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Minutes for

To:

October 24, 1960

Members of the Board

From: Office of the Secretary

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial below.
If you were present at the meeting, your initials will
Indicate approval of the minutes. If you were not present,
Your initials will indicate only that you have seen the
minutes.




Chin. Martin
Gov. Szymczak
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King

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Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

on Monday, October 24, 1960. The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Balderston, Vice Chairman
Szymczak 1/
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Mr. Sherman, Secretary
Mr. Thomas, Adviser to the Board
Mr. Young, Adviser to the Board
Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Mrs. Semia, Technical Assistant, Office of the
Secretary
Messrs. Noyes, Garfield, Koch, Robinson, Dembitz,
Eckert, Keir, Sigel, Solomon, Altmann, Fisher,
Manookian, Wernick, and Trueblood of the
Division of Research and Statistics
Messrs. Hersey, Sammons, Reynolds, Irvine, Katz,
Wood, Dahl, Gemmill, and Maroni, of the
Division of International Finance

Economic review.

Members of the staff of the Division of Inter-

national Finance discussed recent international economic and monetary
developments, including the rise in the price of gold in the London market,
4f.ter which the staff members of the Division of Research and Statistics
Ported on domestic economic and credit trends.
Governor Szymczak withdrew from the meeting at the conclusion of
the economic review.

All of the members of the staff except Messrs. Sherman

44a Fauver and Mrs. Semia also withdrew at this point and the following
eritered the room:

I/ Withdrew from meeting at point indicated in minutes.




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-2Mr. Hackley, General Counsel
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Johnson, Director, Division of Personnel
Administration
Mr. Benner, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Smith, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Young, Assistant Counsel
Mr. Rudy, Special Consultant, Legal Division
Mr. Leavitt, Supervisory Review Examiner, Division
of Examinations
Items circulated to the Board.

The following items, which had been

minutes
circulated to the Board and copies of which are attached to these
Under the respective item numbers indicated, were approved unanimously:
Item No.
Letter to Security Trust & Savings Bank, Storm
Lake, Iowa, approving the establishment of a
branch at 300 West 5th Street.

1

Letter to Union Bank and Trust Company, Ottumwa,
ic)wa, approving the establishment of a branch in
Agency, Iowa.

2

"International" savings accounts

°n

(Item No. 3).

At its meeting

with
October 18, 1960, the Board considered a draft of reply, submitted

4lnemornaum

dated October 13, 1960, from the Legal Division, to an inquiry

from the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago as to whether the "international
counts" plan contemplated for use by the Citizens Bank and Trust Company,
13ark Ridge, Illinois, would comply with Regulation Q, Payment of Interest
Orl Deposits.

The

retention of savings pass books by the bank was

Involved in the plan, and during the Board's discussion question was




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raised as to whether the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency had
not objected to retention of pass books by national banks.

The Board

therefore postponed action on the proposed reply to the Chicago Reserve
Bank until the Legal Division could get in touch with the Comptroller's
Office to clarify that point.
A memorandum dated October 21, 1960, from the Legal Division, which
had been distributed, reported that it had been learned that the Comptroller
Objected to retention of savings pass books by national banks when internal
controls surrounding their possession were inadequate.

Adequacy of controls

liae related to limitation on the easy accessibility to retained pass books,
for improper purposes, by officers and employees of the savings department.
This point having been clarified, the Legal Division renewed its recommendation that the draft of letter submitted with its memorandum of October 13
be sent to the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.
After a brief discussion, the letter to the Reserve Bank was
4PProved unanimously.

A copy is attached as Item No.

3.

Mr. Rudy left the meeting at this point.
Use of discount window.

As

the result of review by the Board of

the reports covering the examinations of the Federal Reserve Banks of
Minneapolis and Kansas City made earlier this year, letters were sent to
those Banks on September 7/ 1960, regarding the use of the discount window.
The letter to the Minneapolis Bank inquired about protracted borrowings by
*4/0 large banks in Minneapolis, and the letter to the Kansas City Bank
inquired about extended borrowings by nine reserve city banks and 23 country




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banks.

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In each case the Board asked about the circumstances underlying

the use of Reserve Bank credit and the administrative measures employed
by the Reserve Bank to encourage the member banks concerned to adjust
their affairs so as to avoid frequent recourse to the discount window.

The reply from the Minneapolis Bank, dated September 9, 1960, and the
reply from the Kansas City Bank, dated October 13, 1960, had been circulated.
Mr. Solomon indicated that he and Mr. Smith felt the reply from
the Minneapolis Bank gave a generally satisfactory explanation, while the
reply from the Kansas City Bank was less satisfactory.

Perhaps the replies

laPPeared in this light partly because only two banks were involved in the
Minneapolis District, whereas 32 banks were involved in the Kansas City
District.

Mr. Smith had reviewed the borrowings of the banks in question

811bsequent to the dates of the examination reports, Mr. Solomon continued,

and

found that the two Minneapolis banks had reduced their borrowings in

both volume and frequency.

However, a number of the banks in question in

the Kansas City District were continuing to borrow frequently and in fairly
substantial volume.

That did not necessarily mean that the borrowing was

°11g, he said, because there might be ample justification for it.
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On the

0ther hand, there might be some question as to the time being taken by the
borrowing banks to aajust their positions so as to obviate the need for
i'requent recourse to the discount window.
Governor Mills expressed concern about the long-range effect on

the administration of the Reserve Bank discount windows if the belief




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became circulated that the Board, as contrasted with the Division of
Examinations, was making inquiries that might seem to be looking toward
Punitive action with respect to discount practices.

Although it appeared

Probable that there had been a degree of leniency, especially at the
Kansas City Bank, country banks in the agricultural districts had perhaps
been willing to take on too many nonliquid loans, and thus had become
rather constant customers of the discount window.

To the extent that the

reported borrowings were necessitous, aggressive action on the part of
the Board at this time could be more harmful than helpful.
The discussion that ensued centered principally around problems
faced by banks in the Great Plains States in assisting ranchers and farmers
to rebuild herds that had been reduced during the drought that ended in
1956.

Governor Shepardson commented, in this connection, that in his

°Pinion the herds had been overbuilt at the time of the drought, and since
the end of the drought they had been rebuilt to what were considered
critically high levels in the minds of a number of knowledgeable people.
After further discussion the Board decided not to pursue further
at the present time the questions that had been raised regarding the use
°f the discount window.

It was understood that no acknowledgements would

be made of the letters received from the Minneapolis and Kansas City Banks,
but that the Board would continue to watch the situation in regard to the
extent of member bank
city.




borrowings at the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas

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Salary for Dallas Reserve Bank officer

(Item No.

4). Pursuant

to the favorable recommendation of the Division of Personnel Administration,
aS set forth in a file that had been circulated to the Board, unanimous
aPProval was given to a letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas
aPProving an annual salary for Mr. Philip E. Coldwell, as Vice President
in charge of research.

A copy of the letter is attached as Item No.

4.

Request from Justice Department for services of bank examiner
A memorandum from the Division of Examinations and the

(Item No

Legal Division dated October 21, 1960, had been distributed in connection
with a request from the Department of Justice that an experienced bank
examiner be assigned to assist the United States Attorney in preparing
fOZ the criminal trial of certain officers of the North Shore Bank, a
member bank in Miami Beach, Florida, and to act as an expert witness at
the trial set for November 14, 1960.

The Department also asked that

certain records and reports relative to the matter be made available to
the examiner, and for review by the United States Attorney.
The memorandum indicated that it had been ascertained informally

that the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency had received a similar
request and would make the services of the District Chief National Bank
miner available.

It was also understood that the Federal Deposit

Insurance Corporation had received a similar request but had not reached
a.

decision as to its reply.

The memorandum further pointed out that

aever] years ago, in connection with the same case, the Board was requested




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to make reports of examination available to the United States Attorney
aaa that, at the Board's request, an examiner for the Federal Reserve Bank
Of Atlanta took the reports to the United States Attorney in Miami for
review in the examiner's presence.
Mr. Solomon said he had learned informally that the Federal
Reserve Bank of Atlanta was somewhat reluctant to comply with the request,
teeling that it would be difficult to prove that fraud had occurred and
that the pressing of charges was unwarranted.

Mr. Solomon commented that

the charges did not grow out of facts reported to the Department of Justice
bY the Federal Reserve, but out of facts reported by the Home Loan Bank
System in connection with the operations of related savings and loan associations. The Reserve Bsnk's attitude was, of course, not necessarily a
controiling factor in the Board's decision.
Mr. Hackley commented that from a legal point of view the request
aPpeared to fall within the scope of section 9(b) of the Board's Rules of
°rganization regarding instances in which an officer of a Federal Reserve
1/ank is asked to testify, the Rules providing that he can do so only with

the Board's approval.
Mr. Solomon said his conversations with the Office of the Comptroller
°f the Currency did not indicate that that Office had given a great deal of
thclUght to the validity of the charges in the case, its attorneys having

felt that there was no alternative to compliance with the request of the
JUstice Department.




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Governor Mills expressed the view that it would be in order to
allow a bank examiner to appear as an expert witness on examination
procedures.

