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Minutes of the Financial Stability Oversight Council
July 28, 2023
PRESENT:
Janet L. Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury and Chairperson of the Financial Stability Oversight
Council (Council)
Jerome H. Powell, Chair, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Federal Reserve)
Martin Gruenberg, Chairman, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC)
Gary Gensler, Chair, Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)
Rostin Behnam, Chairman, Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC)
Rohit Chopra, Director, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB)
Sandra L. Thompson, Director, Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA)
Michael J. Hsu, Acting Comptroller of the Currency, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency
(OCC)
Todd M. Harper, Chairman, National Credit Union Administration (NCUA) (via
videoconference)
Thomas E. Workman, Independent Member with Insurance Expertise
James Martin, Acting Director, Office of Financial Research (OFR), Department of the Treasury
(non-voting member) (via videoconference)
Steven Seitz, Director, Federal Insurance Office (FIO), Department of the Treasury (non-voting
member)
Adrienne Harris, Superintendent, New York State Department of Financial Services (non-voting
member) (via videoconference)
Elizabeth K. Dwyer, Superintendent of Financial Services, Rhode Island Department of Business
Regulation (non-voting member)
Melanie Lubin, Securities Commissioner, Maryland Office of the Attorney General, Securities
Division (non-voting member)
GUESTS:
Department of the Treasury (Treasury)
Nellie Liang, Under Secretary for Domestic Finance
Sandra Lee, Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Council
Laurie Schaffer, Principal Deputy General Counsel
Eric Froman, Assistant General Counsel (Banking and Finance)
Sean Hoskins, Director of Policy, Office of the Financial Stability Oversight Council
Nicholas Steele, Director of Analysis, Office of the Financial Stability Oversight Council
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
Michael Barr, Vice Chair for Supervision (via videoconference)
Nami Mukasa, Associate Director and Chief of Staff, Division of Financial Stability
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
Susan Baker, Corporate Expert, Systemic Risk

Securities and Exchange Commission
Corey Frayer, Senior Advisor
Commodity Futures Trading Commission
David Gillers, Chief of Staff
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
Gregg Gelzinis, Advisor to the Director
Federal Housing Finance Agency
George Sacco, Senior Analyst, Division of Housing Mission and Goals
Comptroller of the Currency
Jay Gallagher, Senior Deputy Comptroller for Supervision Risk and Analysis
National Credit Union Administration
Andrew Leventis, Chief Economist (via videoconference)
Office of the Independent Member with Insurance Expertise
Charles Klingman, Senior Policy Advisor
Federal Reserve Bank of New York
John Williams, President
Richard Crump, Financial Research Advisor, Macrofinance Studies (via videoconference)
Office of Financial Research
Michael Passante, Chief Counsel
Federal Insurance Office
Philip Goodman, Senior Insurance Regulatory Policy Analyst
New York State Department of Financial Services
Karen Lawson, Executive Vice President for Policy and Supervision, Conference of State Bank
Supervisors (via videoconference)
Rhode Island Department of Business Regulation
Ethan Sonnichsen, Managing Director, National Association of Insurance Commissioners
(NAIC)
Maryland Office of the Attorney General, Securities Division
Dylan White, Associate General Counsel, North American Securities Administrators Association
PRESENTERS:
Nonbank Mortgage Servicing Task Force
• Anna Watson-Mwangi, Senior Financial Analyst, FHFA
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Greg Keith, Senior Vice President and Chief Risk Officer, Ginnie Mae
Sandra Lee, Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Council, Treasury
Alanna McCargo, President, Ginnie Mae (available for questions) (via videoconference)
Sam Valverde, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, Ginnie Mae
(available for questions) (via videoconference)
Kevin Silva, Associate Director, Enterprise Counterparty Financial Standards, FHFA
(available for questions) (via videoconference)
Michael Opsahl, Principal Analyst, FHFA (available for questions)
Karen Pence, Deputy Associate Director, Division of Research and Statistics, Federal
Reserve (available for questions)

Climate-related Financial Risk Committee Update (Executive Session)
• Sini Matikainen, Senior Policy Advisor, Office of the Financial Stability Oversight Council,
Treasury
• Terri Barger, Acting Technical Expert for Commercial Credit Policy, OCC
• Yue (Nina) Chen, Chief Climate Risk Officer, OCC (available for questions)
• Daren Purnell, Associate Director for Data Products, OFR (available for questions) (via
videoconference)
Developments in the Banking Sector
• Michael Barr, Vice Chair for Supervision, Federal Reserve (via videoconference)
• Lisa Ryu, Senior Associate Director, Division of Supervision and Regulation, Federal
Reserve
• Doriana Ruffino, Manager, Division of Supervision and Regulation, Federal Reserve
Climate-related Financial Risk Committee Update (Open Session)
• Sandra Lee, Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Council, Treasury
LIBOR Update
• Michael Barr, Vice Chair for Supervision, Federal Reserve (via videoconference)
• David Bowman, Senior Associate Director, Division of Monetary Affairs, Federal
Reserve
Executive Session
The Chairperson called the executive session of the meeting of the Council to order at
approximately 9:58 A.M. The Chairperson began by outlining the meeting agenda, which had
previously been distributed to the members together with other materials. The agenda for the
executive session included (1) an update on the work of the Council’s Nonbank Mortgage
Servicing Task Force, (2) an update on the work of the Council’s Climate-related Financial Risk
Committee, and (3) an update on developments in the banking sector.

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1. Nonbank Mortgage Servicing Task Force
The Chairperson introduced the first agenda item, an update on the work of the Council’s
Nonbank Mortgage Servicing Task Force. She noted that in the April 2023 Council meeting,
staff had presented to the Council on risks in the nonbank mortgage servicing sector.
She welcomed representatives of Ginnie Mae participating in the meeting, including Alanna
McCargo, President of Ginnie Mae. She then introduced Anna Watson-Mwangi, Senior
Financial Analyst at the FHFA; Greg Keith, Senior Vice President and Chief Risk Officer at
Ginnie Mae; and Sandra Lee, Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Council at Treasury.
Ms. Watson-Mwangi began by highlighting certain points from the presentation at the Council’s
April 2023 meeting on challenges related to nonbank mortgage servicing. She noted that an
increase in mortgage interest rates and a decrease in refinancings had strained the nonbank
business model. She also noted that there had been structural changes in the market over the last
10 years, and that the current regulatory structure was not necessarily designed for the risks faced
today. She stated that federal and state agencies were working to address the risks, but she noted
that they faced challenges in doing so. She said that the staff analysis was focused on four
components of the regulatory framework: risk monitoring; promoting safe and sound operations;
contingency planning for a stress event; and resolution planning. She then described work being
done by agencies, including Ginnie Mae, FHFA, the Federal Reserve, and state regulators,
regarding these four issues. Among other things, she cited counterparty risk analysis and
monitoring; the development of a stress-testing framework and a risk dashboard; the approval of
model state regulatory prudential standards; examinations; the establishment during the COVID19 pandemic of the Pass-Through Assistance Program to advance principal and interest
obligations for mortgage-backed securities issuers; and sub-servicing contracts and default
readiness playbooks in the context of resolution planning. She also described actions that could
be taken based on current authorities and practices.
Mr. Keith then stated that significant work was underway to mitigate the identified risks, but he
noted that limitations may prevent the risks from being sufficiently addressed without reforms.
He said that, notwithstanding the robust supervisory and enforcement actions of state regulators,
challenges remained, including the fragmented oversight of nonbank mortgage servicers; the lack
of federal prudential supervisory and enforcement authority; a lack of liquidity available in an
emergency context; and the lack of a central coordinator to facilitate the bankruptcy or resolution
process.
Ms. Lee stated that since April, staff had assessed actions federal and state agencies had taken to
address the identified risks in the nonbank mortgage sector and what additional steps could be
taken to mitigate the risks. She concluded by outlining potential next steps for the Council to
consider, including further interagency coordination and additional public communications.
The Chairperson stressed the importance of agencies being prepared to respond in the event of
stress and encouraged further analysis regarding potential structural reforms. She then turned to
Ms. McCargo for comment.

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Ms. McCargo stated that Ginnie Mae works with issuers to monitor identified risks. She said
that nonbank mortgage issuers are critical to the sector and pose certain risks. She stated that
Ginnie Mae, in its efforts to promote a stable and resilient nonbank mortgage sector, was
working to support liquidity but lacks the tools needed to sufficiently address liquidity concerns.
She noted that Ginnie Mae was managing the default of a reverse mortgage lender and mortgagebacked securities issuer. She said that the default of this issuer had been an isolated event so far,
but pointed to broader structural challenges in the reverse mortgage market and the general
tightening of liquidity for nonbank mortgage issuers across the market.
The Chairperson then turned to Sandra Thompson, Director of the FHFA. Director Thompson
noted the interdependencies between the housing and banking sectors, and she said that large
banks withdrawing from the mortgage service industry had led to an increase in nonbank
mortgage origination and servicing. She noted the need for increased coordination and
communication with respect to planning for any potential default by nonbank mortgage
servicers.
Council members then asked questions and had a discussion, including regarding the need for
interagency coordination and the limitations of existing authorities of state and federal agencies
to address the identified risks.
2. Climate-related Financial Risk Committee Update
The Chairperson then turned to the second agenda item, an update on the work of the Council’s
staff-level Climate-related Financial Risk Committee (CFRC). She introduced Sini Matikainen,
Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of the Financial Stability Oversight Council at Treasury, and
Terri Barger, Acting Technical Expert for Commercial Credit Policy at the OCC.
Ms. Matikainen noted that the charter of the CFRC states that its duties include identifying
priority areas for assessing and mitigating climate-related risks to the financial system;
facilitating information sharing and coordination among staff of Council members and member
agencies; coordinating efforts among Council members and member agencies to address data
gaps; and overseeing the Council’s Climate-related Financial Risk Advisory Committee
(CFRAC).
Ms. Matikainen stated that staff had made significant progress since the most recent staff update
to the Council on the work of the CFRC. She noted that the CFRC had continued to serve as a
forum for interagency cooperation and coordination, particularly through the use of working
groups. She said that the CFRC’s Scenario Analysis Working Group had provided a valuable
forum for technical discussions related to scenario analysis. She also noted that in October 2022
the Council had established the CFRAC, which is holding regular meetings. She said that
Council member agencies continued their progress in advancing recommendations in the
Council’s 2021 climate report. She noted that the OFR had launched a new platform, the Joint
Analysis Data Environment (JADE), for improving regulators’ access to data and computing
tools. She highlighted that the Federal Reserve had launched a pilot climate scenario analysis for
six large bank holding companies, and that federal banking agencies had proposed for public
comment principles regarding large banks’ management of climate-related financial risks. She
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also noted that FIO had issued a report assessing climate-related issues and gaps in the
supervision and regulation of insurers and that the SEC had proposed rules on climate-related
disclosures.
Ms. Barger noted that the CFRC had created a Risk Assessment Working Group to identify and
assess climate-related financial risks, and she described the group’s efforts to develop a
framework to evaluate both physical risk and transition risk. Regarding physical risk, she noted
that climate-related economic impacts can impact the financial system through credit losses,
market disruptions, and other mechanisms. She noted that the working group was continuing to
develop its climate-related financial risk monitoring capabilities, and she described examples of
how to monitor credit, market, and operational risks.
Ms. Matikainen concluded by describing further anticipated CFRC efforts to serve as a forum for
interagency collaboration, discussion, and analysis, including regarding the intersection between
physical risk, housing, and insurance.
