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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYstem was held in Washington on Friday, October 10, 1941, at 10:30
a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Morrill, Secretary
Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman

The action stated with respect to each of the matters hereinafter referred to was taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System held on October 9, 1941, were approved unanimously.
Telegrams to Messrs. Sanford and Hays, Secretaries of the Federal Reserve Banks of New York and Cleveland, respectively, Mr. Leach,
President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, Messrs. Dillard,
Stewart, and Powell, Secretaries of the Federal Reserve Banks of
Chicago, St. Louis, and Minneapolis, respectively, Mr. Caldwell, Chairflari of the
Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, Mr. Gilbert, President
c)f the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, and Mr.
West, Vice President of
the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, stating that the Board ap131
'
°ves the establishment without change by the Federal Reserve Bank
°ft Kansas
City on October 4, by the Federal Reserve Bank of San FranCO on October 7, and by the Federal
Reserve Banks of New York,
Cleveland, Richmond, Chicago, St. Louis, Minneapolis, and Dallas on




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October 9, 1941, of the rates of discount and purchase in their ex'sting schedules.
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Hitt, First Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, reading as follows:
"The Board of Governors approves the change in the
Personnel classification plan of your Little Rock Branch
as requested in your letter of October 7, 1941."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the board of directors of the "Bank of Ste. Genevieve",
Ste.

Genevieve, Missouri, stating that, subject to conditions of mem,

berthiP numbered 1 to 3 contained in the Board's Regulation H, the Board
approves the bank's application for membership in the Federal
Reserve
System and for the appropriate amount of stock in the Federal Reserve
tank of St.
Louis.
Approved unanimously for transmission through the Federal Reserve Bank
of St. Louis.
Letter to Mr. Curtiss, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of
reading as follows:
"At the completion of the examination of the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, made as of August 15, 1941,
by the Board's examiners, a copy of the
report of examination was left for your information and that of the
dlrectors. A copy was also furnished President Young.
"The report does not appear to contain any matters
requiring further comment at this time. The Board will
appreciate advice, however, that the report has been
considered by the Board of Directors.
Any comments you
maY care to offer regarding discussions with respect to




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"the examination or as to action taken or to be taken as
a result of the examination will also be appreciated."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to the Presidents of all of the Federal Reserve Banks
reading as follows:
"Reg. W-92. A 24-month note for t650 secured by a
second mortgage on a house is not subject to Regulation
W if it is given by the purchaser to the seller as part
of the purchase price of the house; and the note may be
discounted by a bank under section 3(a)(2)(B). This
Would be true even if plumbing fixtures and other listed
articles had been incorporated in the house, because for
the purposes of Regulation V; the sale would be regarded
as the sale of a house and not as the sale of plumbing
fixtures.
"Similarly, the fact that a t1500 instalment loan
is secured by a second mortgage on a house that was purchased within 45 days and which at the time of purchase
contained plumbing fixtures or other listed articles previously installed, would not cause the loan to be subject
to section 5(a) as a loan secured by a 'listed article
Which has been purchased within 45 days'. The recent purchase is considered to be the purchase of a house rather
than the purchase of a listed article, and the case would
not be altered by the fact that the seller of the house
might have purchased and installed the listed article
only shortly before he sold the house and within 45 days
prior to the loan. On the other hand, section 5(a) would
apply if the mortgagor had owned the house for SOMB time
and had purchased and installed the listed articles within
45 days prior to the loan, since in such a case the mortgagor's recent purchase would be a purchase of a listed
article rather than the purchase of a house."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to the Presidents of all of the Federal Reserve Banks
l'eacling as follows:
"Reg. W-93. The classification 'room-unit air conditioners includes portable units of one horse power or
less."




Approved unanimously.

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Telegram to the Presidents of all of the Federal Reserve Banks
reading as follows:
"Reg. Vi-94. In the case of a home improvement that
is carried out as a single job totaling .",995, of which
t550 is for a furnace and other Group D items while !.445
1
is for Group E items, the question has been asked whether
a Registrant financing the entire job may divide the financing into P445 on an instalment basis subject to the
requirements of RegulationW and t550 on a single-payment
basis not subject to the regulation.
"This is a single transaction and may not be divided
by the Registrant in this manner."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Hays, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Cleveland, reading as follows:
"Your mire October 6. Both questions covered by W-54.
See also W-19 and W-28. Original lender could have renewed
Pre-September credit once on any terms which it would have
granted in good faith in the absence of the Regulation,
and the other lender is in no worse position."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to Mr. Stroud, First Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, reading as follows:
"Your wire referring to W-55. Regulation does not
limit price which dealer may charge for an automobile but
Prohibits extending credit in excess of two-thirds of
bona fide cash purchase price or of total of items 1 through
4, whichever is less. Therefore, in your example, credit
is limited to two-thirds of t900 even if dealer sells car
for higher price, and this limit cannot be met by
adding
Pack to price and increasing trade in allowance. Regarding
Your second question, effect of adding pack to finance
Charges would apparently be to transfer part of purchase
Price to finance charges and thus decrease amount of down
Payment below one-third of purchase price. We would appreciate being informed if it should appear that substantial avoidance is occurring by this method."




Approved unanimously.

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Letter to the Presidents of all of the Federal Reserve Banks
reading as follows:
"The Board has received a small amount of correspondence indicating possible violations of Regulation Viand
has no doubt that you have received a somewhat greater
amount of such correspondence. SOMB of the Federal Reserve Banks have asked for advice as to the policy that
Should be followed in dealing with such matters.
"It has been felt that the most important thing to
do at first was to get the purposes and provisions of
the executive order and of the regulation understood and
at the same time to bring about the correction of defects
in the regulation through amendment as soon as possible.
It has been only a little over a month since the regulation became effective and the trade and financial organizations generally have shown their desire to cooperate
With the Board and the Federal Reserve Banks to the best
of their ability. It seems very likely, therefore, that
most of the instances which appear to be violations have
occurred through inadvertence or through ignorance and
in the circumstances that they have been remarkably few.
"With these considerations in mind and recognizing
the fact that some at least of the Reserve Banks have been
Proceeding along these lines, the Board suggests that,
When instances of apparent violations of Regulation VT of
sufficient importance to warrant attention are brought to
the attention of a Reserve Bank, the matter be taken up
With the person involved, either orally or by letter as
may seem best, proceeding on the assumption that the apparent violation was the result of inadvertence or of misunderstanding as to the meaning of the provisions of the
regulation. It seems probable that in most cases this
Will result in satisfactory assurances being received that
there will be no repetition. If in any particular instance,
however, after every reasonable effort along these lines
haS been made, this result should not come about, and the
instance appears to warrant Board consideration, it will
be appreciated if you will give the Board all the facts in
detail with your suggestions, including the advice of your
counsel, as to the course of procedure that would seem to
be advisable.
"In your acknowledgment of this letter, any comments
that you may have to offer will be welcome."




Approved unanimously.

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Letter to Mr. Elmer J. Hertel, Manager of the Better Business
Bureau of Oakland, Inc., Oakland, California, reading as follows:
"Thank you very much for your letter of September 30,
addressed to Dr. Carl E. Parry, regarding false and misleading advertising of terms of instalment sales which,
if made, would violate the provisions of the Board's Regulation W.
"Your request that the regulation be amended to include the regulation of advertising of instalment credit
terms will be given consideration.
"In the meantime, the Board wishes to express its appreciation of your cooperation with the Federal Reserve
System in seeking to obtain compliance with the provisions
of Regulation W."
Approved unanimously, together with
a letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of
San Francisco transmitting copies of the
Board's correspondence with Mr. Hertel.
Mr. Clayton suggested that the Board authorize the payment of
the cost
of luncheon served in the Board's dining room today to Mr.
Albert M. Creighton, Defense Contract Coordinator, Boston.




Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

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Secretary.