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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System was held in Washington on Tuesday, September 15, 1942, at 9:30

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
141±. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Dreibelbis, General Attorney
Mr. Vest, Assistant General Attorney
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Reference was made to a memorandum addressed to the Board
uader date of
September 2, 1942, by Li.. Vest, to which was attached
8111111ar7 of the
replies received from the Presidents of the Federal
"Banks to the Board's letter of August 7, 1942, asking for the
Reser
rid suggestions of the Banks regarding the problem of the ab(31.ePtion of exchange and collection charges by member banks.

The file

he'd been circulated aic.ong the members of the Board before this meeting,
8114 the Latter was considered in the light of the recent discussions of
What,

any, action the Board should take.




By unanimous vote, the Legal Division
was requested to prepare a memorandum setting
forth the steps which it would recommend for
consideration by the Board to meet the problem.

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-2There was then presented a letter addressed to Chairman

Eccles under date of September 14, 1942, by Under Secretary of the
Trea
surY Bell, referring to the change since April 1 of this year in
the volume of
excess reserves of member banks in central reserve cities
and other member banks and to the agreement that a wider use of excess
reserves of member banks outside of central reserve cities would be desirable.

The letter also expressed doubt that there was sufficient in-

f°rmatien available to enable formulation of effective policies directed
toward that end and stated
that it would be helpful if the Beard would
hate a
study made of the distribution of excess reserves outside of
central reserve cities, with Particular reference to the location, size,
414 Other characteristics (such as capital ratios) of the banks holding
them
.

It was understood that Li'. Thurston would
call Mr. Bell on the telephone and ascertain in
what form the information referred to in the letter was desired and obtain more definite advice
as to the use to which it was expected to be put.
Mr. Ransom stated that, if, over the period of the next sevel'a1 months,
substantial amounts of Government securities were purchased
tor the
System open market account, the earnings of the System would be
14creased to 8 point which would raise the question whether Congress
shoulA
u restore in some
form the provision previously in the law that
excess
earnings of the Federal Reserve Banks should be paid to the
lwverraiLent as a franchise tax.




He said that in these circumstances

he

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felt the
Board should consider :- -hat its position would be on the matter and What,
if any, action it should take.
At this point Mr. Paulger, Chief of the Division of Examinations, v,
"kr. Leonard, Director of the Division of Personnel I-Ldministratiaa,
and Mr
'Cagle
the

Assistant Chief of the Division of Examinations, joined

meetino.
Mr. Szymczak made substantially the following statement:
Yesterday Mr. Cagle and I attended the special meeting
Of the board
of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Cleveland
which had been called in connection with the ind ebtedness and
check and other transactions of Mr. Wagner,
110 had
resigned as Vice President of the Bank. At the beginning of the meeting, at which, in addition to Er. Cagle
and myself, all of the directors except Chairman Brainard
were present, I reviewed the history of the development of
Information with respect to Mr. Wagner's involved financial
condition,
after which the directors inquired what the Board
ilould like to have them do in the matter. I said that it
Was
not ITIY purpose to tell the directors what they should do
but it was
assumed that, inasmuch as they did not have full
!-_nformation with respect to the matter, they would wish to
uake steps to
develop complete information as a basis for
lich action
on Mr. Wagner's resignation as might appear to
be
necessary. I also said that they undoubtedly would want
to
find out whether anything Mr. Vagner had done had resulted
n a shortage at the Federal Reserve Bank or whether, by virgield
:.pfhis position as an officer of the Bank, he had obtained
from other sources, and that to this end the directors
might discuss the
matter, first with President Fleming as the
Chief executive officer of the Bank, and thereafter with the
Other officers, including the Auditor and the Vice President
rn l charge of examinations, who had had some contact with the
etter, after which a decision could be reached as to what
further action mi-"ht be necessary. It was made clear that
there was no disposition on the part of the Board of Gover,ro.to criticize anyone and that the only interest the Board
had
in the matter was to be sure that the responsibility of
"e directors and the Board was properly discharged.

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At this Point, the directors called President Fleming
into the meeting and Mr. Cagle withdrew, and there was a
discussion of the relationship of the Auditor to the board
Of directors.
It was stated that this matter was on the
a6enda for consideration at the forthcoming Chairmen's Conference and that the directors might wish to have the benefit.of the discussions
at that conference before reaching
a final decision on that matter. I repeated again, in the
Presence of 11r. Fleming, that the Board of Governors was
not undertaking
to criticize anyone in connection with the
Lagner laatter and that the only interest the Board had in
it was to
be sure that the responsibility of the Board and
the directors
had been adequately met and that all of the
facts necessary for a considered decision on Yir. Wagner's
resignation
had been developed.
At the conclusion of the meeting, the directors in?tructed the auditing committee to institute the necessary
investigation
of the entire matter, conferring first with
President Fleming as the chief executive officer and such
Of the
other officers as might be found to be desirable,
after which it would be determined by the directors what further steps
should be taken. It was understood that I would
inform Chairman Brainard of the discussions at the meeting,
that he would
keep in close touch with the progress of the
investigation, which should be made expeditiously, that the
.c!
c Ildltins committee would report to the board of directors at
'requent intervals, and that whenever anything was developed
Which it was believed should be brought to the attention of
the Board
of Governors a representative of the board of directors would communicate
with the Board of Governors or I
would go to Cleveland again. In accordance with this under?tanding, I have talked to Mr. Brainard, and a letter is being prepared for my signature to him confirming the understanding
alving him information with respect to the indebtedness of
7* .Wagner at Cleveland banks, the nature and extent of his check
tine, operations, and the large deposits made by him in his
c
hecking account.

1

During the discussion of the relationship of the Auditor
tO
4 the board of directors, an opportunity was presented for me
(iiscuss in some detail the System program of executive devaloPment and the consideration which was being given to the
:XPansion of the functions and services of the branches of
"
- 3aeral Reserve Banks, and the directors expressed themselves
as being in full
agreement with what was being proposed.




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Toward the end of the meeting of the directors, Mr.
Klages stated that, as a means of protecting the rights of
First Vice President 2,urlinden (who had recently reached
the age of 65) under the retirement system and in order to
provide an opportunity for the Proper training of an offiIc?r of the Bank to succeed Mr. Fleming as President upon
us retirement in 1946, the directors recently had informed
Mr. Zurlinden that they proposed to retire him as of February 23, 1943. I took the position that the Board of Governors had approved the appointment of 1,:r. Zurlinden as First
Vice President for a term of five years from March 1, 1942,
that if the board of directors of the Bank had any plans
with respect to his retirement they should have been taken
up with the Board of Governors before they were discussed
with Mr. Zurlinien, and that before any further action was
taken a conzittee of the directors should meet with the
1,
;1:
.
13
12=ngton at a time when all of the members of
present for the purpose of reviewing the
Ira°1e Problem of official Personnel at the Cleveland Bank.
he directors
agreed that they would proceed in accordance
Nita this suggestion.
During the afternoon, I had an opportunity to talk with
4r. Fleming and Mr. Hays about expanding the functions and
services of the Pittsburgh and Cincinnati Branches.
. As the result of recent discussions, the directors have
„rcided to
continue the present arrangement with Squire,
kdancters & Dempsey as Counsel for the Bank and to appoint one
employees of the Bank, who is a member of the bar and
0 has Practiced law, as assistant counsel. A letter askluS for the Board's approval of a salary for the new appointee will be submitted to the Board in due course.

Of tile

Following Mr. Szymczak's statement, 'Messrs. Thurston, Paulger,
bretbelbis, Leonard, Vest, Wyatt, and Cagle left the meeting, and the
acti
-on stated with
respect to each of the matters hereinafter referred
to Was
then taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Fe e1

Reserve System held on September 12, 1942, were approved unanitiously.




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-6The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the

Federal Reserve System held on September 14, 1942, were approved and
the ectio 8
n recorded therein were ratified unanimously.
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Federal

Reserve System with the Federal Advisory Council held on Sep-

tember 14,
1942, were approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated September 9, 1942, from Mr. Paulger, Chief
Of the

Division of Examinations, recommending that the following in-

cl
'
eases in salaries of employees in that Division be approved, effective as of
September 16, 1942:

Name

Designation

Louis W. Zidek
Edward S. Myers
Herbert H. Hagler
Carroll R. Eighfield
Robert X. Schoenhoff
X. Fred
English

Assistant
Assistant
Assistant
Assistant
Assistant
Assistant

Examiner
Examiner
Examiner
Examiner
Examiner
Examiner

Salary Increase
To
From
••••••••••

$1,900
2,300
2,900
2,300
2,500
2,900

$2,100
2,500
3,100
2,500
2,700
3,100

Approved unanimously.
Lemorandum dated September 15, 1942, from Mr. Carpenter,
Submitting
the resignation of Rexford Kirkland as a senior operator
(cluillicating devices) in the Secretary's Office, to become effective
"Of the close
of business on September 27, 1942, and recommending

that the
resignation be accepted as of that date.
The resignation was accepted.
Letter to Mr. Meyer, Assistant Cashier of the Federal Reserve
of Chicago,
reading as follows:




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"In accordance with the request contained in your
letter of Septeaber 1, 1942, the Board of Governors approves the payment of salaries to Minor B. Smith, General
Clerk, Discount Department, at the rate of e3,720 per annum) and W. W. Tongue, Statistician and Analyst, Research
and Statistics Department, at the rate of 0,800 per annum,
WhjCh IS 0220 and :
4 200, respectively, in excess of the maxim-um annual salaries provided in the personnel classification
Plan for these positions."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the Presidents of all of the Federal Reserve Banks,
read.ing as
follows:
"The Board has received from the War Department a
memorandum dated September 10, 1942, signed by Lieutenant
Colonel Paul Cleveland, regarding the cancellation of terminated guarantee agreements previously executed by the
Federal Reserve Banks on behalf of the War Department under
Executive
Order No. 9112. For your information and guidance the statement regarding this matter contained in the
War Department's memorandum is set forth below:
'1. In a number of cases, guarantee agreements executed by the Federal Reserve banks, as
fiscal agents of the United States, have been terminated, either because of payment of the loan,
execution of a superseding guarantee agreement,
surrender of the guarantee agreement by the financing institution, or for some other reason.
'2. In all these cases, all executed copies
of the terminated guarantee agreements in the possession of the Federal Reserve banks and the financing institutions should be physically cancelled,
either by stamping the word "cancelled" over the
signature of the Federal Reserve Bank, or by perforation of the signature of the Federal Reserve
Bank.
'3. In any case where the guarantee agreement in question has not already been physically
cancelled, it is suggested that the best procedure
will be for each Federal Reserve Bank to write to
the financing institutions, requesting them to physically cancel the guarantee agreements in question,
in the manner specified above, and to advise the
Iederal Reserve Bank that this has been done. The




