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FEDERAL RESERVE’S SECOND MONETARY POLICY
REPORT FOR 2016

HEARING
BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON
BANKING, HOUSING, AND URBAN AFFAIRS
UNITED STATES SENATE
ONE HUNDRED FOURTEENTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION
ON
OVERSIGHT ON THE MONETARY POLICY REPORT TO CONGRESS PURSUANT TO THE FULL EMPLOYMENT AND BALANCED GROWTH ACT OF 1978

JUNE 21, 2016

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COMMITTEE ON BANKING, HOUSING, AND URBAN AFFAIRS
RICHARD C. SHELBY, Alabama, Chairman
MIKE CRAPO, Idaho
SHERROD BROWN, Ohio
BOB CORKER, Tennessee
JACK REED, Rhode Island
DAVID VITTER, Louisiana
CHARLES E. SCHUMER, New York
PATRICK J. TOOMEY, Pennsylvania
ROBERT MENENDEZ, New Jersey
MARK KIRK, Illinois
JON TESTER, Montana
DEAN HELLER, Nevada
MARK R. WARNER, Virginia
TIM SCOTT, South Carolina
JEFF MERKLEY, Oregon
BEN SASSE, Nebraska
ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts
TOM COTTON, Arkansas
HEIDI HEITKAMP, North Dakota
MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota
JOE DONNELLY, Indiana
JERRY MORAN, Kansas
WILLIAM D. DUHNKE III, Staff Director and Counsel
MARK POWDEN, Democratic Staff Director
DANA WADE, Deputy Staff Director
JELENA MCWILLIAMS, Chief Counsel
THOMAS HOGAN, Chief Economist
SHELBY BEGANY, Professional Staff Member
LAURA SWANSON, Democratic Deputy Staff Director
GRAHAM STEELE, Democratic Chief Counsel
DAWN RATLIFF, Chief Clerk
TROY CORNELL, Hearing Clerk
SHELVIN SIMMONS, IT Director
JIM CROWELL, Editor
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FEDERAL RESERVE’S SECOND MONETARY
POLICY REPORT FOR 2016
TUESDAY, JUNE 21, 2016

U.S. SENATE,
URBAN AFFAIRS,
Washington, DC.
The Committee met at 10:02 a.m., in room SD–538, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Richard C. Shelby, Chairman of the Committee, presiding.
COMMITTEE

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BANKING, HOUSING,

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OPENING STATEMENT OF CHAIRMAN RICHARD C. SHELBY

Chairman SHELBY. The Committee will come to order.
Today we will receive testimony from Federal Reserve Chair
Janet Yellen regarding the Fed’s semiannual report on monetary
policy. And while Humphrey-Hawkins testimony is a key part of
Congress’ oversight of our Nation’s central bank, it is not sufficient
to provide Congress and the American public with a full picture of
Fed policymaking.
I have often remarked during these hearings about the importance of striking the right balance between transparency and independence. One of the Fed’s stated reasons for maintaining its independence is to avoid politicizing its decisions.
I agree that politics have no place at the Federal Reserve. And
while the line between politics and policy can be quite fine, it
should, nonetheless, be clear and unambiguous.
The Fed should act, I believe, in a manner consistent with its
statutory mandate in the interest of the stability of the U.S. economy whether or not such policies align with the goals of Congress
or the Administration.
Our central bank is independent and should remain so. The desire to preserve the Fed’s independence should not preclude consideration of additional measures to increase the transparency of the
Board’s actions. In fact, some have argued that better disclosure of
monetary policy strategy could actually bolster independence.
Earlier this year, a prominent group of economists, including
three Nobel Prize winners, agreed in a statement that, and I will
quote, ‘‘ . . . publicly reporting a strategy helps prevent policymakers from bending under pressure and sacrificing independence.’’
The Fed continues to resist calls by Congress to disclose monetary rules, even though it claims to use such rules regularly. In its
public communications, the Fed has veered further away from
data-driven analysis toward the exercise of even more discretion.
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For example, rather than adhering precisely to its stated goals
for inflation and employment, the Federal Open Market Committee
appears to base certain decisions on factors such as ‘‘financial and
international developments’’ that cannot be derived from quantitative analysis.
Similarly, the Fed’s regulatory conduct has become increasingly
opaque and complicated. This is demonstrated by the inherent complexity and overlap in its capital and liquidity rules, stress testing,
and resolution and recovery planning.
Two weeks ago, a panel of experts testified before this Committee
that complex regulations might actually increase rather than decrease risk in the banking system. They also criticized the lack of
analysis and transparency in the rulemaking process. This is especially true of Basel rules established by an international committee
and imposed by domestic regulators on our institutions, without
adequate tailoring.
The Fed did not even do its own quantitative study for Basel III,
as it did, Madam Chair, for Basel I and II. It instead relied on the
Basel Committee’s analysis, which included data from only 13—
only 13—U.S. banks out of the 249 banks that were studied.
Such an approach is concerning. The Fed should perform, I believe, rigorous analysis, not only for each rule but also on the cumulative impact of capital and liquidity regulations. If our banking
regulators are unable or unwilling to conduct such analysis, then
we should consider mandating it.
Even the European Commission analyzes these factors in its regulatory framework. In a recent Call for Evidence, it solicited feedback from the public to ‘‘ . . . evaluate the interaction between financial regulations and assess their cumulative impact.’’ We should
expect no less from our own regulators.
Chair Yellen, I look forward to your testimony today and your
thoughts on these important issues. I think it is a very important
hearing.
Senator Brown.
STATEMENT OF SENATOR SHERROD BROWN

Senator BROWN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And, Madam Chair,
welcome back to the Committee. We are so glad you are here.
Since your last appearance, the economy has made only modest
gains. Inflation remains low. Job creation seems to have slowed.
The economies of our trading partners struggle. Uncertainty, most
notably with the possibility of Britain’s exit from the European, remains high.
In the face of these headwinds, you would think that politicians
here at home would do everything we could to promote our economy. Instead, many of them seem intent on doing just the opposite.
My colleagues on the other side of the aisle are failing to invest
in infrastructure, in public works, in research and development, in
education, in training—the very building blocks of our economic
success. If that were not enough, they are trying their level best
to undermine the safeguards that dampened the economic crisis
and were erected to prevent the next one. They would like to repeal
Dodd-Frank and return our country to the casino capitalism that
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try. And they are trying to politicize and undermine the Federal
Reserve, despite the key actions that it has taken to help the recovery.
Congress rated its reserves and reduced dividend payments in
order to pay for a transportation bill. Many of my colleagues are
trying to insert Congress into monetary policy decisions. This Committee has yet to even hold a hearing on the two nominees to the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, and bad legislative
ideas continue to multiply.
The presumptive nominee of the Republican Party is a factory of
bad ideas. Moody’s Analytics recently released a report that states
that, if adopted, his economic proposals would leave our economy
‘‘significantly weaker.’’ He suggests that he would replace the current Fed Chair based on imagined partisan political considerations.
That is a bad idea. You might argue that someone is failing to pursue the right course on monetary and regulatory policy, but partisan labels should never be part of that discourse.
The presumptive nominee has suggested he would simply renegotiate or renege on our debt, comfortable in the belief that the
United States can never default ‘‘because you print the money.’’ In
his opinion, he understands debt ‘‘better than probably anybody.’’
His words. He also thinks, along with the runner-up for the Republican nomination, that this country should return to the gold standard.
When Ron Paul was promoting this idea a few years ago, the
Wall Street Journal reported on a poll of a panel of economists and
whether a return to the gold standard would improve price stability and unemployment. The response was split between those
who disagreed and those who strongly disagreed. Not one person
thought it would help. So we do not know if it is just a bad idea
or a really, really bad idea.
But as one University of Chicago professor put it, ‘‘Love of the
gold standard implies macroeconomic illiteracy.’’ If your own very
good brain is your top consultant, I suppose the unanimous opinion
of a diverse group of economists does not count for much.
But for those of us in the evidence-based world, the prospect of
this nominee trading imagined for real authority gives added significance to what we do in the Banking Committee and what we
do in Congress. That is true in general. It is particularly true with
maintaining the independence of the Federal Reserve and the other
regulators of the financial services industry.
Madam Chair, I think you have shown your commitment to an
independent, data-driven Federal Reserve. I commend you for that.
We are grateful for that. I hope we can work together to maintain
it.
Thank you.
Chairman SHELBY. Madam Chair, your written testimony in its
entirety will be made part of the hearing record. We welcome you
here today again. You are no stranger to this Committee, and you
proceed as you wish.

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STATEMENT OF JANET L. YELLEN, CHAIR, BOARD OF
GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Ms. YELLEN. Thank you. Chairman Shelby, Ranking Member
Brown, and other Members of the Committee, I am pleased to
present the Federal Reserve’s semiannual Monetary Policy Report
to the Congress. In my remarks today, I will briefly discuss the
current economic situation and outlook before turning to monetary
policy.
Since my last appearance before this Committee in February, the
economy has made further progress toward the Federal Reserve’s
objective of maximum employment. And while inflation has continued to run below our 2-percent objective, the Federal Open Market
Committee expects inflation to rise to that level over the medium
term. However, the pace of improvement in the labor market appears to have slowed more recently, suggesting that our cautious
approach to adjusting monetary policy remains appropriate.
In the labor market, the cumulative increase in jobs since its
trough in early 2010 has now topped 14 million, while the unemployment rate has fallen more than 5 percentage points from its
peak. In addition, as we detail in the Monetary Policy Report, jobless rates have declined for all major demographic groups, including for African Americans and Hispanics. Despite these declines,
however, it is troubling that unemployment rates for these minority groups remain higher than for the Nation overall, and that the
annual income of the median African American household is still
well below the median income of other U.S. households.
During the first quarter of this year, job gains averaged 200,000
per month, just a bit slower than last year’s pace. And while the
unemployment rate held steady at 5 percent over this period, the
labor force participation rate moved up noticeably. In April and
May, however, the average pace of job gains slowed to only 80,000
per month or about 100,000 per month after adjustment for the effects of a strike. The unemployment rate fell to 4.7 percent in May,
but that decline mainly occurred because fewer people reported
that they were actively seeking work. A broader measure of labor
market slack that includes workers marginally attached to the
workforce and those working part-time who would prefer full-time
work was unchanged in May and remains above its level prior to
the recession.
Of course, it is important not to overreact to one or two reports,
and several other timely indicators of labor market conditions still
look favorable. One notable development is that there are some
tentative signs that wage growth may finally be picking up. That
said, we will be watching the job market carefully to see whether
the recent slowing in employment growth is transitory, as we believe it is.
Economic growth has been uneven over recent quarters. U.S. inflation-adjusted gross domestic product is currently estimated to
have increased at an annual rate of only 3⁄4 percent in the first
quarter of this year. Subdued foreign growth and the appreciation
of the dollar weighed on exports, while the energy sector was hard
hit by the steep drop in oil prices since mid-2014; in addition, business investment outside of the energy sector was surprisingly
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up in GDP growth in the second quarter. In particular, consumer
spending has picked up smartly in recent months, supported by
solid growth in real disposable income and the ongoing effects of
the increases in household wealth. And housing has continued to
recover gradually, aided by income gains and the very low level of
mortgage rates.
The recent pickup in household spending, together with underlying conditions that are favorable for growth, lead me to be optimistic that we will see further improvements in the labor market
and the economy more broadly over the next few years. Monetary
policy remains accommodative; low oil prices and ongoing job gains
should continue to support the growth of incomes and, therefore,
consumer spending; fiscal policy is now a small positive for growth;
and global economic growth should pick up over time, supported by
accommodative monetary policies abroad. As a result, the FOMC
expects that with gradual increases in the Federal funds rate, economic activity will continue to expand at a moderate pace and
labor market indicators will strengthen further.
Turning to inflation, overall consumer prices, as measured by the
price index for personal consumption expenditures, increased just
1 percent over the 12 months ending in April, up noticeably from
its pace through much of last year but still well short of the Committee’s 2-percent objective. Much of this shortfall continues to reflect earlier declines in energy prices and lower prices for imports.
Core inflation, which excludes energy and food prices, has been
running close to 11⁄2 percent. As the transitory influences holding
down inflation fade and the labor market strengthens further, the
Committee expects inflation to rise to 2 percent over the medium
term. Nonetheless, in considering future policy decisions, we will
continue to carefully monitor actual and expected progress toward
our inflation goal.
Of course, considerable uncertainty about the economic outlook
remains. The latest readings on the labor market and the weak
pace of investment illustrate one downside risk—that domestic demand might falter. In addition, although I am optimistic about the
longer-run prospects for the U.S. economy, we cannot rule out the
possibility expressed by some prominent economists that the slow
productivity growth seen in recent years will continue into the future. Vulnerabilities in the global economy also remain. Although
concerns about slowing growth in China and falling commodity
prices appear to have eased from earlier this year, China continues
to face considerable challenges as it rebalances its economy toward
domestic demand and consumption and away from export-led
growth. More generally, in the current environment of sluggish
growth, low inflation, and already very accommodative monetary
policy in many advanced economies, investor perceptions of and appetite for risk can change abruptly. One development that could
shift investor sentiment is the upcoming referendum in the United
Kingdom. A U.K. vote to exit the European Union could have significant economic repercussions. For all of these reasons, the Committee is closely monitoring global economic and financial developments and their implications for domestic economic activity, labor
markets, and inflation.

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I will turn next to monetary policy. The FOMC seeks to promote
maximum employment and price stability, as mandated by Congress. Given the economic situation I just described, monetary policy has remained accommodative over the first half of this year to
support further improvements in the labor market and a return of
inflation to our 2-percent objective. Specifically, the FOMC has
maintained the target range for the Federal funds rate at 1⁄4 to 1⁄2
percent and has kept the Federal Reserve’s holdings of longer-term
securities at an elevated level.
The Committee’s actions reflect a careful assessment of the appropriate setting for monetary policy, taking into account continuing below-target inflation and the mixed readings on the labor
market and economic growth seen this year. Proceeding cautiously
in raising the Federal funds rate will allow us to keep the monetary support to economic growth in place while we assess whether
growth is returning to a moderate pace, whether the labor market
will strengthen further, and whether inflation will continue to
make progress toward our 2-percent objective.
Another factor that supports taking a cautious approach in raising the Federal funds rate is that the Federal funds rate is still
near its effective lower bound. If inflation were to remain persistently low or the labor market were to weaken, the Committee
would have only limited room to reduce the target range for the
Federal funds rate. However, if the economy were to overheat and
inflation seemed likely to move significantly or persistently above
2 percent, the FOMC could readily increase the target range for the
Federal funds rate.
The FOMC continues to anticipate that economic conditions will
improve further and that the economy will evolve in a manner that
will warrant only gradual increases in the Federal funds rate. In
addition, the Committee expects that the Federal funds rate is likely to remain, for some time, below the levels that are expected to
prevail in the longer run because headwinds—which include restraint on U.S. economic activity from economic and financial developments abroad, subdued household formation, and meager productivity growth—mean that the interest rate needed to keep the
economy operating near its potential is low by historical standards.
If these headwinds slowly fade over time, as the Committee expects, then gradual increases in the Federal funds rate are likely
to be needed. In line with that view, most FOMC participants,
based on their projections prepared for the June meeting, anticipate that values for the Federal funds rate of less than 1 percent
at the end of this year and less than 2 percent at the end of next
year will be consistent with their assessment of appropriate monetary policy.
Of course, the economic outlook is uncertain, so monetary policy
is by no means on a preset course and FOMC participants’ projections for the Federal funds rate are not a predetermined plan for
future policy. The actual path of the Federal funds rate will depend
on economic and financial developments and their implications for
the outlook and associated risks. Stronger growth or a more rapid
increase in inflation than the Committee currently anticipates
would likely make it appropriate to raise the Federal funds rate
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lower path of the Federal funds rate would be appropriate. We are
committed to our dual objectives, and we will adjust policy as appropriate to foster financial conditions consistent with their attainment over time.
The Committee is continuing its policy of reinvesting proceeds
from maturing Treasury securities and principal payments from
agency debt and mortgage-backed securities. As highlighted in the
statement released after the June FOMC meeting, we anticipate
continuing this policy until normalization of the level of the Federal funds rate is well under way. Maintaining our sizable holdings
of longer-term securities should help maintain accommodative financial conditions and should reduce the risk that we might have
to lower the Federal funds rate to the effective lower bound in the
event of a future large adverse shock.
Thank you. I would be pleased to take your questions.
Chairman SHELBY. Madam Chair, in recent years the Fed has increasingly used forward guidance to shape market expectations.
However, the Fed’s frequently incorrect predictions of interest rate
increases have caused it to lose some credibility among some quarters.
How would you rate the utility of your forward guidance over the
past several months?
Ms. YELLEN. So in the past several months, we have used forward guidance less than we did in the aftermath of the financial
crisis when we named calendar dates or gave explicit economic conditions that we would not need to see prevailing in the economy before considering an increase in the Federal funds rate. We used
that forward guidance in the aftermath of the crisis in order to
help market participants understand how serious the crisis was
and how long we thought we would need to maintain the Federal
funds rate as its——
Chairman SHELBY. Are you saying you are not using forward
guidance now or are you not relying on it as much as you were?
Ms. YELLEN. We are not relying very much on forward guidance.
We do publish every 3 months participants’ projections for the
paths of the Federal funds rate that they believe will be appropriate in light of their expectations about the performance of the
economy. And sometimes those paths which participants discuss in
their remarks are thought to constitute forward guidance about
policy. I do believe those projections are helpful to the public in understanding the path of the economy that participants think is likely and how, if those conditions prevail, they would see monetary
policy as evolving.
But as I always emphasize on every occasion, including in my
prepared remarks, those paths, while I think they are helpful, are
not a preset plan and not in any way a commitment. We are constantly trying to evaluate in light of incoming information the outlook and risks, and you see those paths change over time as we update our evaluation of the economic outlook. And I think that is a
critical part of monetary policy.
Chairman SHELBY. Has the slowing of the economy in certain
areas caused you to kind of hold back a little bit at times information that you see there?

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Ms. YELLEN. So for quite some time now, we have seen mixed developments in the economy—some sectors slowing because of the
decline in energy prices, strong dollar foreign growth; others providing an offset. Throughout, until the last couple of months
progress in the labor market has held up extremely well.
Now, for the last few months, as I mentioned, job gains averaged
100,000 on a strike-adjusted basis, which is a substantial slowdown
from the first quarter and from last year. And it is important for
us to see ongoing progress in the labor market, so that is something we want to carefully evaluate and is a focus of our attention.
But economic growth has picked up from a weak pace, and if that
slowdown is a reflection of weak growth earlier in the year, I am
hopeful that we will see stronger job gains going forward. And
while it is an important report, I would also emphasize that it is
important never to overblow the significance of a single report or
a small amount of data. Other information about the labor market
suggests it continues to perform well.
Chairman SHELBY. Do you see a clear path ahead as far as your
trajectory going forward on the economy picking up? Or are you not
sure yet?
Ms. YELLEN. That is what you see in all of the projections that
were provided in connection last week with our June FOMC meeting. But, of course, there is uncertainty about that, and given that
inflation remains low, we have the ability to watch economic developments and try to make sure the economy is on a favorable path
before raising rates.
Chairman SHELBY. Madam Chair, the FOMC’s target for the Fed
funds rate has been at one-half percent or lower since December
2008. A report last year from the Bank of International Settlements found that the prolonged period of low interest rates may be
damaging the U.S. economy, resulting in, and I will quote, ‘‘too
much debt and too little growth.’’ In addition, the report states that
low rates may in part have contributed to costly financial booms
and busts.
Do you agree that persistently low interest rates can have negative long-term effects on the U.S. economy? And could you explain?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, I believe that the persistent low interest rates
we have had have been essential to——
Chairman SHELBY. Can have——
Ms. YELLEN. ——achieving the progress. But, of course, low rates
can induce households or banks or firms to reach for yield and can
stoke financial instability. And we are very attentive to that possibility, and I would not at this time say that the threats from low
rates to financial stability are elevated. I do not think they are elevated at this time. But it is, of course, something that we need to
watch because it can have that impact. You mentioned debt. I do
not think that we are seeing an undue buildup of debt throughout
the economy. Leverage remains at moderate levels, well below
where it was prior to the crisis. We are looking at credit growth
which has picked up but is not at worrisome levels. So we are monitoring for potential impacts of low rates on financial stability,
which I think is appropriate.
Chairman SHELBY. Madam Chair, in an interview earlier this
month, Governor Tarullo stated that the Fed is reviewing the ap-

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plication of stress tests to regional banks, and he uses the word
‘‘probably’’ will exempt regional banks from the qualitative portion
of CCAR.
Last December, the Fed announced it was tailoring CCAR, but
the tailoring turned out to be just a restatement of existing policy.
What assurances can you give that this current review is a
meaningful effort to tailor CCAR in a way that recognizes the different risk profiles of banks? And if so, when do you expect to publish such changes for comment?
Ms. YELLEN. So we are engaging in a 5-year very serious review
that has been informed by consultation with both financial sector
participants and outside economists, and I do think that you will
see meaningful changes. The suggestion that Governor Tarullo
made that banks between $50 and $250 billion that are subject to
the stress test and CCAR might be left out of the qualitative portions of CCAR, still the stress test would be applied, but the whole
qualitative part of CCAR that relates to capital planning, that they
might be exempted from that, I think that is very likely. We will
look at other changes as well that, as you said, are designed to appropriately tailor it so that its impact is most significant for the
largest and most systemic firms. It will be a very meaningful review, and I believe we will be proceeding on it shortly.
Chairman SHELBY. Well, my last observation has to do with you
alluded to the fact that, come Thursday, there is a big referendum
in the United Kingdom as to whether to stay in the European
Union or start leaving. What is the real implication, or can you tell
at this point, if the British were to leave the Common Market on
us? There could be implications for the Common Market and for
Britain.
Ms. YELLEN. Well, it is a very important relationship. It would
be significant for the United Kingdom and for Europe as a whole.
I think it would usher in a period of uncertainty, and it is very
hard to predict, but there could be a period of financial market volatility that would negatively affect financial conditions and the
U.S. economic outlook that is by no means certain. But it is something that we will be carefully monitoring.
Chairman SHELBY. Thank you.
Senator Brown.
Senator BROWN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Madam Chair, first, thank you for your work on the recent insurance rules. I am pleased that the Fed has put out an Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to implement capital standards for the
two large insurance companies, the two SIFIs, and the 12 insurance companies that are savings and loan holding companies. I appreciate how quickly you have moved on this and your constructive
dialog with stakeholders. I think that your response to our efforts
here made a huge difference in doing this right.
This week, the Banking Committee will have a second hearing
on capital and liquidity rules. Please discuss for us the Fed’s approach to capital and liquidity rules for the Nation’s largest banks.
Specifically, have these new rules made our financial system
stronger?
Ms. YELLEN. So I do believe that the enhancements that we have
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by firms’ size and systemic importance have made an enormous difference to the safety and soundness of the U.S. financial system.
The quantity of capital at the largest banking organizations has essentially doubled from before the crisis, and the quality of that capital is very much higher.
In addition to imposing higher static risk-based capital and leverage requirements, our stress testing and capital planning exercises
are very detailed, forward-looking exercises that are working to ensure that the largest firms in extremely stressful conditions would
be able to go on supporting the credit needs of the U.S. economy,
of households and businesses. And I think this has been a very significant exercise and has resulted in a far superior understanding
by the firms themselves of the risks they face and improved management of those risks.
Capital is not sufficient to assure financial stability. Often liquidity is what disappears in a financial crisis, and we have put in
place, especially for the largest banking organizations, enhancements to liquidity through the liquidity coverage ratio and our proposed net stable funding ratio. And so I think this also works to
enhance financial stability. So I think we have a much safer and
sounder, less crisis prone system because of the enhancements that
we have put in place.
Senator BROWN. Thank you. We have talked in the past about
how the current labor market data do not reflect what has happened to minorities whose rates of unemployment are still much
higher than the average. In your testimony today, for the first
time—and thank you for that—you talked about minority unemployment rates and have included a new section in the semiannual
Monetary Policy Report with this data and a discussion of whether
the gains of the economic expansion have been widely enough
shared.
Discuss why the Fed made this addition to the report.
Ms. YELLEN. Well, the Federal Reserve’s job is to try to achieve
maximum employment and broad gains in the labor market that
are as widely distributed as possible. And I believe it is very important for us to monitor how different groups in the labor market are
doing to see if what we perceive as broad-based labor market improvement is being widely shared. And there are very significant
differences in success in the labor market across demographic
groups, and I think it is important for us to be aware of those differences and to focus on them as we think about monetary policy
and the broader work that the Federal Reserve does in the area of
community development and trying to make sure that financial
services are widely available to those that need it, including lowand moderate-income——
Senator BROWN. Well, that brings to mind a meeting I had just
a few minutes ago with three people from my home town of Cleveland, three community leaders, about the lack of diversity in terms
of gender and ethnicity and race and the lack of diversity in terms
of ideas that are the Class C Directors in many of your Federal Reserves, your 12 Federal Reserves around the country, including in
Cleveland.
I would like to see and I think many of us on this panel would
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Governors, the reserve bank Presidents in the 12 regions, the
Boards of Directors, the advisory committees, and employees.
Discuss what you have done as Chair of the Fed, what more you
can do to better address the financial needs of all Americans as you
reach into the community better. And I know you have had a goal
of doing that. You said that at maybe our first hearing, certainly
one of our first meetings, particularly serving those unserved and
underserved by the financial system.
Ms. YELLEN. So I am personally committed and the Federal Reserve as an organization is committed to achieving diversity within
our workforce and within our leadership at absolutely all levels. I
believe we have made progress. I am committed to seeing us make
further progress, and in order to make sure that we are taking all
of the steps that we possibly can to promote a diversity in economic
inclusion, I have launched an interdisciplinary effort within the
Federal Reserve to focus on all of our diversity initiatives, both in
terms of our own hiring, hiring throughout the Federal Reserve
System, our work in community development to promote access to
credit, our work in the payment system to foster better and faster
payments that can promote financial inclusion.
I do believe we are making some progress, but I want us to make
greater progress. At the Board, minorities currently represent 18
percent and women represent 37 percent of senior leadership. That
is relatively common. Throughout the Federal Reserve System you
would see similar numbers. And we have worked very hard to increase diversity among the reserve bank Directors, and Directors
on the branch Boards have made quite a lot of progress. At this
point minority representation stands at about 24 percent of reserve
bank and branch Board Directors. About 30 percent are women. It
is a matter that the Board focuses on annually in its oversight of
the reserve banks that we regularly track our progress in increasing diversity in the Boards of Directors, and it is something we will
continue to focus on. Diversity is an extremely important goal, and
I will do everything I can to further advance it.
Senator BROWN. Thank you. And I want to—my last question,
but I want you to share with us in a continual way the progress
you are making there, especially in the Class C Directors that they
more represent the community, not just in diversity of look and
background but diversity of ideas and all that.
Last question. There currently are a record number of job openings, almost 6 million, but the May jobs data show that workers
are not being hired for these jobs. What do we do to get Americans
who want to work into these available jobs? What do we need to
do better?
Ms. YELLEN. So there are an enormous number of job openings,
and there is a certain degree of mismatch of workers who are looking for work with the job openings that are available within the
Federal Reserve, and I personally have been looking at workforce
development programs, job training programs, some of which I
think are doing a very good job of trying to build the skills and that
are needed to fill available jobs and work to match workers with
jobs.
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ket into real jobs that can lead to upward mobility and a career in
some of the Philadelphia hospitals. I have seen such programs
around the country that I think have been effective, but obviously,
our job at the Fed is to make sure we have a strong job market,
that there are enough jobs that are being created. But helping that
matching process, looking at training programs and educational opportunities, I think that is a piece of the puzzle as well.
Senator BROWN. As you have from time to time mentioned—‘‘exhorted’’ is maybe too strong a word—that Congress needs to do a
better job in terms of investment in public works and infrastructure, also you have made comments from time to time about job
training. Can you give us more instruction—in my last minute or
so, could you give us more instruction on what we should do here?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, I am not going to give you detailed instruction. I think this is up to Congress to decide. But when one looks
at either inclusion or inequality or more broadly the fact we are
suffering as a country from very low productivity growth, disappointingly low productivity growth, and we think about what the
factors are that over time influence productivity growth, the things
that have long been identified as important are investments, both
private and public, private investment really since the financial crisis has been very weak, but private and public investments, education and workforce development, and the pace of technological
progress, which is influenced by the environment that contributes
to innovation, the startup of new firms, and research and development and other basic support. So I think all of those areas should
be on Congress’ list to focus on.
Senator BROWN. Thank you.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Corker.
Senator CORKER. Madam Chairman, we thank you for being
here. Thank you for your service. I had numbers of conversations
in this setting and others with your predecessor about QE2 and
QE3, and I know the Fed announced in 2014 the normalization
process. And both your predecessor and this normalization process
that was announced in 2014 stated that the securities that we had
built up on the balance sheet would be held to maturity, and then
they would run off the balance sheet.
You have basically announced today that we are embarking on
QE4 by reinvesting the proceeds, have you not, in new securities,
which is a major policy change, is it not, from where the Fed has
been in allowing these securities to run off and allowing—maybe I
am misunderstanding what you are saying, but I thought I heard
you say that the Fed is now, when we reach maturity on these securities, going to reinvest them, which is a pretty big policy change,
is it not?
Ms. YELLEN. It is not a policy change. That has long been our
policy ever since when QE3 ended, we made clear that we would
continue to reinvest maturing proceeds. We have been doing that
ever since. We did say that as the economy recovers and the Fed
funds rate rises to a somewhat higher level than it is at present,
that a day would come when, based on economic and financial conditions, the Committee would begin the process you just described
of gradually allowing securities to run off our balance sheet so that
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to do that, but I cannot give you a precise timetable for when that
policy will begin. It is going to depend on how the economy evolves.
But a long time ago, we put out a set of normalization principles
where we made clear that that was how we would proceed, namely,
continue reinvestment until after we had begun the process of raising the Federal funds rate and achieved sufficient progress there.
That remains our intention.
Senator CORKER. Well, thank you for clearing that up. I appreciate that. I know last time you were here, you alluded, we alluded
to negative rates, and I know that is what has happened in Japan
and the EU. And you were looking into the legality of whether—
your staff was looking into whether you felt that you had the legal
basis to pursue negative rates. Have you come to a conclusion relative to that?
Ms. YELLEN. I believe we do have the legal basis to pursue negative rates, but I want to emphasize it is not something that we are
considering. This is not a matter that we are actively looking at,
considering. When we have looked at it or looked at that in the
past, we have identified significant shortcomings of that type of approach. I do not think we are going to have to provide accommodation, and if we do, that is not something that is on our list. But
I do think we have the legal authority.
Senator CORKER. Very good, and I really appreciate you clearing
that up. Obviously, Japan and the EU have not had good benefit
from that, or at least it is not benefit that we can see has been
good for them. So I appreciate you clearing that up. That is very
good.
We look at the Taylor rule from time to time, and I know that
the Fed has not adopted the Taylor rule. But if you look at it,
Bloomberg has a chart that tracks it, and basically, you know, Fed
rates and the Taylor rule have been within a range.
Recently, there is the biggest dichotomy that we have seen in
years and years between the Fed funds rate and what they would
be if the Taylor rule was being employed. Today it is at 25 to 50
basis points. Under the Taylor rule, we would be at 3.7 percent.
That would be a target Fed rate today. A big range difference. Is
that because of the headwinds that you have been alluding to and
just what you are generally seeing in the market?
Ms. YELLEN. Yes, I believe it is because of the headwinds. One
of the numbers in the Taylor rule reflects Professor Taylor’s estimate of what we sometimes refer to as the neutral level of the Fed
funds rate. It is a level of the Fed funds rate that is consistent with
the economy operating at full employment. And that is something
that by our estimate has been very depressed in the aftermath of
the financial crisis. And discussions about secular stagnation are
very much about what is the level of interest rates that is consistent with the economy operating at full employment.
I am hopeful that rate will rise over time, although I am uncertain, but at the moment most of the divergence between our settings and what would be the higher levels that would be called for
really reflect the headwinds that have been facing the economy
since the financial crisis.
Senator CORKER. The labor—I have only got a little bit of time,
but the employment rate really is misleading, is it not, relative to

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where we are in the labor market today, meaning that there is still
a lot of excess capacity, and I know Ranking Member Brown was
alluding to that anew. So that equation is a little bit off. Just because you are not really feeling the employment levels, even
though the rates that we show are there, the involvement by the
labor market is not what we would like for it to be.
Let me just ask one last thing briefly on living wills. I know that
under Section 165 of Dodd-Frank the larger institutions are supposed to present living wills, and you all are supposed to ensure
that they can be resolved in bankruptcy. And I know we are going
through hopefully the final iteration in the next several months.
But I was confused in that Governor Powell recently mentioned
that if the Fed just keeps raising capital levels, these institutions
will on their own downsize or become less complex. And I am just
confused by that.
Is the Federal Reserve, if these institutions cannot be resolved in
bankruptcy, going to do what Section 165 of Dodd-Frank tells them
to do? Or are you going to rely on raising capital to cause the
banks to do it themselves?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, we are insisting that the firms address in
some cases deficiencies and in other cases shortcomings that we
have found enumerated in the living wills in the last submission,
and there is a timetable for doing that. If the firms fail to address
the deficiencies or if later on by the summer of 2017 they fail to
address the shortcomings we have identified and then we find them
deficient, Dodd-Frank does say that the FDIC and the Fed can impose higher capital requirements, liquidity requirements, or ultimately structural changes. Do not expect to have to go there, but
we are insisting that the firms address the deficiencies and shortcomings that we have carefully identified.
Senator CORKER. Thank you, Madam Chairman and Mr. Chairman.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Reed.
Senator REED. Well, thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. And
thank you, Madam Chair.
It strikes me that over the last several years you have had a very
difficult challenge, we all have, but we have been operating in some
respects with one hand tied behind our back, which is that you
have been pursuing a very expansionary policy to stimulate the
economy, cutting rates and reluctant to raise rates, while we have
not had a complementary fiscal policy that invests in infrastructure
and other things and allows you the room to raise rates if necessary or to complement your activity with what we are doing. And
the point you just made in response to Senator Brown is that this
productivity gap, which is very troubling, some of that is just related to decrepit infrastructure. If it takes 2 hours to get someplace, that is 2 lost hours for someone delivering a package. If it
takes 10 minutes on a superhighway, that is a productivity increase.
So you are in a position, I think, that you are doing all you can,
but it is not enough, and we have to step up. Is that something
that you tend to sympathize with?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, I think in the United States and in many
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it is common to say that it is monetary policy, central banks that
have been carrying the load. In many parts of the world, fiscal policy has, because of concern about large debt or deficits, not played
a supportive role.
I think we have achieved a lot in the United States. We have created over 14 million jobs. The unemployment rate has come down
to 4.7 percent. Inflation is still under 2 percent, but I believe moving up. So I think we are making good progress, but if there were
to be a negative shock to the economy—and I mentioned this in my
testimony—starting with very low levels of interest rates, we do
not have a lot of room using our traditional tried and true method
to respond. If fiscal policy were more expansionary, this neutral
level of interest rates that is one of the factors, the stance of policy,
that affects what level of interest rates is neutral for the economy,
keeps it on an even keel, and the level would be higher with a different stance of fiscal policy.
Senator REED. We have made progress, I agree, but I think the
sense is that not only could we have made more progress, but we
are at a point now where you have exhausted most of your leverage
in a nonfinancial sense, and if there was a shock, then you have
very little to respond with.
Ms. YELLEN. Well, we have the same tools that we used earlier,
namely, asset purchases, forward guidance, the maturity distribution, duration of our portfolios, and those are the tools we would
rely on.
Senator REED. And just very quickly, the other part of this dilemma is the sense in some places that because interest rates have
been so low, there is the possibility of creating a bubble, for example, driving people into equities because there is no return, and the
price is driven up not because of the underlying quality of the equity but simply because that is where they can get some money
fast. Are you concerned about that?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, yes, as I said earlier, I do not see signs of extreme threats to financial stability at this time. This is something
we monitor very closely. But it is something that can happen in a
low interest rate environment, so I do not think that I see any
broad-based evidence of those financial stability concerns, but it is
something that is possible.
Senator REED. And I have less than a minute, but let me just
add—with respect to cybersecurity—that we had a discussion last
time you were here. It is an increasing problem—in fact, at the
Federal Reserve. Public reports say you have been breached in
some respects. But just getting to the point, do you have the authority to require your regulated companies to put people on their
boards that have cybersecurity expertise, and also to publicly disclose what their cybersecurity general parameters are, or something to indicate to the public that they are taking this seriously?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, it is a focus of our supervision. We do have
standards that we expect financial institutions to meet, and just
what is expected depends on the complexity and importance of the
firm. So we do regard this as a very significant threat.
On your question about Boards of Directors, I do not know that
we have looked at that. I would need to get back to you on that.
Senator REED. Thank you.

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Ms. YELLEN. But we are certainly supervising financial institutions’ ability to address cyberthreats.
Senator REED. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Vitter.
Senator VITTER. Thank you, Madam Chair, for being here and for
your service.
Ms. YELLEN. Thank you.
Senator VITTER. Madam Chair, in April, the Fed finally released
the results of the 2015 resolution plans of eight systemically important domestic banking institutions, and five of the Nation’s largest
banks failed that exercise, including JPMorgan Chase and Bank of
America. I have three questions related to that.
First, the New York Times in April described this Fed release as
stating, ‘‘That suggests that if there were another crisis today, the
Government would need to prop up the largest banks if it wanted
to avoid financial chaos.’’ So Question 1 is: Do you agree with that?
Question 2 is: What do these five banks need to do by October
1st to fully remediate their deficiencies?
And Question 3 is: If they do not by October 1st, will the Fed
take more systemic action like raising capital levels?
Ms. YELLEN. So those banks have, over the span of the last several years in which they have been preparing living wills, greatly
increased their ability to be resolved in the event of trouble by
bankruptcy or, alternatively, Title II is available. I could not guarantee at this point. It depends just what the circumstances are in
which a bank fails that bankruptcy would work at this point as a
means to resolve one of these firms. We have identified for five of
the firms deficiencies. We have been extremely careful in spelling
out in detail what those deficiencies are that we want to see remedied by October 1st. And, in addition, we have listed, jointly with
the FDIC, a large number of specific shortcomings that the firms
have until the summer of 2017 to remedy. And we will be monitoring very carefully and evaluating whether that is done. And as
I said, if the deficiencies are not remedied or, later, if the shortcomings are not remedied, they could turn into deficiencies that
would lead us to impose higher capital standards or other remedies
on these firms if that is not done.
But I think we have learned a lot in the course of the years we
have been evaluating these living wills about what it takes to actually resolve a firm in bankruptcy. The firms have learned in this
process, and I do think we have made substantial advances in
terms of being able to do——
Senator VITTER. Let me go back to my question—three questions.
First, in terms of the New York Times quote, needing to prop up
the largest banks, you would not categorically refute that possibility?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, I would not say at this point that all of them
are prepared for resolution under bankruptcy.
Senator VITTER. And, again, if they do not get there for October
1st, would you very soon thereafter consider something more systemic like higher capital requirements or not?
Ms. YELLEN. Yes.

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Senator VITTER. OK. And, Madam Chair, my second and last
question is about the Puerto Rican crisis. You have said you do not
think the Fed should be involved, and I appreciate that and agree
with that. However, my concern is the Fed has authority to be involved. Do you think the Fed has authority to issue as a last resort
emergency loans to Puerto Rican institutions or not?
Ms. YELLEN. I think our authority is extremely limited, and it
would not be appropriate for us to give loans to Puerto Rico. We
have very limited authority to buy municipal debt, and the authority we have, if we were to buy eligible debt, I do not think it would
be helpful to Puerto Rico. And beyond that, we have no ability to
make emergency loans. We could not use 13(3) or emergency powers of that type to extend a loan to Puerto Rico. This is inherently
a matter for Congress and is not something that is appropriate for
the Federal Reserve.
Senator VITTER. OK. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Menendez.
Senator MENENDEZ. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you,
Madam Chair, for your service and your insights. I always appreciate it.
Recently, in the national public discourse, there are those who
propose reducing the national debt by persuading creditors to take
a haircut on their investments. And in my opinion, policies like
that would drive our economy off a cliff and endanger working families in our country. And I really do not know of anyone more qualified to answer this question than you. In your opinion, what would
be the consequences if the President of the United States were to
propose that holders of U.S. Treasury bonds accept less than the
face value of their investments?
Ms. YELLEN. So this is a topic that I have spoken on many times
when Congress says we have faced debt ceiling-type situations. I
feel the consequences for the United States and the global economy
of defaulting on Treasury debt would be very severe. U.S. Treasury
securities are the safest and most liquid benchmark security in the
global financial system. They play a critical role in financial markets, and the consequences of such a default, while they are uncertain, I think there can be no doubt that it would be long-run harmful to U.S. interests and at a minimum result in much higher borrowing costs for American households and businesses.
Senator MENENDEZ. And saying that you should take a haircut,
does it actually mean—it means a default because you are not paying the full amount that you are obligated to on the security. And
just for clarification purposes, am I right, my understanding that
U.S. citizens and American entities, such as State and local governments, pension funds, mutual funds, and the Federal Reserve, own
the vast majority of U.S. debt estimated at approximately 67.5 percent?
Ms. YELLEN. U.S. entities and foreign entities.
Senator MENENDEZ. U.S. entities and foreign entities. OK. My
understanding is—and I would like to get it for the record. My understanding is that just U.S. citizens and American entities, State
and local governments, pension funds, mutual funds, 401(k)s, Federal Reserve, own the majority of U.S. debt, and that would be

