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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System with the Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks 1Nas held in
the offices of the Board in Washington on Tuesday, October 19, 1943,
at 10:15 a.m.




PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper
Evans

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Smead, Chief of the Division of Bank
Operations
Mr. Parry, Chief of the Division of
Security Loans
Mr. Dreibelbis, General Attorney
Mr. Leonard, Director of the Division
of Personnel Administration
Mr. Thomas, Assistant Director of the
Division of Research and Statistics
Mr. Pollard, Assistant Chief of the
Division of Examinations
Messrs. Paddock, Sproul, Williams, Leach,
McLarin, Young, Davis, Peyton, Leedy,
Gilbert, and Day, Presidents of the
Federal Reserve Banks of Boston, New
York, Philadelphia, Richmond, Atlanta,
Chicago, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Kansas
City, Dallas, and San Francisco, respectively
Messrs. Hays and Bryan, First Vice Presidents
of the Federal Reserve Banks of Cleveland
and Atlanta, respectively
Mr. Sienkiewicz, Secretary of the Presidents'
Conference

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Mr. Upgren, Vice President of the Federal
Reserve Bank of Minneapolis
Mr. Robb, Manager of the Research and
Statistical Department at the Federal
Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and Dir.
Wheeler, Director of Research at the
Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
Mr. Day stated that a meeting of the Presidents' Conference
was held in New York on October 15 and 16, 1943, at which time a meeting of the Board of Trustees of the Retirement System of the Federal
Reserve Banks was also held with the Presidents of all the Federal Reserve Banks attending and participating, and that at the latter meeting
the following actions were taken:
1. The reorganization plan of the Retirement System
as approved by the Presidents' Conference was accepted and approved by the Board of Trustees of
the Retirement System;
2.

The proposed rules and regulations governing the
management and operation of the Retirement System
were accepted and approved;

3. The proposed amendments to the rules and regulations
to provide for Board of Governors Plan for retirement
of the Board's employees were accepted and approved;
and

4. The following officers of the Board of Trustees of
the Retirement System were elected:
Chester C. Davis
Chairman
Vice Chairman - - - - William R. Milford
H. A. Bilby
Treasurer
- Yrs. Valerie R. Frank
Secretary - - - Assistant Secretary - William 0. Hume
Members of the Executive Committee were elected as
follows:
M. S. Szymczak
Allan Sproul
William D. Gentry
Hugh Leach
Chester C. Davis




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It was also stated that a letter had been received by the Board from
the Secretary of the Board of Trustees advising of these actions.
Mr. McKee inquired whether any action was necessary by the
Board at this meeting, to which Chairman Eccles replied in the negative.
Mr. Gilbert pointed out that no date had been set upon which
the changes in the Retirement System would become effective, and Mr.
Sproul said that they were to become effective only after the required
additional payments by the Reserve Banks and the Board had been made.
Mr. Day then stated that the following actions had been taken
by the Presidents' Conference with respect to the report of the Conference Committee on Insurance:
1.

Moved and seconded that the Conference, in agreement with the opinion of the majority of the members
of the Insurance Committee, disapprove that portion
of the insurance plan which provides for discontinuance of blanket bond insurance. Voted and passed
(unanimously approved).

2.

Moved and seconded that the Conference, in agreement
with the opinion of the majority of the members of
the Insurance Committee, disapprove that portion of
the insurance plan which provides for discontinuance
of registered mail and express insurance. Motion
lost (by a vote of seven to five).

3. Moved and seconded that the plan submitted by the
Insurance Committee for insuring registered mail be
approved and accepted: Provided, (1) that the officers and directors of the Reserve Banks are fully
protected against the consequences in the case of
ultra vires action; (2) that the Board of Governors
gives an unqualified opinion as to the legality of
the plan under both Federal and State laws; (3) that




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the method of distribution of losses be subject to
review; and (4) that that portion of the report which
relates to the absorption of any losses in excess of
25,000 also be subject to review. Voted and passed
(by a vote of seven to five).

4. Voted that, if the inter-insurance plan submitted by
the Insurance Committee is finally accepted and approved, the effective date of its operation be considered and recommended by the Insurance Committee.

These actions were discussed in the light of the consideration
Which had been given by the Federal Reserve Banks and the Board over a
Period of three years or more to the adoption of a comprehensive program
of self-insurance, the position taken by the Board that a plan should
be put into effect which would cover the principal risks of the Federal Reserve Banks which in the past had been covered by purchased insurance, the legal questions that had been raised from time to time,
and the difficulty of getting an agreement by the directors of the
Banks, the Presidents, and the Board of Governors on such a technical
matter in which there was room for wide differences of opinion.
During the course of this discussion it was suggested that
the meeting go into an executive session.

This suggestion was agreed

tO, whereupon everyone withdrew from the meeting with the exception
of the members of the Board, the Presidents of the Federal Reserve
Banks, and First Vice President Hays (who attended in the absence of
President Fleming).
At the conclusion of the executive session at 4:30 p.m., Messrs.




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Day and Sproul reported to Mr. Sienkiewicz as Secretary of the Presidents' Conference and Mr. Morrill as Secretary of the Board of Governors as follows:
On the Retirement System, the Presidents' Conference reported the approval of the Presidents' Conference
Plan for the Retirement System and the approval of the
Board's provisions for setting up its own plan for its
oun employees, and that the Retirement System would service that function. Mr. Sproul stated that there was a
discussion of a possible liberalization proposal with
respect to supplemental payments for employees retiring
before age 65 at the request of the Banks, and that it
was understood that the Presidents' Conference would
make additional representations to the Board of Governors on that matter for the purpose of getting a supplemental authorization.
The insurance report was completely discussed and
it has now gone back to the Presidents for further consideration. It was understood that it would be referred
to the Insurance Committee, that the matter of a legal
Opinion from the Board's counsel would be taken up by
the Board, and that the matter of the adoption of the
whole program would be taken up by the President of each
of the Federal Reserve Banks with his board of directors
in the light of the vote of seven to five at the Presidents' Conference for the adoption of the Insurance Committee plan.
Regulation N, Relations with Foreign Banks and
Bankers, was discussed, and it was understood that the
Board would give it further consideration in the light
of the discussion. Ir. Sproul stated that he would send
to the Board a copy of the report of the legal subcommlttee for the use of the Board in considering matters
of phraseology and detail.
Chairman Eccles informed the Presidents regarding
the survey that had been made by Professor Schultz of
the research work of the Federal Reserve System and gave
to each of the Presidents a copy of the report of this
survey, following which there was a general discussion.




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Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

CAlL,,QA9
Secretary.

Approved:




Chairman.