However, if it was expected that the examiner would go beyond

such role and give testimony regarding material that had been obtained in
confidence in the course of examination of a member bank, he thought the
request should be carefully studied in the light of the rules of procedure
governing disclosure of unpublished material.

In such event, he felt that

the Board should refuse to permit the examiner to appear except under
subpoena.

If confidential information were subpoenaed, the Board should

then reach a decision as to whether it would comply.
Governor Robertson stated that in his opinion, in view of the fact
that the Department of Justice had asked the cooperation of the supervisory
e*gencies, the Board had no alternative but to comply.

One Government

4genCY shouldnothave to resort to a subpoena to get cooperation from
another agency.

He would be unwilling to assume that this was a political

Persecution, as had been alleged, rather than a bona fide criminal proceeding,
arld he would suggest assigning the best man in the District to the case.
After further discussion it was agreed by a majority of the members
°I) the Board, Governor Mills dissenting, that the request of the Department
Justice should be granted.

It was understood that the reply to the

1)ePartment of Justice informing it of the Board's decision would be worded

in sUch a way as to make it clear that the examiner to be assigned would
"sist the United States Attorney before the trial only in an advisory




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capacity and not in the actual preparation of the case, and that his
testimony was to be given only as an expert witness and not as a part of
the prosecution.
A copy of the letter sent to the Department of Justice pursuant
to this action is attached as Item NO.

5.

The meeting then adjourned.




Secretary's Note: Pursuant to the request
contained in a memorandum dated October 21,
1960, from Mr. Entriken, Legal Assistant,
Legal Division, Governor Shepardson today
granted permission for him to work part-time
as Secretary-Treasurer of the Northeast
Masonic Temple Association, Inc.

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Secretafy

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

Item No.
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FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.
AOORM

°maim. COIRRESPO
TO THE *CARD

October 24 1960

Board of Directors,
Security Trust & Savings Bank,
Storm Lake, Iowa.
Gentlemen:
Pursuant to your request submitted through
the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve System approves the
establishment of a branch at 300 West 5th Street,
Storm Lake, Iowa, by Security Trust & Savings Bank,
provided the branch is established within six months
from the date of this letter.




Very truly your
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.

OICINCIC

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No. 2
10/24/60

WASHINGTON 25, D. C.
ADDRESS

orrsciAL

CORRICSOONOICNCE
TO THE •OAR0

October 24, 1960

Board of Directors,
Union Bank and Trust Company,
Ottumwa, Iowa.
Gentlemen:.
Pursuant to your request submitted through the
oederal Reserve Bank of Ghicago, the Board of Governors of
the Federal Reserve System approves the establishment of a
branch in Agency, Iowa, by Union Bank and Trust Caopany,
orovided the branch is established within nine months from
the date of this letter.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

Item No. 3

10/24/60

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

October 24, 1960

Mr. Paul C. Hodge, Vice President,
General Counsel and Secretary,
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago,
Chicago 90, Illinois.
Dear Mr. Hodge:
The Board has considered the "International Accounts"
Plan of Citizens Bank and Trust Company, Park Ridge, Illinois,
as detailed in the information submitted with your letter of
August 17, 1960. The Application-Agreement Form contains a
statement, "That my INTERNATIONAL SAVINGS pass book is to be
retained by the Bank and held as representing my INTERNATIONAL
SAVINGS ACCOUNT collateral, and --", which the Park Ridge bank
has requested permission to delete and to issue written receipts
for each deposit in lieu of a pass book. The plan contemplates
retention of the pass book accompanied by authority in the bank
to make withdrawals to repay loans in the event a payment is not
made within seven days after a check has been cashed.
Section 217.1(e) of Regulation Q provides that withdrawals
are permitted upon presentation of the pass book through payment
to the person presenting the pass book. It is also provided that
'rhe presentation by any officer, agent or employee of the bank
of a pass book or a duplicate thereof retained by the bank or by
any of its officers, agents or employees is not a presentation of
the pass book within the meaning of this part except . . . where
the pass book is held by the bank as security for a loan." The
credit account is established at the time of the opening of the
Savings account; however, loans are considered as coming into
existence only when a check drawn against the credit account is
cashed. Consequently, at the time the pass book is presented in
connection with a withdrawal it would be held as security for a
lean. It is the Board's view, therefore, that the above-mentioned
exception of section 217.1(e) is applicable and that the plan,
48 submitted, conforms to Regulation Q.




BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Hr. Paul G. Hodge
The Citizens Bank and Trust Company has asked permission
to delete the above-quoted provisions concerning pass books and
issue written receipts for each deposit. Section 217.1(e) provides
that "Savings Deposit" also means a deposit evidenced by a written
receipt or agreement although not a pass book. However, when the
deposit is so evidenced, "Withdrawals are permitted only through
payment to the depositor himself but not to any other person
whether or not acting for the depositor." This quoted portion of
Regulation Q would prevent a withdrawal from the savings account at
the end of seven days to pay a loan, should no new payment occur
Within such period. It is the Board's view that the plan would
violate the terms of Regulation Q0 should written receipts be
issued in lieu of the pass book.
It would be appreciated if the Board's views would be
communicated to the Citizens Bank and Trust Company.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No.

WASHINGTON 25. O. C.

10/24/60

4

ADORES* OffiCIAL COMIIIMPONOINCIE
TO The SOAR*

OctOber 24, 1960

pONFIDENTIAL (FR)
Mr. Watrous H. Irons President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas,
Dallas 20 Texas.
Dear Mr. Irons:
The Board of Governors approves the payment of
salary to Mr. Philip E. Coldwell as Vice President (in
charge of Research) of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas
at the rate of $17,000 per annum for the period November 1
through December 31, 1960, which is the rate fixed by your
Board of Directors as reported in your 'letter of October 13.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No. 5
10/24/60

WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORREBPONDENCC
TO THE BOARD

October 25, 1960.
4. Malcolm Richard Wilkey,
Assistant Attorney General,
T,Crilninal Division,
united States Department of Justice,
1444angt0n 25, D. C.
Attention:

Re:

Ni'. Nathaniel E. Kossack,
Chief, Fraud Section.

United States v. Baron de Hirsch Meyer,
Leonard L. Abess, W. George Kennedy,
and Sam R. Becker. fliami, Florida
(ERN:NEK:baj 29-18-243)

Mr. Wilkey:
This is a reply to your undated letter received October 21, 1960,
;1 1 1.ch refers to the request made by Assistant United States Attorney
Brons of Miami, Florida, that an examiner from this office be
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elgned to him to advise in the preparation of the above case.
It is the Board's understanding that the examiner would be used

r()r,the purpose of informing Mr. Brons about banking practices and pos84

Y of testifying in an expert capacity. Er. Brons yesterday telephoned
stated that the services of the examiner would be needed for the
:
011111°d between now and the trial on November 14, 1960, and for approximately
e additional week after the trial date.
The Board has considered your written request for the above stated
I311rPos
Ber,. e and has authorized Er. Nalcolm Bryan, President of the Federal Resend an examiner to your office in Miami as
Bank of Atlanta, 0
t4:e -LY as possible. The arrangements necessary to send an examiner may
little time since these men are assigned to examinations in the
al:'n District. However, every effort will be made to make a man available
kr:n early date. It is contemplated that any records which the Reserve
eiders pertinent will be sent with the examiner for review by the
thlit
ed States Attorney.
Very truly(yoUrs,
./'




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Merritt Sher n,
Secretary:

Governor Mills' memorandum of December 271 1960
together with Mr. Sherman's memorandum of the
same date, was circulated to all members of the
Board with the minutes of October 25 1960.




BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Correspondence

Date

December 27, 1960

Subject:

Reference is made to the attached memorandum from Governor Hills
ng the minutes of the meeting of the Board held on October 25, 1960,
lch he states that he is not initialing these minutes because he feels
or' should be expanded beyond the mere reference to the informal discussion
ault cash and reserve requirements that took place at that time.

reCardi

Since a detailed record of the informal discussion on October 25
tw%
ii8t11°t kept by the Secretary, it was not possible to write the minutes for
Ohq 8essi0n in as much detail as is customary for most Board meetings.
Inall Martin had asked that the meeting be called with only limited
attt
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the'ndance for the purpose of having an exploratory exchange of ideas on
I'larksnject of vault cash in advance of that morning's meeting of the Open
actie
'Committee. He pointed out that he did not have in mind that any
re :n would be taken or decision reached at that meeting of the Board
'
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14(14j-11g the subject. Because of the nature of this meeting, which was
-ively brief, notes were made only of the main points of the discussion-40t,'
comments. The substance of some of these notes was inthc)rated by reference in the paragraph starting on page 5 of the minutes
Meeting on October 26, 1960, at which point there is presented a
of the comments of Governor Mills. The October 26 minutes are
acti,--eu to present the views of all members of the Board leading to the
-11 taken on that date.

ehllent




December 27, 2960.
Mr. Sherman

Minutes of October 25, 100

Governor Mills

The Minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors on
2!tober 25 are continued in circulation without my initialing. The
butes of October 25 were a precursor of the Minutes of October 26
which the subject of vault cash and reserve requirements was re.
to a decision. If our Minutes are to have value, those for
rtdbor 25 should be expanded beyond the mere reference "There fo1r‘led an informal discussion" to give the spirit and extent of that
gi
scussion.

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