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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Systern was held in Washington on Saturday, October 3, 1936, at 11:00 a. m.
PRESENT:

Mr. Broderick
Mr. Szymczak
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman

Consideration was given to each of the matters hereinafter referred to and the action stated with respect thereto was taken by the
Board:
Memorandum dated October 2, 1936, from Mr. Goldenweiser, Direct°1
'of the Division of Research and Statistics, recommending the temporary
aPP°intment as a junior research assistant in the Division for a period
°f eight months of Mr. Robert Dwight Fenn, with salary at the rate of
$5°•°0 per month, effective as of the date upon which he enters upon the
Perf°Pmance of his duties. The question of the appointment of Mr. Fenn,
Who
la an intern of the National Institute of Public Affairs, was diseu"ed at the meeting of the Board on September 29, 1936.
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Sargent, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
talik of
San Francisco, reading as follows:
"Re your letter September 16, 1936, submitting application of 'Central Bank of Oaklendl, Oakland, California,
for permission to effect an adjustment of its capital accounts which will result in a net reduction of ,W0,000 in
outstanding capital. The Board, in view of the information
aubmitted, and your favorable recommendation, interposes no
°I3Jecti0n to the proposed transaction as outlined in your




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"letter and the bank's application, and waives full compliance
in this instance with the requirements of condition of membership numbered 18 to which bank is subject."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Fry, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Richmond,
reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter dated September 23, 1936,
regarding the question whether a member bank may classify a
deposit of The Glenwood Cemetery as a savings deposit under
the definition contained in section 1(e) of Regulation Q.
"It appears from your letter that The Glenwood Cemetery is a mutual organization operated for the purpose of supPlying burial facilities for its members and that each purchaser of a lot automatically becomes a member of the organization. It is further understood that no dividends or
Profits are paid to the members of the organization and that
all moneys over and above expenses go to an endowment fund,
the income from which is used for the upkeep of the cemetery
after all the lots are sold.
"You state that your Counsel is satisfied that the cemetery organization is not operated for profit, but is in doubt
as to whether it may be considered as an organization operated
Primarily for religious, philanthropic, charitable, educational, fraternal or other similar purposes.
"In its letter dated June 22, 1936 (X-9627), the Board
expressed the opinion that organizations engaged in the sale
and maintenance of cemetery lots may be considered as organizations operated primarily for religious, philanthropic,
Charitable, educational, fraternal or other similar purposes
within the meaning of section 1(e) of Regulation Q. Accordon the basis of the facts submitted in your letter,
it appears that The Glenwood Cemetery is an organization
Operated primarily for the above purposes and that deposits
of such organization may be classified by member banks as
savings deposits if they comply with the other requirements
of the regulation."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Honorable Leo T. Crowley, Chairman, Federal Deposit




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Insurance Corporation, reading as follows:
"This refers to a letter of August 25, 1936, addressed
by Mr. John Nichols on your behalf to Mr. Ransom, inclosing
a copy of a Regulation V which the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation proposes to issue with regard to the insurance
Of trust funds and requesting suggestions regarding the proposed regulation and advice as to whether or not it contains
anything that would appear objectionable.
"Members of the staff of the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation have heretofore conferred with members of the
Board's staff regarding two earlier drafts of this proposed
regulation; and, on June 18 and July 30, 1936, respectively,
members of the Board's staff furnished Judge Birdzell with
copies of informal memoranda containing suggestions regarding the two earlier drafts.
"The Board recognizes, of course, that the determination
of what provisions are to be included in the proposed regulation rests exclusively with your Corporation, and that the
determination of which, if any, of the suggested changes should
be adopted is a matter to be decided by your Corporation.
However, the Board is glad to respond to the request for an
expression of opinion regarding the proposed regulation and
to take this opportunity to express its views with regard
to certain of the more important matters heretofore discussed
by members of its staff with representatives of your Corporation.
"Section 2 of the proposed regulation recognizes that
an insured fiduciary bank may maintain with another bank a
t
general trust account' in which trust funds of more than
one trust estate may be deposited in the name of the insured
fiduciary bank, without identifying the trust estates which
are the beneficial owners of such funds and without allocating to such account on the records of the depositing insured
fiduciary bank trust funds in specific amounts belonging
to particular trust estates. The proposed regulation also
by
contemplates that such an account might be maintained
the trust department of an insured fiduciary bank in another
department of the same institution. It further appears
from section 5 of the proposed regulation that, where an
insured fiduciary bank maintains more than one 'general
trust account', the amount of the funds of a particular
trust estate which are carried in the 'general trust aczipcount! in a particular bank would be determined by the