Council members then had a discussion regarding the importance of member agencies continuing
to gather and share data, collaborate regarding climate-related financial risks, and advance efforts
to address climate-related financial risks within their authorities.
3. Developments in the Banking Sector
The Chairperson then introduced the next agenda item, an update on developments in the
banking sector, including the results of the 2023 bank stress tests. She turned to Michael Barr,
Vice Chair for Supervision at the Federal Reserve, for the first update.
Mr. Barr stated that overall, the banking system was strong and resilient, and that most banks had
substantial capital and liquidity. He noted that the actions taken by the FDIC and Federal
Reserve in March 2023 had limited the stress from spreading. He noted that markets for
repurchase agreements and commercial paper were functioning appropriately. He also noted that
a reduction in deposits meant that many banks were getting more expansive market-based
funding, compressing their net interest margins. He noted that investors continued to monitor
banks with large unrealized losses or commercial real estate exposures, especially those with
concentrated exposures to office properties. He noted that the FDIC, OCC, and Federal Reserve
had issued proposed rules to implement the so-called Basel III endgame, and that the Federal
Reserve had also issued proposed refinements to the risk-based capital surcharges for global
systemically important banks (G-SIBs).
The Chairperson then turned to Martin Gruenberg, Chairman of the FDIC. Chairman Gruenberg
stated that the actions taken in March to protect uninsured deposits had a market-stabilizing
effect, and he said that since then, there had been a stabilization of liquidity in regional banks.
He noted the continuing need to monitor for risks. He also noted the recent issuance of the Basel
III proposed rules, and he said that the FDIC expected to propose a long-term debt rule for
midsized banks. With respect to supervisory issues, he noted a focus on banks with
concentrations of uninsured deposits.

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The Chairperson then turned to Michael Hsu, Acting Comptroller of the Currency. Acting
Comptroller Hsu stated that it was important to remain vigilant in monitoring risks, including
those related to commercial real estate. He also noted the importance of ensuring uniform
supervision across the banking sector, to promote a level playing field and high standards.
The Chairperson then introduced Lisa Ryu, Senior Associate Director of the Division of
Supervision and Regulation at the Federal Reserve, and Doriana Ruffino, Manager in the
Division of Supervision and Regulation at the Federal Reserve, for the presentation on the 2023
bank stress test results.
Ms. Ruffino described the results of the Federal Reserve’s stress tests. She first stated, in sum,
that in the stress tests, no bank’s post-stress minimum common equity tier 1 capital ratio fell
below 4.5 percent under the severely adverse scenario. She stated that for the 23 banks subject
to the tests, preliminary stress capital buffers increased for eight, decreased for nine, and
remained at the 2.5 percent floor for six. She also noted that for the U.S. G-SIBs, market losses
in the tests under the exploratory market shock were lower than losses under the global market
shock.
Ms. Ruffino then described certain assumptions in the stress tests, including a 6.4 percentagepoint increase in the unemployment rate, a 38 percent decline in the House Price Index, and a
decline in the Treasury bill rate of 3.9 percentage points. She then summarized the results,
noting that in the stress tests the aggregate common equity tier 1 capital ratio fell by 2.5 percent
to a minimum of 9.9 percent, with gains on available-for-sale securities partly offsetting the
decline in pretax net income. She noted that mortgages and credit card loans drove higher
consumer losses, and that business loan loss rates declined. She noted that projected preprovision net revenue was similar to the previous stress tests. She then described the Federal
Reserve’s exploratory market shock, which applied to the eight U.S. G-SIBs and did not affect
the firms’ capital requirements. She stated that the exploratory market shock featured moderate
increases in interest rates, the U.S. dollar, and commodity prices in the opposite direction of the
global market shock from the stress tests, and other market price moves that were less severe
than the global market shock. She stated that for most G-SIBs, the exploratory market shock
resulted in lower losses, but the composition of the losses varied. She concluded by noting that
scenario shocks should be designed holistically to capture risks.
The Chairperson stated that the stress tests showed that the participating banks have sufficient
capital to absorb losses from significant downside macroeconomic scenarios. She stated that the
information gathered from the exploratory market shock also illustrated the usefulness of
continued innovation in stress tests. She also stated that the banking sector events earlier in 2023
indicated how important it is to think creatively about potential shocks to U.S. banks.
The Chairperson adjourned the executive session of the meeting at approximately 11:12 A.M.
Open Session
The Chairperson called the open session of the meeting of the Council to order at approximately

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11:19 A.M.
The Chairperson outlined the agenda for the open session, which included (1) an update on the
Council’s Climate-related Financial Risk Committee, (2) an update on the transition from
LIBOR to alternative reference rates, and (3) a vote on the minutes of the Council’s meeting on
June 16, 2023.
1. Climate-related Financial Risk Committee Update
The Chairperson introduced the first agenda item, an update on the Council’s Climate-related
Financial Risk Committee. She stated that addressing climate-related financial risk is a priority
for the Council, and she said that she appreciated the significant progress Council members had
made since the Council published its climate report in October 2021. She introduced Sandra
Lee, Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Council at Treasury, for an update on efforts by the
Council and its members to identify and address climate-related financial risks.
Ms. Lee stated that since the update to the Council in July 2022 on the CFRC’s progress, the
Council and its members had continued to advance the recommendations in the Council’s
climate report. She said that the CFRC had begun meeting in February 2022 and had served as a
valuable forum for Council members to share information on climate-related financial risk,
facilitate the development of common approaches and standards, and foster communication
across Council members. She stated that the CFRC and its working groups were advancing key
themes from the Council climate report, particularly on data sharing and risk assessment.
Ms. Lee stated that following the meeting, the Council would release a staff progress report with
additional details on the work of the CFRC and related topics. She noted that member agency
staff on the CFRC were developing a framework to identify and assess climate-related financial
risk and develop a preliminary set of risk indicators for banking, insurance, and financial
markets. She said that member agency staff on the CFRC were collaborating with the OFR on
its new platform, JADE, to improve regulators’ access to data, high-performance computing
tools, and analytical and visualization software. She stated that staff’s work in this area was
grounded in the Council’s mandate to assess and address the financial stability implications of
climate-related financial risk. She said that staff’s efforts to improve data sharing and risk
assessment would advance the Council’s understanding of climate-related financial risks and
promote the resilience of the financial system. She said the staff progress report highlighted both
the work being done collectively through the Council and significant actions undertaken by
individual Council members since the publication of the Council climate report. She said that
these included actions by FIO, which issued a request for comment on a proposed collection of
data from property and casualty insurers regarding current and historical underwriting data on
homeowners’ insurance. She said the request for comment seeks to assess the potential for major
disruptions of private insurance coverage in regions of the country that are particularly
vulnerable to the impacts of climate change. She stated that the OCC, FDIC, and Federal
Reserve had each released for public comment proposed principles for climate-related financial
risk management for certain large financial institutions. She said that the Federal Reserve had
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that the SEC had issued a proposed rule that would require registrants to include certain climaterelated disclosures in their registration statements and periodic reports.
Ms. Lee stated that member agency staff would continue to use the CFRC as a forum for
interagency engagement and coordination, with a focus on addressing data gaps and the
development of key risk indicators for risk-assessment purposes. She said that staff would also
further explore the intersection between physical risk, real estate, banking, insurance, and
household finance. She said that acute and chronic physical risks can lead to sharp falls in
property values and incomes in certain areas, with implications for real estate markets,
households, and financial institutions. She stated in conclusion that staff would evaluate the
interconnections and spillovers in this area and work to better understand the transmission
channels through which these risks could affect the financial system.
The Chairperson noted that work on climate-related financial risk was a priority for the Council.
She said that since the update to the Council on this topic in 2022, the physical impacts of
climate change had continued to worsen. She stated that in the previous month, average global
temperatures had set new records for the hottest temperatures in recorded history, and she noted
that during the summer of 2023 millions of Americans had been exposed to both record-breaking
heat and wildfire smoke. She said that climate disasters had grown in frequency and intensity in
recent years. She noted that according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,
since 1980 the United States had experienced over 360 weather or climate disasters where
overall damages or costs had reached or exceeded $1 billion, averaging approximately eight such
disasters per year. She said that in the previous three years alone, there had been a total of 60
such events, an average of 20 per year, which she noted is two and a half times greater than the
long-term average. She said that American households were already experiencing the impacts,
even if their own homes had not been damaged.
The Chairperson stated that as the frequency and intensity of climate-related disasters increases,
some insurers had begun raising the rates for homeowners’ insurance or were stepping back
entirely from offering coverage in higher-risk areas. She said that as a result, more households
were turning to residual markets for coverage or were foregoing insurance entirely. She said that
while recent news coverage had focused on high-profile insurer withdrawals from California and
Florida, insurer withdrawals, insolvencies, and significant premium increases were occurring in
multiple states. She said that the United States experienced $165 billion in total economic losses
from climate-related disasters in 2022, only 60 percent of which were covered by insurance,
suggesting the need to understand how to narrow this protection gap. She said that these
climate-related impacts had the greatest impacts on underserved and disadvantaged communities,
which are already less resilient to financial shocks. She stated that it was important to better
understand not only the challenges to households, but also the implications of changes in
property insurance for real estate markets and financial institutions that rely on insurers to help
manage risks. She said that she welcomed staff’s intent to expand its analysis on the
interconnectedness of real estate, insurance, and other financial markets and the implications for
systemic risk, alongside current staff efforts to expand capacity and improve data and
management of climate-related financial risks. She expressed her support for the progress on
these topics and other areas identified in the staff progress report, and she invited other Council
members to provide updates on the efforts at their agencies in this area.
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Jerome Powell, Chair of the Federal Reserve, stated that the staff progress report highlighted the
range of work on climate-related financial risks by Council members. He said that it was
important that Council members continue to work to ensure that the financial system understands
and appropriately manages the financial risks of climate change. He said that the Federal
Reserve would continue to collaborate with other Council member agencies on this issue. Chair
Powell then turned to Michael Barr, Vice Chair for Supervision at the Federal Reserve.
Mr. Barr stated that the staff progress report summarized Council member agency activities in
implementing the recommendations of the October 2021 Council climate report. He said that
climate change poses significant challenges for the global economy and the financial system,
with implications for the safety and soundness of financial institutions and the stability of the
financial sector more broadly. He said that it is important that the Council continues to work to
ensure the financial system understands and appropriately manages the financial risks of climate
change. He said that while further work remained, the report indicated that the Council is
moving in the right direction.
Mr. Barr stated that the responsibilities of the Federal Reserve with respect to climate change are
important but narrow, and derive from its existing mandate to promote the safety and soundness
of financial institutions and the stability of the financial sector more broadly. He noted that the
staff report highlighted progress on scenario analysis. He said that the Federal Reserve was
conducting a pilot climate scenario analysis exercise to help large banks and supervisors better
understand the effects of various hypothetical climate scenarios on individual banks. He said
that the goal of the pilot exercise was to deepen understanding of risk-management practices in
this area and enhance the ability of the largest banks and supervisors to identify, measure,
monitor, and manage climate-related financial risks. He noted that because climate scenario
analysis is an emerging risk-management tool, the exercise was exploratory in nature and there
were no consequences for bank capital or supervisory implications. He stated that the Federal
Reserve anticipated publishing information on an aggregated, not firm-specific, basis by the end
of 2023, to provide insights into how large banking organizations were incorporating climaterelated financial risks into their risk-management frameworks and to highlight how participants
were approaching and addressing practical and conceptual challenges with understanding
climate-related financial risks. He said that the Federal Reserve would continue to work with
other member agencies to increase their collective understanding of the financial impacts of
climate change, and to contribute to the increased resiliency of supervised firms and the stability
of the broader financial system.
Gary Gensler, Chair of the SEC, noted the reference to the work of the SEC in the staff progress
report, and provided additional context on the SEC’s proposal regarding climate risk disclosure.
He said that in response to the Great Depression and the fraudulent practices of those times,
President Roosevelt and Congress collaborated to develop the federal securities laws, under
which investors may choose to decide which risks they take, so long as public companies make
complete and truthful disclosure. He stated that the SEC was assigned an important role. He
said that the SEC focuses on disclosures regarding investments but remains neutral regarding the
merits of investments. He said that while the SEC was not assigned any role with respect to
climate risk itself, it does have an important role in helping to ensure that public companies make
full, fair, and truthful disclosure about the material risks they face. He said that issuers were
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already making climate risk disclosures and investors were making investment decisions based
on those disclosures. He noted that a majority of the top 1,000 issuers by market capitalization
already make such disclosures, including disclosures regarding scope 1 and scope 2 greenhouse
gas emissions. He also noted that investment firms representing tens of trillions of dollars in
assets under management were making decisions relying on those disclosures. He stated that the
SEC, in fulfilling the role assigned by Congress, had issued a proposal for comment regarding
climate-related disclosures to improve consistency and comparability of the disclosures that the
SEC currently requires. He said that the SEC was carefully considering the more than 15,000
comments it had received on the proposal. He stated said that the agency, taking into account
relevant economic and legal considerations, would consider adjustments to the proposed rule that
SEC staff, and ultimately the SEC itself, determine are appropriate in light of those comments.
Martin Gruenberg, Chairman of the FDIC, stressed the important role that the Council plays in
fostering collaboration among the financial regulatory agencies in their response to climaterelated financial risks. He said that each of the Council member agencies is devoting significant
resources within its scope of responsibility to better understand and engage with the financial
risks of climate change. He stated that the FDIC had established an interdivisional working
group to evaluate the responsibilities of the FDIC for supervision, resolution, and deposit
insurance, and to consider how the financial risks of climate change might impact those
responsibilities. He said that the three banking agencies had proposed guidance that they
intended to jointly finalize in the near future. He said that the Council plays a unique role in
assisting member agencies to gather, share, and analyze information regarding climate-related
financial risks.
Michael Hsu, Acting Comptroller of the Currency, stated that he supported the publication of the
staff progress report. He highlighted the efforts of the CFRC Risk Assessment Working Group,
and he noted that staff participating in that group were developing a framework to identify and
assess climate-related financial risk, which included a preliminary set of risk indicators for
banking, financial, and insurance markets. He stated that the goal of the working group was to
improve understanding of how physical and transition risks arising from climate change may
manifest as financial risk. He noted that each of the federal banking agencies had proposed highlevel principles underpinning a risk-management framework to address climate-related financial
risk. Finally, he said that, while more work remained, many large banks had been proactive in
incorporating climate-related financial risk in their risk-management frameworks and policies.
He said that these efforts included updating their strategic-planning processes, incorporating
climate risk into their risk-appetite statements, and using scenario analysis to better understand
the risk profiles. He said that the OCC, as it pursued next steps regarding its proposed climate
risk management principles, would continue to monitor progress and encourage safe and sound
practices at large banks.
Rostin Behnam, Chairman of the CFTC, expressed his support for the staff progress report. He
said that CFTC staff continued to use a broad set of stress-testing scenarios to ensure that
registered entities were prepared to meet their financial obligations during periods of elevated
market risk. He stated that CFTC staff intended to monitor the growth of derivatives markets
that may be affected by physical or transition risk over time and identify areas where additional
or adjusted scenarios may be needed. He said that the CFTC, in addition to its collaboration with
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the CFRC, had hosted a convening on voluntary carbon markets, in which several federal
agencies had participated. He said that, following the convening, he anticipated that the CFTC
would consider issuing guidance addressing standards in voluntary carbon markets. He also
noted that the CFTC’s Whistleblower Office in the Division of Enforcement issued an alert
notifying the public how to identify and report potential Commodity Exchange Act violations
connected to fraud or manipulation in carbon markets. He stated that the CFTC’s Division of
Enforcement had announced the establishment of two new task forces, one of which would focus
on environmental fraud and misconduct in derivatives and relevant underlying spot markets. He
said that the new environmental fraud task force would investigate, among other matters,
potential fraud with respect to the purported environmental benefits of purchased carbon credits.
Rohit Chopra, Director of the CFPB, stated that the previous weekend, 118 million Americans
had experienced a heat index above 100 degrees. He noted that a few weeks ago, the hottest July
4 on record was recorded across the world, only to be surpassed on July 5 and then again on July
6. He said that Canadian wildfire smoke surrounding the Washington Monument was a visible
sign of the conditions that the United States must prepare for. Noting that thousands of records
had been shattered across the world, he said that these conditions were adversely impacting
ordinary Americans. He said that loan losses associated with climate events and natural disasters
had led many property insurers to decline offers to renew policies, most notably in California and
Florida. He noted that many small insurers in Florida had gone out of business. He said that a
reduction in available insurers, combined with the increased climate risk in these areas, had led
to drastically higher insurance costs. He noted, in addition, that in certain circumstances if a
homeowner’s insurance coverage lapses and is not promptly replaced, the lender may acquire
insurance for the homeowner and then charge them for it. He stated that such force-placed
insurance policies could be more than double the price of regular insurance, since they are
generally not underwritten to the specifics of the home. He said that CFPB rules require a
servicer to notify a homeowner whose policy has lapsed at least 45 days before charging the
borrower for this insurance. He said that increased costs compound other home affordability
costs and can make it difficult for homeowners to satisfy other debt payments and living
expenses. He noted that such trends can also lead to declining home values and force
homeowners to sell their home.
Director Chopra stated that homeowners have some options, including making use of statebacked plans, if their private homeowners’ insurance is to be cancelled or their premium has
become unaffordable. He said they may also be able to access their state’s Fair Access to
Insurance Requirements plan, although he noted that such plans are typically expensive and have
more limited coverage. He said that homeowners can also shop for alternatives by contacting
their state’s insurance regulator to determine which insurers are operating in their area. He noted
that homeowners can ask their agent why they are receiving notice from their insurer and if there
is a possibility for the insurer to reconsider their decision. He said that homeowners should
maintain contact with their mortgage servicer and notify them of any change in insurance to
avoid the possibility of expensive force-placed insurance. He stated that the CFPB had provided
guidance on how homeowners can remove such insurance, and he said that the CFPB would
continue to monitor mortgage market participants. Noting that these problems were likely to
worsen, he said that it is incumbent on state and federal regulators and policymakers, including

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insurance regulators, consumer protection regulators, and banking regulators, to collaborate to
ensure that homeowners are not seriously impacted and the mortgage system remains safe.
James Martin, Acting Director of the OFR, stated that he updated the Council in 2022 about a
pilot the OFR was preparing to launch, called the Climate Data and Analytics Hub. He said that
OFR built the hub partly in response to a request from the Federal Reserve, which had asked the
OFR to leverage its data hosting and analytical capabilities to support research on climate-related
financial risk. He said the resulting pilot also advanced President Biden’s Executive Order on
Climate-related Financial Risk, which called on the OFR to assist the Council in assessing and
identifying climate-related risks to financial stability. He stated that this request also presented
an opportunity for the OFR to test its ability to create a scalable model of a data hub environment
that Council member agencies could use for research on various financial stability topics.
Acting Director Martin said that, given the success of the pilot, the OFR announced in April
2023 that it was developing an expanded and enhanced version of the climate hub. He said that
the OFR had launched its Joint Analysis Data Environment, or JADE, an OFR-hosted platform
designed for Council agencies to access, integrate, and jointly analyze data. He said that its
secure, cloud-based environment provides access to analysis-ready data, analytical software, and
high-performance computing tools. He stated that while climate-related financial risk was the
first use case for JADE, the OFR had designed JADE to be responsive to the evolving nature of
risks to financial stability. He said that the financial system faces threats from multiple sources,
and he noted that such threats do not adhere to regulatory boundaries, but rather travel from one
regulated space to another. He said that the stability of the financial system is best promoted
when regulators work together. He stated that regulators would benefit from the JADE
platform’s capacity to access, integrate, and analyze data. He said that JADE would enable
regulators to produce interdisciplinary research that identifies emerging risks.
Steven Seitz, Director of FIO, stated that the staff progress report demonstrated the substantial
progress in addressing the recommendations of the Council’s climate report. He said that FIO
supports the work of the CFRC and would continue to prioritize this collaboration. He noted that
FIO continued to make progress in responding to the Council’s climate report recommendations.
He stated that in June 2023, FIO published its report on insurance supervision and regulation of
climate-related risk, which highlighted current efforts by the NAIC and state insurance regulators
to incorporate climate-related risk into supervision and regulation, while also noting potential
opportunities for further progress. He said that the FIO report provided 20 recommendations to
help improve the management and supervision of climate-related risk within the state-regulated
insurance sector, some of which could also bear on the recent decisions of several large carriers
to scale back their exposure in parts of the country that are vulnerable to climate-related losses.
He said that it is also important for regulators and other stakeholders, when assessing climaterelated financial risk, to have access to consistent, comparable, and granular data. He said that to
facilitate this goal, in October 2022, FIO published a request for comment proposing the
collection of current and historical underwriting data on homeowners’ insurance from certain
insurers. He said that FIO was continuing to consider the comments it received. He stated in
conclusion that FIO would continue its engagement with member agencies as the Council
examines the interconnections between the insurance market, physical risk, and real estate
markets.
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Elizabeth Dwyer, Superintendent of Financial Services for the Rhode Island Department of
Business Regulation, stated that state insurance regulators have extensive expertise and
knowledge in property insurance, including regarding some of the topics mentioned by Director
Chopra. She said that state insurance regulators had begun discussions with the CFPB and
FHFA on these topics, and she welcomed collaboration with other regulators on property
insurance issues.
Later in the meeting, Thomas Workman, the Council’s independent member with insurance
expertise, expressed his support for the staff progress report, and noted the importance of data
gathering, risk analysis, and transition analysis in relation to climate-related risk.
2. LIBOR Update
The Chairperson then introduced the next agenda item, an update on the transition from LIBOR
to alternative reference rates. She turned to Mr. Barr to provide the update.
Mr. Barr stated that, following 10 years of preparation, the end of U.S. dollar LIBOR had
occurred without significant issues on June 30. He said that it was useful to consider what had
been accomplished in connection with the transition from LIBOR. He said that the Council had
focused on the transition because LIBOR represented a significant risk to financial stability. He
noted that LIBOR had been replaced methodically and smoothly. He said that with a transition
to the overnight Secured Overnight Financing Rate (SOFR), a major vulnerability had been
eliminated and the U.S. and global financial system now rested on a resilient and sound key
benchmark. He stated that this complex risk to the financial system had been successfully
resolved through collaboration with the Alternative Reference Rates Committee (ARRC), the
private-sector body leading the transition in the United States, and other private-sector
participants. He said that had this effort not been undertaken, the end of LIBOR could have
caused many parts of the financial system to come to a halt. He said that this process had been a
model of public-private sector collaboration, involving collaboration across all the Council
member agencies as well as with authorities in the United Kingdom and the Financial Stability
Board’s Official Sector Steering Group, among others. He said, however, that the official sector
should not have had to intervene to do this work. He stated that in the future, market participants
should avoid repeating the mistakes they made with LIBOR. He said that in light of the recent
announcement by the International Organization of Securities Commissions (IOSCO) that certain
credit-sensitive rates were not compliant with IOSCO’s principles for a stable and reliable
benchmark, market participants should re-evaluate whether those rates are appropriate for their
use and for their customers. He then turned to David Bowman, Senior Associate Director in the
Division of Monetary Affairs at the Federal Reserve, to provide additional detail on the
transition.
