Mr. Stewart made (in speaking
of the paper which had been read) as to the failure to report acci­
dents to men who had not lost time, medical experts tell me it is a
growing practice. Not over a month ago a plant medical director
told me that every accident to an employee in his establishment
was attended to by him personally. If a man hurt his hand, he
would immediately walk to the doctor’s office and get proper medical
treatment. The medical director would attend to the injury, and
then go through the plant and direct the foreman or supervisor to
give the man with the injured hand some job or task—it might be
that of a watchman—which would not require him to use the in­
jured hand. The doctor would do that rather than see the man go
on losing his wages, losing more than one-third of his wages, be­
cause we can pay only a maximum of $25 a week as compensation.
He keeps the injured man at that light work while his hand is heal­
ing, at his full wage, therefore he is much better paid than he would
be under compensation.
The difficulty, aside from the one Mr. Stewart spoke of, is that
it would be unsafe to intrust the ordinary workman or plant man­
ager with such responsibility because he might not be able to antici­
pate or to diagnose properly the result of that injury to the hand;
even though the man did not lose the injured hand, it might result
in a loss of mobility or some other function.
I do feel, as Commissioner Stewart says, that to the extent the
practice grows of not reporting accidents it will tend to weaken the
validity of our accident statistics; secondly, there is great danger
that the workman injured in that way may not get the rest and
treatment and attenion he really needs.
I am perfectly well aware, although it has not been told to me,
that the program committee of this association gave the invitation
for these remarks primarily, not because they wanted to know what
New York was doing in regard to safety work, but to see and hear
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not know until just before I left that she would not be able to be
here. To those of you who have met her it is unnecessary for me
to try to recount to you the advantages and qualifications she pos­
sesses for her present position. There comes to my mind here her
vivid personality, which impresses everyone who comes in contact
with her, also the boundless fund of enthusiasm and the very in­
tense interest in safety work she possesses. I think that is easy to
understand, when it is considered that her interest in this field of
work antedates her connection with the New York State department
of labor. It dates back to the factory fire of 1911 in New York City,
when 146 girls were burned to death. That interest she has con­
tinued to retain from that day to this.
I merely intimate to you that whatever may be the specific nature
of the problem which arises, we are sure that Commissioner Perkins
will consider it always from the safety point of view, and will
leave nothing undone to bring about the greatest possible degree
of safety.
It is entirely unnecessary for me to go into detail concerning the
various branches of safety work New York is undertaking.
The inspection activities cover a wide range, including factories,
mercantile establishments, tenement houses, construction work, boil­
ers, mines, quarries, explosives magazines, tunnels, and subway and
caisson construction. In the month just ended—May, 1929—there
were, in round numbers 18,000 factory orders issued, and during the
same month there were more than 16,000 compliances by employers
with factory orders. Similarly, there were approximately 1,000
orders issued relating to mercantile establishments and a nearly
equal number of compliances. The.orders issued in the other fields
were naturally not so numerous, but the same policy of inspection
w&s pursued in each.
The inspection orders may be classified under the following gen­
eral headings:
Administration, sanitation, accident prevention, fire protection,
children, women and minors, day of rest, and payment of wages.
The bureau of industrial hygiene, with its sections of inspection,
special research, accident prevention, and education is continually
engaged in safety research and special studies, particularly in the
field of prevention of industrial diseases.
You will be more interested, perhaps, in a brief statement as to a
new method of attack upon the industrial accident problem which
Commissioner Perkins now has under way. Realizing that accidentprevention work to be successful can not depend alone upon the
efforts of employers, but must enlist the active interest and co­
operation of the workers, she has invited all central labor bodies in
the State to send delegates to the office of the governor on June 26
to discuss plans with the governor and herself for the formation of
a committee of workers to conduct a safety campaign.
Following is the text of the letter of invitation sent out on
May 28:
My D ear Si b : The prevention of industrial accidents is a subject which
has for many years engaged the attention of His Excellency Governor Roose­
velt and of the undersigned, and we are quite sure that any movement de­
signed to attain this object will both deserve and receive your approval and
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Study of the causes of industrial accidents shows that only the active leader­
ship of the workers themselves can substantially reduce accidents and injuries
in industry. Governor Roosevelt wishes to receive the assistance of organized
labor in a labor unions’ safety campaign, appealing directly to the unions
and the individual workers, for systematic efforts to reduce industrial acci­
dents and injuries.
To this end Governor Roosevelt has requested me to invite your organization
to send delegates to a conference to be held in the executive chambers at
Albany, on June 26, at 12 noon. At that time the governor will invite dis­
cussion as to the nature of the campaign, the means by which it may be made
effective, and will place at the disposal of the unions all the facilities of the
labor department.
I confidently count on the cooperation of your organization in making this
campaign effective. Please send me before June 15 the names of the delegates
who will attend.
Very truly yours,
F rances P erkins ,

Industrial Commissioner.

This was followed shortly after by a letter from the president
of the State Federation of Labor to all who had received such invi­
tations urging cordial cooperation in the project.
Commissioner Perkins has also, during May, appointed a per­
manent advisory council, including 23 men and women prominent
in the fields of social service, industrial relations, labor organiza­
tions, and industry, to consider employment problems. A report of
findings and recommendations is asked for by December 1, so that
any recommendations of interest may be available by the time the
legislature convenes in January.
There might also be mentioned here the pronounced activity of
the department in the matter of drafting industrial codes. A special
committee is at work upon hazards arising from the use of chemicals
in industry, both as concerns their own manufacture and their uses
in the manufacture of other materials.
Chairman S w e e tse r . I am sure Doctor Patton will be glad to
answer any questions anyone may desire to ask him.
In formulating these codes, Doctor Patton, did you follow the
national safety code, so called?
Doctor P a t t o n . N o , not directly; our code committees act inde­
pendently. A committee is formed by selecting certain representa­
tives. Suppose it is the problem of dangerous machinery. We will
appoint manufacturers of dangerous machinery to sit with that com­
mittee ; we will appoint safety inspectors from private organizations,
insurance companies, for example, or accident-prevention associa­
tions ; and we will appoint somebody within the department who has
particular and specific knowledge of such a problem. The com­
mittee may consist of from 12 to 20 members. The State does not
pay any salary, but it pays the expenses of attending these code­
committee meetings.
After considering the matter thoroughly, and drawing up tentative
suggestions, a plan is evolved which secures the acceptance of this
committee. It is then turned over to the board, which makes further
changes, perhaps, and finally adopts it as a tentative code. Public
hearings are then held throughout the State, which are widely
advertised in the newspapers, at which the interested parties are
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generally interested in the safety movement. After these public
hearings have been held the board goes over the matter and finally
adopts the code and formally promulgates it by filing it with the
secretary of state. When it is filed with the secretary of state it be­
comes law, and is binding in its effect. The department of labor can
issue an order under it, just as though it were a specific labor law.
Chairman S w eetseb . There was some discussion yesterday of a na­
tional code, an American engineering code, and the question was
brought up as to some changes and additions that were made in it.
The information I wanted was, whether or not you followed that
code, and whether or not you used it. I suppose you used it in your
investigation ?
Doctor P a t t o n . Yes. Copies of the code are always in the hands
of the committee. I feel very strongly in this matter of coordina­
tion of codes.
I am in hopes that the resolution Mr. Stewart
will introduce to-morrow will look in the direction of giving this
organization a greater interest in this matter. Without knowing
what he is going to recommend, what I have thought about it is this:
That this body should have a committee of not more than five mem­
bers, to whom any code, when it has once been drafted, should be
submitted. If that committee would then go over such code, and,
as representing this association, recommend its adoption by every
State, I believe such recommendation would have some weight. I
do not see any reason why the guarding of a similar machine in
Arizona or in New York State should be materially different.
When a code has been adopted by the American Standards Asso­
ciation or by any specific State, let this committee consider such a
code, and then recommend to each State which is a member of this
body, with the indorsement of this association, the adoption of
such a code.
Miss J o h n s o n . Have you a code for the protection of window
cleaners, and if so, is it effective in protecting such workers?
Doctor P a t t o n . I think that is in the code now. Anyway I know
it is under consideration, but I am not so sure that the committee
has actually adopted it.
Chairman S w eetser . It is being considered by the American
Standards Association also.
Doctor P a t t o n . We had an instance in which a man fell from the
fourteenth story of a building near our department and collided
with a fruit-stand man, both being killed. The following week there
was a window cleaner at work in my office. I asked him if he had
heard about the accident; he said that he heard about it, but did not
seem interested. He went to wTork to clean my windows; I looked
for him in a minute or two, but he was not in sight. I was afraid
to look out the window. He had chosen to walk along the narrow
ledge along the outside to get to the adjoining window. I asked the
next window cleaner who came in if he tested his hooks; he said he
did now, but did not until lately, because one of his hooks had
recently given way and left him suspended by one hook dangling
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Chairman S w eetser . Are there any other delegates here who de­
sire to say anything or ask any questions, or who can give us some­
thing that will be of benefit, upon the subject of safety education ?
Mr. A in s w o r t h . Pennsylvania has been carrying on a campaign
of safety education this year which may be of interest to the dele­
gates. We have, of course, been carrying on the usual safety work
of all State departments such as code development and routine in­
spection work, but through the instigation of Mr. Immel, the director
of the bureau of inspection, it was decided to change the system for
the year 1929 and stage a safety campaign similar to that which any
industrial establishment might wage, but apply it to the entire State
for an entire year. Mr. Immel in starting the campaign took the
precaution to gather together in Harrisburg all the safety engineers
of industrial establishments in order to obtain their reaction to the
campaign and get their criticisms and suggestions. He also dis­
cussed the campaign with the executive committee of the Pennsyl­
vania Federation of Labor and secured its indorsement and sug­
gestions.
For inspection purposes the State is divided into nine districts,
each in charge of a supervisor. The first step in the campaign was
to furnish each of these supervisors with a monthly list of the plants
in his district having accidents. This information is transferred
to a card-index system, so that the supervisor can keep an accurate
record of all the plants over which he has jurisdiction. During the
campaign, instead of carrying on the usual block method of inspec­
tion, the inspectors were to pay particular attention to the plants
having accidents. Development of safety organizations within these
plants was discussed with plant managers, shop meetings were held,
and individual conferences conducted with men who seemed to be
key men in the accident record of the plant.
In addition to the routine inspection work, community safety
rallies were held, local safety councils organized, speeches made be­
fore Rotary, Kiwanis, Lions, and other similar service clubs, and
every opportunity that presented itself was grasped in order to put
across the safety message. A special feature of the campaign con­
sisted of the preparation and distribution of safety pledges among
employees of industrial establishments all over the State. The de­
partment was successful in having 2,500,000 employees sign this
pledge in which they promised to do everything they could during
the year 1929 to prevent accidents from happening to themselves or
their fellow workmen.
We believe the campaign has played a vital part in holding in
check the rising tide of accidents. We are very hopeful that before
the year is over the campaign will have caused the pendulum to
swing the other way.
The carrying on of the campaign does not mean that general in­
spection work is being neglected. Inspections to eliminate violations
of the general factory laws, women and child labor laws, and de­
partmental regulations are being carried on just as strong as ever,
but they are being made on an educational basis rather than on an
enforcement basis in order that the work will fit into the educa­
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Chairman S w eetser . May I ask whether you pay compensation
for occupational diseases in Pennsylvania?
Mr. A in s w o r t h . We do not; we have no occupational disease
law. The only occupational disease which has been recognized and
compensated for is anthrax, and then only when it was proven that
the disease was incurred through an accident.
Mr. U r ic k . I was called out on a matter of business and missed
a great deal of the discussion with relation to factory inspection and
the educational movement going on among employers. We know,
for instance, that there is a safety committee, but there is no need
for it if the management of the concern is in sympathy with the
movement and is encouraging the movement. I have had some
practical experience in that line; for instance, the cement manu­
facturers through their national association are doing quite *a bit
of work in the prevention of accidents. We have five cement plants
in Iowa. At the regional safety conference a year ago, one of the
firms admitted that it had not paid the attention to it that it should
have, but agreed that it would do so. At the last meeting it was pretty
much the same story. As a matter of fact that firm is having a
greater number of accidents than the other firms in which the man­
agers are taking an active interest.
I do not know whether this feature has been mentioned or not.
I refer particularly to foremen, because in Iowa we have recently
been attempting to do some educational work. However, the ques­
tion is dependent upon the management to a considerable extent.
Under the Smith-Hughes vocational plan, and through the inspec­
tion department we have been carrying on a number of forementraining classes. We go into the city two or three days a week,
locate the foremen, and ask for information with regard to their
duties and the handling of their men, and point out to them the
particular attention necessary to be paid by them in the training of
men in accident prevention. Keokuk, Iowa, for a small town of
15,000 people, has an unusually large number of manufacturing plants.
I was there twice with Professor Baird, of the university extension
department. At the conclusion of their discussion, the employers
gave a banquet to all those who had been taking part in the work; and
we had in that little town of 15,000 people 125 men who had taken
advantage of the foremanship training. A good part of the work
related to the interest that was manifested in the safety and protec­
tion campaign, keeping the men satisfied, explaining the codes, and so
forth.
Newton, for instance, a great washing-machine center of the
Nation, is a small town of some 5,000 people. All of the plants
there—one plant with about 1,800 people, one with 500, another with
250, and so on—all of these plants have their foremanship-training
classes, in which the duties ox the foremen and the interest the fore­
men should manifest in the prevention of accidents is pointed out
and explained to them time and time again; and it is having its
desired effect.
Chairman S w eetser . We will now take up that part of the pro­
gram set for this evening. Our secretary-treasurer, Miss Schutz,
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some of our deficiencies as well as some of the things she thinks
we ought to do. If she is ready, we will go into committee of the
whole for a few minutes, while Miss Schutz gives the history of
this association.
History of Association of Governmental Officials in Industry
By L ouise E. Schutz , Secretary-Treasurer

The first printed record in the office of the Association of Gov­
ernmental Officials in Industry of the United States and Canada
regarding the activities of the association, known for years as the
Association of Governmental Labor Officials, is a bulletin published
by the United States Department of Labor, primarily to give an
account of the fifth annual convention of the association held in
Des Moines, Iowa, in 1918. This bulletin contains as an appendix
a brief account of an informal meeting, by courtesy called the fourth
convention of the Association of Governmental Labor Officials of the
United States and Canada, held in Asheville, N. C., in September,
1917, to which nine States and one Province sent representatives, as
follows: Arkansas, Connecticut, Iowa, Kansas, Massachusetts, Michi­
gan, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Quebec.
This convention was the by-product of a conference of labor commis­
sioners and other members of labor departments called by Secretary
of Labor Wilson, July, 1917, to confer on the problem of child labor in
the United States.
Due to the fact that most of the officers who had been elected in
1916 were men whose terms of office had expired and who had not
been reappointed, it seemed likely that there would be no convention
in 1917. However, Miss Bresette, of Kansas, was asked to start
correspondence with State labor departments with a view to a con­
vention. She did so, and as a result the fourth annual convention of
the Association of Governmental Labor Officials of the United States
and Canada was held at Asheville in September, 1917. I believe that
Mr. John S. B. Davie, commissioner of labor of New Hampshire, and
Mr. A. L. Urick, of Iowa, are the only persons in attendance at the
present convention who attended that informal convention held in
1917.
There are several items in the report of the fifth annual convention
in which I believe the members and friends of the organization here
to-day will be interested. The first pages of the report contain a
history of the association prepared by Linna E. Bresette, who acted
as secretary-treasurer of the association for five years. In this report
she states that she finds from reference to old files (which by the way
are not now in our possession) that the Association of Governmental
Labor Officials of the United States and Canada resulted from an
amalgamation of two organizations, one called “ Chiefs of the Bureaus
of Labor Statistics,” organized in 1883, and the other the “ Associa­
tion of Factory Inspectors,” organized in 1887.
In 1883, 46 years ago, the labor commissioners of six States, Mas­
sachusetts, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, and Missouri,
met and organized the “ Association of Chiefs of the Bureaus of Labor
Statistics,” The purpose of that organization, to quote at random
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information in all departments of labor in its relations to the com­
mercial, social, industrial, educational, and sanitary conditions of the
laboring classes. * * * The best methods of obtaining and sys­
tematizing are to be devised, discussed, and formulated. * * *.
It is not the duty of the labor commissioner to attempt an adjust­
ment of the relation of the laboring and manufacturing classes with
the capital of the country. It is his office to furnish such reliable
statistics and data to the law-making power as will furnish the basis
of an intelligent comprehension of the complex features of this great
problem. * * * The establishment of a safe and proper equi­
librium between the great forces of this country— labor and capital—
is of vital import, and is worthy the best efforts of the statesmen, to the
end that such laws shall be enacted as shall relieve labor of unjust bur­
dens and encourage capital in the development of other avenues for
the profitable employment of labor.” The Commissioner of Labor of
the Federal department at Washington held the position of president
of the association for 20 years.
The first meeting of factory inspectors occurred in Philadelphia
in June, 1887— 42 years ago— through the efforts of the chief inspector
of Ohio, who corresponded with other chief inspectors in the country
and brought about this meeting at Philadelphia, which was attended
by factory inspectors from three States, Massachusetts, New Jersey,
and Ohio, and a representative of the State Board of Education of
Connecticut. In the opening address delivered at the first meeting
of factory inspectors a statement was made to the effect that “ the
purpose of this organization is to take counsel one of another as to
the best means of accomplishing the object for which the office of
factory inspector was created.” Mr. Dorn, of Ohio, in this opening
address, mentioned the fact that the office of factory inspector is of
comparatively recent origin, and that because of the limited knowl­
edge of its designs people must be made acquainted with the impor­
tance of the necessity of thorough inspection before factory inspectors
can expect to succeed in their undertaking. Mr. Dorn made the
following observation, which again I quote somewhat at random:
“ Make our workshops and factories comfortable and healthy and
secure those employed therein against the accidents that are now a
daily occurrence, and one great source of discontent and consequent
strikes wili be removed. The greater the interest the employee takes
in his work, the greater the profit of the employer. The fact has been
established that the workman cares for his employer just in proportion
as the employer cares for his workman. Good and humane treat­
ment on the part of capital should receive a proper and profitable
reward from labor. It is a paying investment. On us devolves the
important duty of ascertaining whether children under a certain age
are employed in workshops and factories. Our business requires of
us the careful examination of all kinds of structures and all kinds of
machinery and mechanical appliances. Opposition to inspection is
fast disappearing. We are welcomed or not, just in proportion to the
manufacturers knowledge of our purposes and the results effected by
our examinations. It would perhaps be well if we could have more
uniformity both as to the laws and the manner of carrying them out in
the different States. We are here for the purpose of comparing notes,
and of each one availing himself of the experience and suggestions of
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schoolroom. * * * We are endeavoring to protect the working
people of the country in life, health, and limb, that they may be able
to rear their children in such manner that they shall become intelligent
and healthy men and women, the possessors of sound minds, of good
morals, and of unbroken constitution.”
It is of interest to note that the aims and purposes which were
enunciated at the first convention of the two organizations, later
amalgamated into the one to which we now belong, have been reiter­
ated at every succeeding convention. The two organizations main­
tained their separate entity for a number of years, until at a meeting
of factory inspectors at Toronto, Canada, in 1908, a committee was
appointed with a view to bringing about amalgamation of the two
organizations. How history repeats itself! Difficulty had been met
in securing appropriations to defray the expenses of delegates attend­
ing the conventions. The solution seemed to be amalgamation,
which would mean one convention to attend, rather than two.
Through the ingenuity of a few members of each organization, both
held their meetings in Rochester in 1909. Some sort of arrangement
was effected, and the two organizations met as one at the county
courthouse at Hendersonville, N C., in 1910. At that time a reslution was adopted at the meeting of factory inspectors in which the
statement was made that since the purposes, aims and objects, and
scope of work of the factory inspectors and commissioners of labor
statistics were identical, a committee should be appointed to confer
with a like committee of commissioners looking to the merging of the
two associations under an appropriate name and workable consti­
tution. The factory inspectors, however, were not ready to amalga­
mate, as they feared that their identity might be lost if the two
associations were merged.
Formation of Present Association

Finally, in 1914, this opposition was overcome. The two asso­
ciations were merged under the name “ Association of Governmental
Labor Officials of the United States and Canada” at Nashville,
Tenn., June, 1914, at which time a constitution was adopted. The
constitution stated that the purpose of the new association should be
the promotion of the welfare of industrial workers, the securing of
uniform labor legislation, better laws for factory inspection, laws
creating State employment bureaus, laws promoting industrial
hygiene and accident prevention, and to aid in every way possible
to secure better provision for the industrial development and pro­
tection of the workers of the various States and Provinces. Member­
ship in the organization was restricted to employees in Federal,
State, provincial, county, or municipal departments having to do
with the enforcement and supervision of labor laws. Other than the fact
of amalgamation and statements of officers elected and place of meeting
each year given in the printed proceedings there is no printed record of
what occurred at the first, second, and third conventions of the Associa­
tion of Governmental Labor Officials of the United States and Canada.
At the convention held in Des Moines, Iowa, in 1918, the Federal
Government at Washington was represented by Mr. Ethelbert
Stewart, who was delegated to attend by the Secretary of Labor
Miss Bresette's observation in this connection is as follows: “ His
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of cooperation between the Federal department and the depart­
ments of the various States.” As a result of the attendance of
Mr. Stewart at the convention at Des Moines in 1918 a very great
benefit accrued to the Association of Governmental Labor Officials
of the United States and Canada in that the United States Depart­
ment of Labor undertook to print the proceedings of the conventions.
Mr Stewart's observation, as stated in his letter of transmittal to
the head of the Department of Labor at Washington, is worthy of
mention at this time. Again I quote: “ Convinced that this associ­
ation, composed as it is of the labor officials and factory inspectors
of the various States, is one with which the Department of Labor
could most effectively work and of which it should, so far as the law
permits, be a member, I have the honor to transmit herewith a copy
of the proceedings of the fifth annual convention of the Association
of Governmental Labor Officials of the United States and Canada,
together with the papers and reports submitted to that convention.”
The report of the auditing committee of the fourth convention
stated that at that time the association had liabilities which exceeded
its assets in the amount of $14.87. In other words, the association
was insolvent. In the treasurer's report, which Miss Bresette sub­
mitted in 1918, a statement was made that the treasurer had on hand
then, at the time of the convention, $61.04, but that the association
had outstanding debts contracted by the former secretary, which
amounted to $263.68, to cover printing costs, stenographic serv­
ice, etc. These debts were never paid. My purpose in mentioning
these facts at this time is to indicate what a boon it was to the asso­
ciation to have the Federal Department of Labor undertake to print
the proceedings of the succeeding conventions. It is because of this
generous arrangement that the association has been able to keep
solvent since 1918.
State Representation at Meetings

