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Minutes for October 23, 1958

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

Board of Governors
Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
of the Federal Reserve System on the above date.
of policy actions
It is proposed to place in the record
Section 10 of the
required to be kept under the provisions of
in this set of
Federal Reserve Act an entry covering the item
the subject reminutes commencing on the page and dealing with
ferred to below:

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Approval of a discount rate of
2-1/2 per cent for the Federal
Reserve Banks of Philadelphia,
Richmond, St. Louis, Minneapolis)
and Dallas

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Chm. Martin
Gov. Szymczak
Gov. Vardaman 1/
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov, Balderston
Gov, Shepardson

/ In accordance with Governor Shepardson s memorandum of March 8,
Governor Vardaman for
1957, these minutes are not being sent to
initial.




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The Board met in the Board Room at 11:30 a.m. on October 23,
1958, with Governors Szymczak, Robertson, and Shepardson present.

At

11:52 Vice Chairman Balderston joined the meeting by means of a telephone
connection from Boston, Massachusetts.
PRESENT:

Mt. Balderston, Vice Chairman (by telephone at
11:52 a.m. from Boston)
Mt. Szymczak
Mt. Robertson
Mt. Shepardson
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Discount rate.

Sherman, Secretary
Thurston, Assistant to the Board
Riefler, Assistant to the Chairman
Molony, Special Assistant to the Board

At Governor Szymczak's request the Secretary

reported a telephone call he had received at approximately 11:25 a.m.
fl'om First Vice President Hilkert of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Philadelphia, who stated that the board of directors of that Bank had
voted to increase the discount rate from 2 to 2-1/2 per cent effective
tile day following approval by the Board of Governors.

The Secretary

reported that Mr. Hilkert had stated that, while the action by the
directors was unanimous and was not contingent upon similar action at
thi2 time by any other Reserve Bank, the directors had requested that

there be transmitted to the Board an explanation that their action was
looked upon as a technical financial money market move for the purpose
of adjusting the discount rate to other rates in the money market.

It

/748 not their feeling that general economic conditions, particularly
'
those in the Philadelphia District, called for additional restrictive
credit measures at this particular time; in fact, the directors probably




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would not have acted to increase the rate if they had believed that it
would be interpreted as action based on Third District conditions.

They

also expressed the strong hope that other Reserve Banks would take action
which could be announced at the same time that their action on the
discount rate was announced if the Board approved the increase, and they
urged that in making the announcement there be provided an eloquent
explanation to make clear to the press that the increased rate represented
a technical money market adjustment rather than a move designed to bring
about greater restraint on economic activity.
Governor Robertson stated that he felt the increased rate should
be approved by the Board but that announcement of the increase should be
made in the
usual manner without any statement of interpretation by the
Boardof its action in approving the rate.
Governor Shepardson said that as he recalled the discussion at
the

meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee on October 211 19581

there was a general feeling among the members of the Committee and the
Reserve Bank Presidents that a move in the discount rate such as the
Philadelphia Directors had voted was justified at this time on a technical
basis°

He was not sure as to the extent to which the Board should offer

suPplementary information in connection with the announcement of any
Crease that
it might approve.
Mr. Molony inquired whether Governor Robertson's comment was
directed to the Board's formal statement of a rate increase or whether
it 4PPlied to informal discussions with representatives of the press.




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Governor Robertson responded that he would take the approach he
had suggested in either case.

He felt the action should speak for itself.

Governor Szymczak stated that Governor Shepardson's comment was
Ln line with the views expressed at the Open Market meeting on October 21
when, time and again, the statement had been made that a change in the
discount rate at this time would represent a technical adjustment.

This

attitude was fortified by the consensus that had been expressed by the
°Pen Market Committee that the degree of restraint applied through open
market operations should be continued during the next three-week period
at about the same level as that which had prevailed recently.
Mr. Riefler stated that it had been made clear at the October 21
meeting that if the directors of the New York Reserve Bank were to take
acti°n now on the discount rate, it would undoubtedly be on the basis that
it represented a technical adjustment only.

He felt that the discussion

at that meeting amounted virtually to a commitment that any such action
vould be in
the nature of a technical adjustment.
Governor Robertson said he would not object to any Reserve Bank
clisettssing the basis of its action but he would object to a statement from

the Board that attempted to interpret either the Board's action or the
4eti°n8 of the individual Reserve Banks. He went on to say that he had
not been
present at the Open Market meeting when this was discussed and
that .
'if there was
anything amounting to a commitment on this point at
that time, he would consider that to have been a mistake because he did
not think the Open Market Committee could make a commitment on a thing




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like this.

In any event, he did not think the Board should adopt a

Policy of explaining why a discount rate change was matie at the time
it was announced.
Governor Shepardson noted that whenever a change in rate was
made there was some discussion in the press of the basis of the change,
and he inquired of Mr. Moloay as to the handling of the announcement
With press representatives.
Mr. Molony said that the message reported from the Philadelphia
Bank would suggest that, in addition to the normal sort of announcement
that would be put out, there might be an additional written statement
from the Board as to the reason for the change.

His personal view was

not to favor that procedure, partly because it would set a precedent that
would be
undesirable.

However, the normal procedure would be to respond

to questions from the press at the time they were told of the action,
@ving background information that would help them in writing their
stories.

It had been customary to answer questions as best that could

be done.

On the basis of the discussion at the Open Market meeting on

October 21) he would have thought this usual procedure would be followed
111 discussing any announcement that might be made at this time.

He

recalled that there had been an extraordinary interest displayed at that
Illeeting in the matter of an announcement to be made in the event any of
the Reserve Banks took action on the discount rate.




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Governor Shepardson suggested that, if the rate change were
approved, Mr. Molony in presenting it to the press might be expected
to answer
questions in the manner he had described.
To this, Governor Robertson inquired what would be meant by a
"technical
adjustment" and whether that would signify that the move
was without credit significance but was being made only because other
interest rates had moved up.
At this point a telephone connection was established with Vice
Chairman Balderston, who was at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston.
Governor Szymczak reviewed for Governor Balderston the reason
for this meeting and the discussion that was in
progress regarding the
method of announcement of the rate increase,
in the event the Board
aPProved the
action of the Philadelphia Directors.
Governor Balderston stated that, if any explanatory statement
were included in the Board's release at this time, the public would
exPect an
explanatory statement in the future.

He questioned whether

it was desirable
to set such a precedent, even though the report,
ti
Federal Reserve Policy and Economic Stability", prepared by Dr. Asher
Aehinstein of the Legislative Reference Service of the Library of Congress
and.
released a few days ago, urged that the Federal Reserve make explanat°17 statements of its credit actions at the time they were taken.
Governor Balderston
went on to say that he felt it more in keeping with
eelltral banking practice
to let actions speak for themselves.
Governor Szymczak mentioned the discussion at the Open Market
Illeetillg on October 21 and suggested that that might alter the situation

at this

particular time.




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Governor Shepardson said that he thought that discussion could
be accommodated without including anything in the written statement
beyond the normal amount of information but through having Mr. Molony
er Mr. Thurston follow the customary procedure described for answering
questions to the best of their ability to provide background to the press
for writing their stories.
Governor Balderston stated that he favored this procedure, and
Governor Szymczak said that it would seem satisfactory to him although
he was not certain that it would meet the wishes of the Philadelphia
Bank Directors.
Governor Balderston noted that several other Reserve Banks were
having meetings of directors today and that, while the Board could not
be sure at this time as to which, if any, would take action to change
the discount rate, it should not be assumed that one explanation would
serve to apply to all of the Reserve Banks.

His view was that the

1)4rtieular Reserve Bank acting on a rate should be in the position of
e lolaining its own actions, when and if the Board approved the new rate.
The function of the Board was to review and determine, and since the
1(3al'd. might be reviewing and determining four or five rates at the same
it would seem difficult to provide any single explanation for the
a.ction even if the Board were to conclude that it was wise to have a
.t4tement from Washington, which he doubted.
Governor Szymczak noted that precedent was all against an exby the Board of its approval of a discount rate change.




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Governor Balderston then stated that he gathered that all four
members of the Board who were participating in this meeting would favor
limiting an official announcement of a discount rate change to the form
customarily used but that they would favor having Mr. Molony respond to
questions in the customary manner.
To this Governor Robertson responded that the Board should be
extremely careful on this point and that in no circumstances would he
aPprove a formal statement by the Board of the reasons for action it
might take.

He also felt that it was undesirable to have a "spokesman"

for the Board.

On the other hand, questions that might be presented to

Mr. Molony should be responded to with every fact that could possibly
be given out short of attempting to explain the significance of a given
acticm.

If an individual Reserve Bank wished to put out a statement of

its action, that was a matter for it to determine.

In response to a

question from Vice Chairman Balderston, Governor Robertson said that he
'
oula have no objection to Mr. Molony's giving out any facts that would
hell) the press in making their own interpretations of an action by the
13c/erd, but he would not favor having Mr. Molony explain that an increase
la the rate
at this time was made for technical reasons or for any other
Ileas°11-

Searching for a reason for his own action, Governor Robertson

84id that the
circumstances of the day warranted action to increase the
discount rate. He would not go farther than that, but the emphasis should
be on
economic conditions and the use of a credit instrument in the light
or these
conditions.




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Governor Balderston said that the responsibility for action on
the discount rate devolved on the directors of the Federal Reserve Banks
and on the Board in its review and determination of the rate.

For his

Part, he would favor approving the rate fixed by the Philadelphia
directors, but he would not give an official explanation of the reason
for the action at this time.
At this point the discussion turned to the types of questions
that Mr. Molony might receive when he met with the press on a rate action,
i
ncluding questions concerning the actions of individunl Reserve Banks
in fixing rates or not fixing them.
There was also discussed the question whether the Board should
approve the action taken by the Philadelphia Directors at this time or
whether it should defer acting until it was known whether other Federal
Reserve Banks also would act today.
On the latter point, all of the members of the Board participating
in the meeting
agreed that an increase in the discount rate from 2 to
2-1/2 per cent was justified at this time and that, accordingly, the
'
aetion of the Philadelphia Directors should be approved, providea at

t three
Reserve Banks acted in the course of the day to fix a rate
Of 2-1/2 per cent. It was also agreed that a rate of 3 per cent should
b
approvedP
for advances under section 10(b) of the Federal Reserve Act,
alc)ng with appropriate subsidiary rates.
It vas further agreed that if advice of such action vas received
from not
less than three Reserve Banks an announcement of an increase in




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the rate should be given to the press at 4:00 p.m. MST, that the usmol
form of press statement would be issued by the Board, that a wire of
advice would be sent to all Federal Reserve Banks and branches, and
that a statement of the Board's action would be filed with the Federal
Register.
In taking this action it was understood that Mr. Thurston and
14x. Molony would follow their customary procedure in answering questions
that might be presented from members of the press concerning any
announcement that might be issued later in the day.
Secretary's Note: During the course of the day
advice was received from the Federal Reserve Banks
of Richmond, St. Louis, Minneapolis, and Dallas
that the directors of those Banks had taken action
to increase their discount rates to 2-1/2 per cent,
as had the Philadelphia Bank, all to be effective
on the first business day following approval by the
Board. Accordingly, the Secretary advised the five
Reserve Banks that the Board approved the following
rates, effective October 24, 1958:
On discounts for and advances to member banks under
section313 and 13a for Federal Reserve Banks of Philadelphia,
Richmond, St. Louis, Minneapolis and Dallas--2-1/2 per cent;
On advances to member banks under section 10(b) for each
of these banks--3 per cent;
On advances to individunls, partnerships, and corporations,
other than member banks under last paragraph of section 13
for Richmond--4 per cent; St. Louis--3-1/2 per cent;
Minneapolis-4-1/4 per cent; and Dallas--4-1/2 per cent;
Establishment without change of remaining rates in each
Bank's existing schedule.
Thereupon the meeting adjourned at 12:28 p.m.