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Minutes for October 7, 1958

To:

Members of the Board

'to: Office of the Secretary
Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard
to the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will
advise the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, if you
vere present at the meeting, please initial in column A below to indicate that you approve the minutes.
If you were not present, please initial in column B
below to indicate that you have seen the minutes.
A
Chm. Martin
Gov. Szymczak
Gov. Vardaman
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov, Shepardson




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Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Syste
on Tuesday, October 7, 1958.

The Board met in the Special Library at

10:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Balderston, Vice Chairman 1/
Vardaman
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Fauver, Assistant Secretary
Thurston, Assistant to the Board
Thomas, Economic Adviser to the Board
Hackley, General Counsel
ns
Masters, Director, Division of ExRminatio
Board
the
to
Molony, Special Assistant
Farrell, Associate Director, Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Conkling, Assistant Director, Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Noyes, Adviser, Division of Research and
Statistics
Research
Mr. Koch, Associate Adviser, Division of
and Statistics
Mr. Solomon, Assistant General Counsel
of
Mr. Nelson, Assistant Director, Division
Examinations
of
Mr. Benner, Assistant Director, Division
Examinations
ion
, Chief, Capital Markets Section, Divis
Brill
Mr.
of Research and Statistics
Mr. Hooff, Assistant Counsel

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Discount rates.

telegram to
Unanimous approval was given to a

ut
the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston approving the establishment witho
change by that Bank on October

6,

and
1958, of the rates on discounts

advances in its existing schedule.
Items circulated to the Board.

The following items, which had

been circulated to the members of the Board and copies of which are
attached to these minutes under the respective item numbers indicated,
were a

roved unanimously:

1/ Entered meeting at point indicated in minutes.




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-2Item No.

Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York regarding
the examination of The First Bank of Boston (International),
New York, New York, made as of August 18, 1958.

1

Letter to The Richland Trust Company, Mansfield, Ohio,
aPProving an additional investment in bank premises. (For
transmittal through the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland)

2

Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland expressing
the opinion that the maintenance of certain storage vault
facilities by The Richland Trust Company, Mansfield, Ohio,
would not constitute the operation of a branch.

3

In connection with approval of the letter to the Federal Reserve
Bank of New York (Item No. 1) regarding the examination of The First Bank
Of Boston (International), Governor Mills said that as far as he could
Observe this Edge Act corporation is being operated in exemplary fashion
under strict compliance with the provisions of Regulation K while Bank
Of America, New York, is more aggressive and far-reaching in the scope
or the transactions it handles.

In both instances, he pointed out, the

Edge Act corporations are in essence agents of their parent banks; in
effect, they operate in New York City as the foreign departments of the
Parent banks.

Thus, as brought out by various studies, they are in

e°mPetition with the foreign departments of New York City banks and also
with certain other institutions engaged in similar financing activities.
While it might be that the problem was insoluble as long as Edge Act
corporations continued in existence, he hoped that some lines of demarcation could be drawn.

If such lines could be drawn, he felt that they

limald have to be related primarily to the question of what is incidental
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an Edge Act corporation's foreign business.

It had always been his

concept that such corporations were intended to function as domestic
as domestic
outposts for business to be transacted abroad rather than
corporations drawing business from abroad.

In other words, their

trade and
Purpose, as he understood it, was to foster American export
they were not intended to be used as vehicles for the financing
import trade.

of

Mills said,
The longer the problem persisted, Governor

the more difficult it would become.

It appeared to him that either the

operations of Edge Act corporations would have to be restricted to conform
more closely to the original Congressional intent or the Board would be
statutory
Obliged to recommend to the Congress a broad expansion of the
authority for otherwise, in his view, the Board was placed in the position
constantly of sanctioning deviations from the purposes of the statute.
the Division of
It was noted that the memorandum requested from
a, New York,
2x8minations on the scope of the activities of Bank of Americ
the questions
had now been distributed, that it touched somewhat on
afford an
raised by Governor Mills, and that consideration of it might
appropriate occasion for further discussion of those questions.
from the meeting.
Messrs. Nelson and Hooff then withdrew
Margin regulations (Item No.

4).

Prior to the meeting there had

of letter to the Federal
been distributed to the members of the Board a draft
possible unreported and
Reserve Banks, prepared by Mr. Solomon, discussing
unrecognized increases in stock mnrket credit as the result of weaknesses




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in the provisions of Regulation U or inadequate compliance with its
provisions and suggesting possible remedial steps.

It was contemplated

that a somewhat similar letter might be sent to the Comptroller of the
Currency and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.
In response to statements by Governors Robertson and Vardaman
indicating that before entering into discussion of the letter itself
they would like to have a discussion of the seriousness of the problem,
Mr. Solomon stated that the suggested letter had been prepared for the
Board's consideration on the premise that a problem existed mui that
he had not attempted to inquire into the magnitude of the problem.
in
Mr. Thomas stated that the present situation -- the increase
stock market activity, the rise in stock prices, and the movement from
ation
bonds into stocks -- presented an atmosphere conducive to acceler
Of the speculative boom through increasing use of credit.

For people

various
nting to speculate, there was a great inducement to find
devices for doing so.

had
From persons in the financing field, he

heard stories that this was going on to a very considerable extent;
that is, people were said to be finding all kinds of devices for
getting into the stock market.

A part of this took the form of

Shifting from liquid assets and it appeared that a substantial
system, but
amount of money was available from outside the banking
anYthing the banks might be doing would contribute to the problem.

The

thought behind a letter such as presented to the Board for consideration
therefore was to obtain information and at the same time issue a warning




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that the bank supervisory authorities were alive to the possibility of
evasion, with an intimation that the rules might be tightened if it were
found that a problem existed in this respect.
Governor Vardaman agreed with Mr. Thomas' comments about the
general atmosphere of speculation but said he thought it would be
desirable to separate the idea of a warning from an effort to get
additional information.

An alternative approach might be to get the

information first and bring such data before the Board for its consideration.

At that point, he said, the Board would be in a better

Position to consider the issuance of a warning letter.
Governor Mills expressed concern about involving the Federal
Reserve Banks in a spot-checking operation which could produce an
unfavorable reaction.

On the one hand, he observed, the Federal

Reserve System has regulatory responsibilities, but on the other hand
it has a broad responsibility to accommodate the various elements of
the financial community as much as possible and to avoid harassing
tactics.

It appeared to him that the proposals contained in the

suggested letter dealt with minutiae and not with the Board's major
responsibility in this field; namely, the responsibility for the
level of margin requirements.

From available statistics, he could

of
4c3t find evidence to suggest a serious problem in the area
4°nPurpose loans.
Mr. Koch recalled that in 1955, at the request of the Senate
4nking and Currency Committee, which was then engaged in a study of the




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stock market, the Federal Reserve Banks were asked to make a spot surveyregarding the use of nonpurpose loans.

Such information could be gathered

quite promptly, he felt, if it was thought desirable.
Following further discussion of the difficulty involved in
Obtaining information about the use of nonpurpose loans, Governor
Shepardson said that he was concerned about the possible reaction to the
collection of information on this subject.

Merely checking with leading

banks might carry with it an implication that the Board was contemplating
action.

It was the implication of a threat which concerned him and he

wondered whether there was some other way in which information could be
obtained.
Mr. Noyes referred to the information obtained on mortgage warehousing operations and suggested the possibility of a somewhat similar
series on nonpurpose loans.

While this approach would not answer all of

the questions, it would give additional insight into haw this particular
segment of credit was behaving.
After some discussion of this possibility and its limitations,
Governor Vardaman inquired whether the bank examiners could shed any
light on the subject through discussions with the bank officials in the
course of examinations.

Mr. Masters replied that he thought quite a bit

could be accomplished in this manner but that he did not think this approach
would produce quantitative information.
At this point Governor Robertson suggested a two-pronged approach.
Pirst, he suggested that the Vice President in charge of Examinations at
each Reserve Bank be contacted, and also the Comptroller of the Currency,




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to Obtain views on the extent to which the proceeds of nonpurpose loans
are being used to finance the purchasing or carrying of registered stocks.
This would involve talking with chief and senior examiners but it would not
involve going outside the supervisory agencies.

