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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYstem was held in Washington on Tuesday, September 29, 1936, at 12:00
o'clock noon.
PRESENT: Mr. Ransom, Vice Chairman
Mr. Broderick
Mr. Szymczak
Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the
Division of Research and Statistics
Mr. Gardner, Research Assistant in the
Division of Research and Statistics
Mr. Ransom reported that Secretary Morgenthau had telephoned
him this morning and indicated that he would like to meet with the
B°.ard at 12:00 o'clock noon today, and that he (Mr. Ransom) had therefore called
the meeting Primarily for the purpose of receiving the
Secretary of the Treasury.
There was some discussion relative to the foreign situation
and at
12:10 p.m. Secretary Morgenthau, together with 'Tessrs. Cyril B.
tfphea
Y Assistant to the Secretary and Archie Lochhead, Technical Assistant, entered the meeting.

Secretary Morgenthau advised the Board

I'elative to developments leading up to the monetary understanding between the United States, Great Britain and France which had been made
Pliblie on September 25, 1936, and at the conclusion of the discussion
he alid
his assistants withdrew from the meeting at 12:45 p.m.




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-PThere was brought to the attention of the members of the Board

a letter dated September 28, 1936, from Mr. Sproul, First Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, advising that 7r. E. H.
D. Skinner, Assistant to the Governors of the Bank of England, had
called at the New York bank on that date, hut that his visit to the
hank had been purely a courtesy call upon certain officers of the bank
Whom he had previously met in London.
Mr. Sproul's letter was noted without
comment.
Mr. Szymczak inquired whether the members of the Board had reviewed the files concerning individuals suggested for consideration
in filling existing vacancies in branch directorates of Federal reserve
banks, which had been circulated following the action taken by the
&18-rd at a meeting on September 18, 1936.
There follomed a discussion of the
difficulties involved in finding men
suitable for appointment as branch directors and it was unanimously agreed that
the Personnel Committee, consisting of
Vice Chairman Ransom, in the absence of
the Chairmen, Mr. Szymczak and Mr. Broderick, would meet at 11:00 a.m. on Friday,
October 2, 1936, for the purpose of considering the problem.
Mr. Ransom presented a draft of letter to the Presidents of
all

Federal reserve banks, together with a memorandum from Mr. Vest,

4ss1stant General Counsel, dated September 17, 1936, relative to the
question whether Federal reserve banks should receive on deposit from
member banks deposits of trust funds of such member banks awaiting inliestment or distribution.




Mr. Ransom stated that he had requested that

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the matter be placed on the docket, after having been circulated to
the members of the Board, for consideration at a meeting as he thought
it would be helpful to have the benefit of a discussion on the subject
before reaching a final decision.
Mr. Vest stated in his memorandum that the matter was considered
by the Governors' Conference in October 1935, and the Governors voted
eight to four in favor of receiving such deposits, but that a letter
was sent to the Federal reserve banks in April of this year requesting
copies of opinions or memoranda prepared in the respective banks with
regard to the subject and that it appears from the replies which have
n°w been received that at least nine of the banks are unfavorable to
accePting deposits of uninvested trust funds of member banks.

The memo-

Um pointed out numerous advantages and disadvantages from the standPoint of the reserve banks and stated that, in all the circumstances,
it was recommended that the Board write a letter to the Federal reserve
ba

indicating that the Board will offer no objection to the receipt

c3f deposits of uninvested trust funds subject to proper safeguards when
Special circumstances a Federal reserve bank may feel that it is d
sirable to render the service for a temporary period to particular
MeMber

banks.




At the conclusion of a discussion
the Board, by unanimous vote, approved
the following letter to the Presidents of
all Federal reserve banks:

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"As will be recalled, the conference of Governors of
Federal Reserve banks on October 23, 1935, discussed the
matter of the acceptance of deposits of uninvested trust
funds from member banks by Federal Reserve banks, and the
conference expressed itself as favoring such a practice,
With four of the Governors voting in the negative. Replies
Which have been received to the Board's letter of April 15,
1936, on this subject, however, show that the large majority
of the Federal Reserve banks are unfavorably disposed toward
tae acceptance of uninvested trust funds on deposit from member banks.
"While some member banks would derive benefit from the
Privilege of depositing uninvested trust funds with Federal
Reserve banks in that they would have a safe depositary and
would not be required to pledge securities for funds so dePosited, it does not appear that any large number of member
banks have expressed a desire for this service. It is doubtful whether the receipt of such deposits can be said to fall
Within the scope of the purposes for which the Federal Reserve banks were established and it is believed that the acceptance of such deposits would, in addition to the extra
work which would be entailed, subject the Federal Reserve
banks to annoying complications and possible legal liabilities, against some of which, at least, adequate precautions
could not be taken.
"The Board of Governors has given consideration to the
matter in the light of the views expressed by the Federal
Reserve banks and feels that it is not desirable that Federal Reserve banks engage as a general practice in receivlng uninvested trust funds on deposit from member banks.
However, in view of the fact that in the Board's judgment
it cannot be said that Federal Reserve banks are without the
legal authority to accept such deposits, and since two or
three of the Federal Reserve banks are desirous of performing the service in some circumstances, the Board for the
Present will offer no objection to the receipt of deposits
01* uninvested trust funds in a special account when in the
Judgment of the Federal Reserve bank special circumstances
render such service to a particular member bank desirable
or a temporary period. Any such account which is established,
however, should have constant attention and should be discontinued as soon as the special circumstances justifying
the account are eliminated. In opening any such account an
agreement between the Federal Reserve bank and the member
bank should be carefully prepared with the assistance of
counsel for the Federal Reserve bank, and such other precautions as may seem necessary should be taken to minimize

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"the possibility of litigation or loss to the Federal Reserve
bank. It would seem that the opening of a separate account
for each trust estate whose funds are deposited with the Reserve bank, in lieu of one account for the receipt of all uninvested trust funds deposited by a particular member bank,
would be so burdensome to a Federal Reserve bank as to be impracticable.
"While the action of the Governors' conference in October
1935 contemplated that transactions in an account in which
trust funds are received would be confined to transfers to
and from the reserve account of the member bank, it is believed that this practice would involve a commingling of the
funds of the fiduciary with trust funds, which would be objectionable both from the standpoint of the fiduciary and
the Federal Reserve bank, with possible ensuing liabilities.
For this reason, it is suggested that, in any case in which
a Federal Reserve bank feels it necessary to establish an account of this kind, transactions between the trust account
and the reserve account be not permitted but that some other
method of effecting deposits in and withdrawals from the account be followed.
"It should be understood, of course, that deposits of
funds received by a member bank in a fiduciary capacity and
deposited with a Federal Reserve bank in such an account may
not be counted as a part of the member bank's reserve balance
with the Federal Reserve bank.
"The action of the Governors' conference in October 1935
aPpears to contemplate the possibility of a Federal Reserve
bank's receiving trust funds awaiting investment or distribution not only from a member bank but also from a trust comPanY engaged exclusively in conducting a trust business and
owned by a member bank. It is the view of the Board that
the receipt by a Federal Reserve bank of uninvested trust
funds from a nonmember institution would not be legally authorized.
"There is inclosed herewith for your information a copy
of a memorandum prepared in the office of the Board's counsel regarding this matter, together with a summary of views
expressed by the Federal Reserve banks in their letters rePlying to the Board's letter of April 15, 1936, on this subJect.fl
Consideration was then given to a memorandum dated September
3,

96, from Mr. Owens, Assistant Counsel, which stated that in con-

Ilection with the consideration of the proposal of Mr. Thomas, Assistant




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Director of the Division of Research and Statistics, to change the
form of the table in the Federal Reserve Bulletin showing the maturity
d
istribution of the bills end securities held by the Federal reserve
banks, counsel had been requested to furnish an opinion upon the question whether the table showing the maturity distribution of bills and
securities in
the weekly statement of condition of the Federal reserve
banks complies with the requirements of section 11(a) of the Federal
Reserve Act.

Mr. Owens stated in the memorandum that in his opinion

it was Very questionable whether the table showing the maturity distribution of bills and securities in the weekly statement complies with
the

squirements of section 11(a) that "full information" be furnished

Ilegarding "the amount, nature and maturities" of the paper and other
estments of the Federal reserve banks, and that, accordingly, it
iS

Suggst

that tables similar to those proposed by Mr. Thomas for

inclusion in the Federal Reserve Bulletin be included in the weekly
statement
of condition of the Federal reserve banks in order to remove
the
question whether the present statement of condition meets the requirements of the law.

It was stated further in the memorandum that,

in Mr. Owens,
opinion, such tables would, under existing circumstances,
om,
1
y-4:i with the requirements of section 11(a), but that, since there is
11° Provision of law relating to the Federal Reserve Bulletin, it apPears that no legal question is presented by Mr. Thomas' proposal to
eh4nge the form of the table in the Bulletin.




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It was pointed out that Mr. Thomas' proposal to include two
new tables in the Federal Reserve Bulletin had been considered by the
Board on August 27, 1936, and that it was agreed unanimously to defer
action thereon until a meeting of the Board at which Mr. McKee was in
attendance.
After a discussion the Board, by
unanimous vote, approved the proposal contained in Mr. Thomas' memorandum of August
18, 1936, that a change be made in the
table shown in the Federal Reserve Bulletin on maturity distribution of bills
and securities held by Federal reserve
banks, on which action had been deferred at a meeting on August 27, 1936,
and also approved the opinion contained
in Mr. Owens? memorandum of September
3, 1936, with the understanding, however,
that both of these memoranda would be
submitted to Mr. McKee upon his return to
Washington and that his approval would
be obtained before the Board's action in
these matters would become effective.
Mr. Morrill stated that recently Mr. Otis T. Wingo, Executive
Secretary of the National Institute of Public Affairs, had called upon
him and explained the work of the Institute in selecting college graduates and placing them in departments and establishments of the GovernOn a non-salaried basis.

He said that the board of trustees of

he Institute consisted of Messrs. Louis Brownlow, President, John
4ckinson, Eugene Meyer, Edward R. Murroul Henry L. Stimson and William
E. Sweet, and that the entire purpose of the Institute's Federal Government

internship training program is to attract to the field of public




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service in America a limited number of outstanding young college graduates.

Mr. Morrill then read substantially all of the printed announce-

ment issued by the National Institute of Public Affairs in January 1933,
regarding graduate scholarships, a copy of which has been placed in the
Board's files.
Mr. Morrill stated that Mr. Wingo had advised him that eightythree interns had been trained since 1934; that from one thousand young
People who wished to apply, and the three hundred of that number whom
the colleges approved, the National Institute had selected thirty interns for this coming year's training; that the internships were arranged
Where the interest of the individual interns lie; that interns become
as Iaried assistants to the governmental officials to whom they are
attached
-- subject to all employee discipline, rules, and regulations;
that all of their work and activities with the official agency concerned
can) if requested, be kept by them strictly confidential; and that the
°n1Y reports the Institute would require in such confidential cases is
word from time to time from the official concerned as to whether the intern's work is satisfactory.
been
had

Mr. Morrill stated further that he had

advised that a number of other government departments and agencies
ooperated with the National Institute and had young men attached

t° their staffs.

He referred to the fact that Mr. Wm. H. McReynolds,

Acilili nistrative Assistant to the Secretary of the Treasury, had a young




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man selected
Selected by the National Institute in his office, that Mr. W. T.
Stockberger, Director of Personnel of the Department of Agriculture,
had an intern assisting him, that two or three such students were attached to the Civil Service Commission, and that others had been placed
in the Department of Commerce, the Social Security Board and other
branches of the Government.

Mr. Morrill indicated that he was person-

811Y acquainted with Messrs. McReynolds and Stockberger and had therefore discussed the activities of the National Institute with them.
They had both advised him, he said, that the young men assigned to
their offices were making excellent progress and it was likely that
they would wish later on to give them a permanent salaried status in
their respective organizations.

He added that he had not checked with

Other Government organizations because he felt that both of these men
IlQuld be entirely frank in their discussions with him and that their
exPerience was probably sufficiently indicative of the success of the
Nati°nal Institute's undertaking to make further investigation unnecessar7.
Mr. Morrill stated that Mr. Wingo had called on him a week ago
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brought with him a young man, Mr. Robert D. Fenn, whom the Institute

Proposed would serve as intern in the Board's organization.

He said

that) Mr. Fenn was 22 years of age, that his home was in Meriden, Conthat he received a B.A. degree from Amherst College in 1936,
was awarded Phi Beta Kappa in his junior year, was president of his
elaas and captain of the football team in his senior year, and that




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he was considered by the professors to whom the Institute
addressed
inquiries as coming within the top one per cent of all students they
had known. Mr. Wing°, he said, had advised him that Mr. Fenn's
studies
background emphasized economics, particularly money, banking, and public finance; and that in connection with his political science work
he also made an independent study one semester of all the government
"t8 since the advent of the depression for the relief and reform of
banking and of credit.

Mr. Morrill stated that he was very favorably

impressed by Mr.
Fenn's appearance and personality.
In response to an inquiry by Mr. Ransom, Mr. Morrill stated
that the National Institute of Public Affairs was privately financed
but received substantial support from the Rockefeller Foundation.

He

said that he had been informed that
interns are expected to finance
them
selves and pay their own living expenses just as though they were
attsndi-tig college.
Mr. Goldenweiser stated, in response to an inquiry from Mr.
8roderick as
to whether he might utilize the services of Mr. Fenn in
the Division of Research and Statistics, that he felt it would not
be advisable.

He added that his office had made some inquiries since

the matter had been brought to his
attention by Mr. Morrill and that
he had been advised that the experience of other departments in some
illetancss had been that dissatisfaction was created among the regular
ealP1°Yess of the organization and in other instances the intern himself




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had been dissatisfied because he was either not
making as rapid progress
as he had anticipated or felt that he was performing work as satisfactorily as salaried employees although he was receiving no compensation.
Mr. Goldenweiser also said that he questioned the advisability of placirlg an intern in the Board's organization because the person involved
would feel that he had a responsibility
to the National Institute as
well as to the Board. He stated thrlt he would be much more inclined,
in view of the fact that the Division was under-staffed, to recommend
that the Board employ the young man if, upon further investigation, he
f°und that his services could be utilized to advantage.
In response to a similar inquiry by Mr. Broderick, Mr. Morrill
said that he
was fully in accord with the objectives of the National
Institute and
that he regarded the matter of actually taking a young
rnan into the organization as involving purely practical consideration.
Mr* Goldenweiser concurred in this statement- Mr. Morrill added that
Mr.
Fern had also
expressed a desire to be connected with the SecretarY's office, but that there was no work in the Secretary's office to
which Mr. Fenn could be assigned where he thought an intern would feel

that he had sufficient latitude for development.




There was further discussion from which
it appeared that the Board agreed in principle with the program of the National Institute of Public Affairs but that it was
not prepared to place an unsalaried intern
in its organization. In this connection,

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-12however, the Board expressed a willingness to consider the employment at a
nominal salary of a student selected by
the National Institute, upon the recommendation of a division head, and it was
understood that Mr. Goldenweiser would
interview Mr. Fenn.
At this point Messrs. Thurston, Wyatt, Goldenweiser and Gardner

left the meeting and consideration was then given to each of the matters

hereinafter referred to and the action stated with respect thereto

was taken by the Board:
Telegram to Mr. Stewart, Secretary of the Federal Reserve Bank
°f St. Louis, stating that the Board approves the establishment without change by
the bank today of the rates of discount and purchase in
its

existing schedule.
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Gidney, Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of September 16, recommendthe appointment of Mr. Jere V. D. Stryker to serve as
assistant Federal Reserve agent, at his present salary of
t5,500 per annum, and Mr. Robert H. Phinney and Mr. Norman
C. Cooper to serve as alternate assistant Federal Reserve
agents, at their present salaries of 3,100 each, to be effective at the time of the transfer of the non-statutory
functions of the Federal Reserve agent to the bank.
"The Board approves your recommendations, with the understanding that Messrs. Stryker, Phinney and Cooper, now
employed in the Federal Reserve agent's department, will remain on the agent's payroll and be solely responsible to
or during a vacancy in the office of agent to the Board
of Governors, for the proper performance of their duties.




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"As indicated in the Board's letter of September 14, 19360
in discussing the duties of the assistant Federal Reserve
agent and alternates, there will be no objection on the
Part of the Board to Mr. Stryker's continuing to perform
functions for the bank during such time as he is not engaged
With his duties as assistant Federal Reserve agent, if satisfactory to the President of the bank.
"In approving persons to serve as assistant Federal
Reserve agents after the non-statutory duties of the Federal Reserve agent are transferred to the bank, the Board
has done so with the understanding that the work connected
With the issuance and retirement of Federal Reserve notes
would actual33, be handled by the assistant Federal Reserve
agent, and that alternate assistant Federal Reserve agents
would perform such duties only in the absence of the assistant Federal Reserve agent. In the case of your bank, however, the Board will, for the present, make an exception
to this requirement in view of the fact that there is at
present no Federal Reserve agent at your bank, and that the
responsibilities of an assistant Federal Reserve agent at
Your bank are somewhat greater than at any other Federal
Reserve bank as he holds in custody as agent for the Federal Reserve agents at the other Federal Reserve banks all
of the United States Government securities pledged with them
as collateral for Federal Reserve notes."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Fletcher, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
tank

of Cleveland, reading as follows:
"Retel September 24. Board has been informally advised
by a representative of the Department of Justice that such
Department has not ruled upon question whether a loan by a
bank under the provisions of Title II of the Federal Housing Act to an FDIC examiner or to other examiners referred
tO in section 22(a) of the Federal Reserve Act would be lawful. Board also understands that it is not the usual practice
of Department of Justice to render opinions upon questions
of this kind. If you have information regarding an actual
ease where loan under Title II of the Federal Housing Act
has been made to an FDIC examiner by a State member bank
v.fhlch may possibly involve a violation of section 22(a), it
Is suggested that you report facts to the local United States
Attorney and to the Board in the usual manner. If you have
information regarding an actual case in which national bank




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"or nonmember insured bank has made such a loan which may
Possibly involve a violation of such section, suggest you
report facts to chief national bank examiner in your district
or FDIC as case may be."
Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

App