In preparation for this paper, I have read over the reports of the
proceedings of the various conventions beginning with the fourth
and extending through the fifteenth. I have been interested to
note that Quebec was apparently the first Province to affiliate itself
with the association. Since that time Alberta, British Columbia,
Manitoba, and Saskatchewan have sent representatives to the various
conventions, though not so continuously as has Ontario. The Federal
Department of Labor of Canada affiliated with the organization in
1923, through the attendance of the secretary at the Richmond con­
vention. It has maintained membership ever since and has sent
representatives from the employment service and the labor intelligence
branch to conventions. The Children's Bureau, the Women's
Bureau, and the Employment Service of the United States Department
of Labor affiliated with the organization as they were established.
The Bureau of Mines was made an honorary member in 1927 Al­
though none of these bureaus pay dues to the association, the expense
of printing the proceedings, borne by the Department of Labor, far
exceeds any liability any of these bureaus might otherwise have in the
matter of dues. Furthermore, they are prohibited by law from pay­
ing dues. The records have not always been clear each year as to
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have sent representatives at some time to the conventions, are not
represented this year: Alaska, Arizona, California, Connecticut,
Delaware, Indiana, Kansas, Michigan, North Carolina, North Dakota,
Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota,
Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming, and Quebec.
The question immediately arises, Why is it, when a State has once
sent representatives, that it does not continue to do so? In some
instances, as revealed by letters read at the business session Wed­
nesday morning, the State will pay neither the expenses of attendance
of a delegate nor dues to the association. In some instances the new
commissioners have not become interested, and so it goes. This year
although a very special effort was put forth to enlist membership and
attendance at the convention by the Secretary of Labor, Hon. James
J. Davis, by Doctor McBride, who resigned as president of the organ­
ization in March, and by the secretary-treasurer, only 26 departments
paid dues, as against 28 in 1926. There are representatives in attend­
ance from 13 States and 4 Provinces, and from various bureaus of the
two Federal departments— the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Women's
Bureau, and the Children’s Bureau, of the United States Department
of Labor, and the intelligence bureau and the employment bureau of
the Canadian Department of Labor. Altogether 22 bureaus are rep­
resented this year.
It is interesting to note that the year of largest attendance was
1924, when the convention was held at Chicago; at that meeting
representatives of 34 departments registered. The Association of
Public Employment Services met at the same time and place, and thus
helped to augment the attendance at both conventions. In 1925, at
Salt Lake City, representatives of 24 departments registered for the
convention of the Association of Governmental Labor Officials; that
year the International Association of Industrial Accident Boards and
Commissions met immediately after our convention. Twenty-four
departments participated in the convention at Harrisburg in 1922,
23 at Richmond in 1923, and 19 at Columbus, Ohio, in 1926.
A perusal of the reports indicates that in some instances States and
Provinces which have sent representatives to the meetings, who have
reported on new legislation, taken part in discussions, etc., have not
paid dues. The association has apparently been interested primarily
in participation of many representatives in the meetings regardless
of whether or not the persons in attendance found it possible actively
to affiliate with the organization by paying dues. In some years we
have had reports on new legislation from as many as 19 States.
Last year we had such reports from but three States. Although we
had a small convention at New Orleans, it was one that was very
much worth while.
At the New Orleans convention, in 1928, the name of the associa­
tion was changed by constitutional amendment from Association
of Governmental Labor Officials to Association of Governmental
Officials in Industry. The change was made for the purpose of
removing a misunderstanding that then existed regarding the nature
of the association and for the purpose of assisting in securing the
cooperation and support of such organizations as chambers of com­
merce and other employers' associations. It was also felt that this
change in name more aptly defined the status of the personnel of the
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Subjects Discussed

in looking over the proceedings of the last 13 conventions, I
have noticed with interest the subjects which have been given con­
sideration, i. e., industrial hygiene, industrial fatigue, factor inspec­
tion, accidents and accident prevention, occupational diseases,
industrial rehabilitation, mine safety work, migratory children, minimum-wage legislation, conciliation in labor disputes, and how to
make statistics uniform. Our organization has had participation in
the formulation of a number of safety codes, notably those concerning
which we had reports at the business session Wednesday morning.
It has had the privilege of participating in the work of the National
Association of Legal Aid Organizations in its attempts to work out a
satisfactory and uniform law for the collection of wage claims. The
organization had a representative at the industrisu accident pre­
vention conference, called by Secretary of Labor Davis, in Washington
in July, 1926. We admitted to membership, by changing the con­
stitution in 1925, the Washington representative of the International
Labor Office.
Questions for Consideration

In conclusion, I wish again to consider some of the questions which
have been issues in the past, and which are not yet dead.
1. Would it be advisable for this organization to amalgamate with
some other? My own connection with the organization leads me to
believe that if this organization amalgamated with some other for the
purpose of securing a larger attendance at the conventions, we would
not accomplish the purpose that might be intended. It is my belief
that for the most part we would still have only one representative
from a State in attendance at the convention; for example, four
people from Minnesota now attend the two conventions of the A. G.
O. I. and the I. A. I. A. B. C. Were the two amalgamated, I have
reason to believe that but two people would be permitted to attend
the one convention, and that the situation which we meet in Minne­
sota would be duplicated elsewhere. In other words, I doubt that
amalgamation would increase our attendance.
2. How may we augment our treasury? If we had more money
in the treasury, the expenses of the executive board might be paid
to a meeting which I believe should be held some months prior to the
convention, in order that complete plans might be laid by the board
(which is the program committee) for the next convention. Tentative
programs could be sent out early to enlist interest, and we might then
hope to know definitely, before the final programs are printed just
who are coming to take part in the program and who are not In my
opinion, the organization is of such value that a greater amount of
time and thought should be given to the making of the programs than
seems possible now, when it is arranged each year largely through
correspondence between the members of the executive board.
3. Would it not be advisable to elect to office persons whose terms
of office do not expire the year of the convention? The executive
board did not begin to work definitely on the program this year until
after the resignation of Doctor McBride, which was held in abeyance
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4. In any event, is it not advisable to begin making plans for the
convention six or seven months before it is to be held? Last year,
although every effort was made by the secretary-treasurer to bring
about concerted action on the program at an early date, the executive
board did not begin to arrange the program until after March 15,
and the convention was held in May. Such an arrangement places
entirely too much responsibility on the secretary, who is sometimes
compelled to fill in gaps and make last-minute decisions without the
sanction of the executive board, which constitutes the program
committee.
5. How may we secure more members who will affiliate with the
organization and keep membership in it over a period of years? If
that problem could be solved, the problem of an adequate budget
would automatically be solved. Although a full coffer is not our
primary consideration, certainly any organization which hopes to be
effective ought to be able to meet legitimate expenses without embar­
rassment.
May I say, again in conclusion, that it has been gratifying to me to
note from my vantage point of secretary-treasurer, that people of
national prominence, not members of the organization, have expressed
themselves as feeling it a privilege to be invited to address the organ­
ization? I have attended conventions of this association every year
since 1918. During the years of association with the organization I
have heard many expressions of opinion to the effect that the con­
ventions are of lasting benefit and inspiration to all who attend.
DISCUSSION

Chairman S w eetser . Before we close I think we should call upon
another speaker—relative to bestowing the benediction—one who
attended the first convention and has attended practically every
convention since that time. I refer to John S . B. Davie, the
commissioner of labor of New Hampshire. We will close this
meeting when he is through. To-morrow after the business session
we will continue this discussion on factory inspection, when those
who have not had a chance this afternoon, may discuss the question.
Mr. D a v ie . I will make my remarks very brief. I was very much
interested in the history of this association as recounted by our
secretary-treasurer, but there are a few loose ends that I would like
to straighten out.
The first association of men following our line of service was
known as the Association of Officials of Bureaus of Labor Statistics
of America. The record of my office shows that in 1904 this organi­
zation was entertained by the State of New Hampshire.
The first convention I had the privilege of attending was held
m Washington, D. C., in 1912, the delegation being made up of
fellow commissioners of labor throughout the country. At that
time there was some agitation for an amalgamation with the National
Association of Factory Inspectors. The factory inspectors thought,
if such an amalgamation was made, they would be submerged in
the commissioners’ organization, as nearly all of the labor depart­
ments had supervision over factory inspection. This point seemed
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Then I remember the Asheville convention. The old organization
seemed to be dead from its feet up and its head down. Those who
attended that convention decided something would have to be done
to save the organization. It was my privilege, at that time, to serve
on an auditing committee composed of Miss Linna Bresette and
Louis Palmer (of Pennsylvania). Our investigations showed the
organization was absolutely dead, financially, owing to some mis­
management of the funds prior to the Asheville convention. A plan
for reorganizing the association and putting it upon a firm financial
basis was submitted by that committee and adopted by the conven­
tion. It has been very gratifying to me to note that since that
time the organization has finished each year’s work with a balance in
the treasury. Some of you have been calling this a small attendance
at this convention. You should have been at that one.
Although I was authorized to go to the Des Moines convention,
owing to a matter that was pending and required my personal at­
tention, it was my misfortune not to be able to attend. Later on
I understood some negotiations were carried on at that convention
to amalgamate with another association.
At the Nashville convention it was my privilege to work with
Brother Urick nearly two whole nights with the thermometer stand­
ing at about 124° in the shade to bring about such an amalgamation.
It is my opinion this association has done so much good for those
who are members of it that we just can not bear to see anyone kill
it. No matter what happens, through changes in the political situa­
tion in the various States of the Union, you can take it for granted
from us who have known and who have made this association what it
is that we are going to see that it lives on; it is our intention to pass
on to our colleagues and successors the great benefit the association
has been to every one of us while engaged in our class of service.
My own experience with members of this association has been so
absolutely fine that I will treasure it so long as life lasts. I can
never forget the many things I have been able to learn and the many
advantages I have gained from being a member. Should it be my
lot never to attend another convention I sincerely hope those who
are left behind will have the same spirit of loyalty, the same spirit
of cooperative effort and service given by former members. I am
confident this association can not be wiped out if that be true.
In conclusion may I say this association will be just as strong as
its weakest link, so let each of us appoint himself a committee of one
to do his part to assist in carrying out the aims and objects of this
association in every way he can in his respective district and by so
doing make this association second to none in the United States and
Canada.
Mr. P l a n t . I was greatly interested in the paper our able secretary-treasurer presented to the meeting. I am sure that it would be
of keen interest to others who have not had an opportunity of hear­
ing it read. While it will take the usual course and be printed in
the report of the proceedings, I was just wondering whether or not
it is desirable to have it printed separately. We know that the pro­
ceedings are late in being available for distribution, so if the cost
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suggest that a copy of it be forwarded to each of the State depart­
ments, as well as to the departments of the Provinces of Canada, also
to the Federal Bureau. I was going to make that as a motion, but I
do not know the state of our finances.
Chairman S w e e ts e r . The secretary tells me that they are pretty
low. We could leave that to the discretion of t&e executive board,
and they would do it, if possible.
Doctor P a t t o n . I think it should go out with next year’s
invitations.
Miss S w e t t . We might stand the expense of mimeographing it,
and send it out now.
We all feel that we do not want the association to die. As was
said yesterday, we have to go on or go under. While Miss Schutz
as secretary is in a position to realize better than anyone else what
she has spoken of in her paper, jet anyone on the executive board
will realize what a responsibility is placed on the secretary.
While we are considering the time and place of holding our next
convention, I wonder whether we could not consider meeting just
before the gathering of the International Association of Industrial
Accident Boards and Commissions. Mr. Wilcox asked me to give
that message to you. I said I thought that was what ought to be
done, and he thought so, too.
[Meeting adjourned.]
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FRIDAY, JUNE 7—MORNING SESSION
Maud Swett, President, A. G. 0 . 1., Presiding

BUSINESS SESSION
The secretary reported that, as directed, she sent resolution No. 8,
passed at the meeting of the association in 1928, to the Director
of the Bureau of Census. This resolution requested the Bureau of
Census to consider the making of separate classifications in the census
of occupations of 1930 as follows:
1. Married women living with husband.
2. Women widowed, divorced, or otherwise separated.
3. Single women.
4. Women whose status is not reported.
She reported that the Director of Census implied that the recom­
mendation would be considered, together with a host of others that
had been received.
On motion of Mr. Seiller, of Kentucky, Ethelbert Stewart, United
States Commissioner of Labor Statistics, was reappointed to repre­
sent the A. G. O. I. on the American Standards Association Com­
mittee.
The president appointed Mr. F. J. Plant, of the Department of
Labor of Canada, to prepare a report of the proceedings of the
Friday meeting, to be used by the Toronto papers.
Report on Safety in Spray Painting Industry.

The Secretary called the attention of the delegates to the fact that
a motion was adopted at the meeting of the association in 1928, re­
corded on page 145 of Bulletin No. 408, to the effect that the incom­
ing president call a joint conference of delegates from as many States
as possible for the purpose of taking up the question of establishing
safety in the industry of spray painting. She further reported that
there was considerable correspondence in regard to this contemplated
conference with various members of the organization, but that finally
she was advised, by Doctor McBride, then president of the associa­
tion, that it seemed to him impracticable to call the conference this
year.
Report Regarding Resolution No. 7, Relating to Ruilding Construction Safety Code,
Adopted in New Orleans in 1928.

Mr. John Roach, deputy commissioner of labor of New Jersey,
submitted a statement to the effect that Doctor McBride, then com­
missioner of the department of labor of New Jersey, attended a meet­
ing at the Engineering Building in New York City, Friday, June
29, 1928, which meeting was called as a result of the receipt by the
American Engineering Standards Committee of resolution No. 7,
adopted at New Orleans by the A. G. O. I., relating to the matter of
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a building construction safety code. About 40 people attended the
meeting representing industry, labor, and the general public.
The Master Builders’ Association was opposed to the formulation
of safety rules. A committee was appointed to draft a code, which
committee, at the time of Mr. Roach’s report, had apparently done
nothing. Some time later, representatives of the Master Builders!
Association consulted with Doctor McBride in the Jersey City office
of the New Jersey commission. It was apparent at this meeting that
the master builders were very much opposed to the formulation of
rules for the construction industry. There seemed nothing further to
report at the time in regard to the status of the matter.
Report on Committee of Officers’ Report.
The report of the secretary-treasurer lias been examined, found to be correct
and prepared in accordance with the constitution of the association. The report
discloses one fact that should be brought to the attention of the association. An
increasing lack of interest on the part of the various member States and Prov­
inces is evidenced by the large number of member organizations that have not
paid their dues. While the present condition of the treasury may be such that
the work of the association can be carried on during the coming year, the lack of
interest mentioned, if allowed to increase further, will seriously threaten the
existence of the association.
The committee therefore recommends that the incoming officers and executive
board institute a campaign of publicity among member organizations as to the
desirability of keeping in contact with the association and to encourage non­
member organizations to become affiliated with the association.
Report of Committee on Resolutions.
1. Resolved, That the association extend its sincere thanks to the Department
of Labor of Ontario and the Hon. Dr. Forbes Godfrey, Minister of Health
and Labor, for the many attentions accorded the delegates in convention at
Toronto.
2. Resolved, That the association extend sincere thanks to the Hon. George
Howard Ferguson, K. C., Premier of Ontario, the press, and all others who
have contributed so much to the pleasure and comfort of the delegates.
3. Resolved, That the association extend sincere thanks to His Worship,
Samuel J. McBride, mayor of Toronto, and to the board of control, for the many
favors shown the members during our stay in Toronto.
4. Resolved, Whereas, It has pleased Almighty God to remove from our midst
Frank Hoffman, a past president of this association, formerly deputy com­
missioner of labor and at the time of his decease director, The Compensation
Division of the State of Minnesota; and
Whereas, he had by his many manly qualities endeared himself to the
members of this association: Therefore be it
Resolved, That we, the delegates to the sixteenth annual convention of the
A. G. O. I., extend to his bereaved family our sincere sympathy; and be it
Resolved further, That this resolution be spread on the minutes of this con­
vention and a copy be sent to his family.
5. Resolved, That the incoming administration (executive board) shall ap­
point a committee of five to encourage and urge the various States to adopt
the safety codes of the A. S. A. to so harmonize State laws and regulations
that it will be possible for machine-tool builders to safeguard equipment at
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6. Resolved, Whereas, a conference on the subject of calendar reform is to
be held in Geneva, Switzerland; and whereas a congressional resolution request­
ing the President of the United States to appoint a delegate to that conference
has been favorably reported out of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs:
be it
Resolved, That this association believes that the United States should be
represented at such conference.

Resolutions Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 were adopted. Resolution No. 5,
however, was referred back to the committee on resolutions to be in
turn referred to the incoming executive board.
Memorandum: Resolution No. 6.—In 1928. Ethelbert Stewart,
United States Commissioner of Labor Statistics, E. Leroy Sweetser,
of Massachusetts, and James A. Hamilton, of New York, were ap­
pointed a committee of three to make a study of the proposed change
in the calendar, which is now being studied throughout the world,
and to report to the next convention.
In urging the adoption of this resolution, Mr. Stewart submitted
the following statement:
I will introduce my report on the revision of the calendar by sub­
mitting a resolution which I ask this convention to indorse. As you
will remember, the matter came up in the closing minutes of the last
convention when there was no time to discuss it, and a committee
was appointed to report to this convention.
When I first began taking an active interest in calendar reform
I didn’t suppose there would be any opposition encountered, and for
over a year I didn’t hear one word of objection or criticism except
from individual workmen here and there who wanted to know if it
meant that they would have to pay 13 months’ rent in a year. My
reply was, “ Yes; but you get 13 months’ pay in a year.” The adjust­
ment of contracts for a stipulated sum, as yearly rental, to be paid
in 12 monthly installments is a mere matter of detail of changing
such contracts to read in 13 equal installments. This would, of
course, be taken care of by legislation.
In the first place I want to say a few words about the attitude we
sometimes find toward a change of the calendar as though we were
attempting to interfere with the order of the universe. There is but
one natural measure of time— if you call it time; I prefer to call it
duration. That is that the earth revolves upon its axis in 365 and
a fraction days. This of course is fundamental, and any attempt to
ignore it would call down upon our heads the whole science of as­
tronomy and in fact all other sciences. However, the scientists
have made it perfectly clear that so long as we retain the 365 and a
fraction days as the base they do not care what division we make of
it. Any and all divisions of this basic figure are purely arbitrary
The sole purpose of subdivision is for human convenience, and this
subdivision has been changed innumerable times.
The Gregorian calendar, which we now propose to change, was
first announced by Pope Gregory X I II in 1577 A. D. It was first ac­
cepted by four countries, Italy, Spain, Portugal, and France, in
1582. England did not accept it until 1752, when under the calendar
new style act the Gregorian calendar was made to apply to England
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born on the 22d day of February according to the present calendar,
but he was born something like 10 or 12 days before that. The
French, after the revolution, started an entirely new calendar in
which September 22, 1792, was made the year one. This calendar
had 12 months of 30 days each with five supernumerary days at the
end of each year. Weeks were abolished and the months divided in­
to three decades of 10 days each. It was not until 1804 that this
French calendar was abandoned.
The first really sensible calendar was proposed by Auguste Comte
in 1849. That calendar had 13 months of 28 days, with blank days
to fill in the gaps.
I do not want to spend any more time on the historical side of this
question. Every labor statistician realizes the inconvenience of our
present system, which has 7 months of 31 days each, 4 months
of 30 days each, and 1 month which in some years has 28 and in
other years 29 days. If you are collecting your wage data on the
basis of monthly wages there is always a question of which month,
and even on a semimonthly base there is always a question of how
many Sundays there were in that month and how many Sundays
fell within your pay-roll period. Some of you don’t take time to
figure this out, with the result that you never know whether the
wage-rate statistics of the various States are comparable or not.
In business a man finds that his sales in April, 1928, fell below
those of April, 1927. He proclaims an era of panic without waiting
to ascertain that there were five Sundays in one of the months that
he is comparing, while the other month had but four Sundays in it.
His statement for March shows an increase over the preced­
ing month, when, as a matter of fact, there is 11 per cent differ­
ence between the length of February and the length of March, and if
you count working-days only—which is the most important factor
in all businesses—there is over 8 per cent difference. The same is true
of quarterly and of semiannual reports, with the result that a great
many business firms for their own bookkeeping now use the 13
months of 28 days as the basis for their business calculations.
This question was more or less smoldering until some two or three
years ago, when it was taken up by a man named Cotsworth, who
is of that type that when he gets an idea into his head he throws his
whole life into putting that idea into practice. Not being a man of
great means, he interested George Eastman, of the Eastman Kodak
Co., who has furnished the money to get the American and English
speaking people interested in this matter.
Practically every nation in the world except the United States
has agreed to attend this Geneva conference. You can readily un­
derstand that a calendar change which is not agreed to by the
United States Government would be exceedingly difficult to effect.
It is all right to say that the world was years in coming to a final
agreement on the Gregorian calendar. For instance, it was adopted
in Turkey since 1927. But the interrelationships in the world to­
day are very different from the centuries between the launching of
the Gregorian calendar and its final acceptance by Turkey. Be­
sides, a calendar which is not accepted by the United States is not
likely to make much headway no matter what the desires of the
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t.

Now, I have been telling you what I think and what I believe in
regard to the calendar reform. As I said, for two years I found
no opposition to it and could not imagine any serious opposition to
it. As the Pope had already agreed to a fixation of the date upon
which Easter Sunday should fall I supposed that the religious
question had been eliminated. However, when Congressman Porter,
Chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, proposed
public hearings on his resolution there was a perfect storm of
protest from the Jews and the Seventh Day Adventists. These
hearings lasted at intervals for months. I sat in at two sessions
of the committee and listened to the arguments against this reso­
lution—which, after all, simply asks that the United States be reprecented at the conference—and one would have supposed that the very
existence of religion depended upon the defeat of this resolution. I
am not aware that religion was particularly affected by the adoption
of the Gregorian calendar, and the principal argument that I heard
was that if you make a movable Saturday you split the religious
world in two and one group will have one day for its Sabbath and
another group another day, and with two Sabbaths we would be
in danger of both sides ultimately ignoring the fact of a Sabbath
at all. The opposition stubbornly refused to answer the question
as to whether or not that is not true now, and whether or not there
is any inclination on the part of the Jews and the Seventh Day
Adventists to ignore their Sabbath because there is another Sabbath.
Your representative discreetly stayed out of the religious squabble,
but was interested to know whether or not there was a real religious
problem involved or whether it was all bluff. Never before was I so
impressed with the slavery of a Sabbatarian institution to its Sab­
bath, nor with the far-reaching significance of what He said, and the
bitterness of mind and soul with which He said it, when He said
“ The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.”
In moving that this resolution be adopted I want the convention
to be thoroughly advised that we are absolutely ignoring Sabbatarian
institutions; that we believe that a uniform calendar which will
make every month begin on Monday and every month contain four
weeks of seven days is, as a statistical and commercial proposition,
a great convenience; and that we are looking upon the calendar as a
purely human institution to be regulated as best suits our human
needs. Upon this ground I recommend its adoption.
Report of Committee on Constitution.

Mr. Ballantyne, chairman of the committee on constitution, sub­
mitted changes in Section 1 of Article II, and Section 3 of Article
V. These sections as changed are given below.
A kticle II
Section 1. Objects.— To encourage the cooperation of all branches of Federal,
State, and Provincial Governments who are charged with the administration
of laws and regulations for the protection of women and children, and the
safety and welfare of all workers in industry; to maintain and promote the
best possible standards of law enforcement and administrative method;
to act as a medium for the interchange of information for and by the members
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women and young workers in industry; to aid in securing the best possible
education for minors which will enable them to adequately meet the constantly
changing industrial and social changes; to promote the enactment of legis­
lation that conforms to and deals with the ever recurring changes that take
place in industry, and in rendering more harmonious relations in industry
between employers and employees; to assist in providing greater and better
safeguards to life and limb of industrial workers; and to cooperate with other
agencies in making the best and safest use of property devoted to industrial
purposes; to secure by means of educational methods, a greater degree of
interstate and interprovincial uniformity in the enforcement of labor laws
and regulations; to assist in the establishment of standards of industrial
safety that will give adequate protection to workers; to encourage Federal,
State, and Provincial labor departments to cooperate in compiling and dis­
seminating statistics dealing with employment, unemployment, earnings, hours
of labor and other matters of interest to industrial workers and of importance
to the welfare of women and children; to collaborate and cooperate with asso­
ciations of employers and associations of employees in order that all of these
matters may be given the most adequate consideration; and to promote na­
tional prosperity and international goodwill by correlating as far as possible
the activities of the members of this association.

The following change in section 3, Article V, of the constitution,
was made as the result of a report unanimously adopted at the meet­
ing of the association in 1928 (see p. 150, of Bulletin No. 480), which
reads in part as follows: “ The committee has considered the sug­
gestions made by Mr. Stewart, and the question of increasing the
salary of the secretary-treasurer was unanimously reported out with
the recommendation that the secretary-treasurer’s salary be made
$300 a year.”
A rticle V
Sec. 3. The secretary-treasurer shall have charge of all books, papers, records
and other documents of the association; shall receive and have charge of all
dues and other moneys; shall keep a full and complete record of all receipts and
disbursements; shall keep the minutes of all meetings of the association
and the executive board; shall conduct all correspondence pertaining to the
office; shall compile statistics and other data as may be required for the use
of the members of the association; and shall perform such other duties as
may be directed by the convention or the executive board. The secretarytreasurer shall present a detailed written report of receipts and expenditures
to the convention; shall pay out no money until a voucher has been issued and
signed by the president. The secretary-treasurer shall publish the proceedings
of the convention within four months after the close of the convention, the
issue to consist of such numbers of copies as the executive board may direct.
The secretary-treasurer shall receive such salary as the executive board may
decide, but not less than $300 per year.
life Members.

The following were proposed as life members of the association,
by Miss Johnson, of Massachusetts: Andrew F. McBride, M. D., of
New Jersey; Miss Charlotte Carr, of Pennsylvania, and Mr. A. L.
Urick, of Iowa. Action was deferred and names referred to the
executive board for action as provided for in the constitution.




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Election of Officers.

The following officers were elected for the ensuing year:
President.—Maud Swett, field director woman and child labor, industrial
commission, Milwaukee, Wis.
First vice president.—James H. H. Ballantyne, deputy minister department
of labor, Toronto, Ontario.
Second vice presidmt.—W. A. Rooksbery, commissioner, bureau of labor and
statistics, Little Rock, Ark.
Third vice president.—E. Leroy Sweetser, commissioner, department of
labor and industries, Boston, Mass.
Fourth vice president.—Eugene B. Patton, director bureau of statistics and
information, department of labor, New York, N. Y.
Fifth vice president.—Judge T. E. Whitaker, industrial commissioner,
Atlanta, Ga.
Secretary.treasurer.—Louise E. Schutz, superintendent division of women
and children, industrial commission, St. Paul, Minn.
Place of Meeting.

Louisville, Ky., was selected as the place for the next annual con­
vention.
[The secretary was instructed to write to the individuals or organ­
izations from whom invitations were received to hold the next an­
nual meeting, but whose States by statute prevent delegates from
attending this convention, and say that those States had been ruled
out.]

FACTORY INSPECTION
[Dr. Eugene B. Patton, of the New York Department of Labor,
took the chair. Doctor Patton called on James T. Burke, chief
inspector of factories in Ontario, to read a paper on the subject of
the history and administration of factory inspection.]
Factory Inspection— Its History and Administration
By J ames T. B urke , Chief Inspector of Factories, Ontario

The different conditions relating to factory inspection have been
so thoroughly covered that I find it difficult to touch upon any
phase of industrial life that has not received attention. It, however,
is a well-known fact that practical legislation, together with its
proper enforcement, is the channel through which great reforms are
secured. It may be claimed, and very properly so, that under certain
circumstances general legislation would not provide equal justice to
all parties concerned; but, I think, where State and Provincial laws
are drafted on as uniform a basis as possible, improved results will
follow. It is also well known that Europe is the home of labor legis
lation; but in the European countries with good laws well enforced,
and equipped as they are with modern safeguards, I find that many
of their diseases and accidents compare with our experience in Amer­
ica and Canada. It seems to me that with the advent of civilization
diseases have increased, particularly those arising from industrial
processes, and I suppose we must submit to the inevitable. When
man ranged the prehistoric hills the maladies that beset him were
few and simple; in fact, it is claimed that he knew nothing of such
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cold, dampness, and exposure. Nourished by simple food and accus­
tomed to occasional enforced fasts, he was a stranger to Bright’s
disease and to appendicitis, as well as to the long train of nervous
and mental diseases; and, instead of fearing microbes and bad air
and drainage, he generally died from other causes, such as being
destroyed by wild animals, drowning, or being annihilated by men
of other tribes. As civilization advanced specialization came into
being, life grew complex, and bacilli began to play a part in human
affairs. The man who displayed unusual capacity for chipping flint
arrow heads, spent his entire time at the task and his customers, the
hunters and warriors, brought him his share of meat and drink.
This form of specialization developed groups of arrow makers.
Their work began to tell on them because all day they crouched over
their flints and inhaled the dust. In the course of time there arose
among them a tendency to grow hollow-chested and they began to
expectorate blood. This brought the human race face to face with
that terrible disease known to-day as the white plague. When the
stone age melted into the bronze age, new diseases developed.
Workers in copper began to be afflicted with sores, and so on. There
came into being many diseases. It became necessary for one whole
class of wise men, known as soothsayers, charm sellers, and ma­
gicians to cope with these diseases; but instead of destroying the old
diseases, it appears their doses and concoctions sometimes served to
create new ones. To-day we have inherited an unlimited store of
ills, with the result that in modern America it is a meek and lowly
organ that can not show two dozen fatal maladies peculiar to itself.
It is said that the brain has a thousand, and that the heart has fifty.
As civilization becomes more complex new diseases are being evolved.
I might refer to stonecutters, knife grinders, brass workers, and all
other wage earners who have to inhale dust of any sort day after
day, who suffer from disease. It is also said that city dwellers are
victims more or less. The lungs and bronchial tubes of a man in
the country are generally bright and rosy in appearance, whereas the
city man’s are usually dark and dull. Again, workers in chemicals
are subject to afflictions; take, for example, those who are employed
in the manufacture of rubber—they are often badly injured by the in­
halation of vapors, litharge, etc., but later they seem to become
immune to this poison.
In addition to this there are special forms of palsy affecting wood
sawyers, gold beaters, and clothing cutters, whose daily toil compels
them to use one particular group of muscles to excess. Men who
handle hides, wool, or cattle are sometimes infected with terrible
diseases peculiar to the lower animal. One of these is anthrax, a
malady common among all the herbivorous animals, but especially
so among sheep and among hoof cattle. This disease has been
known to cattle breeders since the dawn of history, but not until
1849 was anything definite learned about it. In that year Pollender,
a famous bacteriologist, pointed out that the blood of animals that
had died of anthrax contained numerous minute cylindrical rodlike
bodies, which were found to be bacteria. That these bacteria passed
through the two stages of bacillus and spore was later proved by
Koch, who also demonstrated that while the bacillus itself had a
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year or more. Furthermore, the spore could be immersed in boiling
water for five minutes without apparent damage while boiling water
kills the bacillus quickly. Drying destroys the bacillus but hardly
affects the spore. Any chemical capable of killing the anthrax organ­
ism is more than a match for all other germ eggs. Normally an­
thrax is not a human disease, but men who come in contact with
animals suffering from it sometimes become infected, and the result is
almost always fatal. There are said to be three varieties, correspond­
ing to three methods of infection—through the respiratory tract,
through the intestinal tract, and through the surface blood vessels—
that is, the disease may be acquired by breathing the dried germs into
the lungs, by taking them into the stomach, or by introducing them
into a cut or scratch upon the skin. The last-named is reported to be
the most common and the second the most rare. Thus we pass on
from one occupational disease to another and finally reach the ad­
vent of the twentieth century conditions.
The history of the International Association of Factory Inspec­
tors originated in 1886 when the late Henry Dorn (then chief inspec­
tor of workshops and factories in the State of Ohio) began, with
the view of organizing the factory inspectors into a compact body,
a correspondence with the late Rufus R. Wade (then chief of the
Massachusetts district police and chief inspector of factories and
public buildings, Boston, State of Massachusetts), L. T. Fell (chief
inspector of factories and workshops, Orange, State of New Jersey),
James Connolly (chief inspector of factories, Albany, State of New
York), and Harry Seibers (State inspector of factories and shops,
Milwaukee, State of Wisconsin). Their object in so organizing was
to throw around labor every possible safeguard in industry. Em­
ployers and employees can not help but honor and admire the sturdy
little body of men that met in the year 1887 in the city of Phila­
delphia and organized with little ado an association that was to
influence States and Provinces to adopt the most practical labor
laws.
However, at that time many well-meaning men looked upon fac­
tory inspectors with a certain amount of curiosity and sometimes
distrust owing to the fact that the work of such branches of govern­
ment was not understood. Captains of industry with vision dis­
covered that a compliance with laws lessened agitation among their
employees and that contentment followed; that it was a mistaken
idea not to cooperate with the factory inspector; and that a few
dollars expended for the purposes of protecting their employees
against injury was a good investment. This organization also aimed
at uniformity both as to the laws and the method of carrying them
out, and generally, objections met with were dispelled. To-day it
is a noticeable fact that legislation in favor of our industrial workers
has been the logical outgrowth of scientific knowledge applied to
practical experience.
Administration—How Shall the Inspector Act?

It would not do for the inspector, although having the power
under the statute, arbitrarily to condemn certain safety devices since
most of the devices which are claimed to conform with the law must
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cautiously in the matter of safety devices until he can see what in
his experience will prove to be the best, because from the beginning
of the safety movement a large number of those so-called “ safety
devices ” have been introduced and the inspector subsequently askea
to approve them.
It is not, however, difficult to create a mechanical device that will
operate under favorable conditions but when subjected to unfavor­
able treatment will not work. Therefore it is possible under the
adverse tests to compare its failure to operate with such tests as it
might pass through at the time of an accident to the employee. The
neglect of oiling, the lack of proper adjustment of parts, the wear
and tear of continual use, the poor workmanship or material in the
scramble of competition to satisfy a false economy with a lowpriced product, and the placing of equipment in some dark out-ofthe-way poorly lighted place to avoid using some valuable floor
space— all these factors must be carefully considered by the inspector
when administering the law. It has been said that the duties of a
factory inspector are distinct from those of any other officer, and the
qualifications necessary for the successful discharge of those duties
are of a different caliber, involving as they do mechanical knowledge,
good judgment, even temperament, and diplomacy, leaving their
legal powers in the background to be used as a last resort. To become
a success in his work the factory inspector must gain the confidence
of those with whom he has dealings. He submits many times with
patience and forbearance to the irritation of agent overseers,
master mechanics, or other executive officers. He knows that these
officials are busy men and to be called from their regular duties,
perhaps at a time when it is almost impossible for them to leave
the work they have in hand, is, to say the least, often very annoying.
It is therefore not at all surprising that, when they drop their work
and accompany the factory inspector, they act a little crusty or dis­
courteous. The common-sense manner in which such instances are
handled by the inspector affords such a contrast to their own man­
ner that these officials soon recognize the difference and, before pro­
ceeding far with the inspection their good will returns and a courte­
ous bearing is maintained throughout the inspection. The inspector
can without difficulty or much delay secure such changes and im­
provements as are deemed necessary. Suggestions and advice should
always be made in a pleasing and persuasive manner, keeping in
mind that he is dealing with a class of men having immense cares
and responsibilities, and having constantly to grapple with perplex­
ing problems, an irritated mind often being the result. Only tact
on the part of the inspector will prevent friction when he comes in
contact with such a man. He must at all times, under all circum­
stances, be self-possessed, dignified, and deliberate; as an intelligent
and profitable inspection of any large factory can not be made when
the inspector or his executive escort are not working in unison.
Again, when the inspector approaches one of the employees for the
purpose of asking questions he must exercise the greatest care and
use the best judgment. Most employees are rather timid and liable
to become more or less excited when spoken to abruptly by a stranger,
and such inquiries may result in injury to them or cause damage to
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The life of the factory inspector is not always a happy one; he
continually lives between two fires; yes, many fires—the employer of
labor, labor itself, and other critics. The employer—and I am glad
to say there are few of the class to which I allude—feels that he is
subjected to some laws which he terms unjust and finds it con­
venient to add to the inspector’s troubles by expressing in language
more questionable than polite his opinion of the law and the law­
makers making the factory inspector the target iov such tirades.
Here again tact can perform wonders. No department of en­
deavor affords a better opportunity for study of human nature than
the branch of factory inspection where the factory inspector comes
in close touch with people in all walks of life. The inspector when
he meets a man of the order mentioned, can succeed through his
knowledge of human nature and by tactful methods in changing
such antagonism into a complete acquiescent and loyal support.
The employee who finds fault because the factory inspector is
not enforcing some law, which, in fact, does not exist can also
learn his mistake through the inspector. These attacks are some­
times discouraging to the inspector who carries anxieties for the
safety of those employed in dangerous occupations. In fact, the
work of the factory inspector is that of the humanitarian.
How Factory Inspectors Can Best Assist in Accident Prevention
By A bthtjb M acN amaba , Assistant Deputy Minister of Public Works and
Chief Inspector Bureau of Labor, Manitoba

My subject to-day is “ How factory inspectors can best assist in
accident prevention,” and it was with a great deal of diffidence that
I accepted Mr. Ballantyne’s suggestion that I talk on this question,
because this is the first time I have had the pleasure of attending
a convention of your association and I felt that my brief should be a
listening one.
Factory inspection and accident prevention, however, are prob­
lems which have occupied a great deal of my time and thought dur­
ing the last 15 years; and I hope that my talk will have the effect of
starting discussion, because I feel that the value of a convention
such as this lies mainly in the exchange of ideas.
New government positions are being made each year because of
the demands on governments for new services, but we who are fac­
tory inspectors can boast of a history or background because our
occupation has been in existence for at least a century.
Perhaps the most ancient mention in history of provision being
made with regard to the care of those in industry is furnished by
the Roman writer, Pliny the Elder, who was born in the year 23 of
the Christian era, and lived through the reigns of the "Emperors
Caligula, Claudius, and Nero.
This ancient writer makes note of certain diseases and injuries to
which the slaves employed in the metal-working trades were sub­
ject, and the provisions that were made to prevent those diseases
and injuries, the motive being not so much humanitarian as eco­
nomic—in the interest of the owners of the slaves, and in the interest,
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If my object to-day was to lay the foundation for a family tree
for the occupation we factory inspectors follow I might claim re­
lationship to inspectors in the employ of the old Roman Emperors,
possibly driving 6-horse teams from job to job in chariots of bril­
liant hue—however, I simply leave the suggestion with you and
make no definite claims.
From the day of the charioteer many centuries elapsed before
there came into the world manufacturing establishments which could
even begin to compare with those of to-day. The year 1802 is
marked by the passing of the first of the long series of statutes
of the Parliament of Great Britain known as the factory acts, and
it was not until some 30 years later, 1833, to be exact, that factory
inspectors were appointed for the purpose of inspecting factories.
We, therefore, know that our occupation has a background of close
on to 100 years.
Surely we have good grounds for congratulating ourselves that
there is this background for our occupation as factory inspectors,
even if it is on the ground of the saying we often hear that “ the
first hundred years is the worst.” However, I think we have good
reason for feeling proud of our occupation when we compare the
conditions as they existed when the first factory act was passed in
1802 with what they are to-day, and I have no hesitancy in saying
that factory inspectors have had much to do with effecting these
improvements.
Contrast, for example, the condition reported as existing in the
Shrewsbury House of Industry in Great Britain in the year 1732.
A report I read recently speaks of children at the work of picking
oakum as working from 6 a. m. to 6 p. m. daily, and also of children
being set to work in the spinning room soon after they are 5 years
old, and in regard to another industry as follows: “ The children
are at school from 3 to 5 years old and from that age they are allot­
ted hours in the workroom; these are busy scenes of cheerful in­
dustry, whilst content smiles on every countenance.”
Picture any employer in this day and age attempting to employ
a child of 5 years of age!
In 1801 we read of an employer being sentenced to a year’s im­
prisonment in Birmingham, England, for working children on
an apprenticeship system under such conditions and for such long
hours that they became deformed and disabled for life; and under
Sir Robert Peel, in 1802, we read of legislation being introduced
lowering the hours of work for apprentices to 12 hours a day and
providing that separate sleeping apartments were to be provided
for different sexes and that not more than two were to occupy one
bed.
Picture any employers trying to get awTay with something of that
nature at this time!
Down through the years I contend that factory inspectors have
not only seen to it that the existing laws were complied with but
they also have had a great influence in bringing about new and better
legislation through reports to their respective governments and
through the influence they had among employers m bringing about
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of these reasons I think we have good and sufficient cause to be proud
of our occupation, and of the work done by those who preceded us.
It is well for us to think of the creditable accomplishments of
factory inspectors of the past because such knowledge can not but
inspire us to renewed efforts when it seems we are making little
progress in remedying some of our problems, the most serious of
which, in my opinion, at the present time is that of the frequency
of industrial accidents.
.
I am so seized with the seriousness of the industrial-accident
problem that I feel it is the greatest challenge facing employers
and employees to-day, and that it is a challenge not only to em­
ployers and employees but also to factory inspectors because it is
our concern.
You are all, I am sure, fully aware of the seriousness of the waste;
and I intend dwelling on this only for a moment.
The Labor Gazette gives the total of industrial-accident fatalities
for 1927, as 1,378 people in Canada. In our Province of Manitoba,
which is comparatively small industrially, we spend $1 for work­
men’s compensation for every $60 of pay roll and our total cost is
over one million each year. The National Safety Council estimates
between 23,000 and 25,000 deaths each year in the United States
from industrial accidents.
My conviction is that industry can be carried on without this
wholesale destruction of workers, and that while the problem is of
great magnitude it must be solved.
Now what can the factory inspector do about it? We can give
lots of alibis for ourselves, for example, we can point out that a
very small percentage of these accidents are due to faulty machinery
and in most cases, if this is the cause, the guard has been removed
since the inspector’s last visit and was not replaced; oh, yes! we
can find alibis aplenty!
If we follow this line and stop at protecting ourselves from blame,
we, in my opinion, have stopped far short of carrying out our full
duty and we are unworthy of our job.
The great majority of these accidents, as you well know, are
caused by some oversight or lack of thought— either some action
or lack of action by employer or worker^ or both—or are due pos­
sibly to a desire for speed, to be just a little quicker than the next
fellow—shall I say just a little more daring, to unskilled men at­
tempting skilled jobs, or to ignorance or lack of instruction. Many
of them appear afterwards to be due to some foolhardy action of
either employer or employee.
The factory inspector’s obvious duty is to see that the provisions
of the statute he is working under are carried out—that machinery
is properly guarded, that children are not employed, that maximum
hours are not exceeded, that licensed men are used when the law
calls for such—and to look after the many other matters which
are usually clearly defined for us.
He has, I feel, a far greater work beyond these routine duties in
so far as industrial accidents are concerned—he should, if you will
allow me to say so, become a missionary in preaching the gospel of
safety and so bring about a general realization of the appalling loss
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Let me mention specifically some of the things he can and should
do in addition to his routiilG duties:
Organization of safety Committees.—There are few I think who
do not agree that ill plants where there is an efficient safety organ­
ization accidents are reduced. My experience has been that this is
(he one best cure and that safety-first organizations should be a part
of every industrial concern; and where safety committees have not
been inaugurated by the management, the factory inspector should
be active* in forming such a committee. The type of organization
suitable for the various classes of industry should be carefully studied
so that when organized they will have the greatest success. There
is nothing so damaging to this phase of accident prevention than
to have a committee formed only to die a natural death.
No matter what form this committee takes there should undoubt­
edly be a place on it for the factory inspector. He will, by attend­
ing all meetings (which he should) be of great assistance in settling
problems with his wide experience behind him. He will be some­
what of a neutral between the employer and the employee. By hav­
ing access to all reports of accidents he can readily call attention to
the danger points in a particular plant and be able to spread from
plant to plant any valuable suggestions or plans he has seen or heard.
The very fact of his regular attendance will keep the matter alive and
so avoid the apathy which so often follows the initial enthusiasm.
I know of no way in which a factory inspector can fulfill the high
object of his office so well as he can by being an enthusiastic member
of every safety organization in his territory. His activities in this*
connection will be too numerous and varied to attempt a full out­
line of them.
Accident investigation.—A factory inspector is usually called upon
to investigate accidents in his district, or in any case he should do
so. In most cases an inspector could find out all the particulars
about an accident in a very few minutes, write a meager report, and
wash his hands of the affair; this would be the easy method, and
an indifferent inspector could no doubt u get by ” in this way, for
a time anyway.
It is not the method which I think should be followed. My
experience is that the regrettable circumstances of an accident can
be used toward preventing further accidents if the inspector takes
full advantage of them.
The more thoroughly an inspector inquires into the facts of an
accident in a formal way the more important does it appear in the
eyes of the management and workmen. If you call all those who
know anything about the case before you either in the shop, office,
or better still to your own office, and take a formal statement from
them, the more their minds will dwell on how accidents could have
been avoided. In taking statements it is often a splendid thing
to put witnesses under oath.
Another suggestion—seize the time shortly after an accident to
approach a reluctant manager about safety-first organization, or to
give you an opportunity to address the staff on accident prevention,
or to have some one else do so, such as your chief or the minister' in
charge of your service. This is a good time also to get that im­
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Special 'plant rules.—Factory inspectors should see that each
firm has its own safety rules which are specially applicable to their
plant. These should be printed and every employee be supplied with
a copy. New employees should not receive their full status until
they have an intelligent understanding of these rules, and they
should be required to sign a statement that they will observe them
fully. The inspector should be instrumental in initiating such a
system and should act in an advisory capacity in framing the safety
rules.
First aid and first aiders.—We all want accidents avoided, but
there should be in every shop men or women who know how to treat
an injury pending the arrival of a doctor. A factory inspector
should be a competent first aider. He should induce managers to
interest themselves in having a number of employees instructed in
first aid. He should make an intelligent check of first-aid kits and
be able to advise on what should be ordered. He should inquire
into the arrangement for the treatment of the injured, that is, the
location of the first-aid kit, how the first aider is called in the event
of emergency, and how quickly a doctor may be located. First aiders
in a shop naturally become leaders in safety work; in fact, my expe­
rience is that they come to be looked upon as very valuable employees
and are often given promotions which they might not otherwise
have obtained.
Relationship of inspector with employer and employees.—An in­
spector should strive to make himself a real influence in shop life so
that his opinions on safety work will have weight. This he can do
by extending his acquaintanceship among the employees and so con­
ducting himself that he will be trusted and respected by them. He
can do much in giving advice on personal matters such as compensa­
tion claims. He can also make himself valuable to employers in
many ways, such as advice on special machines, improvements in
methods, etc. Much of the cooperation sought from employers and
employees in accident prevention must be given on a voluntary basis
and the inspector’s success will depend to a great extent on the
value placed on his opinion, so he must see to it that he builds up a
feeling of confidence.
Clothing and 'tnethods of work.—Unsuitable clothing is often the
cause of accidents—loose sleeves, gloves with fancy gauntlets, and un­
suitable shoes are some of them. The inspector should be on the
watch for matters such as these and should not hesitate to approach
the men and management about them. Not long ago I had occasion
011 a large construction job to hold a boot examination and to ask a
number of men to go home and change their footwear. We were
having frequent foot injuries from nails and I found the trouble was
principally due to the kind of shoes worn. The action taken brought
about the necessary improvement.
Some men seem to have the knack of using the wrong method of
doing a job— the way they put on belt dressing, for example, or do
their oiling, or a hundred and one things, and an inspector can do a
great deal in the correction of such accident-producing methods.
Conclusion.—In conclusion let me say that the matters I have men­
tioned are only a few of the things directed toward accident preven­
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up and doing some of these things because the industrial accident
frequency must be reduced, and no man or body of men are in a
better position to help reduce them than factory inspectors. It is
“ up to us ” to show that we are worthy occupants of our classification.
Factory Inspection as a Profession
By E thel H anks V an B u sk irk , Special Investigator, American Association

for Labor Legislation

Exactly what governmental supervision through industrial inspec­
tion will accomplish in protecting employees in any State depends
first of all upon the industrial character of that State and the laws
which the legislature has passed to protect the workers. If you have
in your State important mining industries and only definite compre­
hensive laws regarding the hours of work for women, you are not
going to protect your miners to any great extent; or if you have
many textile industries that are exempted from the application of
the laws it is evident that many of your woman workers are not
going to be protected.
Assume, however, that the laws do apply and give adequate pro­
tection there still remains the all-important job of administering
them. The proper administration of laws enforced by inspection
methods depends as do all other types of laws upon an appropriation
ample enough to permit establishments to be visited with sufficient
frequency and the premises and operations to be examined with
such satisfactory thoroughness as to insure complete and continuous
legal protection, and to employ men who are aware of the educa­
tional aspects of their work. Just what amount is adequate for
these purposes no one yet has been able to point out conclusively.
And before it can be done several factors which affect the operation
of an inspection system must be considered and weighed carefully.
The effectiveness of an inspection system is based primarily upon
the organization of a department of labor. A strongly centralized
system in which the different divisions cooperate so that the inspec­
tion forces have the benefit of all research work; so that they are
informed of all contacts made by any other division with the firms
which they visit to enforce laws; and when in addition, the inspector
is the sole individual to deal with an employer, except in highly
technical matters upon which a specialist alone is competent to ad­
vise, several advantages result. Such a system saves the employer
the annoyance of frequent special visits; gives him the feeling of
coordinated action by the department; and enhances his respect for
the inspector as a responsible person. To the inspector it gives a
responsible “ man-size ” job to wThich he must give considerable
thought and attention. Thus, more intelligent and uniform protec­
tion is secured to the worker. In the long run, a system, in which
the inspector is qualified to represent fully the department of labor
is more economical.
If you ask any group of people to-day what a factory inspec­
tor is, the chances are you will be told that he is a policeman
who patrols the factories and prosecutes employers whom he catches
violating the laws. Most of us who lack the experience “ on the
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job ” fail to realize the many different factors which constitute the
inspector’s work. Also because of this lack of realization, we do
not consider that it may well be an interesting and attractive pro­
fession.
Let us inquire exactly what is expected of a representative of the
factory inspection bureau of a department of labor in discharging
his duty of securing compliance with the law and codes. In prac­
tically all countries and States he has to be familiar with two types
of laws—those relating to a plant’s physical equipment and those to
its operating conditions. Laws and codes relating to plant equip­
ment include the guarding of machinery; protection from fire, which
involves a knowledge of the construction of buildings; proper sani­
tation and ventilation, including humidity of workrooms; proper
lighting facilities; adequacy of exhaust systems for dust or fumes;
safety of elevators and other hoists; safety of walk ways and pas­
sages; and numerous other devices or conditions all designed for a
specific productive purpose. Laws relating to operating conditions
include regulations of the employment of women and children,
smoking regulations, clearance of fire exits, and provisions for com­
fort devices not precisely classified as working equipment.
To enforce the laws and codes relating to plant equipment, the
inspector must have accurate and ready knowledge of their applica­
tion, limitation, modification, and exemption for different industries
and processes. His specific job is to look for points of hazard. He
must therefore, first of all, be able to discover or “ see ” a hazard.
He must recognize, for instance, that the high-heeled shoes worn by
a certain woman at work which requires constant standing fatigues
her unnecessarily and is a constant contributing cause for an injury;
that a winding passageway to a fire exit constitutes an obstructed
passageway in case o f fire. This done, he must then study out the
best and most practical means of eliminating or protecting against
the hazard and by “ practical ” is meant so to guard or protect the
worker as not to interfere with production. In this second step he
may need to call in expert help, which, of course, should be available.
Later when protection has been accomplished according to his in­
structions, he must scrutinize it to see if the protection really pro­
tects—i. e., he must again be on the alert for danger points.
During the performance of his legal duty of prescribing the means
of protection, and in addition to it, the inspector has the responsi­
bility of demonstrating the advisability of his instructions to the
employer and, quite frequently, to the employee. He must show or
teach the employer both “ how ” to protect against injury and
“ why ” to protect against it. These instructions should usually be
accompanied by warnings as to the results in case of failure to fol­
low them. The educating of an employer is the inspector’s oppor­
tunity to “ put over ” certain safety principles. Teaching and edu­
cating the employer may easily become the most vital part of an
inspector’s work as well as the most painstaking and, in some in­
stances, the most tedious. It can be seen readily that an inspector
should—in fact, must— become an educational force if he is to secure
effective compliance or protection. It also should be obvious that
his ability must extend beyond mere literal knowledge of the law
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To discover violations of laws relating to a plant’s operating con­
ditions requires a different type of 44seeing ” ability—as these are
hazards, so to speak, which are easily hidden and from which no
immediate danger can be clearly shown; compliance is often incon­
venient and unprofitable, or at least the profit therefrom is difficult
to demonstrate. Under these laws the inspector must become conver­
sant with repeatedly tried means of evasion and be alert to discover
new ones. Once a violation is discovered, there is no involved task of
studying out the best method to guard against it nor of teaching
anyone the 44how 55 and 44why ” of compliance. It is a clear case
of securing evidence from records, interviews, or both, of ordering
compliance and perhaps resorting to the final recourse, court proce­
dure. In enforcing laws of this character the inspector is a police
detective with the same power to enforce his demands as any other
policeman.
Although laws relating to a plant’s operating conditions are sim­
pler in their application than those relating to its physical equip­
ment, continuous compliance is more difficult to enforce for the sim­
ple reason that noncompliance is not manifest after its occurrence.
Compliance with this type of laws does not stay 44put ” and the duty
of rediscovering the same violation must be repeated often in the
same plants year after year.
From the foregoing account of his duties let us next inquire into
the essential qualifications of the man to whom they are intrusted.
In addition to his knowledge of the law and codes, which in many
States means memorizing several voluminous textbooks, he must be
able to 44sell ” himself and his goods, namely, law compliance. To
start with, therefore, he must believe in his law and be sympathetic
with its requirements. He must be enthusiastic about his work and
he must have 44approach.” He must be able to teach anything from
the proper way to pile empty cartons or the necessity of keeping an
exit door unlocked to the proper way of looping cables or chains
over material on a crane or the necessity of an exhaust for fumes
from some specific process. He must also be able to teach such
diverse matters to anybody from the president or safety engineer
of a corporation with world-wide ramifications to a Polish baker
whose 1-room shop occupies the rear of his home lot. In addition,
he must be the kind of a man who can assert his authority, when the
occasion requires, in enforcing laws which are police measures and
yet understand how to 44handle ” this authority so as not to mitigate
against his educational work. To do his best for the workers of the
State whom he is sworn to protect he should have time to study
all subjects which bear directly or indirectly on his work. Finally,
he must be honest in his work and his reports. To sum up, the in­
dustrial inspector must be a man of character with the combined
ability of a research student, a teacher, and a policeman.
So far as I am aware, no parallel of an industrial inspector’s job
exists. In other law-enforcing agencies, such as health and fire de­
partments, reliance is placed largely on educational measures. In­
spection by casualty insurance companies is concerned solely with
the safety of a risk. Though their methods of safety inspection may
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attitude is very different. Within limits, an industry can “ take ot
leave ” their suggestions and pay accordingly. The methods of
safety supervision and inspection practiced by large corporations can
teach labor departments a great deal. Yet in none of these similar
tasks is there the combination of teacher and policeman.
Passing over any discussion of the necessary prerequisite qualifica­
tions for this work—a fertile field for consideration in itself—I wish
to call attention to the desirability of training an inspector after he
has entered the State service. Some large manufacturers regard the
training of a new employee, even in a minor process, so important
from the standpoint of production and safety as to compel him to
attend a school for several weeks. The foreman is not allowed to do
this work because he is rarely ever a teacher, and most certainly he
can not be a specialist in every operation in his department. In
addition, the new employee often is carefully instructed as to his
environment in the shop and his responsibility in keeping the shop
safe and sanitary. If a man is employed by an industry for any
work as responsible as that to-day placed upon a factory inspector,
there is 110 doubt that he would be put through a long, ardous,
intensive training before he would be adjudged capable of undertak­
ing the work. Regardless of his previous training or experience, he
would in all probability be a capable safety engineer for that
industry by the time his training was completed. Certainly the work
of inspection which, depending upon the specific State’s laws, ad­
mittedly takes a man from six months to two years to “ feel at home
in ”—i. e., to feel confident he can meet any emergency which may
arise during the day—requires special training in some division of
the department’s organization set aside for that purpose alone; and
the man’s training should not interfere with the inspection work of
the bureau. An inspector should become familiar with the many
industries and processes to which the various legal provisions apply.
He should be taught the “ how ” and “ why ” of his inspection duties
just as he is expected to do later with employers whom he meets.
The inspector who understands both the “ how ” and “ why ” of his
job is more likely to become interested in it, to turn out a better
quality of work, to be able to meet emergencies, to suggest valuable
changes in administrative regulations, and usually requires a mini­
mum amount of supervision.
I have attempted in this brief discussion to present the case of
the man (still regarded by many as the policeman who climbs the
stairs) upon whose ability and personality the State depends to do
the most basic work in all industry, namely, the preventive work.
Through this man as the representative of the department of labor,
the State must demonstrate its ability to protect workers not only
legally, but adequately, and its fitness to decide in a specific instance
the best protective measures, not the minimum. Through the inspec­
tor a State labor department must prove whether or not it is quali­
fied to become a conscious, effective and far-reaching educational
force for making places safe for the employment of human beings,
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Shall the inspector, therefore, upon whom all this responsibility
rests be regarded merely as a cog in a machine of whose efficiency
the best measure is that64he does what he is told ” or shall his status
be placed on a professional basis with its accompanying dignity?
DISCUSSION

Miss J o h n s o n . I would like to ask Mrs. Van Buskirk about the
training she would suggest for inspectors. She spoke about train­
ing after appointment; would she suggest special training before
appointment, and if so, what training ?
Mrs. V a n B u s k i r k . I do not feel qualified to say iust what pre­
liminary education an inspector should have. I think we can ulti­
mately arrive at some adequate standards of qualifications an inspec­
tor must have before he is qualified to enter. We must first study the
various methods of inspection in different States and countries. As
to whether we can establish standards now, I am not qualified to say.
Miss J o h n s o n . Would you say that they should have experience?
in industry as compared with other special qualifications?
Mrs. V a n B u s k ir k . Yes; they should have some industrial experi­
ence. I can not say what it should be. If you have worked in a
manufacturing industry, you will have secured an experience unequaled elsewhere. I have heard heads of labor departments state
that they preferred men with some industrial experience, chiefly
mechanical. Every inspector should be an industrial hygienist, and
for that reason I think he should have some mechanical training,
some training in hygiene, and I should also go so far as to suggest
normal training.
The inspector to-day has not yet come into his own, and I believe
he will be recognized as a potent force in preventive work only
through his own efforts. In the recent increase in salary the in­
spectors of New York received, most of the fight was put up by
the inspectors themselves.
Chairman P a t t o n . We have several inspectors present. Do they
wish to be heard, or, will they complacently pat themselves on the
back and say “ We are it?”
Mr. B u r k e . In Ontario we do not call our factory inspectors
policemen; they are not in the'same category as policemen—they
do not carry badges. As a pioneer factory inspector covering over
a quarter of a century, my observations have been these: I have
had university-trained people, but I can take a mechanic with a
moderate education and often he will accomplish a great deal more
than the university-trained men. Then I have had experience with
captains of industry who are not usually university-trained men, and
I have to try and use shop terms. If I can use shop terms, I can put
anything across much quicker than if I use technical language.
I know some of the pioneers in New York State, and I do not think
you will call them policemen. I know we don’t do that here.
Mr. S t e w a r t . I think, for the purposes of the record, that no
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When you get right down to bedrock, he is a policeman; in other
words, "his function in the shop is what a policeman’s function is
on the street, and his powers are the same,. What you call him is,
after all, a mere quibble.
The point Mrs. Van Buskirk makes about the inspector is his es­
sential ability to understand himself and his job, the law, and the
power behind it, and his ability, as she terms it—I don’t like that
way of putting it, but it is the modern way—to sell himself to the
other fellow. I wonder if that can be taught—poets are born, not
made—the ability to put across, to make the other fellow see it; I
want to put an interrogation point there, as to whether that can
be taught before employment or not ?
Mrs. V a n B u s k ir k . Quite true. But the natural-born salesman
or teacher needs to be trained in his specific line of work.
Mr. S t e v e n s o n . In regard to this paper on factory inspection, I
would like to say that this lady has presented a very fair paper. The
factory inspector in Canada is in no way recognized as a policeman.
While he has authority to enforce orders and even to go to court,
he very seldom goes there unless he is sure of his ground. In my
estimation, the factory inspector has to be more than that—he must
in all cases put things across and get what he wants, and make
a study of human nature. You go into a workshop and find a
dangerous condition; you want some machinery guarded; the em­
ployer or the superintendent is opposed to you when you go into the
place; you have to study that man and find out whether you can make
better headway with him by sitting down and discussing the matter
with him for a while than by putting a peremptory order on him.
My idea of factory inspection is that if you can sit down with a
man and talk the thing over, you will get results eight times out of
ten. That man will call the superintendent in and say that he wants
these repairs made right away, that he wants such and such a ma­
chine guarded, or anything else along that line. You can do more
by sitting down and talking with a man in authority in a plant than
by trying to force him through the law, because if you force him
through law, you get exactly what the law calls for and no more.
In the Province of Ontario, in our big foundries, the law calls for
shower baths and so forth for the employees. Go at a man in a
hostile manner, and he will say, “All right, I will comply with the
law,” and he will put a couple of shower baths in a corner, where
nobody will see them, whereas if you sit down and reason the thing
out with a man, what will be the result ? Eight times out of ten you
will get a nice large room, white enamel shower baths with curtains
between them, and very often a smoking room for the men when
they are not at work.
A iactory inspector should, in my estimation, come from the me­
chanical force. For a commissioner of labor and that sort of thing
we generally get a university-trained man, but a factory inspector, in
my estimation, to be a success has to be trained.
Of course I have had no experience south of the line, but I know
that when we start out in this country (in Ontario) we get training.
If the inspectors are composed of a printer, a machinist, perhaps a
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the chief generally sends you out with a man who instructs you from
the practical standpoint of his own business.
I want to say for the chief of this Province that he does his best
to instruct his men before he sends them on the road.
I happen to be an unfortunate printer who 10 years ago under­
took this work. I did not know very much about elevator work, or
anything of that kind, but I was never afraid to ask questions.
Take the question of elevator construction and safety; the chief
sent me to one elevator company. They kind of showed me over an
elevator, but it was not satisfactory to me. I went back and told
him so, and he sent me to another place where they had a wheel
erected right on the floor. The superintendent had his mechanics
show me the thing and explain it to me. That enabled me to go and
talk with the man and tell him what improvements I wanted, and
why.
Then there is the man you have to meet in the factory who will
take a suggestion. Some men absolutely abhor a written order to do
this or that within 30 days, but sit down and talk with them in a
friendly way, and in an hour or two, before you leave the office,
the superintendent is called in and told to make the repairs desired
throughout that plant.
I was glad that Mrs. Yan Buskirk referred to the fact that the
factory inspectors in the State of New York had received a raise. I
want to say that the factory inspectors I have come in contact with
[Meeting adjourned.]




FRIDAY, JUNE 7—AFTERNOON SESSION
W. A. Rooksbery, Commissioner, Arkansas Bureau of Labor and Statistics, Presiding

WORKMEN’S COMPENSATION
Chairman R oo ksbery . We have put in considerable work arrang­
ing this program, and I am sorry that it comes at the end of the
session, because many of the delegates had to leave last night, and
others are leaving this afternoon. The subjects that are on this
program should have more consideration than they will receive.
The papers to be presented will be of much benefit, especially to
those of us who live in the South and Southwest. Throughout that
section of the country we have started laying the groundwork,
which will be of great benefit in the future.
We have with us this afternoon a gentleman who has been of much
benefit to us especially in Arkansas, and in North Carolina, in com­
pensation work. It is through his efforts that a campaign has been
started in the South. North Carolina enacted its compensation law
at the last session. It is a pleasure to me to present Dr. John B.
Andrews, secretary of the American Association for Labor Legis­
lation, New York, who will speak to us upon the subject, the 64Sug­
gestive Trends of Workmen’s Compensation Laws.”
Suggestive Trends in Workmen’s Compensation
By J oh n B. Andrew s, Secretary American Association for Labor Legislation

In speaking of trends of workmen’s compensation in the United
States and Canada one might mention merely the most obvious de­
velopments.
It is clear that the movement has been in the direction of covering
the whole map with this most important of all modern labor leg­
islation. All Provinces of Canada and all States and Territories
of the United States except four laggards in the South (Arkansas,
Florida, Mississippi, and South Carolina) have joined the procession
since 1911. It marks a truly revolutionary adoption of a modern
principle in law and administration.
Beginning first with accidental injuries in extrahazardous employ­
ments the trend has been slowly but steadily in the direction of recog­
nizing that occupational diseases should also be included, and that
any industrial employment out of which a personal injury arises is to
the particular worker thus incapacitated distinctly a hazardous one.
Meanwhile, step by step, in the light of experience, compensation
laws have been made more nearly adequate. The compensation scale
has been raised, although much too slowly and not enough in many
jurisdictions. Medical care has likewise been “ liberalized ” to a con­
siderable extent, although still one of the most inadequate but im-

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portant compensation services. There is still to come full recogni­
tion by employers that the best medical care may be the most eco­
nomical.
All of these obvious trends in workmen’s compensation legislation,
observed over a period of nearly 20 years on this continent, offer
grounds for encouragement—particularly since there is every reason
to expect further continuous progress in perfecting existing legisla­
tion. There is even hope, since North Carolina this year adopted
the compensation system, that Florida (despite her sawmill lobby),
that Arkansas (despite her coal operators and “ ambulance-chasing ”
attorneys), and that Mississippi and South Carolina (despite their
appalling indifference) may yet join the procession of civilized Com­
monwealths and furnish to their industries this measure of modern
protection that is almost universally recognized as beneficial both to
the workers and to the employers.
However, for the present purpose, I wish to turn from the more
obvious trends in this legislation and to consider briefly the less
obvious, the less talked about, but in my judgment the no less import­
ant trends and influences of compensation law and administration.
These are perhaps the most significant trends for the consideration
of those who enforce our labor laws.
There has been a tendency in most States, during the experimental
years of putting workmen’s compensation into effect to let it over­
shadow in public interest and in financial support the other important
phases of labo^-law administration. The time has come for the
independent services of labor boards, departments, and commissions
to assert themselves and to take their proper position of importance
in the administrative picture.
No one familiar with the facts—as you most especially are—will
doubt that there is need, for example, of a much greater develop­
ment of a high-grade industrial inspection service. Mrs. Van Buskirk, from her exceptional opportunity for observation, has made a
plea for public recognition of the qualifications of efficient factory
inspectors. In another related inquiry into labor-law administra­
tion, in which I have been especially concerned, I have noted the im­
portance of the various systems of organizations of labor depart­
ments that have been set up. Later on, in another year or two, with
the continued indispensable cooperation of the Governmental Of­
ficials in Industry, we hope with our associates in the inquiry, to
submit a number of reports of findings.
What are some of the most significant trends in compensation laws
that appear suggestive for the use of those primarily interested, let
us say, in factory inspection ?
First. Compensation-law administrators have learned how to
finance their work without depending upon appeals for appropria­
tions from the legislatures.
In my own State (New York) the cost of administering the com­
pensation law alone is approximately $1,500,000 yearly. In recent
years, since 1918, in fact, this administrative cost has been divided
by the department of labor among* the insurance carriers in accord­
ance with the compensation paid, so that this part of the accident
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o f the other States already follow a similar practice.1 It is signifi­
cant that the latest two laws enacted have embodied this method.
That this device is capable of extension to the industrial inspection
field is shown by practical experience in the Province of Ontario.
Here much of the work of accident prevention is carried on through
inspectors selected by the various industrial groups under the work­
men's compensation board. The board supplies the funds for the
payment of the inspectors, and then the board levies the expense of
such work upon the respective classes of insured employers as a
part of their compensation insurance rates. In New York the com­
petitive State compensation fund has 25 safety inspectors who are
paid a total of $56,100 in salaries, in somewhat similar fashion, al­
though they are selected directly through civil service like other
employees of the New York Labor Department. These are but
illustrations, which could be multiplied if time permitted. Under
the exclusive State compensation fund in Ohio, for example, 1 per
cent of premiums is set aside for accident prevention.
Without stopping to weigh the advantages or disadvantages of
these newer plans, they are submitted as a challenge to the resource­
fulness of administrators of all other labor laws. Even the United
States Supreme Court has decided that the expense involved in the
vocational retraining of industrial cripples is a legitimate part of
compensation cost. It is only a step to bring the prevention of
accidents into the same category.
Second. Compensation law administrators have shown how to
impose effective penalties for the violation of labor laws.
In Wisconsin, since 1917, and in a number of other States more
recently, extra compensation must be paid directly by the employer
in case a child worker is injured while illegally employed. If it
is in violation of the working permit provision, double compensation
is to be paid; if a violation of the prohibited employment provision,
the normal compensation is trebled. The extra compensation must
be paid by the employer from his own pocket, without insurance.
Dr. E. E. Witte, chief of the Wisconsin State legislative reference
service, reports that: “ Considered as a penalty for violations of the
child labor laws, the extra compensation provision of the Wisconsin
compensation act is by far the most effective penalty ever devised.”
(American Labor Legislation Review, June, 1923, pp. 123-129.)
Here again, in compensation law trends, is a social invention in
American labor legislation which, in my opinion, is worthy of care­
ful study to determine its possibilities of wider usefulness as an
aid in labor-law administration.
Third. With the coming of workmen’s compensation there de­
veloped also a widespread use of the “ administrative order having
the force of labor law.”
These regulations grow out of a recognition by the legislature
itself that it is not equipped to deal in technical detail with many
problems of safety and health arising out of complex modern in­
dustry. Authority is delegated to the labor department to investi­
gate, confer, hold public hearings, and then issue administrative
1 Delaware, 1919; Georgia, 1920; Kentucky, 1916; Maryland, 1917; Missouri, 1926;
New Jersey, 1918; New York, 1918; North Carolina, 1929; Tennessee, 1919: Texas. 1925;
Virginia, 1918.
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Orders under a broad authorization to help make w ork conditions
safe.

This is a most important development in the United States since
1911. More than 20 States have authorized this procedure, which,
of course, has likewise been in operation in Canada. It has accom­
panied or closely followed the operation of workmen’s compensation
with its emphasis on accident prevention.
This order-making practice is highly important and very useful
in some States. My special study of this subject during the past
year, however, leads me to challenge anyone to say he knows or can
readily find out what the labor law is in the United States to-day.
Many of these orders are being issued without due regard to im­
portant procedure. They are often “ out of print ” if, in fact, prop­
erly printed at all. There is, after 18 years of this development, no
general index or summary annually published to guide the anxious
seeker after truth through the mazes of conflicting records and some­
times undated publications of such legal regulations.
I have been working on a plan for a periodical index of these
administrative orders, and I hope that in due course it will be made
available. At this point I wish to suggest that each labor depart­
ment might render an important service by giving special attention
to these orders, which when properly developed may be of great
service, not only in accident prevention but in the whole field of
labor-law administration.
There is not time enough for me to recount numerous other in­
teresting trends in compensation practice. I must conclude with
one more point, which I respectfully submit for your earnest
consideration.
Fourth. Compensation-law officials have furnished a suggestive
example of continuity of administrative office holding.
Most of the compensation laws are administered by a commission
of at least three members with 6-year terms, expiring one every other
year. This has some advantages over the hazard of complete change
of administration with change of governor.
I have not yet made detailed comparison of the tenure of office
among State labor and compensation officials to determine how
much longer, if any, State officials in this field are permitted to
serve during the past 20 years than they were prior to 1910. It is
my impression, however, that there is a tendency to give such men
an opportunity for longer service. Of course, in this connection one
must take off one’s hat to the Canadian Provinces, where, as in
Ontario, the commissioners “ hold office during good behavior ”
unless they are removed for cause or reach the age of 75. We in
the States have much to learn from the Dominion.
I shall deeply appreciate having any comments on these four
points which I have so briefly set up for criticism and suggestions.
DISCUSSION

Chairman R ook sber y . There is no question that Doctor Andrews
has given us plenty to think about.
Mr. B a l l a n t y n e . Like yourselves, I have only had the opportu­
nity of listening to the very excellent paper that has been read by
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there may be in making up your minds what the most salient features
or factors in connection with this paper are, I ask you to bear with
me in whatever judgment I pronounce on the several aspects of the
problem he has presented to us.
You will realize that the subject of workmen’s compensation is
primarily founded on whatever conceptions we may have of what
is termed in legal parlance “ common law.” It has always been held
to be the right of the individual under certain specified conditions
to find through the medium which society has provided legal redress
for any wrongs that may have been inflicted, and it is a reasonable
hypothesis that if a person is injured in the course of his employ­
ment through no fault of his own he is entitled to obtain legal redress
in a manner that is prescribed by law.
Now, it is also a tribute to the different opinions which we hold
as individuals, and also which we hold collectively, in our various
Provinces and in our various States that the forms of legisla­
tion which provide for workmen’s compensation, while showing
certain degrees of uniformity, show the local influence by the varia­
tions which are presented in the legal enactments.
In Ontario we believe that we have a law which protects the in­
jured person to the greatest possible extent, although it is a condi­
tion of this law that once a workman has agreed to place his interests
in the hands of the workmen’s compensation board, by so doing,
whatever rights he may have under common law are subrogated
entirely to the board that administers the act.
As you know, the case is not altogether dissimilar to the forms of
compensation or organization that have been created in the United
States, and cjuite lately in the Province of Quebec. There are many
features which compromise the interests which injured persons have
under what we term the common law. But leaving that aside for
the moment, although it is always important to remember as the
basic thing or one of the basic things upon which laws operate—if
we leave that aside for the moment we may be able to get on general
lines what is the trend in workmen’s compensation.
To my mind the most important trend in the work of compensation
laws is focussing the attention of employers on what is clearly pre­
ventable in carrying on productive functions.
Prior to the passing of compensation laws, State government offi­
cials found it extremely difficult to secure complete cooperation
of employers in making effective the various safety recommendations
that emanated from them from time to time, but since the adoption
and the enactment of compensation laws, I think it may be said
without any equivocation that State officials in the enforcement of
factory acts or similar legislation for safeguarding workers in indus­
try, have found at least that part of their work is much easier to
administer, because the employer is beginning to realize more and
more that the Government inspector, or the inspector that may be
engaged by the association which he himself creates, either individ­
ually or collectively, can and does give very valuable advice not only
in the prevention of accidents within industry itself, but in reducing
to the lowest possible minimum the rate 0 1 assessment which em­
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It does not make very much difference, such is the point of view
I take, as to whether the rate of compensation assessment on an
employer is levied by the workmen’s compensation board for the
purposes of building up a State accident fund, or whether it is levied
upon him for the purposes of paying premiums to approved in­
surance companies, the result in the last analysis is the-same, that
the employers will cooperate if the rate of assessment can be cut to
the minimum. It is an open question in my own mind, as to whether
the results from the operation of a State accident fund, or from the
handing over certain forms of compensation work to approved in­
surance companies is the best possible plan. I will be quite candid in
confessing to you that I have a great admiration for the type of
medical service that is provided by insurance companies in the United
States in matters of workmen’s compensation. I realize that in a
very great degree the preference of the injured workman is for his
own medical adviser to give him the necessary medical services;
nevertheless, while I appreciate the preference which the injured
workman is justly entitled to exercise, I feel that for his own
good and for the good of the country, that the more we can do to
encourage the injured workman to engage the medical specialist to
look after his injury, the greater is the benefit conferred upon the
injured workman to industry itself.
It ought to be quite apparent to most of us present that if one’s
bone is broken through engaging in industrial enterprise, it is far
better to secure the services of the medical man or woman, as the
case may be, who is well versed in the technique that applies to
the setting of bones, or of making broken bones better. It is better
to engage the services of a specialist in that line than to call upon
the ordinary everyday physician who attends to most of our ills.
I might enumerate many instances which would clearly demon­
strate that the engaging of a specialist to lessen the severity of
injuries to limb or eye, or any other part of the anatomy is the best
way to proceed, in reducing the severity of accidents as much as
possible and I think to a very great extent the insurance companies
who carry the insurance for industries do follow this practice and
probably to a greater degree than we do in the Province of Ontario.
I say this because while I appreciate the very great advantages that
accrue to injured workmen or their dependents by giving to them the
greatest amount of monetary consideration that is possible in lieu of
the injuries received, and while I agree that, whether it is through a
State accident fund or from an insurance company, the rate of com­
pensation should be kept at the highest possible point, yet that in
itself in my opoinion is not the only way to deal with the problem of
treating an injured workman. It is vitally important from the point
of view I hold, that the most adequate provision be made, in order
that the highest forms of specialized medical service be available for
injured workmen.
Doctor Andrews in the course of his paper, referred to the dif­
ferences that may arise in methods of administration relative to
compensation laws. May I point out to you that in the Province
of Ontario under the compensation act permission is given under
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their own establishments or for their own industries, and that it is
to the credit of the employers in this Province that to a very great
extent they have taken advantage of the privilege afforded them.
Active safety associations in the respective industries have been or­
ganized to a great extent, and Mr. Morley is the general manager
of such associations. The avowed object is primarily to reduce the
assessment under the compensation act to employers for the pur­
pose of augmenting the State accident fund, and while employers
are perfectly frank—and I rather admire their frankness—in so
stating, yet you can not very well reduce the rate of assessment for
the State accident fund without being inequitable. If you can not
reduce the frequency, you must reduce the severity of accidents.
I am not unduly alarmed as to whether the rate of frequency goes
higher or lower; as a matter of preference I would rather it should
go lower than higher. But one must not be unduly alarmed if the
rate of frequency is inclined to increase rather than decrease, because
those of us in this line of endeavor know that changes are ever taking
place in industrial processes, and it is only reasonable to assume
that men who may have been engaged for instance in the making
of roads, using almost exclusively the pick and shovel in order to
achieve the ultimate of good roads, must of necessity, on the prin­
ciple of adaptation, find sometimes a little difficulty in applying
themselves to the new methods that are constantly being introduced,
not only in the making of roads but in a great many other industrial
enterprises. I think that is apparent to all, simply because of the
fact that new kinds of appliances and different methods are
constantly being applied to industrial processes of many kinds,
and I am of the opinion that the rate of frequency of accidents
is not likely to decrease to any great extent. Recognizing the prob­
lem from the other point of view, that is, of lowering the level of
severity to the lowest possible point, I think the problem assumes
a different aspect altogether, depending upon one’s conception of
the problem from the viewpoint of severity and depending upon
what we may regard as the inevitable trend in regard to matters of
workmen’s compensation.
The point to emphasize in regard to the trend of workmen’s
compensation is this, that when accidents occur, as they do occur,
the utmost should be done, either by the State or the board appointed
bj the State, or by approved insurance companies, to provide
highly skilled or specialized medical service, in order to reduce to
the lowest possible minimum the severity of the accident. It falls
as a natural conclusion that automatically you reduce to the lowest
possible degree the severity of the accident. The economic benefits
that accrue are self-evident. That appears to me to be the greatest
line of endeavor along which workmen’s compensation should de­
velop. I care not whether it is administered through a State board
or through an insurance company. I stress the point because I
think it is important that adequate specialized medical service
should be given to the sufferer, in order to reduce the severity of the
accident to the lowest possible minimum, and I repeat, with all due
regard to the preference of the injured workman to engage the
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workman along such lines will be of immense benefit* not only to
himself, but to industry in general.
Another feature which I think is developing more and. more*
arising from the work of compensation laws and boards* is the
recognition that is being given to the tendency in industry to con­
tract certain diseases, which formerly were recognized as coming
from a congenital origin* I think Doctor Cunningham* a man who
has a great knowledge of medical matters, will be able to show you
later on in this session that within industry there arise to workers
great organic dangers to which they are subject* which formerly
may have been ascribed to the causes I have mentioned. The same
attention should be paid by insurance societies, insurance companies*
State compensation boards* or* under exclusive State control* to the
problem within industry 0 1 workers contracting certain diseases due
to the nature of their occupation. The recognition of this fact will
not only induce employers in particular and State officials as well
as all others who are interested in matters of workmen’s compensa­
tion to pay more attention to the actual working conditions of em­
ployees in industry so that the organic hazard to which they are
continually subjected in certain occupations will become fully
known* Employees themselves will become cognizant of the dan­
gers to which they are subjected during the course of their employ­
ment* and employers and workmen’s compensation boards generally
will take adequate means to reduce to the lowest possible minimum
the hazards to workers in industry from occupational diseases.
Mr. S t e w a r t . I would like to add one word. This year the Navy
Department of the United States has been empowered to use 1 per
cent of its appropriations for safety purposes. That is an entirely
new departure. It is the only department of the Government that
is doing any safety work, and it is the only one in which the safety
record or the accident record is anywhere near similar to that in
work on the outside.
There is one more point I wish to make in regard to the number of
States that are out in the cold. There are only four States that have
not passed some sort of compensation law, and I want to go on record
right here and now in saying that I consider that a State which has
a court administration form of workman’s compensation law is in a
worse fix than the State that has no law at all. We do not want
longer to ignore that fact. When Arkansas was considering a com­
pensation law I wrote to Mr. Rooksbery and said that unless he could
get a commission form of administration he should withdraw his bill;
and I again say that we should add to the States that have no effec­
tive compensation law all of those States which are operating under
court administration.
Doctor P a t t o n . I would like to say that I agree that the four
States which have no compensation laws should have them. I
regret that they do not have them. I would almost go so far as to
say that a State with a court administration is worse off than if it
has no law, but the recognition of the principle is worth something,
I also wrote to Mr. Rooksbery and said that if they could not get a
commission-administration law through the first year they should
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I think one reason why the Southern States, where wage rates
are low, have no compensation laws is that a large percentage of
the employees are negroes. There is not the same burden resting
upon employers in damage suits as there is in the East and North,
where wages are higher, and in certain sections the sky is the limit.
It depends upon the jury as to how much damage a man is going
to get; and these verdicts reach such high levels that employers
welcome workmen’s compensation in order to avoid these large ver­
dicts. That is not the case in the Southern States; it is due to the
low wages, and to the very large number of negro employees. That,
however, is no excuse for the absence of compensation laws.
Chairman R o o k sber y . We will now hear from Mr. Victor A. Sin­
clair, K. C., chairman Workmen’s Compensation Board of Ontario.
Some Aspects of Compensation Work in Ontario
By V ictor A. Sinclair , K. C., Chairman Workmen’s Compensation Board,
Ontario

It is a great pleasure to address such a distinguished body of
experts on these subjects, also to renew acquaintances made in the
past, and to make new acquaintances at the present meeting.
I have not prepared a set paper. I desire that my remarks shall
be informative, and I think the best way is to give some account
of the workings of the Ontario act, then leave it to you to ask any
questions which may be of interest. In that way the meeting will
get the information it desires in connection with compensation work.
I think the paper or the address which brings out the most ques­
tions is probably the most effectual in spreading information.
I may say with regard to the Ontario act, that this is the pioneer
act in the Dominion of Canada, under which the first workmen’s com­
pensation board in the Dominion was formed, and the act has been in
force since January 1, 1915; so that we have been in operation over
14, and nearly 15 years.
Our system, which has been known as the Ontario system, has been
adopted in most of the Provinces of the Dominion. All the Prov­
inces except Prince Edward Island, which is not industrial, have
now adopted legislation for workmen’s compensation, of which a
board is in control. Quebec has adopted the system of a compen­
sation board, but not a system of State insurance. This is the first
year of its existence, and it is carrying on through insurance com­
panies. The other Provinces are all carrying on under the Ontario
system, except the Province of Saskatchewan, which only recently,
after having the matter inquired into carefully by a commission, has
recommended the adoption of the Ontario system in that Province.
Such legislation has been passed, but not brought into effect in
Saskatchewan. So the Dominion will be pretty well under com­
pensation law and compensation boards from one side of the con­
tinent to the other.
I may say also that the Labor Party in England at the present
election and prior to the present election have been recommending
the adoption of the Ontario system in England, and the principle
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government in power, the probabilities are that the question will be
brought up for decision within the next year or two.
There are certain things we are proud of in connection with the
Ontario system. We give probably the most liberal benefits which
are given under any system.
Wnile we started out with a good deal of suspicion and disfavor
so far as employers were concerned, I think at the present time we
can say that our work is being regarded in the most friendly way,
and we are receiving undivided support from employers as well
as from labor.
Organized labor put itself on record about two years ago, after
an investigation of complaints in Ontario, as finding that less than
3 per cent of the cases handled by the board gave rise to causes of
complaint, so that we feel that if, with ordinary human frailty, we
have been operating with less than 3 per cent of trouble and dis­
satisfaction, we are not doing badly for ordinary human beings.
When you consider the expanse of territory which this board
covers, when you consider that our operations extend pretty nearly
as far west as the western boundary of Minnesota and very nearly to
the eastern boundary of the State of N^w York, you will understand
that we have a very wide jurisdiction. We have to deal with acci­
dents happening 1,200 miles to the west of us, 500 miles to the north
of us, and 300 miles to the east of us. That means a problem in
administration which prevents that close touch with all cases which
a State like Ohio, operated very much like our own system, can carry
on in an area of about 250 miles square. I think I am not very far
off in that estimate. You can therefore see that the problems we
have in regard to distances are much more serious in Ontario than
in some of the smaller States of the American Union, which of
course also adds to administration expense.
Ontario has also, I think, established a fair reputation as to
economy of administration, although we may possibly have to take
our hats off to Ohio on an administration percentage. Ohio’s cost
of administration is probably a little lower than that of Ontario, but
it has a very much bigger field to operate in, a greater pay-roll ex­
posure, and a great many more accidents than we have in Ontario
over which to divide the overhead.
During the past year our percentage of administration costs to
benefits awarded was about 4.49, or a little less than 4 ^ per cent,
divided into two classes-^4.76 in Schedule 1 and 3.33 in Schedule 2.
I was in England during the present year, and that was one of
the questions asked by the Government department in England,
How could we operate on such a low basis of administration costs?
They were very much interested; that was one of the wonders there,
where they operate with about 50 per cent going toward administra­
tion and payment to insurance companies.
There are other questions I thought you might be interested in,
and one of them is, on what points do we differ from your own
States? First, the board is composed of three commissioners ap­
pointed by the government of the Province of Ontario; and, as Doc­
tor Andrews said, they are appointed during good behavior or until
they reach the age of 75 years, and can be removed only for cause.
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The only changes we have had were two, one by death and one by
resignation and death a short time afterwards. So that we have
continuity of management in connection with the board in the
Province of Ontario.
Again I do not suppose there is any more absolute tribunal in
any country than the Workmen’s Compensation Board of Ontario,
because there is no appeal from our decisions. We are protected
from any legal proceedings; it is especially provided in the act that
we are not bound by any legal precedents, that we can deal with
any particular case according to the justice and equity of facts in
each case. If you can imagine any more extensive powers given to
any court, I would like to receive the suggestion. The board feels
that with this power given to them, the responsibility on the board
is just as great as the expanse of the powers given to it. The act
provides that every decision the board gives can be reviewed or
rescinded at any time, so that no decision of the board can be con­
sidered as absolutely final. All decisions are open to review by the
board, and the board does review cases time and time again, giving
the workman every chance to submit further evidence or submit
himself to specialists for opinion. The board tries to keep an open
mind, and has no hesitation in reopening a case of any kind and
giving to the workman the benefit of any evidence he can produce.
So that while there is no appeal except to the board, the board is
very free in granting appeals.
Any workman can write the simplest letter in the world, and as
much attention will be given to his case as will be given if he
comes before the board with the best counsel in the land. We try
to get at the facts in the most informal and complete manner pos­
sible. In that way, we are a most democratic board.
You will also be interested in the benefits provided. We first
pay full medical aid to all workmen entitled to it. That does not
mean simply the least he can get along with. We try to give the
workman the best medical skill we can give him, in case of difficulty.
We have full control of the medical aid furnished the man, if we
want to exercise it; but we endeavor to let the workman have his
own choice, subject to agreement between the workman and his
employer, if possible or feasible. A great many plants have
their own doctors, specially skilled in industrial medicine, and we
encourage the man to go to the doctor skilled in industrial medicine;
but if he does not like the doctor he can appeal to the board, and
the board decides whether he shall continue with that doctor or
whether another shall be employed. We do not get many appeals
to be relieved from the care of the surgeons in these large industrial
plants. If we do have an appeal it is usually from some other doctor
m the town who thinks the industrial doctor is getting too much of
the practice. The board only favors him to the extent that he is a
special plant doctor, always reserving the right to change the doctor
or give the workman such other attendance as is required.
In addition, we give the workman the best specialists in serious
cases. We have no hesitation in bringing a man 1,000 or 1,200
miles to Toronto to give him the best surgical attention we can get
if his case demands it, or if it is in the extreme western part of the
Province, we may send him to Winnipeg, where he gets the care
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Toronto. We give him the best surgical assistance to treat his case,
so as to get him back to his work again at the earliest possible date.
This medical aid inures to all, even if off for only one day.
We have temporary total disability, which applies to the man by
way of compensation when he is under medical care; we pay twothirds of the man’s average wage during that period; when he has
completed his period under the doctor’s care, he can have perma­
nent disability, provided these awards are then made. When the
injuries are in the nature of a definite amputation, such as the loss
of an eye, the loss of fingers, and so forth, something definite of
that kind, we have definite standards and definite percentages of
disability which we award in all such cases. If a man loses sight
of an eye, he gets 16 per cent disability; if a man loses his hand,
37% per cent and so on. The loss of two eyes, two feet or two
hands, means double disability for life.
In addition to that, at the end of the time, if we have workmen
in a condition where rehabilitation may be of some benefit td them,
the board is authorized to spend up to $100,000 a year for rehabili­
tating seriously injured workmen. That may not appear to be a
large sum, but it has turned out in actual practice to be more than
sufficient. The reason for that will appear when we realize that
it is a very small percentage of workmen who are more than 20
to 25 per cent disabled, probably not more than 300 or 400 in a
year who will be more than 25 per cent disabled and require
rehabilitation.
Then we have a large proportion of others who may have been
workmen without education, foreigners and others, incompetent
to take a,ny rehabilitation into other employment. The only re­
habilitation open to a workman of that kind is work, and we "have
the best assistance of many employers, upon whom we impress the
responsibility for the workmen injured in their plants; we press
upon them to take the handicapped men back. In that wav we try
to look after a man until he is able to proceed with work on a
regular scale again.
VVe have others who are competent to take training; we give
them business college courses, training in electrical work, radio
work, telegraph operating, and other particular lines of occupation
where training can be given to young people especially, so that
they can be put back into work. We also use the services of the
Government employment agencies, and we try to get our men back
to work in probably 75 per cent of the cases. In probably 75 per
cent of the cases which we have, of this limited number who are
seriously disabled, nothing but work is open by way of rehabilita­
tion. We have tried occupational therapy; we have tried physio­
therapy, and that seems to be attended with more or less success.
We find occupational therapy has two effects: Sometimes it improves
a man greatly, at other times it indicates to us whether a man
really wants to work or not, because if you put him at some work
which is ordered by a medical man as suitable and he refuses to do
it, we know that he is not anxious to get better.
In making our awards we have regard to how he behaves himself
under that treatment; so that we have rehabilitation after we have
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Then we have death cases; we award to the widow $40 a month
as long as she lives, or if she marries, two years’ allowance—$960—
is paid in a lump sum. We also give a cnild $10 as long as that
child is under 16 years of age, but payment ceases when the child is
16 except that in case of an invalid child payments may continue.
The limit of these payments is that the woman and children shall not
receive more per month than the husband would have been paid on
the basis of two-thirds of the husband’s average wage.
It is very necessary in the eastern part of the Province to see that
they should not exceed that liinit. The only limitation we have on
the amounts paid is that we do not pay on a basis of over $2,000
earnings per year. That is the highest award we can make—$25.64
per week, which represents a weekly earning at the rate of $2,000
per year. We do not exceed that in any case. The other limitation
I have given you on tlTe widow’s provision. These are practically
the only limitations we have. All awards which are over 10 per
cent disability are pension payments for life, and we do not willingly
commute into a lump sum, where the sum is over 10 per cent, be­
cause the spirit of the act is that the benefits shall continue to a dis­
abled man just as long as the disability lasts and that is during his
lifetime; otherwise we would have a man getting his money and
losing it through some business difficulties or poor management, and
he would become a burden on the public. When he gets the money
regularly he has some offset to the disability he suffers.
Our act is something like other English acts, in that it was born
in the spirit of compromise. You can not legislate just as you want
to. While the principle established is the collective responsibility of
industry for all accidents and losses in industry, that was not
logically carried out in the Province of Ontario, because we have
two classes of employers in this Province who are described in the
act as Schedule 1 and Schedule 2 employers. Schedule 1 is the
class which has collective liability—a collective liability and re­
sponsibility to all workmen in that class; and Schedule 2 is the class
of self-insurers. That arose because our big railroad systems, the
Canadian Pacific Railway and the Grand Trunk as it was then, and
other express and steamship companies said that they wanted to be
rated by themselves because they had a great many provisions for
safety and they did not think it was fair that they should be classed
with other industrials who did not have regular systems of their own
for accident prevention. The result was that to avoid such opposi­
tion as could be brought against the passage of the workmen’s com­
pensation act, they were permitted to become self-insurers. In that
class are the express companies, the railway companies, telegraph
companies, municipal corporations, and hydroelectric commissions.
We have that illogical condition. In class 1 the awards are paid
by the board out of the accident fund, while in the other case we
notify the employer that he has to pay so much money, and it is
paid by the employer direct.
There is another difference, and that is that the medical aid in
class 2 is furnished by the employers themselves. That is very
largely because the railroad companies, for instance, have their own
doctors all over the country and they have the right to supply med­
ical aid to the workmen in that class. The board has authority, if
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hospitalization, to make changes if it sees fit; so that in the end
they are all under the compensation board, except that the method of
paying the money is different in the two cases.
The act as drawn originally applied to all industry except
farming and domestic service, which were and still are expressly
excluded by the terms of the act. The board itself is given the
power to make regulations; and by such regulations a number of
other classes have been excluded from the operation of the act, that
is, classes where the hazard is very small, such as the wholesale and
retail business—there is seldom an accident in the business of run­
ning a store. They may come in by application, and we give them
a very low rate if they do so.
There are also a number of small industries from which it would
be impossible for the board to collect assessments. The only ones
we would hear of would be those that had accidents. Other indus­
tries are excluded according to the number of men employed—if
they do not have more than four workmen in some cases or six in
other cases. The Province of Quebec, I may say, can exclude all
industries which have not seven employees or over. The rights of
the workman under the act are absolutely independent of whether
his employer has reported to the board; every workman who has
suffered an accident in the course of his employment or any work­
man who is disabled by reason of the industrial diseases enumerated
in the act is entitled to get his compensation from the board,
whether or not his employer has reported to the board. The only
limitation is that he must have been disabled seven days, and that
his disability must not have been due to his own willful misconduct.
Those are the only two exceptions.
The employer who has not reported his operations to the board is
in bad shape, because he has to pay the usual assessment as well as
penalties for not reporting; he is also liable to pay the full costs of
the accident. We have many cases of serious accidents coming up,
involving thousands of dollars, and we have to get after employers
who have not reported to the board; sometimes it is worth while,
sometimes not. I may say that we do not usually exact the full
pound of flesh where the amount is over $100; we assess them about
50 per cent of the cost of the accident in addition to the usual
assessment.
Another point where our act has not been entirely logical is that
safety work has been reserved by the employers to themselves.
Most of the jurisdictions have it under the board’s control. The
Ontario board has no control over accident-prevention work, other
than the power of the purse. It makes the levies for the work on the
employers in Schedule 1; for convenience they are divided into 24
classes, that is, 24 rating groups, and we get in each one of these
groups a sufficiently large exposure pay roll, so that an exceptional
number of accidents will not cause the rate to teeter up or down.
Each of these 24 classes has the right to call a meeting of the em­
ployers in that class, and if they get a sufficiently representative
number of that class the board may recognize the association which
has been formed by that meeting for accident-prevention purposes,
and requirements ior money for accident-prevention work in that
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As a matter of fact, 18 of the 24 classes have this safety work and
are carrying out the work. Mr. Morley is the general manager of 15
of these and he asks for* subventions for each of these classes. They
are all governed by directors; these directors bring in their budgets
for the year, and the board levies on the particular classes their
share of the cost of the accident-prevention work.
Last year the board spent $115,000 in subventions, in this accidentprevention work. The Lumbermen’s Safety Association represents
the lumber class. It is a very active association, carrying on work
under great difficulty, because the employers in this group usually
have a very shiftless class of workers who are hired in the cities and
sent out to the lumber camps; these workers have no sense of re­
sponsibility, they have not been brought up to observe safety rules,
and they meet with pretty serious difficulties getting into and out
of the lumber woods. The Lumbermen’s Safety Association is carry­
ing on very effectively; and having due regard to the number of
accidents being paid for, the lumber class is about as good as any
we have.
Then the pulp and paper makers have an association of their own;
the electrical workers have an association of their own; and the mine
owners, who compose a very extensive class which had a very bad
accident experience a year ago when the Hollinger accident took
place costing the board $150,000, have formed an accident associa­
tion since that disaster.
Another class continually in trouble is the construction class, which
is constituted of some 12,000; they are in class 24, and it is absolutely
impossible to get a class of that size to form an accident-prevention
society which could be approved. We have power to subdivide this
class and we are taking those with pay rolls of $30,000 or over.
In our general construction class a safety association is being
formed; this class has gone to the extent of having a meeting held
and of being recognized, so we hope to get safety work under way in
the general construction class.
We have another class with a very bad accident experience, the
structural steel workers on high buildings in our cities. They are a
very fruitful source of accidents. The cost during the last year
was so great that we had to raise the rate of that class from $4 to $9
to cover their expenses. I am now in communication with promi­
nent members of that class who desire to form a safety association,
so that we expect to have a safety association in that class shortly.
That work is entirely under the control of each class. The board
simply has the power to award compensation, and it is up to em­
ployers to prevent accidents if they can. There is some very en­
thusiastic work being done by these accident prevention associations.
Take the Accident Industrial Prevention Association, of which Mr.
Morley is the head—they have meetings with 1,000 or 1,200 in at­
tendance, representing those in charge of compensation work in
connection with these classes. The annual meeting this year was
held in Windsor, which is in the western part of Ontario, and they
had present from 600 to 800 delegates, who went to the extreme end
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I feel that the enthusiastic and unselfish service employers are
giving to these associations must result in some decrease, if not in
numbers, at least in extent of severity of accidents.
You will be interested to know something about our accident ex­
perience. I may say that when I came on the board in 1925 we had
60,000 accidents that year. In 1927 we had 72,000 accidents, and in
1928 we had 80,000 accidents, and up to June, 1929, we are 20 per
cent over the number of last year at the same time. As a conse­
quence of that, we know there is an increase in the pay roll. Our
pay rolls last year increased 14 per cent, which was a higher per­
centage than the percentage of increase of accidents. We have a
pay-roll exposure in Ontario of $503,000,000, which we assess in
Schedule 1; so that we feel that we are getting into the billionaire
class, as regards our pay roll. Taking the question of the rate levied
as an index in our provisional figures, this year there has been a
slight increase in Schedule 1 to pay the accident costs in 1928; we
would have to levy a flat rate of $1.33 per hundred of the pay roll to
iy our accident cost. In 1927 our rate would have been $1.20.
ur adjusted rate for 1928, when we come to the end, may be slightly
less than our provisional rate, but that would rather indicate that
the accident cost had gone up somewhat but not to any great extent.
Take the accident cost to the board in money; awards were made
last year amounting to $7,068,000 in round numbers. Our figures
are going up again somewhat this year, but that is due largely to an
increased labor employment.
My time is very nearly up. There was one other question I
wanted to take up, namely, industrial diseases. We have the in­
dustrial disease list which was in the original English act, but we
have from time to time increased it. That can be done under our
act, either by legislation by Parliament, or it may be done by the
board itself by passing a regulation which is approved by order
in council. We do it both ways. To give you an instance, we had
legislation passed by Parliament which brought into effect compen­
sation for silicosis as an industrial disease, a little over two years
ago. We havei ^a<i to levy over $300,000 on the mining class in
connection with silicosis, and we are now examining every miner
who goes into employment in the mines. He must produce a cer­
tificate that he is free from diseases of the lungs before he can be
employed in the mines, and he must renew that certificate every year.
We had employers come to us in connection with deep sewer work;
their men were refusing to work unless they were given compensa­
tion—the board added caisson disease by their own regulation. We
had requests from the department of health owing to investigations
made by the industrial medical department, that we should put
chrome poisoning on the list. The regulation was made and sent to
the Government for approval. I f not objected to, within a certain
time it becomes law and chrome poisoning is added. So that our
work is progressive in that way. We assess the cost of all this
upon our employers. We have pay rolls of $503,000,000, with 24
classes; we try to make them self-supporting for all accidents and
all the costs of accidents during the year; we levy 368 rates in pro­
portion to the hazard and experience in these different classes in the
past year. Out of these 368 classes, 117 are increased, 100 decreased,
the other 151 remain the same.

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If there are any questions you desire to ask before I take my seat,
I will be glad to answer them if we have time.
DISCUSSION

Mr. S t e w a r t . I would like to ask Mr. Sinclair one question to
clear up a matter that I did not quite understand. In the first
place, he said that coverage was complete, and that the board had
the power and that it had excluded some small plants which were im­
possible to reach, and then he said that a man injured in employment
under the act would come in for compensation whether or not the
employer paid his premium. Is that so ?
Mr. S in c l a ir . Yes; where he reported his operations.
Mr. S t e w a r t . What I want to know is, is the workman who works
for a man employing three or so, excluded; in other words, does he
come in, and if not, does he have the benefit of the exclusion of
the liability defenses in case he sues?
Mr. S in c l a ir . He has the right given him by the act as amended,
to proceed against his employer.
Mr. S t e w a r t . Y ou do not proceed against the small plant ?
Mr. S in c l a ir . We do, except in the excluded cases, which are very
few.
Miss J o h n s o n . Are the excluded ones included in the small sub­
contractors—builders ?
Mr. S in c l a ir . They are excluded if they have only one workman.
Miss S w e t t . We have three other speakers on the program. Mr.
Eoach had to leave, so Mr. Urick is to read his paper.
Mr. U r ic k . Before reading this paper, I would like to take this
occasion to thank this organization for their kindly treatment dur­
ing this morning’s session. Many of those who have been identified
with this association during the latter years probably have not known
me, and the action taken was, I consider, not because of my activities,
but because of peculiar circumstances. I trust that in former
days when the organization was having hard work to exist I may
have merited some of the confidence reposed in me and have been
entitled at least to a part of the recognition at the morning meeting.
In connection with compensation, I want to speak for half a
minute. Miss Anderson and Miss Peterson were compelled to leave
during the afternoon session. They were specially desirous of
appealing to the representatives of the States for more complete
records, publications, and analyses of accidents occurring to women
in the United States. I will refer to the number of States that
have taken recognition of this fact: 13 States report accidents by
sex in their regular annual or biennial reports, 8 States formerly
reported by sex but discontinued in later reports; 7 States report by
age and sex, 4 others formerly reported by age and sex but not in
late reports; 7 States report by sex and extent and disability, but
4 other States have discontinued so doing; 4 States report by sex and
cause, while 2 States have at some time reported in this way; 11
States report by sex and industry, but 5 others have discontinued
these reports; 4 States report by sex and wage; 2 States report by
sex and time lost, while 2 others formerly reported in this way;
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The Women’s Bureau is decidedly interested in these statistics,
because they have recently, as some of you are aware, made a special
investigation of the causes of accidents, the extent of disability,
and the justness, really, of the compensation made under the com­
pensation laws. Such an investigation has been conducted in Iowa,
and I am free in saying that I think it will disclose at least some
things which will make toward more perfect administration of the
compensation law with relation to injuries to the female workers.
Industrial Poisons
By J ohn R oach , deputy commissioner o f labor, New Jersey Department of
Labor
[Read by A. L. Urick, of Iowa]

While the presence of industrial poisons presents a perplexing
problem that is more difficult to solve to-day than ever before because
of their wider use, the general experience of departmental enforce­
ment officers, on the other hand, would probably support the theory
that preventive measures are sought more eagerly by plant managers
now than at any other time in the history of our country. The
potential hazards introduced by chemicals are of a very different
type than are those that are caused by machinery because machine
hazards are visible and are generally understood by the supervising
forces in a plant, while the dangerous elements involved in a chem­
ical itself may not be known, or, again, it may in combination with
other chemicals develop poisonous properties that were not hereto­
fore understood. For the student of occupational-disease causes in
the ordinary range of chemical processing a large number of stand­
ard works have been printed outlining processing methods in indus­
tries that require the use of trade poisons, describing symptoms
of diseases, and in many instances advising measures of precaution
that experience and usage have shown to be helpful in preventing
workmen from injuring their health by causes arising out of their
employment. Departmental officials should take advantage to the
fullest extent of the facilities afforded by this type of information
and if possible a bureau should be established under the direction of
a technician trained in this branch of industrial supervision to
direct the inspection service and, if necessary, make special studies
and surveys when occasion would seem to require them.
The ancient practice of permitting operating conditions in indus­
try to destroy the health of workmen and then attempting to restore
the workmen to their original conditions by curative methods has
been entirely discredited in intelligent circles. Where industrial
lant medical practice has been organized in accordance with the
umane opinions of the present day, private industry has taken
great strides in the work of improving the technique of plant prac­
tices so that injurious effects may not be suffered by those employed
because of vapors, dusts, gases, or contact with harmful substances.
Despite all the precautions that may be taken, however, injuries do
result: and it is a cause for congratulation that, in many of our
States, workmen’s compensation laws have been passed either to com­
pensate workmen for every physical injury arising out of their
employment or for specific groups of occupational causes that experi­

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ence has shown to be the most important ones in the particular
Commonwealth affected by the legislation. In New Jersey an
occupational disease law has been placed on the books that provides
compensation for occupational injuries for the following group of
causes: Anthrax; lead poisoning; mercury poisoning; arsenic poison­
ing; phosphorus poisoning; mesothorium or radium necrosis; ben­
zene, and its homologues, and all derivatives thereof; wood-alcohol
poisoning; chrome poisoning; and caisson disease.
For the fiscal year ending December 31, 1928, 150 occupationaldisease cases occurred, causing the deaths of 9 people, permanent
partial disability to 19, temporary disability to 122, with 78,790 days
lost, and $85,000 paid to the victims for compensation. This record
for 1928 was double that of 1927, which would seem to indicate that
we enjoyed an improvement in the reporting of occupational-disease
cases. These occupational-disease cases are as follows:
POISONOUS AND CORROSIVE SUBSTANCES AND OCCUPATIONAL DISEASES, BY
CAUSES: COMPENSATED CASES CLOSED IN NEW JERSEY, 1928
Number of cases of—

Causes

Total Death, Per­
number or per­ ma­
of cases1 manent nent
total
dis­ *32 ?
ability bility

Medical cost
Total
number Total
Tem­ of days of amount
Num­
po­ disability of com* ber of
rary (weight
tion report­ Amount
la ­ ed)
ing
blllty

Poisonous substances

Arsenic
.......
All other (N. O. C.) (including gas­
oline fumes and indefinite gases)
(poisonous substances in water or
materials handled)......................
Dyes and chemical preparations of
same, etc. (handling material)__
Illuminating gas (including coal
Poison ivy and other plants..
Septic infection...................

28

$32

$40

48,543

64,434

852

179

370

22

67
593
3,614

92
973
6,510

299
17

19,994
5,200
846
12,209
602

35,153
7,399
1,428
14,861
1,074

7,010
1,865
117
28

206
6,730
3,770
198
44

Corrosive substances

Acids (i. e., nitric, hydrochloric,
sulphuric, carbolic and picric)___
Alkalies (i. e., soda and potash)___
Cement burns.............................. .
Lime burns.................................. .
Irritant but not corrosive.............. .

125
48
15
60
26

107
39
12

47
25

39
17
7
31
11

2,273
1,036
402
1,853
281

3
2
4
3
2

68
83
680
260
37

41

3,571

Occupational diseases

Anthrax........ ............................. .
Arsenic.............. ......................... .
Carbon monoxide......... ................
Compressed air (bends)................ .
Chrome ulceration.........................
Dust.............................................
Handling and preparing hides, furs,
etc.............................................
Heat and light (including heat from
asphalt—not burns)................... .
Lead poisoning. _...........................
Benzol, its homologues and deriva­
tives......................................... .
Occupational activity* (cellulitis,
etc.)...........................................
Total.

3
(1) 77
(1) 18

16

22

(1)3

40
24,221

77
23,602

(1)4

36,159

43,973

21

3,143

3,630

436

170,665

217,410

23
(2)523

(2)17

70

1Figures in parentheses show the number of permanent total included.
1Cellulitis cases due to cuts and bruises from falls or handling objects.




2,419
647
217

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According to this table, it can readily be seen that benzol and lead
were the chief offenders and that the number of days’ disability lost
from the other items in the occupational-disease group are compara­
tively nominal as measured against these two. The reason for this
probably is that benzol and lead are used in a larger number of
occupations than are any other of the substances for which compensa­
tion is paid. The very serious character of the risk that results from
the use of benzol in the industries in New Jersey is due to the fact
that it is commonly used as a diluent in compounds that are often
exposed in the open workroom and that permit the vapors therefrom
to pollute the breathing atmosphere. In the textile and animal
leather trades during the past three years 13 fatal cases were re­
ported to the State authorities. As benzol has been used in large
quantities for a period of 18 years in the State of New Jersey, it is
only fair to ^assume that these 13 cases are but a small percentage
of the actual fatalities that have resulted from the use of this sub­
stance and that during all these previous years physicians, unaware
of the toxic properties of benzol, did not diagnose poisoning cases
properly.
During the Great War the Department of Labor established
definite rules governing the production and use of nitro and amido
compounds, but it was not aware that it was slighting an industrial
menace that must have been taking its toll with regularity. The
use of benzol in wood and metal finishes has greatly increased the
scope of its use, while the practice of applying lacquers and finishes
containing this fluid by means of the spray gun has greatly in­
creased the risk that is ever present.
I can not see that we are going to get very far in prevention work
if we approve as sound from an engineering viewpoint the practice
of first polluting the breathing atmosphere of a workroom and then
by mechanical means attempt to purify the air and conserve the
health of the workmen who are employed therein. This method
has been suggested in many instances in the textile and animal
leather industries and in spray-brush operations. I am sure, how­
ever, that when the final page has been written in the book of health
conservation in the chemical industry this practice will not be ap­
proved, but rather, if means can not be provided for the prevention
of the pollution of the breathing atmosphere of workrooms, man­
dates will be issued forbidding the use under such circumstances of
this or other similar poisonous fluids. In the lead trades during this
past year an intensive investigation of operating methods, coupled
with a check on health conditions that obtain among workers who are
exposed has revealed the fact that poisoning cases that formerly
were not discovered are coming to light; and we are just beginning
to realize that something radically more effective than the installa­
tion of a fine wash sink, the maintenance of a brilliantly clean
lunch room, and the supervision of men by a doctor who may or
may not know much about the possibility of lead poisoning is abso­
lutely necessary if we are to give labor that protection contemplated
by legislatures when departments of labor were created.
The hazards that surround industrial occupations where trade
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ordinary form is not sufficient in any sense of the word to protect labor
during the course of its employment. An instance of this came to
light recently in a silk plant, where a cleansing preparation was
being used that contained a quantity of benzol. The plant manager
had been informed that the fluid was a petroleum product and he
did not know the difference between benzine and benzol. Two men
were taken sick, one died and the other was in a very serious condi­
tion when I saw him in the hospital. The manufacturer of the
cleansing fluid in selling his goods had simply cautioned the plant
manager to keep the workroom well ventilated, an admonition
which in the absence of more definite information was utterly value­
less. The cleaning operations in this plant had been noted by in­
spectors, but had occasioned no comment from them as they
evidently had considered them comparatively harmless. The ex­
periment, however, which resulted in one fatality and one case of
almost total disability would seem to show that unless inspection
service is based on such training and experience as would enable it
to detect the presence of a menacing occupational disease cause it
has no value. I am of the opinion that poisonous trade compounds
should be labeled with a statement that they are poisonous. This
kind of labeling in the case cited would have prevented the loss of a
human life.
Proper chemical control is one of the things that is needed badly
in the administration of this business and coupled with it should
be a more profound knowledge of the toxic properties of chemical
substances that are now used m many instances recklessly and with­
out proper discrimination. While "many of the large employers
of our country have surrounded their processing methods with
health safeguards, expert medical protection, and safety engineers
whose duty it is to enable the industry to operate without loss of
life or health, it would not be safe to permit the work of protecting
labor from the consequences of dangerous chemical operations to be
placed in private hands.
In a number of our States, the State health departments have
broad powers that enable them to investigate and carry on research
work and supply industries with much needed information, while
in other States, departments of labor are charged with the exclusive
jurisdiction of supplying industry with proper health safeguards.
In New Jersey, about tour months ago, an occupational-disease
clinic consisting of a skilled surgeon, a consulting chemist, a labora­
tory technician, and a deputy commissioner of labor (who was to
act as a liaison officer and make contact with industry) was created
to extend this work of protecting the health of the workers in our
poison trades.
Henry H. Kessler, M. D., has made the following statement of
the scope and purpose of this clinic:
The purpose of this occupational-disease clinic is to study scientifically
the cases of occupational diseases and to spread its knowledge among physi­
cians. Secondly to contact with all workmen apparently or decidedly affected
by occupational diseases in order to establish the diagnosis as well as to
examine systematically all workmen engaged in industries that are exposed!
to health hazards. With the exception of those physicians who are engaged1
in industrial practice the rank and file are unfamiliar with the unhealthful
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results in occupational diseases being called by other names making treatment
unsatisfactory because of the lack of diagnosis. Furthermore, compensation
rightfully due workmen affected by occupational diseases is often denied them
because of the lack of information on the part of the attending physician in
ascribing the symptoms to conditions outside their employment.
The clinic acts as an educational means of informing the medical profession
as to the existence of health hazards and by calling attention to the same
stimulates further interest in their recognition. Through the systematic exam­
ination of workers exposed to unhealthful trade conditions such as exist where
benzol and lead are used, cases of incipient industrial poisoning are weeded
out before conditions are so far advanced as to make remedy impossible. Diag­
nosis is alone attempted, treatment not being given. The patient is referred
to his family or attending physician for treatment with the report of the find­
ings made by the occupational-disease clinic.
The past few years have seen the onset of new occupational poisons or new
forms of old occupational poisons such as tetraethyl lead, benzol and radium.
The presence of such a technical bureau as the occupational-disease clinic is
of considerable help in initiating control investigation to ascertain the exact
cause of specific industrial illness. Furthermore, through the use of a proposed
library in which the entire medical literature is made available to the general
medical profession through the use of a museum with plaster models, specimens,
tables, charts, and photographs available to the public, a popular propaganda
is thus instituted to educate the public, the exposed worker, and the medical
profession to the dangers of their trades and to the hygienic measures that
should be instituted to overcome these dangers.
Two studies undertaken recently by the occupational-disease clinic brought
out in the lead-color industry, the marked degree of lead absorption to lead
dust, and the total inadequacy of the ordinary type of respirator to the respi­
ration of these injurious dusts. In another instance, in the case of workers
exposed to benzol fumes in the artificial leather industry, the use of the blood
count per se was shown to be inadequate in assisting one in making a diagnosis
of early benzol poisoning. Such studies are part of the routine of such a
clinic and through the information obtained through these studies clearer in­
formation concerning the nature, prevention, and treatment of occupational
diseases will be forthcoming.

We are enthusiastic about the possibilities that are contained in
the kind of work that will be attempted by this occupational-disease
clinic. When the radium cases first appeared in the New Jersey
industrial area the department of labor communicated with leading
authorities on radium poisoning in this and other countries and was
unable to obtain any definite information that would even lead to
the suspicion that radium paint was responsible for the diseased
condition of the victims. If we had had an occupational-disease
clinic to which we could have referred these early cases, undoubtedly
a great deal of information would have been available that might
have helped in protecting workers in this industry.
DISCUSSION

Doctor O betz . I think you will all agree that the paper which we
have just heard read is very interesting and brings up a number of
questions along this line. I think the outstanding sentence was the
one which states that it is of far greater importance to eliminate
the hazard and prevent the man becoming ill than to spend a lot
of time and energy effecting a cure after the illness has been started.
The great question, therefore, is to anticipate the real hazards, find
out what they are, and institute some means of eliminating them,
as was mentioned in the case of benzol in the artificial leather
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There seems to be no doubt in the minds of all that if a man’s
occupation is responsible for his illness, he should receive compensa­
tion the same as if he had sustained an injury.
Just what occupational diseases should be compensated seems to be
quite a question. Ohio has a list of 15 different subheads, under
which occupational diseases are listed. The last legislature has added
three more, and those will become additions to the list during the
coming month; they are manganese dioxide, radium poisoning, and
tenosynovitis.
Mr. Roach in his paper mentioned 150 cases filed during 1928, for
various occupational diseases. In Ohio we had 1,215 claims filed
during 1928 for occupational diseases; 84 were for conditions not
covered by the law, leaving a total of 1,131 compensable disease
claims filed.
Our statistics are gathered from the reports as they come in, on
the claims when filed. There were 148.273 compensable days lost in
this group; 30 of the claims were death claims, but only 20 were in
the compensable list. Ten of the 84 were not compensable.
The probable reason for the large number of cases is that Ohio
pays for dermatitis (diseases of the skin). There were 886 cases of
dermatitis reported. There were also 180 claims for lead poisoning,
which claims were credited with 89,672 days lost. There were only
9 benzol claims filed, 2 of which were classed as fatal; but those did
not occur in the artificial leather industry. Four cases wTere found in
rubber plants, 2 in furniture factories (probably from spraying in
different lacquers), 2 were found in paint-manufacturing establish­
ments, and 1 in aircraft (a man was cleaning a benzol tank).
About a year ago Doctor McBride wrote to our department stress­
ing the danger of benzol poisoning in the leather industry. We de­
cided to make a little investigation to see what hazard was existing in
Ohio. With that in mind we sent out a questionnaire and found
some plants in Cincinnati and a few along the northeastern boundary
that were coating leather with japan, in which benzol was used as a
solvent. In Cincinnati we found several large plants employing a
large number of men and their exposure to benzol was quite extens^e.
I believe one plant used some 490 gallons per week. Those of you
who are familiar with the artificial leather industry know that hides
are spread upon a large rack and a quantity of coloring is spread out
on the hides; then they take a brush like a whitewash brush and
spread it evenly over the leather. The men bend over the hides, and
are subjected to the fumes of the benzol. I could find no cases of
benzol poisoning having developed in the Cincinnati plants or, for
that matter, in the State.
Another source of danger was from the effect of the benzol on these
hides after being coated. In some plants the hides are dried in ovens
but in others they are hung in a part of the workroom to dry and the
employees are exposed to the evaporating benzol fumes.
In Cincinnati I visited Doctor McCord, and found that about four
years ago he had taken occasion to examine 33 men exposed to benzol
in these plants; these examinations included blood counts. These
men had been employed from a few weeks up to nearly 30 years; one
man, I believe, had been employed over 30 years. The lowest count
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When I went to Ashtabula, I was surprised to find that they had
a number of employees who had been exposed to this benzol hazard
for a number of years without any cases being reported of benzol
poisoning. We also found that women, as well as men, were exposed.
In Cincinnati only males were exposed, but in these other places there
were a number of women. It has been shown that women are prob­
ably more susceptible than men, and for this reason special care was
taken to inquire regarding all forms of illness; but from my investi­
gation I could find no history of any illness that could be attributed
to benzol among any of these employees.
Mr. Roach in his paper speaks of an occupational-disease clinic.
I believe that is a step in the right direction, because the hazards of
these occupations must be studied and a diagnosis made, and meas­
ures adopted to combat them when they are found, just as it is neces­
sary to have cogent rules covering various dangerous occupations.
The chemist and the laboratory diagnostician are of the utmost im­
portance, because it often becomes necessary for urinalyses and blood
counts to be made in connection with these various investigations.
I think Mr. Roach’s paper is a very excellent one. There are a
number of questions mentioned there which call to mind a line of
work which can not but be beneficial to all engaged in diseaseprevention work.
Yesterday Mr. Blake mentioned the disaster at the Cleveland
clinic. We have found that it is going to be necessary, in order to
solve the mystery regarding the origin of that fire and to find
what prevention will be necessary in the storage of films, to do a
lot of research work. There was a great loss of life from a rather
unusual hazard. I was informed just as I left the office that 27
death claims which had been filed by dependents of people who
lost their lives in that disaster are to be heard by our industrial
commission to-day. We are proud to think that these claims have
been completed to such an extent that they are ready for the com­
mission in less than three weeks from the time of the disaster.
Mr. S t e w a r t . I think we should get away from the assumption
that nothing exists, because it has not been reported. I think
Doctor Andrews will bear me out in this statement—that when we
undertook the investigation of phosphorus necrosis in the match
industry in the city of Oshkosh, where the match company had its
biggest concern and employed the most women, there was not a
dentist in the town who had ever heard of such a thing. A girl
would go to have her teeth fixed, the dentist would yank out a tooth,
and the jaw would collapse. The dentist would say that that was
hard luck; but he had never heard of phosphorus necrosis. Not one
case of “ phossy ” jaw was reported in Oshkosh.
Doctor A n d r e w s . I realize the importance of this subject from
the standpoint of practical legislation, and also from the standpoint
of real preventive work.
I do not find anyone who studies occupational-disease compensa­
tion who does not say that logically there can be no distinction
between a disability caused by an accident arising out of occupation
and a disability arising from an occupational disease. Industry is
just as much responsible in the one case as it is in the other; and the
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over, can not be based upon the cost of compensation as has been
asserted by some, because the compensation of all victims of occupa­
tional diseases would increase the cost of workmen’s compensation
by only 1 to 3 per cent, according to the insurance rate makers.
If it is illogical to draw a distinction between occupational diseases
and accidents in workmen’s compensation laws, it is also illogical to
distinguish between different occupational diseases. Justice, as well
as logic, requires that there be no discrimination in occupationaldisease compensation. And yet only 10 American compensation laws
use the “ all-inclusive method.”
Advocates of the “ limited list method ” admit that those who are
incapacitated by certain well-known occupational disease hazards
should be compensated. But they want to discriminate against the
helpless victims who, without knowing the hazards of their employ­
ment, are struck down by occupational disease and death. The house
painter knew the danger of lead colic. The inexperienced girl taught
to point her brush with her lips as she painted luminous dials in a New
Jersey watch factory knew not the lurking danger of death from the
so-called “ radium poisoning ” that crept upon her. The first was
compensated in New Jersey—the other was not. Was that just?
Commissioner Wilcox, of Wisconsin, says that he has never been able
to discover why anyone opposes all-inclusive coverage unless it is
because he doesn’t want the victims of occupational diseases com­
pensated.
The case of England is sometimes cited by those who defend the
“ specific schedule.” But they fail to note tnat England has also a
universal system of health insurance which takes care of a large
part of the burden of illness in that way. If all our States and
the Provinces had universal health insurance, they might have some
defense for singling out certain diseases, the entire burden of which
industry would bear. But compulsory, universal health insurance
does not exist in America; so at present the only method of pro­
tecting workmen against occupational disease is through workmen’s
compensation laws. If we are to follow closely England’s example
in workmen’s compensation, we should also follow her in health in­
surance. Otherwise our compensation laws should be framed to
meet our own problem of diseases due to employment and include all
occupational diseases under workmen’s compensation.
We all agree that we desire information about' occupational dis­
ease disabilities as well as about accident disabilities. Only so can
the disease danger points in industry be discovered. It is well
known that until we had workmen’s compensation laws for acci­
dents, probably not half of the total number were reported, even
under the best State reporting law. In New York, one of the most
experienced and efficient labor statisticians on the North American
continent found, as I remember it now, that while some 90,000 acci­
dents were reported the year before the workmen’s compensation law
went into effect, the number jumped to 225,000 the first year of the
law’s operation. Similarly, more information is to be expected from
the enactment of a law compensating occupational diseases.
Such information will contribute to the prevention of occupa­
tional diseases, which is one of the most important consequences of
all workmen’s compensation laws. Until we know where the dis­




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ease hazards are, and until the employers are made to feel an eco­
nomic pressure to prevent occupational diseases, we can not hope
to get very far in safeguarding workers from these most insidious
dangers of modern industry.
Progress is being made in the direction of all-inclusive occupa­
tional disease compensation. Commissioner Frances Perkins has
announced that the New York department, after several years’ ex­
perience with the limited, inadequate schedule method, will ask the
New York Legislature to extend the law to protect all victims of
occupational disease. America’s leading authority on industrial
poisons, Dr. Alice Hamilton, although once receptive to the schedule
plan, has recently branded it as a mistake. She now heartily advo­
cates all-inclusive protection.
These are but examples of a growing recognition that the allinclusive method alone is logical and just; and that it alone will pro­
vide the information and the pressure that will make it possible to
check the growth of occupational disease in industry. And those
State and Federal officials who have had the widest practical experi­
ence with occupational-disease compensation are emphatic in saying
that in practice the difficulties of such administration are no greater
than are certain features of accident compensation administration.
Government labor officials in every State need not hesitate to coop­
erate with compensation administrators, health officials, and other
public-spirited citizens in asking for the compensation of all occupa­
tional diseases.
Mr. S t e w a r t . Along the line of radium poisoning, let me say that
the doctors do not know anything about it, hence the cases are not
reported. Let us face the situation. Some years ago I made an in­
vestigation of phosphorus necrosis in the use of white phosphorus in
the manufacture of these things the boys throw on the sidewalks on
the 4th of July. Two-thirds of the cases had never been reported
at all. We have now as a result, years afterward, two cases in the
Johns Hopkins Hospital. One girl died there, and another is dying.
The records of the hospital show syphilis. When this radium poison­
ing came up the answer of the doctors was “ syphilis.” It is up to
the labor departments, if they have any control of occupational dis­
eases at all, not to wait until 12 girls are dead and 6 more dying from
radium poisoning, to do something.
The National Health Service called a convention in Washington.
There was a doctor there with the bones of a girl who had been dead
for seven years, and they looked like a firefly. They were still radio­
active, but he was not permitted to show that.
Now, you fellows in the medical profession who do know are
handicapped; and we can not afford to wait until somebody reports
a benzol case, when we know that wherever benzol is used it is dan­
gerous. We have to look for it on our own and not wait until some
doctor, who never heard of a benzol case or who doesn’t know any of
its symptoms, reports it.
Miss J o h n so n * I think Doctor Andrews’ suggestion is a good one.
I think it will be well to try to get uniformity in the laws, since one
o f our objects is to get uniformity in legislation. I wonder if it
would not be possible to pass a motion to that effect or to recommend
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to the incoming executive board the appointing of a committee to in­
vestigate the matter, and as far as the organization is able to do so,
to get the cooperation of the various State labor departments. I think
we should take some action. I will move, therefore, that this organi­
zation make every effort that can be made to bring the matter to the
attention of the various State departments and the Provinces, urging
that occupational diseases be included in the legislation under their
compensation boards.
[Motion carried.]
Miss S wett . The last paper on the list is the Best Methods to
Prevent Injuries from the Use of Industrial Poisons. We will now
hear from Doctor Cunningham.
Best Methods to Prevent Injuries from the Use of Industrial Poisons
By Dr. J.

Grant

Director Industrial Hygiene Division,
Department of Health, Ontario

C u n n in g h a m ,

Exposure of wage earners to poisonous substances used in industry
generally occurs in the form of repeated small doses. The effects
produced upon the body are often very different from those en­
countered after large single doses of poisonous substances such as
occupy the attention of the medical profession in medico-legal cases.
The defenses of the body attempt to neutralize and excrete or other­
wise deal with them. This may be successful for a time but
eventually the protective mechanism is worn out or some intercurrent
condition disturbs the balance and damage is done, often remote
but no less disastrous in its effects.
Because of the great variety of poisonous substances, their widely
scattered uses and in many cases the comparatively few persons
exposed, little is known concerning the effects of many of those
substances recently introduced.
Certain information is necessary if emphasis is to be placed where
it belongs in the prevention of poisoning: (1) What poisonous sub­
stances are being used and where they are being used; (2) what
degree of exposure exists and what exposure under industrial con­
ditions produces poisoning; and (3) what effects are produced to
enable us to recognize poisoning.
With reference to the first, the knowledge of industrial processes
will frequently indicate at once that known dangerous substances
are in use— fumes or dust of lead, arsenic, mercury, chromium, and
most of their compounds, free silica, benzol, and carbon bisulphide
are major hazards and should be fully guarded against. With ref­
erence to the less common substances and particularly many of the
organic substances in use the problem is more difficult." The labelling
of materials which produce fumes or dust in the course of process­
ing would be very desirable and might not be impracticable. In
the light of past experience with provisions of this type in drug
and patent medicine legislation the matter might receive some con­
sideration. Or, the onus might be placed on the employer to have
knowledge of the contents of the substances used as an alternative
to providing adequate preventive measures against poisoning, as­
suming in the absence of such knowledge that all substances are
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These suggestoins are made in an attempt to avoid the necessity
of requiring the installation of expensive equipment or other pro­
visions for the control of hazards which full knowledge or more
detailed inquiry might show to be of little or no importance.
With reference to the second point, in the case of many of the
poisons in use, knowledge of methods for determining the degree
of exposure and the amount of exposure which will produce poison­
ing is lacking and should be acquired as far as it is reasonably
possible to accomplish this.
The third factor, namely the diagnosis of poisoning, is of first
importance as a final test of the efficiency of other preventive meas­
ures adopted.
Regarding the preventive measures themselves, it is obvious that
poisoning will not occur if nonpoisonous substances are used. It
may not be practical under many circumstances to substitute non­
poisonous substances for poisonous substances, but this has already
taken place in isolated instances, for example, the partial substitu­
tion of toluol and its higher homologues for benzol; the use of zinc
oxide, zinc sulphide, and barium sulphate to replace lead for inte­
rior painting; and the use of low solubility glaze, bisilicate of lead,
in pottery manufacture.
One is impressed by the fact that sustained effort along such lines
is likely to produce results, not different from those accomplished
in other directions. For example, the enormous development of the
paint industry in the past five years in the use of solvents and dilu­
ents in the manufacture of lacquers has brought into commercial
use many substances which were chemical curiosities a short time
ago. New sources of supply and methods of preparation have been
evolved to meet a demand in commerce previously nonexistent and
therefore not met.
Such studies will at times involve fundamental considerations
which render their solution doubtful in a reasonable time. Special
staff and equipment must be maintained for such work which may
yield results in a short time, a long time, or not at all. An under­
taking of this kind is hardly practical for the individual plant but
might well occupy the attention of national research organizations.
In case of new substances introduced into industrial processes the
64toxicity ” might well be added to the specifications required to
be met before these substances are adopted for general use. There
are some indications that manufacturers would use facilities for
determining this were they available.
Granted the substances in use are dangerous, the most common
source of poisoning is their inhalation in the form of dust or fumes.
Of mineral dusts the presence of free silica is all-important; the
metallic dusts act in a similar way to metallic fumes, although less
rapid in action in producing systemic poisoning.
The control of dust is accomplished either by wet process or by
exhaust ventilation. Wet processes reduce very considerably the
amount of fine dust which enters the air breathed but can not be
depended upon to reduce the amount to below the danger line. An
instance occurred in northern Ontario mines where air samples
taken in the immediate vicinity of dry drilling operations showed
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of 2,000,000 to 6,000,000 particles per cubic foot were found at the
same operation with the wet drill in use.
We are all familiar with the importance of effective exhaust
ventilation in the control of dust fumes and how commonly it is
ineffective either because of improper installation or inadequate
maintenance. It is suggested that there is room for a careful sur' existing information upon which is based the installation of
ventilation equipment.
Improvements are constantly being made but the comparatively
recent development of the spray-painting machine emphasizes how
inadequate the best ventilating equipment is for the control of dust
and particularly of fumes. These are trying conditions under which
to apply tests but it will probably be conceded that spray booths do
not control the hazard. This is tacitly admitted in the provision
of legislation whereby men exposed to operations using certain
poisonous substances like lead or benzol are required to be examined
periodically to determine whether poisoning is taking place and to
remove them from exposure to substances, for the control of which,
at the same time, is required exhaust equipment, protective clothing,
and so on.
The use of initial and periodic physical examination as a means
for prevention of industrial poisoning is under present conditions
very important. Obivously, the value of physical examinations is
tremendously reduced if they result in the detection of poisoning only
after disability supervenes. To be of value, it must be possible to
recognize the earliest indications of poisoning. For a few of the
better-known poisons this is possible. For many it is not possible,
largely because under conditions of medical practice physicians do
not see patients until some time after symptoms have arisen. In
industry, it is possible to bring the physician and worker together
frequently, for physical examination, whether the worker complains
of ill health or not, which enables the physician to detect changes in
his physical condition which are more significant than the findings of
a single examination and to recommend his removal from exposure
before disability ensues.
The prevention of poisoning by the stimulus provided through
compensation for industrial disease is very important in some of
these but seems to be a small factor in others. Industrial poison­
ings which are associated with prolonged disability and death are
extremely costly and result in real efforts for prevention. Silicosis
is the outstanding one of these. On the other hand, a case of lead
poisoning accompanied by symptoms short of paralysis, where a few
days’ rest with elimination treatment enables the man to get on his
feet again and while in still poor physical condition to return to
some other kind of work, has little influence on the control of the
hazard if the employer by tolerating such a condition shows no
appreciation of what it means to his employee and himself.
This is no argument against compensation for such industrial
diseases as lead poisoning. Indeed, such well-recognized medical
conditions arising out of industry should be compensated if we are to
be consistent in the social attitude upon which workmen’s compensa­
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cal conditions which might arise out of industry would no doubt be
attended by serious difficulties. There are many cases of illness
wherein it is impossible to determine the importance of industrial
exposure either because the degree of exposure which would produce
poisoning is unknown or the changes in the substances after they
enter the body or the effects they produce are indistinguishable from
clinical manifestations due to many other causes.
This situation is unlikely to improve until physicians come into
closer contact with industry generally. It is in marked contrast to
poisoning from a substance like chromium and its compounds, the
effects of which have long been recognized, but the use of which has
recently been introduced into another process, namely, electroplat­
ing, apparently without any warning to the workmen exposed, result­
ing in painful persistent ulcers and rashes which cause marked in­
convenience and frequently loss of time and wages. This is hardly
excusable.
In the absence of information regarding the poisonous effects of
many substances in use, all should be regarded as dangerous involv­
ing the installation of expensive equipment or some attempt should
be made to find out the facts. Distinction should be made between
what is important and what is not important. It is not reasonable to
require elaborate precautions against substances such as ethyl acetate
or cobalt oxide, the toxicity of which is slight, while men are being
incapacitated by exposure to substances like lead, silica, benzol.
It is interesting to note that in the investigation recently conducted
by Smyth and Smyth in Pennsylvania, out of 10 solvents and diluents
used in paints and tested for toxicity, 1 stood out as being of first im­
portance, namely, butyl alcohol. Information of this kind will go a
long way toward indicating where the emphasis should be laid.
[The following paper was not read at the convention, but is in­
cluded here because of its interest and bearing on occupational
diseases.]
Specific Occupational Diseases
By Dr. A. J.

L an za,

Assistant Medical Director, Metropolitan Life Insurance
Co., New York

To attempt either to list the specific occupational hazards or to
describe them at length would be quite outside the possibilities of a
paper such as this.
Taking it all in all, the actual mortality and morbidity from spe­
cific occupational poisonings are small, however dramatic and tragic
individual cases or groups of cases may be. The absence of accurate
reporting of occupational poisonings makes the estimation of their
prevalence difficult, but when compared with the great bulk of dis­
ability from accidents, that from occupational disease must be quite
small. For reasons of cost, therefore, there should not be any undue
apprehension in including the specific occupational hazards within
compensation laws. Certainly from the standpoint of logic and jus­
tice there can be no reason for depriving the victim of a specific
occupational poisoning of the compensation he would have received
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from an injury. It is unfair that in many cases legal interpretation
confers an identical meaning on these two words—accident and
injury. I believe that it was on the occasion of the last annual meet­
ing of your association that the statement was made that to include
the occupational poisonings in compensation acts would not mean
an increase of cost of more than 1 per cent on premiums paid If
this is so, and I am inclined to believe that the statement is correct
in its implications, if not in precise accuracy, it should be given
wide publicity.
There are other factors than cost which enter into the reluctance
which is evidenced to enlarge the scope of compensation laws by
including these occupational diseases. The difficulties of diagnosis
are at once apparent. When a man has a broken leg, and the X-ray
picture defines the point and extent of injury there is little room
for argument. But when the claimant says he is sick and presents
a variety of symptoms, and one set of medical evidence is presented
to prove that these symptoms are due to the dust or fumes he has
inhaled while at work and other medical evidence is forthcoming
that no such relationship could possibly be the case, Solomon might
be at a loss.
If we are going to compensate for occupational illness, there
should be set up a medical referee or board of referees who would
determine whether the claimant has or has not the disease for which
he claims compensation. To leave the matter to ex parte medical
evidence presented before a lay tribunal is to cause unmitigated
confusion and defeat the ends of justice.
There is much argument at the present time as to whether occu­
pational diseases should be scheduled for compensation or whether
all such compensation should be encompassed in one blanket law.
Personally and for practical reasons I am inclined to believe that
the schedule is preferable; I believe that the schedule tends to pro­
mote the efficiency of the law and to facilitate its enforcement. As
far as abstract justice is concerned there should be no discrimination
as between occupational diseases. But there is a wide gulf between
passing a law and having it enforced so that it will fulfill the
intentions of those who drafted it.
Compensation laws for'occupational diseases are not going to be
administered in a satisfactory manner until the State officials, the
employers, the employees, and last, but not least, the physicians,
know a great deal more about the subject than they do now, and
there is nothing in the history of this country to warrant the assump­
tion that people are educated by legal enactment.
Let the States schedule such occupational diseases as the experi­
ence of the State department of labor and industry, of industrial phy­
sicians, and of other interested parties indicates as occurring in that
State with relative frequency. To adopt in toto the schedule of an­
other country or that of another State, as has been done in some of the
States and Provinces, is to stultify the law and negative its enforce­
ment. There are diseases scheduled in some of the States and Prov­
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I f schedules of compensable diseases are to be successfully admin­
istered, it is imperative that provision be made so that additional
diseases may from time to time be added to the schedule without the
necessity of going to the State legislature for authority. The State
official charged with the responsibility of administering the law
should be clothed with authority to add to the schedule diseases
which are found to be occurring in his State, otherwise the schedule
will lag hopelessly behind the needs of present industrial conditions.
Let the State bureaus interested devote reasonable time and study
to determine the extent of these scheduled diseases in their communi­
ties or the incidence of other specific diseases which should be added
to the schedule and let them publish their records annually in such
form that it may be possible to ascertain how much was paid in com­
pensation for occupational diseases, how many cases occurred, and
the various diagnoses. In that manner only can we build up a
knowledge of the situation with which we are trying to cope. This
implies cooperation with State boards of health so that when an
occupational disease is recognized, as occurring in the State, the
board of health may put it on the list of reportable diseases.
The American Public Health Association has a committee on
standard practices in the compensation of occupational diseases.
This committee is endeavoring to establish standards of diagnosis of
the more important and more prevalent occupational poisonings.
Later the committee hopes to establish standards of disability. The
personnel of the committee consists mainly of State officials who
come into contact with compensation and its problems. But the com­
mittee is hampered by the lack of information, which, while con­
tained in the various State records, is not in such form as to be
readily available.
SUMMARY

Compensation for specific occupational disease is just and neces­
sary, and should be so recognized by law regardless of the fact that
the total amount of compensation involved would probably be rela­
tively small.
Compensation laws for occupational diseases need to be carefully
thought out and require special machinery for their administration
if they are to be enforced with efficiency.
There should be available in State records annually the number and
nature of cases of occupational disease reported, the number compen­
sated, the amount of compensation, and the extent of disability.
Acts scheduling occupational diseases which are compensable
should be worded m such a way that the list of these diseases may be
added to or modified through some suitable procedure when need
arises without the cumbersome and prohibitive method of enacting
new legislation.
Finally every effort should be made to make possible comparison
of methods and results as between States which have the blanket law
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advantages and disadvantages of each system may be thoroughly
appreciated.
[Convention adjourned.]




HONORARY LIFE MEMBERS
G e o r g e P. H a m b r e c h t , Wisconsin.
F r a n k E . W o od , L o u i s i a n a .
L i n n a B r e se tt e , I llin o is .
Dr. C. B. C o n n e l l e y , Pennsylvania.
J o h n H . H a l l , Jr., Virginia.
H e r m a n W i t t e r , O h io .
J o h n S. B. D a v i e , New Hampshire.
R. H. L a n s b u r g h , Pennsylvania.
A l i c e M c F a r l a n d , Kansas.

American Representative, International Labor Office.
Dr. A n d r e w F . M c B r i d e , New Jersey.
A. L. U r i c k , Iowa.

Appendix A.—Association of Governmental Officials in Industry
Representation on Safety Code Projects
The Association of Governmental Officials in Industry has representation on
the following 22 safety code projects, 9 of which have been completed and ap­
proved by the American Standards Association.
A 9—Building exits code.
Representative.—Cyril Ainsworth, department of labor and industry, Harris­
burg, Pa.
Approved as American tentative standard, 1927. Further sections are to be
added, and work is proceeding on section 11, fire-exit drills, and section 25.
places of public assembly.
A 10—Safety code for construction work.
Representative.— (Vacant.)
Owing to an impasse due to lack of cooperation on the part of the Association
of General Contractors, the National Safety Council resigned as sponsor early
in 1928. General demand for code evidenced. Association of General Con­
tractors and Association of Governmental Officials in Industry invited to assume
sponsorship. No reply received from the Association of General Contractors.
A 12—Safety code for floor and wall opemngs.
Representative.—Edward E. J. Pierce, department of labor, New York, N. Y.
Last meeting held February 20, 1929.
A 17—Safety code Jor elevators and escalators.
Representative.—John P. Meade, department of labor and industries, Boston,
Mass.
Approved as American standard; 1925. The subcommittee on research, inter­
pretations, and recommendations has been called to make several interpretations
during past year. Material is being accumulated which will be available when
the new addition is undertaken.
A 22—Safety code for walk-way surfaces.
Representative.—Cyril Ainsworth, department of laber and industry, Harris­
burg, Pa.; Harry E. Mackenzie, department of labor and factory inspection,
Hartford, Conn.
Code-draft committee appointed to prepare a new draft code. Work now pro­
gressing under new chairman, Mr. Ainsworth.
B 8—Safety code for the protection of industrial workers in foundries.
Representative.— (Vacant.)
Approved as American tentative standard; 1922. No revision contemplated at
present.
B 9—Safety code for mechanical refrigeration.
Representative.—M. H. Christopherson, New York State insurance fund, New
York, N. Y.
Compromises have at length been worked out on a number of important mat­
ters by the sectional committee, and the resulting draft code was submitted by
the sponsor for the approval of the American Standards Association as American
recommended practice on January 25, 1929. It is now in the hands of the
executive committee of the safety code correlating committee for recommenda­
tion. The sponsor has instructed the sectional committee to proceed immedi­
ately with the consideration of multiple installations. No action on approval
has yet been taken.
B 20—Safety code for conveyors and conveying machinery.
Representative.—John P. Meade, department of labor and industries, Boston.
Mass.
No revision contemplated at present.
B 24—Safety code for forging, etc.
Representative.— (Vacant.)
Approved as American recommended practice; 1927.




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B 28—Rubber mills and calenders.
Representative.—E. Leroy Sweetser, department of labor and industries, Bos­
ton, Mass.
Approved as American recommended practice; 1927. No revision is con
templated, and no further work on rubber machinery is expected at present.
B 30—Safety code for cranes, derricks, and hoists.
Representative.—Eugene B. Patton, department of labor, New York, N. Y.
Four subcommittees are working on drafts, and good progress has been made.
C 2—National electrical safety code.
Representative.— (Vacant.)
Approved as American standard; 1927. No revision to be undertaken im­
mediately.
C 4—Safety code for electrical power control.
Project material has been distributed among other electrical projects.
K 13—Code for colors for gas-mask canisters.
Representative.—John Roach, department of labor, Trenton, N. J.
Tentative draft of code made in New York at meeting held in October, 1928.
Mr. Roach reported July 5, 1929, that Le had voted by letter ballot affirmatively
on code and anticipated it would be adopted.
L 1—Safety code for textiles.
Representative.—Cyril Ainsworth, department of labor and industry, Harris­
burg, Pa.
Meetings of sectional committee on this code to consider a third draft were
held in October and December, 1928. This code has been published by the
Bureau of Labor Statistics as Bulletin No. 509.
X 2—Safety code for protection of heads and eyes.
Representative.—John P. Meade, department of labor and industries, Boston,
Mass.
Approved as American standard; 1922. Revision and enlargement of scope
is proposed by the sponsor, Bureau of Standards. Statement clarifying pro­
posed expansion of scope has been requested, but has not been received from
the sponsor.
Z 4—Safety code for industrial sanitation.
Representative.—Thomas C. Eipper, department of labor, New York. N. Y.
Lately reported by the Public Health Service that a draft has been formu­
lated and is soon to be submitted to the sectional committee.
Z 8—Safety code for laundry machinery.
Representative.—C. B. Connelley, Carnegie Institute of Technology, Pitts­
burgh, Pa.
Approved as American tentative standard; 1924. No revision contemplated
at present, apparently, but proposed with a view to advancement of the code
to the status of American standard.
Z 9—Safety code for exhaust systems.
Representative.—John Roach, department of labor, Trenton, N. .T.
After years of inactivity it is believed that plans for work will soon be
sufficiently developed in some sections of th?s field. This will necessitate
probably several subcommittees for special work in different industries.
7 12—Safety codes for prevention of dust explosions.
Representative.—W. J. Burke, department of labor, New York, N. Y.
Approved as American standard; 1927, 1928. No immediate official revision
of the five codes completed is in view at present.
Z 13—Safety code for amusement parks.
Representative.—Thomas C. Eipper, department of labor, New York, N. Y.
Subcommittee work is progressing satisfactorily.
Z 16—Accident statistics.
Representative.—John Hopkins Hall, jr., department of labor and industry,
Richmond, Va.
No report in 1929 from chairman, Mr. Hall. In 1928 it was recommended that
committee be continued until revision of Bulletin No. 276, of the United States
Bureau of Labor Statistics, which has been placed in the hands of the American
Standards Association,




Appendix B.—List of Persons Who Attended the Sixteenth Annual
Convention of the Association of Governmental Officials in
Industry
Canada
Federal Department of Labor
F. J. Plant, chief of labor intelligence branch, Ottawa.
R. A. Rigg, director, Employment Service of Canada, Ottawa.
Alberta
Walter Smitten, commissioner of labor, Edmonton,
Manitoba
Arthur MacNamara, assistant deputy minister of public works, bureau of labor,
Winnipeg.
Nova Scotia
Norman McKenzie, deputy minister of public works and mines, Halifax.
M. MacDonald, Dominion Iron & Steel Co.
Ontario
James H. Ainsborough, factory inspector, Ontario.
Thos. B. Angrove, factory inspector, department of labor.
Edith L. Appleton, director women’s employment office, Ottawa.
N. N. Arnold, Industrial Accident Prevention Association, Toronto.
James H. H. Ballantyne, deputy minister of labor, Toronto.
W. T. Brennagh, factory inspector, department of labor.
James T. Burke, chief factory inspector, department of labor.
William Burns, safety engineer, department of labor.
H. A. Clarke, factory inspector, department of labor.
A. J. Cooper, superintendent employment office, Windsor.
J. W. Dayes, Industrial Accident Prevention Association, workmen’s compen­
sation board.
H. A. Desjardins, superintendent employment office, North Bay.
W. S. Dobbs, superintendent employment office (men’s division), Toronto.
T. E. Dowse, superintendent employment office, Cobalt.
W. C. Ferris, ex-superintendent employment office, North Bay.
H. G. Fester, Ontario Minimum Wage Board.
Marion Findlay, senior investigator, department of labor.
W. S. Forster, factory inspector, department of labor.
F. Francis, employment and safety supervisor, Bell Telephone Co.
H. C. Garner, superintendent employment office, Timmins.
L. F. Green, superintendent employment office, Belleville.
Mrs. E. Gurnett, factory inspector, department of labor.
Rae Halliday, superintendent employment office, Ottawa.
George Hamilton, superintendent employment office, Oshawa.
Nellie Hamilton, factory inspector, department of labor.
G. E. Hornell, factory inspector, department of labor.
H. C. Hudson, general superintendent, Employment Service of Ontario.
W. E. Hunt, superintendent employment office, Sault Ste. Marie.
Irene S. Johnson, superintendent employment office (women’s division), Ham­
ilton.
A. S. Johnston, superintendent employment office, Fort William.
L. O. R. Kennedy, superintendent employment office (women’s division),
Toronto.
W. H. Lott, superintendent employment office, Sarnia.




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H. Mabson, inspector, Industrial Accident Prevention Association.
E. H. Manor, superintendent employment office, Sudbury.
John Monteith, factory inspector, department of labor.
Tom Moore, president, Trades and Labor Congress of Canada.
R. B. Morley, general manager, Industrial Accident Prevention Association.
M. H. MacBride, superintendent employment office, Brantford.
J. W. MacMillan, chairman, Ontario Minimum Wage Board, Toronto.
Miss E. M. McKay, employment office, London.
E. W. A. O’Dell, representative Boot and Shoe Workers’ Union, Canada and
United States.
Miss Ogilvie, factory inspector, department of labor.
H. J. Peacock, superintendent employment office, St. Thomas.
V. C. Phelan, employment office, Ottawa.
M. H. Phillips, superintendent employment office, Kitchener.
Hugh Robertson, superintendent employment office, Peterborough.
George H. Ross, superintendent employment office, Pembroke.
John Ruggle, research, Toronto.
Mrs. Ellen Scott, factory inspector, department of labor.
W. A. Selkirk, superintendent employment office, Hamilton.
J. C. Spencer, superintendent employment office, London.
R. A. Stapells, Ontario Minimum Wage Board.
Hugh Stevenson, factory inspector, department of labor.
W. A. Stroud, superintendent employment office, Kingston.
A. W. Taylor, superintendent employment office, Guelph.
H. A. Winnett, factory inspector, department of labor.
A. C. Wood, superintendent employment office, Port Arthur.
A. J. Wright, factory inspector, department of labor.
J. F. H. Wyse, general manager, Ontario Safety League.
United States
Federal Department of Labor
Mary Anderson, director Women’s Bureau, Washington, D. C.
Charles E. Baldwin, assistant commissioner, Bureau of Labor Statistics, Wash­
ington, D. C.
E. N. Matthews, director industrial division, Children’s Bureau, Washington,
D. C.
Agnes L. Peterson, assistant director Women’s Bureau, Washington, D. C.
Ethelbert Stewart, commissioner, Bureau of Labor Statistics, Washington, D. C.
Arkansas
W. A. Rooksbery, commissioner, bureau of labor and statistics, Little Rock.
Mrs. W. A. Rooksbery, Little Rock.
Miss Louise Rooksbery, Little Rock.
Colorado
M. H. Alexander, deputy labor commissioner and chief factory inspector, Denver.
Delaware
C. W. Dickey, manager, compensation division, Du Pont de Nemours Co., Wil­
mington.
Georgia
H. C. Carrington, administering workmen’s compensation act, Atlanta.
Judge T. E. Whitaker, commissioner, department of commerce and labor,
Atlanta.
Iowa
A. L. Urick, labor commissioner, Des Moines.
Kentucky
Edward F. Seiller, chief labor inspector, department of agriculture, labor and
statistics, Louisville.




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179

Massachusetts
Ethel M. Johnson, assistant commissioner of labor and statistics, Boston.
Gen. E. Leroy Sweetser, commissioner of labor and statistics, Boston.
Mrs. Sweetser, Boston.
Minnesota
Henry McColl, chairman industrial commission, St. Paul.
Louise Schutz, superintendent division of women and children, industrial com­
mission, St. Paul.
New Hampshire
John S. B. Davie, commissioner of labor, Concord.
New Jersey
Charles R. Blunt, commissioner of labor, Trenton.
John Roach, deputy commissioner of labor, Trenton.
New York
John B. Andrews, secretary American Association for Labor Legislation.
W. J. Burke, chemical engineer, bureau of industrial hygiene, department of
labor.
Lewis A. DeBlois, manager safety engineering division, department of labor.
Marguerite Marsh, research secretary National Consumers’ League.
Dr. Eugene B. Patton, director bureau of statistics and information, depart­
ment of labor.
Mrs. E. H. Van Buskirk, special investigator, American Association for Labor
Legislation.
Ohio
William T. Blake, director of industrial relations, Columbus.
E. I. Evans, actuary Ohio State fund.
George F. Miles, director of employment service, Columbus.
Dr. W. E. Obetz, medical director division of safety and hygiene, department
of industrial relations, Columbus.
Pennsylvania
Cyril Ainsworth, director bureau of industrial standards, department of labor
and industry, Harrisburg.
John S. Spicer, chief accident investigator, department of labor and industry.
A. Lyle Linderman, member industrial board, department of labor and industry,
Harrisburg.
Wiscons'in
Maud Swett, field director, woman and child labor department, industrial com­
mission, Milwaukee.







LIST OF BULLETINS OF THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS
The following is a list of all bulletins of the Bureau of Labor Statistics published since
July, 1912, except that in the case of bulletins giving the results of periodic surveys of the
bureau, only the latest bulletin on any one subject is here listed.
A complete list of the reports and bulletins issued prior to July, 1912, as well as the bulle­
tins published since that date, will be furnished on application. Bulletins marked thus (*)
are oat of print.
Conciliation and Arbitration (including strikes and lockouts).
• No. 124. Conciliation and arbitration in the building trades of Greater New York.
[1913.]
♦No. 133. Report of the industrial council of the British Board of Trade on its inquiry
into industrial agreements. [1913.]
No. 139. Michigan copper district strike. [1914.]
No. 144. Industrial court of the cloak, suit, and skirt industry of New York City,
[1914.1
No. 145. Conciliation, arbitration, and sanitation in the dress and waist industry
of New York City. [1914.]
♦No. 191. Collective bargaining in the anthracite-coal industry. [1916.]
♦No. 198. Collective agreements in the men’s clothing industry. [1916.]
No. 233. Operation of the industrial disputes investigation act of Canada. [1918.)
No. 255. Joint industrial councils in Great Britain. [1919.]
No. 283. History of the Shipbuilding Labor Adjustment Board, 1917 to 1919.
No. 287. National War Labor B oard: History of its formation, activities, etc.
[1921.]
No. 303. Use of Federal power in settlement of railway labor disputes. [1922. ]
No. 341. Trade agreement in the silk-ribbon industry of New York City. [1923.1
No. 402. Collective bargaining by actors. [1926.]
No. 468. Trade agreements, 1927.
•No. 481. Joint industrial control in the book and job printing industry. [1928.]
Cooperation.
No. 313. Consumers* cooperative societies in the United States in 1920.
No. 314. Cooperative credit societies in America and in foreign countries. [1922 ]
No. 437. Cooperative movement in the United States in 1925 (other than agriculture).
employment and Unemployment.
♦No. 109. Statistics of unemployment and the work of employment offices in the
United States. [1913.]
No. 172. Unemployment in New York City, N. Y. [1915.]
♦No. 183. Regularity of employment in the women’s ready-to-wear garment indus­
tries. [1915.]
♦No» 195. Unemployment in the United States. [1916.]
No. 196. Proceedings of the Employment Managers’ Conference held at Minneapolis
Minn., January 19 and 20, 1916.
♦No. 202. Proceedings of the conference of Employment Managers’ Association of
Boston, Mass., held May 10, 1916.
No. 206. The British system of labor exchanges. [ 1916. ]
No. 227. Proceedings of the Employment Managers’ Conference, Philadelphia, Pa.,
April 2 and 3, 1917.
No. 235. Employment system of the Lake Carriers’ Association. [1918.]
♦No. 241. Public employment offices in the United States. [1918.]
No. 247. Proceedings of Employment Managers’ Conference, Rochester, N. Y., May
9-11, 1918.
No. 310. Industrial unemployment: A statistical study of its extent and causes
[1922.]
No. 409. Unemployment in Columbus, Ohio, 1921 to 1925.




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Foreign Labor Laws.
4
♦No. 142. Administration of labor laws and factory inspection in certain European
countries. [1914.]
No. 494. Labor legislation of Uruguay. [1929.]
Homing.
♦No. 158. Government aid to home owning and housing of working people hi foreign
countries. [1914.]
No. 263. Housing by employers in the United States [1920.]
No. 295. Building operations in representative cities in 1920.
No. 500. Building permits in the principal cities of the United States in [1921 toj
1928.
Industrial Accidents and Hygiene.
♦No. 104. Lead poisoning in potteries, tile works, and porcelain enameled sanitary
ware factories. [1912.]
No. 120. Hygiene of the painter’s trade. [1913.]
♦No. 127. Dangers to workers from dusts and fumes, and methods of protection.
[1913.]
♦No. 14i. Lead poisoning in the smelting and refining of lead. [1914.]
♦No. 157. Industrial accident statistics. [1915.]
♦No. 165. Lead poisoning in the manufacture of storage batteries. [1914.]
♦No. 179. Industrial poisons used in the rubber industry. [1915.]
No. 188. Report of British departmental committee on the danger in the use of
lead in the painting of buildings. [1916.]
•No. 201. Report of committee on statistics and compensation insurance cost of
the International Association of Industrial Accident Boards and Com­
missions. [1916.]
♦No. 209. Hygiene of the printing trades. [1917.]
♦No. 219. Industrial poisons used or produced in the manufacture of explosives.
[1917.]
No. 221. Hours, fatigue, and health in British munition factories. [1917.]
No. 230. Industrial efficiency and fatigue in British munition factories. [1917.]
♦No. 231. Mortality from respiratory diseases in dusty trades (inorganic dusts).
[1918.]
♦No. 234. Safety movement in the iron and steel industry, 1907 to 1917.
No. 236. Effects of the air hammer on the hands of stonecutters. [1918.]
No. 249. Industrial health and efficiency. Final report of British Health of.M uni­
tion Workers’ Committee. [1919.]
•No. 251. Preventable death in the cotton-manufacturing industry. [1919.]
No. 256. Accidents and accident prevention in machine building. [1919.]
No. 267. Anthrax as an accupational disease. [1920.]
No. 276. Standardization of industrial accident statistics. [1920.]
No. 280. Industrial poisoning in making coal-tar dyes and dye intermediates.
[1921.]
No. 291. Carbon-monoxide poisoning. [1921.]
No. 293. The problem of dust phthisis in the granite-stone industry. [1922.]
No. 298. Causes and prevention of accidents in the iron and steel industry, 1910-1919.
No. 306. Occupation hazards and diagnostic signs: A guide to impairments to be
looked for in hazardous occupations. [1922.]
No. 339. Statistics of industrial accidents in the United States. [1923.]
No. 392. Survey of hygienic conditions in the printing trades. [1925.]
No. 405. Phosprorous necrosis in the manufacture of fireworks and in the prepara­
tion of phosphorous. [1926.]
No. 425. Record of industrial accidents in the United States to 1925.
No. 426. Deaths from lead poisoning. [1927.]
No. 427. Health survey of the printing trades, 1922 to 1925.
No. 428. Proceedings of the Industrial Accident Prevention Conference, held at
Washington, D. C., July 14-16, 1926.
No. 460. A new test for industrial lead poisoning. [1928.]
No. 466. Settlement for accidents to American seamen. [1928.]
No. 488. Deaths from lead poisoning, 1925-1927.
No. 490. Statistics of industrial accidents in the United States to the end of 1927.
Mo. 507. Causes of death, by occupation. (In press.)




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Industrial
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.

Relations and Labor Conditions.
237. Industrial unrest in Great Britain. [1917.]
340. Chinese migrations, with special reference to labor conditions. [1923.1
349. Industrial relations in the West Coast lumber industry. [1923.]
361. Labor relations in the Fairmont (W. Ya.) bituminouss-coal field. [1924.3
380. Postwar labor conditions in Germany. [1925.]
383. Works council movement in Germany. [1925.]
384. Labor conditions in the shoe industry in Massachusetts. 1920-1924.
399. Labor relations in the lace and lace-ourtain industries in the United
States. [1925.]
No. 483. Conditions in the shoe industry in Haverhill, Mass., 1928.

Labor Laws of
No. 211.
No. 229.
No. 285.
No.
No.
No.
No.

321.
322.
343.
370.

No.
No.
No.
No.

408.
444.
467.
486.

the United States (including decisions of courts relating to labor).
Labor laws and their administration in the Pacific States. [1917.]
Wage-payment legislation in the United States. [1917.]
Minimum-wage laws of the United S ta te s: Construction and operation.
[1921.]
Labor laws that have been declared unconstitutional. [1922.]
Kansas Court of Industrial Relations. [1923.]
Laws providing for bureaus of labor statistics, etc. [1923.]
Labor laws of the United States, with decisions of courts relating thereto.
[1925.]
Laws relating to payment of wages. [1926.]
Decisions of courts and opinions affecting labor, 1926.
Minimum-wage legislation in various countries. [1928.]
Labor legislation of 1928.

Proceedings of Annual Conventions of the Association of Government Labor Officials of the
United States and Canada. Name changed in 1928 to Association of Governmental Officials
In Industry of the United States and Canada.
♦No. 266. Seventh, Seattle, Wash., July 12-15, 1920.
No. 307. Eighth, New Orleans, La., May 2-6, 1921.
No. 323. Ninth, Harrisburg, Pa., May 22-26, 1922.
No. 352. Tenth, Richmond, Va., May 1-4, 1923.
♦No. 389. Eleventh, Chicago, 111., May 19-23, 1924.
♦No. 411. Twelfth, Salt Lake City, Utah, August 13-15, 1925.
No. 429. Thirteenth, Columbus, Ohio, June 7-10, 1926.
No. 455. Fourteenth, Paterson, N. J., May 31 to June 3, 1927.
No. 480. Fifteenth, New Orleans, La., May 15-24, 1928.
Proceedings of Annual Meetings of the International Association of Industrial Accident Boards
and Commissions.
No. 210. Third, Columbus, Ohio, April 23-28, 1916.
No. 248. Fourth, Boston, Mass., August 21-25, 1917.
No. 264. Fifth, Madison, Wis., September 24-27, 1918.
♦No. 273. Sixth, Toronto, Canada, September 23-26, 1919.
No. 281. Seventh, San Francisco, Calif., September 20-24, 1920.
No. 304. Eighth, Chicago, 111., September 19-23, 1921.
No. 333. Ninth, Baltimore, Md., October 9-13, 1922.
No. 359. Tenth, St. Paul, Minn., Septemberf 24-26, 1923.
No. 385. Eleventh, Halifax, Nova Scotia, August 26-28, 1924.
No. 395. Index to proceedings, 1914-1924.
No. 406. Twelfth, Salt Lake City, Utah, August 17-20, 1925.
No. 432. Thirteenth, Hartford, Conn., September 14-17, 1926.
No. 456. Fourteenth, Atlanta, Ga., September 27-29, 1927.
No. 485. Fifteenth, Paterson, N. J., September 11-14 , 1928.
Proceedings of Annual Meetings of International Association of Public Employment Services.
No. 192. First, Chicago, December 19 and 20, 19 13 ; second, Indianapolis, September
24 and 25, 19 14 ; third, Detroit, July 1 and 2, 1915.
No. 220. Fourth, Buffalo, N. Y., July 20 and 21, 1916.
No. 311. Ninth, Buffalo, N. Y., September 7-9, 1921.
No. 337. Tenth, Washington, D. C., September 11-13 , 1922.
No. 355. Eleventh, Toronto, Canada, September 4-7, 1923.
No. 400. Twelfth, Chicago, 111., May 19-23, 1924.
No. 414. Thirteenth, Rochester, N. Y., September 15-17, 1925.
No. 478. Fifteenth, Detroit, Mich., October 25-28, 1927.
No. 501. Sixteenth, Cleveland, Ohio, September 18-21, 1928.

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Productivity of Labor.
No. 356. Productivity costs in the common-brick industry. T1924.]
No. 360. Time and la|)or costs in manufacturing 100 pairs of shoes, 1923.
No. 407. Labor costs of production and wages and hours of labor in the paper boxboard industry. [1926.]
No. 412. Wages, hours, and productivity in the pottery industry, 11)25.
No. 441. Productivity of labor in the glass industry. [1927.]
No. 474. Productivity of labor in merchant blast furnaces. [1928.]
No. 475. Productivity of labor in newspaper printing [1929.]
Retail Prices and Cost of Living.
♦No. 121. Sugar prices, from refiner to consumer. [1913.]
♦No. 130. Wheat and flour prices, from farmer to consumer. [1913.]
No. 164. Butter prices, from producer to consumer. [1914.]
No. 170. Foreign food prices as affected by the war. [1915.]
No. 357. Cost of living in the United States. [1924.]
No. 369. The use of cost-of-living figures in wage adjustments. [1925.]
No. 495. Retail prices, 1890 to 1928. (In press.)
Safety Codes.
*No. 331. Code of ligh tin g: Factories, mills, and other work places.
No. 336. Safety code for the protection of industrial workers in foundries.
No. 350. Specifications of laboratory tests for approval of electric headlighting
devices for motor vehicles.
No. 351. Safety code for the construction, care, and use of ladders.
No. 375. Safety code for laundry machinery and operations.
No. 378. Safety code for woodworking plants.
No. 382. Code of lighting school buildings.
No. 410. Safety code for pap.'r and pulp mills.
No. 430. Safety code for power prosses and foot and hand presses.
No. 433. Safety codes for the prevention of dust explosions.
No. 436. Safety code for the use, care, and protection of abrasive wheels.
No. 447. Safety code for rubber mills and calenders.
No. 451. Safety code for forging and hot-metal stamping.
No. 463. Safety code for mechanical power-transmission apparatus— first revision.
Vocational and Workers' Education.
♦No. 159. Short-unit courses for wage earners, and a factory school experiment
[1915.]
* No. 162. Vocational education survey of Richmond, Va. [1915.]
No. 199. Vocational education survey of Minneapolis, Minn. [1917.]
No. 271. Adult working-class education in Great Britain and the United States.
[1920.]
No. 459. Apprenticeship in building construction. [ 1928. ]
Wages and Hours of Labor.
♦No. 146. Wages and regularity of employment and standardization of piece rates
in the dress and waist industry of New York City. [1914.]
♦No. 147. Wages and regularity of employment in the cloak, suit, and skirt industry.
[1914.]
No. 161. Wages and hours of labor in the clothing and cigar industries, 1911 to 1913.
No. 163. Wages and hours of labor in the building and repairing of steam railroad
cars, 1907 to 1913.
♦No. 190. Wages and hours of labor in the cotton, woolen, and silk industries, 1907
to 1914.
No. 204. Street-railway employment in the United States. [1917.]
No. 225. Wages and hours of labor in the lumber, millwork, and furniture industries,
1915.
No. 265. Industrial survey in selected industries in the United States, 1919.
No. 297. Wages and hours of labor in the petroleum industry, 1920.
No. 356. Productivity costs in the common-brick industry. [1924.]
No. 358. Wages and hours of labor in the automobile-tire industry, 1923.
No. 360. Time and labor costs in manufacturing 100 pairs of shoes, 1923.
No. 365. Wages and hours of labor in the paper and pulp industry, 1923.
No. 394. Wages and hours of labor in metalliferous mines, 1924.
No. 407. Labor and cost of production and wages and hours in the paper boxboard industry. [1926.]




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Wages and Hours of Labor— Continued.
No. 412. Wages, hours, and productivity in the pottery industry, 1925.
No. 413. Wages and hours of labor in the lumber industry in the United States, 1925.
No. 416. Hours and earnings in anthracite and bituminous coal mining, 1922 and
1924.
No. 435. Wages and hours of labor in the men’s clothing industry, 1911 to 1926.
No. 438. Wages and hours of labor in the motor-vehicle industry, 1925.
No. 442. Wages and hours of labor in the iron and steel industry, 1907 to 1926.
No. 454. Hours and earnings in bituminous-coal mining, 1922, 1924, and 1926.
No. 457. Union scales of wages and hours of labor, May Iff, 1927.
No. 471. Wages and hours of labor in foundries and machine shops, 1927.
No. 472. Wages and hours of labor in the slaughtering and meat-packing industry,
1927.
No. 476. Union scales of wages and hours of labor, 1927. [Supplement to Bui.
No. 457.]
No. 482. Union scales of wages and hours of labor, May 15, 1928.
No. 484. Wages and hours of labor of common street laborers, 1928.
No. 487. Wages and hours of labor in woolen and worsted goods manufacturing,
1910 to 1928.
No. 492. Wages and hours of labor in cotton-goods manufacturing, 1910 to 1928.
No. 498. Wages and hours of labor in the boot and shoe industry, 1910 to 1928.
No. 499. History of wages in the United States from colonial times to 1928. (In
press.)
No. 502. Wages and hours of labor in the motor-vehicle industry, 1928.
No. 503. Wages and hours of labor in the men’s clothing industry, 1911 to 1928.
No. 504. Wages and hours of labor in the hosiery and underwear industries, 1907
to 1928.
Welfare Work.
♦No. 123. Employers’ welfare work. [1913.]
No. 222. Welfare work in British munitions factories. [1917.]
♦No. 250. Welfare work for employees in industrial establishments in the United
States. [1919.]
No. 458. Health and recreation activities in industrial establishments, 1926.
Wholesale Prices.
No. 284. Index numbers of wholesale prices in the United States and foreign
countries. [1921.]
No. 453. Revised index numbers of wholesale prices, 1923 to July, 1927.
No. 493. Wholesale prices, 1913 to 1928.
Women and Children in Industry.
No. 116. Hours, earnings, and duration of employment of wage-earning women in
selected industries in the District of Columbia. [1913.]
♦No. 117. Prohibition of night work of young persons. [1913.]
No. 118. Ten-hour maximum working day for women and young persons. [1913.]
No. 119. Working hours of women in the pea canneries of Wisconsin. [1913.]
♦No. 122. Employment of women in power laundries in Milwaukee. [1913.]
No. 160. Hours, earnings, and conditions of labor of women in Indiana mercantile
establishments and garment factories. [1914.]
♦No. 167. Minimum-wage legislation in the United States and foreign countries.
[1915.]
♦No. 175. Summary of the report on conditions of women and child wage earners
in the United States. [1915.]
♦No. 176. Effect of minimum-wage determinations in Oregon. [1915.]
♦No. 180. The boot and shoe industry in Massachusetts as a vocation for women.
[1915.]
♦No. 182. Unemployment among women in department and other retail stores of
Boston, Mass. [1916.]
No. 193. Dressmaking as a trade for women in Massachusetts. [1916.]
No. 215. Industrial experience of trade-school girls in Massachusetts. [1917.]
♦No. 217. Effect of workmen’s compensation laws in diminishing the necessity of
industrial employment of women and children. [1918.]
No. 223. Employment of women and juveniles in Great Britain during the war.
[1917.]
No. 253. Women in the lead industries. [1919.]




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Workmen’s Insurance and Compensation (including laws relating thereto).
*No. 101. Care of tuberculous wage earners in Germany. [1912.]
♦No. 102. British national insurance act, 1911.
No. 103. Sickness and accident insurance law of Switzerland. [1912.]
No. 107. Law relating to insurance of salaried employees in Germany. [1913.]
♦No. 155. Compensation for accidents to employees of the United States. [1914.]
No. 212. Proceedings of the conference on social insurance called by the International
Association of Industrial Accident Boards and Commissions, Washing­
ton, D. C., December 5-9, 1916.
♦No. 243. Workmen's compensation legislation in the United States and foreign
countries, 1917 and 1918.
No. 301. Comparison of workmen’s compensation insurance and administration.
[1922.]
No. 312. National health insurance in Great Britain, 19 11 to 1921.
No. 379. Comparison of workmen’s compensation laws of the United States as of
January 1, 1925.
No. 477. Public-service retirement systems, United States and Europe. [1928.]
No. 496. Workmen’s compensation legislation of the United States and Canada as
of January, 1929. W ith text of legislation enacted in 1927 and 1928.
(In press.)
Miscellaneous Series.
♦No. 174. Subject index of the publications of the United States Bureau of Labor
Statistics up to May 1, 1915.
No. 208. Profit sharing in the United States. [1916.]
No. 242. Food situation in central Europe, 1917.
No. 254. International labor legislation and the society of nations. [1919.]
No. 268. Historical survey of international action affecting labor. [1920.]
No. 282. Mutual relief associations among Government employees in Washington,
D. C. [1921.]
No. 299. Personal research agencies: A guide to organized research in employment
management, industrial relations, training, and working conditions.
[1921.]
No. 319. The Bureau of Labor S ta tistics: Its history, activities, and organization.
[1922.]
No. 326. Methods of procuring and computing statistical information of the Bureau
of Labor Statistics. [1923.]
No. 342. International Seamen’s Union of Am erica: A study of its history and
problems. [1923.]
No. 246. Humanity in government. [1923.]
No. 372. Convict labor in 1923.
No. 386. Cost of American almshouses. [1925.]
No. 398. Growth of legal-aid work in the United States. [1926.]
No. 401. Family allowances in foreign countries. [ 1926. ]
No. 461. Labor organizations in Chile. [1928.]
No. 462. Park recreation areas in the United States. [1928.]
No. 465. Beneficial activities of American trade-unions. [1928.]
No. 479. A ctivities and functions of a State department of labor. [192-8.]
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