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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Systern was held in Washington on Friday, October 9, 1936, at 10:50 a. m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Davis

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Vest, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Dreibelbis, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Gardner, Research Assistant, Division
of Research and Statistics
Mr. Wyatt stated that members of the Board had been served in
the auit,
to which reference was made at the meeting on October 6, 1936,
to enjoin the members of the Board from the "further exercise of the
Power to coin money and regulate the value thereof other than in ace°rdance with the provisions of the Constitution of the United States
of America, etc."; that he had discussed with Mr. George P. Barse, Couneel to the Comptroller of the Currency, and Mr. Bernard Bernstein of

the office of counsel to the Secretary of the Treasury, the question of
the Procedure that should be followed; and that they were all agreed
that the case should be referred to the Department of Justice as a routine matter.

Mr. Wyatt expressed the feeling, with which he said Mr.

Bernstein agreed, that it would be desirable to seek the disposition of




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the ease through motion to dismiss on technical grounds.

However, Mr.

Wyatt stated, the Comptroller of the Currency was of the opinion that
the suit offered an opportunity for e decision on the question of the
constitutionality of the Federal Reserve Act, that, therefore, the case
should be made a test case in order to bring about a final disposition
Of that
question, and that he proposed to call on the Attorney General
of the
United States and state that view and had requested Messrs. Barse
and Wyatt to accompany him for that purpose.
During the discussion which followed
the members of the Board expressed agreement with the opinion held by Mr. Wyatt,
and it was agreed unanimouay that Chairman Eccles should discuss the matter with
Mr. Herman Oliphant, Gener81 Counsel of
the Treasury Department; that Mr. Wyatt
should advise the Comptroller of the Currency of the Board's position in the matter; and that, if it appeared to be necessary, Mr. Wyatt should accompany the Comptroller of the Currency on his visit to
the Attorney Genernl, or call upon the
Attorney General separately, for the purpose of stating the Board's views.
It was also agreed unanimously that,
with the action taken at
accordance
in
the meeting of the Board on October 6,
1936, and in order that the Attorney
General may be formally advised as soon
as possible of the filing of the suit,
a letter should be sent promptly to the
Department of Justice referring the suit
to the Department as a routine matter.
Chairman Eccles referred to the discussion at the meeting of

the
Board

on October 6, 1936, with respect to the proposed conference




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with Messrs. Harrison, Sproul and
Knoke of the Federal Reserve Bank of
New York for the purpose of discussing the procedure to be
followed
With regard •to the relationshi
ps and transactions entered into by the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York with foreign banks or bankers under
the

provisions of Section 14(g) of the Federal Reserve Act, and stated

that, in accordance
with the suggestion made at that meeting, he had conferred with the Secretary of the Treasury regarding
a procedure that might
be
adopted by which the Board could be kept currently advised of important

developments within the knowledge of the Treasury which might enter

into or
affect the determination of questions of policy for which the
E°1111d is responsible. The Secretary reviewed for his information, Chairman Eccles stated, certain activities in the
field of currency stabilization but requested that he treat the information as confidential for
the time being as none of the matters involved
any responsibility at
this time on the part of the Board.

Chairman Eccles stated that, in

the event the Board were requested to take any action in connection therewith, all of the details would be furnished in sufficient time, and he
71°111d be in a position to advise
with the members of the Board and inform them of all of the details of the matter, so as to enable the Board
to reach a considered
decision.
Mr. McKee stated that he had no objection to such an arrangement
el3r the time being but that he would not be willing to agree to a con,




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tinuing procedure under which the Board would not be currently informed
on matters handled by the Treasury Department which affect the fields
in which the Board has a responsibility.
Chairman Eccles stated that he had suggested to the Secretary
of the Treasury that it might be desirable for the Secretary, Assistant
Secretary of the Treasury Wayne C. Taylor, and the Chairman and Vice
Chairman of the Board of Governors to meet weekly for the purpose of
exchanging information and discussing matters which have an effect
•

upon the respective activities and responsibilities of the Treasury
Department and the Board of Governors, and that if such a procedure
were followed, there would be a current discussion and exchange of in-formation on matters of common interest, as a result of which the Chairman and Vice Chairman of the Board would be in possession of any information or background that might be necessary to enable the Board to
take carefully considered action on any problem that might be presented
in connection with which the activities of the Treasury Department
should be given consideration.

Mr. Eccles said he had also suggested

thni- 7Ar.
Goldenweiser, Director of the Board's Division of Research
and Statistics and Mr. Gardner maintain close contacts with Messrs.
I4aas and White of the Treasury's Division of Research and Statistics
aild Mr. Lochhead, Technical Assistant to the Secretary of the Treasury,
°n international problems and matters of domestic credit in which the




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Board and the Department are mutually interested.
Following the discussion, Chairman
Eccles stated that he would have a further meeting with the Secretary of the
Treasury on Tue:day, October 13, for the
purpose of giving further consideration
to the suggestion and it was agreed that
following the Chairman's conference with
Secretary Morgenthau an outline would be
prepared of the procedure to be discussed
with Messrs. Harrison, Sproul and Knoke
of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
with respect to relationships and transactions entered into by the New York bank
under the provisions of Section 14(g) of
the Federal Reserve Act.
There was then presented a memorandum dated October 8, 1936,
from Mr. Gardner, Research Assistant in the Division of Research and
Statistics,
stating that, in accordance with the action taker at the
Illeeting of the Board on October 6

1936, he had called upon Mr. Herbert

Fels, Economic Adviser to the State Department, and, at his suggestion,
hed discussed in some detail with Mr. Livesey, Assistant Economic Adviser, and Mr. Harrison of the Division of Eastern European Affairs in
Charge of Polish matters, the letter from President Harrison of the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York dated September 29, 1936, with respect
t° foreign exchange control by the Polish Government.

The memorandum

11130 stated that it developed during the discussions that the State
Department had had under consideration for some time the question what
action should be taken in the case of default or partial default on
interest payments on Polish loans held in the United States; that the




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question about which the Department was chiefly concerned is that of
Possible discrimination against American creditors as compared with
Creditors in other countries, that inquiries had been made abroad and
Present information indicated that most foreign creditors of Poland
would be paid on a more favorable basis, and that if such a situation
occurs it is probable that the State Department will register a vigor°u

protest.

The memorandum further reported that the State Depart-

ment was not informed of a creditors'
meeting in London and contemplated
no direct action to arrange for American representati
on should a meeting take place, that the Department might, however, raise the question
With the Foreign Bondholders Protective
Council as to what was being
done along
these lines; and that Mr. Livesey had suggested that, in
this connection, it might be helpful to have available President Harri8°11's letter of September 29 and any further relevant information that
Illight develop.

The memorandum suggested that, therefore, the Board

1114Y wish to consider (1) sending a copy of President Harrison's letter
to the State Department for its information, and (2) requesting the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York to send the Board any further infor1114.41
"of significance which it might receive with regard to the situation
in order that the Board may, in its discretion, transmit this inictrmation to the State Department.




After a discussion of the suggestions
contained in Mr. Gardner's memorandum, Mr.

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to furnish Mr. Livesey informally with a
copy of President Harrison's letter of September 29, and that the Secretary be requested to prepare and circulate among the
members of the Board for approval a draft of
letter to President Harrison advising him
that a copy of his letter had been handed informally to the State Department and that the
Board will communicate with him in due course
in the event further action by the New York
bank is desired in the matter.
Carried unanimously.
At this point Messrs. Thurston, Wyatt, Vest, Dreibelbis and

Gardner left the meeting and consideration was then given to each of the
matters hereinafter referred to and the action stated with respect thereto was
taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System held on October 8, 1936, were approved unanimously.
Telegrams to Messrs. Kimball and Clark, Secretaries of the Federal
Reserve Banks of New York and Atlanta, respectively, stating that the
Board approves the establishment without change by the New York bank on
0et°13er 8, 1936, and by the Atlanta bank today, of the rates of discount
and Purchase in their existing schedules.
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated October 7, 1936, from Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel,
recommending that Miss Allene Herring, a stenographer in the Legal Division,
be authorized to take as sick leave any amount of time not exceeding the
e'mount of sick leave to which she is entitled, twelve days, and which may

be necessary on account of the last illness and impending death of her
mother.




Approved unanimously.

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-8Letter to Mr. Young, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of

Boston, reading as follows:
"Reference is made to your letter of October 2 in regard to the forthcoming annual meeting of stockholders of
the Federal Reserve bank to be held in Boston on November
12.
"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
approves the expenditure authorized by the Board of Directors of your bank in connection with the reimbursement of
any member bank represented at the meeting for the amount
expended by not more than one representative of such bank
for railroad fare and Pullman accommodation in attending
the meeting."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the presidents of all Federal reserve banks, reading
as follows:
"Replies have been received from all of the Federal
reserve banks in response to letter X-9693 of September 12,
1936, raising a question as to the desirability of continuing
tne practice now followed by the Board of forwarding by mail
confirmations of all telegrams sent to Federal reserve banks
or branches.
"Inasmuch as none of the reserve banks offered any objection to the discontinuance of the practice referred to, and
since this course appears to be in the interests of economy
and efficiency, the Board hereafter will not forward confirmations of telegrams to Federal reserve banks and branches, except in special cases when the circumstances warrant a departure
from the customary procedure."
Approved unanimously.
Thereupon the meeting adjourned.
'
Secretary.
APProved:




Chairman.