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Minutes of actions taken by the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System on Friday, October 30, 1953. The Board met
in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Szymczak, Acting Chairman
Vardaman
Mills
Robertson
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Carpenter, Secretary
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Thurston, Assistant to the Board
Riefler, Assistant to the Chairman
Leonard, Director, Division of Bank
Operations

There was presented a request that Mr. Benner, Assistant Director, Division of Examinations, be authorized to travel to Atlanta,
Georgia, during the period November 1-4, 1953, to survey the Bank Examination Department of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta and meet
with the examining staff.
Approved unanimously.
The Secretary reported having received a telephone call and an
informal memorandum, dated October 29, 1953, from Mr. Bill McDonald, Director of Sales Operations, United States Savings Bonds Division, Treasury
Department, who inquired whether the Board would be willing to pay the
cost, estimated at approximately $4751 of a luncheon to be given at a
local hotel in connection with a National Savings Bonds Conference on
November 4 and 5, 1953. The conference, to be attended by State directors,
State chairmen, and other volunteer leaders from all parts of the United




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States, was to be held for the purpose of presenting a program for
stepping up sales of savings bonds during the coming year.
The matter was discussed in the light of the discussion when
a similar request was approved by the Board on March 12,

1953.

At that

time Chairman Martin stated that he had discussed the general question
with Mr. Burgess, Deputy to the Secretary of the Treasury, and that it
was agreed that he and Mr. Burgess would meet with Secretary of the
Treasury Humphrey for the purpose of trying to develop a more satisfactory approach to the problem of savings bond luncheon and dinner expenses.
It was the consensus of the members of the Board present that
some other way should be worked out to handle expenses of this kind,
that it would be desirable for Chairman Martin to discuss the matter
further at the Treasury, and that the Board should take the position
that, after Congress had convened and the Treasury had had an opportunity
to present a proposal that such expenditures be covered by appropriations,
the Board should not approve additional expenditures of Federal Reserve
funds for this purpose.




Thereupon, the payment of the
cost of the luncheon on November 5
was approved unanimously, with the
understanding that the Secretary
would inform Chairman Martin of the
consensus of the meeting and that the
latter would so advise the Treasury
Department. It was also understood
that the cost of these luncheons during 1953 would be reported in the

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Board's annual report for the
current year.
Mr. Leonard reported on a meeting which he attended in the
office of Mr. Bartelt, Fiscal Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, on
October 28, 1953, with representatives of the Treasury and Post Office
Departments present, at which there was discussed a proposed procedure
under which the Federal Reserve Banks, as fiscal agents, would receive
deposits of surplus funds from United States postmasters. The manner
in which the plan would operate and the circumstances involved were
covered in a file memorandum prepared by Mr. Leonard under date of
October 29,

1953.

In the course of his remarks, Mr. Leonard said that Mr. Robertson, Assistant Postmaster General, who was present at the meeting in Mr.
Bartelt's office, indicated that the Post Office Department would like
to have the Federal Reserve institute a pilot operation, beginning January 1, 1954, at one or more of the Reserve Banks, mentioning particularly
Philadelphia, and that after the pilot program had been put into effect,
it might be reviewed by a System committee before the procedure was extended to other Reserve Banks.

Mr. Leonard also said that Mr. Bartelt

raised the question of reimbursement to the Reserve Banks for their expenses, pointing out that there were no appropriated funds for the purpose and that, more basically, the operation might be a depositary function to be handled without reimbursement. The meeting concluded,




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Mr. Leonard said, with Mr. Bartelt suggesting to Mr. Robertson that
the next step would be for the Postmaster General to write a letter
to the Secretary of the Treasury requesting that consideration be
given to the designation of the Federal Reserve Banks as fiscal agents
for the purpose of handling the deposits.

Mr. Leonard went on to say

that he suggested to Mr. Bartelt that he inform Mr. Young, Chairman of
the Presidents' Conference Committee on Fiscal Agency Operations, of
the proposed procedure.
In response to a question by Governor Szymczak, Mr. Leonard
said that no action on the part of the Board was required at this time.
He assumed that Mr. Bartelt would get in touch with President Young,
that the Treasury and Post Office Departments would work out jointly,
and then consider with the Federal Reserve Banks, what form of fiscal
agency agreement and what instructions to the Reserve Banks would be
appropriate, that the Treasury would keep the Board informed of developments, and that finally the Treasury would formally request the Reserve
Banks to act as fiscal agents for this purpose.

Mr. Leonard suggested

that the Board, through its staff, keep in touch with the Committee on
Fiscal Agency Operations and with the Treasury and Post Office Departments so that the Board might be currently advised of any developments.
There followed a general discussion of the proposed procedure
and of the broad questions involved in the performance of fiscal agency
operations by the Federal Reserve Banks.




In the course of the discussion,

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reference was made to the request made at an informal meeting of
members of the Board on August 18, 1953, that Mr. Vest, General
Counsel, prepare a memorandum reviewing the legal authority of the
Board over the activities of the Reserve Banks as fiscal agents, along
with a draft of legislation clarifying that authority. Such a memorandum was prepared by Mr. Vest under date of August 26, 1953, and
circulated to the members of the Board with a draft of a possible
amendment to the Federal Reserve Act which might be recommended to
the Congress.
It was understood that this subject, along with the question
whether fiscal agency activities of the Federal Reserve Banks should
be performed without reimbursement, would be given further consideration at a subsequent meeting of the Board.
Question also was raised whether the

proposal that the Reserve

Banks act as fiscal agents for the purpose of receiving deposits from
postmasters should be placed on the agenda for the next meeting with
the Federal Advisory Council to obtain the views of that group. It
was the consensus that that should not be done but it was understood
that there might be informal discussion of the matter should any member
wish to raise it during the meeting with the Council.
Governor Robertson referred to the study being made of various
questions in connection with the currency system of the United States,




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and in particular to the statement by Chairman Martin at the joint
meeting of the Board and the Reserve Bank Presidents on September 24,
1953, that the committee would include in its assignment a study of
the proposal of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to enter into a
contract with Brink's, Incorporated, for the shipment of new Federal
Reserve notes from Washington to New York by armored car and airplane.
He stated that earlier this week he, Mr. Leonard, Mr. Hexter, Assistant
General Counsel, and Mr. Daniels, Chief of the Reserve Bank Operations
Section, Division of Bank Operations, met with Assistant Postmaster
General Robertson and a member of his staff to discuss the possibility
of reducing the surcharge on shipments of currency by registered mail,
the thought being that if the rate could be reduced to a point where the
cost of registered mail shipment was not greatly in excess of the cost
of shipment under contract with private carriers, a continuation of shipment by registered mail might be indicated because of the superior protection afforded. He said Mr. Robertson agreed that the rate of surcharge
was not realistic and requested information from four Federal Reserve
districts with respect to costs of transporting currency to give him a
basis on which to determine what a reasonable surcharge would be.
Governor Robertson said that steps were being taken to obtain
the requested information but that he was reporting this development because in the circumstances no recommendation with respect to the proposal




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of the New York Bank could be expected for some time.
There were presented telegrams to the Federal Reserve Banks
of Boston, Kansas City, and San Francisco stating that the Board approves the establishment without change by the Federal Reserve Bank
of Boston on October 26, by the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
on October 272 and by the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City on
October 30,

1953, of the rates of discount and purchase in their ex-

isting schedules.
Approved unanimously.
The meeting then adjourned.

During the day the following ad-

ditional actions were taken by the Board with all of the members except
Chairman Martin and Governor Evans present:
Minutes of actions taken by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on October 27,

1953, were approved unanimously.

Minutes of actions taken by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on October 28 and

29, 1953, were approved and the

actions recorded therein were ratified unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Knoke, Vice President, Federal Reserve Bank
of New York, reading as follows:
Your wire October 29. Board approves granting of
loan or loans by your Bank to Banque Nationale de la Republique D'Haiti up to $1,000,000 on the following terms
and conditions:




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A. Such loan or loans to be made up to 98
per cent of the value of gold bars set
aside in your vaults under pledge to you.
B. Such loan or loans to run for three months
and to be renewable in your officers' discretion for a further period of three months
but not to mature later than May 31, 1954.
C. Such loan or loans to bear interest from the
date they are made until paid at the discount
rate of your Bank in effect on the date on
which such loan or loans are made.
It is understood that the usual participation will be offered
to the other Federal Reserve Banks.
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Knoke, Vice President, Federal Reserve Bank of
New York, reading as follows:
Your wire October 29. Board approves granting of loan
or loans by your Bank to the Bank for International Settlements not to exceed $25 million in the aggregate at any one
time outstanding on the following terms and conditions:
A. Each such loan or loans to be made up to 98
per cent of the value of gold bars to be set
aside at the time of each drawing under pledge
to you.
B. Each such loan to run for a period of not more
than seven days.
Each
such loan to bear interest from the date
C.
it is made until paid at the discount rate of
your Bank in effect on the date such loan is
made.
D. The loan arrangement to expire within three
months after the date on which you signify
to Bank for International Settlements your
willingness to extend these facilities, but
to be renewable in your officers' discretion
for a further period of three months, but not
to mature later than May 31, 1954.
It is understood that the usual participation will be offered to the other Federal Reserve Banks*




Approved unanimously.

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Letter to Mr. Michael E. Mooney, General Counsel, American
Stock Exchange, WIT York, New York, reading as follows:
This refers to your letter of October 21 concerning
the application of section 4(f)(4) of Regulation T. Briefly,
that section provides for a special miscellaneous account in
which a creditor may effect and finance, on a preferential
basis, transactions of registered odd-lot dealers, and also
transactions of joint adventures, the participants in which
are registered odd-lot dealers.
You asked whether a creditor may effect and finance in
a section 4(f)(4) account for an odd-lot dealer not only
odd-lot transactions in securities in which the dealer is
registered and with respect to which he acts as an odd-lot
dealer, but also transactions in round-lots in such securities in connection with the conduct of the dealer's business
as an odd-lot dealer. You asked particularly whether this
wand be proper in a section 4(f)(4) account even though
the creditor and the odd-lot dealer are not participants
in a joint adventure as described in the latter part of
section I(f)).
The Board is of the view that both questions should
be answered in the affirmative. It is recognized that
round-lot transactions in the securities in which the oddlot dealer is registered and with respect to which he acts
as an odd-lot dealer are frequently a necessary part of his
business as an odd-lot dealer. Accordingly, the Board does
not feel that any of the provisions of section 4(f)(4) should
be regarded as applying only to transactions in odd lots.
In your letter you pointed out that the functions of
odd-lot dealer and specialist are combined in the same person in the case of the American Stock Exchange. As you suggested, this raises the question as to whether the creditor
of the specialist-odd-lot dealer is required to handle transactions properly classifiable as odd-lot transactions in a
section 4(f)(4) account and handle the specialist transactions
separately- in conformance with section 4(g) of the regulation.
As a practical matter it is understood to be extremely
doubtful in such instances whether an adequate or suitable
separation can be made between the odd-lot transactions and




the transactions of the same individual as specialist. In
the circumstances and in view of the relationship in such
situations between the two types of activity of the customer,
it is the Board's view that it would not be improper if a
section 4(f)(4) account included specialist transactions as
well as the usual odd-lot transactions. Of course, no transaction should be included in a section h(f)(4) account other
than transactions in the securities in which the dealer is
registered as an odd-lot dealer.
A copy of this letter is being forwarded to the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York which is prepared to discuss the
regulation with persons who have questions with respect thereto. It is suggested that if you have any further questions
concerning the regulation, you may find it more convenient
to contact that Bank which will be glad to assist you.




Approved unanimously.