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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYstem Was held in Washington on Tuesday, September 23, 1941, at
12:50 p.m..
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the Division
of Research and Statistics
Mr. Smead, Chief of the Division of Bank
Operations
*. Ransom referred to the fact that, because of a bad storm
the Rocky Mountain area, Chairman Eccles had not been able to leave
S41t Lake
City by plane last night and would not be here today, and
that 4.
he members
of the Board and members of the staff had been presetlt
.11 the conference
room during a conversation over the loud speaker
telePhOne with Chairman Eccles this morning when the draft of a statePrepared in accordance with the
action taken at the meeting yester%
a
fternoon was thoroughly discussed and certain further changes
171*e 81187'e3ted by the Chairman.

It was understood during the telephone

%rnrersation that the statement would be rewritten and that after it
44bee
n cleared with Under Secretary of the Treasury Bell,
the revised
Ntement would
be read to Chairman Eccles over the telephone to asWhether he approved.




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-2There was discussion of the question to what extent the is-

nee of the proposed statement might limit testimony that might be

:toren

LYY the Secretary of the Treasury and Chairman Eccles when they

41)Pear later in the week at hearing before
s
the House Banking and

ClirrencY Committee on price control legislation. Mr. Ransom stated
that 1,
'le had hoped that if the statement were issued
it would not be
IllsearY for either the Secretary or the Chairman to go beyond the
state
ment in their testimony.
As to the timing of action by the Board,

there

was unanimous agreement that action should be taken,
if possible,
befo
,
'
e Secretary Morgenthau appeared
before the House Committee.
In a further discussion of the draft of statement it was

SUP-

that two statements be issued, one by the
Board with respect
tc) th
e action
increasing reserve requirements and one by the Secretary
(3r
91„
the 'leasury and Chairman Eccles, with the concurrence of the Board,

reth

spect to further steps to be taken.
It was agreed that Mr. Thurston would
revise the statment in accordance with
this suggestion.

There was also a discussion of the question whether in taking
to increase reserve requirements the Board should waive penaltiez t
er-z'°Parily for deficiencies in reserves occasioned by the increase

" th

was general agreement that this should be done.
At 1:15 p.m. the meeting recessed and reconvened at 2:25 p.m.
th th
e same
attendance as at the morning session except that Mr.




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Ikrat-t) General Counsel, was present, and Mr. Thomas, Assistant Director
"he Division of Research and Statistics, was present for a period
When
the details of the statement to be issued by the Board were being

A draft of the statement to be released by the Board was read
4111:1 changed in certain particulars including a change to state that

the Board

had determined that penalties for deficient reserves prior
to be
oember 1, 1941, would be based upon reserve requirements in ef—
teot on
October 31, 1941. In connection with this point it was stated
that
although
the Board could waive penalties for deficiencies in re—
it was without authority to relieve member banks of the neces-

814Y. of complying with
the requirement of section 19 of the Federal
ileserve Act that they shall not make new loans or pay dividends while
their
l'eserves are deficient. There was agreement that when action
Was ta-ken by the
Board to amend the Supplement to Regulation D the
e4krlded S
upplement should contain a footnote to the effect that the
lelislties prescribed by section
3(b) of Regulation D on deficiencies
tir
114 prjor to December 1,
1941, should be assessed on the basis
of. re
eerve requirements in effect immediately prior to the adoption
the
ended Supplement.
The draft of statement to be issued by the Secretary of the
Cti.14

ritt.3r and the
Chairman of the Board was then read and, after a
i°4 during which certain changes were made in the statement,




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agreed unanimously that Mr. Goldenweiser should present the two

8tateraents to Mr. Bell at the Treasury with the comment that the genel'al questions of policy as proposed in the statements had been cleared
with Chairman
Eccles, that, if the statements were satisfactory to Mr.
Bela, they would be
cleared as to form with Chairman Eccles, and that
1:t was the feeling of the Board
that they should be released for publi4°11 on the morning of the first day upon which the Secretary testil'ied
before the House Banking and Currency Committee on the price con11'°1-

legislation.
Mr. Goldenweiser left the meeting for that purpose.
Mr. Gardner, Senior Economist in the Division of Research and

SteLtiR+.
--1C3, was called into the meeting and said that the State DePal:t1ue:n-1. ,
uesired to inform the Cuban Government as promptly as possible
Who w
°Illd comprise the
membership of the mission to be sent to Cuba
to,
''S81-St in
developing legislation to establish a central bank in
ellb4/ and that the
question before the Board was whether, in addition
t°"
"
2'ing someone from the Division of Research and Statistics
it would also
authorize a member of the Legal Division (pre111114131Y Mr. Vest

Assistant General Counsel) to make the trip.

