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MINUTES

OF

MEETING

of the
FEDERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
Septem ber 25, 1924

MINUTES OF M EETIN G OF THE FED ERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL

September 25, 1924.

A regular statutory meeting of the Federal Advisory Council was held in the
Federal Reserve Board room, Treasury Building, Washington, D. C., Thursday, Sep­
tember 25, 1924, having been postponed by direction o f the Executive Committee
from the third Monday, the date prescribed in the By-Laws.
Present:
Mr. P. M. W arburg President

District No.

Mr. E. F. Swinney, Vice-President

District No. 10

Mr. C. A. Morss

District No.

1

Mr. L. L. Rue

District No.

3

Mr. C. E. Sullivan

District No.

4

Mr. C. E. Rieman

District No.

5

2

(Alternate fo r Mr. John M. Miller, Jr.)
Mr. 0 . Wells

District No.

6

Mr. J. J. Mitchell

District No.

7

Mr. F. J. W ade

District No.

8

Mr. G. H. Prince

District No.

9

Mr. W. M. M cG regor

District No. 11

Mr. D. W. Tw ohy

District No. 12
Secretary

Mr. C. B. Georgen

The President, Mr. W arburg, called the meeting to order at 10:00 A. M.
The President presented a letter from Mr. Miller stating that he was unable
to attend the m eeting and that Mr. Rieman, o f Baltimore, his alternate, would
represent the F ifth District.
On motion, duly seconded, the minutes o f the Council meeting of May 12-13,
1924, copies o f which had previously been sent to the members, were approved.
The President reported to the Council the opening of an account with the
New Y ork Trust Company, to be drawn against jointly by the President and the
Secretary, which arrangem ent, on motion, duly seconded, was approved.
The President fu rth er presented the final financial report of Mr. H. L.
Hilyard, form er Secretary, showing a balance o f $3,126.12, turned over to the new
Secretary, as o f June 1, 1924, duly audited and certified. On motion, duly seconded,
the report was approved and a copy thereof made a part o f these minutes.
A com m unication, dated September 4, 1924, from Governor Crissinger, was
presented expressing the wish o f the Federal Reserve Board to receive reports from
the individual m em bers concerning general business conditions in the various dis-




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REPORT OF SECRETARY OF THE F E D E R A L AD VISORY COUNCIL

For Five M o n th s E nd ing M ay 31, 1924.

Balance on hand Jan. 1, 1924..... $1,903.17

Miscellaneous Items ............ $ 100.20

Assessment, 12 Fed. Res. Banks

Salary .....................................

625.00

Printing .................................

185.11

Traveling E xpenses..............

201.93

Corporation T ru st................

25.00

Telegrams .............................

17.34

Postage

.................................

22.47

Balance ...................................

3,126.12

2,400.00

$4,303.17

$4,303.17

Philadelphia, May 31, 1924.

To the Federal Advisory Council:
We have audited the books, vouchers and accounts of the Secretary of the
Federal Advisory Council for the period ending May 31, 1924, and certify that the
above statement agrees therewith.




Respectfully,
(Signed) J. A. DUFFY,

Assistant Cashier,
The Philadelphia National Bank.

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tricts and inviting the President to report his impressions regarding the European
situation.
The question as to whether the time had come for Federal Reserve Banks to
exercise more freely the power granted them under the Act to invest in foreign bills
was considered and on motion, duly seconded, the following Resolution was unani­
mously adopted by the Council for presentation by the President to the Board:
“ W h e r e a s , a further easing of money rates at this time might render
it extremely difficult to ward off a period of acute inflation with its subse­
quent evil consequences with which the country is only too well familiar,
and
W h e r e a s , forced investments of Federal Reserve Banks in our market
and continued substantial importations of gold into the United States are
factors that m ight tend to enhance the plethora of money already exist­
ing,
R eso lv ed , that this Council recommend to the Federal Reserve Board

to consider the question whether the time has come fo r Federal Reserve
Banks to exercise their power to invest some of their funds in foreign bills
with approved Am erican banking indorsements and payable by and repay­
able to Federal Reserve Banks in dollars.
The Council believes that observing these safeguards and by properly
scattering its purchases the Federal Reserve System can safely invest sub­
stantial amounts abroad, without any risk of loss on account of exchange
or otherwise, and in doing so ward off to that extent the inflow of gold,
incidentally assisting the foreign countries involved in their efforts to
stabilize their exchanges and to bring them back to definite gold relations.”
A fter general discussion o f the present difficulty of Federal Reserve Banks to
meet running expenses, on motion, duly seconded and approved, the President was
requested to inquire inform ally o f the Board as to what action, if any, had been
taken upon previous recommendations (Recommendation No. 1, May 21, 1923, and
Recommendation No. 2, November 19, 1923), regarding the discontinuance of free
services in connection with the collection o f non-cash items (other than coupons),
by Federal Reserve Banks.
A t 11:00 A. M. the Council adjourned to convene in joint session with the
Federal Reserve Board.




C. B. GEORGEN,

Secretary.

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MINUTES OF JOINT CONFERENCE OF THE FED ERAL ADVISORY
COUNCIL AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD

September 25, 1924.
At 11:00 A. M. a joint conference of the Federal Advisory Council and the
Federal Reserve Board was held in the Federal Reserve Board room.
Present: Members of the Federal Reserve Board:
Governor, D. R. Crissinger, Vice Governor Edmund Platt, Hon. H. M. Dawes,
Comptroller of the Currency, Messrs. C. S. Hamlin, G. R. James, E. H. Cunningham,
also Mr. G. B. Winston, Undersecretary of the Treasury.
Present: Members of the Federal Advisory Council:
Mr. P. M. Warburg, President; Mr. E. F. Swinney, Vice President; Messrs.
C. A. Morss, L. L. Rue, C. E. Sullivan, C. E. Rieman, O. Wells, J. J. Mitchell, F. J.
Wade, G. H. Prince, W. M. McGregor, D. W. Twohy, and C. B. Georgen, Secretary.
The President of the Council called the meeting to order and at the suggestion
of Governor Crissinger requested the members in turn to report on the credit and
business outlook in the various districts. No recommendations were made with
regard to the advisability of changing existing discount rates at this time.
At 11:40 Secretary Mellon joined the conference and discussed the European
situation from the standpoint of his recent observations abroad, with particular
reference to the recent acceptance of the Dawes report and the impending inter­
national loan to Germany. A supplementary report concerning European conditions
was made by the President.
At 1:00 P. M., the joint conference adjourned.




C. B. GEORGEN,

Secretary.

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MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE FEDERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL

September 25, 1924.

At 3:00 P. M., the Council reconvened in the Federal Reserve Board room, the
President, Mr. Warburg, in the Chair.
Present: Mr. P. M. Warburg, President; Mr. E. F. Swinney, Vice President;
Messrs. C. A. Morss, C. E. Sullivan, C. E. Rieman, O. Wells, J. J. Mitchell, F. J.
Wade, G. H. Prince, W. M. McGregor, D. W. Twohy and C. B. Georgen, Secretary.
The President brought to the attention o f the Council the statement made by
the Secretary o f the Treasury, foreshadowing the redemption on February 1, 1925,
o f the $118,489,900-4% Loan o f 1925, and upon motion, duly seconded, the following
Resolution approving the policy involved in the substitution of Federal Reserve cir­
culation fo r inelastic national bank circulation, was unanimously adopted and a copy
sent by the President to Secretary Mellon and to Undersecretary Winston:
“ The Council has learned that the Secretary of the Treasury is about
to call in fo r redemption on February 1, 1925, the $118,489,900-4% Loan
o f 1925, and desires to record its entire approval of the policy involved in
this step.”
A t 3:30 P.M., the Council adjourned to convene in joint session with the Fed­
eral Reserve Board.




C. B. GEORGEN,

Secretary.

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MINUTES OF JOINT CONFERENCE OF THE FEDERAL ADVISORY
COUNCIL AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD

September 25, 1924.

At 3:30 P. M., a joint meeting of the Federal Advisory Council and the Fed­
eral Reserve Board was held in the Federal Reserve Board room.
The President of the Council, called the meeting to order and presented to the
Federal Reserve Board Resolution No. 1 attached, which had been unanimously
adopted by the Council.
A general informal discussion among the members of the Board and of the
Council followed.
The President inquired if any action had been taken by the Board regarding
the discontinuance of free collection of non-cash items by Federal Reserve Banks.
Governor Crissinger stated that a report by the Committee of Governors studying
the matter had been submitted to the Board in March of this year but that the Gov­
ernors had disagreed and the matter would come up again at the next conference
of Governors and Federal Reserve Agents on November 10th. The Secretary was
requested to obtain and forward copies of the report, to the members of the Council,
should further action be considered desirable at the next meeting.
At this point Governor Crissinger withdrew, his place being taken by Vice
Governor Platt.
The President presented to the Federal Reserve Board Resolution No. 2
attached, which had been unanimously adopted by the Council.
At 4:30 P. M., the joint conference adjourned, concluding the session of the
Council.




C. B. GEORGEN,

Secretary.

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R E SO LU TIO N S A D O P T E D B Y THE F E D E R A L A D V IS O R Y COUNCIL

S E P T E M B E R 25, 1924.

RE SO L U T IO N NO. 1 :

W h e r e a s , a further easing o f money rates at this

time m ight render it extrem ely difficult to ward off a period of acute inflation with
its subsequent evil consequences with which the country is only too well fam iliar,
and

W h e r e a s , forced investments o f Federal Reserve Banks in our market and con­
tinued substantial im portations o f gold into the United States are factors that m ight
tend to enhance the plethora o f money already existing,

R e so lv e d , that this Council recomm end to the Federal Reserve Board to con­
sider the question whether the tim e has com e fo r Federal Reserve Banks to exercise
their pow er to invest some o f their funds in foreign bills with approved Am erican
banking indorsem ents and payable by and repayable to Federal Reserve Banks in
dollars.

The Council believes that observing these safeguards and by properly scatter­
ing its purchases the Federal Reserve System can safely invest substantial amounts
abroad, w ithout any risk o f loss on account o f exchange or otherwise, and in doing
so w ard off to that extent the inflow o f gold, incidentally assisting the foreign
countries involved in their efforts to stabilize their exchanges and to bring them
back to definite gold relations.

R ESO LU TIO N NO. 2 : The Council has learned that the Secretary o f the
Treasury is about to call in fo r redemption on February 1, 1925, the $118,489,900-4%
Loan o f 1925, and desires to record its entire approval of the policy involved in this
step.




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