It should be possible to

obtain reactions of this kind, he thought, within a week or 10 days.
Second, while that process was going on, the Board should consider
Whether the present coverage of the margin regulations was adequate, and
Particularly whether the withdrawal and substitution rule should be
tightened.

the
For this purpose it might be desirable to send members of

staff to New York to study the effect on market operations of a change in
the rule.

be
With the accomplishment of these two steps the Board would

in a better position to act, if it so desired, following the Chairman's
return.
strict
There ensued some discussion of the nature and effect of a
Withdrawal and substitution rule, following which consideration was given
to the proposals advanced by Governor Robertson.

At the conclusion of

to
the discussion it was agreed that a communication would be addressed
the President of each of the Reserve Banks asking for the Bank's views
regarding the volume of credit going into the stock market as the result
Of evasion or avoidance of the provisions of Regulation U.

These views

Bank Examinations
Were to include those of the Vice President in charge of
and the Chief Examiner but were to be furnished without consultation with
Persons outside the Bank.

It was understood that the Office of the

Comptroller of the Currency would be contacted by Governor Robertson with




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a view to obtaining similar comments.

With regard to the sending of

staff members to New York to study the effects of changes in the margin
regulations, it was understood that Messrs. Thomas, Hackley, and Young
would recommend to the Board which members of the staff should unnertake
such an assignment.
Secretary's Note: Subsequent to the meeting
and in accordance with the above action, there
was sent to the President of each of the Reserve
Banks a telegram in the form attached to these
minutes as Item No. 4.
At this point all of the members of the staff withdrew except
Messrs. Hackley, Masters, Solomon, Kenyon, and Fauver.
Firstamerica.

Mr. Hackley presented to the Board the results

for
Of efforts by the Legal Division to obtain a suitable hearing officer

the hearing ordered by the Board on the application of the Firstamerica
nia
Corporation to acquire 80 per cent of the voting stock of the Califor
Bank.

employee of the
The choice had narrowed to two individuals, one an

Jensch,
Department of Commerce, Mr. Herman Tocker, and the other Mr. S. W.
an employee of the Atomic Energy Commission.

Mr. Tocker is not on the

pointed out
Civil Service Register of hearing examiners but Mr. Hackley
officer
that he need not have such status in order to serve as hearing

in the Firstamerica hearing.
examiners.

approved
Mr. Jensch is on the roster of

ndations from those at the
Both men had received high recomme

made.
Civil Service Commission with whom contact had been
during which Governor Balderston
At the conclusion of a discussion,
ments
e
Joined the meeting, Mr. Hackley was authorized to conclud arrange
for the retention of Mr. Jensch as hearing examiner for this case subject




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to certain questions being resolved satisfactorily.

If those questions

were not resolved satisfactorily, Mr. Hackley was authorized to make
arrangements for the retention of Mr. Tocker.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.




Secretary's Note: Governor Shepardson today
approved on behalf of the Board a letter to
the Chairman of the Presidents' Conference
Subcommittee on Retention and Disposal of
Records agreeing to an arrangement for
disposal of older copies of the Daily Letter
to the Board of Governors held at the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York, in reliance upon
copies being available in the Board's files.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No. 1
10/7/58

WASHINGTON 25, D. C.
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDIENCli
TO THE BOARD

October 7, 1958

Mr. R. B. Wiltse, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of New' York,
New York 45, New York.
Dear Mr. Wiltse:
This will acknowledge receipt of two copies of the
report of examination of The First Bank of Boston (International),
New York, New York, made as of August 18, 19580 by Mr. John J.
Quinn, in his capacity as a Federal Reserve Examiner.
It is noted that the affairs of the Corporation
appear to be conducted in a generally satisfactory manner and,
at this time, are considered to be conducted in accordance with
the provisions of Regulation K.
It is also noted that certain deposit accounts listed
at the previous examination as of August 23, 1957, which were
considered to be nonconforming with the requirements of Section 6(b),
Regulation K0 have been eliminated or otherwise corrected.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon
Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
F THE

Item No. 2
10/7/58

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENLE
TO THE BOARD

October 7, 1958

Board of Directors,
The Richland Trust Company,
Mansfield, Ohio.
Gentlemen:
Federal
Pursuant to your request, submitted through the
, under
approves
s
Reserve Bank of Cleveland, the Board of Governor
investan
Act,
Reserve
the provisions of Section 24A of the Federal
result
will
which
Company
ment in bank premises by The Richland Trust
capital
the
by
ted
represen
in an aggregate investment of $629,939.52,
, and
stock of The Richland Building Corporation carried at $300,000
wholly
its
and
ion
Corporat
the indebtedness of The Richland Building
aggregate amount
owned affiliate, the R-T Building Corporation, in the
°f $329,939.52.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon
Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

t3Q

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
cot.;44x
oq,9,
4'F.A.77t41',0%
A4,

OF THE

Item No.

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

3

10/7/58

WASHINGTON 25, D. C.
ADDRESS OrFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

hialLins%

October 7, 1958

lb. Paul C. Stetzelberger, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland,
Cleveland 1,
Ohio.
Dear Mr.
Stetzelberger:
Reference is
the a
pplication of The
Illission to establish a
4)e known as Boulevards

made to your letter of August 26, 1958, submitting
Richland Trust Company, Mansfield, Ohio, for perbranch at 452 West Cook Road, Mansfield, Ohio, to
Office No. 2.

It is noted that the proposed "branch" will consist of a storage
:
1:
t 12 X 20 feet underneath the rear portion of the building leased by
bankk through its wholly-owned affiliate, to the U. S. Post Office
'I'Irrtment, which is separated from the bank's Boulevard Office at 460
021' Cook Road by a parking lot. It is further noted that the property
,:!urded by the branch, the parking lot, and the Post Office Building, is
d by the bank through its affiliate.

Z

The Board has previously held that a facility located on bank°%Ited Property with a 65-foot lot intervening is not a branch, but that
8__-Lnere should be any change in the ownership or use of the intervening
Tree the question would require reconsideration. (Also see FRLS #3561.1.)
114,request
of The Richland Trust Company involves a somewhat similar sit,
;
°n, and the Board does not consider that the proposed vault facilities
/70
,4.1.d
constitute a branch.
While the Board of Governors does not look with favor upon the
**ant._
through
th-7(Iction involving the acquisition of the post Office building,
wiiluankts
building
the
that
fact
the
of
view
wholly-owned affiliate, in
poe be Partially used for banking purposes, no objection will be inter0 its retention.




Very truly yours,

Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

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TELEGR AM
LEASED WIRE SERVICE

Item No.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON

October
E
RICKSON
HAYES
BOpp
PULTON

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BOSTON
NEW YORK
PHILADELPHIA
CLEVELAND

LEACH
BRYAN
ALLEN
JOHNS

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RICHMOND
ATLANTA
CHICAGO
ST. LOUIS

DEMING LEEDY IRONS MANGELS-

10/7/58

7, 1958

MINNEAPOLIS
KANSAS CITY
DALLAS
SAN FRANCISCO

The Board
would be interested to learn the views of your bank as to
Idlether a substantial volume of credit is going into the stock market
48 4

result of evasion or avoidance of Regulation U provisions.

4ecif1cally (1) whether the proceeds of loans by commercial banks
secured by stocks have been used to purchase or carry registered stocks
asePite the filing of a "non-purpose" statement by the borrower, and
(2) wh
ether the proceeds of other types of loans, such as unsecured
credit lines, are
also being used to finance the purchasing and
ca "4r-mr
--- -ng of securities. The views of your Vice President in charge
Of bank examinations and your Chief Examiner on both these points would
be help„,
1., Particularly their impressions concerning bank lending
"
Pract4
-J-ces and other recent developments in this area. The observations
NUested should be furnished without consultation with commercial bank
(3fricers and should be in Board's hands prior to October 15.




(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon
KENYON

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