He

4(ideci that it had been
decided by the State Department that the mission11 17°1114 be under the leadership of Mr. Ulite, Director of the Divi-tat

°f14°IletarY Research of the Treasury, while he was in Cuba and

he(
Gardner) would be the operating head of the mission after




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rhite left.
Mr. McKee inquired as to the necessity for having a lawyer
trlft the Board's
staff as a member of the mission and Mr. Gardner re• that he did not know at this time that
the services of a lawyer
vloulea
be necessary, but that if
assistance were desired in the actual
cil'6.Lfting of legislation it would be very helpful to have someone avail41)1• v;110 had experience in drafting banking legislation
in this country,
that
• might be possible that the need could be met by having the
✓ g° to Cuba after any necessary investigative work had been done,
'at it was believed to be
desirable to have him participate in
all of.
the general discussions that might be held. Mr. Gardner made
the
'11rther
comment that he had written to Mr. Bryan, First Vice Presof
the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta,
as to the availability
ot
r* Frazer, former Manager of the Havana Agency of the Federal ReselNite
ank of Atlanta, as it had been suggested that, because of his
thoroil
gh familiarity with
Cuba and the Spanish language, he might be
Of
glleat
a-S13tanCe

.

to the mission.

Mr. Wyatt stated that, while the volume of work in the Legal

81°n made it
desirable that Mr. Vest remain here, he could be

the trip to Cuba if the Board so desired.
be

and the

alltho

Ransom inquired what Mr. Gardner's recommendation would
latter stated that he would suggest that he and Mr. Vest be
t0 go to
Cuba for the purpose stated and that, if it were




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ascertained that
Mr. Frazer would be available and his assistance

/7°110-d be valuable, authorization be given to have him make the trip,
44 of Which would be at the expense of the Board.
Mr. McKee inquired whether a lawyer from the Treasury would
be 14cluded in the membership of the mission and Mr. Gardner replied
that he did not know but that he understood that the Treasury repretatives on the mission would be confined to three persons and that
the SYstemt s
representatives would be confined to two including a

1417Yer Should
the Board decide to send one.
Mr. McKee moved that Mr. Gardner
and Mr. Vest be authorized to serve as
members of the mission and that, if it
were found that Mr. Frazer's services
would be valuable and that he would be
available for the purpose, the Board request the Atlanta Bank to authorize him
to make the trip, it being understood
that the salaries, retirement contributions, and authorized travel and subsistence expenses involved would be paid by
the Board.
Mr. McKee's motion was put by the
chair and carried unanimously.
aicie

MI% McKee stated that he would like to have Mr. Gardner con-

ke

further whether it would be necessary for Mr. Vest to serve as
el* of the
mission.
At this

that L e

4

point Mr. Gardner left the meeting.

Mr* Ransom was called from the room and upon his return stated
had

ju6D talked over the telephone with Mr. Goldenweiser who

that
the statements previously referred to during this meeting




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been cleared with Mr. Bell and by Mr. Bell with the Secretary of
the

Treasury who suggested only one change in the third line of the
statement to
be issued by the Board to substitute "Secretary of the

'
417" for "Treasury", that the Secretary had inquired whether the
etateMents had been cleared with the President and upon being advised
&tithe negative stated that he would like to advise the
President re—
gard•
lng the matter which could be done by telephone, that Mr. Morgenthau
ape

ed that if he was to appear before
the House Banking and Currency
er/nInlittee
tomorrow in connection with the price control legislation

the st
atements

should be released for publication in tomorrow morning
Ota PePers, and that he would know by 5:00 P.m. today whether he would

be ea,

4-led to
testify tomorrow.
With the amendment suggested by Secretary Morgenthau, the two

P

bn

ry"d statements were in the
following form:
Board Statement

"As a further step in the Government's program for
combating inflation, the Board of Governors of the Fed-.
Reserve System, after consultation with the Secre—
n2Y of the Treasury, has today increased reserve re—
rrsments for member banks to the present statutory
11t,
44
effective November 1. This action, unanimously
0
,eed upon, increases reserve requirements by about
ue—

seventh.
for "The requirements beginning on that date will be:

, bderaand deposits, 26 per cent at central reserve city
ai748,1 20 per cent at reserve city banks, and 14 per cent
citte°11atrY banks; for time deposits, 6 per cent at all
red
:
see of member banks. This action will result in a
b ction of excess reserves from about $5.2 billion to
a' 014 $
te
4
whole. At
ntral billion for member banks taken aa a
chle
reserve city banks excess reserves will be re—
Proximately from $2,400,000,000 to $1,700,000,p00,




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ft41

"at reserve city banks, from $1,850,000,000 to $1,5002000,000,
and at country banks from nearly $1,000,000,000 to $8000000,000.
"The action will leave the banks as a whole with ample
funds to meet all bank credit needs of the defense program
and all legitimate requirements of their customers. A survey made recently by the Board showed that a large majority
0f the member banks will be able to meet the increased requirements out of existing excess reserves and all but a
few of the remainder by drawing upon a portion of their deposits with city correspondents.
"The Board determined that penalties for deficient reserves prior to December 1, 1941 shall be based upon reserve
requirements in effect October 31, 1941.
"The following table compares the new requirements with
p!sesent requirements which have been in effect since April
1°) 1938,
Member Bank Reserve Requirements
(Per cent of Deposits)
.......---Classes of deposits
and banks

: Present
.
New
: requirements : requirements

On net
demand deposits:
Central reserve city banks ...
1Reserve city banks
,Countryt banks
On time
deposits:
411 member banks

22 3/4
17 1/2
12

5

26
20
14

6"

...•••••••••••••••••ar

Joint Statement

connection with the action taken today by the Board
s: Governors of
the Federal Reserve System to increase rechl
j
e requirements, the Secretary of the Treasury and the
tb-11111an of the Board issued the following statement in which
"Board of
Governors concurs:
to 'The Treasury and the Board of Governors will continue
age"atch the economic situation and to cooperate with other
all,2,ciee of the Government in their efforts, through priorities,
eati°ns, price regulation, and otherwise, to fight inflapow;. Recommendations on the
question of what additional
j
x , if any, over bank reserves the Board should have durtake "e Present emer:.,ency and what form these powers should
will be made whenever the Treasury and the Board, after




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"further consultation, determine that such action is necessary to help in combating inflationary developments."
At this point Mr. Goldenweiser returned to the meeting.
At 4:30 p.m. the meeting moved into the conference room for
the

Purpose of talking again with Chairman Eccles over the loud speaker

telephon
e.
Mr. Thurston read the proposed statements to the Chairman and
1-41'c/rifled him of the approval of the statements by Under Secretary Bell
141c1 Secretary
Morgenthau and of the latter's suggestion as to their
release.
At 4:55 p.m.) while Chairman Eccles was still on the telephone,
''''etari'Morgenthau called Mr. Ransom, and, before leaving to take
the c
all, the latter inquired whether Chairman Eccles was in agreement
lth
he statements. Chairman Eccles replied that he
was.
Upon his return to the room a few minutes after 5:00 p.m. Mr.
4111sc'm took the telephone again and stated to Chairman Eccles that
eta

yMorgenthau

Irith the

had advised that he had cleared the statements

President, that the Secretary was to appear before the House

44Iking and
Currency Committee tomorrow, that in his testimony before
the
''mmittee he proposed to say that the joint statement expressed
4avi
ews at the present time and that beyond that he was not prepared
to ltak
e a statement, and that he hoped that when Chairman Eccles apPettreci
before the Committee he would follow the same course. Mr. Eccles
441id that
he would endeavor to do so, but that as he had a personal
d in
the matter, he could not evade any direct questions as to




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11443 own beliefs and opinions as reflected in his previous public utt'(?rnces,
r.

Mr. Ransom also stated that in accordance with a suggestion

Szymczak, after action had been taken by the Board today, he

WOrt1

--4LI call Mr. Henderson, Adninistrator of the Office of Price Adminis-

rat1°11, and advise him of what had been done.
During the course of the telephone conversation Chairman Fccles
8ta'ted that the weather was still
bad in Ogden and that he did not
kriow
thether he would be able to leave by plane tonight and that if
he r44.1
"-LLI not do so he would try
to catch the Streamliner tomorrow and
arr.ve
in V;ashington on the morning of Friday, September 26.
The meeting then moved back into the Board room and upon notion

by

Mr. McKee the following resolution was adopted by unanimous

votet

Resolved, that the Supplement to
Regulation D be amended to read as follows:
"SUPPLEMENT TO REGULATION
"Effective as to each member bank at the opening
of business on November 1, 1941*
"Reserves required to be maintained by member
banks with Federal Reserve banks
pec, "Pursuant to the provisions of section 19 of the
theel'al Reserve Act and section 2(a) of its Regulation D,
by 13°ard of Governors of the Federal Reserve System here4lemrescribes the following reserve balances which each
mai,!r bank of the Federal Reserve System is required to
di "ain on deposit with the Federal Reserve bank of its
atrict:
6 per cent of its time deposits plus-14 per cent of its net demand deposits
-L-L not in a reserve or central reserve city;




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"20 per cent of its net demand deposits
if in a reserve city, except that if located
in an outlying district of a reserve city or
in territory added to such city by the extension of the city's corporate limits such bank
may, upon the affirmative vote of five members
of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System, be permitted to maintain 14 per cent
reserves against its net demand deposits;
26 per cent of its net demand deposits if
located in a central reserve city, except that
if located in an outlying district of a central
reserve city or in territory added to such city
by the extension of the city's corporate limits,
such bank may, upon the affirmative vote of five
members of the Board of Governors of the Federal
Reserve System, be permitted to maintain 14 per
cent or 20 per cent reserves against its net demand deposits.
"The supplements to Regulation D which have previously
been issued are
hereby revoked and superseded.
"The penalties prescribed by section 3(h) of Regulation D on
deficiencies occurring prior to December 1, 1941,
?nall be assessed on the basis of the reserve requirements
ln effect immediately
prior to the adoption of this supPlement.“
Mr. Szymczak moved that the statement to be issued by the Board be approved and that the Board concur in the
Joint statement to be issued by the Secretary of the Treasury and the Chairman,
both as set forth above.
This motion was put by the chair
and carried unanimously.
M.
11(1111 z

Ransom raised the question whether, in view of the Chair-

zs to1711tinued absence he should plan to go to St. Paul on September
ti
°rt

the Purpose of addressing the State Bank Supervisors in conven-




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-12It was agreed unanimously that, in
view of all the circumstances, Mr. Ransom
should not go and that Mr. Morrill should
call Mr. Peyton by telephone and ask him
to explain why it was not possible for Mr.
Ransom to fill the appointment.
At this point Messrs. Thurston, Goldenweiser, Smead, and V;yatt

left the
meeting and the action stated with respect to each of the
41tters hereinafter referred to was then taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
l'e(leral Reserve System held on September 22, 1941, were approved
unani111011sly.

Letter to the Presidents of all Federal Reserve Banks reading
4
follows:
Board's letter of
Peh "This rescinds the part of the
-ruarY 28, 1936 (X-9506, Item #3440, F.R.L.S.), which
'
equested each Federal Reserve Bank to review annually
48 cf the close of the year the condition of each State
!
ember bank in its District which is subject to the pres:lilt standard condition of membership numbered 2, or former
ndard condition of membership numbered 15, respecting
e
maintenance of an adequate capital structure, and, in
a
case where it appears that the capital structure is
adequate under the provisions of the condition of mem,
orfshiP, to advise the Board of the situation with a rect:mendation as to what action, if any, should be taken by
ue Board in the circumstances.
vie
The discontinuance of the request for an annual rewhj and a report thereon does not reflect in any degree
&a 'scever a modification of the Board's position that it
so,nsential that banks maintain an adequate cushion of
capital and that, as part of their regular super7 work, the Reserve Banks use their best judgment
811,eXert their best efforts to bring about and maintain
" a condition with respect to all State member banks.

Zr




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"The request for an annual review has been rescinded since
it seems preferable to emphasize the importance of giving
constant and continued attention to the adequacy of the
capital structures of all State member banks as part of
the regular supervisory work rather than to emphasize the
annual review of only the banks subject to a condition of
membership regarding maintenance of capital.
"It is assumed that in all cases where an examination
hY the Reserve Bank discloses inadequacy of capital the
analysis on Form 212 submitted to the Board will contain
appropriate reference to the situation with a statement
as to what action the Reserve Bank has taken or contemplates
taking and a recommendation as to the action, if any, the
Board should take in the circumstances. It is not intended,
c) course, that the information and recommendations be
llmited to those contained in Form 212. It is expected,
!tither, that in all cases the Reserve Banks will forward
rom time to time such data as may be necessary in order
zhat both the Reserve Banks and the Board may properly discharge their supervisory responsibilities."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Chase, President of the Maine Securities Company,
l'ead4

'Jug as follows:
"This refers to your letter of September 15, 1941,
ith further reference to the question whether a member
wrIk of the Federal Reserve System may lend securities.
regret that our reply did not fully answer your inqUir7.
Iv, "You state that it was your purpose to ascertain
t!l_sther a bank which is a member of the Federal Reserve
stem can legally make a loan of securities under any
i'
lslrcumstances. The question of the legality of the lend,
1 rg of securities by member banks is a matter of intertihstation of the statute and depends in SO= measure upon
e
ha facts of the particular case. The Board of Governors
:
wc ,,not made any ruling or interpretation of the law which
lan'
c'i"1 forbid the lending of securities by a member bank
re all circumstances, nor are we advised of any such
ng made by the Comptroller of the Currency. As you
krio
'
the lending of securities under certain conditions
is
not infrequent practice of some banks.

Z

j




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"It is the custom of the Board to refer inquiries
such as that made by you under date of August 21, 19)41,
to the Federal Reserve Bank for reply. However, in view
of the request made in your letter that your inquiry be
not referred in this way, 1.,e departed from the usual policy and replied to your letter directly. Since you had
referred to the fact that the matter had been taken up
with the Federal Reserve Bank, however, we felt it desirable to have such information regarding the particular
case as we could obtain from the bank before undertaking
to advise you."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the Presidents of all Federal Reserve Banks prepared
accordance with the action taken at the meeting of the Board on
ept
8ember 17, 1941, and reading as follows:
"As stated in the Board's letter of July 17, 1941,
Board has been requested both by the office of the
troller of the Currency and by one of the Federal Rea
serve Banks to render an opinion on the question whether
°facer of a member bank, who is also serving as a dib-c L'or and as a member of the discount committee of the
tnk, is to be regarded as an executive officer within
"e meaning of the Board's Regulation 0, as amended ef:Lective tally
T
1, 1939, notwithstanding the adoption of a
rnesolution by the board of directors providing that he is
°t authorized to participate in its operating management.
in th:Th? Board of Governors has considered this question
fi, ; light of the definition of the term 'executive of'
Re er in its Regulation 0, the views expressed by Federal
arisderve Banks and others who have considered this matter,
t4_ the authority of the Board to define the term 'execuor officer'. The
Board has concluded that an officer
a8 a member bank, who is also serving as a director and
:
1711 , member of the discount committee and with respect to
thela resolution as described above has been adopted by
offi °ard of directors, is to be considered an executive
ca„cer within the meaning of Regulation 0 except in a
where a
provision of the by-laws of the bank or a
,solut4
-Lon
in
of the board of directors requires the service
rotation of
every director as a member of the discount
4.




9/23/41

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committee and the directors do in fact serve as members
of the committee in accordance with such by-law or resolution."
Approved unanimously, together with
a letter to Mr. Upham, Deputy Comptroller
of the Currency, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of May 14, 1941, and our
acknowledgment of May 23, 1941, with reference to the queslon whether a vice president and director of a national
'Dank who is also a member of the discount committee is to
be considered an executive officer within the meaning of
the Board's Regulation
0.
"The Board has concluded that an officer of a member
uank, who is also serving as a director and as a member of
he discount committee and with respect to whom a resolut?on as described above has been adopted by the board of
_cillrectors, is to be considered an executive officer within
'
Ille.meaning of Regulation 0 except in a case where a proslon of the by-laws of the bank or a resolution of the
oard of directors requires the
service in rotation of
jerY director as a member of the discount committee and
re directors do in fact serve as members of the committee
accordance with such by-law or
resolution.
el :Tor your information in this connection, we are en)Sing herewith a copy of a letter which the Board is toa
Banksddressing to the Presidents of the Federal Reserve
with regard to this question."

n:

Telegram
to the Presidents of all of the Federal Reserve Banks
Ing as
follows:
unci "Reg. W-78. The inclusion or exclusion of articles
pa,
"the classification 'ice refrigerators', which is a
of Group D-7 'New household furniture' in the Supplehall
.t, is determined by the same general principles that
torv:,been applied in connection with 'mechanical refrigeraca - • Refrigerators of less than 12 cubic feet rated
theacitY
p
are included, no matter what the use to which
are
to be put, unless their design and construction
iR
Y
„
-uch that they are
clearly usable only for commercial
mpose$




Approved unanimously.

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-16Telegram to the Presidents of all of the Federal Reserve Banks

NWIng as follows:
"Reg. W-79. The phrase 'bona fide cash purchase
price' in section 6(h) means the bona fide cash purchase
Price of the article and accessories purchased, including
any sales taxes thereon and any bona fide delivery and
installation charges."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Stroud, First Vice President of the Federal Re"
.e Bank of Dallas, reading as follows:
"Your wire (re Regulation t). Seller may receive
arlYthing of value and count it as part or all of down
Payment on automobile."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Stroud, First Vice President of the Federal Reaerir

of Dallas, reading as follows:
"Your wire September 16 regarding trade of Chevrolet and
Ford. We agree with you except that cash purchase
ice of Ford, on which credit value should be based if
is made within 45 days after purchase, is value of
:evrolet plus $522. It is to be noted, however, that
'lnance company could rely on B's statement of purchase
Price under section 5(a)(1)."

rc2an




Approved unanimously.
Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

.641

ice Chairman.

-'

1147)4ttL141.
Secretary.