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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Syswas held in Washington on Tuesday, October 27, 1942, at 10:45 a411.
PRESENT:

Mr. Eccles, Chairman
Mr. Ransom, Vice Chairman
Mr. McKee
Mr. Draper
Mr. Evans
Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the Division
of Research and Statistics
Mr. Dreibelbis, General Attorney
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel

At the request of the Chairman, Mr. Morrill reported the recent
changes in discount rates of the Federal Reserve Banks. He stated that
the Board had approved changes in the discount rates of the Federal Re-.
8allve Banks of Boston, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Atlanta, Chicago, St.
t°111-s, Kansas City, and Dallas, which were submitted in accordance with

the informal action taken by the Board on October 9, 1942; that corre815°nding changes had been submitted by the Federal Reserve Banks of
Ilichmond and San Francisco except that they proposed a rate of 2-1/2
cent for advances to individuals, partnerships, and corporations
13
"
(Other than banks) secured by direct obligations of the United States
148tead of the rate of 2 per cent suggested by the Board; that the
Iledera1 Reserve Bank of New York had submitted a schedule which dift"ed from that suggested by the Board in that the reduced rate of 1/2
I) cent per annum on advances secured by direct or fully guaranteed
"
chligations of the United States maturing or callable within not more




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than one
year would apply to nonmember banks as well as to member banks,
and in that a rate of 2-1/2 per cent was proposed for advances to individuals, partnerships, and corporations (other than banks), and that
a revised rate schedule had not been received from Minneapolis because
that Bank was awaiting advice of the Board's action upon the schedule
Proposed by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
With reference to the schedule proposed by the Federal Reserve
Ballic of New York, Chairman Eccles reported that he had discussed the
Matter with President Sproul over the telephone since the receipt of
1411* Sprouts letter of October 13, copies of which had been furnished
to

all members of the Board, and that in these conversations he (Chair-

Ian Eccles) had indicated his reasons for feeling that the 1/2 per cent
l'ate should be confined to member banks.
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman, entered the meeting at
this point.
Board, in acting
Chairman Eccles expressed the view that the
11Pon the 1/2 per cent rate submitted by the New York Bank, should adhere
to the conclusion reached on October 9 but stated that he would like to

have the question of what should be done with respect to the existing
the next meeting
Isate of 1 per cent for nonmember banks discussed at
°f the Presidents and the Board of Governors. He saw no reason why nonMember banks were any more entitled to a differential rate than were
bUilding and loan associations, Federal savings and loan associations,
"A other institutions of similar character. He said he had advised




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MII• Sproul that he did not see how the Board at this time could ap13r°ve the schedule as submitted by the New York Bank in view of the
discussions during the last meeting with the Presidents, the decision
eUbsequently
reached by the Board in its consideration of the matter
°11 October 9, and the fact that the changes in the rates of four of
the

Federal Reserve Banks, which had been submitted in accordance with

the schedule proposed by the Board, had already been approved. Theref°re, he had advised MT. Sproul that he would recommend that the rate
c/f 1/2 per cent, in its application to nonmember banks, be disapproved
Elnd that at the next meeting of the Presidents with the Board there be
4

discussion of the rates of discount applicable to nonmember banks,

with a view to the adoption of a uniform System policy.
Following this report by Chairman Eccles there was a general
cliscussion of various aspects of the questions and procedure involved,
krticularly with respect to the question raised as to rates applicable
t° nonmenber banks.

In that connection, reference was made to the buy-

rate which had been established for Treasury bills and to its pearelation to the question of discount rate policy.
Mr. McKee stated that he was in favor of disapproving the rate
ID1'°13°8ed by New York for nonmember banks on the ground that it was a
deParture from the uniformity contemplated by the procedure which had
been followed, but that he would be agreeable to having the question
taken up at the next meeting of the Board with the Presidents, and that

he felt any decision reached as a result of that discussion should be




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fiven uniform application. Mr. Ransom indicated his concurrence with
the views expressed by Mr. McKee.
Mr. McKee added that he felt the policy with respect to the
rate for Treasury bill purchases was a separate and distinct matter
I l'ara the discount rate policy.
'

Chairman Eccles, on the other hand,

felt that
they should be considered together.

Mr. Evans stated that

he felt nonmember banks should not be given the benefit of the lower
rate accorded to member banks and indicated that he was influenced in
thinking by his experience in the agricultural field in connection
with the general policy involved in encouraging the development of the
coo

perative movement among farmers.
Mr. McKee then moved that, in conformity
with the conclusions reached at the meeting on
October 9, the Board approve the rates submitted by the New York Bank with the exception of
the reduction to 1/2 per cent in the case of
advances to nonmember banks.
In connection with his motion, Mr. McKee said that he did not

wish to raise any question with respect to the proposed rate of 2-1/2
'cent for advances to individuals, partnerships, and corporations
€11
(other than bfulks), even though it was not in conformity with the action
teen on the rate of 2 per cent which had been proposed by the Board
84ad adopted by the Banks whose schedules had been approved, because he
did not feel that the difference in rate involved was sufficiently imbrtant to create an issue.
14r. McKee.




Chairman Eccles indicated agreement with

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Mr. McKee's motion was approved unanimously,
with the understanding that it should not be
treated as formal action by the Board at this
time but that Chairman Eccles should advise President Sproul informally of the conclusion reached
by the Board and ascertain from him whether he
wished the Board to take formal action on the
schedule which had been submitted by the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York or whether he preferred
that the Board defer formal action until the
board of directors of the New York Bank had had
an opportunity to reconsider the matter.
Thereupon, the Board approved unanimously,
effective October 28, 1942, the rates as submitted by the Federal Reserve Banks of Richmond
and San Francisco, of 1/2 per cent on advances
to member banks, under paragraphs 8 and 13 of section 13 of the Federal Reserve Act, secured by
direct or fully guaranteed obligations of the
United States which have one year or less to run
to can date or to maturity if no call date, of
2-1/2 per cent on advances to individuals, partnerships, or corporations other than banks under
the last paragraph of section 13, and of 1-1/2
per cent on advances to member banks under section 10(b) of the Federal Reserve Act, end the
establishment without change of the other rates
of discount and purchase in the respective Banks'
existing schedules.

It was agreed that Mr. Morrill should advise Mr. Peyton, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, informally as to the
tions which the Board had taken on the discount rates which had been
elibmitted
up to this time and particularly as to the position which the
I30ard had now decided to take with respect to the rates submitted by

the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
Secretary's Note: Mr. Morrill subsequently reported that he had discussed the matter with
Firsi Vice President Powell, Mr. Peyton being
absent, and that Mr. Powell indicated that he
understood the situation, that the next meeting
at which rates would be considered would be on
Thursday of this week, and that he anticipated
action would be taken at that time.



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The question was then raised whether a press statement should
be

issued by the Board with respect to the reductions in discount rates

Which had taken place.

Mr. Goldenweiser reported that there were some

Paragraphs regarding the changes in discount rates in the "Review of
the Month" which was being prepared for the next issue of the Federal
leserve Bulletin. After a discussion, it was agreed that no special
Press statement should be prepared but that Mr. Thurston should be
ellthorized to call the attention of such press representatives as might
be

to the
interested to the portion of the Bulletin which referred

d
iscount rates.
Secretary's Note: Chairman Eccles subsequently
reported that he had advised President Sproul of
the Board's views with respect to the changes in
discount rates at New York, and that Mr. Sproul
had stated that the next meeting at which the matand
ter could be considered would be on Thursday
be
that he would prefer that no formal action
taken until the matter could be reviewed by his
board of directors.
At this point, Messrs. Thurston, Goldenweiser, Dreibelbis, and
IlY"t left the meeting, and the action stated with respect to each of
the matters hereinafter referred to was then taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
l'ederal Reserve System held on October 26, 1942, were approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated October 26, 1942, from kr. Goldenweiser, Disector of the Division of Research and Statistics, submitting the resig118Ilon of Mrs. Ruth Dewey Allwine, a clerk-typist in that Division,




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to become effective as of the close of business on November 4, 1942,
ezd recommending that the resignation be accepted as of that date.
The resignation was accepted.
ee on
Letter to Mr. Robert M. Barnett, Chairman of the Committ
°coUpational Deferment, United States Civil Service Commission, reading

as follows:
rn,
"In accordance with the suggestion made by Ir. Hartsho
Board's
the
of
r
Directo
Of your office, to Mr. R. F. Leonard,
nal information
Division of Personnel Administration, additio
positions
the
Is herewith submitted regarding certain of
16, were
October
of
Which, according to Mr. McNutt's letter
s
submitted
position
eliminated from the list of proposed key
With our letter of October 6, 1942.
Division
Salary
Title of Position
Z3,200 and up Research and Statistics
Economists
2,600 and up Research and Statistics
Economists
Technical Assistants
and Associate Tech3,200 and up Bank Operations
nical Assistants
3,200 and up Security Loans
Special Assistants
Supervisor, AccountOffice of Secretary of
3,600
ing Section
the Board
positions
these
of
"Reconsideration of the elimination
fully
is
respect
nt)
Assista
(except that of Associate Technical
ed.
furnish
ion
informat
requested in the light of the additional
on
ns
positio
other
the
Reconsideration of the elimination of
the list attached to Mr. McNutt's letter of October 16 is not
is in accord
requested on the assumption that the elimination
With the general policy.
is sufficient
"We trust that the additional information
not, it will
If
s.
and in the form desired for your purpose
with Mr.
touch
in
be appreciated if your office will get
with
utmost
the
to
e
cooperat
R. F. Leonard, as we desire to
work."
Your office and to facilitate your
Approved unanimously.
Federal Reserve Bank of
Letter to Yr. LIcLarin, President of the
Atlanta, reading as follows:




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to
"The proposal outlined in your letter of October 15
the
of
ng
handli
employ a young attorney to assist in the
the
work at an annual salary of approximately $2,700 has
be
not
will
he
approval of the Board. It is assumed that
nel
a
,
person
course
an officer of the Bank and that, in due
al."
for
approv
ted
submit
Classification sheet on Form A will be
Approved unanimously.
ent of the Western Life
Telegram to Mr. R. B. Richardson, Presid
Inenrance Company, Helena, Montana, reading as follows:
e System has
"Board of Governors of the Federal Reserv
the Federal
of
Branch
appointed you director of the Helena
n of
portio
red
unexpi
Reserve Bank of Minneapolis for the
have
to
d
please
be
will
term ending December 31, 1942, end
Your acceptance by collect telegram."
Approved unanimously.
sity of California,
Telegram to Mr. Harry R. Wellman, Univer
8erkeley, California, reading as follows:
e System has
"Board of Governors of the Federal Reserv
e Bank
Reserv
l
Federa
the
of
appointed you Class C director
ending
term
of
n
portio
red
Of San Francisco for the unexpi
have your acDecember 31, 1942, and will be pleased to
ceptance by collect telegram."
Approved unanimously.
the Federal Reserve
Letter to Mr. Mercer, Vice President of
11411k of Richmond, reading as follows:
October 21, 1942,
"Reference is made to your letter of
Durham, North
Bank,
ty
reviving the request of The Fideli
at Camp
branch
a
ish
establ
Carolina, for permission to
ted
submit
ally
origin
was
Butner, North Carolina, which
1942.
With your letter of August 7,
approval of the
"The Board understands that written
ed and, in
State Commissioner of Banks has been obtain
ation submitted,
view of your recommendation and the inform
Reserve Bank, the
including the opinion of counsel for the
ion of a branch
Board approves the establishment and operat
Fidelity Bank, Durin Camp Butner, North Carolina, by The
ham, North Carolina."




Approved unanimously.

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Letter to Mr. Trimble, Assistant General Counsel of the Federal
Reserve Bank of New 'York, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of October 21, 1942, enclosing a copy of a letter from the firm of Davis Polk
lardwell Sunderland & Kiendl with regard to the inclusion
in all guarantee agreements of certain provisions which
appear in the agreement with respect to the loan to General Motors Corporation. We are today addressing letters
to the War Department and the Navy Department with reference to this matter and will be glad to advise you further
When we have heard from them."
Approved unanimously, together with
the following letter to Lieutenant Colonel
Paul Cleveland, Chief of the Loan Section,
Advance Payment and Loan Branch, Fiscal Division of the War Department, and Kr. Sidney
A. Mitchell, Chief of Finance Section, Office of Procurement and Material, Navy
Department:
"There is enclosed a copy of a letter received by us
and a copy of the
from the Federal Reserve Bank of New
Davis Polk Wardof
firm
the
letter enclosed therewith from
raises the
ndence
correspo
well Sunderland & Kiendl. This
contained
were
which
question whether certain provisions
to
respect
with
t
agreemen
in section 13 of the guarantee
not
were
which
but
the loan to General Motors Corporation
to
referred
ns
conditio
included among the standard special
made
be
availnot
in your letter of October 9, 1942, should
able as additional conditions in all guarantee agreements.
"It will be noted that the views of the War Department and Navy Department with respect to this matter are
you
requested and accordingly it will be appreciated if
ReFederal
the
Will advise us in order that we may inform
serve Bank of New York."
Letter to Honorable Lindsay C. Warren, Comptroller General of
the United States, reading as follows:
"Reference is made to your letter of October 12, 1942,
drawn by
regarding the custody, after payment, of checks
Reserve
Federal
the
of
s
an official of the Board of Governor
purpose
the
for
States
United
SYstem on the Treasurer of the
Reserve
Federal
the
between
Of effecting a transfer of funds
Banks and Agents and the Treasurer of the United States.




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"It is not necessary for such checks to be returned to
the Board when paid in order to ascertain whether the transfer actually took place. Accordingly, if such checks are
available to the Board for inspection, should their inspection appear to be necessary or desirable at any time, and
are not destroyed without the consent of the Board, it is
Immaterial to the Board whether the checks are kept on file
at the Treasury or at the General Accounting Office.
"In the circumstances, it is suggested that you take
Up with the Treasurer of the United States the question
as to whether such checks, when paid, should be filed at
the Treasurer's Office or at the General Accounting Office."
Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

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Seers ary.

APproved:




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Chairman.