Mr. Bowman reiterated that the transition from LIBOR on June 30 passed without incident. He
said that LIBOR contracts would continue to roll off into SOFR when they reach their first postJune resets over the next several months. He stated that a few borrowers that had been unable to
satisfactorily remediate loans beforehand opted into one further six-month LIBOR interest period
in order to further negotiate with their lenders. He said that most of the approximately 10,000 to
20,000 remaining securities that had not already registered rate changes in the Depository Trust
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and Clearing Corporation’s communication tool before June 30 had resets in July or August and
would need to communicate their new rates by that time. He said that loans referencing
synthetic LIBOR had effectively already become SOFR loans, but they would need to be more
formally remediated before September 2024, when synthetic U.S. dollar LIBOR is expected to
end publication.
Mr. Bowman stated that a new, much more stable system had emerged, with SOFR as the
dominant interest rate benchmark in derivatives and now referenced in almost all floating-rate
capital products and consumer loans. He said that while most business loans now reference
CME Group’s term SOFR rates, he anticipated that use of term SOFR would remain
appropriately limited to supporting this market, as recommended both by the Council and the
Financial Stability Board, given that CME Group had incorporated most of the ARRC’s
recommendations directly into its licensing agreement for term SOFR. He stated that while the
ARRC would wind down, its recommendations in regard to term SOFR would remain, and he
noted that any uses of term SOFR outside of the ARRC’s recommendations would represent a
violation of a contractual agreement with CME Group.
Mr. Bowman stated that the ARRC’s recognition of somewhat wider trading of term SOFRSOFR basis swaps by non-dealers appeared to be having its intended effect. He said that there
had been a small number of these trades, and he noted that while this market would likely never
be very large or very liquid, it was already allowing dealers to lay off a portion of their term
SOFR risk, ensuring the use of term SOFR can remain sustainable in supporting the business
loan market. He said that market participants would need to avoid repeating the mistakes that
they made with LIBOR. He said that contracts need to incorporate robust fallback language,
even for SOFR and term SOFR. He stated that the International Swaps and Derivatives
Association had created one example of such fallback language for SOFR in its definitions, and
he noted that this example can be used in other SOFR products as well. He said that fallback
language for other reference rates, including term SOFR, is best served by referring to explicit
fallback rates at the top of the rate waterfalls, which might be SOFR or an average of SOFR set
in advance or in arrears, rather than relying on the discretion of one counterparty to select a new
benchmark.
Mr. Bowman stated that market participants also need to adequately assess the rates they use and
ensure these rates are appropriate for their intended uses. He said the ARRC had spent two years
analyzing all the potential markets and rates that could serve as the basis for the recommended
benchmark before the ARRC selected SOFR. He said that every day, the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York publishes a full set of volumes and rate distribution statistics for each of the market
components underlying SOFR, allowing market participants to assess SOFR’s construction and
robustness daily. He stated that in publicly establishing the reasons behind the choice of SOFR,
the ARRC had warned that it believed that certificate of deposit and commercial paper markets
were too thin to serve as the basis for a robust rate. He said that IOSCO had now finished a
review that arrived at the same conclusion, and he noted that IOSCO had asked certain
administrators setting benchmarks based on these markets that had previously represented that
the benchmarks were compliant with IOSCO’s principles to remove all statements that they are
compliant. He said that these rates had relatively limited use, although there were no use
restrictions embedded in their license agreements. He noted that many market participants using
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these rates had pointed to statements that the rates were compliant with IOSCO principles to
justify this use. He said that those market participants would need to re-evaluate their choices in
light of IOSCO’s statement. He said that accounting firms that previously attested that these
rates were compliant with IOSCO’s principles would also need to re-evaluate their understanding
of the principles.
Mr. Bowman concluded by saying that while the ARRC would wind down, its recommendations
would not. He said that the new system was designed to last, but he noted that the official and
private sectors would need to continue to monitor the use of interest rate benchmarks to ensure
that the problems with LIBOR do not recur. He stated that the Financial Stability Board would
continue to monitor the reference rate environment in conjunction with IOSCO and other
international groups.
The Chairperson stated that the Council had identified LIBOR as a significant risk to financial
stability for over a decade and had supported actions to transition away from LIBOR toward
alternative reference rates. She said that the final publication of U.S. dollar panel-based LIBOR
had occurred on June 30, which she noted occurred without market disruption. She said that,
given the substantial time and effort invested by Council member agencies, market participants
were well-prepared for the transition. She said that the LIBOR transition served as an example
of how industry participants and regulators can collaborate to solve complex issues. She said
that it was now important to build on the progress made following nearly a decade of official
sector involvement to transition safely from LIBOR. She said that market participants should
ensure that the issues that led to problems in LIBOR are not recreated. She said that it was
important to incorporate robust fallback language in financial contracts and adhere to the
ARRC’s recommendations, such as limiting the use of term SOFR to the suggested areas and
ensuring that the vast majority of transactions are rooted in the overnight rate. She noted that a
small portion of the U.S. loan market still referenced LIBOR, and she encouraged market
participants to finish transitioning their contracts, especially given that the publication of
synthetic U.S. dollar LIBOR is not expected to continue after September 2024. The Chairperson
then invited other members of the Council to comment on the LIBOR transition.
Chair Powell expressed his appreciation for the contributions of Mr. Bowman in the transition
from LIBOR. Surveying the history of the transition, he noted that the ARRC was convened at
the end of 2014 and identified SOFR as the preferred replacement following a market-wide
consultation. He said that SOFR had gone into production in 2018, and he noted that the ARRC
had successfully encouraged voluntary take-up of SOFR in consumer mortgages, floating-rate
debt, derivatives, and securitizations over the next several years. He stated that the ARRC had
also supported more robust fallback language in legislation in several states to help address
legacy LIBOR contracts, which he noted served as a template for the federal legislation that was
ultimately enacted. He said that Mr. Bowman played an important role in this process.
Chair Gensler stated that LIBOR was an innovation of the 1970s to facilitate businesses
borrowing from banks at a rate that adjusted based on market interest rates. He said that by the
1980s, to determine LIBOR, banks were using a rate at which banks were lending to each other
without taking collateral. He said that LIBOR became so popular that it was embedded in
hundreds of trillions of dollars of financial contracts around the world, encompassing not only
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traditional business contracts, but also mortgages and car loans. He said it was therefore critical
that LIBOR be based on an accurate and reliable indicator. He noted, however, that there were
few transactions underpinning LIBOR. He said that in 2008, staff at the CFTC began
investigating LIBOR. He stated that CFTC staff, working with law enforcement partners around
the globe, had identified multiple cases of banks manipulating LIBOR for their own profit and
defrauding the public. He said that policymakers and central banks, including the Federal
Reserve, collaborated to address the issue. He noted that the Council, the Financial Stability
Board, and market regulators, including the CFTC and SEC, played an important role in the
response. He noted that Congress took legislative action to facilitate the LIBOR transition. He
said that in the United States, the main replacement for LIBOR is SOFR. He cautioned that
regulators must continue to be vigilant and guard against the emergence of new rates that are not
robust. He said that certain alternatives being considered in the markets presented many of the
same flaws as LIBOR, such as thin markets with few underlying transactions, which created a
system vulnerable to collapse and manipulation.
Chair Gensler stated that he believed that credit-sensitive rates, such as the Bloomberg ShortTerm Bank Yield Index, have infirmities and would not stand the test of time or be conducive to
financial stability. He noted that IOSCO had recently conducted a review of certain alternatives
to U.S. dollar LIBOR and concluded that the credit-sensitive rates reviewed were not found to
meet IOSCO’s principles for stable and reliable benchmarks in the areas of benchmark design,
data sufficiency, and transparency. He concluded by noting that the reliance on LIBOR
represented a cautionary tale.
Chairman Behnam highlighted the work of CFTC staff in identifying the infirmities of LIBOR
and the efforts of Mr. Bowman in the transition from LIBOR. He said that a CFTC
subcommittee had worked closely with the ARRC to raise awareness regarding potential
challenges, identify risks to financial markets and individual consumers, and develop solutions
within the derivatives space. He stated that the CFTC had collaborated with the Federal Reserve
and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, in addition to the ARRC, and he noted that the
collaboration yielded successful results, from plain-English disclosures to tabletop exercises to
prepare for the SOFR transition by central counterparties. He said that the derivatives industry
had transitioned in a smooth and orderly fashion. He said that a more stable system had
emerged, with SOFR as the dominant interest rate benchmark, and he stated that market
participants should continue to incorporate robust contractual fallbacks. He said that the LIBOR
transition had shown the importance of robust, workable fallback provisions. He emphasized the
importance of using SOFR, term SOFR, and any other reference rates that continue to align with
the recommendations of the ARRC, the Financial Stability Board, and the Council. He said that
use of term SOFR rates in derivatives and in most other cash markets must be limited to avoid
the types of problems created by LIBOR. He said that market participants should ensure that
their choice of reference rates is fit for purpose, robust, and rooted in deep, credible, and liquid
markets. He said that as products utilizing these rates and credit-sensitive rates are reviewed by
the CFTC, the agency would evaluate them to ensure they are consistent with these principles.
Director Chopra stated that following the global financial crisis, the public learned that several
global financial institutions had conspired to rig LIBOR. He noted that some of these institutions
would later admit to criminal misconduct and pay billions of dollars in penalties. He said that for
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years, the interest rate that underpinned hundreds of trillions of dollars of financial contracts,
including many of the adjustable-rate mortgages that harmed homeowners across the country in
the 2008 crisis, was fraudulent. He said that the CFPB had worked alongside other agencies to
support the ARRC in its efforts to transition financial markets away from this faulty rate, by
providing analysis on the interplay between LIBOR and any successor reference rate on
consumers and on consumer finance markets more broadly. He said that the CFPB had issued
rules and guidance for industry to implement the transition of these consumer financial products,
including in the nonbank sector, away from LIBOR. He stated that the CFPB had published
information to help consumers understand and prepare for the transition and had updated its
Consumer Handbook on Adjustable-Rate Mortgages. He said the criminal manipulation of
LIBOR by financial institutions had been extremely costly. He said that the CFPB would
continue working to ensure that companies complete an orderly transition away from LIBOR.
Noting that financial history repeats itself, he said that policymakers must guard against the
emergence of future reference rates that could be exploited by bad actors.
3. Resolution Approving the Minutes of the Meeting Held on June 16, 2023
BE IT RESOLVED, by the Financial Stability Oversight Council (Council), that the minutes
attached hereto of the meeting held on June 16, 2023 of the Council are hereby approved.
The Chairperson asked for a motion to approve the resolution, which was made and seconded.
The Council approved the resolution by unanimous vote.
The Chairperson adjourned the meeting at approximately 12:12 P.M.

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