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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
aYstem was held in Washington on Friday, October 25, 1940, at 3:00
P.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
McKee
Davis
Draper

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Smead, Chief of the Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Draper stated that since the action taken at the meeting
of the Board on October 14, 1940, the National Defense Advisory Cornhad been working on a plan to increase the participation of
email business enterprises in the national defense program and that
this afternoon the Commission sent to the Board a letter signed by
Mr. Sherwood as Acting Secretary of the Commission and a draft of a
Pl'ess statement on the subject.

The letter, which was read by Mr.

Morrill, was as follows:
"The National Defense Advisory Commission believes
that small and medium sized business enterprises, along
With the larger business enterprises, occupy a place of
vital importance in the national defense program. So
that these small and medium sized concerns mgy participate
more
in the program, the Commission has designated
the Coordinator of National Defense Purchases as its Director of Small Business Activities.
"The office of the Director of Small Business Activities will serve as a clearing house of information for the




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"National Defense Advisory Commission, the War and Navy
Departments as well as for the smaller industries themselves. It will endeavor to assist the smaller enterprises in obtaining defense contracts and advise and
assist them in obtaining such financial aid as may be
required in the execution of defense orders.
"If this program is to be carried out successfully
the Commission believes that the cooperation and assistance of the Federal Reserve System is desirable. In this
connection it is thought that the Board of Governors might
act as operating agent for the National Defense Advisory
Commission, designating one of its Board members to have
Charge of this work and that the Board request each Federal Reserve bank to designate a senior officer in each
Reserve bank and branch to serve as field and technical
representatives.
"The Commission believes that the officers so designated can effectively participate in this phase of the
defense program if they might assume the following duties:
1. To make confidential reports from time to
time concerning business enterprises located in
their respective districts desiring to obtain defense orders;
2. To acquaint local banks with the procedure
to be followed in accepting assignment of claims
against the government resulting from government
contracts, as security for loans;
3. To encourage local banks to make loan commitments on condition that borrowers obtain government contracts and assign claims against the
government resulting from such contracts as Security for loans;
4. To furnish business enterprises with information on the procedure to follow and proper contacts to make relative to obtaining defense
contracts;
5. To assist business enterprises which have
obtained defense orders and are unable to obtain
necessary credit from local commercial banks, to
obtain loans from the Federal Reserve Banks or
R.F.C.
"It is contemplated that Mr. Donald M. Nelson, Coordinator of National Defense Purchases, and Director of Small
Business Activities, will meet in Washington with the designated officers of the Federal Reserve banks at a date to
be announced shortly, in order to fully acquaint them with
the details of this program.




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"It will be appreciated if you will advise the Commission at your earliest convenience whether the facilities of
the Federal Reserve System can be so utilized."
Mr. Morrill also read the draft of statement which the Commission proposed for immediate release to the press.
In connection with a discussion of the next to the last paragraph of the letter, the opinion was expressed and concurred in by
the members of the Board present that representatives from the branches
well as the Federal Reserve Banks should be called to Washington
for the meeting suggested in the Commission's letter and that care
should be taken to select the officers of the Banks and branches best
qUalified to carry on the work contemplated by the plan.
It
prepare
Reserve
suggest

was agreed that Mr. Smead should
a list of officers of the Federal
Banks and branches whom he would
be designated.

Mr. Davis raised the question whether it would be advisable
to call
a meeting in Washington of the Chairmen or other directors of

the Federal Reserve Banks whose training in the industrial field would
"able them to lend active support to the activities carried on by the
Reserve Banks under the Commission plan.

It was felt, however, that

while it might become desirable to call such a meeting, it should not
be arranged until after the meeting of the representatives of the Fed--'

Reserve Banks and branches has been held.




At the conclusion of the discussion,
Mr. Morrill was authorized by unanimous

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-4vote to send by wire to the president of
each Federal Reserve Bank a copy of the
letter and press statement received from
the National Defense Advisory Commission
and to advise the presidents that the
Board would communicate with them as soon
as possible with respect to the steps to
be taken by the respective banks and
branches to carry out the plan.
By unanimous vote, Mr. Draper was
designated as the member of the Board to
work with the Commission and the Federal
Reserve Banks in carrying out the plan.
By unanimous vote, Mr. Morrill was
authorized to address a letter to the
National Defense Advisory Commission advising of the actions taken by the Board
in response to the Commission's letter.
Eccles stated that in accordance with the action taken at

the

meeting of the Board on October 9, 1940, he and

essrs. McKee and

Mc)rrill met with the Board's architect on October 171 1940, and that
f°11°wing the conference the architect addressed a letter to the Board
14°15-eating a willingness on the part of his firm to follow either of
tw° suggested courses of procedure. Chairman Eccles also stated that

he thought that it would be desirable for the Board to act on the mattel
'at its next meeting.
There was then presented a draft of letter to Mr. F. W. Hoover,
elleral Manager of the Welfare and Recreational Association, relating
to
8 Proposed revision of the existing agreement between the Associatio
4 and the Board covering the operation of the cafeterias and dining
l'cl°n18 in the Federal Reserve Building.




The draft of letter was

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considered in the light of a memorandum addressed to the Board by
Mr. Nelson under date of October 19, 1940, both of which had been
circulated to the members of the Board for their information before
this meeting.

Question was raised as to the desirability of retain-

in the revised proposal the provision that the bonus paid the
manager and assistant manager shall not exceed
respectively, in any one month.

75.00 and $37.50,

The members of the Board felt that

there was little likelihood of the bonuses exceeding the stated
amounts to any great extent and that the provision should be eliminated.
Accordingly, the letter to the
Welfare and Recreational Association
was approved unanimously in the following amended form:
"Consideration has been given to your letter of October 3, 1940, requesting a revision of paragraph 7 of the
Agreement dated December 30, 1938 between the Telfare and
Recreational Association of Public Buildings and Grounds,
Inc., and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System, in order to provide an increased management fee,
and to your suggested methods of fixing such fees.
"At the time of the negotiations for the services of
the Association as manager of the cafeterias and dining
rooms, it was anticipated that the volume of business would
be comparatively small, and, therefore, it was understood
that the management fee of 10 per cent of gross receipts
agreed upon was higher than the normal overhead charge applicable to other units operated by the Association. The
volume of business handled in the cafeterias and dining
rooms has grown steadily and while the present volume of
business is abnormal due to the temporary housing in the
building of the Advisory Commission to the Council of National Defense, it appears that under normal operations the
gross cash receipts will average approximately $6,000




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"monthly. It appears, therefore, that the factors taken
into consideration in fixing a management fee at 10 per
cent of gross receipts are no longer applicable.
"It is understood that your present overhead charges
to units wholly owned and operated by the Association are
about 6 per cent of cash receipts. It is believed that
this rate may be used as a basis for arriving at a management fee for our cafeteria, with an additional provision
that the Association will share up to a certain amount in
any excess of receipts over disbursements and expenditures.
Therefore, it is proposed that the following changes be
made, effective December 1, 1940, in paragraphs 7 and 9
of the Agreement dated December 30, 1938:
"(a) Change the second sentence of paragraph 7 to
read as follows:
This fee shall be 6 per cent of the gross cash
receipts obtained from the operation by the Association of the cafeterias, snack bar, and private dining
rooms above mentioned, subject, however, to the provisions of paragraph 9 hereof.
"(b) Change paragraph 9 to read as follows:
9. In the event that there is an excess of
gross receipts over expenses (including actual disbursements and amounts necessary for providing adequate reserves for the replacement of equipment) for
any one month as disclosed by the Operative Statement
which is submitted to the Board, 30 per cent of the
amount of such excess for such month shall be payable
to the Association in addition to the management fee
provided in paragraph 7 hereof, provided, however,
that the total amount payable to the Association pursuant to the provisions of this paragraph and of said
paragraph 7 shall not exceed $500 in any one month;
13-1/3 per cent of the amount of such excess for such
month shall be paid by the Association to its employee
who is designated by it as Manager in charge of said
cafeterias, snack bar, and dining rooms; and 6-2/3
per cent of the amount of such excess for such month
shall be paid by the Association to its employee who
is designated as Assistant Manager for said cafeterias, snack bar, and dining rooms. Any amounts which
are paid or payable pursuant to the provisions of this
paragraph shall be taken into account, after being
audited and approved by the Board, in making the settlement provided for in paragraph 8, and shall be




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"added to the amount otherwise payable by the Board to
the Association or shall be deducted from the amount
otherwise payable to the Board by the Association, as
the case may be. By notifying the Association in writing, the Board shall have the right to require an increase or decrease in the aforesaid amounts payable to
the Manager and Assistant Manager, respectively, or to
require the discontinuance of such payments, but any
such change shall be effective only as to calendar
months subsequent to that in which the Board notifies
the Association that such change shall be made. The
Association shall not change the rate of compensation
of said Manager or Assistant Manager without the prior
approval of the Board.
"In view of the provisions now contained in the fourth
sentence of paragraph 9, the proposed changes in the payments
to the Manager and Assistant r,lanager may be made by merely
notifying your Association that the Board desires the changes
to be made, and a modification of the contract is not necessary. However, since it is proposed to revise paragraph 9
in other respects, it seemed convenient to include these
Changes in the revision.
"While the basis of computing the proposed management
fee varies somewhat from the revisions suggested in your
letter, it will result in a substantial increase in compensation for the Association and we hope that you will find
the proposed revision satisfactory.
"The operating statements submitted by the Association
Pursuant to the Agreement have not been received promptly
and in many instances these statements are delayed for a
Period of two months. It would be very helpful if we could
Obtain the operating statements within a short time after
the close of a month's business as we feel that prompt rePorts of the operations are essential to the proper supervision of the unit. It will be appreciated, therefore, if
You will give consideration to revising your accounting procedure in order that the operating statements can be made
available shortly after the close of a month's business.
"In giving consideration to your request for a revision
of the management fee we wish to assure you of our desire to
arrive at an equitable basis for the services of the Association, and trust that our relationship with your organization will continue as satisfactory and pleasant in the future
as it has been in the past."
At this point Messrs. Thurston and Smead left the meeting and




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the action stated with respect to each of the matters hereinafter referred to was then taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System held on October 22, 1940, were approved unaniRigUsly.

The minutes of the meetings of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System held on October 23 and 24, 1940, were approved
and the actions recorded therein were ratified unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Olson, Assistant Secretary of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, stating that the Board of Governors approves
for the Chicago Bank, effective as of October 26, 1940, the following
rates on industrial advances under section 13b of the Federal Reserve
Act:
"Advances direct to industrial or commercial organizations: 3% to 6%
"Advances to financing institutions:
On portion for which institution is obligated:
3% to 6%, except that in those cases where financing institution charges less the rate may
be the same as that charged by the financing
institution.
On remaining portion: 3% to 6%, except that
in those cases where financing institution
charges less the rate may be the same as that
charged by the financing institution.
"Commitments to make advances: i% to 2%"
The telegram also stated that the Board approves the establishment by
the Bank without change of the other rates of discount and purchase
111 the Bank's existing schedule, advice of which was contained in Mr.
°1sonts telegram of October 24, 1940.




Approved unanimously.

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Telegrams to Mr. Young, President of the Federal Reserve
Bank of Boston, Messrs. Sanford and Hays, Secretaries of the Federal
Reserve Banks of New York and Cleveland, respectively, Mr. Leach,
President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, Mr. Stewart, Secretary of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, Mr. Gilbert, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, and Mr. Hale, Secretary
of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, stating that the Board
approves the establishment without change by the Federal Reserve Bank
of San Francisco on October 22, by the Federal Reserve Banks of New
York, Cleveland, Richmond, St. Louis, and Dallas on October 24, 1940,
and by the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston today, of the rates of discount and purchase in their existing schedules.
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, reading
as follows:
"The Board's staff understands informally from the
staff of the Securities and Exchange Commission that the
Citizens Bank and Trust Co., Charlottesville, Virginia,
a nonmember bank that has not filed an agreement with the
Board of Governors under section 8(a) of the Securities
Exchange Act of 1934 and section 5 of the Board's Regulation T, has been making certain loans which may be in
violation of these provisions.
"While the provisions of the statute are phrased as
a prohibition against borrowing, the position of the lending bank as a participant in such a transaction cannot be
overlooked and therefore it seems appropriate for the
Present question to be handled in a manner similar to
that worked out with your corporation for handling possible violations of Regulation U) as outlined in the




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"attached mimeographed letter (S-149). In the circumstances,
we have not taken up the subject with the Citizens Bank and
Trust Co., and have assumed that it would be convenient and
satisfactory to you for your corporation to handle the matter
in a manner similar to that worked out for similar questions
under Regulation U.
"It will be appreciated if you will keep us advised with
respect to the matter. Needless to say, the Board of Governors and the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond will be glad
to be of every possible assistance to you in disposing of
the question in this manner, or will be glad to handle it in
some other way if you should think it desirable."
Approved unanimously, together with a letter
to Mr. Leach, President of the Federal Reserve
Bank of Richmond, reading as follows:

"For your information there is attached a copy of a letter addressed to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
regarding the fact that the Citizens Bank and Trust Co.,
Charlottesville, Virginia, has made certain loans which may
be in violation of section 8(a) of the Securities Exchange
Act of 1934 and section 5 of the Board's Regulation T.
"It will be appreciated if you will cooperate fully
With the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation in any way
that may be of assistance to the corporation in working out
the matter."
Memorandum dated October 14, 1940, from Mr. Dreibelbis, Assistalit General Counsel, referring to a discussion which he had had with
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'Kcppang, examiner in charge, with respect to the question of conf*
•
lrmation of accounts maintained with the New York Bank by certain
central foreign banks and foreign governments and to a conference
hich he and Mr. Koppang had had with Messrs. Logan and Tiebout of
the

Legal Division of the New York Bank, as the result of which it

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be 40t to ask for confirmations in connection with the accounts




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Maintained by De Nederlandsche Bank, the Royal Netherlands Government, Banque Nationale de Belgique, Narodni Banka Cesko-Slavenska,
tatvijas Banka, Lietuvos Bankas, and the State Bank of the U.S.S.R.
The memorandum also stated that unless there was objection on the
Part of the Board, Mr. Koppang would make no effort to obtain the
usU8.1 confirmation of the accounts referred to.
The members of the Board agreed
of the accounts should
confirmation
that
requested.
be
not

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

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Secretary.
A
Pproved:




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Chairman.