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Minutes for September 24,_1964 To: Members of the Board From: Office of the Secretary Attached is a copy of the minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on the above date. It is not proposed to include a statement with respect to any of the entries in this set of minutes in the record of policy actions required to be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal Reserve Act. Should you have any question with regard to the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial below. If you were present at the meeting, your initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If you were not present, your initials will indicate only that you have seen the minutes. Chm. Martin Gov. Mills Gov. Robertson Gov. Balderston Gov. Shepardson Gov. Mitchell Gov. Daane 41.4)44,.? I4 C Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve SYstem on Thursday, September 24, 1964. The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m. PRESENT: Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Balderston, Vice Chairman Robertson Shepardson Mitchell Daane Mr. Sherman, Secretary Miss Carmichael, Assistant Secretary Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board Mr. Hackley, General Counsel Mr. Davis, Acting Director, Division of Data Processing Mr. Hexter, Assistant General Counsel Mr. Shay, Assistant General Counsel Mr. Holland, Associate Director, Division of Research and Statistics Mr. Conkling, Assistant Director, Division of Bank Operations Mr. Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division of Examinations Mr. Longhorn, Assistant Director, Division of Data Processing Mr. McClintock, Supervisory Review Examiner, Division of Examinations Mr. Sundberg, Review Examiner, Division of Examinations Discount rates. The establishment without change by the Federal lesezive Bank of Minneapolis on September 23, 1964, of the rates on diseowat s and advances in its existing schedule was approved unanimously, Vith the understanding that appropriate advice would be sent to that Report on competitive factors (Pottsville-New Philadelphia, Penja "•-,...i.N61 : 22.521i .±1. There had been distributed a draft of report to the P de al Deposit Insurance Corporation on the competitive factors 9/24/64 -2- Involved in the proposed merger of Silver Creek State Bank, New Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, into Union Bank and Trust Company, Pottsville, Pe nnsylvania. The conclusion in the report read as follows: Consummation of the proposed merger of Union Bank and Trust Company, Pottsville, and Silver Creek State Bank, New Philadelphia, would eliminate only nominal competition existing between the two banks and would not have adverse competitive effects on other banks operating in the area. The report was approved unanimously for transmittal to the Corporation. Report on competitive factors (Boise-Twin Falls, Idaho). There 44 been distributed a draft of report to the Comptroller of the Currency °4 the competitive factors involved in the proposed merger of First Security Bank of Twin Falls, Twin Falls, Idaho, into First Security Bank °I 'Idaho, National Association, Boise, Idaho. During discussion relating to the facts surrounding the proposed merger a change in the wording of the conclusion was agreed upon. The report was then approved unanimously for transmittal to the C0111Ptrol1er in a form in which the conclusion read as follows: First Security Bank of Idaho, National Association, Boise, a subsidiary of First Security Corporation, Salt Lake City, Utah, a registered bank holding company, and First Security Bank of Twin Falls have been very closely associated in ownership, management, and operations since the organization of First Security Bank of Twin Falls in 1959 by the principal officers of First Security Bank of Idaho, National Association, following denial Of an application by the latter bank to establish a branch in Twin Falls. The bank proposed to be acquired was created de novo, albeit indirectly, by the applicant bank and so the merger would not result in the permanent elimination from the market of a previously independent bank; therefore, while consummation of the proposal would make permanent the existing alliance between the two banks, it would not, under the circumstances, have adverse competitive effects. 