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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System was held in Washington on Saturday, October 26, 1940, at
11:30 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
McKee
Davis
Draper

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
The action stated with respect to each of the matters hereinafter referred to was taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System held on October 25, 1940, were approved unani111.01181y.

Memorandum dated October 24, 1940, from Mr. Parry, Chief of
the Division of Security- Loans, recommending for the reason stated
in the memorandum, that the salary of Catherine A. Hall, economic
40ei5tant, be increased from $2,100 to $2,200 per annum, effective
November 1, 1940.
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated October 24) 1940, from Mr. Parry, Chief of
the Division of Security Loans, recommending, for the reasons stated

in

the memorandum, that the salary of Otto H. Branic, messenger, be

itiereased from $1,260 to $1,320 per annum, effective November 1, 1940.




Approved unanimously.

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Memorandum dated October 24, 1940, from Messrs. Goldenweiser,
Thurston, and Hammond, the committee appointed by the Board on FebruarY 21, 1940, to review and make suggestions with regard to the
Banking Studies of 1940, recommending that, for the reason stated
in the memorandum, the temporary appointment of Miss Marie Butler
(Mrs. Maurice Leven) as an editorial assistant in the Correspondence
and Publications Section of the Secretary's Office, be extended for
an additional period of not to exceed three months from November 15,
1940, with no change in her present salary at the rate of $400 per
month.
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Fleming, President of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Cleveland, reading as follows:
"In accordance with the request contained in your
letter of October 22, the Board approves the appointment
of G. D. Lippert as an examiner for the Federal Reserve
Bank of Cleveland. Please advise us of the effective
date."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Upham, Deputy Comptroller of the Currency, readi4g as follows:
"This refers to your letter of October 14, 1940, regarding the classification as savings accounts of certain
accounts carried by the Condon National Bank, Coffeyville,
Kansas.
"It is understood that the accounts in question represent funds set aside by the Columbia Drug Company for
depreciation and reserve in connection with fixtures and
Payments of taxes; and that the drug company is a partnership of C. W. Evans-Lombe and R. G. Evans-Lombe,




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"organized for profit, in connection with the operation
of two retail drug stores. It is noted that two of the
accounts are carried by the bank in the name of the Columbia
Drug Store and two in the name of C. W. Evans-Lombe and
R. G. Evans-Lombe as joint personal accounts, although
deposits and withdrawals in connection with such joint
personal accounts are made in the name of the 'Columbia
Drug Store'.
"As indicated in footnote 4 of the Board's Regulation Q, deposits in joint accounts of two or more individuals may properly be classified as savings deposits,
although deposits of a partnership operated for profit
may not be so classified. In the present case, the practices followed by the bank as stated above indicate that
the accounts carried in the name of C. W. Evans-Lombe and
R. G. Evans-Lombe as joint personal accounts are actually
the accounts of a partnership operated for profit. Accordingly, it is the view of the Board that these accounts, as well as the accounts carried in the name of
the Columbia Drug Store, may not properly be classified
as savings deposits and that, therefore, they are carried by the bank in contravention of the provisions of
Regulation Q. There is nothing in the law or regulations, however, which would prevent the accounts in
question from being transferred to an interest-bearing
time deposit basis."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the Presidents of all Federal Reserve Banks, readas follows:
"There is attached a copy of a ruling which will
be published in the Federal Reserve Bulletin regarding
"Cash on Delivery" Transactions Under Regulation T 1.
"It will be noted that the attached ruling is in
the form of a statement for the press which, however,
is not to be released until the time specified on the
statement."
The statement for the press referred to in the letter read as follows:
"The following ruling will appear in the Federal
Reserve Bulletin:




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"'Cash on Delivery' Transactions Under Regulation T
"The Board has recently considered certain questions
involving the special cash account under section 4(c) of
Regulation T, and especially the provisions of section
4(c)(5) relating to so-called 'cash on delivery' or 'C.O.D.'
transactions. For convenient reference, the relevant portions of section 4(c), particularly of 4(c)(5) are set out
below:
1(c) Special cash account. - (1) In a special cash account, a creditor may effect for or
with any customer bona fide cash transactions in
securities in which the creditor may-1(A) purchase any security for, or
sell any security to, any customer, provided funds sufficient for the purpose are
already held in the account or the purchase
or sale is in reliance upon an agreement
accepted by the creditor in good faith that
the customer will promptly make full cash
payment for the security- and that the customer does not contemplate selling the security prior to making such payment; . ..
1(2) In case a customer purchases a security
(other than an exempted security) in the special
cash account and does not make full cash payment
for the security within 7 days after the date on
which the security is so purchased, the creditor
shall, except as provided in the succeeding subdivisions of this section 4(c), promptly cancel
or otherwise liquidate the transaction or the unsettled portion thereof
1(5) If the creditor, acting in good faith
in accordance with subdivision (1) of this section
4(c), purchases a security for a customer, or sells
a security to a customer, with the understanding
that he is to deliver the security promptly to the
customer, and the full cash payment to be made
promptly by the customer is to be made against such
delivery, the creditor may at his option treat the
transaction as one to which the period applicable
under subdivision (2) of this section 4(c) is not
the 7 days therein specified but 35 days after the
date of such purchase or sale: Provided, however,
That the creditor shall not so treat any purchase
by a given customer if any security has been purchased by such customer at any time during the




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"'preceding 90 days in a special cash account with
the creditor, and then, for any reason whatever,
without having been previously paid for in full by
the customer, the security has been sold in the
account or delivered out to any broker or dealer:
Provided, That an appropriate committee of a national securities exchange, on application of the
creditor, may authorize the creditor to disregard
for the purposes of the preceding proviso any given
instance of the type therein described if the committee is satisfied that both creditor and customer
are acting in good faith and that circumstances
warrant such authorization.
1(6) If an appropriate committee of a national
securities exchange is satisfied that the creditor
is acting in good faith in making the application,
that the application relates to a bona fide cash
transaction, and that exceptional circumstances
warrant such action, such committee, on application of the creditor, may (A) extend any period
specified in subdivision (2), (3), (4) or (5) of
this section 4(c) for one or more limited periods
commensurate with the circumstances,
"In general. The problems were ones relating, under
section 4(c)(5), to the time of delivering a security to
a customer and obtaining cash payment against the delivery.
The rulings on the particular cases may be understood more
readily in the light of certain general principles which
apply to section 4(c) and particularly to the C.O.D. transactions under section 4(0(5).
"It should be noted at the outset that it is not the
purpose of section 4(c)(5) to allow additional time to
customers for making payment. The 'prompt delivery' described in section 4(c)(5) is delivery which is to be
made as soon as the broker or dealer can reasonably make
it in view of the mechanics of the securities business
and the bona fide usages of the trade. The provision
merely recognizes the fact that in certain circumstances
it is an established bona fide practice in the trade to
obtain payment against delivery of the security to the
customer, and the further fact that the mechanics of the
trade, unrelated to the customer's readiness to pay, may
sometimes delay such delivery to the customer.
"The customer should have the necessary means of payment readily available when he purchases a security in
the special cash account. He should expect to pay for it




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"immediately or in any event within the period (of not more
than a very few days) that is as long as is usually required
to carry through the ordinary securities transaction.
"Such an undertaking is a necessary part of the customer's agreement, under section 4(c)(1)(A), that he 'will
promptly make full cash payment'. Furthermore, any delay
by the customer may cast doubt on the original status of
the transaction and should be explainable by exceptional
circumstances that justify the delay. Repetition of delays
by the customer would be especially hard to justify. Such
repetition would almost conclusively label his transactions
as unable to qualify as bona fide cash transactions and
would almost conclusively disqualify them for inclusion in
the special cash account.
"These general principles are illustrated by the specific cases to which the Board has given consideration.
"Broker 'failed to receive' security. A typical example of a case in which the delivery to the customer is
delayed because of conditions in the trade is one in which
the broker has 'failed to receive' the security which the
customer has purchased. Assuming that no evasion of the
regulation is involved and that the failure to receive the
security is an ordinary incident to the usual operation of
the securities business, section 4(c)(5) would cover the
time, not exceeding the 35-day maximum specified in the
provision, reasonably required for the broker to obtain
the security and deliver it to the customer.
"Purchasing for delivery security already sold to
customer. It sometimes happens that a dealer will sell
a security to a customer although the dealer does not
have the security on hand for delivery and expects to
purchase it in the market in order to make delivery to
the customer. A special case of this type is one in
which an institutional investor such as an insurance company, trust fund, or the like, will purchase a block of
a particular issue of securities—usually bonds--as a
unit, and will request that the entire block of securities be delivered at one time in order to avoid unreasonable duplication of clerical or administrative operations.
"Questions as to the time allowed the dealer to acquire the securities in the market for delivery to the
customer under section 4(c)(5) are essentially questions
of reasonableness, and must necessarily depend on the
circumstances of the particular case.
"As indicated above, the dealer could not delay acquiring the securities he did not have on hand if such




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"delay was for the purpose of giving additional time to the
customer. Assuming, however, that no such evasion is involved and that there is complete good faith, the dealer
would have a reasonable time for acquiring the securities
and could take into account the general state of the market,
the effect of forcing a sudden purchase of the securities,
and similar factors. He would not have to force through a
sizeable purchase in a market that is temporarily thin or
disorganized. But on the other hand he should proceed to
acquire and deliver the securities with all reasonable dispatch.
"Unissued securities. The question was raised whether
section 4(c)(5) applies to securities which at the time of
the transaction are unissued. The answer is that it does,
but that, as in other cases, the broker should deliver the
security and complete the transaction as soon as he can in
view of the mechanics of the trade. This being the case,
it seems that there would be very few instances in which
section 4(c)(5) would, in practice, authorize any more time
for delivering such a security and obtaining payment therefor than would section 4(c)(3) which, in the following
terms, specifically provides for most situations involving
unissued securities:
t(3) If the security when so purchased is an
unissued security, the period applicable to the
transaction under subdivision (2) of this section
4(c) shall be 7 days after the date on which the
security is made available by the issuer for delivery to purchasers.'
"Securities ourchased with proceeds of securities
called for redemption. Sometimes a customer wishes to purchase a security and to pay for it with the proceeds of
another security which the customer holds and which the
issuer has called for redemption. Occasionally the proceeds of the called security will not be available for some
time, perhaps 30 days, and the customer would like to delay
payment for that time.
"Such a circumstance would not justify delay in obtaining payment under section 4(c)(5), since the delay would not
arise from the mechanics of the trade as they affect the
broker or dealer, but merely from the customer's desire for
delay in making payment.
"In the particular case presented to the Board, however,
the customer deposited the called security with the dealer
With definite instructions to deliver it for redemption and
apply the proceeds to payment for the purchased security.




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"This made the situation similar to that considered in the
ruling at page 1043 of the December 1938 Federal Reserve
Bulletin, which was to the effect that in certain circumstances the sale of a security held in the special cash
account may serve as payment for a security which has been
purchased in the account even though the proceeds of sale
have not yet been collected.
"Although the security had not actually been sold in
the present case, the Board expressed the view that, if the
necessary requirements of good faith were met and there was
every reasonable probability that the called security actually would be paid according to the call for redemption,
the same principle would apply. In such circumstances,
therefore, payment for the purchased security may be considered to have been made for the purposes of section 4(c)
at the time when the called security is deposited with the
dealer for the indicated purpose."
Approved unanimously, together
with the following letter to Mr.
Rounds, Vice President of the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York, reading as
follows:
"Reference is made to your letter of October 1, 1940,
regarding an inquiry from Davis, Polk, Wardwell, Gardiner
Reed, Esqs., 15 Broad Street, New York City, with respect
to section 4(c) of Regulation T.
"The Board's views with respect to this question have
been set forth in the attached statement for the press regarding '"Cash on Delivery" Transactions under Regulation
T 1 which, however, is not to be released until the date
indicated on the statement.
"It will be noted that a number of different but related questions have been covered in the ruling, among them
certain questions as to which Mr. Norman P. Davis of your
Bank some time ago advised the New York Security Dealers
Association. The inclusion of these, which has been done
with the approval and cooperation of Mr. Davis, reflects
the belief that they are of such general interest and importance as to make it desirable for them to be covered by
a formal ruling of the Board, to be published in the Federal Reserve Bulletin. Collecting the questions in this
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"certain of the underlying principles that are involved."
In connection with the above matter
the following letter to Mr. Swanson, Vice
President of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Minneapolis was also approved unanimously:
"Reference is made to your letter of October 1, 1940
presenting two questions regarding Regulation T.
"The Board's views with respect to the question regarding the application of section 4(c)(5) of the regulation to
unissued securities have been set forth in the attached ruling regarding "Cash on Delivery" Transactions Under Regulation TI which, as you will note, also covers a number of other
related questions and is not to be released until the date
indicated on the statement.
"Your other question asks how to determine whether a security is exempted by the Securities and Exchange Commission
to the extent described in section 2(d)(3) of Regulation T.
As suggested by your Counsel, Mr. Ueland, the problem appears
to be essentially a matter of obtaining factual information.
If the relevant rules of the Securities and Exchange Commission are not readily available, the information could be obtained from the Securities and Exchange Commission, or the
Board would be glad to forward it, with respect to any security as to which the question may arise.
"In view of the status of the Minneapolis-St. Paul Stock
Exchange as an exempted exchange, you may be particularly interested in paragraph (b) of the Commission's Rule X-702-1
(formerly Rule AN1) which exempts certain securities on exempted exchanges to the extent described in section 2(d)(3)
of Regulation T. This paragraph reads as follows:
1(b) So long as any security which is not registered on a national securities exchange continues
to be admitted to either listed or unlisted trading
privileges on any exchange which is exempted from
registration as a national securities exchange, such
security shall be exempt from the operation of Section
7(c)(2) to the extent necessary to render lawful any
direct or indirect extension or maintenance of credit
thereon or any direct or indirect arrangement therefor
which would not have been unlawful if such security
had been a security (other than an exempted security)
registered on a national securities exchange.'"




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Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

APproved:




Chairman: