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Minutes for October 29, 1957

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
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be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
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Chm. Martin
Gov. Szymczak
Gov. Vardaman
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson




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Minutes of actions taken by the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System on Tuesday, October 29, 1957.

The Board met in

the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Balderston, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
Vardaman
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Carpenter, Secretary
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Solomon, Assistant General Counsel
O'Connell, Assistant General Counsel
Benner, Assistant Director, Division
of Examinations

Certification filed by Hearing Examiner in Continental Bank and

TEHEILIETEy matter

(Item NO. 1).

Following discussion at the meeting

of the Board yesterday concerning the certification of the question of
holding conferences for settlement or simplification of issues which had
been filed with the Board by the Hearing Examiner in the matter of The
Continental Bank and Trust Company, Salt Lake City, Utah, Mr. Solomon
14As requested to submit a draft of statement and order reflecting views
expressed by the Board.

Such a draft was distributed at the beginning

of this meeting.
In the course of review of the proposed statement and order, a
few minor changes were agreed upon in the interest of presenting the
oard's position clearly and precisely.
Governor Robertson then inquired whether the statement and order
had been seen by Special Counsel to the Board.

When the reply was in the

Ilegative but it was stated that the content was understood to be in line




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with Special Counsel's general thoughts on the matter, the suggestion
was made that the statement and order be shown to Special Counsel before
being issued.
Thereupon, unanimous approval was given to a Statement and Order
in the form attached to these minutes as Item No. 1, subject to its being
seen by Special Counsel to the Board, with the understanding that copies
would be sent to the Hearing Examiner, to Respondent, to Counsel for
Respondent and Special Counsel to the Board, and to the Federal Reserve
Bank of San Francisco.
Secretary's Note: Advice having been received
that Special Counsel to the Board had no comments
with respect to the Statement and Order in the
form approved by the Board, copies were sent to
the aforementioned parties on October 29, 1957.
Messrs. O'Connell and Benner withdrew from the meeting at this
Point and the following members of the staff entered the room: Messrs.
Masters, Director, Hostrup, Assistant Director, and Thompson, Supervisory
Review Exsminer, Division of Examinations, Hexter, Assistant General
Counsel, and Davis, Assistant Counsel.
Items circulated to the Board.

The following items, which had

been circulated to the members of the Board and copies of which are
attached hereto under the respective item numbers indicated, were approved
unanimously:
Item No.
Letter to Old Kent Bank and Michigan Trust Company,
Grand Rapids, Michigan, approving the establishment
of a branch in Paris Township. (For transmittal
through the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago)




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-3Item No.

Letter to Old Kent Bank and Michigan Trust Company,
Grand Rapids, Michigan, approving a change in the
location of its Bridge Street Office. (For transmittal through the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago)

3

Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas regarding
the applicability of section 32 of the Banking Act of
1933 to interlocking relationships between The First
National Bank and Canadian Investment Group, both of
Canadian, Texas.

Letter to The First National Bank, Palestine, Texas,

5

'with further regard to the payment of interest on
demand deposits. (With a copy to the Federal Reserve
Bank of Dallas)
Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
concurring in the view that a proposed change in the
location of the Wilshire-Shatto office of the California
Bank, Los Angeles, California, would constitute the mere
relocation of an existing branch.

6

Applications to organize national banks at Grants, New Mexico.
The Comptroller of the Currency had requested the Board's views with
respect to applications to establish national banks at Grants, New Mexico,
filed by Mr. Phil C. Bennett and associates and by Mr. Sterling F. Black
and associates, respectively.

On the basis of field investigation, the

Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City suggested a favorable recommendation
vith respect to the Bennett application and an adverse recommendation
concerning the other application.

This being the conclusion of the Board's

Division of Examinations also, letters to the Comptroller of the Currency
to such effect had been circulated to the members of the Board for consideration.




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Governor Shepardson noted that the papers submitted by the
Kansas City Reserve Bank regarding the Black application put some
emphasis on the fact that a number of the proposed directors were from
outside the Grants area.

However, he said, the same situation pre-

vailed in the case of the Bennett application, several of the proposed
directors having places of residence, in fact, outside the State of
New Mexico.

He therefore raised the question whether, if the situation

Pertaining to the places of residence of the directors was considered
to constitute an adverse factor bearing upon the suggested recommendation
in the one case, the same thing would not be equally true in connection
With the other application.
In response, Mr. Masters commented that the investigation made
by the Reserve Bank developed favorable findings on the Bennett application from the standpoint of ownership, management, and capital, while
the findings on the Black application concerning those factors were not
so favorable.

In the case of the latter application, it appeared from

the data submitted by the Kansas City Bank that the proposed management
vaS lacking in banking experience, while the organizers of the other
bank apparently would provide fully competent management.
At the suggestion of Governor Robertson, it was then agreed to
defer action on the proposed letters until he had had an opportunity to
review the files relating to the respective applications, particularly
in the light of the question raised by Governor Shepardson.




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Question relating to certain subsidiaries of Beneficial Finance
Co. (Item No. 7).

Because of a proposed expansion of the operations of

two subsidiaries, namely, Beneficial Industrial Bank, Denver, Colorado,
and Beneficial Industrial Bank, Pueblo, Colorado, the Board had been
asked by Beneficial Finance Co., Wilmington, Delaware, to review the
status of the two Colorado banks, for if either one were deemed to
constitute a "bank" within the meaning of the Bank Holding Company Act
Of 1956, this would mean that Beneficial Finance Co. would be a bank
holding company and would be required to register under the Act.

According

to the information submitted to the Board through the Federal Reserve Bank
Of Philadelphia, it appeared that under Colorado law the two industrial
banks in question were entitled to accept savings deposits, but that they
were specifically forbidden to carry commercial or demand bank accounts.
When the Board on November 28, 1956, held that six subsidiaries of Beneficial Finance Co. were not, on the basis of operations conducted at that
time, to be regarded as banks within the meaning of the Bank Holding
Company Act, it was understood that the two industrial banks in question
limited their business to lending money and did not accept deposits or
issue investment certificates.

Under the proposed expansion plan, both

banks were understood to contemplate, in addition to a larger volume of
loans, the issuance of investment certificates.
In a memorandum from Mr. Davis dated October 25, 1957, copies of
141ich had been distributed to the members of the Board, the view was
exPressed that the two Colorado industrial banks apparently would continue,




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under the proposed plan, to operate essentially as lending agencies
specializing in small loans and that the issuance of the investment
certificates would not change the essential character of their
business.

The purchase of an instalment investment certificate would

seem to be merely security for a loan and the purchase of a fully-paid
certificate would appear to constitute an investment rather than a
deposit.

Accordingly, it did not appear to the Legal Division that

the proposed operations, as described, would cause the institutions
to be regarded as banks within the meaning of the Act, although admittedly the question involved was a troublesome one.

This conclusion,

the memorandum stated, would be in accord with the opinion of counsel
for the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.

Submitted with the memo-

randum was a draft of letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia
reflecting this point of view.
Governor Robertson stated that although the question was a close
one, he thought that the conclusion of the Legal Division was correct.
Since the problem of defining a "bank" under the Bank Holding Company
Act would arise again in the future, he felt that it should be given
consideration in connection with recommendations by the Board to the
Congress concerning the Act.
Governor Balderston agreed, stating that the present situation
seemed to contain the possibility of arrangements being made to circumvent
the provisions of the Bank Holding Company Act.




He then inquired whether,

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assuming a change in the statute, the Board by its rulings might have
created some situations that could not be eliminated at such time.
Governor Robertson replied that this would depend on how the
statute was changed.

On the basis of the existing statute, however,

he felt that the Board had no option except to follow the recommendation of the Legal Division.
At the conclusion of the discussion, unanimous approval was
given to the proposed letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia,
a copy of which is attached to these minutes as Item No. 71 with the
understanding that the problem involved in this case would be considered
by the Legal Division in presenting to the Board possible recommendations
to the Congress for amendments to the Bank Holding Company Act.
Application of Northwest Bancorporation.

After considering the

application of Northwest Bancorporation, Minneapolis/ Minnesota, filed
Pursuant to the Bank Holding Company Act, for prior approval of the
acquisition by it of 1,450 out of a total of 1,500 voting shares of the
Proposed Northwestern State Bank, Rochester, Minnesota, the Board decided
on August 201 1957, to defer action on the application and request the
Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis to furnish any additional information,
views, and comments it might have, particularly with respect to the matter
of the convenience, needs, and welfare of the community and area concerned

in relation to the competitive situation. An opportunity was also extended
to Mr. F. J. O'Brien, attorney for Olmsted County Bank & Trust Company,




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of Rochester, to submit a statement in writing in opposition to the
application.

While no response was received from Mr. O'Brien, the

Reserve Bank submitted additional information, on the basis of which
its favorable recommendation remained unchanged.
There had been distributed to the members of the Board prior
to this meeting copies of a memorandum from the Division of Examinations
dated October 23, 1957, reviewing the application in the light of all
of the data now available.

