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A meeting of the Executive Committee (interim) of the Board of
GOVernors

of the Federal Reserve System was held in Tashington on

Saturday, September 7, 1935, at 11:50 a. m.
PRESENT:

Mr. Thomas, Vice Chairman
Mr. James
Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary

The Committee acted on the following matters:
Letter dated September 5, 1935, from Mr. Kimball, Assistant
Secretary of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, telegrams dated September 5 from Messrs. McAdams and Sargent, Secretaries of the Federal Reserve
Banks of Kansas City and San Francisco, respectively, and telegrams dated
September 6 from
Mr. Strater, Secretary of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Cleveland,
and Messrs. Hoxton and Stevens, Chairmen of the Federal Reserve
Banks of Richmond and Chicago, respectively, all advising of the establishment by their
banks without change on the dates stated of the rates of discount and purchase
in their existing schedules.
Without objection, noted with approval.
Letter dated September 4, 1935, from Mr. Joseph S. Crowder tendering
his

resignation as a messenger in the Board's Telegraph Office, to be

efrective as of the close of business on September 9, 1935.
Accepted.
Letter dated September 6, 1935, approved by three members of the
Board, to the board of directors of the "First State Bank of Valparaiso",
ValParaiso, Indiana, stating thr-t, subject to the conditions prescribed in
the letter, the Board approves the bank's application for membership in the




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Federal Reserve System and for the appropriate amount of stock of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Chicago.
Approved unanimously, together with a letter
to Mr. Stevens, Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, also approved by
three members of the Board, and reading as follows:
"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
approves the application of the 'First State Bank of Valparaiso',
Valparaiso, Indiana, for membership in the Federal Reserve
System, subject to the conditions prescribed in the inclosed
letter which you are requested to forward to the board of directors of the institution. Two copies of such letter are also
inclosed, one of which is for your files and the other of which
you are requested to forward to the Commissioner of Banking for
tne State of Indiana for his information.
"In accordance with the recommendation contained in Mr.
Young's letter of July 16, 1935, the Board has not prescribed
the condition of membership originally recommended by the
Reserve Bank Committee that, prior to admission to membership,
the bank acquire title to, and carry as other real estate,
certain properties which were carried in loans and discounts.
It is understood that the largest property has been transferred
to other real estate account, that others are in the process
of adjustment, and that within a reasonable time your office
see that proper adjustment of such loans be made.
"It has been noted that the State laws of Indiana prohibit
the bank from pledging its assets as security for trust funds
deposited in its banking department and that trust funds so
deposited are preferred claims in event of liquidation of the
bank. Standard condition of membership number 18, however, has
been prescribed in order thet its provisions may be invoked at
any time in the future if necessary. You are, of course, authorized to waive compliance with the condition until further
notice in accordance with the general authorization contained
in the Board's letter of March 8, 1935, with particular reference to The Merchants Trust and Savings Company, Muncie, Indiana.
"It has been noted that the reports and statements of the
First State Bank of Valparaiso do not reflect the full amount of
the bank's outstanding common stock and capital debentures sold
to the Reconstruction Finance Corporation but do reflect a
nominal surplus. In this connection, as you know, the bank will
be required, if it becomes a member of the System, to make and
publish reports in the form prescribed by the Board for other
State member banks under the provisions of section 9 of the Federal Reserve Act. Accordingly, in order to avoid any misunder-




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"Standing, it is suggested that you call to the attention of the
bank the form of report now required by the Board under the provisions of section 9 of the Federal Reserve Act (Form 105). In
this connection, your attention is also called to
a statement of
the Board's views relating to reports and publish
ed statements
of member banks containe
d in its letter to all Federal Reserve
Agents of April 21, 1934 (X-7868).
"The bank's application for Federal reserve bank stock has
been based on capital stock and debentures of $100,00
0 and surplus
of ;27,000. However
, as you know, the bank has outstanding
4,
capital stock and debentures amounti
ng in the aggregate to
N 150,0001 and its sound assets, after allowing for liabilities
to depositors and
other creditors, are not adequate to offset
the bank's liabilities to stockho
lders and holders of debentures.
Accordingly, the surplus account shown on the bank's books does
not actually reflect any assets.
Under the provisions of the
Federal Reserve Act, a member bank or a bank applying for membersnIP is required to subscribe to Federal reserve bank stock on
the basis of its paid-up capital stock and
surplus, and, under
the provisions of section 9 of
the Act, capital debentures sold
to the Reconstruction Finance
Corporation are, for the purposes
of membership, included
within the term 'capital stock'. In the
circumstances, the Board feels that the First State Bank of
Valparaiso should subscribe for Federal reserve bank stock on
the basis of its outstanding capital
stock and debentures but is
not entitled to subscrib
e for Federal reserve bank stock on the
basis of the aurolus account shorn by its books. Accordingly,
Prior to issuance of any stock to the bank, you should obtain
a supplemental application on F.R.B. Form 55 for the
number of
shares required to increase the bank's subscription in the
appropriate amount on the basis of $150,000 of stock and
debentures.
"In connection with the expression of the Board's views
contained in the letter to the First State Bank of Valparaiso
relating to adjustment of its capital accounts, the Board's
attention has been directed to the advice received from your
Office that, in circumstances such as those involved in the case
Of the First
State Bank of Valparaiso, the State banking authorities of Indiana will not permit the payment of dividends on
common stock so long as the bank's capital, including capital
debentures, is not represented by an equivalent amount of sound
assets.”
Letter dated September 6, 1935, approved by two members of the
Board, to Mr. Clark, Assistant Federal Reserve Agent
at the Federal Reserve Bank of
AtThnta, reading as follows:




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"Reference is made to your letter of August 19, 1935, with
inclosure, replying to the Board's letter of August 13, 1935,
regarding compliance by the 'Union Trust Company', St. Petersburg, Florida, with condition of membership numbered 21 which
reads as follows:
'Within six months after the admission of such bank
to membership, the 422 shares of its own stock held
by trustees as security to certain loans made by such
bank in accordance with the terms of an agreement
dated January 16, 1932, shall be disposed of at an
equitable price and the proceeds applied in accordance
with the terms of such agreement.'
"It has been noted that, notwithstanding the fact that the
bank has sustained a loss in the compromise settlement of one of
tae notes covered by the agreement, the agreement has been
terminated and the 422 shares returned to Mr. Brophy, who is
chairman of the board of directors of the bank. It has been
noted, also, that Mr. Brophy had given notice that, if the
trustees should attempt to sell the stock, he would contest the
validity of the agreement on the grounds that, in declining to
grant an additional loan of $8,000, the bank had failed to comply
with the terms of the agreement and that the Eureka Investment
Company, his personal company, had not received any direct benefit from the additional loans granted the company in order to
enable Mr. Brophy to satisfy a personal judgment against him.
You state that, while in your opinion the bank has not complied
literally with the terms of the condition, you feel that the
compromise settlement avoided what might have been an unpleasant
controversy and effected an advantageous disposition of an
Undesirable asset. In view of all of the circumstances, you
have recoamended, as have the officers of the Reserve Bank, that
no question be raised as to compliance with the condition of
membership.
"While the Board feels that the propriety of the settlement
effected in connection with the pledge agreement is open to
question, in vier- of all the circumstances involved and your
favorable recommendation, no action affecting the membership of
the bank will be taken in the matter.
"The report of examination of the bank made as of December
3, 1934, by one of your examiners, contains comments which refleet upon the value of Mr. Brophy's influence on the bank, and
it has been noted that, follovang a subsequent examination, the
State banking authorities raised a question as to whether the
salary paid Mr. Brophy as chairman of the board, and which had
recently been increased, is warranted by the services rendered.
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"With particular reference to Mr. Brophy's relations with and
influence on the bank, and that, in transmitting the report
to the Board, you will advise as to whether, in your opinion,
such relationship is to the best interests of the bank, and if
not, what steps appear to be desirable in the circumstances."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. G. H. Bangert, President, First National Bank,
Kenmore

New York, reading as follows:

"This refers to your letter dated September 5, 1955 regarding Federal Reserve Bank of New York Circular No. 1585
relating to the rate of interest which may lawfully be paid
by member banks in New York on time and savings deposits
after October 1, 1955.
"You raise the question whether, in view of the fact that
the Postal Savings System is now receiving interest at the
rate of 4- per cent per annum, you can consider the arrangement vdth the Postal Savings System as an 'existing contract'
which would be exempted from the ruling incorporated in
Circular No. 1583.
"The last paragraph of such circianr states that the
Board will not object to the payment of interest by a national
bank at a rate greater than 2 per cent per annum in accordance
With the terms of, and until the termination of, any contract
existing on the date on which such bank receives the notice
of the limitations effective after October 1, 1935, provided
such rate is otherwise in conformity with the provisions of
Regulation Q land the contract is terminated as soon as
possible under the terms thereof'.
"It is the underAanding of the Board that deposits of
Postal Savings funds may be relinquished by depository banks
on the first day of any of the twelve periods into which the
Year is divided in the regulations of the Postal Savings Systm
relating to the deposit of Postal Savings funds in banks.
"Accordingly, it appears that since such deposits may be
relinquished and the contract terminated on October 1, 1955,
Your bank may not continue to pay a rate in excess of 2 per
cent per annum on such deposits after October 1, 1935.
"If you have any further questions regarding this matter
or any similar matter, it will be appreciated if you will
communicete with the Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve
Bank of New York."




Approved unanimously.

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-6Letter to Mr. William R. White, Deputy Superintendent, Banking

Department, New York, New York, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of August 30 in which you
su,
:jest that the Board of Governors o the Federal Reserve
System under authority of section 341 of the Banking Act of
1935 reduce to 2 per cent the rate of interest payable upon
Postal Savings funds by banks located in the State of New
York. Apparently, you have reference to the portion of the
law as amended, which reads as follows: 'Notwithstanding any
other provision of law * * * Postal Savings depositories may
deposit funds on time in member banks of the Federal Reserve
System subject to the provisions of the Federal Reserve Act,
as amended, and the regulations of the Board of Governors of
the Federal Reserve System, with respect to the payment of
time deposits and interest thereon'.
"As you know, Regulation Q (which is now in process of
revision to conform to changes made in the law by the Banking
Act of 1935) contains the rules and regulations which the
Board has prescribed with respect to the payment of time
deposits and interest thereon by member banks of the Federal
Reserve System. In response to inquiries, the Board has
recently stated that it has been advised that the Banking
Board of the State of New York has interpreted its Resolution
No. 200 as applying to Postal Savings deposits as well as to
Other time and savings deposits and, accordingly, that it is
the view of the Board that deposits of Postal Savings funds
In member banks in New York are subject to the reduced maximun
rate of interest of 2 per cent per annum after October 1, 1935,
to the same extent as other time and savings deposits. A copy
of a letter which was sent by the Board to a national bank in
New York on the subject is inclosed for your information. It
would appear, therefore, that the reduction which you suggest
in the rate payable upon deposits of Postal Savings funds by
member banks in New York has already been accomplished. The
Board of Governors, o: course, has no authority to require
that Postal Savings funds be deposited in any particular bank
or banks, and the question whether Postal Savings funds will be
permitted to continue on deposit :ith banks at the reduced
maximum rate of 2 per cent per annum is not one within the
Jurisdiction of the Board but would appear to be one for consideration of the Board of Trustees of the Postal Savings System."




Approved unanimously.

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-7Letter dated September 6, 1955, approved by two members of the

Board, to Mr. O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency, reading as follows:
"There is inclosed a copy of a telegram dated September
3, 1935, from Assistant Federal Reserve Agent Hill at the
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, inquiring whether State
banking authorities are authorized to examine the books,
records, and assets of the trust departments of national banking associations which possess fiduciary powers in view of the
amendment to the third paragraph of section 11(k) of the Federal Reserve Act made by section 342 of the Banking Act of 1935.
There is also inclosed a copy of the reply which the Board proposes to make to Ir. Hill's telegram.
"It seems apparent that, under the amendment to section
11(k) contained in the Banking Act of 1935, State banking
authorities are no longer authorized to examine the books,
records, and assets of trust departments of national banks, but,
before transmitting the proposed reply, advice as to whether you
concur in the views expressed in the attached letter would be
appreciated since the question involves national banking associations."
Approved unanimously, together with the proposed letter to Mr. Austin, Federal Reserve Agent
at the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, referred to in the letter to Mr. O'Connor, also
approved by two members of the Board, and reading
as follows:
"Mr. Hill's telegram of September 3, 1935, asks whether
State banking authorities are authorized to examine the books,
records, and assets of the trust departments of national banks
which possess fiduciary powers in view of the amendment to the
third paragraph of section 11(k) of the Federal Reserve Act
made by section 342 of the Banking Act of 1935.
"Prior to the enactment of the Banking Act of 1935, the
Paragraph in question provided that the books and records of
national banks relating to their fiduciary business should be
Open to inspection by the State authorities to the same extent
as the books and records of corporations organized under State
law which exercise fiduciary powers, but the provision of
section 11(k) relating to this matter has been amended to
provide as follows:
'The State banking authorities may have access to
reports of examination made by the Comptroller of




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"'the Currency insofar as such reports relate to
the trust department of such bank, but nothing
in this Act shall be construed as authorizing the
State banking authorities to examine the books,
records, and assets of such bank.'
"In the circumstances, it is clear that State banking authorities are not authorized to examine the books, records, and
assets of the trust departments of national banks which possess
fiduciary powers."
Memorandum dated September 4, 1935, from Mr. Van Fossen, Assistant
Chief, Division of Bank Operations, stating that information had just been
received that the Comptroller's office would amend Schedule F in the form
of condition
report to be used by national banks on the next call by
Changing item 1(a) of the schedule to read "Treasury Bonds, 2 7/8% of
1955-60" instead of "Fourth Liberty loan bonds", and by changing item
1(b) to read "Treasury bonds, other" instead
of "Treasury bonds"; that
these changes
were being made at the request of Under Secretary of the
Treasury Coolidge,
in view of the fact that the Treasury anticipates
that Fourth
Liberty loan bonds now outstanding will be converted on
September 16
into the 2 3/4% Treasury bonds or li% Treasury notes offered
by the Treasury
on September 5, 1935; and that it is understood Mr.
Coolide is interested in learning the extent to which the banks hold the
2 7/8% Treasury bonds of 1955-60. The memorandum also stated that Mr.
Coolidge
had suggested by telephone that similar changes be made in the
8°ard t s Form 105, to be used by State bank members in submitting their
condition reports on the next call; that it was assumed that, in accord4"
/1
with

past practice, the Board would wish to have Schedule F of its

Pc3I
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office in the national bank form; and that it was recommended that the
Board authorize such changes.
The proposed changes in Form 105 were
approved unanimously.
Telegram dated September 6, 1935, approved by three members of
the Board, to
Mr. Stevens, Federal Reserve Agent Lt the Federal Reserve
Bank of
Chicago, reading as follows:
"Retel September 4. Balances due from private banks were
intentionally included in Trans. 2301 as items which are not
Proper deductions from gross demand deposits in computing
net demand deposits subject to reserve requirements under
section 19 of Federal Reserve Act as amended by section 324
Banking Act of 1935 on basis of ruling referred to in
Bulletin for February 1935 at page 108 in which Board ruled
specifically that word 'banks' as used in phrase 'the net
dvTerence of amounts due to and from other banks' in section
19 as it then read did not include private bankers or private
banking firms."
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated September 4, 1935, from Mr. Van Fossen, Assistant
Chief, Division of Bank Operations, recommending approval of the follovIng changes in the inter-district time schedule for cash items, which had
been requested by the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis and approved by
the other
Federal reserve banks affected. The recommendation was approved
by
three members of the Board on September 6, 1935:
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Minneapolis




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Approved unanimously.

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-10Letter eated September 6, 1935, approved by three members of the

Board, to Mr. Guy T. Levis, Assistant Trust Officer, Allegheny Trust
Corapearr,

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, reading as follows:

"This refers to your letter dated August 7, 1935 requesting a ruling as to the negotiability and the eligibility
for rediscount by a Federal Reserve bank of certain collateral
trust notes issued by the Ruffsdale Distilling Company, Braddock,
Pennsylvania under a trust indenture naming the Allegheny
Trust Company as trustee. Inclosed with your letter was a copy
of an opinion of Squire, Sanders and Dempsey, attorneys for the
FederEl Reserve Bank of Cleveland, to the effect that the notes
are non-negotiable and a copy of an opinion of Reed, Smith,
Shaw end McClay, attorneys for the Allegheny Trust Company, to
the e 'feet that the notes are negotiable. Also inclosed with
Your letter was a copy of the printed trust indenture under
which the notes were issued.
"As you know, the Board has provided in its Regulation A
that a note must be negotiable in order to be eligible for rediscount at a Federal Reserve bank. In section IV(a) of such
regulation the Board has defined a promissory note to be 'an
I.Inconditional promise, in writing, signed by the maker, to pay,
in the United States, at a fixed or determinable future time,
' .sum certain in dollars to order or to bearer'. This definition substantially incorporates the requirements for a
negotiable note as set forth in the Negotiable Instruments
Law. nether or not a given instrument conforms to these requirements altd is negotiable, however, depends upon the
construction of the particular local law applicable thereto.
In view of this fact, it is the opinion of the Board that the
Federal Reserve bank which is called upon to rediscount a
particular form of note should pass upon the question whether
it complies with the Board's requirements.
"You state in your letter that you believe that the same
reference to the trust indenture which is contained in the
Ruffsdale Distilling Company notes is contained in many hundreds
of millions of corporate bonds now in the hands of member banks
and for this reason the question as to the negotiability of
these notes is more important than it would otherwise be. However, it is believed that not many of such corporate bonds
17ould be eligible for rediscount by Federal Reserve banks
because they do not arise out of actual commercial transactions
and because they have long maturities. Furthermore, it appears
that the question of negotiability would depend upon the
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"jurisdiction
"The Board feels that since this question is primarily
one of local law and since the final determination as to
whether the instrument should be rediscounted rests with the
Federal Reserve bank, the question as to whether a particular
instrument is negotiable, in considering its eligibility for
rediscount, should be decided by the Federal Reserve bank
With the assistance of its counsel. In the circumstances,
the Board does not feel that it should undertake to pass upon
the negotiability of the notes in question.
. "In view of the fact that your letter to the Board on
this s-abject was written prior to August 23, 1935, the date
Of the enactment of the Banking Act of 1935, it seems appropriate to invite your attention to section 204 of that Act which
reads as follows:
'Sec. 204. Section 10 (b) of the Federal Reserve
Act, as amended, is amended to read as follows:
"Sec. 10 (b). Any Federal Reserve bank, under
rules and regulations prescribed by the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve System, may make advances to any member bank on its time or demand notes
having maturities of not more than four months and
which are secured to the satisfaction of such Federal
Reserve bank. Each such note shall bear interest at
a rate not less than one-half of 1 per centum per
annum higher than the highest discount rate in effect
at such Federal Reserve bank on the date of such note."
The regulations to be prescribed by the Board pursuant to this
provision of the law are now in the course of preparation."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Griggs, Managing Director of the Pittsburgh Branch
Of the Federal
Reserve Bank of Cleveland, reading as follows:
"Please advise Peoples Pittsburgh Trust Company as follows:
'Referring your telegram September 3 Board has not considered
negotiability of notes of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
but recently considered an inquiry as to negotiability of
notes of a certain company engaged in the sale of liquor to
the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. This inquiry arose in
connection with the eligibility of such notes for rediscount
at Federal Reserve banks but the Board expressed no opinion
!Is to the negotiability of such notes. Inasmuch as question
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"'whether an instrument should be rediscounted rests with the
Federal Reserve bank, the Botrd stated that question of
negotiability should be decided by the Reserve bank with the
assistance of its counsel. In this connection, however,
attention is invited to section 204 of Banking Act of 1935
under which regulations are now in course of preparation by
Board. If you desire any further information with respect
to the matter it is suggested that you communicate with the
Federal Reserve Agent at Cleveland.'"
Approved unanimously.
Letter dated September 6, 1935, approved by three members of the
Board, to Mr. W. H. Plant, Vice President, Linderman, Carter and Plant,
Inc., New York, New York, reading as follows:
"Referring to your letter of August 30, requesting
that the total amount of debits reported for the 141 cities
and New York City and any revisions in the previous week's
figures be telephoned to you each week as soon as they become
available, I regret that we are unable to comply with this
request for the reasons stated in our letter of August 27
regarding the telegraphing of such information, but we have
arranged to send the statements to you by special delivery
beginning lith last week. It is assumed that, if you desire
this service continued regularly, you will furnish us with
a supply of special delivery stamps from time to time.
"In this connection, you may be able to arrange with
some local agency, as, for examnle, a telegraph company, to
Obtain and Are the desired figures to you upon their release at the Board's offices."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram dated September 6, 1935, approved by three members of

he Board, to the Federal reserve agents at all Federal reserve banks,
reading as follows:
"TRANS. NO. 2304. Since Banking Act of 1935 amended subsection (d) of section 14 of Federal Reserve Act by adding
at the end thereof the words 'but each such bank shall establish such rates every fourteen days, or oftener if deemed
necessary by the Board', the definition of code word 'MARSOON1




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"has been changed effective immediately from 'no change in
existing schedule of rates' to 'Federal reserve bank has
today established without change the rates of discount and
Purchase in existing schedule'. New definition should be
inserted in Federal Reserve Telegraph Code Book."
Approved unanimously.
Letter dated September 51 19351 approved by three members of the
Board, to Miss Ida
M. Looney, New Orleans, Louisiana, reading as follows:
"Receipt is acknowledged of your letter of August 281
1935, regarding certain indebtedness of an employee of .a
Federal reserve bank.
"In the absence of a complete statement setting forth
all of the facts and circumstances involved, the Board
cannot undertake to give the matter consideration. Moreover,
the subject discussed in your letter appears to be one
Primarily for consideration by the Federal reserve bank concerned."
Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary.
Approved: