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1925
A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
4ste

was hela. in Washin„ton on Friday, October 2, 1942, at 2:30 p.rPRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Er.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczpir
1,11Cee
Draper
Evans

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Dreibelbis, General Attorney
Mr. Goldenueiser, Director of the Division of Research and Statistics
Mr. Leonard, Director of the Division of
Personnel Administration
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Thomas, Assistant Director of the
Division of Research and Statistics
Mr. Stark, Assistant Director of the Division of Research and Statistics
There were presented telegrams to Mr. Paddock, President of
tile
del'El Reserve Bank of Boston, Messrs. Treiber and McCreedy, Sectqt4rie

the Federal Reserve Banks of New York and Philadelphia,
te3Deet

At4rit

- e-q, Mr. McLarin, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of

1.4-a Messrs. Dillard and Hale, Secretaries of the Federal Roeel.—
Ye Bahl,
Francisco, respectively, stating that
t4i3o --- of Chicago and San
aPproves the establishment without change by the Federal Re'-e/3e11124 of San Francisco on September 29, by the Federal Reserve Bank
AtlEtnta on

September 30, by the Federal Reserve Banks of New York,

1.11114c1e113111a, Chicago, and San Francisco on October 1, 1942, and by the
1'41 Reserve Bank of Boston today, of the rates of discount and purQ114 14 their existinG
schedules.




Approved unanimously.

1926
10/2/42
In connection Lith the above action, reference was made to the discussion of the subject of
discount rates at the meeting of the Federal Open
Market Committee on September 28, and it was agreed
that consideration should be given at a meeting of
the Board on Tuesday, October 6, at 3:00 p.m. to
What the attitude of the Board should be with respect to a reduction in the discount rates on loans
and advances under sections 13, 13a, and 10(b) of
the Federal Reserve Act, and the establishment of
a preferential discount rate on advances secured by
direct obligations of the United States.
Mr. Ransom stated that a letter had been received under date

or 8ePte

lither

30, 1942,

from the Civil Service Commission, which was

Mc*essed to heads of departments and independent establishments of

G°Irel*nment

and which requested, in accordance with Section I of

the laal.
manpower Commission Directive No. XI, that the Board prepare

44c1Ubi1tto

the Civil Service Commission on or before October 6, 1942,

4 14t C)r the positions in the Board's organization which are directly
e°11eerlled With the war effort or with essential supporting activities,
nie "equate performance of the duties of which positions requires (a)
lS or abilities and (b) a considerable period of training

°I)eciel

eli)erience.
Ranbom stated that, because of the pressure under which

t4111
etiber

of the Board were working an

the fact that a reply had been

"ecl by October 6, it would be his recommendation that the Board
,
the matter to the Personnel Committee with authority to approve a
olar
to be drafted by Mr. Leonard in collaboration with Mr. Thurston.
to
eLM

In a discussion of the matter, the statement was made that the

had
taken the position in the past that it would not ask for




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10/
/
3
42
At of
Of any of its employees, and Mr. Leonard pointed out that if
tile
Ird submitted the list requested by the Civil Service Commission
it would not
be askins for defelwent of any of its employees but would
be 3stti
-1°1-g up general classes of positions in the Board's organization
80tbat, if in
the future the question of deferment should nrise in indi
a.
cases, these cases could be considered. The members of the
13°1 c°11cUrred in the observation that if the suggested plans for a

Were to be carried out it might be necessary for the Board
t°

deferment of

SOMB

of the key members of the staff in order to

111133.tlai
'
ll a sufficient organization to carry on the work of the Board.
11r. McKee inquired whether similar requests were received by
the
Pe4ral Reserve
Banks, and Mr. Leonard was inclined to believe that

Ws

not the case. It was understood that, while no reference would

to the Federal Reserve Banks in the list to be prepared in re%Ise tc) the civil Service Commission's request, appropriate reference
t)14

Reserve Banks as the operating agencies in the System and as fis-

l'eln8 of the United States would be made in the letter transmitting
tile list.
Following a review by Mr. Leonard of
certain of the provisions

or the

Wer 1,
-1npower Commission Di-ective No. XI, relating to requests
th
-e 0

ecupational deferment of officers and employees of departments

kZt

'"

t tea

thElt

be

of the executive branch of the Federal Government, he

c, conference of the division heads of the Board's staff had

held
this morning at which an outline was prepared of the basis




1928
10N42
lipon
uich the list
requested by the Civil Service Commission might be
Prepared.

Following the reading of the draft of
outline, and an indication by the members
of the Board that they were in general agreement thereivith, Mr. McKee moved that, in accordance with the recommendation made by Mr.
Ransom, the matter be referred to the Personnel Committee with power to act.
During the discussion of the above matter, Mr. Goldenweiser

Chairman

:140t

6110 shortage of personnel, the Board should authorize the contin-

1141°Iacer

thtt
t,

Eccles raised for discussion the question whether, in

elaPloyment, beyond the age of retirement, of officers and em-

of the Federal Reserve Banks and the Board.

Mr. McKee stated

11 Order to preserve the rights under the retirement system of an
erriPloye
wto had reached the age of 65, any action in this direction

howl

-ka be- 111
-

the form of a retirement and reemployment.

It was stated

3'111Y 17, 1941, the Federal Reserve Banks were advised that the
well3-

not object to the payment of salary to former employees of

Who had been retired and reemployed, it being assumed that the
d. not
take such action except during periods of emergency and
oloilv
th

-Lor

short periods.

Chairman Eccles suggested that, in view of

Biti
On Previously taken by the Board with respect to retirement at

65, t
he matter should be reviewed and, if necessary, a letter setting
114 the m.
loardts position sent to the Federal Reserve Banks.




1929
10/2/42

-5The matter was referred to Mr. Szymczak
for consideration (in consultation with the
Personnel Committee so far as the Board's
employees were concerned) and recommendation
to the Board as to the action to be taken.
At this point, Y:e. Smead, Chief of the Division of Bank Opera-

tions,

joined the meeting.
Chairman Eccles expressed the opinion that, as a means of aid-

the B°ard in meeting the loss of employees for military service and
°tiler
War work, the elevator operators in the Board's building should be
l'eM"ecl bY women, the number of guards should be reduced, and the amount
clt11°11 done on the grounds should be curtailed. Mr. Morrill stated that
4haa
been working on an analysis of the operation of the Board's building
rtc) the standpoint of both personnel and expense, and had discussed the
%el" with

TZessrs. Draper and Leonard.
The matter was discussed and referred
to Mr. Draper for a recommendation to the
Board as to the action to be taken.

Mess. Leonard and Stark withdrew from the meeting at this

Chairman Eccles recommended that the Board act to reduce requirements of member banks in central reserve cities from 22 to
Zo e
t cent of
demand deposits, effective immediately. The reasons for
tIle

he said, were that it had been necessary to purchase a large
E41114t
0f securities for the System account during the current week,
44t thia
situation very likely would continue in the face of forthcom-

INT

"
e lirY financing in which the Treasury would issue between




1930
10/2/42

-6%,000,000,000 and ,15,000,000,000
4.
of securities in October, and that in
this si
tuation it was his opinion that the System should not rely, at
tb
Particular
time, solely on open market operations to put the neceseary

rUnds into
the market.

He added that if the Board should decide to

4-4 action

would be faced with the question whether it Should confine
itbe
l'cduction to requirements of central reserve city banks or make a

"tio4Wide

Nt the

reduction, and that it would be his suggestion that the Board

first alternative and then take the position that further funds

17°1114 be s
upplied as needed in the form of open market operations until
,t
ttMe

tor' 11

as new developments

rilrther chancre
in

reserve

the situation indicated the justification
requirements.

Szymczak referred to the discussion
Of changes in reserve requirements at the
meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee
on September 28, 1942, and moved that reserve
requirements of member banks in New York and
Chicao be reduced from 22 to 20 per cent of
net demand deposits, effective as of the opening of business on October 3.
As a substitute for Mr. Szymczakts motion,
Mr. McKee moved that, effective as of the openirk; of business on October 3, reserve requirements of member banks on net demand deposits
be reduced to the following percentages of such
deposits:
Centrl reserve city banks . .
20
Reserve city banks
18
Country banks
13
Mr. .11Kbets motion was put by the chair
and lost, Messrs. McKee and Draper voting "yes"
and Messrs. Eccles, Ransom, Szymczak, and Evans
voting "no".




1931
10/2/42

-7Mr. Szymczak's motion was put by the chair
and carried, Messrs. Eccles, Ransom, Szymczak,
McKee, and Evans voting "yes" and Mr. Draper
voting "no".
In accordance with this action, the Supplement to Regulation D was amended to read as follows, with the understanding that announcement
of the Board's action would be made for release
In the morning papers of October 3. On this action Mr. Draper voted "no".
"SInplement to Remilation D
"Effective as to each member bank at the opening
of business on October 3, 1942
"Reserves Required to be_IialalaLnal_ly
Member Banks with _Federal Reserve Banks
"Pursuant to the provisions of section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act and section 2(a) of its Regulation D, the
143ard of Governors of the Federal Reserve System hereby prescribes the following reserve balances which each member
bank of the Federal Reserve System is reouired to maintain
on deposit with the Federal Reserve Bank of its district:
6 per cent of its time deposits plus-14 per cent of its net demand deposits if
not in a reserve or central reserve city;
20 per cent of its net demand deposits if
in a reserve city, except as to any bank located in an outlying district of a reserve
City or in territory added to such city by the
extension of the city's corporate limits, which,
by the affiriaative vote of five members of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System,
Is permitted to maintain 14 per cent reserves
against its net demand deposits;
20 per cent of its net demand deposits if
located in a central reserve city, except as to
any bank located in an outlying district of a
central reserve city or in territory added to
such city by the extension of the city's corporate limits, which, by the affirmative vote of
five members of the Board of Governors of the




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-8"Federal Reserve System, is permitted to maintain 14 per cent or 20 per cent reserves against
its net demand deposits.
"The supplements to Regulation D which have previously been issued are hereby revoked and superseded."

Mr. McKee stated that it had come to his attention that the Se,
s
-11(t Exchange Commission was giving considetation to a re,vision
Qt its 10,,
---xY rules covering registered companies so as to require that
Wilenev
er requests
were made of stockholders for voting proxies the rebe accompanied, among other things, by a list of the salaOf the officers and employees of the company and a statement of the
14,7a8 of
tile officers or directors from the company or any of its substeliElries, which in
would include loans
the case of bank holding companies
tr0111 tile
subsidiary banks or other corporations. He also said that from

tile

orriation available it would appear that the revised rules would

1144 to
three or four bank holding companies, and that inquiry had been
bY
°tits
to

official of one of the companies whether the Board, in view

responsibility

for supervision of bank holding companies, proposed

t4lve

411Y action with respect to the matter. Yr. McKee added that he
Ilt;et 10
°ked into the situation and that it did not appear that any action
1hr, .

led for by the Board at the present time, but that he was bringt
0 the attention of the Board so that, in the event other members

ot
to

consideration could be giver to what, if any, action the
01lei take.

All of the members indicated agreement with the opin-

by Mr. McKee that no action by the Board was re:vired at




1933
14/2/42

_9McKee stated that the suggestion

had been made by the

41111led
8ervices that a meeting of the representatives of the Federal Reaer7e B
anks immlling Regulation V loans be heldin Washington at an
el'17 date, and
that the War Loans Cormittee was in agreement with this

There was unanimous agreement that the
meeting should be held on a date to be fixed
by the War Loans Committee.
At this point, Messrs. Thurston, Snead, Dreibelbis, Wyatt, end
Thom—
left the meeting, and the action stated with respect to each of
ttel's hereinafter referred to was then taken by the Board:
haezta

The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
leserve System held on October 1, 1942, were approved unanimously.
Ldemorandum dated September 25, 1942, from Mr. Stark, Assistant

ti
)414

- of the Division of Research and Statistics, recommending that
Alic
e Elizabeth Bourneuf be appointed as an Associate Economist in

51°11) With salary at the rate of '3,800 per annum, effective as
t

e date upon
which she enters upon the performance of her duties aftvi
ile; Passed satisfactorily the usual physical examination.
Approved unanimously'.
Letter to Mr. Fleming, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of
elelld) reading as follows:
130 "Referring to your letter of September 24, 1942, the
p af:d of Governors approves the appointment of Mr. Herbert
Com.:4,adds, president of the National Screw and Manufacturing
Cleveland, Ohio, as a member of the Industrial




1_934
10/2/42
-10Committee for the Fourth Federal Reserve District
1, serve for the remainder of the term ending February 28,
4.A3, to succeed Mr. Carl C. Gibbs, deceased."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Er. Clerk, First Vice President of the Federal Re8erve g
ank of San Francisco, reading as follows:
1
, "Reference is made to your letter of September 221
17:742, transmitting the report of examination of the Spring111 e Banking Company, Springville, Utah, as of September
witl-`,942) and advising us that the expenditure in connection
-"
..the remodeling of the bank quarters will reach apxlmately '42,000 instead of approximately .f32,500 as
exelii011s1Y approved by the Board. You state that the amount
ab ended in excess of the estimate does not appear unreasonthat by
the Under present conditions, and it is understood
bee end of the year the carrying value of the property will
educed to 00,000 and in addition approximately $5,500
wil44- be charged off on the new equipmedit purchased.
"In view of the circumstances the Board will interpose
jection to the additional expenditure of approximately
000 for the purpose of remodeling the banking quarters."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. R. E. Anderson, Director of Finance of the
1:flitted

St tes Maritime Commission, reading as follows:
24 "Receipt is acknowledged of your letter of September
NI 1942, advising that a guaranteed loan to the Barneslith Shipbuilding Company, in the amount of $200,000,
we,
aPproved by the United States Maritime Commission on
118t 25) 1942.
In this connection,

there is enclosed a copy of a
I.v'er received by the Board from Mr. H. G. McConnell, Asd4tElnt Vice President, Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis,
!
cl September 22, 1942, with further reference to this
1,0"
;1 er. You will note from Mr. McConnell's letter that the
ti,:e11€11 Reserve Bank deems it desirable, in view of the Mari140'1,e, Commission's General Order NO. 54 Revised of August 25,
that certain authorizations in connection with the
blr°Ye mentioned loan be specifically ratified and confirmed
'he Maritime Commission.




1_935
10/2/42
"It will be appreciated if you will advise us in this
Ina
ttar in order that we may reply to Mr. McConnell's letter."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the Presidents of all the Federal Reserve Banks,
as follows:
"The Board has received several inquiries regarding
he
status under Regulation V: of a charge account in which
s6:e balance
remaining unpaid beyond the tenth day of the
wil?°nd calendar month represents the sale of an article
thleh the buyer has refused to pay for on the ground that
e article is defective. In answering this question, three
classes
of cases need to be distinguished.
"In the first place, if the Registrant takes the positi
4r11 that the article is not defective, he should consider
account to be in default.
"In the second place, if the article is defective so
that
the Registrant must correct the defect or replace the
fr;lele in order to fulfill his obligations under the conei:;et of sale, the regulation does not require him to conthe account to be in default, pending such correction
replacement.
etti "In the third place, if on the 10th day of the second
ellaar month after the date of sale the question as to
ten" or not the article is defective has not yet been de1117,'1141eds the Registrant should consider the account to be
vlthat efault. Of course, if it is subsequently determined
the article is defective, the rule stated in the preParagraph is applicable.
or
"Whether a particular case falls within one or another
t4 tIlese classes is a question of fact to be determined in
Ree light of all of the surrounding circumstances. If the
rant has taken the article back, this would ordinarily
be
1,e an indication that he expects to correct the defect or
e?lace the article. If the article is still in the posses41°4 of the customer, however, this vvould be an indication,
the absence of other evidence, that the article is not
detective
or that the matter has not yet been determined.
any case where the account is considered by the
E%
rant to be not in default, there would be a question
110'
0 whether the parties are acting in good faith and with
rorintent to evade or circumvent the regulation, and there11,!,ila any such case the Registrant for his own protection
or'
44 see that his records contain an adequate statement
the relevant facts."




Approved unanimously.

1936
-12Letter to Mr. Hart McCoriLick, District Clerk of Bexar County,
44 Ant ni
°--0, Texas, reading as follows:
"This is in reply to your letter of September 22, re'
erding the Board's Regulation W.
ri "You request that you be permitted to arrange the reof your outstanding instalment indebtedness on
more liberal than would be permitted by the regulation.
n-gulationIV is a regulation of general application and does
cc)
at Provide for the granting of exceptions in individual
whses unless they fall under some general rule. It is only
fo
:
41,a ease falls within a class of cases, such as is provided
L'Y section 10(d) in necessitous circumstances, that exaptions are available.
'In making provision for relief in the event of undue
IVBhip
I
resulting froiu unforeseen contingencies, the Board
viL concluded that it could go no further than to permit re01' refinancing for a period of twelve months. The
peucl has been asked on several occasions to lengthen this
lirlod but has considered that this would not be in the pub13ec.interest. You will readily understand that if a longer
'
se;
1°c1 Were permissible the regulation could easily fail to
debt
!its purpose of stimulating early repayment of consumer
bei 'Regulation W, as you are aware, is one of the measures
/Ile;
14 tEtken as a part of the program to restrain the developor inflationary tendencies in the war emergency. You
of .
‘
14' recall that the President said in his message to Congress
111)1,'Pril 27, 1942, 'To keep the cost of living from spiraling
er141*cis we must discourage credit and installment buying, and
e4°11rege the paying off of debts, mortgages and other oblialial()Ils; for this promotes savings, retards excessive buying
Du
,"ds to the amount available to the creditors for the
'
chase of Wel- Bonds'.
exp„"The only suggestion that we can make to you is that you
fully the possibility of consolidating your incleC:
iT Care
lo
te-Ress
into one loan of more than $1,500, or several such
10
:
4e. The regulation is not specifically applicable to
lls above .(1,500 and such a procedure would presumably en,1)1
4,
3 9 You to work out a schedule of payments that -mpuld be
we.4e satisfactory than if the loans were not consolidated.
1 4°17 that you will keep in mind the program of which Regu1(111°4 W is a part and endeavor to liquidate the debt as rapto Y es possible in accordance with the same rules that apply
other
debtors.




Approved unanimously.

1937
10/2/42

-13Letter to Mr. P. B. Moss, President of the Billings Utility

Corai)ezY Bj
lii5Montana, reading as follows:
"This is to acknowledge your letter of September 15,
.V42 maki
ng a further request for a report which an exam:
r made in connection with your application to the Fed1,,
.
a1 Reserve Bank of Minneapolis for a loan under section
-" of the Federal Reserve Act.
"It is understood that your complaint against the
Pecle
t, rel. Reserve Bank of Minneapolis has been considered by
Pederal courts and in each instance the court held that
,srolir complaint had no merit. The Board is convinced that
,
h 111'aPplict-Aion for a loan was given careful consideration
the Federal Reserve Bank and it also may be noted that
report you requested is of a confidential nature. In
the circumstances, we do not feel that it is appropriate for
a copy of such rert to be furnished to you."

1

Approved unanimously, together with
the following letter to Honorable James E.
"Murray, United States Senate:
en

"This refers to your letter of September 23, 1942,
p.T8iEC a copy of a letter addressed to the Board by Mr.
MO, President of the Billings Utility Company,
'
'
4 lle,e) Montana, making a further request for a copy of
at
ti e aminer's reuort made in connection with his applica11 11 to the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis for a loan
ter the
provisions of section 13b of the Federal Reserve
to: Mx'. Moss had also sent a copy of his letter directed
vi,. 1;he Board, and you will recall that we have previously
tl'en to you regarding this matter under dates of May 20
3-114 9, 1942.
'Pursuant to your request, we are enclosing for your
Ijo °Illation a copy of a letter we have just written to Mr.
&ts.. and also a copy of a recent decision of the United
ee District Court for the District of Minnesota holdina
'
13,:t.tat Mr. 'Moss' complaint against the Federal Reserve
°f Minneapolis is without merit."

a




Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

e,,P.05)b
Secretary.

Chairman.