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about 67.5 percent. But for the record, if you could submit that, I
would appreciate it.
Ms. YELLEN. Certainly.
Senator MENENDEZ. Which means the overwhelming majority
would be taking a haircut that, as proposed by Mr. Trump, would
ultimately mean U.S. citizens, State and local governments, and
that is pretty outrageous.
Let me ask you this: In the nearly 8 years since the start of the
financial crisis, our economy has indeed shown signs of growth and
progress, yet many data points indicate that we are far from a full
recovery in the labor market. In the past, you have advocated for
the Federal Reserve’s use of a metric called the ‘‘Labor Market
Conditions Index.’’ That index, which pulls data from 19 different
labor market sources, including labor force participation, workers
that are classified as part-time for economic reasons, hires, quits,
and so forth, has fallen nearly 15 points over the last 5 months.
In fact, the index has fallen to its lowest level since 2010.
My understanding is that every other time the index has turned
negative for 5 months or longer over the last 25 years, the Fed has
moved to ease monetary policy, not tighten it. So I am concerned
that given the path the Fed has laid out for potential rate increases
later this year and next, the Fed will neither have the ability nor
the will to temper the impacts of this slowdown in the labor market. Shouldn’t the Fed wait to consider additional rate hikes until
we see indications of growth in the labor market?
Ms. YELLEN. So the numbers that are released on the Labor Market Conditions Index do not refer to the level of the index but, rather, the change. And the move that you have mentioned in that
index suggests not that the labor market is not operating—the
labor market is operating at a good level according to the level of
that index, which we do not publish, but there is a loss of momentum. That is what those negative numbers show, and we see the
same thing in recent job reports that I referred to in my testimony.
So without a doubt, for the last several months, a number of different metrics suggest a loss of momentum, not a deterioration in
the labor market but a loss of momentum in terms of the pace of
improvement. And that is an important consideration, as I mentioned. We believe that will turn around, expect it to turn around,
but we are taking a cautious approach and watching very carefully
to make sure that that expectation is borne out before we proceed
to raise interest rates further.
Senator MENENDEZ. Madam Chair, one final point, not even a
question. I want to echo what Senator Brown has said, and in the
letter that I, Senator Warner, Senator Merkley, and 124 Members
of Congress sent to you with reference to improving the representation at regional banks, 83 percent of Federal Reserve Board members are white; 92 percent of regional bank Presidents are white.
There is not a single President who is either African American or
someone like me, Latino. That is fundamentally wrong, and I
would hope that you would chair some diversity effort, because
leadership on this issue always comes from the top, regardless of
the institution. And with your own experiences as a woman—and
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we are not doing that much better with people of color. And I hope
that you will seriously consider such an effort.
Ms. YELLEN. I agree with you that it is extremely important, and
I will do everything I can to see that our performance improves on
that dimension.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Toomey.
Senator TOOMEY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you,
Chair Yellen.
Chair Yellen, your predecessor, Chairman Bernanke, both before
this Committee and in columns that he has written, discussed
some of the limits of monetary policy, what monetary policy is capable of and what it is not capable of. And one of the things that
he said—I am paraphrasing, but I think he has said this on numerous occasions—that accommodative monetary policy has the limit
of being only stimulative in the sense that it brings economic activity forward in time. It does not create new wealth, goods, or services, but it shifts the timing of economic activity.
Do you agree with Chairman Bernanke in that respect?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, it sometimes does shift the timing of economic
activity, brings forward a decision that might have been made
later. But I think the stance of policy also has repercussions that
have a more longer lasting impact on the state of demand. It is not
only a matter of shifting purchases early by having more accommodative financial conditions. There are repercussions that can be
longer lasting than that.
Senator TOOMEY. You may disagree. My sense of the academic
consensus is that the main effect of accommodative monetary policy
is to induce economic activity that was going to occur later at an
earlier time, and that that is the principal activity, or the principal—but you are acknowledging there is some of that phenomenon.
Ms. YELLEN. There is some of that phenomenon. It is not the
only thing.
Senator TOOMEY. So to what extent is this unprecedented accommodative monetary policy for these many years now part of the
reason that we have had relatively anemic growth today? Isn’t it
very likely the case that some of the economic activity that would
be occurring today was dragged forward in years gone by and it
has already occurred in the past?
Ms. YELLEN. So it is very hard to know how large that effect is,
but I continue to think that our accommodative stance of policy—
for example, low mortgage rates—is continuing to boost activity in
the housing sector. It has not only pulled activity forward to suppress it now. I believe it has——
Senator TOOMEY. The housing sector has still not recovered its
previous highs.
Ms. YELLEN. Well, it has undergone very substantial shocks.
Senator TOOMEY. Have you attempted to quantify how much of
the economic growth that would be occurring in 2017 and 2018 and
2019 is happening now because of this ongoing activity of having
these extremely low, unnaturally low interest rates?
Ms. YELLEN. We have not tried to determine that. We have in
the past looked at whether or not low rates have had less impact
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not there might be some attenuation in the impact of policy. But
in the past, our analysis suggested that it is not only a matter of
shifting the timing of economic activity, but also stimulating investment and spending decisions on a longer lasting basis.
Senator TOOMEY. Even if that is so, my guess is that the principal effect is shifting the timing, and you may disagree with that.
I got the impression from your predecessor that his view was that
the principal effect was shifting the timing. It is certainly an effect,
and I would think it is something that the Fed ought to be looking
at, because to the extent that that is a significant effect, what you
are doing today is damaging economic growth going forward, to
some extent.
Let me touch on another concern. It seems from what you and
others have said there has been a great focus on the demand side
of the effect of monetary policy and not so much on the supply side.
One of the concerns that I have is the danger that, first of all, you
have been missing the estimates on the supply side as well as economic growth overall, right? I mean, we are now, I think, 12 consecutive years in which the Fed has systematically overestimated
economic growth. It has been overly optimistic about the supply
side phenomena, such as workers returning to the workforce, improving productivity level, that have not been happening to the extent that the Fed has hoped.
One of my concerns is that the inducement to expand capacity,
the unnatural excess capacity that comes from unnaturally low interest rates, could get the Fed into a kind of vicious cycle where
all that excess capacity creates excess commodities, downward
pressure on prices, makes it that much harder to hit your 2-percent
inflation goal, and creates this dilemma that is hard to get out of.
Is there a danger that the ultra-low interest rates are contributing
to that?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, I think investment has been running at a very
slow pace. We have really not had the creation of a lot of excess
capacity. One of the reasons——
Senator TOOMEY. Globally, we have.
Ms. YELLEN. ——that productivity growth has been so slow, and
it has been disappointingly slow, is that we have had very weak
investment in the aftermath of the crisis, and more recently in recent months, it has turned negative and is extremely low even outside of energy where we have a substantial cutback in drilling activity. So I do not think an impact of low interest rates has been
to stimulate an investment boom or a boom in capacity——
Senator TOOMEY. No, there is—I think that is largely true in the
United States, but globally, where this experiment has been going
on since everybody is in this business of ultra-low interest rates,
it seems, certainly if you talk to people in the steel industry, they
would suggest that there is massive overcapacity in not just steel
but in other commodities as well. And I do worry that we have encouraged companies to take on massive amounts of debt to create
this overcapacity, and it is just one of the many distortions. But I
thank you for your time.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Tester.
Senator TESTER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Chair Yellen, thank you for being here. I have got a couple questions that I have asked before and, quite frankly, will do it again.
Senator Crapo and myself sent a letter on the EGRPRA process
and how that is moving forward. I am continually concerned about
community banks and the level regulation to match the risk that
they pose to the economy and to their depositors and borrowers.
We are seeing consolidation in Montana. We are probably seeing
consolidation across the country with small banks. And that is not
good for capitalism, and I do not think it is good for rural America
as we see small banks combining with bigger banks combining with
bigger banks.
So my question is: Do you see any problem with the process right
now of regulation on our small banks? And if so, what are we doing
about it?
Ms. YELLEN. We are very heavily focused on trying to find ways
to relieve community banks of undue burden, and tailoring our regulatory system and supervision system to suit the risks that an entity entails is a core principle for us of proper supervision. So we
have made very meaningful efforts to reduce the burdens of our examinations on community banks, to reduce the complexity of the
capital requirements that they face. The EGRPRA process we are
taking very seriously, and I believe we will come out with meaningful proposals for relief. And we are looking at something that might
be a significant simplification of the capital regime for those community banks.
Senator TESTER. I think simplification is important. Are you
happy where the Fed is right now as it regards the community
banks?
Ms. YELLEN. I think we have made progress, but we will continue to focus on it.
Senator TESTER. OK. Do you believe that consolidation in the
banking industry, in particular as it applies to—well, across the
board, does not matter—is not a good thing? And do you think that
the regulatory issues have contributed to the consolidation?
Ms. YELLEN. I think there have been a number of factors that
have contributed to it. This is a challenging environment for banks,
a low interest rate environment, and profitability has been important.
Senator TESTER. Right. And in some cases, some of these small
banks are putting out literally millions—and these are small
banks—millions of dollars to meet the regulatory issues that are
brought up. I just want to get your commitment you are going to
continue to work——
Ms. YELLEN. Absolutely.
Senator TESTER. The consolidation piece is something that really
bothers me big time, especially as it applies to States like Montana,
because that forces us to the big buys, and I do not necessarily
think that is good for the consumer coming down the line. I think
it should be their choice if they want to go that direction.
On international insurance rules, the Fed has proposed rules for
two nonbank SIFIs, AIG and Prudential, and I am pleased the Fed
is moving forward with the international insurance rules. Could
you give me an idea when you think these might be complete?

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Ms. YELLEN. Well, I think there are some ways to go in terms
of the international work that is ongoing. We put out a few weeks
ago an Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking for the framework
that we intend to take here in the United States. You know, we
are in discussions internationally in advancing these ideas, but I
think we are ahead of that process here in the United States.
Senator TESTER. OK. So I will take one more run at it because
I may not have worded it correctly. Do you have any idea when
they will be done?
Ms. YELLEN. No.
Senator TESTER. Will it be done in this Administration?
Ms. YELLEN. I will have to get back to you. I do not know what
the timetable is. You are talking about the international efforts?
Senator TESTER. Yes, right, and how those are going to impact,
for instance, GE, for example, who is a nonbank SIFI. I am just
curious to figure out how that is going to come down the pipe.
Ms. YELLEN. Well, so GE, we already published——
Senator TESTER. It is a SIFI, right?
Ms. YELLEN. ——a rule.
Senator TESTER. Right.
Ms. YELLEN. It is not insurance.
Senator TESTER. It is not an insurance company. What happens
to those guys? Does this insurance rule have no impact on them?
What happens to those guys moving forward?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, they are not an insurance company.
Senator TESTER. No, I know, but they are SIFI, and they have
divested their financial—their banking part of their business. So
what happens to them moving forward?
Ms. YELLEN. That will be something that the FSOC——
Senator TESTER. Will take up.
Ms. YELLEN. Will take up.
Senator TESTER. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Kirk.
Senator KIRK. Madam Chair, I want to take you what you were
just talking about, the Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking for
the insurance industry. I am speaking on behalf of large Illinois
employers like State Farm and Allstate. I would say that Senator
Collins and I have been working very hard to make sure the Fed
recognizes the great difference between the business of banking
and insurance, and I would say the ANPRM, the Advance Notice
of Proposed Rulemaking, heads in the right direction there. I would
ask you that, as we look forward to this, as I look at the essence
of the ANPRM, it seemed like the key stress test was a 90-day window of liquidity that, if I look at the details, I would say a 90-day—
if you look at someone like State Farm that affects 80 million
American families, you would say the stress would be given the
2008 drop in various sales of various products, do you have enough
money over 90 days to sustain the enterprise? I wanted to explore
this with you, a commonsense way of letting people know, because
this is the way we should go. I would urge you to follow in the direction of Senator Collins and me, making sure the normal Fed culture of bank regulation does not impinge on the insurance industry.

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Ms. YELLEN. Well, we have tried to do that very much in developing this proposal. We have put forward some conceptual frameworks and are going to be looking very carefully at comments before we proceed with more detailed rules, and the Collins fix was
very helpful to us in having the flexibility to design something that
is appropriate for insurance and not bank centric.
Senator KIRK. Thank you, because I think we have got 60 days
to comment now coming up.
Ms. YELLEN. Yes.
Senator KIRK. And I will be approaching Members of this Committee to also provide their comments on that. I want to make sure
that we have a robust and strong insurance sector.
Ms. YELLEN. Yes, and we will look at those very carefully. We
are trying to proceed in a very thoughtful and careful way based
on a great deal of consultation with other regulators, State regulators, the NAIC, the industry. We have taken a lot of comment
and look forward to more.
Senator KIRK. From what we have heard, the ANPRM has been
pretty well received, reflecting the Collins fix nicely.
Ms. YELLEN. Great.
Senator KIRK. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Warner.
Senator WARNER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And, Chair Yellen,
it is great to see you. I am going to try to get three questions in
and respect the 5-minute rule, which has not been respected this
morning, to make sure that all our colleagues get a chance to ask
questions.
I want to go back to Senator Reed’s point about cyber. Senator
Gardner and I have started the Cyber Caucus. I think this is increasingly going to be a challenge for every institution. Senator
Reed raised the question about whether under prudential regulations we can make sure that bank boards and others have
cyberexpertise. I would hope you would move forward with that.
I want to move slightly on my question to the issue around what
happened at the New York Fed with the Bangladeshi incursion
that was through the SWIFT system. Obviously, the SWIFT system, as evidenced by this cyberattack, has some challenges, enormously important to international banking regimes. Does the New
York Fed or the overall Fed, do you feel like you have enough ability to work with SWIFT to increase their cyberprotections?
Ms. YELLEN. We are part of an oversight group for SWIFT. It is
led by the National Bank of Belgium, and many supervisors from
different countries participate in that group. And we also participated in that group. SWIFT and the New York Fed are working
with the Bank of Bangladesh to try to understand what happened.
Senator WARNER. I would just urge you that this is going to be
an area that is going to exponentially grow in importance, both in
terms of the Fed’s internal expertise and ensuring that we are
working more closely with the overall banking industry to up their
game, I think is critically important.
Ms. YELLEN. We certainly agree with that.
Senator WARNER. Let me make sure I get to the others. A number of us have talked about how we can generate additional job
growth. One of the concerns that I have is that, particularly inside

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the public markets, we have seen an enormous rush over the last
decade plus starting in the 1990s, but really over the last decade
and the last few years even more particularly, toward shorttermism in terms of views versus long-term value creation, and
that in many ways this is undermining basic tenets of American
capitalism as more and more people choose and more and more institutions, financial institutions, choose to invest in financial instruments rather than investing in lending to business institutions.
As a matter of fact, I have seen some data that says as low as 15
percent of financial institutions’ activities are actually geared toward supporting businesses making investments in communities.
We have clearly seen amongst public companies a shift from 80
percent in the 1980s, where 50 percent of profits were reinvested
back into plant and equipment and employees and R&D; now we
are seeing 95 percent of corporate profits used for stock buybacks
and dividends. We have seen some of America’s largest iconic tech
firms with huge balance sheets still go into the markets, borrow
billions of dollars to use not for R&D but to use share buybacks.
I think there is an increasing consensus among CEOs and I
think even some more sophisticated investors that this is long-term
destructive to real value creation in business and, consequently, to
job growth. Has the Fed and do you individually have any views
on this challenge about short-termism? Is it a challenge? And some
of this movement, particularly amongst public companies, away
from investing back in their businesses, back toward stock buyback
and dividends prognosis here?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, we have looked very closely at investment
spending and tried to understand why it has been so very depressed in the aftermath of the crisis. You know, I think one reason for it is simply that the economy has been growing slowly.
Sales growth has been slow, and many firms have found they actually do not need to invest very much in order to satisfy the demand
growth that they are seeing.
The workforce has been expanding less quickly than it had been.
When you have a rapidly expanding workforce, firms need—they
are hiring those people, and they need to invest to equip new entrants with the tools to be productive that others already in the
workforce have. A slowing workforce has also played a role. But beyond that, I would agree with you that there has been——
Senator WARNER. I would simply add that there has been some
level of activist investors who come in and say the first thing you
shut down are your worker training programs, your investment in
infrastructure, and I believe that is a negative long term. I will adhere to my——
Ms. YELLEN. I would agree with——
Senator WARNER. ——5-minute request, although I would ask for
the public record that you come back—I am concerned on Section
165 and the living wills. We have got to move this process along.
I am concerned about the level of disagreement between the Fed
and the FDIC, but I will take that for the record so that other
members can get their questions in.
Chairman SHELBY. Thank you, Senator Warner.
Senator Heller.

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Senator HELLER. Mr. Chairman, thank you. And, Madam Chairwoman, thank you for being here today, and thanks for taking time
out. I find this to be very informative.
I want to go back to Brexit for just a minute. The Chairman
brought Brexit up, and you also mentioned it in your opening comments. You said that a U.K. vote to exit the European would have
significant economic repercussions. Can you go more into detail of
what that means and perhaps what the plan of attack by the Feds
are if, in fact, it were to pass 2 days from now?
Ms. YELLEN. So I said it could. I do not know that it would, but
I think it could have significant economic consequences by launching a period of uncertainty, both for the United Kingdom and possibly the future of European economic integration. Most analyses
suggest it would have negative economic consequences for the U.K.
and spillovers to Europe more broadly speaking.
I think the financial market reaction to the uncertainties that
would be unleashed by that decision could result in a kind of risk/
risk off sentiment that we would see impacts on financial markets
that we might see flight to safety flows that could push up the dollar or other so-called safe haven currencies. And I do not want to
overblow the likely impacts, but we are aware of them. We will
watch them and consider those impacts as we make future decisions on monetary policy.
Senator HELLER. Is there any reason to believe that if Brexit
were to pass, it would have an effect on the U.S. economy to the
point that we would go back into a recession?
Ms. YELLEN. I do not think that is the most likely case, but we
just do not really know what will happen, and we will have to
watch very carefully.
Senator HELLER. What is the chance of the U.S. economy being
in a recession by the end of the year?
Ms. YELLEN. I think it is quite low. I think the U.S. economy is
doing well, and although I have indicated that we are watching
this recent slowdown in the job market carefully, my expectation
is that the U.S. economy will continue to grow. We have seen a
pickup, a strong pickup in consumer spending and growth in the
economy. If the weakness in the labor market for the last couple
of months was a reaction to an earlier slowdown in growth, that
looks to be reversing. I remain quite optimistic in the kinds of conditions that have been associated in the past with U.S. recession.
Often that occurs when inflation is—when an economy is overheated, inflation has been quite high, the Fed has had to tighten
monetary policy. We do not have any such conditions in play now.
Households are in much improved shape, and while there are negative influences in the economy, particularly on manufacturing,
stemming from slow growth abroad, the strong dollar, lower commodity prices, very seriously depressing hiring, causing job loss in
the energy sector, and slowing investment in drilling and mining.
Still, overall the U.S. economy has been progressing even with
those negatives, and I think the odds of a recession are low. It is
certainly not what I expect.
Senator HELLER. Chairman, thanks for your answer.
A week ago Friday, I think the 10-year yield on Japanese bonds
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on our Treasury yields with these investors obviously looking for
any kind of return coming in, buying up our Treasury bonds, what
kind of impact is that going to have on our yields?
Ms. YELLEN. So it does tend to induce capital inflows into the
United States, which pushed down our Treasury yields, so ours are
considerably higher. But in absolute terms, they are really quite
low. And differentials in the stance of monetary policy also put impacts on the value of the dollar. The dollar has gone up around 20
percent against a broad basket of currencies since mid-2014, and
that has had a negative effect on our trade with the rest of the
world and put downward pressure on corporate profits and hiring
in manufacturing.
Senator HELLER. Are you concerned that if Feds raise rates, bond
traders will ignore that, in fact, reversing exactly what you are trying to achieve by raising rates?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, I think one of the factors that does influence
bond pricing, if this is what you are referring to, is the anticipated
path of rates. And there are some further increases built into market expectations, and often the response of bond markets to what
we do depends on how our actual actions compare with those expectations.
Senator HELLER. Chairwoman, thank you.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Warren.
Senator WARREN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is good to see you
again, Chair Yellen.
I want to follow up on questions raised by Senator Corker and
Senator Vitter. As you know, Dodd-Frank requires giant financial
institutions to submit living wills, documents that describe how
these giants could be liquidated in an orderly and rapid way in
bankruptcy without either bringing down the economy or requiring
a taxpayer bailout.
Now, a few months ago, the Fed and the FDIC jointly determined that the living wills submitted by five of the biggest banks
in the country were not credible, and those banks must resolve the
problems identified in their living wills by October 1st. That is 14
weeks from now. If the banks fail to do that, the Fed and the FDIC
have the power to reduce the risks posed by these giant banks by,
for example, raising higher capital standards or stricter leverage
ratios.
These changes are critically important to avoiding another 2008
crisis, but the banks are unlikely to make them unless they believe
that the Fed and the FDIC are serious about enforcing DoddFrank.
Now, I know by law you must consider increasing capital and
higher leverage ratios. What I want today is to ask: Can you commit that if any of these giant banks fail to resolve the problems in
their living wills by October 1st that the Fed will use the tools that
Congress gave you to reduce the risks posed by these too-big-to-fail
banks?
Ms. YELLEN. We have been very serious in this review of the living wills, and we have clearly stated a set of well-identified
changes that we want to see——
Senator WARREN. I appreciate that.
Ms. YELLEN. ——by October 1st.

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Now, the decision about what we do if those deadlines are not
met, those are decisions that my colleagues and I will need to look
at very carefully, what is the appropriate sanction for doing that.
But, clearly, we are very serious about wanting to see these deficiencies remedied and well aware that we have at our disposal the
tools that you listed.
So I cannot precommit today to tell you precisely what our response will be, and we will work closely with the FDIC, as we have
been all along. But we are extremely serious about wanting to see
progress and certainly will consider using those tools.
Senator WARREN. Well, like I said, you are required by law to
consider them. What I am asking for is a commitment here, and
I have to say I do not fully understand why you would not make
that commitment. These banks have known this is coming since
Dodd-Frank was passed in 2010. That is 6 years ago. And they
have been submitting living wills since 2013. There is no provision
in the law for all of the extensions that you have given them so
far. If any of these banks fail the credibility test on their fifth try,
they need to face some real consequences. Otherwise, why would
they ever make changes if there are no consequences?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, there will be consequences.
Senator WARREN. Well, I very much hope so.
You know, when you found that these five banks had submitted
living wills that were not credible, you were saying quite explicitly
that each of these banks remains too big to fail, and that if any
one of them crashed, they would risk taking down the whole economy unless they got a Government bailout. The entire goal of the
living wills process is to push the biggest banks to fix this fundamental problem, and I am glad that the Fed finally—finally—determined that some of these living wills were not credible. But it is
not going to mean anything if you are not willing to use the tools
that Congress gave you to force these banks to reduce the risks
that they are pushing off onto the taxpayers.
I have a second issue that I just want to cover here if I can briefly, and that is, I want to follow up on Senator Brown’s and Senator
Menendez’s questions about diversity. I think diversity is very important. There is a growing body of research showing, for example,
that gender diversity and leadership makes for stronger institutions. Perhaps it is not a coincidence, then, that there is a stunning
lack of diversity at our biggest financial institutions. Not a single
one is led by a woman. And while the Fed’s leadership is somewhat
more diverse, it is not a whole lot better. Of the 12 regional Fed
Presidents, 10 are men.
Now, as you know, Congressman Conyers and I, along with 120
of our colleagues, sent you a letter a few weeks ago about the lack
of diversity among the Fed’s leadership, and I appreciate the response that you sent us last week in which you acknowledged that
greater diversity can help improve the Fed’s decision making and
that there is still work to be done to improve diversity among the
Fed’s leadership.
So let me just start by asking, does the lack of diversity among
the regional Fed Presidents concern you?
Ms. YELLEN. Yes. I believe it is important to have a diverse
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I think, as you know, it is the responsibility of the regional banks’
Class B and C Directors to conduct a search and to identify candidates. The Board reviews those candidates, and we insist that
this search be national and that every attempt be made to identify
a diverse pool of candidates. And we monitor those searches while
they are ongoing to make sure that has been done. It is unfortunate——
Senator WARREN. But then let me just ask you about the outcome here, because just as you say, under the law, when a new regional Fed President is selected by the regional Fed Board, that
person must be approved by you and the others on the Board of
Governors before taking office. The Fed Board recently reappointed
each and every one of these Presidents without any public debate
or any public discussion about it.
So the question I have is: If you are concerned about this diversity issue, why didn’t you use either of these opportunities to say,
‘‘Enough is enough. Let us go back and see if we can find qualified
regional Presidents who also contribute to the overall diversity of
the Fed’s leadership’’?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, we did undertake a thorough review of the reappointments of the performance of the Presidents. The Board of
Governors has oversight of the reserve banks. There are annual
meetings between the Board’s Bank Affairs Committee and the
leadership of those banks to review the performance of the Presidents. And there were thorough reviews of the performance——
Senator WARREN. But you are telling me diversity is important,
and yet you just signed off on all these folks without any public discussion about it.
You know, I appreciate your commitment to diversity, and I have
no doubt about it. I do not question it. It just shows me that the
selection process for regional Fed Presidents is broken, because the
current process has not allowed you and the rest of the Board to
address the persistent lack of diversity among the regional Fed
Presidents.
I think that Congress should take a hard look at reforming the
regional Fed selection process so that we can all benefit from a Fed
leadership that reflects a broader array of both backgrounds and
interests.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Scott.
Senator SCOTT. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chair Yellen, thank
you for being here today, and I thank you for your hard work on
behalf of all of America.
Ms. YELLEN. Thank you.
Senator SCOTT. Frankly, you have a difficult task and one that
will not get any easier before the year is out, from my perspective.
I did find it quite interesting, the opening comments of my good
friend, the Ranking Member, Senator Brown from Ohio, as he
seemed to suggest that perhaps the failure of the economy somehow rests on the shoulders of my party. I thought to myself that
the American people are not really looking to assign blame for why
the economy is so anemic and the so-called recovery has not truly
reached into those folks living paycheck to paycheck. But it would
be easy for them to remember that at the beginning of the so-called

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recovery, the Democrats, my good friends to the left, controlled the
White House, the Senate, and the House until early January 2011.
And what did they do with that trifecta? Actually, they created the
most onerous regulatory State in the history of our country, and it
continued until even last year when the Administration proposed
80,000-plus pages of new regulations, according to the Competitive
Enterprise Institute, with an economic impact or cost to the economy of $1.85 trillion. Said differently, that this anemic recovery
perhaps is anemic because of the regulatory burden created during
those first couple of years.
And I would suggest to you that people in my home State of
South Carolina who are working paycheck to paycheck do not believe that we are actually having a strong recovery, and the numbers seem to bear that out. First-time home buyers, down for the
third consecutive year, and that disproportionately impacts African
Americans who have homeownership of around 45 percent. So the
challenge seems to continue.
Our economy grew the first quarter by 1.1 percent. We saw real
incomes since 2007 decline by 6.5 percent. Americans eligible for
food stamps is up 40 percent. Americans using food stamps are up
over 20 percent.
Last month, we saw 38,000 jobs created, and our labor force participation rate: in 2007, 66.4 percent; 2010—bless you—64.8 percent. I have got to stop and bless a woman for sneezing.
[Laughter.]
Senator SCOTT. Is that OK with you, sir? Thank you, sir. And in
2014—we are having fun up here because this is not a fun topic.
In 2014, it was 62.9 percent. In May of this year, 62.6 percent.
I would suggest that the numbers themselves bear out the fact
that perhaps the anemic recovery is not a recovery for those folks
working paycheck to paycheck. I do not know who is to blame, but
I can tell you that the American people want solutions more than
blame.
My question to you is: As you look for the rest of this year, do
you anticipate more months where the job creation number is
38,000 and in the same months where we see job creation at
38,000, we celebrate a 4.7-percent unemployment rate only because
458,000 people stopped looking for work? So when you take a real
unemployment number, based on the 2007 labor force participation
rate, would it be at 9 percent?
Ms. YELLEN. So we do expect further improvement in the coming
year. The unemployment rate fell substantially over the last year,
and there were jobs created in 2015 at about 225,000 or 230,000
a month. Perhaps we will not see job creation now that the economy is getting closer to estimates of normal longer-run rate of unemployment. But I expect continued improvement bringing down
broader measures of unemployment, which, as you noted, are much
higher. Some include involuntary part-time employment. I expect
further improvement if the labor market continues to strengthen.
Now, the last jobs report and the last couple of months of labor
market performance were quite disappointing. My hope and expectation is that that is something that is temporary, and we will see
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will be watching very carefully. My expectation is that we will see
improvement, but we will watch it very carefully.
Senator SCOTT. My last question, as my time is running out, has
to do with full employment and how to reach that wonderful goal
of full employment. When I look at the numbers that are coming
out of the need for skilled workers as well as STEM workers, it appears that by 2020 we could have a shortfall of 3 million or 4 million folks in the skilled labor force and about 5 million in the
STEM labor force. My solution has a lot to do with the German
model of apprenticeship programs. I would love to hear if you have
any solutions that you are going to be recommending as we look
at the labor force participation rate, the number of skilled jobs that
will be available, and the need to get our workforce trained in that
direction.
Ms. YELLEN. So going back probably to the mid-1980s, we have
seen a persistent shift in employment patterns from unskilled and
people with middle skills but doing jobs that can be offshored,
outsourced, to demand for skilled labor.
Senator SCOTT. Yes, ma’am.
Ms. YELLEN. And the consequence of that has been rising inequality, a high return to education, and downward pressure on
the wages of those who are less skilled and middle income. And I
completely agree with you that education and training, perhaps apprenticeships of the type that are used in some European and other
countries, these are ideas that really have to be considered if we
are going to address what comes out of that, which is that even
when you have enough jobs, you have downward pressure on the
wages and incomes of people in the middle and the bottom of the
skill distribution.
Senator SCOTT. Thank you, Chair Yellen.
Mr. Chairman, I would just suggest that at some point we are
going to have to have a national conversation about the quality of
education in our country and the necessity of a dual track. Back
in my days, we had shop, which was an important part of our education apparatus, and perhaps we need to have that conversation
again.
Thank you, Chair Yellen.
Ms. YELLEN. I agree with you.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Donnelly.
Senator DONNELLY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you,
Chair Yellen.
When you were here in February, we talked about corporate
offshoring and the devastating impact it has had on families in my
home State of Indiana and the manufacturing towns across the
country. The frustration remains.
The decline in manufacturing employment is one of the factors
that has led to a shrinking middle class. We have two economies
in this country. The overall economy might be doing well enough,
and the wealthier are richer than ever. But middle- and workingclass families are not feeling the recovery. Wages have been stagnant for years. A recent Pew report said that since 1971, each decade has ended with a smaller share of adults living in middle-income households than at the beginning of the decade.
What is the state of the economy for working families?

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Ms. YELLEN. Well, I would agree with you that for decades now,
as we were just discussing there has been downward pressure on
the incomes of less skilled individuals, and the kinds of jobs that
once upon a time were pretty readily available, say, for a high
school-educated man in manufacturing have gradually diminished.
There has been a long-term trend. Part of it is due to just the technological change that has consistently raised the demands for
skilled workers and reduced the demands for less skilled workers.
And I think globalization has also played some role.
More recently, slow growth in foreign economies, the strength of
the dollar, which really is reflective of the U.S. doing better on balance than other countries, and——
Senator DONNELLY. I understand all these reasons, but, I mean,
these are real people, as you well know.
Ms. YELLEN. I know.
Senator DONNELLY. There was an article not too long ago in the
paper here about a fellow who was making about $17 an hour at
the plant. He got fired because they shipped his job to Mexico for
$3 an hour. But the ongoing ripple of that was that his daughter,
who had applied to Indiana University, IU, got accepted. She found
out that her dad was going to lose his job, and she said, ‘‘I do not
think the family can afford for me to go to college like this.’’
That is devastating. That is the future of America. That is what
the real impact of all of this stuff is, just in the past few months,
and these are not because the companies are not doing well. They
are doing really well. But, you know, in the town next to my home
town, Elkhart, 200 jobs, shipped overseas; 700 jobs, Huntington,
Indiana, not the biggest county in the, shipped to Mexico for $3an-hour wages; 1,400 out of Indianapolis. Very profitable companies. And these folks are making, you know, $13, $14, $17 an hour.
So as long as we have the mousetrap like this, how do we ever
try to get the middle class up if even $13 an hour is too much in
these companies’ minds?
Ms. YELLEN. So these are very sad situations for workers——
Senator DONNELLY. They are wrong situations, is what they are.
Ms. YELLEN. The kind of thing you are describing imposes terrible burdens on all too many American families.
Senator DONNELLY. So how do we make America work for them?
Ms. YELLEN. Part of it is trying to make jobs. We cannot stop all
shifts occurring across sectors of the economy. I think we have to
make sure that there are opportunities——
Senator DONNELLY. But let me ask you this: Do you consider that
a shift when a company is doing really well and somebody is making 13 bucks an hour, not much above minimum wage, but lose
their job because our laws allow them to ship them to Mexico for
$3 an hour? Is that a shift? That is not really a shift in technology
or anything. That is just a cold-blooded decision that Americans do
not count as much as their profits.
Ms. YELLEN. Well, those forces have been in play for quite some
time, and, for our part at the Fed, we are trying to create a job
market where there are enough vacancies and opportunities that
people who lose jobs in one sector are able to find them in the sectors of our economy that are expanding. And sometimes to make
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forms of help to connect with available job opportunities. And
sometimes we know that kind of job loss does cost long-lasting impact on wages.
Senator DONNELLY. I will just leave it with this: It seems like
gaming the system to want to make your product somewhere else
in the hope that you can sell them back to here, to the United
States, because you are hoping that other people will be happy to
pay the $13-an-hour, $14-an-hour wages so you will have enough
customers, you are just going to game it so that you can pay the
3 bucks and then get your products back in here. And it is like you
get it on one end, and you get it on the other end. And that just
seems incredibly responsible to me.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Rounds.
Senator ROUNDS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Madam Chair, welcome. As I listened to your Monetary Policy
Report, it strikes me that the—as the Ranking Member had indicated earlier, we talk about productivity growth and the need for
both public and private investment. That requires that the dollars
come from some place. And I would like your thoughts on this just
in terms of—on the basis of what the Joint Economic Committee
had reported earlier this year. And they laid it out in some pretty
stark terms.
They indicated that 99—well, let me put it this way: Ten years
from now, in the year 2026—which, by the way, is the 250th birthday of our country—we can look forward to, under current conditions, 99 percent of all the revenue coming into the Federal Government—highway taxes, corporate taxes, personal taxes, personal
income taxes—99 percent of it is going to go back out in two categories: interest on the Federal debt and mandatory payments on
entitlements. That does not leave a lot for public investment and
clearly it does not drive private investment.
You are working on short-term activity right now and you are
monitoring very closely—you are actually, on a day-to-day basis,
following an economy right now, which, as you have suggested, is
doing very well. And yet I think a lot of us would disagree, that
three-quarters of 1 percent growth in a quarter hardly seems appropriate. And I know that you are optimistic about the second
being better, but even if it is double or even triple, we are not going
to grow our way out of this crisis which is coming upon us.
I would like your thoughts, because right now we are looking at
areas in which, if we want those jobs to come back and if we want
individuals or wages to rise, we are going to have to be in a position to where we actually grow this economy once again—tax policy, regulatory reform, actually managing our entitlements, all of
which seem critical and yet today we have not talked about that
at all. We do not seem to really have a place where we can.
Can you, as an impartial individual in this process who watches
our economy grow or falter on a daily basis, can you talk to us
about the need to do something now to avoid the crisis in 10 years?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, I think we all know, and we have known for
a long time, that with an aging population and with health care
costs that have, by and large, risen more rapidly than inflation,
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debt path and that this would require reforms. As you say, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, those three programs will, under
the current rules——
Senator ROUNDS. So you are talking—just to begin with, you are
saying the Affordable Care Act needs to be reformed——
Ms. YELLEN. Well, I did not——
Senator ROUNDS. ——as part one.
Ms. YELLEN. Well, I did not say anything about the Affordable
Care Act.
Senator ROUNDS. OK.
Ms. YELLEN. I am saying that the entitlement programs need to
be considered how to put those on a sustainable basis.
Senator ROUNDS. Would it be fair to say they need to be managed?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, they need to have Congress look at both revenues and the structure of expenditures to ensure that those programs remain sustainable in the overall Federal budget and debt
associated with that remain on a sustainable course, because as
you go out further with an aging population, as you said, the debtto-GDP ratio is rising simply unsustainably, and that does require
changes.
Senator ROUNDS. Is it fair to say that right now, if—over the
long-term basis, every time the interest rate that we have to pay
at the Federal level goes up by a quarter point, it is estimated that
approximately a $50 billion a year additional increase in our costs
being paid out. It looks to me like simply addressing and beginning
the process of slowing down the increasing Federal debt and recognizing that we cannot just simply say, over a 1-day period of time
or a 2-day period of time, that we have got all the answers, but
most certainly we are going to have to grow our way out of this
as well as reducing some of the ongoing expenditures. Fair to say?
Ms. YELLEN. It certainly would be desirable if the U.S. economy
were growing at a faster rate. You cited a very depressed number
for first-quarter growth. Over the last four quarters the average
growth has been about 2 percent, and over eight quarters it has
been about 2.5 percent. So sort of smoothing through the ups and
downs, we have been experiencing growth of 2 or 2.5 percent.
Senator ROUNDS. And we are not going to grow our way out
based upon that number, are we?
Ms. YELLEN. We would certainly have to do better than that, and
that is a matter of productivity growth essentially being quite depressed relative, for example, to the levels that we enjoyed in the
second half of the ’90s.
So it is not certain what is responsible for that but, you know,
many factors come into play. We have had depressed levels of investment. We seem to have a depressed rate of business formation.
Technological change, as it shows up in output gains, seems to
have fallen relative to those better times. And there were a range
of policies we could consider to address it, but——
Senator ROUNDS. Madam Chair, my time is up, but it looks to
me like what you are giving us is a wake up call about a crisis that
is not 10 years from now; it is right now.
Ms. YELLEN. Well, it is a very serious matter that productivity
growth is so slow, yes. I want to highlight that.

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Senator ROUNDS. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Merkley.
Senator MERKLEY. Chair Yellen, thank you.
Senator Donnelly was raising concern about manufacturing jobs
in America. And indeed, our trade policy has given full access to
our market to goods manufactured by companies in countries that
do not have to abide by the same labor laws, the same wage rules,
the same environmental rules, or the same enforcement.
This is a very unlevel playing field for American manufacturers
and has a devastating impact. The loss is extensive. And is that
really fair to the American worker to have American companies
having to compete against companies that are allowed a completely
different set of standards that lower their costs dramatically?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, I guess I would just say that, in the view of
most economists, more open trade creates net benefits, but that
does not mean benefits for everyone. And there are gainers but
there are also losers, and that is certainly part of it——
Senator MERKLEY. The losers are the manufacturing workers.
Again, is that fair to the manufacturing workers?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, it is important to have policies that address
the losses.
Senator MERKLEY. Since the mid-1970s, 1975 through now, we
have had four decades in which virtually zero—well, let me put it
different—virtually 100 percent of the new income has gone to the
top 10 percent of Americans, leaving basically 9 out of 10 Americans in our economy out in the cold. This is substantially a reflection of the shift to manufacturing overseas.
We have had a series of geostrategic decisions. We wanted to
nurture the recovery of Japan. We wanted to pull China out of the
Sino–Soviet bloc. Now we want to pull the rest of Asia away from
China. Is there an understanding within the Fed how—the costs of
these geostrategic decisions upon the welfare of American families
and through living-wage jobs—the loss of living-wage jobs?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, we have certainly looked at this question of
wage inequality, income inequality. We collect data. Our Survey of
Consumer Finances is one of the key datasets that gives us insight
into what is happening.
Academic work on this topic, while it has focused to some extent
on trade more broadly, also looks at the importance of a phenomenon called skill-biased technical change, that the nature of
technological change in recent decades has continually shifted demand away——
Senator MERKLEY. So let’s take——
Ms. YELLEN. ——from less-skilled workers toward more
skilled——
Senator MERKLEY. So let’s take that as an additional factor.
Technological change has occurred. However, a lot of the shift overseas has been due to lower wages, not to technological change. In
fact, they have been rooting up our factory machines and shipping
them overseas. So it is the same factories producing the same
goods in a place that pays less. That is not technological change.
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Technological change does have an impact. So in a situation
where, as you point out, there is more higher-skilled demand, demand for higher-skilled jobs, education becomes very important.
Ms. YELLEN. That is right.
Senator MERKLEY. But as compared to other developed economies, higher education—be it higher skill training or college—is far
more expensive. It is the single factor, more than health care, that
has gone up faster than inflation in our economy, and such that not
only is it daunting to our students who, in blue-collar communities
like the one I live in, are getting the message that there is not an
affordable path to fulfill their goals in life—and statistically we see
our students who do pursue that education burdened with debt
that is having a profound impact both on delaying marriage and on
delaying home ownership, which is the major—has been a major
engine of wealth for the middle class.
So we see this high cost of college, and that seems to me like the
type of structural concern in our economy that the Fed should be
using its economic expertise to highlight the long-term devastating
impacts of failing to provide the opportunity for the skills needed
for the economy of the future, but I do not hear the Fed talking
about that.
Ms. YELLEN. Well, we are looking at trends in student debt, and
I believe we will be hosting a conference this fall on student debt
and looking particularly at what it means for low- and moderateincome households.
Senator MERKLEY. You know, I cannot—over these last few years
I have asked so many questions in which the response is always:
That is something we are looking at. It would be nice to have a
muscular representation of the big challenges to our economy because the Fed has the expertise to put its hands around that and
be able to project that into the policy debate.
And I will just close, since my time is expiring, by saying one of
those issues that I have raised multiple times is the Fed’s power
of the conflict of interest in commodities, the ability of large financial institutions to own pipelines, to own ships full of oil, to own
energy-generation stations, to own warehouses of aluminum. And
each time I hear ‘‘we are looking at that,’’ are we still looking at
that or are we actually going to do something about that?
Ms. YELLEN. We will come out with a proposal on that, but some
of it reflects decisions that Congress made and not Fed policy.
Senator MERKLEY. That is true, there are some restrictions, but
there is still considerable power resting with the Fed.
Thank you.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Moran.
Senator MORAN. Mr. Chairman, thank you very much.
Madam Chairwoman, thank you for joining us this morning. I
would tell you that, in my conversations with Kansans, very few—
I do not know if I have had a conversation with a Kansan who sees
their economic future brighter. They see it—they are more disillusioned.
No one feels more secure in their job. No one feels like their children are going to have a brighter future. Parents are concerned
about their children’s opportunities when they graduate from
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ing for their own retirement. People are worried about having
enough income and savings to pay for health care emergencies. So
the sense of an economic recovery is far from being felt universally
with Kansans that I visit with across our State.
I wanted to just raise two questions. One, in part that circumstance is related to significantly lower agricultural commodity
prices, significantly lower prices in oil production, natural gas production. And part of that is a consequence of, I assume, the value
of our dollar in comparison to other currencies and our ability to
promote exports, both of those—certainly of agriculture commodities, although the law now allows for the export of oil as well.
But where are we in the value of our dollar? What is the intermediate expectations for us to be able to jumpstart the sale of
wheat, cattle, corn and other products, airplanes that are manufactured in our State that seemingly are not able to access those markets, in part because of the value of our currency?
Ms. YELLEN. So the value of the dollar has increased significantly since, say, mid-2014. Partly that reflects the fact that the
U.S. has enjoyed a stronger recovery than many other advanced
Nations. And that has created an expectation that in the U.S., interest rates will rise at a more rapid pace than in other parts of
the world, and that has induced inflows into our assets that have
pushed up the dollar.
But more broadly, the trends you have seen in commodity prices
I think reflect a larger set of global forces. In some cases we have
seen significant increases in the supply of commodities. In the case
of oil, the rapid growth of U.S. ability to supply oil markets has
been a factor. And then there has been a slowdown in global
growth, and particularly in China, which has been an important
consumer of so many commodities. China is on a path—and it is
understood this will continue—a path of slowing growth. And—you
have seen for many commodity prices plummet just because of
basic supply-and-demand considerations. The dollar makes some
difference to that as well.
Senator MORAN. We often talk about, when we talk about exports, trade agreements. Has the Fed weighed in, or have you expressed an opinion previously about other countries and their ability to manipulate currencies to our disadvantage of exports?
Ms. YELLEN. The responsibility for currency policy rests with——
Senator MORAN. With the Treasury Department.
Ms. YELLEN. ——the Secretary of the Treasury, and we do not
weigh in on that.
Senator MORAN. Madam Chairwoman, let me ask you about
something in your testimony. You indicate that business investment outside the energy sector was surprisingly weak. Would you
indicate to me—elaborate on the factors that lead you to that statement? And when you exclude the energy sector, is that just because
of definition or is something happening in the energy sector that
indicates investment?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, drilling activity has been very important and
it is counted as part of investment activities. So with the huge
plunge in oil prices, even though there has been some recovery, we
have seen the number of rigs in operation just plummet. And that
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And we understand that and expect it because it reflects the decline in oil prices.
But even when we go outside the energy sector or other sectors
that are directly related to energy and supplying inputs to it, investment spending recently—and this is just a report on the data;
I do not have a story to offer you on why this has happened—it has
been surprisingly weak over the last several months.
It has not been very strong investment spending generally—we
talked about this earlier—during the recovery, but it has been—
and we think we understand some reasons why it has generally
been weak, namely slow growth and less rapid increase in the labor
force. But it has been surprisingly weak in recent months and it
is something we are watching, and I cannot tell you just what that
is due to.
Senator MORAN. I would not expect you to say this but, in my
view, in part that lack of investment or that reduction in investment is related to a wide array of circumstances. One of them
would be the debt and deficit, the uncertainty of our economy, lack
of economic growth generally. The economic indicators are downtrending, not up-trending a sufficient number of times to instill a
sense of confidence. The next regulation that may come their way
as a businessperson, just decisions to make investments, people are
deciding it is more risky to invest than to not.
Ms. YELLEN. Well, those things are certainly mentioned by
businesspeople. In recent quarters, corporate earnings have also
been under downward pressure for a variety of reasons.
Senator MORAN. Well, I would conclude my remarks by indicating that one of the places we ought to focus our attention is on
innovation, startup businesses, new entrepreneurs, and the uncertainty that they face is even more of a dramatic—has more dramatic consequence than a larger business that can better internalize and handle that uncertainty.
Mr. Chairman, thank you very much. Thank you, Chairwoman.
Chairman SHELBY. Senator Cotton.
Senator COTTON. Thank you.
And thank you, Chair, for being a force again. I know these are
always two highlights of every year for you.
I want to return to some of the earlier discussion of the so-called
Brexit, the referendum that will occur in the United Kingdom on
Thursday, on whether Great Britain should remain or leave the
EU. Your testimony on page 4 says, ‘‘One development that could
shift investor sentiment is the upcoming referendum in the United
Kingdom. A U.K. vote to exit the European Union could have significant economic repercussions’’—‘‘could,’’ which you stressed to
Senator Heller in his comments. That sounds to me like the usual
prudence and caution you use in all of your public statements.
You also stated to Senator Heller, ‘‘I don’t want to overblow the
likely impacts.’’ That reminds me of Yogi Berra’s old sage advice
that predictions are hard, especially about the future.
Ms. YELLEN. That is absolutely true. I could not agree with that
more.
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Senator COTTON. Yet, in the last few minutes, here is how the
Guardian of London reports your testimony to the Committee:
‘‘Yellen warns on Brexit.’’ Not exactly what you said, is it?
Ms. YELLEN. I said that we were monitoring it and that it could
have consequences with the United States.
Senator COTTON. You would not characterize your testimony as
a warning on the Brexit?
Ms. YELLEN. If that means that I am warning U.K. residents, I
am not attempting to take a stand. They are going to go to the
polls. They have had an active debate on the issues and I am not
providing advice in that sense.
Senator COTTON. Good. Thank you. I sympathize when headlines
do not exactly capture the exact meaning of what one says. And to
be fair to the Guardian, they are not the only outlet that has reported your testimony along those lines. The BBC, Reuters, CNBC,
and Fortune have, as well.
So to be crystal clear, you take no position on whether U.K. citizens should vote to remain or leave the EU, and the Federal Reserve takes no position.
Ms. YELLEN. That is correct. It is for them to decide. I am simply
saying the decision could have economic consequences that would
be relevant to the U.S. economic outlook that we need to monitor
carefully.
Senator COTTON. Thank you for that, because I certainly think
that we all in America, and particularly in positions of leadership
in our Government, should respect the British people’s sovereign
right to govern their own affairs.
One point you made in your earlier comments about Brexit,
about the potential source of these economic repercussions, is ‘‘a period of uncertainty.’’ That is something I hear frequently in commentary about the Brexit. Is there any time when the global economy or the U.S. economy does not operate in a condition of uncertainty?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, there is uncertainty, but this is a unique
event that has no close parallel. It is hard to know what the consequences would be. Of course there is always uncertainty domestically and globally. We operate in an uncertain environment.
Senator COTTON. Many of your counterparts in the Continent,
many of my elected counterparts in the Continent, have not treated
the matter so even-handedly. They have opined on what British
citizens should do. They have also been responsible for other things
that have caused uncertainties in recent years, like the Greek debt
crisis or other debt crises in Europe, or the suspension of the
Schengen zone privileges because of the flow of migrants into Europe, and terrorists now infiltrating that flow and launching attacks in Paris and just a few blocks away from the heart of the European Union.
Those would also potentially cause periods of uncertainty in the
European and the global economy, wouldn’t they?
Ms. YELLEN. Absolutely.
Senator COTTON. Is there a risk that some of the dire predictions
about Brexit could become—or the reaction to the Brexit could become a self-fulfilling prophecy in the economy? Some British politicians have promised—or perhaps I should say threatened—imme-

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diate tax increases or budget cuts if the U.K. citizens vote to leave.
Some continental leaders have threatened punitive and retaliatory
action if the U.K. votes to leave. Our own President has said that
the United Kingdom would have to go to ‘‘the back of the queue’’
for any new trade agreement.
Do these statements have the potential to create a self-fulfilling
prophecy that would lead to increased uncertainty, whatever the
outcome on Thursday?
Ms. YELLEN. You know, I do not want to comment on what various participants in this debate have said or the advice they have
given the British people. There is an active debate. It is not inappropriate, with a decision of this sort, for many parties to weigh in
about the consequences. As I said, I am not trying to offer advice
myself to the U.K. residents about to go to the polls.
Senator COTTON. Thank you; nor am I.
One final point. Your counterpart at the ECB has said that the
ECB is ‘‘ready for all contingencies following the U.K.’s EU referendum.’’ Can you say the same thing about the Federal Reserve?
You are ready for all contingencies following the vote on Thursday?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, in the sense that we will closely monitor what
the economic consequences would be and are prepared to act in
light of that assessment.
Senator COTTON. And should the U.K. vote to leave the EU, the
United States Government as a whole, and the Federal Reserve in
particular, will handle that contingency in the spirit of magnanimity, generosity, and friendship among Nations?
Ms. YELLEN. Well, it would certainly be my inclination to do so.
Senator COTTON. Thank you for that.
Chairman SHELBY. Thank you.
Madam Chair, I want to shift the conversation a little bit to custody banks, which are very important. I think that would be banks
like State Street and New York Mellon and, I am sure, others.
It has been reported that custody banks have turned away deposits or are charging fees on deposits because of the Enhanced Supplementary Leverage Ratio. You received public comments stating
that the rule could limit the ability of custody banks to accept deposits, particularly during periods of stress.
Is the Fed currently examining how this rule is impacting custody banks’ ability to accept deposits, one? Two, could this rule increase systemic risk during times of stress? And three, just for the
audience—they probably know—what is a custody bank as opposed
to the ordinary retail bank, for example?
Ms. YELLEN. So a custody bank is one that handles transactions
for other customers, like asset managers.
Chairman SHELBY. Very important, isn’t it? A custody bank is
important to the banking system, is it not?
Ms. YELLEN. Yes, they are.
Chairman SHELBY. OK.
Ms. YELLEN. And we certainly are aware that they are concerned
about the Supplementary Leverage Ratio impacting their profitability. Leverage ratios are normally intended to be a backup form
of capital regulation. They are not oriented toward the risk of particular assets in the balance sheet but impose a minimum amount
of capital that applies to the entire balance sheet, all assets. And

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so, for safe assets in banks that hold large quantities of safe assets,
it can be a burden. And it is something that we will monitor, but
this is the way leverage ratios have always been imposed against
all of the assets of the overall size of the organization.
Chairman SHELBY. Thank you.
Senator Brown, do you have anything else?
Senator BROWN. Nope, that is it. Thank you.
Chairman SHELBY. Madam Chair, thank you for your participation. I know it has been long, but I thank you for appearing before
the Committee again.
Ms. YELLEN. Thank you.
Chairman SHELBY. The Committee is adjourned.
[Whereupon, at 12:27 p.m., the hearing was adjourned.]
[Prepared statements, responses to written questions, and additional material supplied for the record follow:]

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PREPARED STATEMENT OF JANET L. YELLEN
CHAIR, BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
JUNE 21, 2016
Chairman Shelby, Ranking Member Brown, and other Members of the Committee,
I am pleased to present the Federal Reserve’s semiannual Monetary Policy Report
to the Congress. In my remarks today, I will briefly discuss the current economic
situation and outlook before turning to monetary policy.
Current Economic Situation and Outlook
Since my last appearance before this Committee in February, the economy has
made further progress toward the Federal Reserve’s objective of maximum employment. And while inflation has continued to run below our 2-percent objective, the
Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) expects inflation to rise to that level over
the medium term. However, the pace of improvement in the labor market appears
to have slowed more recently, suggesting that our cautious approach to adjusting
monetary policy remains appropriate.
In the labor market, the cumulative increase in jobs since its trough in early 2010
has now topped 14 million, while the unemployment rate has fallen more than 5
percentage points from its peak. In addition, as we detail in the Monetary Policy
Report, jobless rates have declined for all major demographic groups, including for
African Americans and Hispanics. Despite these declines, however, it is troubling
that unemployment rates for these minority groups remain higher than for the Nation overall, and that the annual income of the median African American household
is still well below the median income of other U.S. households.
During the first quarter of this year, job gains averaged 200,000 per month, just
a bit slower than last year’s pace. And while the unemployment rate held steady
at 5 percent over this period, the labor force participation rate moved up noticeably.
In April and May, however, the average pace of job gains slowed to only 80,000 per
month or about 100,000 per month after adjustment for the effects of a strike. The
unemployment rate fell to 4.7 percent in May, but that decline mainly occurred because fewer people reported that they were actively seeking work. A broader measure of labor market slack that includes workers marginally attached to the workforce and those working part-time who would prefer full-time work was unchanged
in May and remains above its level prior to the recession. Of course, it is important
not to overreact to one or two reports, and several other timely indicators of labor
market conditions still look favorable. One notable development is that there are
some tentative signs that wage growth may finally be picking up. That said, we will
be watching the job market carefully to see whether the recent slowing in employment growth is transitory, as we believe it is.
Economic growth has been uneven over recent quarters. U.S. inflation-adjusted
gross domestic product (GDP) is currently estimated to have increased at an annual
rate of only 3⁄4 percent in the first quarter of this year. Subdued foreign growth and
the appreciation of the dollar weighed on exports, while the energy sector was hard
hit by the steep drop in oil prices since mid-2014; in addition, business investment
outside of the energy sector was surprisingly weak. However, the available indicators point to a noticeable step-up in GDP growth in the second quarter. In particular, consumer spending has picked up smartly in recent months, supported by
solid growth in real disposable income and the ongoing effects of the increases in
household wealth. And housing has continued to recover gradually, aided by income
gains and the very low level of mortgage rates.
The recent pickup in household spending, together with underlying conditions
that are favorable for growth, lead me to be optimistic that we will see further improvements in the labor market and the economy more broadly over the next few
years. Monetary policy remains accommodative; low oil prices and ongoing job gains
should continue to support the growth of incomes and therefore consumer spending;
fiscal policy is now a small positive for growth; and global economic growth should
pick up over time, supported by accommodative monetary policies abroad. As a result, the FOMC expects that with gradual increases in the Federal funds rate, economic activity will continue to expand at a moderate pace and labor market indicators will strengthen further.
Turning to inflation, overall consumer prices, as measured by the price index for
personal consumption expenditures, increased just 1 percent over the 12 months
ending in April, up noticeably from its pace through much of last year but still well
short of the Committee’s 2-percent objective. Much of this shortfall continues to reflect earlier declines in energy prices and lower prices for imports. Core inflation,
which excludes energy and food prices, has been running close to 11⁄2 percent. As
the transitory influences holding down inflation fade and the labor market strength-

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ens further, the Committee expects inflation to rise to 2 percent over the medium
term. Nonetheless, in considering future policy decisions, we will continue to carefully monitor actual and expected progress toward our inflation goal.
Of course, considerable uncertainty about the economic outlook remains. The latest readings on the labor market and the weak pace of investment illustrate one
downside risk—that domestic demand might falter. In addition, although I am optimistic about the longer-run prospects for the U.S. economy, we cannot rule out the
possibility expressed by some prominent economists that the slow productivity
growth seen in recent years will continue into the future. Vulnerabilities in the global economy also remain. Although concerns about slowing growth in China and falling commodity prices appear to have eased from earlier this year, China continues
to face considerable challenges as it rebalances its economy toward domestic demand and consumption and away from export-led growth. More generally, in the
current environment of sluggish growth, low inflation, and already very accommodative monetary policy in many advanced economies, investor perceptions of and appetite for risk can change abruptly. One development that could shift investor sentiment is the upcoming referendum in the United Kingdom. A U.K. vote to exit the
European Union could have significant economic repercussions. For all of these reasons, the Committee is closely monitoring global economic and financial developments and their implications for domestic economic activity, labor markets, and inflation.
Monetary Policy
I will turn next to monetary policy. The FOMC seeks to promote maximum employment and price stability, as mandated by the Congress. Given the economic situation I just described, monetary policy has remained accommodative over the first
half of this year to support further improvement in the labor market and a return
of inflation to our 2-percent objective. Specifically, the FOMC has maintained the
target range for the Federal funds rate at 1⁄4 to 1⁄2 percent and has kept the Federal
Reserve’s holdings of longer-term securities at an elevated level.
The Committee’s actions reflect a careful assessment of the appropriate setting for
monetary policy, taking into account continuing below-target inflation and the
mixed readings on the labor market and economic growth seen this year. Proceeding
cautiously in raising the Federal funds rate will allow us to keep the monetary support to economic growth in place while we assess whether growth is returning to
a moderate pace, whether the labor market will strengthen further, and whether inflation will continue to make progress toward our 2-percent objective. Another factor
that supports taking a cautious approach in raising the Federal funds rate is that
the Federal funds rate is still near its effective lower bound. If inflation were to remain persistently low or the labor market were to weaken, the Committee would
have only limited room to reduce the target range for the Federal funds rate. However, if the economy were to overheat and inflation seemed likely to move significantly or persistently above 2 percent, the FOMC could readily increase the target
range for the Federal funds rate.
The FOMC continues to anticipate that economic conditions will improve further
and that the economy will evolve in a manner that will warrant only gradual increases in the Federal funds rate. In addition, the Committee expects that the Federal funds rate is likely to remain, for some time, below the levels that are expected
to prevail in the longer run because headwinds—which include restraint on U.S.
economic activity from economic and financial developments abroad, subdued household formation, and meager productivity growth—mean that the interest rate needed to keep the economy operating near its potential is low by historical standards.
If these headwinds slowly fade over time, as the Committee expects, then gradual
increases in the Federal funds rate are likely to be needed. In line with that view,
most FOMC participants, based on their projections prepared for the June meeting,
anticipate that values for the Federal funds rate of less than 1 percent at the end
of this year and less than 2 percent at the end of next year will be consistent with
their assessment of appropriate monetary policy.
Of course, the economic outlook is uncertain, so monetary policy is by no means
on a preset course and FOMC participants’ projections for the Federal funds rate
are not a predetermined plan for future policy. The actual path of the Federal funds
rate will depend on economic and financial developments and their implications for
the outlook and associated risks. Stronger growth or a more rapid increase in inflation than the Committee currently anticipates would likely make it appropriate to
raise the Federal funds rate more quickly. Conversely, if the economy were to disappoint, a lower path of the Federal funds rate would be appropriate. We are committed to our dual objectives, and we will adjust policy as appropriate to foster financial conditions consistent with their attainment over time.

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The Committee is continuing its policy of reinvesting proceeds from maturing
Treasury securities and principal payments from agency debt and mortgage-backed
securities. As highlighted in the statement released after the June FOMC meeting,
we anticipate continuing this policy until normalization of the level of the Federal
funds rate is well under way. Maintaining our sizable holdings of longer-term securities should help maintain accommodative financial conditions and should reduce
the risk that we might have to lower the Federal funds rate to the effective lower
bound in the event of a future large adverse shock.
Thank you. I would be pleased to take your questions.

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RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF CHAIRMAN SHELBY
FROM JANET L. YELLEN

Q.1. In connection with the release of the proposed rule on singlecounterparty credit limits, the Board released a white paper with
a quantitative credit risk model and calibrated that model to determine the appropriate credit limits. Will you commit to using similar quantitative analyses on all future capital and liquidity
rulemakings, and will you make such analyses public?
A.1. The Federal Reserve Board (Board) carefully considers the cost
and benefits of all regulations that it proposes. The nature and
scope of the analysis depends in large part on the nature of the
rule, the underlying statutory framework for the rule, and the extent to which the potential costs and benefits of the rule lend themselves to rigorous quantification.
The Board typically publishes its assessment of the costs, benefits, and impact of a rule as part of the rule itself, but has occasionally issued such an assessment in a separate white paper. In each
case, the Board chooses a publication format for its assessment
that is best suited for the public communication of the particular
analysis and results. The Board has chosen to publish white papers
on occasions where the level of detail needed to communicate its
assessment has been greater than what would typically appear in
the preamble to a proposed or final rule.
It is important to point out that the calibration of a rule can
rarely be fully reduced to the output of a single mathematical formula with a set of parameters that are known with certainty.
Therefore, the Board is careful not to ascribe a false level of precision to its analyses. Typically, the Board’s goal in publishing an
analysis such as the Calibrating the Single-Counterparty Credit
Limit between Systemically Important Financial Institutions white
paper is not to derive an exact calibration for a regulatory threshold, but rather to demonstrate that under a range of plausible assumptions and parameter values, the calibration of the regulatory
threshold in question is defensible. In the case of proposed
rulemakings, the publication of the analysis may also point out
where further data from the industry could be helpful, and may encourage the industry to provide such data during the comment period.
In the future, the Board will continue to perform appropriate
quantitative analyses for proposed and final rules, and will strive
to publish such analyses in the most suitable form to solicit public
input on, and enhance public understanding of, our rules.
Q.2. Is it possible that the [Enhanced Supplementary Leverage
Ratio] rule could increase systemic risk due to its impact on the
ability of custody banks to accept deposits during times of stress?
What type of analysis has the Board performed to examine this
issue?
A.2. The Federal Reserve Board (Board) and the other Federal
banking agencies (the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency
and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation) adopted enhanced
supplementary leverage ratio (SLR) standards for the largest, global systemically important bank holding companies and their insured depository subsidiaries, effective January 1, 2018 (5 percent

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and 6 percent SLR, respectively). 1 The enhanced SLR is one part
of the enhanced prudential standards adopted by the Board that,
taken together, improve the resiliency of individual companies and
strengthen financial stability. For example, companies subject to
the enhanced SLR standards are also subject to risk-based capital
surcharges that are scaled to their systemic risk profiles, liquidity
risk
management
and
risk
measurement
requirements,
supervisory- and company-run stress testing and capital planning
requirements, and resolution planning standards.
Depending on a banking organization’s business structure and
mix of assets, banking organizations will be affected by the SLR
differently. Custody banks, which engage in a variety of activities
may experience increases in assets based on economic events, particularly during periods of financial market stress. The SLR does
not impose any specific restrictions on any particular asset profile,
including the asset profile of custody banks. Rather, the SLR requires that banking organizations hold a certain amount of capital
to support their total assets. In this regard, the SLR final rule requires banks to use daily average balance-sheet assets to calculate
the amount of their assets each quarter. This approach helps to
mitigate the impact of spikes in deposits that banking organizations, such as custody banks, may experience. The agencies also
have reserved authority under their respective capital rules to require a banking organization to use a different asset amount for an
exposure included in the SLR to address extraordinary situations. 2
As part of several rulemakings that are applicable to global systemically important banking organizations, which includes the
largest U.S. custodial banking organizations, the Board estimated
the impact that such rulemakings would have on these firms’ regulatory capital ratios, including on the leverage ratio. Prior to finalizing the enhanced SLR standards, the staff of the Federal banking
agencies, including Board, analyzed regulatory and confidential supervisory data to determine the quantitative impact of these rules
on subject firms. According to their public disclosures, global systemically important bank holding companies and their insured depository institutions have made significant progress in complying
with the enhanced SLR standards that take effect January 1, 2018.
Board staff continuously evaluates the capital planning processes
and capital adequacy of the largest U.S.-based bank holding companies through its Comprehensive Capital Analysis and Review
(CCAR), which will incorporate the SLR requirements under
stressed conditions beginning with the 2017 exercise.
Q.3. One of the stated goals of the Federal Reserve’s Quantitative
Easing (QE) programs was to put downward pressure on long-term
interest rates and thereby ‘‘reduce the cost and increase the availability of credit for the purchase of houses, which in turn should
support housing markets and foster improved conditions in financial markets more generally.’’ 3 Nonetheless, studies by Soebel and
1 See
2 See

79 FR 24528 (May 1, 2014).
12 CFR 3.1(d)(4) (OCC); 12 CFR 217.1(d)(4) (Federal Reserve); 12 CFR 324.1(d)(4)

(FDIC).
3 See: http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/monetary/20081125b.htm.

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Taylor (2012) 4 and Belke, Gros, and Osowski (2016), 5 among others, have found that QE was not effective at reducing long-term
rates. To what degree can currently low long-term interest rates be
attributed to a decades-long trend of decline versus the effects of
QE?
A.3. The Federal Reserve and many other central banks have used
purchases of longer-term assets as a tool to provide additional policy accommodation once the level of short-term interest rates
reached the effective lower bound. The effectiveness of large-scale
asset purchases (LSAPs) as a tool for providing additional policy
accommodation—at both conceptual and empirical levels—has been
a topic of active discussion and research among economists and
others. On balance, the results of recent research support the view
that LSAPs are an important and effective tool that central banks
can use to put downward pressure on longer-term rates and make
overall financial conditions more accommodative. These changes in
financial conditions, in turn, help to support the level of economic
activity and guard against disinflationary pressures.
Regarding the conceptual framework for the effects of LSAPs,
many authors have pointed to a range of channels through which
large scale asset purchases may affect financial markets and the
economy. A particularly important channel for the influence of
LSAPs operates through basic supply and demand factors. By purchasing large volumes of longer-term Treasury and agency securities in its large scale asset purchase programs, the Federal Reserve
reduced the quantity of those assets held by private investors.
Given strong private sector demand for those longer-term Treasury
and agency securities, the reduction in the available private supply
of those assets tended to push up their prices and push down their
yields. Investors holding lower-yielding Treasury and agency securities then tend to bid up the prices and push down the yields on
other assets that are reasonably close substitutes such as corporate
bonds and many other fixed-income investments. Lower levels of
private yields generally boost the prices for a range of assets including equities, home values, and many other types of investments. These changes in financial conditions, on net, contribute to
lower borrowing costs for households and businesses and generally
more accommodative financial conditions.
Regarding the empirical basis for the effectiveness of LSAPs,
while the studies that you cite conclude that LSAPs have not been
effective, many other studies to date find that these programs have
been successful in providing additional policy accommodation. Indeed, some studies suggest that yields on longer-term Treasury securities could be 50 to 100 basis points lower at present than would
otherwise be the case in the absence of the Federal Reserve’s asset
purchases. Moreover, these estimates typically focus on only the direct effects of LSAPs on yields operating through basic supply effects and thus may understate the effects of asset purchases that
4 Stroebel, Johannes, and John B. Taylor (2012), ‘‘Estimated Impact of the Federal Reserve’s
Mortgage-Backed Securities Purchase Program’’, International Journal of Central Banking
8(2):1–42.
5 Belke, Ansgar, Daniel Gros, and Thomas Osowski (2016), ‘‘Did Quantitative Easing Affect
Interest Rates Outside the U.S.? New Evidence Based on Interest Rate Differentials’’, CEPS
Working Paper No. 416.

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can stem from other channels. For example, large scale asset purchase programs may help to reinforce central bank communications
about the future path of the Federal funds rate—the so-called signaling channel. In addition, large scale asset purchases may have
significant effects in financial markets at times when markets are
under severe stress by enhancing market liquidity and bolstering
market confidence. By boosting asset prices and lowering borrowing
costs, these changes in asset prices provide support for spending
and guard against downward pressures on inflation.
See Vayanos and Vila (2009) 6 and Li and Wei (2013 ) 7 for a discussion of the effects of LSAPs on interest rates in a modern models of the term structure of interest rates. See Li and Wei (2013),
Hamilton and Wu (2011) 8, and D’Amico, English, Lopez-Salido,
and Nelson (2012) 9 for a discussion of empirical estimates of the
effects of LSAPs; see Chung, Laforte, Reifschneider, and Williams
(2012) 10 and Engen, Laubach, and Reifschneider (2015) 11 for a discussion of the effects of LSAPs in providing macroeconomic stimulus.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR CRAPO
FROM JANET L. YELLEN

Q.1. In previous hearings I have encouraged our banking regulators to make the 10-year regulatory review meaningful and provide specific ways to reduce the regulatory burden on financial institutions while at the same time ensuring the safety and soundness of the financial system. Last week Senator Tester and I sent
you a letter highlighting feedback from the EGRPRA outreach
meetings questioning the need for four capital minimum requirements, a capital conservation buffer, and the complexity in the definition of tier 1 capital for community banks.
Do you agree that our banking regulators should simplify and
tailor the capital framework for community banks?
A.1. Federal Reserve Board (Board) staff are currently exploring
ways to simplify and tailor the regulatory capital requirements for
community banking organizations in a manner that will be consistent with the safety and soundness aims of prudential regulation
and with statutory requirements. As part of these efforts, Board
staff are considering simplifications to certain aspects of the current capital framework, including those suggested in your letter,
and associated reporting forms and instructions.
6 Vayanos, Dmitri, and Jean-Luc Vila (2009), ‘‘A Preferred Habitat Model of the Term Structure of Interest Rates’’, NBER Working Paper, 15487.
7 Li, Canlin, and Min Wei (2013), ‘‘Term Structure Modelling With Supply Factors and the
Federal Reserve’s Large Scale Asset Purchase Programs’’, International Journal of Central
Banking, 9(1), pp.3–39.
8 Hamilton, James, and Cynthia Wu (2011), ‘‘The Effectiveness of Alternative Monetary Policy
Tools in a Zero Lower Bound Environment’’, NBER Working Paper 16956.
9 D’Amico, Stefania, William English, David Lopez-Salido, and Edward Nelson (2012), ‘‘The
Federal Reserve’s Large-Scale Asset Purchase Programs: Rationale and Effects’’, FEDS Working
Paper series, 2012-85.
10 Chung, Hess, Jean-Philippe Laforte, David Reifschneider, and John Williams (2012), ‘‘Have
We Underestimated the Likelihood and Severity of Zero Lower Bound Events?’’ Journal of
Money, Credit and Banking, vol. 44(S1), 47–82.
11 Engen, Eric M., Thomas Laubach, and David Reifschnieder (2015), ‘‘The Macroeconomic Effects of the Federal Reserve’s Unconventional Policies’’, FEDS Working Paper, 2015-005.

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Q.2. On June 9th, the European Commission announced that it
would delay its start date from September 1 to mid-2017 on the implementation of the margin requirements. I assume this announcement surprised you and your fellow regulators since for the last 3
years all the international regulators have been working to ensure
global consistency in application of margin requirements in various
jurisdictions around the world and established a phased-in schedule.
What steps can the U.S. regulators take to address this timing
issue and avoid fragmentation and competitive disadvantages and
achieve global consistency?
A.2. On June 9, 2016, U.S. regulators were informed by staff of the
European Commission that the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision–International Organization of Securities Commissions’
(BCBS–IOSCO) margin framework for over-the-counter derivatives
would not be enacted in the European Union in time for the upcoming September 2016 implementation deadline.
Under the BCBS–IOSCO framework, large swap market participants with over $3 trillion in noncleared swaps exposures are to
begin complying with margin requirements on September 1, 2016,
for their noncleared swaps with other large market participants.
This agreed-upon implementation schedule is reflected in the final
swap margin rules adopted in October 2015 and November 2015 by
the U.S. prudential regulators and the Commodity Futures Trading
Commission (CFTC), respectively.
Minimum margin requirements for noncleared swaps are among
the most important postfinancial crisis reforms to reduce uncertainty around possible exposures arising from noncleared swaps by
requiring firms to have financial resources commensurate with the
risks of the swaps into which they have entered. Sections 731 and
764 of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (Dodd-Frank Act) mandate that the U.S. regulators write
rules for initial margin and variation margin for noncleared swaps.
We intend to move forward with implementation of the prudential regulator final swap margin rule on September 1, 2016, as
agreed to under the BCBS–IOSCO framework and as required by
the Dodd-Frank Act. We have consulted with colleagues at the
CFTC, and we understand they also plan to move forward with implementation on September 1, 2016.
We are in close communication with our European Union counterparts and are urging them to move forward with implementation
as soon as possible to avoid fragmentation and competitive disadvantages and achieve global consistency.
Q.3. I have heard concerns from clearinghouses and end users of
the derivatives markets related to the treatment of customer margin under the Basel leverage ratio. The posting of margin is required for end user customers who use the futures market to manage their business risks. As was widely espoused during development of the Dodd-Frank Act, margin posted to a clearing member
bank both protects the customer from counterparty risk and offsets
the clearing member bank’s exposure to the clearinghouse.

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Why then does the leverage ratio not recognize this offset rather
than penalize bank affiliated clearing members who accept customer margin?
A.3. The Board and the other Federal banking agencies (the Office
of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation) adopted a supplementary leverage ratio (SLR)
rule that applies to internationally active banking organizations. 1
As designed, the SLR rule requires a banking organization to hold
a minimum amount of capital against on-balance sheet assets and
off-balance exposures, regardless of the riskiness of the individual
exposure. This leverage ratio requirement is designed to recognize
that the risk a banking organization poses to the financial system
is a factor of its size as well as the composition of its assets. The
denominator of the SLR, total leverage exposure, generally includes
all on-balance sheet assets as determined by United States generally accepted accounting principles, as well as certain off balance
sheet items. If a banking organization records clients’ cash initial
margin on its balance sheet, such margin is included in the banking organization’s total leverage exposure. Whether cash initial
margin is recorded on the balance sheet depends on the details of
each specific margin agreement.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR TOOMEY
FROM JANET L. YELLEN

Q.1. The Financial Stability Board (FSB), of which the Federal Reserve is a member, has designated several American companies as
global systemically important insurers (G-SIIs). The U.S., however,
has its own designation process for nonbank systemically important
financial institution (SIFI) managed by the Financial Stability
Oversight Council (FSOC). Though the FSB and FSOC share some
members, not all American G-SIIs are currently SIFIs. This disparity in designations appears to undermine the credibility of both
regulatory bodies. Should the U.S. representatives to the FSB support the rescission of the G-SII designation for American companies
that are not U.S. designated SIFIs?
A.1. Since the financial crisis, U.S. authorities and foreign regulators have been working to identify institutions whose failure or
distress may pose a threat to financial stability, including nonbank
financial companies like insurance firms. The leaders of the Group
of 20 Nations, including the United States, charged the Financial
Stability Board (FSB) with identifying firms whose distress would
threaten the global economy. The Financial Stability Oversight
Council (FSOC) undertakes a process for designating nonbank
firms as systemically important that assesses the potential harm
that a firm’s distress or failure could cause to the economy of the
United States. The fact that both groups have examined the same
firms, at times in close proximity, is to be expected given the limited number of firms that would reasonably be large and interconnected enough to be considered systemically important.
However, the specific designation frameworks and standards at
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fying global systemically important insurers (G-SIIs) is completely
independent from the FSOCs designation process. Indeed, a designation by the FSB that an insurer is systemically important
would not logically require a similar finding by the FSOC, even if
the FSB and the FSOC agreed on the underlying facts. The methodology for identifying G-SIIs is developed by the International Association of Insurance Supervisors (IAIS) and has been updated
this year. The FSOC’s analysis is based on a broad range of quantitative and qualitative information available to the FSOC through
existing public and regulatory sources and as submitted to the
FSOC by the firms under consideration. The analysis is tailored, as
appropriate, to address company-specific risk factors, including, but
not limited to, the nature, scope, size, scale, concentration, interconnectedness, and mix of the activities of the firms. In addition,
any standards adopted by the FSB, including any designation of an
entity as a G-SII, are not binding on the Federal Reserve, the
FSOC, or any other agency of the U.S. Government, or any U.S.
companies. Thus, FSB designation of an entity as a G-SII does not
result in the Federal Reserve becoming the entity’ s prudential regulator. Under the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer
Protection Act (Dodd-Frank Act), the FSOC is responsible for deciding whether a nonbank financial company should be regulated and
supervised by the Federal Reserve Board, based on the FSOC’s assessment of the extent to which the failure, material distress, or
ongoing activities of that entity could pose a risk to the U.S. financial system.
As a member of the FSB, the Federal Reserve, together with
other U.S. agencies, participates in the FSB’s work, including G-SII
designations, and provides input that considers implications for
U.S. domiciled firms that the Federal Reserve supervises as well as
global financial stability. A decision to rescind the designation of
any G-SII requires a careful evaluation of the firm and its global
systemic footprint in accordance with the methodology developed
by the IAIS. The Federal Reserve, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, and the U.S. Department of Treasury are all
members of the FSB and engage in the FSB’s global financial stability work. Moreover, the Federal Reserve is participating as a
member of the IAIS alongside the Federal Insurance Office (FIO),
the National Association of Insurance Commissioners (NAIC), and
State insurance regulators in the development of international insurance standards that best meet the needs of the U.S. insurance
market and consumers. The Federal Reserve, along with other
members of the U.S. delegation at the FIO and NAIC, actively engage U.S. interested parties on issues being considered by the IAIS.
Q.2. Will the FSB review its list of G-SIIs in 2016, and will that
review include the possibility for the rescission of current G-SII
designations? What analysis will the Fed review or develop to support its positions on 2016 G-SII designations?
A.2. As noted by the FSB in its 2015 update of the list of G-SIIs,
‘‘the group of G-SIIs would be updated annually based on new data
published by the FSB each November,’’ where changes to the list
may ‘‘reflect changes in the level and/or type of activity undertaken
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ment.’’ 1 The 2016 review will cover the presently identified G-SIIs,
which may result in changes to the institutions included in the list,
and will use the G-SII assessment methodology as updated by the
IAIS on June 16, 2016, among other things. Federal Reserve staff
will review documents associated with the development of the
methodology and will continue to confer with other U.S. members
of the FSB and IAIS.
Q.3. The systemically important designation, by both international
and American regulators, has proven to have a profound impact on
designated American companies, their employees, and their customers. Nevertheless, transparency in these designation processes
remains lacking. As a participant at the FSB, what steps will you
take to increase transparency into activities at the FSB?
A.3. The Federal Reserve strongly supports transparency in the
methods and processes that the IAIS and FSB use to identify GSIIs. On November 25, 2015, the IAIS issued a public consultation
document on the methodology used to identify and analyze potential G-SIIs. The Federal Reserve participated in the review of comments received from stakeholders in the U.S. and around the
world. The revised methodology was released as a public paper on
June 16, 2016, and has been implemented. The revisions to the GSII identification process increased the involvement of the insurance companies and their relevant supervisors in the process
through its five phases: (1) the collection of data, (2) quality control
on the data, initial scoring of the company, and grouping relative
to a quantitative threshold for the score, (3) additional information
collection and methodical assessment of companies that cross the
quantitative threshold, (4) information exchange between the company, relevant authorities, and the IAIS, and (5) recommendation
by the IAIS to the FSB, which then deliberates on a confidential
basis to protect the confidentiality of company data. The updated
assessment methodology contemplates transparency that was not
part of the prior assessment methodology, including transparency
with companies that are subject to phases 1 through 4 and other
transparent engagement with companies subject to only phases 1
and 2, as well as certain public disclosure of aggregate and methodology information after the G-SII identification process is complete.
Moreover, the JAIS has committed to further developing public disclosure.
It is important to note that neither the FSB, nor the IAIS, has
the ability to impose requirements in any national jurisdiction. The
FSOC makes its own independent decisions on designating
nonbank financial companies, using the statutory standards set
forth in the Dodd-Frank Act.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR KIRK
FROM JANET L. YELLEN

Q.1. As you know, the financial regulators, including the Federal
Reserve Board, recently put forward a joint proposed rule on execu1 FSB, 2015 Update of List of Global Systemically Important Insurers (G-SIIs) dated Nov. 3,
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tive compensation pursuant to section 956 of the Dodd-Frank Act.
The rules, which are intended to reduce systemic risk, would represent a sweeping change to executive compensation arrangements
for many financial institutions, and would apply to a subset of insurance companies—those that own thrifts. There is concern that
the rules are very bank-centric and not in any way tailored to insurance companies subject to the rule. As the Fed noted in its release of proposed capital rules for insurers, thrift insurers do not
pose systemic risk, and generally have a very distinct business
model from the banks that are the central target of the Fed’s proposed executive compensation rule. The one-size-fits-all approach
by the Fed in the executive compensation rule is counter to the
agency’s own statements on thrift insurers, and counter to the
Fed’s insurance-specific approach for capital rules for thrift insurers. Furthermore, the Federal Reserve’s analysis underlying the
rule, including the horizontal review, was focused solely on banks.
Are you willing to conduct an analysis of insurance executive
compensation practices and insurance risks before finalizing the
rule for thrift insurers, and will you treat insurers distinctly from
banks in the final rule, consistent with the treatment of thrift insurers for capital purposes?
A.1. Pursuant to section 956 of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform
and Consumer Protection Act (Dodd-Frank Act), the Agencies 1
joint notice of proposed rulemaking 2 covers all depository institution holding companies, including all savings and loan holding companies. 3 As described in the preamble, the proposed rule does not
establish a rigid, one-size-fits-all approach. Rather, the Agencies
have tailored the requirements of the proposed rule to the size and
complexity of covered institutions. In addition, the proposed rule
would allow firms to tailor the incentive based compensation arrangements to the nature of a particular institution’s business and
the risks, as long as those incentive-based compensation arrangements appropriately balance risk and reward. The methods by
which such balance is achieved would be permitted to differ by institution and across business lines and operating units. The preamble invited comment on the impact of the proposed rule on all
covered institutions. The Agencies have included numerous questions, touching all aspects of the proposed rule, including the tailoring of institutions by asset size and the definitions of significant
risk takers. We will consider your comments and all comments we
receive in the final rulemaking process.
1 Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC), Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System (Board); Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC); Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA); National Credit Union Administration (NCUA); and U.S. Securities and Exchange
Commission (SEC).
2 81 FR 37670 (July 10, 2016).
3 Section 956 of the Dodd-Frank Act defines ‘‘covered financial institution’’ to include any of
the following types of institutions that have $1 billion or more in assets: (A) a depository institution or depository institution holding company, as such terms are defined in section 3 of the
Federal Deposit Insurance Act (FDIA) (12 U.S.C. 1813); (B) a broker-dealer registered under section 15 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 780); (C) a credit union, as described
in section 19(b)(1)(A)(iv) of the Federal Reserve Act; (D) an investment adviser, as such term
is defined in section 202(a)(11) of the Investment Advisers Act of 1940 (15 U.S.C. 80b-2(a)(11));
(E) the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae); (F) the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac); and (G) any other financial institution that the appropriate
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RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR HELLER
FROM JANET L. YELLEN

Q.1. What are the precise criteria and metrics that Financial Stability Oversight Council (FSOC) uses to determine whether to designate an intuition as a Systemically Important Financial Institution?
A.1. The Financial Stability Oversight Council (Council) may determine that a nonbank financial company should be supervised by
the Federal Reserve Board (Board) and be subject to prudential
standards ‘‘if the Council determines that material financial distress at the U.S. nonbank financial company, or the nature, scope,
size, scale, concentration, interconnectedness, or mix of the activities of the U.S. nonbank financial company, could pose a threat to
the financial stability of the United States.’’ 1
In considering whether a nonbank financial company should be
supervised by the Board and subject to prudential standards, the
Council considers the following statutory factors: 2
1. The extent of the leverage of the company;
2. the extent and nature of the off-balance-sheet exposures of the
company;
3. the extent and nature of the transactions and relationships of
the company with other significant nonbank financial companies and significant bank holding companies;
4. the importance of the company as a source of credit for households, businesses, and State and local governments and as a
source of liquidity for the United States financial system;
5. the importance of the company as a source of credit for lowincome, minority, or underserved communities, and the impact that the failure of such company would have on the availability of credit in such communities;
6. the extent to which assets are managed rather than owned by
the company, and the extent to which ownership of assets
under management is diffuse;
7. the nature, scope, size, scale, concentration, interconnectedness, and mix of the activities of the company;
8. the degree to which the company is already regulated by one
or more primary financial regulatory agencies;
9. the amount and nature of the financial assets of the company;
and
10. the amount and types of the liabilities of the company, including the degree of reliance on short-term funding.
In 2012, the Council adopted a rule and interpretive guidance
that describe the manner in which the Council applies the statutory standards and considerations, and the processes and procedures that the Council follows, in making determinations under
section 113 of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer
1 Dodd-Frank

Act section 113(a)(1), 12 U.S.C. § 5323(a)(1).
Council may also consider any other risk-related factors that it deems appropriate.
Dodd-Frank Act section 113(a)(2), 12 U.S.C. §5323(a)(2).
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Protection Act (Dodd-Frank Act). 3 In 2015, the Council revised certain of its practices related to evaluation of nonbank financial companies and adopted supplemental procedures to bolster engagement
with companies during evaluations for potential determinations
and annual reevaluations, as well as transparency to the public. 4
The Council’s assessment of whether a nonbank financial company meets the statutory standard is based on an evaluation of
each of the statutory factors, taking into account facts and circumstances relevant to the company. Quantitative metrics, together with qualitative analysis, informs the judgment of the Council when it is evaluating whether a nonbank financial company
should be supervised by the Board and be subject to prudential
standards. Because the impact of a firm’s material distress or activities on financial stability is firm-specific, the Council conducts
its analysis on a company-by-company basis in order to take into
account the potential risks and mitigating factors that are unique
to each company.
Q.2. Do you think there is room for improvement in the FSOC’s annual review and derisking process, and what would you suggest?
A.2. At the time the Council determines that a nonbank financial
company should be supervised by the Board and subject to prudential standards, the nonbank financial company is given a detailed
basis for the determination. A company can use that information,
as well as the factors the Council is required to consider under the
Dodd-Frank Act, to guide its effort to reduce its systemic footprint.
The Dodd-Frank Act requires the Council to reevaluate the determinations at least annually. The Council’s reevaluation process
considers whether the nonbank financial company continues to
meet the standards under the Dodd-Frank Act. As explained in its
final rule and interpretive guidance, the Council may also consider
a request from a nonbank financial company for a reevaluation before the next required annual reevaluation in the case of an extraordinary change that materially decreases the threat a nonbank
financial company could pose to U.S. financial stability.
As part of the annual reevaluation process, each company is provided an opportunity to meet with Council staff to discuss the scope
and process for the review and to present information regarding
any change that may be relevant to the threat the company could
pose to U.S. financial stability, including a company restructuring,
regulatory developments, market changes, or other factors. lf a
company requests that the Council rescind the determination, the
Council has noted that it intends to vote on whether to rescind the
determination and provide the company, its primary financial regulatory agency, and the primary financial regulatory agency of its
significant subsidiaries with a notice explaining the primary basis
for any decision not to rescind the designation. The notice will address the material factors raised by the company during the annual
reevaluation. In addition, the FSOC will provide each designated
nonbank financial company an opportunity for an oral hearing before the Council once every 5 years.
3 12

CFR part 1310, app. A.
‘‘Supplemental Procedures Relating to Nonbank Financial Company Determinations’’,
Feb. 4, 2015.
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As discussed below, using the foregoing process, the Council has
recently voted to rescind its determination concerning GE Capital.
Q.3. Would you consider making a clear exit or off-ramp for designated firms?
A.3. Because the impact of a firm’s material distress or activities
on financial stability is firm specific, the Council conducts its analysis on a company-by-company basis in order to take into account
the potential risks and mitigating factors that are unique to each
company. At the time the Council determines that a nonbank financial company should be supervised by the Board and subject to
prudential standards, the nonbank financial company is given a detailed basis for the determination. A company can use that information, as well as other information relating to the factors the
Council is required to consider under the Dodd-Frank Act, to guide
its efforts to reduce its systemic footprint.
As you may be aware, on June 28, 2016, the Council voted to rescind the determination that GE Capital should be subject to supervision by the Board and prudential standards. The Council determined that GE Capital had fundamentally changed its business
and become a much less significant participant in financial markets and the U.S. economy through a series of divestitures, a transformation of its funding model, and a corporate reorganization. GE
Capital had decreased its total assets by over 50 percent, shifted
away from short-term funding, and reduced its interconnectedness
with large financial institutions. The Council’s decision to rescind
its final determination was based on extensive quantitative and
qualitative analyses regarding GE Capital. Upon review of the statutory factors and all the facts of record, the Council determined
that GE Capital no longer met the standards for determination
under section 113 of the Dodd-Frank Act and rescinded its determination that GE Capital should be supervised by the Board and
subject to prudential standards.
Q.4. The Federal Reserve plays a major role on the Financial Stability Board and chairs the supervisory and regulatory cooperation
committee. The Federal Reserve is uniquely involved in setting
international regulatory and supervisory policies that ultimately
must be implemented by U.S. regulators.
Would you support having transcripts made at international
groups the Federal Reserve is a member of so the American public
knows what is being advocated for and discussed?
A.4. The Federal Reserve is committed to transparency in the
international groups of which it is a part. The Financial Stability
Board (FSB) monitors and assesses vulnerabilities affecting the
global financial system and recommends actions needed to address
them. In addition, it monitors and advises on market and systemic
developments, and their implications for regulatory policy. Before
the FSB recommends a particular policy action, the FSB typically
goes through a public notice-and-comment process similar to that
which would accompany rulemaking in the United States. In addition, it is important to note that none of the policy actions recommended by the FSB would take effect in the U.S. without being
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With respect to the possibility of public transcripts of meetings
of international groups, there are competing factors that must be
considered. The benefits of increased transparency must be
weighed against concerns about exposing confidential or sensitive
information about firms and markets and concerns about the impact on discussion within the international group, which could
make the group less effective at achieving its stated goals.
Q.5. Would you be willing to brief Members of the Senate Banking,
Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee on what is happening in
international discussions prior to any new international rules being
proposed?
A.5. My staff and I are always available to brief Members of the
Committee on the status of international regulatory policy discussions.
Q.6. Does the Financial Stability Board influence the decisions that
the Federal Stability Oversight Council makes regarding Systemically Important Financial Institution designations?
A.6. The U.S. Financial Stability Oversight Council (FSOC) determines whether to designate nonbank financial firms as systemically important based on the factors identified in the Dodd-Frank
Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (Dodd-Frank
Act), as interpreted by the FSOC through rulemaking. Whether an
entity has been designated by the FSB is not a consideration.
Q.7. Recently the living wills submitted by several banks were rejected by the Federal Reserve and the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation (FDIC). The Federal Reserve and the FDIC came to
different conclusions regarding two firms.
How is the criteria used by the Federal Reserve when evaluating
living wills different than the FDIC’s criteria which is creating
these split decisions?
Do you believe providing more clear criteria of what you expect
to see or fix in living wills would help prevent split decisions between the Federal Reserve and FDIC?
A.7. In April 2016, the Federal Reserve and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (together, the Agencies) published a joint assessment framework and an explanation of the determinations they
had made on the firms’ 2015 resolution plans. 5 Specifically, the
Agencies evaluated the preferred strategy presented by each firm,
the executability of the firm’s resolution plan, and whether the firm
had made demonstrable progress to improve its resolvability. In assessing each of the 2015 resolution plans, the Agencies focused on
seven key elements: capital, liquidity, governance mechanisms,
operational capabilities, legal entity rationalization, derivatives and
trading activities, and responsiveness. The Agencies also issued
joint guidance for the next full resolution plans that are due in
July 2017. 6
Under Section 165(d) of the Dodd-Frank Act, the Agencies are required to make independent findings. Nonetheless, the Agencies
closely coordinate to ensure consistency of treatment in the review
process and reconcile factual findings and identified issues. The
5 See
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Agencies reached consensus and agreement repeatedly throughout
the process, including on the weaknesses identified at particular
firms and guidance being issued for the next resolution plans. In
the instances where the agencies differed, they have found agreement on facts and remediations.
Q.8. Do you believe that the Federal Reserve should study the
costs and benefits of existing and recent financial regulations before layering on new regulations?
Do you have concerns about the cumulative impact that all these
regulations are having on average Americans access to credit or
main street businesses?
A.8. The Federal Reserve conducts a variety of economic analyses
and assessments to support the rulemaking process, and regularly
publishes these analyses either as part of the proposed or final rule
itself or as a separate white paper accompanying the rule. In such
cases, the impact analyses naturally focus on the impact of the specific regulation in question, but the Federal Reserve also gives
careful consideration to the potential positive and negative interactions among rules.
More broadly, the Federal Reserve engages in a regular quantitative impact assessment and monitoring program that is coordinated with other global regulators through the Basel Committee on
Banking Supervision (BCBS). This program, the results of which
are made public, is designed to assess the overall impact of the new
postcrisis bank capital and liquidity requirements on the global
banking system. The Federal Reserve has been participating in this
impact assessment program since 2012, and it continues to inform
the Federal Reserve’s understanding of the cost and benefits of
bank capital and liquidity regulation.
The Federal Reserve has also participated in several other global
efforts to assess the costs and benefits of postcrisis financial regulatory reforms through its participation in the FSB and the BCBS.
The BCBS published a study in 2010 that demonstrated the substantial net economic benefits of stronger bank capital and liquidity
requirements. The FSB published an updated study in 2015 that
demonstrated the substantial additional net economic benefits of
imposing total loss absorbing capacity requirements on the most
systemic global banks.
The Federal Reserve carefully considers the overall costs and
benefits of all of the regulations it promulgates. The overarching
goal of the Federal Reserve’s regulatory program is to enhance
bank safety and soundness and financial stability at the least cost
to economic growth and credit availability. The Federal Reserve is
committed to conducting an ongoing review to understand how
postcrisis reform is influencing financial stability and the economy.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR SASSE
FROM JANET L. YELLEN

Q.1. I’d like to continue our discussion of the concentration of job
creation and economic growth in higher-skilled fields. You said in
recent correspondence that unemployment rates for ‘‘lower skilled
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twice as high as those for highly skilled workers such as managers
and professions.
As I said in our correspondence, this disparity is important because our economy faces a crisis in the nature of work. If we think
about the history of economics, we had the ‘‘old economy,’’ which
evolved from hunter gatherers, to settled farmers and big tool manufacturing economies. Now we’re entering into a ‘‘new economy,’’
which exists within a global economy and a fast, technology-based,
information age.
Could you elaborate on the causes of this uneven growth? In our
correspondence, you briefly mentioned the ‘‘business cycle and transitory-specific factors,’’ including the housing market collapse and
the decline in oil prices.
A.1. In addition to the cyclical and transitory factors, it is the case
that these disparities in unemployment rates and the shift in employment shares that I cited in my letter of May 25, 2016, are related to longer term developments transforming our economy such
as globalization and technical change, which I mentioned in my
February 11, 2016, testimony and which you describe as being related to our economy’s transition from an ‘‘old economy’’ based on
manufacturing to a new economy.
Q.2. As I understand it, we have moved from having the average
duration at a firm for a worker being 26 years in the late 70s, to
being around 3.8 years now, and dropping. How is this turnover affecting our economy? For example, how many workers must now
change fields altogether in order to find a new job?
A.2. Based on data from U.S. Census Bureau and work by Farber,
it appears that firm tenure has actually not changed much because
an increase in the age of the population (older people have longer
tenure) and greater attachment to the labor market among women
has offset a decline in tenure among men. But tenure has gone
down for men, especially those over 50. 1 I have not seen statistics
on how many workers must change fields in order to find a new
job and whether that has changed over time. The U.S. labor market is very fluid, and a regular feature is that individuals change
occupations and industries fairly frequently—some studies have estimated that about 20 percent of workers change industry or occupation each year. 2 However, it seems likely that many of these
transitions are voluntary.
Q.3. Is this increasing job turnover behind some of the disparity in
job creation between highly skilled workers and lower skilled workers?
A.3. It is the case that lower skilled workers experience higher
turnover and have higher unemployment rates than highly skilled
workers. In part this may reflect the fact that lower skilled workers
gain fewer firm-specific skills on the job, or the skills they gain are
easily taught, and thus it is less costly for firms to replace them.
1 Farber, Henry S. ‘‘Employment Security: The Decline in Worker-Firm Attachment in the
United States’’, CEPS Working Paper No. 172, January 2008.
2 Whether this share has been rising is not clear. See, for example, Moscarini, Giuseppe, and
Kaj Thomsson, ‘‘Occupational and Job Mobility in the U.S.’’, Scandinavian Journal of Economics
109(4), 807–836, 2007; and Kambourov, Gueorgui, and Iourii Manovskii, ‘‘Rising Occupational
and Industry Mobility in the United States: 1968–1997’’, International Economic Review 49(1),
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Q.4. What portion of currently unemployed, underemployed, and
discouraged workers will have to retool their skillset to enter a new
sector of the economy to become fully employed?
A.4. It is very difficult to say what proportion of the unemployed
are structurally unemployed, in the sense that they lack the skills
to perform the available jobs, and I have not seen the specific estimates you are asking for. One could estimate an upper bound limit
of about 8 million workers who are either unemployed or discouraged. 3 If we assume that all discouraged workers and all long-term
unemployed workers (unemployed more than 27 weeks) are structurally unemployed, then the portion of unemployed and discouraged workers who are structurally unemployed and therefore at
risk of having to retool would be closer to 30 percent. However, this
latter number is certainly an overstatement. Some discouraged
workers stop searching due to what they perceive as overall weak
demand or other factors, not lack of skills, and not all workers who
are unemployed more than 27 weeks must retool to find jobs. Of
course this number does not include workers who choose to reskill
after only a short period of unemployment or who improve or
change their skillset while working, because they see more opportunity in another field.
Q.5. Will this percentage of unemployed, underemployed, and discouraged workers that must enter a new sector increase in the future?
A.5. It is difficult to say with certainty. The answer to this question
depends on many factors including whether future technical change
and globalization are more or less disruptive to labor markets as
have been the changes we have undergone in recent decades.
Q.6. What is the average age of an unemployed or underemployed
worker that decides to leave the workforce altogether instead of
seeking to retool their skillset and enter a new sector?
A.6. Consider again the data on discouraged workers. In 2015,
about half of discouraged workers were in the 25 to 54 age group,
although as noted previously, not all discouraged workers leave the
labor force because they think they do not have the right skills. 4
Another way to answer this question is to look at data from the
Bureau of Labor Statistics on displaced workers. 5 Of all workers
who were displaced from a job in 2014, those who were 65 and
older were the most likely to leave the labor force—over half did.
About one-fifth of workers ages 55 to 64 left the labor force as did
12 percent of workers ages 25 to 54. However, because most displaced workers fall into this latter age category, about half of the
workers who left the labor force after a displacement were between
the ages of 24 and 54.
3 Discouraged workers, as defined by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, are workers who separated from a job in the past year and did some job search but stopped searching because they
think there is no work available for them.
4 Bureau of Labor Statistics, Household Data, Annual Averages, Table 35. http://
www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat35.pdf.
5 Displaced workers are defined as ‘‘persons 20 years of age and older who lost or left jobs
because their plant or company closed or moved, there was insufficient work for them to do,
or their position or shift was abolished.’’ ‘‘Worker Displacement: 2011–2013’’, News Release,
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Q.7. What risk, if any, does the increasing automation of routine
work tasks pose to the economy over the long-term?
A.7. Typically automation has boosted productivity growth. Moreover, history suggests that while automation does reduce employment in the affected occupations, demand and workers shift to new
occupations, some of which may not even exist today. However,
such processes can take a long time to play out, and there is some
debate today among economists and others who think about the
role of automation in the workplace as to whether the technical
change underway now may upend this historical pattern, resulting
in greater displacement of workers from the labor market than has
historically been the case. Beyond that, automation could affect the
distribution of income and wealth in the economy, which could
have spillovers to other parts of the economy.
Q.8. How long will it take for these risks to come to significant fruition?
A.8. It is unclear how automation will evolve and its impact on the
economy going forward is highly unclear. As such, we cannot speculate as to the timing of any particular outcomes.
Q.9. What sectors of the economy will benefit the most from automation?
A.9. The jobs that are most susceptible to automation are those
that involve routine tasks, either physical or cognitive. The sectors
where automation has proceeded the furthest include manufacturing, and where automation substitutes for routine physical labor
and some services, where automation can substitute for routine
cognitive skills (such as banking—for example, ATMs). To the extent that automation makes it less expensive to perform these
tasks, end users of those products (whether they be businesses that
use them as inputs or consumers) will benefit.
Q.10. What sectors of the economy will benefit the least from automation?
A.10. With our current technology, tasks that require nonroutine
skills, either physical or cognitive, are the least susceptible to automation. This includes a wide range of occupations that include both
lower skilled work, such as laborers and personal care providers,
to higher skilled work such as software developers and managers.
Sectors of the economy and consumers that rely on these types of
work are less likely to see cost savings. However, as technology
changes, it may be that more and more occupations are susceptible
in part to automation. Already we have seen that technology has
improved productivity in these occupations even if the jobs themselves are not automated (for instance, improved information technology does not completely substitute for doctors, but it can provide
them access to better information, which improves outcomes).
Q.11. I’d like to ask about the recent Brexit.
What economic and political factors are the Federal Reserve consulting in evaluating the national and international economic risk
associated with the Brexit?
How would the economically worst-case Brexit scenario unfold?
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Will the value of the dollar will significantly appreciate over the
long-term, including as compared to the pound sterling, due to the
Brexit?
If so, what will the impact of such appreciation be on U.S. exports?
What are the most economically significant legal questions that
the U.K. and the EU must resolve, in order to fully evaluate the
practical economic consequences of the Brexit?
A.11. The United Kingdom (U.K.) vote to leave the European
Union (EU) has increased uncertainty about the future trading relationship between the U.K. and the EU. That increased uncertainty appears to be weighing on U.K. investment and hiring decisions, and early indicators following the June 23 referendum point
to a slowdown in U.K. economic growth. The broader effect on the
global economy, however, is likely to be limited, as many postvote
declines in global asset prices have since been reversed. For instance, U.S. stock price indexes are now higher than before the referendum.
The economic impact of the referendum result on the U.K., the
rest of Europe, and the global economy is likely to depend on how
uncertainty is resolved over time, which in turn will depend on the
progress of negotiations between U.K. and EU authorities over
their future trading relationship. Given the importance of London
as a global financial center, some of the most important legal questions involve the trading of financial services between the U.K. and
the EU.
Since the June 23 referendum, the dollar has appreciated significantly against the British pound, but the dollar is only modestly
stronger on net against a broad basket of foreign currencies, and
thus the impact on the demand for U.S. exports is likely to be modest.
Q.12. I’d like to ask about the Federal Reserve Board’s joint proposed rule on executive compensation under section 956 of DoddFrank.
As you know, these rules would apply to those insurance companies that own thrifts. Does the Federal Reserve plan on treating insurance companies different than banks in the application of this
rule, as it has with capital standards?
What has the Federal Reserve done or will do to ensure that
these rules are not bankcentric and are instead tailored to the insurance industry?
A.12. Pursuant to section 956 of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (Dodd-Frank Act), the Agencies’ 6 joint notice of proposed rulemaking 7 covers all depository institution holding companies, including all savings and loan holding
companies. 8 As described in the preamble, the proposed rule does
6 Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC); Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System; Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC); Federal Housing Finance Agency
(FHFA); National Credit Union Administration (NCUA); and U.S. Securities and Exchange
Commission (SEC).
7 81 FR 37670 (July 10, 2016).
8 Section 956 of the Dodd-Frank Act defines ‘‘covered financial institution’’ to include any of
the following types of institutions that have $1 billion or more in assets: (A) a depository institution or depository institution holding company, as such terms are defined in section 3 of the
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not establish a rigid, one-size-fits-all approach. Rather, the Agencies have tailored the requirements of the proposed rule to the size
and complexity of covered institutions. In addition, the proposed
rule would allow firms to tailor the incentive based compensation
arrangements to the nature of a particular institution’s business
and the risks, as long as those incentive-based compensation arrangements appropriately balance risk and reward. The methods
by which such balance is achieved would be permitted to differ by
institution and across business lines and operating units. The preamble invited comment on the impact of the proposed rule on all
covered institutions. The Agencies have included numerous questions, touching all aspects of the proposed rule, including the tailoring of institutions by asset size and the definitions of significant
risk-takers. We will consider your comments and all comments we
receive in the final rulemaking process.
Q.13. Has or will the Federal Reserve conduct specific analysis of
insurance executive compensation practices and risks and how the
rule will impact insurance companies? If so, please provide a copy
of the analysis.
A.13. The Federal Reserve Board has not conducted specific analysis of insurance executive compensation practice. However, the
Agencies have encouraged institutions to provide feedback on the
potential impact of the proposed rule on covered institutions
throughout the comment period process, and through this notice
and comment process help us analyze specifically insurance compensation practice. 9 In addition, the preamble solicits input on the
impact of the rule on all covered financial institutions through a
number of questions posed in this area. For instance, question 2.8
seeks commenters’ views on situations where it might be appropriate and why to modify the requirements of the proposed rule
where there are multiple covered institution subsidiaries within a
single parent organization based upon the relative size, complexity,
risk profile, or business model, and use of incentive-based compensation of the covered institution subsidiaries within the consolidated organization. In a similar vein, question 2.12 asks whether
the determination of average total consolidated assets should be
further tailored for certain types of investment advisers, such as
charitable advisers, non-U.S.-domiciled advisers, or insurance companies and, if so, why and in what manner.
Q.14. As you know, the rule provides that a firm’s ‘‘significant risktakers’’ are subject to the compensation rule. Some have expressed
concern that determining whether an employee is a ‘‘significant
risk-taker’’—specifically calculating whether an employee is among
the top 5 percent of compensated employees—could be costly to implement, given technical difficulties in accurately discerning salary
Federal Deposit Insurance Act (FDIA) (12 U.S.C. 1813); (B) a broker-dealer registered under section 15 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 780); (C) a credit union, as described
in section 19(b)(1)(A)(iv) of the Federal Reserve Act; (D) an investment adviser, as such term
is defined in section 202(a)(11) of the Investment Advisers Act of 1940 (15 U.S.C. 80b-2(a)(11));
(E) the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae); (F) the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac); and (G) any other financial institution that the appropriate
Federal regulators, jointly, by rule, determine should be treated as a covered financial institution for these purposes.
9 See
http://www.federalreserve.gov/apps/foia/ViewComments.aspx?doclid=R-1536&
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levels across a firm. Could there be merit in implementing a salary
threshold test instead, which would instead define (in part) ‘‘significant risk-takers’’ as any employee earning more than a particular
salary threshold?
A.14. While drafting the proposal, the Agencies were conscious of
potential burden on covered institutions and have attempted to appropriately reduce burden throughout the proposal. We are evaluating the merit of a proposal such as salary thresholds. To that
end, the Agencies have posed specific questions 10 on the alternative of using a dollar threshold test under which the designation
of significant risk-takers would be based in part on whether a covered person receives annual base salary and incentive-based compensation in excess of a specific dollar threshold.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR ROUNDS
FROM JANET L. YELLEN

Q.1. The Federal Reserve (along with the Department of the Treasury and the Security and Exchange Commission) participates at
the Financial Stability Board (FSB), but there is little to no transparency into the Fed’s actions at the FSB. What steps can the Fed
take to increase transparency into its activities at the FSB?
A.1. Like the U.S. Treasury Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Federal Reserve is a member of the Financial Stability Board (FSB). The FSB monitors and assesses
vulnerabilities affecting the global financial system and recommends actions needed to address them. In addition, it monitors
and advises on market and systemic developments, and their implications for regulatory policy. Before the FSB recommends a particular policy action, the FSB typically goes through a public notice
and comment process similar to that which would accompany rulemaking in the United States. In addition, it is important to note
that none of the policy actions recommended by the FSB would
take effect in the U.S. without being adopted by U.S. authorities
through a public notice and comment process. Thus, the Federal
Reserve would not implement any FSB standards in the U.S. without going through the same process as we do for our other
rulemakings.
Q.2. As you know, the FSB is an international body charged with
designating global systemically important nonbank financial companies. To date, the three American insurers that the FSB designated have all been designated by the Financial Stability Oversight Council (FSOC).
Given that the FSB is not subject to the requirements of the
Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, and
several members of FSOC serve on the FSB and have been involved in the separate designation process for global systemically
important financial institutions (SIFI), how much does FSOC rely
on or consider the FSB’s designations in conducting its own assessment of SIFI prospects?
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A.2. The U.S. Financial Stability Oversight Council (FSOC) determines whether to designate nonbank financial firms as systemically important based on the factors identified in the Dodd-Frank
Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, as interpreted by
the FSOC through rulemaking. Whether an entity has been designated by the FSB is not a consideration.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF
SENATOR MENENDEZ FROM JANET L. YELLEN

Q.1. After years of rapid and consistent economic growth due to
large-scale market reforms beginning in the late 1970s, the Chinese economy has slowed significantly in recent years. The slowdown has led the Chinese government to fall back on fiscal and
monetary stimulus measures to buoy its faltering economy. And
while these efforts have had varying levels of success, further intervention has served to raise core concerns about the Chinese government’s ability and willingness to open up its economy to greater
competition and its financial system to cross-border capital flows—
elements most economists agree are necessary to facilitate sustained economic health in China.
Taking into account China’s surging debt levels resulting from an
aggressive lending campaign by financial institutions and banks,
imbalanced and slowing economic growth, and an unpredictable regime, can you speak to what impact China’s continuing economic
decline will have on the U.S. economy?
A.1. Chinese economic growth has been on a general downward
trend over the past several years, but we would not characterize
the Chinese economy as being in decline. It is still growing at a sizable pace and, to some degree, the slowing that has occurred is a
result of several structural factors—slower labor force growth, reduced investment as the economy rebalances toward consumption,
and a moderation in growth typical of maturing economies. Even
with growth declining it should be noted that China’s contribution
to global growth remains strong. This contribution depends on both
China’s growth rate and its weight in the world economy—since
China still grows faster than many other economies, its share in
the global economy has been rising. Also, if China manages to rebalance its economy successfully, its economic growth will be more
sustainable even if it is lower, and it will increasingly import more
consumption-type goods, thus becoming more of an independent engine of global growth as it draws more imports from the rest of the
world, including from the United States (U.S.).
But you are right to note that there is a risk that Chinese
growth could slow more sharply given the run-up in corporate debt,
adjustments going on in industries with excess capacity, and some
uncertainty about the economic policies being followed. We do not
view this to be the most likely scenario, as the authorities still
have room to provide more policy stimulus were the economy to
slow sharply and also have ample resources to stave off a crisis if
necessary. But unexpected developments can occur, and, should the
Chinese economy slow much more abruptly and severely, there
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links to China (China accounted for nearly 8 percent of U.S. goods
exports in 2015), its indirect links to China through trade with
other countries affected by China’s slowing, and possibly by reverberations to global financial markets.
Q.2. To what extent has this been a factor in monetary policy decisions?
A.2. Our monetary policy is motivated by the dual mandate set for
us by the U.S. Congress, which calls for achieving stable prices and
maximum sustainable employment. In this globally interconnected
world, economic and financial developments in the U.S. have a significant impact on the rest of the world and, by the same token,
developments in the rest of the world have significant effects on
our own economy. We, therefore, closely monitor developments
abroad, including importantly those in China, for their implications
for the outlook and risks to the U.S. economy and adjust our policies accordingly in order to achieve our dual mandate.
Q.3. From 2010 to 2015, labor productivity rose just 0.6 percent per
year on average, in comparison to an average of nearly 2 percent
growth in the previous 6 years. And perhaps just as concerning,
productivity fell at a 0.6 percent annual rate in the first quarter
of this year. However you slice it, all signs point to the fact that
U.S. worker productivity is no longer on the same trajectory that
it had been on in the past.
In your speech on June 6, you said that productivity growth has
been ‘‘unusually weak in recent years.’’ This has undoubtedly hampered wage growth and limited economic expansion. As many have
acknowledged, business investment, research and development,
and business creation have all been slow to recover from the recession.
In your opinion, what are the major factors accounting for this
slowdown?
A.3. Part of the weakness in labor productivity growth seen in recent years likely reflects the enduring effects of the Great Recession. For example, there is some evidence that the recession led to
a long-lasting reduction in business investment, research, and development spending, and new business formation, and that these
factors have lowered productivity growth. 1 That said, productivity
growth began to slow even before the Great Recession, and some
research has suggested that the earlier deceleration was the result
of the economic effects of the 1990s IT revolution having largely
run their course by the mid-2000s.2 3
Q.4. Earlier this month, you also said that you are cautiously optimistic about productivity growth. What indications do you have
that we will begin to see an upswing in productivity?
1 Reifschneider, Dave, William Wascher, and David Wilcox (2015), ‘‘Aggregate Supply in the
United States: Recent Developments and Implications for the Conduct of Monetary Policy’’, IMF
Economic Review, vol. 63, no. 1, pp.71–109.
2 Fernald, John G. (2014), ‘‘Productivity and Potential Output Before, During, and After the
Great Recession’’, NBER Macroeconomics Annual 29(1), pp.1–51.
3 It has also been argued that mismeasurement of real output could have contributed to the
weakness in measured productivity growth. However, recent research by Byrne, Fernald, and
Reinsdorf (2016) casts doubt on the ability of this hypothesis to explain the recent slowdown.
Byrne, David M., J. Fernald, and Marshall Reinsdorf (2016), ‘‘Does the United States Have a
Productivity Slowdown or a Measurement Problem?’’ Brookings Papers on Economic Activity,
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A.4. Up to this point, we have not yet seen clear indications of a
pickup in productivity growth in the economic data. However, some
of the factors that have dragged down productivity growth in recent
years—especially factors related to the last recession—are likely to
diminish going forward. For example, we expect that continued
gains in economic activity will lead to a faster pace of investment
growth and more spending on research and development, contributing to a stronger pace of productivity growth in coming years.
Moreover, we see no obvious slowdown in the pace, or the potential
benefits, of innovation in America—for example, stunning gains
continue to be made in computing power, data storage, robotics, 3D
printing, and cloud computing, to name just a few areas of technological progress. Such innovations may bear fruit more readily in
a stronger economy.
Q.5. There is widespread agreement that we face a considerable
shortfall of public investment in transportation, education,
broadband, and research and development. With interest rates still
low, and gains to be made in the labor market, isn’t now the time
to make sustained public investments that would lead to job creation, productivity gains, and broad-based economic growth?
A.5. I agree with the view that the American people would be well
served by investments—both public and private—that support
longer-run growth in productivity. Well-designed investments in
the areas you mention—transportation, education, broadband, and
research and development—have the potential to lead to stronger
productivity gains in the future. Furthermore, I would add that
any such investments are more likely to be effective if they are accompanied by Government policies that encourage entrepreneurship and innovation, and that foster the flexible allocation of labor
and capital to their most productive uses.
Q.6. Chair Yellen, in your recent speech on June 6, you laid out
the grim reality that many African Americans and Latinos face in
our job market. Although conditions have improved, we still see
that compared to the overall unemployment rate, minorities still
face a much tougher job market.
In January, the unemployment rate for African American’s with
Associate’s Degrees finally fell equal to the unemployment rate for
white adults who did not complete high school.
If we’re nearing full employment, shouldn’t we expect the unemployment rates of African Americans with Associate’s Degrees to be
much closer to the unemployment rate of whites with Associate’s
Degrees and not those who’ve dropped out of high school?
A.6. Unemployment rates have long been persistently higher for
both African Americans and Hispanics, on average, than for whites.
And, those differentials are not purely the result of whites having
more education. Unemployment rates are lower for those with more
education, but for any given level of educational attainment, African Americans in particular tend to experience higher unemployment than whites. One illustration of this fact, as you note, is that
the unemployment rate for African Americans who have an associate degree is comparable to the unemployment rate for whites
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Despite overall improvements in the U.S. economy in recent
years, there are still significant disparities in labor market outcomes and a continuation in the trend toward widening wealth and
income inequality. These trends are troubling. In carrying out its
mandate, the Federal Reserve pays close attention to issues of economic inclusion. We follow unemployment rates by race and ethnicity and examine whether particular groups are discouraged from
participating in the labor force. More broadly, through our data collection efforts, such as the Survey of Consumer Finances and the
Survey of Household Economics and Decision Making, the Federal
Reserve has gathered and disseminated information that is critical
for understanding the economic situation of disadvantaged groups.
Q.7. Former Minneapolis Fed President Narayana Kocherlakota
said earlier this year, ‘‘there is one key source of economic difference in American life that is likely underemphasized in FOMC
deliberations: race.’’ After a search of transcripts of FOMC meetings from 2010, when African American unemployment stood at
15.5 percent or higher, to the most recent meetings, Kocherlakota
found that there was not a single reference in the meetings to labor
market conditions among African Americans.
It is absolutely critical that the leadership of the Federal Reserve
reflect the composition of our diverse Nation. Monetary policy is inextricably linked with the experiences of hardworking families,
white, African American, Latino, and Asian, across the Nation, and
leadership positions at the Federal Reserve should be held by those
that reflect the interests of all of our communities.
Recently, I along with Sens. Warren and Merkley, and many
other members of Congress sent letter urging you to improve representation at the regional Banks’ boards of directors. The Federal
Reserve Act requires that the presidents and Boards of Directors
at the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks ‘‘represent the public.’’
Yet 83 percent of Federal Reserve Board members are white, and
92 percent of regional Bank presidents are white, and not a single
president is either African American or Latino. When you were
here in February, you testified that the Board of Governors was
constantly attentive to the issue of diversity on the boards, and
that 45 percent of directors are either women or minorities. Do you
believe that this is sufficient? Does the Board of Governors have a
plan for increasing the representation of diverse candidates?
A.7. As I have stated previously, I am personally committed and
the Federal Reserve as an organization is committed to achieving
diversity within our workforce and within our leadership at all levels. We have made progress, but there is more work to be done. Diversity is an extremely important goal and I will do everything I
can to further it.
It is important to have a diversified group of policy makers who
can bring different perspectives. The Federal Reserve recognizes
the value of sustaining a diverse workforce at all levels of the organization. An interdisciplinary effort that I discussed at my June 21
hearing before the Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
Committee is focusing on all of our diversity initiatives, both in
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throughout the Federal Reserve System, as well as our efforts to
promote diversity in economic inclusion.
Our efforts to achieve our objectives for more diversified leadership include both shorter-term and longer-term goals. In the shortterm, we are committed to broad, open, transparent, and proactive
search processes. We are actively soliciting and then considering
input from a wide range of sources in our efforts to identify qualified candidates who expand on one or more dimensions of the diversity of our senior leadership. We have, for example, benefited
from input with respect to Reserve Bank directors from several
community groups. We have also incorporated into our search process for our most senior executives outreach via social media, intended to both better explain the nature of the positions to a broader audience and invite suggestions regarding suitable candidates.
Building on those efforts, we have also initiated a longer-term
program of seeking to identify and foster promising candidates
from a variety of backgrounds and with a variety of experiences for
a range of roles while at a stage in their careers when they may
not yet fully be prepared to assume the responsibilities of our most
senior leadership. We intend to leverage the full range of the System’s existing outreach programs, including in the areas of economic education, community outreach, and academic partnership.
Q.8. Along with other financial agencies, the Federal Reserve is
mandated to assess and increase its contracting and procurement
with minority-owned and women-owned businesses. This practice,
known as supplier diversity, is a powerful form of economic development. Contracts create economic ripples throughout communities
and create quality jobs, something desperately needed in communities of color. In 2015, the Board of Governors spent $214 million
on goods and services, but less than 9 percent of that money went
to minority-owned businesses. That’s less than half of what the average financial agency spends.
What are the Fed’s plan to rectify this disparity?
A.8. As reported in the Board’s Report to the Congress on the Office of Minority and Women Inclusion for calendar-year 2015, the
Board awarded contracts for goods and services (including contracts for the Board’s Office of Inspector General as well as the
Board’s currency program) in the amount of $214,867,580, of which
11.23 percent went to minority-owned businesses. This represents
the total obligated amount of the contracts rather than the ‘‘spend’’
or actual amounts paid to contractors. The amount of funds that
the Board paid out to contractors for goods and services during
2015 was $154,264,257, of which 8.32 percent went to minorityowned businesses. Both the amounts contracted and the amounts
paid represented a significant increase from the prior year.
The Board has an active supplier diversity program that combines outreach and training for vendors with internal programs
aimed at educating our staff about the importance of diversity and
how to increase diverse vendor participation in the Board’s procurement activities.
To enhance its supplier diversity program, Board Procurement
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build additional strategies to increase contracts awarded to minority vendors. To help these companies compete, the Board will consider changes in the design of its solicitations that may facilitate
or encourage participation by these companies. For example,
lengthening delivery schedules or the time period for the submission of offers or bids or dividing proposed acquisitions to permit offers in quantities Jess than the total requirement could create
greater opportunities for minority-owned business to compete.
In looking for opportunities to further increase its spend with
small and disadvantaged businesses, the Procurement staff is reviewing its approach to setting aside an acquisition or a class of acquisitions for covered companies. A ‘‘set-aside’’ is a preference
where the procurement is limited to participation by small and disadvantaged businesses only. An award will be made only if the proposal is fair and reasonable. We will continue to look for additional
opportunities to use this program.
In 2017, the Board plans to host a ‘‘vendor outreach fair.’’ The
event is an opportunity for us to share upcoming procurement opportunities with a wide range of potential suppliers, including minority-owned firms. Because staff from across the organization participate, vendors have an opportunity to get to know the individuals overseeing contractual work, and staff have an opportunity to
learn about vendors’ products and capabilities. The outreach fair
will also include training sessions designed to better position prospective vendors to compete for procurement opportunities. Our
previous outreach event held in June 2015 attracted over 400 individuals representing 300 companies.
The Board will continue to utilize national and local organizations advocating for minority companies as a method to connect directly with qualified minority-owned companies. Memberships in
these types of organizations will provide direct access to these suppliers who demonstrate the ability to provide high-quality goods
and services. Among these organizations are the National Minority
Supplier Development Council, U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Greater Washington Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, and
the National Black Chamber of Commerce. The outreach events
hosted by these organizations provide a platform for the Board’s
staff to discuss the procurement process with potential vendors
while also providing information on future procurement opportunities to potential vendors. The Board is aware of the many challenges facing minority firms, and continued collaboration with advocacy groups representing these firms will help the Board better
understand the challenges these businesses face and help the firms
better navigate the Board’s acquisition process.
Lastly, to increase Board staffs awareness and understanding of
the requirements of section 342 of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, the Board’s Procurement office
will continue to host a series of training sessions and forums to
educate staff—agency wide—on the importance of supplier diversity. The Procurement office has also established a reporting tool
to monitor the success of the supplier diversity program. The tool,
which is available to all Board divisions, provides dashboards,
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sions to track and monitor their diversity spend and to make improvements to help achieve desired results.
Q.9. Over the years, the Federal Reserve has struggled to increase
the diversity of its senior leadership. Multiple entities, including
the Government Accountability Office, have repeatedly cited leadership commitment as a driver to change. Agency heads and top officials at the CFPB, FDIC, SEC, and NCUA actively participate in
Diversity Councils.
With your unique insights as a woman, how are you specifically
working to drive diversity at the Fed? Will the Federal Reserve
commit to forming a Diversity Council led by a Governor?
A.9. I am personally committed and the Federal Reserve as an organization is committed to achieving diversity within our workforce
and within our leadership. The Federal Reserve recognizes the
value of sustaining a diverse workforce at all levels of the organization. When I joined the Board staff, I was one of relatively few
women economists. Since then, there have been significant gains in
diversity at the Board and throughout the Federal Reserve System
(System). Currently, minorities represent 18 percent and women 37
percent of senior leadership at the Board. Throughout the System,
minorities make up 18 percent of officer-level staff, which is an increase of 22 percent over the past 4 years. Furthermore, among directors on Reserve Bank and Branch boards, minority representation stands at about 24 percent, and representation of women is approximately 30 percent. I recognize there is still work to be done
and workforce diversity remains a strategic priority for the Federal
Reserve.
The selection and reappointment of Federal Reserve Bank presidents is a process set forth by the Federal Reserve Act, including
the specific responsibilities of the Reserve Bank’s board of directors
and the Board of Governors. Within this statutory framework, the
System has operationalized the process to be expansive and
proactive in the identification of candidates, including persons who
may not routinely have contact with the Federal Reserve, the economics profession, or the financial services sector.
I am committed to seeing us make further progress and to making sure that we are taking all of the steps that we possibly can
to promote diversity and economic inclusion. To further support
this commitment, as mentioned previously, I recently launched and
lead an interdisciplinary effort within the Federal Reserve that is
focused on all of our diversity initiatives, both in terms of hiring
at the Board and throughout the Federal Reserve System, and our
efforts to promote diversity and economic inclusion. My colleagues
and I meet quarterly with this group to discuss initiatives and
progress.
The Federal Reserve is committed to achieving further progress,
and to better understanding the challenges to improving diversity,
as well as promoting diversity of ideas and backgrounds. I believe
that diversity makes the Federal Reserve more effective in carrying
out its mission.
Q.10. I appreciate the Federal Reserve’s willingness to engage and
recognize that this issue doesn’t exist at the agency alone—it’s pervasive throughout the entire financial sector. The Federal Reserve

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should use its leadership to promote this same transparency among
its regulated entities. Your Office of Minority and Women Inclusion
made the submission of diversity data voluntary.
How will you use your position to increase diversity in the private sector?
A.10. The Federal Reserve, in conjunction with the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation and the Office of the Comptroller of the
Currency, issued a joint press release on August 2, 2016, providing
information on how regulated institutions may begin to submit selfassessments of their diversity policies and practices to their primary Federal financial regulator per the approval granted by the
Office of Management and Budget on July 13, 2016, to collect voluntary self-assessment information. The notice also strongly encouraged the regulated entities to post their diversity policies and
practices, as well as information related to their self-assessments
on their public Web sites.
The Office of Minority and Women Inclusion Directors of the
banking agencies worked to establish uniform standards applicable
to all regulated entities and in view of the particular statutory language of section 342 of the Dodd-Frank Act, the banking agencies
determined to make compliance with the standards voluntary.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR MERKLEY
FROM JANET L. YELLEN

Q.1. It’s been 3 years since the Volcker Rule was finalized and a
little over a year since it went into effect. As of last year, banks
can no longer engage in some of the risky trading behavior that
nearly wrecked on our economy.
Both the public and Congress need to understand and deserve to
know how the Volcker Rule is being enforced by regulators and if
banks are complying with it. If we learned anything from 2008, it’s
that Congress must shine a spotlight on how regulators are implementing the Nation’s laws.
The final version of the Volcker Rule included a standard for regulators to measure whether banks went beyond market-making
and into the now prohibited proprietary trading. But, this standard
did not include specific metrics for how the Volcker Rule should be
enforced or how to measure its success.
There’s a lack of clear guidance on what metrics regulators are
using, the thresholds determining if proprietary trading is happening, or even what regulators are supposed to do if a financial
institution is found to be in violation.
In the absence of clearer guidance, how can the American people
and Congress be sure that the regulators are doing their job and
ensuring that the Volcker Rule is being properly implemented by
regulators?
Does the Federal Reserve have a plan to ensure that Congress
and the public is more informed and understand how the Fed is
working with other regulators on enforcement and compliance of
the Volcker Rule?
A.1. I appreciate your desire to understand how the Federal Reserve, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit
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and U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (the Agencies)
are implementing and enforcing compliance with section 619 of the
Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (the
statutory provision known as the Volcker rule). 1 As you know, the
Agencies have jointly issued public rules that detail and implement
the statutory requirements mandated by the Volcker rule. The implementing rules also require each firm engaged in activities covered by the Volcker rule to have in place a compliance program
that is consistent in detail and breadth with the size, type, and
complexity of the banking entity and the activities the entity conducts that are subject to the Volcker rule. The implementing rules
establish minimum requirements for those compliance programs
with increased requirements and detail for the largest banking entities engaged in activities covered by the Volcker rule. Among
these requirements is a provision requiring the chief executive officer of each banking entity engaged in activities covered by the
Volcker rule, on an annual basis, to attest that the entity has in
place processes to establish, maintain, enforce, review, test, and
modify the compliance program in a manner reasonably designed
to achieve compliance with the Volcker rule.
In addition, the Federal Reserve conducts examinations of the
compliance programs and activities subject to the Volcker rule of
banking entities for which the Federal Reserve is the appropriate
supervisor under the Volcker rule. To aid designing and conducting
these supervisory efforts, the implementing rules of the Agencies
require banking entities with significant trading activities subject
to the Volcker rule to report a variety of metrics regarding these
activities. These metrics include risk and position limits and usage,
risk factor sensitivities, value-at-risk (VaR) and stress VaR, comprehensive profit and loss attribution, inventory turnover, inventory aging, and customer facing trade ratio.
As described in the preamble to the final rule, the Federal Reserve uses these metrics as a tool to help identify instances that
may warrant further investigation to determine whether a violation has occurred or whether the activity is within a permitted exception, such as market making or hedging. This additional review
typically includes review of other metrics and information collected
from the firm and information about events that have occurred in
the market. As indicated in the preamble to the final rule, the Federal Reserve and the other Agencies are evaluating the data collected through September 30, 2015, and may revise the metric definitions and collection requirement, as appropriate, based on their
review of the data.
Implementation of the Volcker rule is coordinated among the
Agencies as part of an ongoing effort to facilitate consistent application of its requirements. Staffs of the Agencies regularly meet to
address key implementation and supervisory issues as they arise.
The Agencies collaborate, for example, to jointly issue to the public
responses to frequently asked questions and other forms of external
guidance as appropriate. Public responses to frequently asked questions published to date have clarified particular provisions of the
final rule, including the submission of metrics, expectations during
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the conformance period, the application of certain covered funds restrictions and clarification regarding the annual chief executive officer attestation. 2 Staffs of the Agencies expect to continue to coordinate responding to matters that are of common interest in public statements, including through public responses to frequently
asked questions and in public guidance.
Q.2. Currently, some type of marijuana use is legal in 27 jurisdictions in the United States, or more than half the country. But a
conflict between State and Federal law remains.
This conflict is making it very difficult for marijuana-related
businesses in these States to access to the banking system forcing
them to operate in all cash. Financial institutions that provide
banking services to legitimate marijuana-related businesses are
currently vulnerable to criminal prosecution under Federal law.
As you’re probably aware, few banks and credit unions are willing to risk providing services to marijuana-related businesses, leaving many of these legal businesses cut off by financial institutions.
That means even marijuana-related businesses like landlords and
security companies have lost their accounts at banks and credit
unions. These businesses can no longer accept credit cards, or deposit revenues, or write checks to meet their payroll or pay their
taxes.
In Oregon alone, it is estimated that the marijuana market could
bring in close to half a billion dollars during its first 14 months of
legal sales. Just last month, I accompanied an Oregon businessman
who runs a marijuana dispensary to Salem to pay his taxes. He
had to stuff $70,000 dollars in cash into a backpack in order to pay
the State what he owed in taxes and drive it over an hour away
in his car.
Businessmen and women, who are operating legally under Oregon State law and elsewhere, are forced to shuttle around gym
bags full of cash and it is just an invitation to crime and malfeasance. The Federal Government is effectively forcing legal marijuana businesses to carry gym bags full of cash to pay their taxes,
employees and bills.
This is an invitation to robberies, money laundering, and organized crime. Earlier this month, a 24-year-old U.S. Marine who
was working as a security guard at a Colorado dispensary was shot
and killed in an attempted robbery. The death of a husband and
father of a three children under 4 is tragic. Sadly, it is not surprising given the dangers faced by businesses operating all-cash.
What is the Federal Reserve’s position on ensuring that marijuana-related businesses operating legally at the State level have
access to banking and other financial services?
A.2. The decision to open, close, or decline a particular account or
customer relationship is made by a depository institution without
involvement by its Federal banking regulator. This decision may be
based on the bank’s particular business objectives, its evaluation of
the risks associated with particular products, services, or customers
as well as the institution’s capacity and systems to effectively manage those risks. Among the factors a banking firm will typically
consider in establishing a business relationship with a customer is
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whether the activity of the customer is being conducted in accordance with Federal and State law. Federal law and State law are
in conflict concerning certain types of use and distribution of marijuana. Federal law makes it a Federal crime to possess, grow, or
distribute marijuana and prohibits knowingly engaging in monetary transactions with proceeds from an unlawful activity. Because
of this conflict, marijuana-related businesses in those States that
have legalized certain types of marijuana use and distribution
under State law have had difficulty obtaining financial services.
The Department of Justice and the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) have both issued guidance that recognize
that the use and distribution of marijuana in general continues to
be illegal under Federal law and describe the resources and priority those agencies expect to place on enforcement of those Federal
laws governing marijuana. As a Federal agency, the Federal Reserve incorporates guidance issued by FinCEN concerning the
Bank Secrecy Act into our supervisory process, including references
to FinCEN’s marijuana guidance. Nonetheless, the conflict between
Federal law and State law creates risk and uncertainty for banking
institutions. Only Congress can determine whether it is appropriate to amend Federal law in this area.
Q.3. Do you believe the Federal Reserve has the authority to act
and give banks the certainty they need to offer services to legal
marijuana related businesses or does Congress need to act?
A.3. The Federal Reserve does not have the authority to change
laws and regulations regarding the legality of possession, sale, or
distribution of marijuana. Only Congress has the authority to act
to determine whether it is appropriate to amend Federal law governing marijuana possession, sales, and distribution.
RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR HEITKAMP
FROM JANET L. YELLEN

Q.1. Many American workers face significant economic uncertainty
as they approach retirement. According to a 2015 Government Accountability Office (GAO) report, about half of households age 55
and older have no retirement savings (such as in a 401(k) plan or
an IRA). After reviewing several independent studies, the GAO also
concluded that generally about one-third to two-thirds of workers
are at risk of falling short of maintaining their preretirement
standard of living in retirement.
How is the Federal Reserve monitoring this issue?
What metrics does the Federal Reserve use to quantify retirement needs?
Does it view the lack of retirement savings in the U.S. as a systemic risk?
Are there any steps the Fed has considered taking that would
help address the retirement savings gap?
A.1. Through its Survey of Consumer Finances, the Federal Reserve Board collects some of the key data that provide the foundation on which researchers form judgments about retirement income
adequacy. However, important as it is, retirement income adequacy
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households enter retirement without adequate financial preparation, their spending power will suffer, with potentially serious implications for their own well being over their remaining lifetime,
but the stability of the financial system is not likely to be threatened.
As part of our effort to calibrate the stance of monetary policy
so as to promote the dual mandate given to us by the Congress—
price stability and maximum sustainable employment—we attempt
to gauge the strength of aggregate demand over the next few years.
The issue of retirement income security is of greater relevance over
a considerably longer time horizon: Are today’s working generations adequately preparing themselves for retirement a decade or
more into the future? That question is surely important, even it extends well beyond the reach of monetary policy.
The one main contribution that the Federal Reserve can and does
make to the attainment of a financially secure retirement is to pursue our core monetary policy and financial stability responsibilities.
By pursuing the dual mandate, we aim to establish the best possible backdrop for individuals seeking to provide for their retirement security by having a better chance at steady employment,
and knowing that their retirement savings will not be eroded by a
bout of unanticipated inflation. By helping to build a financial system that is robust, households will have a greater assurance that
their retirement-oriented savings will be there, as planned.
Thus, the Federal Reserve agrees that retirement income adequacy is an important issue; we provide key information that can
be used to form judgments about it; and we recognize that the actions we take under our monetary policy and financial stability responsibilities have indirect implications for the ability of households to attain financial security in retirement.
Q.2. In the past, you have remarked that regulators should work
to help ease unnecessary regulatory burdens on our community
banks. In North Dakota, and rural America more generally, community banks are many times the only access to capital families
and businesses have. Yet more than ever they are faced with layers
of regulatory and accounting rules that I worry are stifling new
bank charters, banking innovation, and customer access to important credit and deposit relationships and products.
Given your concerns about the regulatory pressures on community banks, what is the Fed actively doing to address this issue?
A.2. A major goal of the Federal Reserve is to eliminate unnecessary regulatory burden on all banks, especially community banks.
In that vein, the Federal Reserve has been carefully considering
the comments received as part of the 2014 review conducted pursuant to the Economic Growth and Regulatory Paperwork Reduction
Act of 1996 (EGRPRA). This decennial review, which is a joint effort between the Federal Reserve, the Office of the Comptroller of
the Currency (OCC), and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) (collectively, the Agencies), generated nearly 270 public
comments submitted in response to four issued Federal Register notices. Additional comments were also received from bankers as well
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ings held in 2014 and 2015 with over 1,030 participants in Los Angeles, Dallas, Boston, Kansas City, Chicago, and Washington, DC.
Although the Federal Reserve is still evaluating these comments,
we have already taken action on certain issues. For example, the
Federal Reserve immediately raised the threshold from $500 million to $1 billion for banks that qualified for an 18 month versus
a 12 month examination cycle when the Fixing America’s Surface
Transportation Act became effective on December 4, 2015. An interim final rule later followed in February 2016. 1 In April 2016,
the Federal Reserve published a final rule to expand the applicability of its Small Bank Holding Company Policy Statement by
raising the asset threshold of the policy statement from $500 million to $1 billion in total consolidated assets. The policy statement
was also expanded to apply to certain savings and loan holding
companies. As a result of this action, 89 percent of all bank holding
companies and 81 percent of all savings and loan holding companies are excluded from certain consolidated regulatory capital requirements. In addition to reducing capital burden, the action significantly reduced the reporting burden associated with capital requirements. In addition, raising the asset threshold allowed more
bank holding companies to take advantage of expedited applications processing procedures. 2
Under the auspices of the Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council (FFIEC), the Agencies issued a public notice on
September 8, 2015, to establish a multistep process for streamlining Call Report requirements. 3 The notice announced an accelerated start of a required review of the Call Report and included proposals to eliminate or revise several Call Report data items. It also
included a proposed assessment of the feasibility of creating a
streamlined community bank Call Report. The Agencies also
reached out to the banking industry to better understand significant sources of Call Report burden. On March 4, 2016, the Agencies also issued an ‘‘Interagency Advisory on Use of Evaluations in
Real Estate-Related Financial Transactions.’’ 4 This advisory describes existing supervisory expectations, guidance, and industry
practice for using evaluations instead of appraisals when estimating the market value of real property securing real estate-related financial transactions, and directly responds to issues raised
by EGRPRA commenters regarding the use of evaluations. 5 In
June of 2016, the Agencies also issued supervisory views on the
new accounting standard for credit losses issued by the Financial
Accounting Standards Board indicating that the new standard will
be scaled to the size of the institution, that allowances for credit
losses may be determined using various methods and that smaller
and less complex institutions are not expected to implement complex modeling techniques. 6
Outside of the EGRPRA review, the Federal Reserve has also
taken a number of steps to ease the burden associated with com1 81

FR 10063 (February 29, 2016).
http://wwww.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2015-04-15/pdf/2015-08513.pdf.
FR 56539 (September 18, 2015).
4 See: http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/bcreg/20160304a.htm.
5 OCC Bulletin 2016-8; FRB SR letter 16-5; FDIC FIL-16-2016.
6 SR Letter 16-12.
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munity bank examinations, including improving examination efficiency by:
• Using existing bank financial data to identify high-risk activities, which would allow us to focus our supervisory efforts and
reduce regulatory burden on banking organizations with less
risk;
• leveraging technology to conduct more examination work offsite; 7
• simplifying and tailoring preexamination requests for documentation;
• helping community bankers easily identify new regulations or
proposals that are applicable to their organizations; and
• conducting extensive training for examiners and performing internal reviews and studies to ensure that rules and guidance
are properly interpreted and applied appropriately to community banks.
Further, in order to reduce the burden of on-site examinations
the Federal Reserve continues to coordinate with other regulators
on the majority of on-site examination work. For example, since
1981, the Federal Reserve and the State regulators have examined
community banks that are free of problems on an alternative
schedule, with the Federal Reserve examining one year and the
State the next. The Federal Reserve and the State regulators also
conduct joint examinations or participate in each other’s examinations.
Q.3. How has the Fed coordinated with other regulatory agencies
to appropriately tailor rules for community banks? Do you see
areas for improvement in this regard?
A.3. The Federal Reserve collaborates with the other regulatory
agencies in most major aspects of bank supervision such as the development of supervisory rules and guidance and on-site examinations. For example, a large portion of the guidance issued that impacts community banks are developed on an interagency basis
through the FFIEC. Through the FFIEC, the Federal Reserve has
and continues to work with other regulators to help ensure that
our rules are properly tailored so that smaller institutions are not
subject to the same set of requirements as larger institutions.
When permitted by law, the Federal Reserve and the other regulatory agencies work together to tailor supervisory rules and guidance based on the bank’s risk, size, and complexity so that the
most stringent requirements are applicable to the largest, most
complex banking organizations that pose the greatest risk to the
U.S. financial system. For example, the enhanced prudential standards and expectations implemented through the Dodd-Frank Wall
Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act set forth a number of
requirements that do not apply to community banks such as capital
plans, stress testing, and liquidity and risk management requirements. Many of the requirements of the capital rule that were
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ation also do not apply to community banks. Also, to assist community banks in understanding how new complex rules could possibly
affect their business operations, the Federal banking agencies have
issued supplemental guides that focus on rule requirements that
are most applicable to community banks. For example, the Federal
banking agencies issued supplemental guides for the 2013 capital
rule, as well as the Volcker rule issued in December 2013.
As to the identification of areas for improvement, the Federal Reserve and the other Federal banking agencies are currently in the
midst of completing the EGRPRA review. The Federal Reserve
views this review as a timely opportunity to step back and look for
ways to reduce regulatory burden, particularly for smaller or less
complex banks that pose less risk to the U.S. financial system. By
the end of this year, the Federal banking agencies will submit a
report to Congress summarizing any significant issues raised by
the commenters and the relative merits of such issues, as well as
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