9/24/64 -3Messrs. Shay, McClintock, and Sundberg then withdrew from the meeting. Request for call report data. There had been distributed a Memorandum from Messrs. Longhorn and Holland dated September 18, 1964, Narding a request from a group of academicians at the University of Illinois (Professors Donald R. Hodgman, Robert W. Gillespie, and Thomas A. Uncey) for cooperation in a study of commercial bank behavior that had been undertaken with support from the National Science Foundation and the Graduate College of the University of Illinois. The project would 14volve qualified access to call report data reported by member banks in Illinois for the period December 1959-June 1963. Attached to the memo- ' l e-rlaum was a statement from the Hodgman group describing the proposed study. The Divisions of Research and Statistics and Data Processing ' lecommended that the proposal as outlined be approved for the following reasons: (1) It was believed that the successful completion of the 1)°,Ject would be of particular interest to the Board and its staff, the BtudY being one that the staff would have liked to undertake if resources Pel'Mitted; (2) the study was under the direction of men of recognized c°111Petence who had already devoted many months to planning and programming 4ctivities necessary to insure the completion of the project, which was Y supported by well-known institutions; (3) the data processing 413ecifications had been designed to assure no disclosure of individual 1144k data; (4) participation by members of the Board's staff had been 441. 'would continue to be limited to planning, advice, and criticism; and 9/24/64 -4- (5) the computer time required at the Board to complete the study would be moderate (estimated at 15 hours). During discussion reference was made to the steps that had been taken to insure confidentiality of individual bank data. In this connec- tion, Governor Daane suggested that it might be appropriate at some time to look into the whole question of nondisclosure of such data. He some- tiles wondered if the Board might not be going too far in its insistence 11Pon confidentiality of individual bank figures in studies such as this. Governor Mitchell expressed a similar view, noting, however, that it was often possible to generalize data in such a way as to prevent sclosure of individual bank data and still produce significant results. Mr. Holland observed that procedures used to protect individual b4nk data sometimes resulted in users reaching misleading conclusions. licIfever, there was some evidence of reluctance on the part of banks to 1\1111ish certain types of data, which, if disclosed, might have harmful erfects on their own operations. At the conclusion of the discussion the request of the University °t Illinois professors for the assistance outlined in the September 18 Illerflorandum was approved unanimously. Messrs. Davis, Holland, and Langham then withdrew from the nieeting. Change in control of banks (Item No. 1). Mr. Leavitt stated t444. " subsequent to Mr. Solomon's report to the Board on September 15, 9/24/64 -5- ' 964, members of the staff of the Board and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation had been conferring further with respect to the procedure for reporting changes in control of bank management pursuant to provisions of H. R. 12267 (Public Law 88-593), which had been approved by the President on September 12, 1964. On the basis of the conferences, tIls conclusion had been reached that information regarding such changes should be exchanged at the regional level by Federal bank supervisory agencies. This would mean that, upon receipt of a report on bank stock 14volving either changes in outstanding voting stock or loans, a Reserve Bank would notify the appropriate Supervising Examiner of the Federal ttePosit Insurance Corporation, the Regional Comptroller of the Currency, and the State Banking Commissioner of the change. It was contemplated that a similar procedure would be followed by representatives of the ?sclera). Deposit Insurance Corporation and the Comptroller of the Currency. It 'was likely that the procedure to be followed at the regional level 11'411.14 be outlined in a letter from Chairman Barr of the Corporation to the Board and the Comptroller, and upon receipt of such a letter ap14'°Driate advice could be sent to the Reserve Bank Presidents. Governor Robertson indicated that he would favor the proposed etellange of information in the field, but he thought that the Reserve 444 should be notified by the Board of this procedure without delay. lie saw no need for waiting until a letter was received from Chairman 1141*r• 9/24/64 -6After discussion it was understood that a letter would be sent at this time to the Reserve Bank Presidents outlining the procedure to be followed at the regional level and requesting that the Reserve Banks send to the Board a copy of each report relating to management control received directly by them and of all reports submitted to them by the local representatives of either the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Or the Comptroller of the Currency. A copy of the letter sent pursuant to this action is attached as Item No. 1. In accordance with the understanding, a copy of the letter was transmitted to the Chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and to the Comptroller of the ellrrency. The meeting then adjourned. Secretary's Notes: Pursuant to the authorization at the Board meeting on August 19, 1964, a letter was sent today to the Presidents of all Federal Reserve Banks regarding a quarterly survey of bank lending practices to be conducted on an experimental basis. A copy of the letter is attached as Item No. 2. Governor Shepardson today approved on behalf of the Board memoranda recommending the following actions relating to the Board's staff: SalarY increases, effective September 27, 1964 Division Basic annual salary To From Office of the Secretary Prat, 74°es R. Williams, Senior Records Clerk kehange in title from Records Clerk) $5,080 $5,495 0 1. i 1•41, lc 9/24/64 .§.:411_ ! 8ry increases Name and title -7effective September 27, 1964 (continued) Division Basic annual salary To From Legal Janet Hart, Senior Attorney $12,495 $12,915 4,630 5,000 5,330 4,630 5,495 4,780 9,830 4,780 8,200 4,005 10,125 4,930 4,480 4,630 15,150 15,150 15,640 15,640 14,66o 15,150 4,630 4,480 4,780 4,630 4,638 4,888 5,230 5,380 4,005 6,250 4,140 Research and Statistics JO;kan C. Corrado, Secretary (change in title from Clerk-Stenographer) Jeaanette R. DeLawter, Secretary Elizabeth Mehall, Statistical Clerk Wilellyn Morelle, Economist !tephana Prager, Statistical Clerk riatalie C. Strader, Survey Statistician (Economics) G retchen Walrath, Clerk-Stenographer Catherine Zadbri, Clerk-Stenographer 8,445 4,140 Bank Operations IlaYraond J. Collier, Assistant to the Director Ralph Massey, Assistant to the Director Examinations Jakk M. Egertson, Supervisory Review Examiner Personnel Administration A. Chandler, Personnel Clerk 44.cietine Mason, Clerk-Stenographer s_8 g I i Administrative Services q11.14, W. Barnes, Operator (Xerox-Mimeograph) ''-Ex V. Dunn, Supervisor, Cafeteria Data Processing Cha rla Jo Hall Key Punch Operator 444 R R. Walka, ) Digital Computer Programmer 7,220 3 it 9/24/64 -8- Tt!.211!IIIL2 Peggy Jo powles, from the position of Stenographer in the Division c/f Examinations to the position of Secretary in the Office of the ecretary, with an increase in basic annual salary from $4,930 to q6,330) effective upon assuming her new duties. 2 Maureen E. Giordano, from the position of Clerk-Stenographer in he Division of Personnel Administration to the position of Stenographer 3-4 the Division of Research and Statistics, with no change in basic aanual salary at the rate of $4,005, effective September 27, 1964. , Sally L. Hayes, from the position of Clerk-Stenographer in the Iiivision of Personnel Administration to the position of Secretary in 6he Division of Research and Statistics, with an increase in basic EtIllitlal salary from $4,630 to $5,000, effective September 27, 1964. Lois A. Chandler, from the position of Personnel Clerk in the li nsl.on of Personnel Administration to the position of Clerk in the s4v1sion of Administrative Services, with no change in basic annual 41ary at the rate of $4,780, effective September 27, 1964. !!!aaalaance of resignations . e Harriet D. Berger, Secretary, Division of International Finance) 4tective at the close of business September 30, 1964. Thomas H. Hickman, Guard, Division of Administrative Services, .c4rective September 14, 1964. Secretary 3291 Item No. 1 BOARD OF GOVERNORS 9/24/64 OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM S-1931 WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551 ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO THE BOARD September 25, 1964. Dear sir: The recently enacted Public Law 88-593 requires that Federal Su Pervisory authorities be informed of changes in the control of manageof insured banks. The Board's statement of September 18, 1964, stgarding reports to be made under this law states that reports by ,,Ite member banks involving changes in control of management shall be 1 7e ; to its Federal Reserve Bank and that reports concerning loans by toy insured bank on the stock of a State member bank shall be submitted vhithe Federal Reserve Bank of the State member bank on the stock of ch the loan was made. When reports on bank stock involving either changes in . %tot anding voting stock or loans are received by the Federal Reserve one copy of each such report shall be forwarded promptly to the ofPt°Priate Supervising Examiner of the FDIC, the Regional Comptroller sh the Currency, and the State Banking Commissioner. The Reserve Banks 1 forward promptly to the Director of the Board's Division of eminations a copy of all reports received directly by them and also eiet!PY of any report submitted to them by the local representative of "er the FDIC or the Comptroller of the Currency. 0 Very truly yours, ,..A Merritt Sherman, Secretary. 1° IRE PRESIDENTS OF ALL FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS 34,(',92 S-1930 HOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE Item No. 2 9/24/64 FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551 ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO THE BOARD September 24, 1964. Dear Sir: The Board has authorized a survey of bank lending practices to be conducted on an experimental basis for a period of about one year. the This survey is to be made quarterly at banks now reporting in this if ; Quarterly Survey of Interest Rates on Loans to Businesses to smaller Ft°vos successful, an experimental extension of coverage nanks is contemplated. a relatively The purpose of this survey is to obtain, through or other officer loan senior a by simPle questionnaire to be filled out policies, lending bank's the senior official thoroughly familiar with Information on changes over the preceding three months in the terms a_nd conditions for lending to commercial and industrial businesses and Bureau finance companies. A small supply of the reporting form (Budget might that letter a of draft a with 14_°. 55-R213) is enclosed, together , is being ue used in approaching the banks concerned. A larger supply mailed under separate cover. should be The completed reporting form for each respondent forwarded to the Board's Data Processing Division for keypunching and t_a bulation. Prior to transmittal, each report should be checked care4111y for completeness, consistency, and reasonableness, and any . Summary ambiguities clarified through discussion with the respondent use their for Bank Reserve the s tatistics will be made available to and for distribution to respondents. conducted as of The initial survey in this series is to be the Board's reach should forms Se ptember 30, 1964, and the completed the surveys, subsequent bata Processing Division by October 9. In quarterly the of day last the Tiestionnaire should be completed as of 15, March 15, and laterest rate survey reporting period (December to reach the Board mailed be ',J uno 15) and the completed forms should °Y the 25th of the month. Very truly yours, 2 J„, Enclosures. TO THE PRESIDENTS OF ALL Merritt Sherman, Secretary. S- 1930-a Suggested Draft of Letter from Reserve Bank to banks to be, asked to participate in New Survey of Bank Lending Practices The Federal Reserve System is undertaking an experimental survey to obtain information on changes in bank practices regarding the terms and conditions of lending to commercial and industrial businesses and finance companies. This survey is to be conducted quarterly for a period of about one year at banks that are presently rePresented in the Quarterly Survey of Interest Rates on Loans to Nsinesses. As a respondent in this survey, we are asking your cooperation in supplying this supplemental information. As you will note, the reporting form (copies enclosed) is re latively simple and should require only a few minutes to complete. Information regarding the practices of individual banks will be treated In a confidential manner; reeults will, however, be made available to respondents and others in the form of broad aggregates of banks. It 18 believed that the information to be collected will not only be of 1/Slue to the System in carrying out its monetary policy responsibilities but that it also will be of considerable interest to the respondent ba nka The questionnaire should be completed by the senior' loan °fficer of your bank or by another senior official thoroughly familiar Ilith the bank's current lending policies. To insure consistency of tePorting, it would be desirable that the same individual be designated to fill out each successive report. 32144 -1930-a S Two copies of the form are enclosed, one to be returned to the Reserve Bank and one for your file. We are asking that the first 'report in this series reflect conditions as of the end of September ahd that it be completed and returned to us by October 5. Subsequent tePorts should be completed as of the end of the quarterly interest ate survey reporting period (December 15, March 15, and June 15) and *tied to us by the 18th of the month. ta claauras. (kftd of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, September 24, 1964)