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"plication of a mathematical formula which is described in
section E. It is understood that this mathematical formula
is based on a presumption that funds belonging to a particular trust estate are averaged among all of the 'general trust
accounts' maintained by the insured fiduciary bank. In
other words, the mathematical formula will be applied on the
theory that funds of a particular trust estate carried in
'general trust accounts' can properly be presumed to have
been distributed among all 'general trust accounts' on the
basis of the ratio of the amount of funds carried in each
'general trust account' to the total amount of funds carried
in all 'general trust accounts'.
"The Board feels that the maintenance by fiduciary institutions of 'general trust accounts' in the manner described
in the regulation is contrary to recognized principles relating to the administration of trusts. In this connection attention is invited to the following statement contained in
Bogert on Trusts, vol. 3, p. 1888:
'It is also a breach of trust of this type if
the trustee commingles two distinct trust funds. If
the same person is trustee of two trusts, even though
there is some identity in the personnel of the two
groups of cestuis, he should set up the trusts separately, tag the property of each with the appropriate
name, and keep the res of each trust distinct both
physically and with respect to all records and marks
of identification. He should not maintain a single
bank account for the two trusts, nor should he use
a mixed fund to purchase a mortgage as an investment.
There has been some tendency, however, to permit the
mingling of two or more trust funds in an investment,
provided the trustee keeps accurate books with regard to the shares of each trust, and each cestui is
given notice of his exact interest.'
"Attention is also invited to the following statement
contained in the Restatement of the Law of Trusts of the American Law Institute, vol. 1, p. 457:
'Where the trustee holds the funds of numerous
beneficiaries, and it would be unreasonable and not
subserve any purpose in protecting the interests of
the beneficiaries of the several trusts to require him
to keep separate the funds of the different trusts, it
may be proper for the trustee to mingle funds of the




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-5"different trusts by deposit thereof in a common
bank account. Thus, ordinarily a trust company can
properly deposit in a single trust account in another
bank the funds of several trusts, provided that it
keeps an accurate record of the contributions of the
f.fparate trusts. * * *

"The practice to which implied approval would be given
in the proposed regulation not only would violate these
Principles but also might result in actual inequities by
causing certain trusts to share in losses which they would
not be required to share in if these principles were adhered to. For examole, suppose that an insured fiduciary
bank maintains 'general trust accounts' with three other
insured banks, Bank A, Bank B and Bank C. Suppose that
the last deposit made by the insured fiduciary bank in a
general trust account with Bank A was made on September 1,
1936, that funds were received by a particular trust estate
on September 15, 1936, and that Bank A closed on account
of insolvency on September 30, 1956. In such a case it
could be demonstrated that none of the funds received by the
trust in question on September 15 could have been deposited
in the 'general trust account' maintained with Bank A, because the fiduciary bank made no deposit with Bank A after
such funds were received. In such a case the application
of the formula contained in the proposed regulation might
lead to inequitable results because it might require this
particular trust estate to share in a loss which it would
not have shared in if the fiduciary bank had kept records
identifying the particular trusts whose funds were deposited
in particular banks. In such a case an attempt to apply
the formula contained in the proposed regulation might result in expensive litigation involving:
, a number of different
trusts and the proposed regulation might be held to be invalid.
"Moreover, it appears that the provisions of the proPosed regulation relating to 'general trust accounts' and
for the application of the mathematical formula described
in section 5 of the 'proposed regulation do not contain any
Provision relating to funds which may be carried in the
trust department of an insured fiduciary bank. It is understood that in some instances so-called working balances are
carried in the trust departments of fiduciary institutions.
Although such balances may be in small amounts, it would
seem clear that if a trust institution does not show on its




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"books where the funds of particular trust estates are carried, it would not be possible to apply accurately the mathematical formula described in section 5 of the proposed regulation in a case where a balance is carried in the trust department of the insured fiduciary bank.
"It is understood that, in their discussions with the
members of the Board's staff, the representatives of your
Corporation recognized the fact that the maintenance of
'general trust accounts' may be in conflict with established
trust principles but felt that an existing situation must
be recognized and that provision must be made in the regulation for any such accounts which may be carried. However,
such a provision in the regulation would be a recognition
Of the practice of mingling trust funds in such accounts in
the manner described and might be construed as an approval,
or even encouragement, of the practice by an administrative
body charged with supervision of banking institutions.
"In the circumstances, the Board is of the opinion
that the proposed regulation is subject to serious objections. If, notwithstanding such objections, your Corporation decides that the regulation should contain provisions
relative to 'general trust accounts', it is suggested that
there be inserted a statement, perhaps in a footnote, that
such provisions are not to be construed as approving the
practice of mingling trust funds in such a manner and are
included in the regulation solely for the purpose of clarifying the status of any such accounts in the event of the
Closing of the banks in which they are carried.
"Your courtesy in affording the Board an opportunity
to express its views to you in this matter is greatly appreciated."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Wesley C. Mitchell, Director of Research, Nat10na1 Bureau of Economic Research, Inc., New York, New York, reading
as follows:
"This refers to your letter of August 7, addressed
to Chairman Eccles, in which you suggest that the call report of condition of State bank members of the Federal Reserve System be changed to make provision for reporting




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"separately the amount of real estate loans on urban residential property and on urban commercial property, respectively, instead of merely the total of urban real estate loans as
at present, and that the present item 'Other real estate
owned' be subdivided so as to show separately the amount
represented by farm land, by urban residential property, and
by urban commercial property.
"On June 30, 1936 State bank members of the Federal Reserve System reported $927,648,000 of real estate loans
Other than on farm land and national bank members reported
$1,156,374,000. The amount of 'Other real estate owned'
was reported as of the same date by State bank members as
195,442,000 and by national bank members as 1,h164,015,000.
Special data collected as of June 30, 1936 at the request
of the Department of Agriculture indicate that the reported
figures of 'Other real estate owned' included it11,331,000
and about 127,000,000, respectively, of farm real estate
owned by State and national bank members.
. "In view of the relatively large amounts involved, particularly in the case of real estate loans other than on
farm land, it doubtless would be of value to make the breakdowns suggested in your letter. Your suggestion has, therefore, been carefully considered. In that connection we have
been in touch informally with the offices of the Comptroller
of the Currency and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and we understand that the Comptroller of the Currency
has decided that he would not be warranted in asking national
banks to report the additional data, in view of the burden
of reports already imposed upon them. As you know, the forms
of call reports of national banks and of State bank members
are now substantially uniform and it has been the Board's
Policy to maintain this uniformity, insofar as practicable,
since it is obvious that comparable figures for all member
banks as a whole are of much greater value than any figures
that might be available for only one class of member banks.
"Apparently the suggested break-down of real estate
loans other than on farm land, so as to show separate figures
of loans on urban residential property and on urban commercial property, would not be sufficient since a certain amount
of reported real estate loans (other than on farm land) represent loans on such non-urban real estate as mining properties.
In order, therefore, to obtain the desired figures of real
estate loans on urban residential and on urban commercial
Properties, it would be necessary to subdivide the present




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"item into three parts, namely, urban residential property,
urban commercial property, and all other real estate (except
farm land). It may also be pointed out that there would be
certain difficulties of definition arising from the fact that
in a given community therc may be improved property which
is occupied partly for commercial purposes and partly for
residential purposes, and unimproved property which might be
Improved either for residential or commercial purposes.
"In view of the above considerations and of the additional burden which would be imposed upon State bank members
If they were requested to furnish the desired information,
the Board does not feel warranted in asking for it at this
time."
Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Assistant Secretary.

%roved: