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1717,
A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System was held in Washington on Tuesday, September 22, 1936, at 11:00
a. Tn.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Ransom, Vice Chairman
Broderick
Szymczak
Davis

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Smead, Chief of the Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Ransom presented a letter dated September 17, 1936, from
Mr,

Owen D. Young, Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New

York) a copy of which had been furnished previously to each member of
the

Board, reading as follows:
"In your letter of August 20, 1936, you approved the
salary of Mr. Sailer as a vice president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, as provided by the board of directors of this bank, for the period September 1 to December
31, 1936. To that approval you added the following clause:
1-I** with the definite understanding that he will
retire on or before the latter date, that there
will be no further request for approval of any compensation for him, and that this action is final.'
"This clause, in the opinion of our board, calls for
two observations: The first is one of principle. The language of the condition suggests that the Board of Governors
has the right under the statute to attach as a condition to
salary approval a statement as to when employment shall
cease. While this is of no material consequence in Mr.
Sailer's case, our board of directors regard the matter of
sufficient importance in principle to warrant the expression
of a reservation. The second is a question of expediency,
or perhaps more correctly one of construction. Our board
wishes me to say that while it has no thought of asking for




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"a continuance of salary for Mr. Sailer beyond December 31,
1936, it must at least reserve the right to present its views
to the Board of Governors as to what is an appropriate retirement allowance for him. This may take the form of a request
for special action in Mr. Sailer's case, or perhaps even better
a suggestion for a modification of the general rules relating
to retirement which may be considered as of benefit to the
System as a whole."
Mr. Szymczak suggested that a reply be prepared to Mr. Young's
letter reviewing the developments which resulted in the action in the
tc)rm set forth in its letter of August 20, 1936, to President Harrison,
in regard to
the compensation of Mr. Sailer.
Mr. Broderick raised a question as to whether the Board had
authority, under its general power to approve the compensation of officers and employees of Federal reserve banks, to refuse to approve the
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of a particular officer, without assuming the burden of proving

that the individual was incompetent or otherwise not entitled to the
selarY which had been fixed by the board of directors of the bank.
Mr. Wyatt stated that the Board's power to approve or disapP1'°.
"compensation of officers and employees of reserve banks was a very
brn—,
-'u authority, the purposes of which were two-fold: (1) to prevent
the reserve banks from paying excessive salaries to officers and emP10
Yees; and (2) to prevent the reserve banks from keeping more people
"the Payrolls than would be justified.

He said that, while the law

\rested in the directors of each reserve bank the responsibility for the
--- management of the institution, the provision of law requiring




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that any compensation that may be provided by the boards of directors
of the Federal
reserve banks for directors

officers or employees shnil

be subject to the approval of the Board of Governors contemplated that
the Board would exercise a discretion as to whether it should approve
or disapprove the salary of any officer or employee.
Mr. Ransom pointed out that when Mr. Sailer's case was considered
by the
Board in February of this year, and a final conclusion was
reached the following month, it was his thought that the action taken
Was well within the scope of the Board's authority under the law.

He

said that, at the time, the salaries of officers of the New York bank
as

a

group seemed unnecessarily large and that, in view of the reduced

earnings of the reserve banks, the elimination of Mr. Sailer's salary
aPPeared to be in accord with the general policy of retrenchment which

the Board had initiated.
Mr. Broderick indicated that in his opinion Mr. Young did not
have in mind all of the facts underlying the Board's action at the time

he wrote his letter of September 17, and that he thought it was doubtWhether the earlier correspondence between the Board and the New
York bank had been brought to the attention of the board of directors
°t the bank.

He then suggested that it might be well to look into the

question of requiring that all official correspondence addressed to the
reserve banks by the Board of Governors regarding matters of policy,
"r1 Particularly with respect to salaries of officers and employees,




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be brought to the attention of the board of
directors of the reserve
tic concerned.
After some discussion of Mr. Broderick's suggestion, the Board requested
that a circular letter to the Presidents
of all Federal reserve banks be drafted
along the lines indicated by Mr. Broderick
and submitted to the Board for consideration.
Mr. Ransom said that he was inclined to agree with Mr. Szymczak

that it would be desirable, in replying to Mr. Young's letter, to review
the developments in Mr. Sailer's case. In response to a question by Mr.
4°1
'
1111) it was indicated that such a review should include the previous
—17 of the Board's position with respect to the advisability of apP1
'
137ing compensation for Mr. Sailer.
Mr. Broderick indicated that he favored this disposition of the
latter, and
suggested that the letter should be courteously frank and
fldicate clearly that the Board is always glad to have the board of dil'eetOrs of a reserve bank present its views on any matter and to give
them a
c reful consideration.
At the conclusion of further discussion,
the Board unanimously agreed that the Secretary should draft such a reply to Mr. Young's
letter of September 17 for the Board's consideration.

Mr. Morrill called attention to an Executive Order issued by
the

President
under date of September 17, 1936, "Excusing from Duty

"Wednesday, September 23, 1936, until 1 P. M., Employees of the Ex-




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eautive Departments, Establishments and Other Agencies of the Federal
Government in the District of Columbia, Who Desire to Show Honor to the
Veterans of the Civil War upon the Occasion of the Parade of the Grand
AralY of the Republic"

and suggested that the Board might wish to take

similar action with respect to its organization.
By unanimous vote, the Board thereupon ordered that all employees of the
Board's organization who could be spared
be excused from duty on Wednesday, September 23, 1936, until 1:00 p. m.
Mr. Broderick raised a question as to when it would be possible
to hold a conference with President Harrison, First Vice President
8Pr°41 and Assistant Vice President Knoke of the Federal Reserve Bank
°f New York regarding the procedure to be followed with respect to
'
l elationships and transactions entered into by the New York bank with
t°reign banks or bankers under the provisions of Section 14(g) of the
Federal Reserve Act.

A discussion ensued, during which Mr. Ransom

atated that Chairman Eccles was not expected to return to the office
bef(Ire Saturday, October 3; that certain other members of the Board
14°111d. be out of the city during the interim between October 3 and 11;
and that it would not be feasible to have a meeting of the full Board
to

A

.011sider the matter prior to the week of October 12.

Mr. Ransom

added that it would be desirable for Chairman Eccles to have an opportuti,
V to review the action taken by the Board during his absence
connection
with the matter, and requested the Secretary to prepare




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a memorandum for Chairman Eccles summarizing the developments in this
connection.
The Board agreed unanimously to
the suggestion that the conference be
held during the week of October 12, 1956,
with the understanding that Mr. Ransom
would get in touch with President Harrison and agree upon a date, during the
week indicated, on which it would be convenient for him, together with Messrs.
Sproul and Knoke, to come to Washington
for the purpose.
Mr. Broderick reported briefly on his attendance at the convention of

the National Association of Supervisors of State Banks held in

Detroit September 14 to September 16, 1956. He said that he had not
been on
the speaker's program but had been called upon and had spoken
informally
on the subject of "Cooperation".

He also said that the Fed-

eral Reserve Banks of New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Chicago
and St. Louis had representatives at the convention, that there was
evidence of good feeling on the part of the State bank supervisors
towu
ar.,
the System, and that they regarded the examination divisions of
the

reserve banks as complementing their own examining staffs.
Mr. Broderick stated that he had, of course, visited the Detroit

bra„,
"'n of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago during the convention,
and that en route to and from Detroit he had visited the Cincinnati and
Pitta-largh

branches of the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland and the

4-0 branch of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.




He added that

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the volume of business handled by the Buffalo branch did not, in his
°Pinion, justify its continuance, although he was inclined to the op
,
Posite view with regard to the branches at Detroit, Cincinnati and
P
ittsburgh.
At this point Messrs. Wyatt and Smead left the meeting and con,
sidsration was then given to each of the matters hereinafter referred
to and the
action stated with respect thereto was taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System held on September 21, 1936, were approved unanimoUsly.
Letter to Mr. C. M. Thompson, Assistant Cashier, The First NaBank, Pueblo, Colorado, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of June 26, 19360 addressed
to the Comptroller of the Currency, regarding the question
whether your bank may classify a deposit in the name of the
United States Fidelity & Guaranty Company, collateral for
E. L. Westcott, as a savings deposit under the provisions
of section 1(e) of Regulation Q. As stated in the Board's
letter to you dated August 5, 1956, your letter has been referred by the Comptroller of the Currency to the Board for
reply.
"You state that the funds in question were deposited
in your bank by E. L. Westcott to the credit of the United
States Fidelity & Guaranty Company to secure the company on
ea appearance bond furnished for Miss Westcott. The quoted
Portion of the letter from the surety company states that
the funds deposited would become the property of the company
Only upon breach of the bond in connection with which the
collateral was given. The surety company also states that
Upon the discharge of the company's liability on the appearance bond, without loss, and upon payment of any premium due,
the funds in the deposit with accumulated interest would be




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"returned to the depositor.
"Under the circumstances stated above, it is the view
of the Board that the deposit may be considered one in which
the entire beneficial interest is held by an individual and
that the deposit may be classified as a savings deposit if
it complies with the other requirements of section 1(e) of
Regulation Q.
"Of course, if the surety company should hereafter assert any claim to the fund in any capacity other than as a
mere holder for the purposes stated above, a different situation would be presented.
"If you should have any further questions regarding
this matter or any similar matter, it is believed that you
may find it more convenient to communicate with the Federal
Reserve Bank of Kansas City."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Hale, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
of

San

Francisco, reading as follows:

"This refers to your letter dated June 29, 1936, and
inclosures, requesting a ruling by the Board upon the question whether a member bank may classify as a savings deposit
funds consisting of a cash bond given by an employee to his
employer, such funds to be withdrawn from the deposit account only upon the joint signatures of the employer and the
employee. A reply to your letter has been delayed pending
Consideration by the Board of a number of similar questions.
"Section 1 of the California Act Regulating Employees'
Bonds (Act approved April 20, 1917, Stats. 1917, p. 151,
Chap. 108, as amended,) provides that t/10 employer shall demand, exact or accept any cash bond from any employee or apPlicant for employment unless * * * the said cash received as
bond is deposited in a savings account in a bank authorized
to do business in this State, to be drawn out only upon the
Joint signatures of the said employer and the said employee
or applicant for employment, * * *.,
"Section 112
- of the above Act provides that 'any money
or property put up by any employee or applicant for employment as a cash bond in any case must not be used for any
Purpose other than liquidating accounts between the employer
and his said employee or return to the said employee or
applicant for employment, and shall be held in trust for




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"'this purpose and not mingled with the money or property
of the employer who receives same, any provision of any contract between the employer and employee or applicant for employment to the contrary notwithstanding.'
"It is the view of the Board that deposits of cash
bonds made in accordance with the above statutory provisions
may be considered deposits in which the entire beneficial
interest is held by an individual and that such deposits
may be classified by member banks as savings deposits under
the definition in section 1(e) of Regulation Q, provided
they comply with the other requirements of the section."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Sargent, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
Bank

of San Francisco, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of August 6, 1936, and its
inclosures, relating to the application ell/Ulmer Security
Company', Lewiston, Idaho, for a voting permit entitling it
to vote the stock which it owns or controls of The First National Bank of Lewiston, Lewiston, Idaho.
"On the basis of the information contained therein or
obtained from the office of the Comptroller of the Currency,
the Board understands that, at the time of the preceding
election of directors of The First National Bank of Lewiston,
such bank had 750 shares of preferred stock and 1,250 shares
of common stock outstanding; that all of the stock was voted
at such election of directors; that substantially all of
the stock was then owned or controlled by Vollmer Security
Company; that such bank subsequently issued an additional
1,000 shares of preferred stock and now has 1,750 shares
of preferred stock and 1,250 shares of common stock outstanding; and that Vollmer Security Company now owns or controls
less than 50% of the common stock (the exact number of shares
does not appear) and none of the preferred stock, all of
the latter being owned by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation.
"In view of these facts, it appears that Vollmer Security
Company is no longer a holding company affiliate of The First
National Bank of Lewiston and that no further consideration
need be given to its application for a voting permit. Accordingly, the Board's file is being closed. However, if you




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"have any further information which you believe should be
considered in this connection, please advise the Board."




Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.