While it was felt that the additional

information received from the Reserve Bank made a stronger case for
the application from the standpoint of the convenience, needs, and
welfare of the area, it was noted that Northwest Bancorporation was
already represented in the city of Rochester, that approval of the
current application would give it 50 per cent of the banking offices
in the city, that Northwest Bancorporation and First Bank Stock
Corporation now have a dominant position in Rochester, and that, if
this application should be denied, it was possible that an independent
bank would be established in the area where the proposed Northwestern
State Bank would be located.

Since it appeared to the Division that

the adverse factors outweighed the favorable considerations when
considered within the meaning and purposes of the Bank Holding Company
Act, it was recommended, as it 110 been previously, that the application
be denied.

However, if an independent bank should not be established

within a reasonable time and if the need for an additional bank should




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become very strong, it was suggested that a new application by Northwest
Bancorporation could be considered under circumstances which might not
involve the question of running counter to the apparent intent and
Purpose of the bank holding company legislation.
In a memorandum dated October 24, 1957, copies of which also
had been sent to the members of the Board, the Legal Division expressed
the opinion that the issue continued to turn on whether the Board in its
judgment felt that the showing of convenience, needs, and welfare of the
area was sufficient to outweigh the resulting increase in the size and
extent of the applicant bank holding company's system, the dominant
Position of the two bank holding companies in the Rochester area, and the
Possible deterrent effect on the establishment of independent unit banks
in the particular area.

In the view of the Division, denial of the

aPPlication on the basis of the evidence now available would be a reasonable exercise of the Board's discretion and probably would be sustained
by the courts in the event of judicial review.

On the other hand, it

was believed that approval of the application would probably likewise
be sustained by a reviewing court as a reasonable exercise of the Board's
discretion.
In reviewing the matter, Mr. Masters said that, from the Division
of Examinations' analysis, as presented in its memorandum, the additional
information received from the Minneapolis Reserve Bank gave somewhat
Stronger support to considerations relating to the convenience, needs,




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and welfare of the area, the information pointed up community growth
and industrial development in the area where the proposed bank would
be established, and the situation with respect to downtown traffic
congestion and parking difficulties appeared a little more acute than
Previously pictured.

However, the information did not make it appear

that an urgent need for a bank existed in the area in question.

He

then referred to the already dominant position of two bank holding
companies in the city of Rochester and presented pertinent statistical
data bearing on that point.

With regard to deposit percentages, he said

that although an analysis of deposit ownership had not been made, in
view of the size of the city of Rochester, its location, and its general
Makeup, it seemed fair to conclude that the deposits were predominantly
Of local origin.
It did seem, Mr. Masters said, that at some time there would be
a bank in the area where the proposed Northwestern State Bank would be
located, and this bank possibly would be of independent origin.

Should

an independent bank not be established within a reasonable time, during
vhich the need for banking facilities became more urgent, a new application from Northwest Bancorporation might be considered by the Board,
and perhaps on a more favorable basis.

He also said that the Division

°f Examinations might have been more inclined to recommend approval of
the current application if Northwest was the only bank holding company
in the area.




However, it was the Division's view, based on its concept

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of the intent and purposes of the bank holding company legislation,
that the total picture should be taken into consideration from the
standpoint of the discouraging influence which might be exerted on
the establishment of an independent bank or banks.

In that sense,

favorable action on the current application would seem to defeat the
Purpose of the Bank Holding Company Act.
Governor Balderston, after asking a series of questions relating
to the position of the two bank holding companies in the Rochester area,
said it seemed to him that the argument of the Division of Examinations
turned in large part on the extent of control that would be in the
hands of those companies if the application were approved and the
difficulty which that would create for any independent group wishing
to establish a bank in the area.

At present, he pointed out, the per-

centage of deposits controlled by the subsidiary banks of the two holding
companies was very substantial.
Governor Vardaman inquired whether there was now any known plan
to establish an independent bank in the area.

When the response was in

the negative, he suggested that denial of the current application might
amount to stopping the wheels of progress.

He asked how long it would

be expected that the Board should wait to ascertain whether any independent bank was to be established.
Governor Vardaman then stated that although he wished to compliment

the Division of Examinations on the thoroughness of its analysis of the
aPPlication, he was in disagreement with the Division's position almost




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from start to conclusion.

He felt that the Board would be making a

grave mistake by injecting its opinions into the affairs of a community
like Rochester contrary to the recommendation of the Federal Reserve
Bank in the district.

This, he suggested, would amount to an effort

to regulate in a paternalistic fashion the interests of the community
over an indefinite period of time.

Therefore, he would vote to sustain

the recommendation of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis.
In response to a request for the views of the Legal Division,
Mr. Solomon said that, as indicated in the Division's memorandum, this
appeared to be a decision falling within the area of the Board's judgment
and discretion since the law did not require that the matter be resolved
either favorably or unfavorably.

It could be argued that the existence

of the other holding company (First Bank Stock Corporation) in the area
was not relevant to the situation involving Northwest Bancorporation.
However, the Legal Division, after weighing that argument very carefully
When the application first came before the Board, reached the conclusion
that it would be appropriate to take into account the entire banking
Picture.

On that basis, the Division continued to feel that it would

be a valid legal position for the Board to take if it should decide to
turn down the application.

On the other hand, this would seem to be

true also if the Board should decide to approve the application.
Governor Balderston then inquired of Mr. Solomon regarding
differences between this case and the application of Baystate Corporation
to acquire control of the Union Trust Company of Springfield,Massachusetts,




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and the latter said that there was quite a bit of difference from the
standpoint of the facts involved.

If the Baystate transaction were

subsidiary bank which
completed, the bank holding company would have a
bank would have
would be the largest in the community, and an existing
ent merger.
been wiped out through the stock acquisition and subsequ
cases, he felt
While there were some points of similarity in the two
that the facts were clearly distinguishable.
In response to a further question by Governor Balderston, Mr.
not be
Solomon said that because of the factual differences, he would
n
Particularly concerned from a legal standpoint if the Board's decisio
Should be favorable in the one case and unfavorable in the other.
Governor Mills stated that, like Governor Vardaman, he was in
favor of approving the application of Northwest Bancorporation.

He said

ble
that in a community the size of Rochester, it seemed almost inevita
that there would be relatively few banks and that there would be a
concentration of banking assets in one or two banks.

Therefore, to

take a position that the expansion of a bank holding company in a
community of this size, where it was already operating, would unduly
ent in the light
lessen competition did not seem to him entirely consist
Of the situation commonly found in such communities.

As touched upon

in the memorandum from the Division of Examinations, the population and
nal banking
businesses of the area apparently would welcome an additio
many of these
facility, and in terms of convenience of the public, in
cases it did not appear that the public was fundamentally interested




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in the ownership of the banking facilities as much as in accessibility
and efficiency of service.

He did not believe that denial of the appli-

cation would be warranted in this local instance where the Rochester
community would welcome the proposed facility and its establishment
would not foster the kind of tendency toward unfair banking practices
and the restriction of competition that can conceivably occur in situations where an overwhelming concentration of assets is already in the
hands of bank holding companies operating over a wide geographic area
who wish to extend still further their area interests.

In this connection,

he noted that the part of the city where the new bank would be located
was a growing neighborhood, of such size that the establishment of a
banking facility would seem justified.
Governor Robertson said that he agreed almost verbatim with the
statement made by Mr. Masters.

He would disagree only with the emphasis

Placed on the fact that two bank holding companies were operating in
the Rochester area, for he did not think that this was relevant.

In

his opinion, the Board would be flying squarely in the face of the
statute if it authorized Northwest Bancorporation, with its dominant
Position at the present time, to establish the proposed new bank in the
At some time, he thought, there would be a bank established

community.

in the area in question, but if the Board should permit Northwest to go
into the area before the need was sufficiently great to outweigh the
factor of dominance, independent banks would be put in a very difficult
Position.

He went on to say that he had tnlked with representatives of

the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis about this matter and that the
Bank appeared to have no strong feelings.




With respect to the charge

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of paternalism raised by Governor Vardsmen, he suggested that this
was the purpose of bank supervision and the purpose of the statute.
Therefore, for the reasons he had mentioned, he would concur in the
recommendation of the Division of Examinations.
Governor Shepardson stated that he had studied cases of this
kind carefully in an effort to ascertain at what point the factor of
competition should be regarded as the dominant factor in reaching a
decision.

It seemed to him that the Congress) in passing the Bank

Holding Company Act, intended to restrain the expansion of bank holding
companies except where there were sufficient overriding considerations
to justify expansion. This particular case seemed to him to be one
where the Board should draw the line, and he would therefore concur in
the recommendation of the Division of Examinations.
Governor Szymezak said that he also favored the recommendation
of the Division of Examinations.

All of these cases, he said, were

going to be very difficult to decide, but unless a line was drawn at
some point the holding companies would gradllally take over more and
more of the banking industry.

If what was wanted was the continuation

Of a system of independent banking, then the Board must make adverse
decisions in cases where the factors developed by the Division of
Examinations indicated grounds for the Board to vote against a proposed
bank acquisition.




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There ensued a discussion of the situation that might develop
from continued bank holding company expansion as contrasted with the
present status of the banking industry, following which Governor Vardaman
said that the application of Northwest Bancorporation did not appear to
him to involve undue expansion.

He stated that there was nothing in

the statute to indicate that sound and logical expansion on the part
of bank holding companies should be stopped, and he saw nothing in this
application which would violate the intent of the statute.

Admittedly,

he said, there was a degree of need for another bank, and in fact the
Division of Examinations had indicated the possibility that another
application by Northwest Bancorporation might be considered favorably
if the need was not filled over a period of time.
Governor Robertson expressed the view that the factors of need
and convenience at this time were not strong enough to warrant approval
of the application, although of course the situation might appear differently at some future date.
Governor Balderston then referred again to the application of
Baystate Corporation and raised the question whether action on the
application of Northwest Bancorporation should be deferred so that the
two applications could be considered together.

It was the view of the

Other members of the Board that action on the Northwest Bancorporation
aPPlication should not be deferred for that reason, Governor Mills
expressing the opinion that to link the two applications would be inconsistent with the provisions of the Bank Holding Company Act which require




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that each application under the Act to acquire bank stock shall be
considered in the light of five factors.

He felt that each such

application should be considered independently on the basis of those
factors, even though there might be similarities between certain
applications.
Accordingly, Governor Balderston made a statement of his
position on the application of Northwest Bancorporation in which he
said that his analysis of the case failed to convince him that, even
with the additional information furnished by the Minneapolis Reserve
Bank, the need for the new bank was such as to justify supporting the
recommendation of the Reserve Bank. The statute seemed to him almost
to require the Board to give attention to the total banking picture
in a community, and in this case the total picture involved looking
at the operations of two bank holding companies.

While he saw some

merit to the suggestion that if, with the passage of time, the need
for banking services was not met by the establishment of an independent
bank the decision perhaps should be reconsidered, at the present time
his vote would be to support the recommendation of the Division of
Examinations.
Governor Shepardson supplemented his earlier comments by saying
that if the need for banking services in the community grew and that
need was not filled by some other application to establish a bank, there
would always be an opportunity to reconsider the situation.

On the other

hand, if the application of Northwest Bancorporation were approved and




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the holding company were permitted to move into the territory, it
seemed quite certain that this would preclude, for a considerable
time at least, any opportunity for an independent bank to enter the
area.
Governor Mills recalled, with regard to the legislative history
of the Bank Holding Company Act, that there had always been some debate
on whether the legislation should contain a "death sentence" which
would completely prohibit bank holding company expansion or whether
expansion within prescribed limits should be allowed.

The decision,

he noted, was to permit limited expansion, and therefore the problem
was to determine the boundaries appropriate to those limits.

The Board,

he suggested, should not drift into a position or frame of mind such
that the Bank Holding Company Act would be construed as a "death
sentence".
It appearing that the majority of the Board favored denial of
the application, with Governors Vardaman and Mills dissenting from the
decision, the discussion turned to procedural questions, including the
manner of advising the applicant bank holding company.

During this

discussion, agreement was expressed with the view that the statement of
reasons for denial of the application should not contain reference to
the possibility of reconsideration of the application at a later date.
Mr. Solomon pointed out that in previous cases involving similar
applications when the Board was in doubt concerning the disposition of
the matter, the Board had so advised the applicant, stating generally




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the reasons and giving the applicant an opportunity to show cause why
a decision to disapprove might be wrong.

Such a procedure, he pointed

out, was not required by law, but it might make for a little better
record, for the applicant could not say that there was a lack of opportunity to state its case.
In connection with a question by Governor Balderston as to
whether such a procedure was likely to lead to a request for a hearing
before the Board, Mr. Solomon said that if the applicant were furnished
an indication of the reasons for which the Board was inclined to deny
the application and submitted additional information in support of its
request, the Board of course would have to give the matter further
consideration, which might or might not involve hearing representatives
of the applicant.
Governor Mills expressed his opinion that a preliminary adverse
advice to the applicant would be inadvisable if it could be interpreted
to mean that the Board did not know its awn mind.

He also indicated

that he had some question whether a decision to deny an application
should be formally published.
Governor Robertson said that, while the procedure of advising an
applicant of the Board's tentative position might be proper practice in
cases where the Board had doubts, in cases where the Board had come to a
definite decision he felt that it should advise the applicant in the form
of a definite denial with reasons.

Then, if the applicant should seek

reconsideration, the Board could consider whether to grant such a request.




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Governor Robertson noted also that it had been the practice of
the Board, in cases where its proposed decision was contrary to the
recommendation of the Federal Reserve Bank concerned, to offer the Bank
an opportunity to have its representatives meet with the Board.

He

suggested that it would seem appropriate to extend such an invitation
to the Minneapolis Bank in this instance.
At the conclusion of the discussion, the Legal Division was
requested to prepare, in consultation with the Division of Examinations,
a draft of notification of denial of the Rochester application for the
Board's consideration.

In accordance with Governor Robertson's suggestion,

it was understood that the Secretary would communicate with the Federal
Reserve Bank of Minneapolis by telephone to ascertain whether the Bank
wished to have its representatives meet with the Board for further
explanation of the Bank's recommendation on this matter.
The members of the staff then withdrew from the meeting and the
Board went into executive session.
Attendance at Brookings Conference

(Item No.

8). Governor

Shepardson later informed the Secretary that the Board, during the
executive session, considered an invitation from The Brookings Institution to nominate one or more key officials from the Board's organization
to attend the first Brookings Conference, to be held in Williamsburg,
Virginia, in December 1957, and that the Board agreed to nominate Mr.
Masters, Director of the Division of Examinations, and Mr. Farrell,




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Assistant Director of the Division of Bank Operations.

A copy of the

letter sent to The Brookings Institution pursuant to this action of
the Board is attached hereto as Item No.
The meeting then adjourned.




8.

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

BEFORE THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE EhDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

In the Matter of
THE CONTINENTAL BANK
AND TRUST COMPANY
Salt Lake City, Utah
STATEMENT AND ORDER ON TRIAL EXAMINER'S
CERTIFICATION OF QUESTION OF HOLDING CONFERENCES
FOR Sg12LEMENT OR SIMPLIFICATION OF ISSUES

The Trial Examiner in the above-entitled matter, under date
Of October 22, 1957, has filed with the Board of Governors "Trial
4a1fliner's Certification to the Board of the question of holding
conferences for settlement or simplification of issues."
In his Certification the Examiner quotes that portion of
section

7 of the Administrative Procedure Act and Rule III(f) of

the Board's Rules of Practice for Formal Hearings which specifically
411thorizes the Trial Examiner to "hold conferences for the settlement
°I
'simplification of the issues by consent of the parties."

The Notice

'r Institution of Proceeding and of Hearing Therein, dated June 29, 1956,
1)1"cl1rides in part that the proceedings be conducted in accord with the
(11DPl1cable requirements of the Administrative Procedure Act and the
'es.rd's Rules of Practice for Formal Hearings.
On this recitation of statutory and regulatory provision,
the e can be no doubt as to the authority of the Trial Examiner to
)411ene and preside over conferences at which may be discussed settleor simplification of issues.




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-2With respect to "consent of" the Board to participation by
one or more of its representatives in any conferences for the
"simplification of the issues", the Board's special counsel has, from
the initiation of this hearing, been under the Board's mandate that
every
effort be made to produce a record which accurately and fairly reflects

the positions of the parties involved and which would result in the
formation of findings, conclusions of law and a recommended decision
consonant with the public interest and the proven interests of the
Parties involved.

As an incident of such mandate, Board's special

counsel has had, and continues to have, full authority to participate
in such manner, at such time or times, and to such extent as will in
his considered judgment best serve the public interest, in conferences
r°r the simplification of issues of law and fact, and to that end,
t° choose one or more persons to assist him in this regard.
Similarly, with respect to "consent of" the Board to
e.rticipation by one or more of its representatives in any conferences
"settlement . . . of the issues", the Board's special counsel has
1141d, and continues to have, suitable authority for participating in
conferences to consider a reasonable and fair basis of settlement

ba,
sed upon the preponderance of relevant evidence. It should be
early understood, however, that should
a basis of settlement be
l'ee.ched, or should any offer thereof be presented to him, special
11111sel has no authority to agree to any amount of capital addition
01
' terms incident thereto; but he must forward to the Board for its




-3consideration and decision any such proposed settlement accompanied
by any recommendation he feels can appropriately- be made.
The exercise of these authorizations by Board's special counsel
in any such conference is, of course, conditioned upon at least as great
authority having been granted by Respondent to its counsel or other
aPecified representative.

A statement on the record by Respondent's

counsel or other representative that he has such authority will be
sUfficient to satisfy this condition. It is also to be understood,
14 accordance with usual principles of law in such circumstances,
that any unaccepted offers of settlement or simplification of issues,
Ots any discussions thereof, are privileged communications and are
11°t admissible in evidence for any purpose.
In reaffirming the authority of Board's special counsel to
'9.rticipate on behalf of the Board in "conferences for the settlement
°I
'simplification of the issues", the Board expresses no opinion as to
-v of the statements in the Examiner's certification regarding the
for the Examiner's recommendation and expresses the hope that
dlle diligence will be exercised by the Examiner in completing the prong and filing with the Board his Report and Recommended Decision
4a contemplated by the Administrative Procedure Act and the Board's

R
111-s of Practice for Formal Hearings.
ORDER
For the reasons set forth in the foregoing Statement,
0 ORDERED,




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-4That the authority of the Trial Examiner to hold conferences

for the "settlement or simplification of the issues by consent of the
Parties" in accordance with the Administrative Procedure Act is reaffirmed; and that the authority of Board's special counsel to participate
ia such conferences, under the conditions and qualifications indicated
14 the foregoing Statement, is likewise reaffirmed.
This

29th day of October 1957.

By order of the Board of Governors.

(Signed) S. R. Carpenter
S. R. Carpenter,
Secretary.

(sEAL)

Shinto, D. C.
October 29, 1957.




DOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No. 2

1n/29/57

WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

AookEss orFiciAL

CORRESPONDENCE

TO THE UDARD

October 29, 1957

Board of Directors,
Old Kent Bank and Michigan Trust Company,
Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Gentlemen:
Pursuant to your request submitted through the
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, the Board of Governors
of the Federal Reserve System approves the establishment
of a branch by Old Kent Bank and Michigan Trust Company
at the northwest corner of Kalamazoo Avenue and 44th
Street, S. E. in the unincorporated community of Bowen
Station, Paris Township, Kent County, Michigan, provided
the branch is established within one year from the date
of this letter, and that approval of the State authorities
is effective as of the date the branch is established.




Very truly yours,
(Sinned) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

Item No. 3
10/29/57

ADDRES!'-i OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

October 29, 1957

Board of Directors,
Old Kent Bank and Michigan Trust Company,
Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Gentlemen:
Pursuant to your request submitted through the
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, the Board of Governors
approves the removal of the Bridge Street Office of Old
Kent Bank and Michigan Trust Company from 321 Bridge Street,
N. W., to 700 Bridge Street, N. W., both sites in Grand
Rapids, Michigan, provided the branch is established at the
new location within nine months from the date of this letter.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Assistant Secretary.

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HOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON

Item No. 4
10/29/57

C.
ADONESS or

ICIAL

CORPESPONDENCE

TO THE 130ANO

October 29, 1957

Mr. Harry A. Shuford,
Vice President and General Counsel,
Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas,
Dallas 2, Texas.
Dear Mr. Shuford:
This is with further reference to your letters of August 28
and October 8, 1957, concerning the question whether section 32 of the
Banking Act of 1933 prohibits Mr. A. V. McQuiddy, Mr. H. S. lulbur, Sr.,
and Mr. Harry S. Wilbur, Jr., from serving at the sane time as officers
and directors of The First National Bank, Canadian, Texas, and as officers and directors of Canadian Investment Group, Canadian, Texas.
It appears that Canadian Investment Group is an unincorporated
association, the assets of which are securities purchased with funds
Obtained from the initial membership paymnnts and regular monthly payments of each member of the association. The resulting interest of each
member is his pro rata share in the current net value of the association's
Portfolio; and each member's interest appears to be redeemable at that
value at any time.
The Articles of Agreement originally limited membership to 50
Persons, but this maximum has recently been increased to 75, and, under
the Articles of Agreement and Bylaws, may be increased further at any
time. The total membership is now 65. The membership is not drawn from
any limited group of persons, but is open to the general public. No
Compensation is paid to officers or directors. The national bank handles
the transactions of the association gratis, apparently because it feels
that the relationship will be a "good will builder" for the bank.
As you point out, the Board of Governors has consistently taken
the position that section 32 is applicable to an open-end investment comPanY of the usual kind on the ground that such a company must continue to
3e1l its shares in order to survive, and that making such sales is therelore one of its primary activities. Although you regard the present case




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Mr. Hi

17 A. Shuford

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as a close one, you believe that the statute is applicable to the interlocking relationships listed above because the interest of each member is
,security's within the meaning of section 32 and because the manner of
a'
acquiring members constitutes a public sale or distribution within the
meaning of the statute.
The Board, after carefully reviewing the matter, is of the same
Opinion.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

Item No.

5

10/29/57

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE

(<1

TO THE LiOARD

October 29, 1957

Mr. C. L. Hufsmith,
Chairman,
The First National Bank,
Palestine, Texas.
Dear Mr. Hufsmith:
In your letter of October 15, 1957, you asked for a list
of services a member bank may render to its demand depositors which
the Board would regard as not constituting payments of interest
contrary to section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act and the Board's
Regulation Q, and for the reasons why the rendering of such services
would be so regarded. These requests were made in further reference
to your letters of March 7 and September 20, 1957, and the Board's
replies of April 8 and October 9, 1957, concerning a possible offer
by your bank to pay interest on demand deposits.
The Board believes that it would not be feasible to
undertake the preparation and distribution of any such list. The
Board's experience with respect to a detailed definition of the
term "interest" following the Banking Act of 1935 was related
In its letter to you of October 9. As you will appreciate, banking practices, including the matter of services rendered to
depositors, are not uniform throughout the country, and sometimes
are not even the same among banks in a given locality, since such
matters involve many variable factors. Furthermore, even where
such practices or services may seem to be much the same superficially,
the detailed facts and circumstances of the two situations may
require that they be viewed as quite different in fundamental
respects.
These are some of the reasons why it has been the
Board's general policy since 1937 not to attempt to determine
Whether particular practices involve a payment of interest,
except in flagrant or obvious cases, unless all of the pertinent




COARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL. RESERVE SYSTEM

Mr. C. L. Hufsmith
facts have been fully developed in the course of examination of the
member bank involved. Such questions necessarily depend on all
relevant information as to each particular case.
The Board is convinced by its experience in this connection
that adherence to its general policy provides the most satisfactory
way of handling matters of the kind in question.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) S. R. Carpenter
S. R. Carpenter,
Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. 0. C.

Item No. 6
10/29/57

ADDRESS OFFAL:JAL coRREsPONDENCE
To THC BOAPO

4w.).**-

October 29, 1957

Mr. E. R. Millard, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco,
San Francisco 20, California.
Dear Mr. Millard:
Reference is made to your letter of October 10, 1957,
advising of the proposal of California Bank, Los Angeles,
California, to move its Wilshire-Shatto office from 3143 Wilshire
Boulevard to 3348 Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles, California,
It appears that this proposal would constitute a mere
relocation of an existing branch in the immediate neighborhood
without affecting the nature of its business or customers served,
and, accordingly, the approval of the Board of Governors is unnecessary.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Assistant Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, O. C.

Item No. 7
10/29/57

;••••1*

•

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

October 29, 1957

Mr. Murdoch K. Goodwin,
Assistant General Counsel,
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia,
Philadelphia 1, Pennsylvania.
Dear Mr. Goodwin:
This will acknowledge your letter of October 9, 1957,
Counsel, containing enaddressed to Mr. Howard H. Hackley, General
l Finance Co., Wilmington,
Beneficia
by
request
closures relative to the
two of the company's
whether
to
as
opinion
Board's
Delaware, for the
expansion of operproposed
a
under
would,
Colorado
subsidiaries in
n of a bank under
definitio
the
within
falling
as
ations, be regarded
Act.
Company
Holding
Bank
section 2(c) of the
It is understood by the Board that under the proposed plan
the Beneficial Industrial Bank, Denver, Colorado, and the Personal
Industrial Bank, Pueblo, Colorado, contemplate, respectively, (1) the
making of a larger volume of loans and (2) the issuance of certain
investment certificates. It is further understood that neither of
the Industrial Banks now receives, nor contemplates receiving, commercial or demand deposits.
The Board has given consideration to the facts in this
matter as presented by the letter and its enclosures, in the light
of the intent of the statute and its legislative history. The question
by the
Presented is a troublesome one, as was the question presented
ies.
its
of
six
subsidiar
of
s
operation
the
to
respect
Company in 1956 with
two
subsidithe
of
neither
that
Board
the
of
opinion
However, it is the
aries is, on the basis of the information presented with respect to the
of section 2(c)
Proposed plan, to be regarded as a bank within the meaning
of the Bank Holding Company Act.
It will be appreciated if you will advise Beneficial Finance
Co. of the Board's views as expressed in this letter.




Very truly yours,
(Liiu,ned)

R. Carpenter

S. R. Carpenter,
Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

Item No. 8
10/29/57

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

AF/DRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE SOAR°

October 29, 1957

Mr. Robert D. Calkins, President,
The Brookings Institution,
722 Jackson Place, N. W.,
Washington 6, D. C.
Dear Mr. Calkins:
The Board of Governors appreciates very much the
privilege extended in your invitation of October 3, 1957, to
nominate one or more key officials from our organization to
attend the first Brookings Conference which will be held in
Williamsburg, Virginia, on December 1-13, 1957. The announcement of the Conference Program for Executives indicates that.
the proposed conferences have been well planned and they should
go far to increase the competence of the executives who participate.
In accordance with the suggestion contained in your
letter, we have today in a telephone conversation with Mr.
Stover of your office nominated the following. Information
with regard to salaries and ages were given during that conversation:
Robert C. Masters, Director,
Division of Examinations.
John R. Farrell, Assistant Director,
Division of Bank Operations.
If further information is desired in connection with
these nominations, we shall be pleased to supply it.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) S. R. Carpenter
S. R. Carpenter,
Secretary.