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A meeting of the l'ederal Reserve Board was held in the office of the
Federal Reserve Board on Tuesday, Octobr 18, 1927 at 10:30 a.m.
PRESENT:

Governor Young
Mr. Platt
Mr. Hamlin
Mr. James
Mr. Cunningham
Mr. Eddy, Secretary
Mr. McClelland, Asst. Secretary

The minutes of the meetings of the i=ederal Reserve Board held on the
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morning and afternoon of October 13th were read and approved.
The minutes of the social meeting of the Federal Reserve Board held
on the afternoon of October 13th were read and approved as amended.
The Governor presented letters dated October 13th and 15th from the
Deputy Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, with reference
to the action of the directors of the Federal Reserve bank in authorizing
the Governor of the Bank to cable the Nederlandsche Bank of Amsterdam,

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Holland offering to buy guilders up to 140,000,000, in an effort to
assist the latter institution in dealing with a credit situation which
had resulted in the Nederlandsche Bank increasing its discount rate
from 3 1/2/; to 4 1/2/4 the Denuty Governor in his last letter stating
that a cable has been received from the Nederlandsche Bank advising
that for the moment the situation seems to be well in hand, but that
entirely apart from the particular situation which prompted the action
Of the New York directors it would be quite agreeable
to the institution

geueraily to have the Federal Reserve bank maintain a portfolio of bills
with it.

The Deputy Governor also stated that as the guilder rate has

advanced to a little above parity since the increase in the discount




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rate of the Nederlandsche Bank, there is not now the same urgency for
the purchase of guilders as there might be if the guilder rate again
approached the export point from Holland thus threatening the Federal
Aeserve bank with further purchases of gold.
The above letters having been circulated among
the members of the Board were noted.
The Governor then presented letter dated October 14th and telegrams
dated October 14th and 15th from the Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank
Of 11w York, with respect to the agreement of the Federal Reserve Bank of
New York to participate in a credit arrangement granted by various banks
Of issue to the Bank of Poland, in furtherance of plans for the stabilization of the Polish currency; the last advice stating that official
notice has been received from the Bank of Poland that the program of
stabilization was legally promulgated on October 13th and official
notice from bankers of the Polish government that they have agreed to
issue a loan in the amount of

70,0O0,000, provided for in the program,

on October 18th,on which date will become affective, therefore, the
agreement of the Federal Reserve bank to purchase, if desired, up to
a total of„;5,250,000 of prime commercial bills from the Bank of Poland.
The above letters having been circulated among
the members Of the Board were noted.
Letter dated October 13th from the Assistant Federal Reserve
Agent at New York, telegram dated October 13th from the Chairman of
the Federal Aeserve Bank of Kansas City and telegram dated October
14th from the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, advising




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that the boards of directors at meetings on those dates made no change
ta the banks' existing schedules of rates of discount and purchase.
Noted, with approval.
Bond of Mr. Charles E. Gettemy, Assistant Federal Reserve Agent
at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, executed under date of October
10, 1927 in the amount of 450,000.
Approved.
Memorandum dated °ctober 17th from the Director of the Division
Of Research and Statistics, requesting authority to fill the vacancy
created by the resignation of Miss Demme Shumate, by the appointment of
Mr. Thomas B. Rhodes as Research Assistant in the Division, at a salary
Of 41,800 per annum, effective November 1, 1927.
Approved.
Matter approved on taitials.yesterday, namely, letter dated
October 15th from the Acting Comptroller of the Currency, recommending
approval of a salary of

5,000 per annum for National Bank Examiner

Ira J. Fulton, assigned to the Fourth Federal Reserve District.
Formally approved.
Report of Committee on Salaries and Expenditures on letter dated
October 11th from the Federal Reserve Agent at Kansas City, requesting
approval of the action of the Executive Committee of that bank in authorizing an Increase from 42,500 to 42,800 per annum, effective October
let,in the salary of Ur. Forest W. Alexander; the Board's Committee
recommending approval.




Approved.

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Report of Committee on Salaries and Expenditures on letter dated
October 14th from the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond,
requesting approval of extensions authorized by the board of directors
Of that bank in leaves of absence with pay, previously granted Mrs.
Albert Hankins, Jr., Miss T. Elizabeth Lucius and Mr. W. P. Tuel, employees of the bank and its 3altimore Branch; the Board's Committee recommending approval of the salary payments involved.
Approved.
Report of Committee on Salaries and Expenditures on letter dated
October 10th from the Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, requesting approval of the action of the board of directors of
that bank in voting to extend for a period of three months from October
let, with half pay, leave of absence on account of illness previously
granted Mr. Hans Flo, an employee of the Salt Lake City Branch; the
Board's Committee recommending approval of the salary payment involved.
Approved.
Report of Committee on Salaries and r;xpenditures on letter dated
October llth from the Deputy Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of
New Yotk, submitting for approval recommendations for promotions, effective October 1, 1927, in the grades of Messrs. John ,Jiley, John Lenz,
and John Reynolds, to positions where the grade is in excess of v2,500
Per annum, and advising also of certain positions abolished, certain
Changes in position and grade where no promotion is involved and of
the resignation of an employee whose salary was in excess of ,2,500
Per annum; the Board's Committee reporting that the promotions recommended




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are in accordance with the grade classification plan approved by the
Board on January 12, 1926 and recommending that they be approved.
- Approved.
Report of Committee on Examinations on letter dated October 13th
from the Chairman of the Federal Reserve 3ank of Richmond, recommending approval of an application of the Independence Trust Company of
Charlotte, N. C. for permission to open a branch in the Law Building
on East Trade Street, Charlotte; the Board's Committee also recommending approval.
Approved.
The Secretary then advised that Mr. Luke Lea, recently elected
Class B Director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta for the unexpired term of Mr. W. H. Hartford, deceased, ending December 31, 1928,
took oath of office on October 14th and he presented a report of the
Committee on District 46 dated October 14th, recommending the appointment of Ur. Lea as a director of the Nashville Branch for Mr. Hartford's
unexpired term.
Upon motion, Mr. Lea was appointed director
of the.Nashville Branch for the term ending December 31, 1928.
Letter dated October 13th from the Federal Reserve Agent at
Richmond, inquiring whether the expenses of Yr. H. W. Black, the Board's
Examiner who participated in the recent examination of the Farmers Bank
and Trust Company of Forest City, N. C., should be included in the bill
to be rendered against that bank covering expenses of the examination.
The Secretary reported that Mr. Black's transportation and subsistence




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expenses in connection with the examination amounted to

and

that his salary during the period he was engaged in the work amounted
to 406.30.
Upon motion, it was voted that the expense of
Mr. Black's salary should be absorbed by the Board
but that his transportation and subsistence expenses,
as reported by the Secretary, should be charged against
the member bank examined.
September
Memorandum dated October 7th from Counsel on letter dated
\ 21st from the Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, inquiring
as to the legal effect of the standard form of indorsement placed on
for rediscount
bankers acceptances by accepting banks to show eligibility
in accordance with the Board's regulations, in view of the recent decision
Of the Supreme Court of the State of Texas that similar language contained
in the standard form of indorsement heretofore used on trade acceptances
that the
renders such trade acceptances nonnegotiable; Counsel stating
rs' Conferquestion has been referred by Governor Talley to the Governo
to consider the
ence, and recommending that the Conference be requested
following suggestions:
to be
(1) That no change be made in the form of certificate
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shipmen
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used on acceptances covering domesti
nces
(2) That the form of certificate to be used on accepta
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be
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transac
covering import and export
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instrum
this
to
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transaction which gives
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tion)."
ment) to (place of destina
(3) That the certificate be eliminated entirely from the
other
faces of acceptances secured by warehouse, terminal or
cate
certifi
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form
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"This certifies that a certain bill drawn by (name of
dollars dated
drawer) on the undersigned for
and accepted by the undersigned, was secured
at the time of acceptance by independent warehouse, terminal,
or other similar receipt conveying security title to (name
of readily marketable staple) stored in (country where
stored) and that the acceptor will remain secured throughout
the life of the bill."
After discussion, it was voted that a copy of
Counsel's memorandum be forwarded to the Governors
of all Federal Reserve banks for their infarmation
in connection with their discussion of the subject
thereof at the forthcoming Conference.
The Governor then presented the matter ordered circulated at the meeting of the Executive Committee held on September 20th, namely, memorandum
dated September 8th from the Board's Assistant Counsel, with reference to
the power of the Board to withhold privileges of membership, including
the privilege of discounting eligible paper, from a member bank during
the time in which it is violating the provisions of the Federal Reserve
Act, the regulations of the Board, or the conditions of membership; Counsel
stating that the Board is clearly vested with a discretion as to whether
in case of violation of law or regulation by a State member bank, the
membership of that bank shall be forfeited, but that so long as a State
bank remains a member of the System it is entitled to all rights and
Privileges of such membership.
The above opinion, which was requested by Mr.
Gilbert, through the Board's Committee on Examinations, was noted with approval and ordered filed with
Mr. Gilbert for his information and guidance.
The Secretary then presented a memorandum fram Counsel dated October
6th, prepared at the request of the Governor, setting forth the past
hbtory of the Clayton Act case of Mr. J. E. Fishburn, who is now serving