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"'Federal Reserve Bank should then cancel its copies
in the same manner.
'4. It is requested that all the Federal Reserve banks be asked to forward to the War Department
at their early convenience a list of all guarantee
agreements that have been so cancelled, and that thereafter they inform the War Department each time an executed guarantee is so cancelled.'
"In accordance with the fourth paragraph of the War DepertMent's memorandum, it will be appreciated if you will forward to
ithe Board at your early convenience for transmittal to the War
DePartment a list of all guarantee agreements executed by your
bank on behalf of the War Department which have been cancelled
as the result of their termination. It will also be appreciated if in the future you will advise the Board of each such
cancellation of an executed guarantee agreement in order that
we maY transmit advice thereof to the War Department."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Colonel John C. Yiechem, Chief of the 1:dscellaneous
Branch; Fiscal Division,
War Department, reading as follows:
"Referring to our letter of August 21, 1942, in
exPlanation of how
charges for various expense items
.incurred by the
Federal Reserve Banks on behalf of the
War Department
pursuant to Executive Order 9112 are de'erldined, and to your telephone request with respect
thereto, our instructions to the Federal Reserve Banks
Provide as follows:
'No portion of the salary of the President
or First Vice President should be charged to the
"Fiscal Agency, Custodianship, and Depositary"
function as a reimbursable expense, and no Portion
Of the salary
of any other senior officer (including Branch Managing Director) should be charged to
a unit of the "Fiscal Agency, Custodianship, and
Depositary" function as a reimbursable expense unless he devotes as much as 20 per cent of his time
to such unit.'
"Pursuant to this instruction, no Federal Reserve Bank
will ask for reimbursement for any portion of the salary of
8
„; senior officer of the Bank unless he devotes as much as
<"? Per cent of his time to work performed as fiscal agent
lopr the United
States pursuant to Executive Order 9112 on
ehaaf of the War Department, Navy Department and idaritime




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"Commission, and no reimbursement will be reouested for any
portion of the salary of the President or First Vice President of the Bank.
"We are today writing a letter to the Federal Reserve
Banks advising thou,
. that it is the desire of the War Department that no furniture and eauipment be purchased by the Bank
for use in connection with work performed for the War Department pursuant to
Executive Order 9112 without first obtaining approval of the War Department. A copy of our letter to
the Federal
Reserve Banks is enclosed."
The letter to the Presidents of the
Federal Reserve Banks referred to in the
last paragraph of the letter to Colonel
Liechem read as follows:
. "Colonel Mechem of the War Department recently advised
US
informally thiA one or two of the Federal Reserve Banks
had
requested reimbursement for the cost of furniture pur_
chased
for use in connection with work performed for the War
Department pursuant to Executive Order 9112. he stated that
he would
prefer not to have to maintain an inventory record
Of
furniture and equipi,ent purchased by the Reserve Banks as
fiscal agents of the War Department, and hoped that such purchases could be avoided.
. "If your Bank finds that it does not have furniture and
equipment which it can use on a rental basis in handling work
for the -vjar
Department or finds it impracticable to purchase
furniture and
eouipment for its own account to be used on a
rental basis in connection with work performed for the War DePartment, it will be appreciated if you will write us with respect thereto
giving full details. Upon receipt of your letter
we will take the matter
up with the War Department to see what
Procedure can be worked
out for acquiring the necessary furniture and
equipment."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Sanford, Manager of the Foreign Department of
the Pederal Reserve Bank of New York, reading as follows:
"Az requested in your letter of September 11, the
Boexcl
has increased to a total of 6350,000,000 the authorit_
Y given to your bank in the Board's telegram of




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"December 16, 1941, as amended by its letter of Ley 252
1942, to purchase United States Government securities
for the account
of foreign central banks and governments."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Lr. Clerk, First Vice President of the Federal
Reserve Bank
of San Francisco, reading as follows:
.
"Rotel September 12, Board approves your recommendation that during
war emergency any nonmember bank in Hawaii
or Alaska be permitted to carry an account with Federal Reserve Bank of
San Francisco through which no transactions
Will be
permitted except those arising from book transfers
to and from a member bank for the nonmember bank's own account. Governor
IcKee is writing Walsh of American Security
Bank, Honolulu,
suggesting he get in touch with you. Please
advise Board when arrangemen
ts have been completed."




Approved unanimously.
Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

P

dtilL

fic4,
Vice Chairman.