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MINUTES OF MEETING- OF THS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
OF THE OPEN MARKET POLICY CONFERENCE HELD AT THE
OFFICE OF IKE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK
OCTOBER 2 6 , 1931

The members of the committee arrived at about 10:30 a. m . , and report
of operations and memorandum on credit conditions were distributed and read.
The meeting was formally called to order at 11:25, there being present
the following:
Governor Harrison, chairman, and Governors Young, Norris, Black, and
McDougal, Governor Meyer of the Federal Reserve Board, and Mr. Burgess, secretary.
The report of operations and memorandum on credit conditions were
ordered received and placed on file.
Governor Harrison stated that there appeared to bo two important problems
to consider, the first relating itself to system general policy, whether to buy
governments, soil governments, or to maintain present holdings unchanged, and
second, the question of the distribution of governments and bills between individ­
ual reserve banks to take care of needs which might arise for banks to maintain
their reserve percentage or their amount of free gold.

He proposed discussing the

first question first and separately from the other question.
Governor McDougal made a statemrnt as to the position of the Chicago
Bank with regard to government securities citing the changes which had taken place
in Federal Reserve credit and recommending the reduction of system security hold­
ings by the amount of the maturities through next March.
Governor Harrison reviewed the considerations affecting open market
policy, indicating, first, th^t the free gold position of the System was not a
consideration at this time first because there is now, even after a loss of over
$700,000,000 of gold over $800,000,000 free gold in the System, practically as
large as before the outward gold movement started and second because a sale of
government securities would not in fact really strengthen the System’
s gold posi­
tion.

Its only effect would be to provide additional collateral for Federal




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reserve notes, whereas there is an ample amount of collateral either now on hand
or in sight so that a shortage of collateral would not be a limiting factor on
the amount of gold which could be exported or the amount of Federal reserve notes
which could be issued.

At the present time only $300,000,000 of Treasury notes

out of $2,700,000,000 outstanding are not collateraled to 60% of value by eligible
paper.
The most important question which the System faces at present is the
problem of bank failures and hoarding of currency.

Failures had been increasing

at a rapid rate and are exercising a terrific pressure on the credit situation.
Every action of the System should be considered in the light of its possible
effect on these failures and on the willingness of banks to help out their corres­
pondents in time of difficulty#

A decrease in the System’
s holdings of govern­

ment securities might affect the situation adversely, first, by its psychological
influence as indicating a policy of pressure, and second* as tending to increase
the amount of member bank discounts and so making them somewhat less willing to
lend freely to help banks actually in need.
Governor Harrison reported his conversations with New York bankers in
which he had recommended that a policy of veiy liberal lending be followed, partic­
ularly to out-of-town banks which had need.
should be used rather than preserved.

The present was a time when liquidity

He felt it desirable that nothing should be

done by voluntary System action unnecessarily to discourage the use of this liquid—
ity in rendering aid to banks in need.
There ensued a general discussion of the attitude taken by city banks
toward assisting banks in difficulty, the general sentiment of the meeting being
that everything should be done to persuade banks to adopt a liberal policy in
this regard and to borrow freely from the Federal Reserve System when that was
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Governor Norris stated that while he had recently been opposed to pur­
chases of government securities and would like to see System holdings reduced*
he did not think the present was a time when we could wisely sell securities.
The System had cooperated in the movement toward easy money as a result of which
many banks had bought government bonds at low yields, and any action now which
tended to accentuate the losses of banks on governments would be most unpopular.
Governor Meyer indicated that the committee at present had no authority
to sell governments, but that it could* if desired, request the Federal Reserve
Board to approve the recommendation of the last Open Market policy Conference
that the executive committee be given authority to sell up to $>120f000,000 of
governments*
Governor Young summarized the advantages and disadvantages of a decrease
in holding of government securities, and concluded that it would not be wise at
this time to sell government securities or to let the total run off except possibly
to the extent that it might be desirable to offset purchases of Intermediate Credit
Bank debentures and municipal warrants.
Governor McDougal moved that unless conditions changed System maturities
of government securities in November be allowed to run off.
The meeting adjourned at I2:j50 without action having been taken on this
motion.
The members of the committee attended the meeting of tho executive com-r
mittee of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and resumed their own meeting at
3:25 p. m ., there being present all of those who were present at the morning
meeting*
Governor Harrison reported the probable plans of the Bank of France with
respect to its American balances*
Governor Meyer reported a series of telegrams from Governor Calkins of
the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco recommending letting maturities of goyornment securities run off for the balance of this year at least, and recommending some



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plan for a more equitable distribution of holdings between the Reserve banks to
provide a more ample free gold position and reserve position for some of the banks*
The motion made by Governor McDougal at the conclusion of the morning’
s
meeting was seconded and on mot ion defeated by a vote of 4 to 1*
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It was moved and carried that while for the moment there is no occasion
for a reduction in System holdings of government securities, that by reason of
the views expressed by a number of governors favorable to a sale of government
securities, and because of the possibility of changes in the credit situation
which might make sales desirable * the committee ask the Federal Reserve Board to
give the executive conmittee the same leeway with respect to sales of government
securities as it now possesses with respect to purchases as recommended by the
resolution of the Open Market Policy Conference on August 11*^
With regard to the desirability of a meeting of the Open Market Policy
Conference it was agreed that the results of the dayfs meeting should be sent to
the other Federal reserve banks by telegram and letter as early as possible, and
it was the sense of the committee that there should be a meeting of the Conference
as soon as conditions appeared to make it wise and practicable for the governors
to leave their own institutions for such a meeting.
There ensued a discussion of the distribution of government securities
between individual Reserve banks with special reference to a number of requests
which have been received recently to take over securities from Reserve banks whose
position required strengthening.

It was agreed first that a bank which was short

in its reserves should ask for relief through the sale of bills to other Reserve
banks whenever its situation- could be relieved by that method; and second, that in
the case of a bank where its difficulty was in its free gold position rather than
simply in its reserve position, it should offer its government securities to other
Reserve banks through the committee, but should only make this request when it was
really necessary to strengthen its position-, and the amount of the request should
be limited to that necessary to meet the usual fluctuation in its gold holding.




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The committee would then offer participation in these bills and securities to
the other banks with the understanding that those whose reserve position is such
as to enable them to take bills or securities should cooperate to the fullest
extent possible*
There was then some discussion as to the policies followed by the
Reserve banks as to lending on government bonds.

The New York, Chicago,

Minneapolis, and Atlanta banks were reported as lending on government bonds at
their par value.

The Philadelphia bank was lending at pur value when the market

price was 95 or better, and the Boston bank was reported as lending on values at
market.

In the discussion it was emphasized that the Reserve banks had been

vigorously supporting the ruling of the Comptroller under which prime bonds were
to be listed at par, and the acceptance of governments at something less than
par would appear to be inconsistent with this position.

Moreover, there was a

good deal of disturbance among member banks at recent declines in government
bonds which would be accentuated if the Reserve banks took These bonds at less
than pur.

In view of the limited amount of governments selling below par and

the additional protection the Reserve banks possessed it was not believed any
considerable risk was taken.
Governor Young raised the question whether there was any way of distri­
buting earnings or losses on open market holdings in a more equitable manner, but
after discussion no motion was made upon this point.
Reference was made to payments of gold coin into circulation, and it
was agreed that the principle which must be followed was that payments should be
made with complete freedom.
been important.




The amounts of such payments made thus far have not

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G-overnor Harrison reported that at the New York bank gold certificates
were being paid into circulation only on request* but that there was no hesita­
tion in making such payments when asked*

As a result considerable amounts of

gold certificates were being retired from circulation#




The meeting adjourned at 4:40 p. m#

W. Randolph Burgessj
Secretary*