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M IN U T E S O F M E E T IN G
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F E D E R A L A D V IS O R Y C O U N C IL
S E P T E M B E R 1 4 4 5 , 1931

MINUTES OF M EET IN G OF THE FED ERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
September 14, 1931.
The third statutory meeting for 1931 of the Federal Advisory Council was convened
in Room 836 of the Mayflower Hotel, Washington, D. C., on Monday, September 14,
1931, at 10:15 A.M., the Vice-President, Mr. Smith, in the Chair.
Present:
M r.
Mr.
M r.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
M r.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

District No. 1
District No. 2
District No. 3
District No. 4
District No. 5
District No. 6
District No. 7
District No. 8
District No. 9
District No. 10
District No. 12
Secretary

Herbert K. Hallett
Robert H. Treman
Howard A. Loeb
J. A. House
John Poole
John K. Ottley
Melvin A. Traylor
Walter W. Smith
George H. Prince
Walter S. McLucas
H. M . Robinson
Walter Lichtenstein

Absent:
Mr. B. A. McKinney

District No. 11

The Secretary read a wire from Mr. McKinney, stating that owing to an accident
he was unable to be present at the meeting. The Secretary was instructed to send a wire
to Mr. McKinney expressing the regrets of the members of the Council at his absence
and wishing him a speedy recovery.
On motion, duly made and seconded, it was voted to approve the minutes of the
meeting of the Council of May 18, copies of which had been previously sent to members
of the Council.
It was decided to discuss in detail the amendments to the Federal Reserve Act and
the National Bank Act suggested by the Comptroller of the Currency. A recommenda­
tion was adopted which is attached to these minutes. (Topic No. 1.)
A discussion took place regarding depreciation in bond accounts and the instruc­
tions of the Comptroller of the Currency addressed to the chief national bank examiners,
given under date of August 29, 1931, was read. The Council voted to commend the
Comptroller’s action. (Topic No. 3.)
It was also voted to make a recommendation to the Federal Reserve Board regarding
the possibility of permitting in times of pressure certain securities to be used as collateral
by member banks which ordinarily are not acceptable to the Federal Reserve banks.
(Topic No. 2.)
Mr. Prince presented a copy of correspondence between Governor Eugene Meyer
and Mr. John R. Mitchell, Chairman of the Board of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minne-




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apolis, embodying a suggestion of President Hoover’s to have the larger banks of the
country lend on the good frozen assets of closed banks for the benefit of depositors. The
Secretary was instructed to send a copy of President Hoover’s letter to Governor Meyer
to the members of the Council.
The members adjourned to lunch together, Governor Meyer being at the lunch,
but Mr. Ottley being unable to be present. Governor Meyer discussed principally the
foreign situation.
At 2:45 P.M. the regular meeting was resumed; Mr. Ottley returned and Dr. Golden­
weiser discussed the credit situation.
The members of the Council were notified that President Hoover had requested their
presence at dinner at the White House at 8:00 P.M. in order to discuss the business and
banking situation of the countryThe meeting adjourned at 4:00 P.M.




WALTER LICHTENSTEIN,
Secretary.

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MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE FEDERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
September 15, 1931.
At 10:00 A.M. the Federal Advisory Council reconvened in the Federal Reserve Board
Room, Treasury Building, Washington, D. C., the Vice-President, Mr. Smith, in the Chair.
Present: Mr. W. W. Smith, Vice-President; Messrs. H. K. Hallett, R. H. Treman,
H. A. Loeb, J. A. House, John Poole, J. K. Ottley, G. H. Prince, W. S. McLucas, and
Walter Lichtenstein, Secretary.
On motion, duly made and seconded, it was unanimously voted to make recommenda­
tions Nos. 1, 2, and 3 to the Board in the form attached hereto.
The meeting adjourned at 10:25 A.M.




WALTER LICHTENSTEIN,
Secretary.

M IN U T E S OF JO IN T C O N FE R E N C E OF TH E FE D E R A L A D V ISO R Y COU NCIL
A N D TH E F E D E R A L R E SER V E B O A R D
September 15, 1931.
A t 10:30 A .M . a joint conference of the Federal Advisory Council and the Federal
Reserve Board was held in the Federal Reserve Board R oom , Treasury Building,
Washington, D. C.
Present: Members o f the Federal Reserve B oard:
Governor Eugene M eyer; M r. John W. Pole, Comptroller of the Currency; Messrs.
C. S. Hamlin, G. R. James, and W. W. Magee; also Messrs. E. M . McClelland and J. C.
Noell, Assistant Secretaries of the Board; Walter W yatt, General Counsel of the Federal
Reserve Board; E. A. Goldenweiser, Director, Division of Research and Statistics,
Federal Reserve Board, and E. L. Smead, Chief of Division of Bank Operations.
Present: M embers o f the Federal Advisory Council:
M r. W . W . Smith, Vice-President; Messrs. H. K . Hallett, R . H. Treman, H. A. Loeb,
J. A. House, John Poole, J. K . Ottley, G. H. Prince, W . S. M cLucas, H. M . Robinson,
and W alter Lichtenstein, Secretary.
The Secretary of the Federal A dvisory Council read the three recommendations
adopted.
Governor M eyer intimated that the Board would value the opinion o f the Council
regarding the action taken to assist European central banks in the recent emergency.
A discussion took place regarding business conditions. Each member of the Council
present reported regarding the situation in his own district.
The meeting adjourned at 12:45 P .M .




W A L T E R L IC H T E N S T E IN ,
Secretary.

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M IN U TE S OF M E E T IN G OF F E D E R A L A D V ISO R Y COU NCIL
September 15, 1931.
A t 12:50 P.M . the Federal Advisory Council met in the Federal Reserve Board
Room, Treasury Building, Washington, D. C., the Vice-President, M r. Smith, in the Chair.
Present: M r. W. W. Smith, Vice-President; Messrs. H. K . Hallett, R. H. Treman,
H. A. Loeb, J. A. House, John Poole, J. K . Ottley, G. H. Prince, W . S" M cLucas, H. M .
Robinson, and Walter Lichtenstein, Secretary.
The council discussed the suggestion of Governor M eyer to endorse the action taken
in aiding Europe in the recent emergency, and it was unanimously voted to adopt recom­
mendation N o. 4, attached hereto.
The meeting adjourned at 1:15 P .M .




W A L T E R L IC H T E N S T E IN ,
Secretary.

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RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE FEDERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL TO THE
FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD
September 15, 1931.

Act.

TOPIC No. 1: Proposed amendments to National Bank Act and Federal Reserve

RECOMMENDATION: The Federal Advisory Council has received the recom­
mendations of the Comptroller of the Currency made in his Annual Report for 1930,
suggesting certain changes in the Federal laws relating to banking. The Federal Advisory
Council is in sympathy with the Comptroller’s recommendations, but suggests certain
changes. In the following the original where changed is placed in brackets and the
changes suggested by the Federal Advisory Council are italicized:
I. Group and Chain Banking.
No national bank should be permitted to become a part of a group banking system,
except on the condition that all other banks in the group are [national banks; and when
a State member bank of the Federal Reserve system is a part of a group, the Federal
Government should be given visitorial powers over the entire group.] members of the Fed­
eral Reserve System to the end that the Federal Government have visitorial powers over the
entire group. More specifically:
(a) No corporation should be premitted to own [a majority] in excess of 20% of the
stock of a national bank if it owns at the same time [a majority] in excess of 20% of the
stock of a State bank unless said State bank is a member of the Federal Reserve System.
(b) The Comptroller of the Currency should be given visitorial power over any cor­
poration owning [a majority] in excess of 20% of the stock of a national bank.
(c) No national bank should be permitted to make a loan on the security of the stock
of a corporation owning [a majority] in excess of 20% of the stock of the lending bank.
II. Branch Banking.
A. The McFadden Act should be amended to permit national banks in import­
ant commercial and financial centers to establish branches in the area that is economically
and financially tributary to such centers without regard to State boundaries or to State
banking laws. The privilege should be limited to banks in cities serving a territory
sufficient to provide economic diversification. The [trade] area within which banks located
in such cities may extend their branches should be defined by a committee consisting of
the Comptroller of the Currency, the Secretary of the Treasury, and the Governor of
the Federal Reserve Board. Banks permitted to have branches in [a trade] an area should
have [a minimum capital of] capital adequate to their deposit liabilities, the minimum not
to be less than $1,000,000. The extension of branches should be subject to the approval
of the Comptroller of the Currency.
B. The National Bank Consolidation Act should be amended to permit any
bank within the [trade] branch-bank area to consolidate under national charter with the
approval of the comptroller of the Currency.




III. Affiliates.
A. The Comptroller of the Currency should have authority to examine security
or investment companies affiliated with national banks.
IV. Fiduciary Powers.
A. The law should be amended to provide that the exercise of fiduciary powers
shall be one of the corporate powers of a national banking association, subject to the exist­
ing limitations regarding State laws now contained in the Federal Reserve Act.
V. Liquidation of National Banks.
A. The Comptroller of the Currency should be given supervision of national
banks going into voluntary liquidation and the liquidating agent should be required to
give bond and render reports to the Comptroller of the Currency in the same manner as
the receiver of an insolvent bank up to such time as all liabilities other than to stockholders
have been paid in full.
VI. Circulating False Reports.
A. It should be made a crime to maliciously make or circulate any false report
concerning a national bank, or a member of the Federal Reserve system, which imputes
insolvency or unsound financial condition.
TOPIC No. 2: Eligibility of securities in times of pressure.
RECOM M ENDATION: The Federal Advisory Council suggests that the Federal
Reserve Board consider the advisibility of permitting Federal Reserve banks in times of
pressure to accept from member banks bills payable on securities not now eligible, the ^
Federal Reserve Board to issue regulations defining the conditions under which such action
may be taken.
TOPIC No. 3: Depreciation of bond accounts in banks:
RECOMMENDATION: The Federal Advisory Council commends the instruc­
tions given by the Comptroller of the Currency to the chief national bank examiners
under date of August 29, 1931, reading as follows:
“Subject to the necessities of individual cases, until otherwise instructed, this office
(Comptroller of the Currency) will not require the charge off of any depreciation on
bonds of the United States Government, or states, or counties, or municipalities thereof,
or other bonds which have the following rating:
By
Moody
High Class
High Grade
Sound
Good




AAA
AA
A
BAA

By Standard
Statistics
A-l plus
A-l
A
B-l plus
3

By
Fitch
AAA
AA
A
BBB

By Bond and
Quotation Service
A-3
A-2
A
B-3

“The policy of requiring a charge off of depreciation on defaulted issues and 25% of
the depreciation on the remaining bonds at the time of each examination will remain
in force and effect.”
TOPIC No. 4: Assistance to European central banks and domestic credit situation.
RECOMMENDATION: In response to the request of the Federal Reserve Board
for an expression of opinion the Federal Advisory Council states that it is in accord with
the action of the Federal Reserve banks in lending with the approval of the Federal Re­
serve Board assistance to European central banks in the recent emergency.
The Federal Advisory Council suggests to the Federal Reserve Board that it explore
the possibility of giving all possible support to the stabilization of the credit situation
in the United States in the interest of American business generally including agriculture,
industry and commerce.




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