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as director of the Merchants National Trust and Savings Bank of Los
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Angeles, the California Bank of Los Angeles, and the First National
Bank of Long Beach, under a permit granted by the Board in 1919 when
Mr. Plenum was serving the Merchants National Bank of Los Angeles,
the Home Savings Bank of Los Angeles, and the First National Bank of
Long Beach, the Home Savings Bank having consolidated under California
law with the California Bank, and the Merchants National Bank having
consolidated with the Hellman Co.nuorcial Trust and Savings Bank to form
the Merchants National Trust and Savings Bank of Los Angeles.
The Governor stated that the question which arises is
whether Mr. Fishburn's permit should be revoked because of the
evidence before the Board that the California Bank and the Merchants National Trust and Savings Bank are in substantial competition, or whether he shall be permitted to continue to serve
under the permit granted him in 1919, which remains in effect
unless revoked by the Board.
After discussion, Mr. Hamlin moved that the Federal
Reserve Agent at San Francisco be requested to advise the
Board whethor there is anything in Mr. Fishburn's present
interlocking directorates which so affects the public interest as to make advisable the revocation of the permit
previously granted him by the Board.
Carried.
The Governor then presented the following report dated September 1st
from the Board's Committee on Examinations:
"Acting as the Examination Committee of the Board, we have
gone over with Mr. Gilbert the proposed standard form of report
of examination designed for use by all Federal Reserve Agents
in conducting examinations of mumber banks of the Federal Reserve
System and the comparative set-up of the questions, instructions
and matters of the proposed form with those of the report form
used by the Comptroller of the Currency in the examination of
national banks, which the Board has instructed Mr. Gilbert to
prepare.
We have paid particular attention to the questions, instructions and matters of the proposed form for which there are no




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"corresponding questions, instructions or matters in the Comptroller's form. We have suggested a number of changes in the phraseology of several questions and instructions which have no complete
counterparts in the Comptroller's form which, Mr. Gilbert informs
us, have been made.
"Prom the statements made by Mr. Gilbert, we believe that
the proposed form in its present arrangement and scope should
receive the tentative approval of the Board with authority to
have it printed, upon the understanding that before it shall be
finally adopted and the Federal Reserve Agents instructed to use
it in their examination work, Messrs. Gilbert and Black be authorized to visit a Federal Reserve District and, using the proposed
form, assist the examining force of the Federal Reserve Agent in
making a number of examinations. With the experience and data
thus obtainable, it should be possible to ascertain whether the
additional information called for by the form can be assembled
at a cost in time and money commensurate with its value.
"It is suggested that after such a test is made and the making of any modifications that, in the light of the experience
gained, shall appear to be desirable, the Assistant Federal Reserve
Agents and/or other officers in charge of examinations, and the
Chief Examiners of all of the Twelve Federal Lieserve banks, be
called to Washington for a conference. With the proposed form
as a basis, it should be passible at such a meeting to reach an
agreement as to a form that will meet the requirements of all
districts and at the same time produce a desirable degree of uniformity in the scope and character of information relating to
condition of member banks required for the Board's purposes."
After discussion, Ur. James moved that the proposed
standard form of report of examination prepared by Mr.
Gilbert, be tentatively approved and printed, and further,
that Mr. Gilbert, and his assistant, Mr. Black, be authorized to visit the'Eighth Federal Reserve District for the
purpose of participating in independent examinations conducted by the Federal Reserve Agent at St. Louis, in which
examinations the proposed standard form of examination report shall be used.
Mr. James' motion, being put by the Chair,
was carried.
The Secretary then reported as to the present status of the work beconducted under Mr. Gilbert's supervision, and in connection with
analyses which are being made of reports of examination currently received,
he stated that he has detailed to assist Mr. Gilbert, Ur. George E. Good,




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formerly Chief Clerk of the Board.

He stated that he understood the

Work of current analyses was to continue, and if so, requested that the
Board approve of the definite transfer of Mr. Good to the work in which
he is now engaged, which transfer would not involve any change in compensation.
Upon motion, Mr. Good's transfer to examination
work was approved.
The Governor then presented the matter ordered circulated at the
meeting of the Executive Committee on September 20th, namely, memorandum
dated September 2nd from the Board's Assistant Counsel, answering certain
inquiries raised by Mr. Gilbert, the Board's Supervisor of Examinations,
With regard to the interpretation of Sections 5204, 5205 and 5209 of the
Revised Statutes of the United States, in connection with State member
banks which, throush losses or other withdrawals, have suffered impairments in their capital.
The Secretary read to the Board the opinion expressed by Counsel with respect to each question raised
by Mr. Gilbert, and upon motion, Counsel's memorandum
was noted with approval and ordered filed with Mr. Gilbert
for his information and guidance.
The Governor then presented letter datea October 11th from the ChairMan of the iederal Reserve Bank of Dallas, referring to certain recommendations made by the Governor of that bank at the meeting of the Board of
Directors on October 7th, and the action taken thereon by the directors,
relative to a change in the policy of the Dallas bank with respect to the
Purchase of bankers acceptances originating in the Eleventh Federal Reserve
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The Governor stated that each member of the Board had been furnished with a copy of Mr. Walsh's letter and an excerpt from the
minutes of the meeting of the Dallas directors, setting forth the
recommendations made by Governor Talley and action taken by the
directors of the bank in voting that hereafter, or as soon as practicable, it shall be the general policy of the bank to encourage the
accepting member banks in the Eleventh District to adopt the practice
Of selling their bills in the open market, rather than offering them
to the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas either directly or through
another member bank in the district; also that it shall be the general
policy of the bank, when purchasing bankers acceptances, to give preference, when practicable, to early maturing bills.
Discussion then ensued during which it was the consensus
of opinion that approval or disapproval of the change in
policy contemplated by the Dallas bank is not necessary as
the matter is one for determination by the directors of the
bank. The opinion was expressed, however, that it might not
be wise for the Dallas bank to make too abrupt a change in its
policy, and that it would be desirable before any change is
made for the Board to have an opportunity of discussing the
subject with the Governor and Chairman of the bank, who will
be in Washington at the end of the present month to attend
the Fall Conferences of Governors and Federal Reserve Agents.
Attention was called to the fact that the Chairman of
the Dallas bank, in his letter, requests an informal expression of the Board's views on the proposal, and the
matter of replying to his letter was referred to the Governor with power.
The Governor then submitted a memorandum from Counsel dated October 8th,
submitting correspondence with Counsel for the Federal Reserve Bank of
Richmond, with respect to the right of a Federal Reserve bank to charge
to the account of an insolvent member bank checks received by the Federal
Reserve bank for collection and transmitted to such member bank for payMent prior to insolvency; Counsel recommending that the subject be placed
Oh the program for the next Governors' Conference in order that discussion
Illay be had as to the advisability of making a test suit on this question
and of the practical problems involved in connection with the charging of




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checks to the accounts of drawee banks.
The Governor expressed the view that there are many
practical questions involved and recommended approval of
Counsel's suggestion that the matter be submitted to the
forthcoming Conference of Governors.
Upon motion, Counsel's suggestion was approved.
Letter dated October 13th from the Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank
Of Richmond, advising of a proposal made to that bank by the Mosier Safe
GqImPally, which is installing the vault for the new Baltimore Branch bank
building, to equip the two doors of the vault with plates made of "Donsteel",

at a special price of ,;4,000.
A discussion ensued, during which Mr. James moved
that the Board, having definitely approved contracts
amounting to .A88,652 for the construction of the Baltimore vault with standard commercial metals called for in
the specifications, advise the Governor of the Federal
Reserve Bank of Richmond that it sees no reason for reconsidering its former action.
Mr. James' motion was put by the Chair
and lost.
After further discussion, it was agreed that action
on the above matter be deferred in order to permit all
mmbers of the Board to give further consideration to
the matter.
The Governor then presented a letter dated October 15th from Deputy
Governor Kenzel of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, advising that a
tneeting of the Sub-Committee of the General Acceptance Committee will be
held in iew York on Friday, October 21st, and suggesting that as usual
Mr. dyatt, the Board's General Counsel, be authorized to attend the meeting.
Upon motion, attendance by Mr. Wyatt was
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Letter dated October 14th from Mr. Edgar 4. Freeman, Vice President and
Trust Officer of the Corn Exchange National Bank of Philadelphia, requesting
an opportunity to appear before the Board for a discussion of a proposed
amendment to Regulation F which would require National banks depositing
uninvested funds in other institutions to receive collateral security from
such depositories.
1Lfter discussion, it was voted to afford 1.1r.
Freeman a hearing on Thursday, October 20th.
The Governor then announced that at the suggestion of Yr. Hamlin,
he expects to go to Boston in order to attend a meeting of the board of
directors of that bank next dednesday, October 26th.

He also stated that

unless there is objection on the part of the Board he intends to visit
several of the other Federal Reserve banks in the near future in order to
become more thoroughly acquainted with the officers and directors of those
institutions.
-1. IgkaalLS OF STANDING COMITTEES:
Dated, October 15th,
18th,
Dated, October 12th,

Recommending changes in stock at Federal Reserve banks
as set forth in the Auxiliary Minute Book of this date.
Recommendations approved*
Recommending action on application for fiduciary powers
te Book of this date.
as set forth in the Auxiliary
Recommendation approve
The meeting adjourned at 12:

Secretary.
Approved: