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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYstem

was held in Washington on Wednesday, September 23, 1942, at

11:00

PRESENT:

Mr. Ransom, Vice Chairman
Mr. Draper
Mr. Evans
Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary

The action stated with respect to each of the matters hereinr
eferred to was taken by the Board:
Memorandum dated September 21, 1942, from Mr. Szymczak, roc°I11111exidinz. that
Miss Dorothy R. Tohnson be appointed as a stenographer
14 his orrice,
With salary at the rate of $1,800 per annum, effective
October 1, 1942,
after having passed satisfactorily the usual physical
exRkillation.

Approved unanimously, it being understood that Miss Melania K. Sokol, who expects to resign at the end of the current
Year and whom Miss Johnson will replace,
Will be transferred to the Division of Personnel Administration where She will assist
until she leaves.
Memorandum dated September 21, 1942, from Mr. Morrill, recomthat Percy C. Riston, assistant foreman of laborers in the
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Office, be promoted to the position of foreman of laborers,

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1)07T. Weeks,

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laborer in the Secretary's Office, be promoted to

3.tic)11 of assistant foreman of laborers, both on a temporary basis

illaviee:Ildefinite period, and (2) that the salaries of Messrs. piston
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be increased from ::1,680 and :
:,;1,320 to J...1,860 and




1,680 per

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spectively, effective October 1, 1942, and continuing only
141416 serving in the capacities of foreman of laborers and assistant
foreman of
laborers, respectively.
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Walden, First Vice President of the Federal Re"e Bank of
Richmond, reaaing as follows:
"In accordance with the recommendation contained in
letter of September 19, 1942, the Board of Governors
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./r°ves the payment of a salary to Mrs. Charlotte Nowell
Dc-4aughlin, stenographer in the office of Mr. W. B. Van
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i vnter, Regional Chairman of the Victory Fund Committee
the District
of Columbia, at the rate of a,800 per an1231) which is
0.20 in excess of the maximum annual salary
,7vided in the personnel classification plan of your Bank
r the position occupied by Mrs. McLaughlin."
Your

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Approved unanimously.
Or

Letter to Mr. Peyton, President of the Federal Reserve Bank
147111eallolis,
reading as follows:
194,"This refers further to your letter of September 12,
e nclosing the opinion of counsel for your Bank re-t,;lng the question whether certain officials of the United
laaritime Commission and of the War Department have
-°ritY to waive reouirements of the instructions of those
e;
-111cies in authorizing the making of a guarantee by a Fed"
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4 Reserve Bank pursuant to Executive Order No. 9112. In
e(Ve.ace with your request, your inquiry was referred to
the
cati sritime Commission and the War Department for clarifion of the question presented.
bell "The Board has now received a memorandum from the War
colment dated September 18, 1942, signed by Lieutenant
bY nel Paul Cleveland, Chief, Loan Section, and approved
war
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lle Honorable Robert P. Patterson, Under Secretary of
zetiVegarding this matter; and a copy of the War Departrir,
a„
memorand
memorandum
is enclosed for your information and guidJle have not yet received advice with respect to this
vIcIri from the United States Maritime Comnission.”




Approved unanimously.

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Letter to Mr. Bale, Vice President and Secretary of the Federal
Reserve Bank of San Francisco, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of September 4, 1942, with
respect to the question whether the limitations upon real
!state loans by national banks contained in section 24 of the
"dercl Reserve Act are to be considered applicable to loans
leranteed by the War Department, Navy Department, or Mari1111e Commission under Executive Order No. 9112 and Regulation
1,
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It is understood
that you have particular reference to
1”es in which a guaranteed loan is secured in part by a first
len cn real estate, but where the mortgage or deed of trust
Upon;
the real estate is intended only as additional security,
Primary security consisting of assignments of defense conv-cacts.
Aumi:!1 the Bulletin of the Comptroller of the Currency for
15, 1941, there was published at # 6740 a ruling of
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c :e Comptroller of the Currency which we believe may adequately
ir-er the question with which you are presented. In that rulg' the Comptroller of the Currency stated:
'It is the position of this office that any loans
based upon real estate security must conform to the
Provisions of section 24 of the Federal Reserve Act,
as amended, unless the circumstances justify the asthat the real estate security as such is remote or incidental and is taken out of an abundance
Of caution. In such cases the burden of proof is upon
the bank to convince the examiner that the loans may
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.r°Perly be excluded from consideration as "real estate loans" subject to the provisions of section 24,

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-'L°w, the Bulletin of the Comptroller of the Currency
110- shed and distributed only for the confidential use of
tiol°111-1-1 bank examiners and others engaged in the administradirn of the national banking laws; and it may not be quoted
t ze
t
.ZIrre ce
)yothers. However, the ruling of the Comptroller of
above mentioned would seem to indicate that the
cliz.l
ine of real estate mortgages as additional or incidental Sefor guaranteed loans, where the primary security is
O' bed by the guarantee or by assigned contracts, would
or sbe considered by the Comptroller's office as a violation
ion 24 of the Federal Reserve Act.
,
1 We are transmitting a copy of your letter and of this
re
to the office of the Comptroller of the Currency for the
'Traction of that office."
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Approved unanimously.

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-4Letter to the Presidents of all the Federal Reserve Banks,
reading as
follows:
"Consideration is being given to a proposed Amendment

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N 9 to Regulation W in draft form as shown by the enclosure.
"The matters to which the proposed amendment relates
(1) the requirement of a down payment (or
refundable deposit) on listed articles sent out 'on approval',
as 'de
monstrators', etc., when the sale that is in contems
i ti
"is an instalment sale; (2) 'floor authorizations' for
,7*ss in charge accounts of articles priced at ;5.00 or less
';4en the
customer, instead of taking the article with him,
'ers it to be delivered; and (3) small defaults, those of
';1•00 or less, in
charge accounts. It will be noted that the
of the proposed changes is on the restrictive side and
"'Jet the other
two are on the liberalizing side.
sna "The Federal
Reserve Banks are requested to make comments
Boa suggestions on the proposed changes and to advise the
rd of their own recommendations. Replies should reach the
'lard by
October 1, 1942.
as "You are at liberty to consult such persons in the trade
°11 may desire to consult in order to inform your own judgit ;1 and enable you to arrive at definite recommendations, but
assumed that you have already discussed these natters
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61 the trade
to such an extent that further consultation
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relate
mainly
to details and probably need not involve
flora
than a few selected consultants."

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Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Sienkiewicz, 'Vice President of the Federal ReOf Philadelphia, reading as follows:
refers to your letter of September 3, 1942, enWilli nC 11 copy of a letter of August 14, 1942, from Mr.
tici
'
-ams at your Bank to Col. Edward T. Biggins, of Bene110141 Management Corporation, relating to the treatment
boo
!
r Regulation W of instalment loans to purchase coupon
which in turn
y be used to purchase listed articles.
al)
, "On the basis of the information submitted by you, it
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Dr'
sears that such
transactions will be handled in a quite
ioctical manner and that the possibility of abuses or evaila cn the Regulation will be reduced to a minimum."




Approved unanimously.

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-5Letter to Mr. Woolley, Vice President and Secretary of the
Federal
Reserve Bank of Kansas City, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of August 26, 1942, en1.°8ing copies of letter to you and to the Retail Credit
78scciation of Kansas City from certain merchants, relattng Primarily to the return and exchange of merchandise by
customers
whose accounts are in default under section 5(c)
Of Regulation w.
It is the Board's view that if an article which has
been
n purchased in a charge account is returned to the seller the
resulting credit to the customer's account may be
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,13lied in cancellation of the credit previously extended
a" connection with
the sale of such article. Thus, if the
article returned is an article with respect to which the
account is in default,
the default in the account as to
article may be regarded as cured since, as to such
tit;cle, there is no longer an extension of credit essenhoe'. to the continuance of the default. On this basis,
✓ wever, it is only where the article returned is one with
lesPect to which
the account is in default that the resultcredit can be applied against the amount of the default.
ra, "In addition
, it is the Board's view that after de13,
in a charge account occurs, an article previously
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q?za
-as
ed in the account may be exchanged for a different
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.4.cle (although, of course, in case the new article is a
ths'ed article, the price of which exceeds the credit
for
ace article returned, the excess may not be charged to the
„count that is
in default but must be paid in cash). The
ct that
any such exchange, because of convenience to the
temties or the Registrant's bookkeeping and inventory sysor-8) may be entered on the Registrant's books as a return
artmerchandise followed by a credit sale
of a new listed
5N eles would not be material. The purpose of section
484 iS tO prevent the extension of additional credit for
the ved articles after the occurrence of the default, while
1.417 transactions discussed herein would not, in
substance,
00 ° e the extension of additional credit but merely
the
-t.a
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tilled use of credit legally extended in the first inOr course, it is assumed that any such return or
• IlAge is bona fide and not for the purpose of evading
-N• Y Provision
of the Regulation.
rats "S°me of the correspondence enclosed with your letter
peided a question regarding defaults arising from small unbcaances in charge accounts. The question of amending
the,
113:4 liegulation to waive defaults
of small amounts is still
etudy.fl

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Approved unanimously.

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-6Letter to Mr. Woolley, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
441cOf Kansas City, reading as follows:
"This is in reply to your letter of September 16, 1942,
.Illeferring to the possibility of exempting from Regulation W
'
°ans made to dependents of men in the armed forces. The
rfecent inquiries
which you mention seem to be related to the
dact that a number of these people will commence receiving
°Pendency allotments from the Government in November.
"The question which you raise touches upon the broader
Problem of
what may have to be done in the future as more
ilTd more married men and others having dependents -go into
:'e armed forces. The Government allotment scheme will undoubtedly
be inadequate in some cases and the question
_r'ses whether or not exceptions will have to be made for
nses of
this kind. It is not apparent to us off-hand that
V,ois e
xceptions would be particularly helpful inasmuch as
would seem to be no income available to provide for
the
payment of any extensions of credit which might be made,
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✓ that the actual number of credits which the lenders or
1,nre would be willing to extend under these circumstances
appear to be limited.
me
"Your particular question, however, concerns the allotrits
which will be received in November. The fact that your
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vie:: Prior to the allotment scheme the vendors or lenders
th'' unwilling to extend the credits but that when they saw
we!..°6 people were going to have some money in November they
dev:,willing to anticipate those funds. Tust how much this
°
t comes from the need of the families to obtain
the
go0,
s immediately or the desire of the merchants to sell
ha
,
4'° is dificult to surmise. We are wondering if complaints
le;le
d betla
-- received from individuals as distinguished from
ers and vendors.
me„ "If the case is merely one of anticipating November payp4e
r , it would appear that RegulationWwas adapted to that
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a°26. Single-payment loans could be made for 90 days and
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Payments would be involved unless listed articles
tej, beinE purchased. In charge accounts, purchases in Sepber:er need not call for payment prior to the 10th of Novem,
wow.
, According to your informants, the people concerned
4-u receive their allotments about that time.
consi
:
Ihis, of course, is a subject which will have to be
ered very carefully and we would be glad to have you
`
L
se
Us any
additional information which you obtain as well
Jour
lemn
reactions on the importance and urgency of the prob-

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Approved unanimously.

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Letter to Mr. Frank Hewins, Tr., Hallowell, Maine, reading
follows:
aS

"This is in reply to your letter of September 14, 1942,
,
/rhng certain specific nuestions relative to the Board's
Ilegulation W.
the "Your bill for repairs at the garage is not subject to
1,
charge account provisions of the regulation. We do not,
c/wevers use the word 'repairs' in the broad sense as includ;
'ne automobile batteries and accessories. Likewise, the rePair bill
for an individual who uses his automobile for
Pleasure is not subject to the regulation.
"Regulation W contains all of the provisions with refer:
lice to credit restrictions, but it does affect garages under
,,!rtain circumstances. If a garage sold automobile batteries
-"d accessories, automobile tires and inner tubes for passen!" automobiles, automobile radios or any of the other articles listed
in section 13(a), the credit extended by the ga08
1:ee wmad be subject in the following way: If an individual
a businee _
b has not paid for purchases of 'listed' or unlisted
ifticles by the tenth day of the second calendar month follow131 the
dates of purchase, he cannot buy on credit any of the
to:
tecit articles unless the default has been cured pursuant
-ection 5(d). A very large share of the garage business
suleps not involve
listed articles and would, therefore, not be
letilect in any way. The notice which you enclosed with your
letter
bet
is somewhat inaccurcte. It does not make a distinction
oveween the purchase of listed and unlisted articles; morecurl', it implies that the only way in which a default can be
ed is by
payment in full.
8al "The accounts of merchants with manufacturers and wholeel e for articles which the merchants resell to customers
re:
no Way subject to the regulation, even if the articles
Etre
ror -Listed
articles. You will note that a special exception
this type of business is provided by section 8(f) which
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revised by Amendment No. 8.
whi "We hope these answers will provide the information
raisch You wish to have. We have found that a good deal of
sillitIllcierstanding of the provisions of the regulation has rethe ed from the fact that creditors have been anxious to use
re8Illation to help them in collecting all kinds of debts
apoli throuJa inadvertence, have given the regulation a broader
the -ce'tion than was intended. We have endeavored to make
the._1"ules as simple as possible, but you will appreciate that
1.2r must take into
account the problems with which merchants
so metimes
faced. Most of the features that may appear




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-8-cvmPlicating are the result of our trying to provide for
!Peoial cases which are not of the usual type but which must
ue handled by
merchants from time to time.
"The administration of Regulation W is decentralized
ng the twelve Federal Reserve Banks, and you will perhaps
1rd it more convenien
t to direct any further questions that
U may have on this subject to the Federal Reserve Bank of
1°°8ton, Boston, Massachusetts, in whose district you are lo-

Approved unanimously.

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Memorandum dated September 22, 1942, from Mr. Dreibelbis,

4-al Attorney, recommending that there be published in the October
issue ,
oi the Federal
Reserve Bulletin statements in the form attached
tO the
nleirlorandum with respect to the following subjects:
Discounts by Federal Reserve Banks
Amendment to Regulation A
Reserves
Amendment to Supplement to Regulation D
Consumer Credit
Interpretation of Regulation W
Government Contracts
Executive Order dealing with War Contracts
Foreign Funds Control
Public Circular and Public Interpretation
Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary.

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Vice Chairman.