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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System was held in Washington on Tuesday, October 10, 1939, at 2:15
P. In,
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
McKee
Davis
Draper

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
The action stated with respect to each of the matters hereinafter referred to was taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System held on October 7, 1939, were approved unanimously.
Letter dated October 9, 1939, to Mr. Young, President of the
Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, prepared in accordance with the action taken at the meeting of the Board on October 6, 1939, reading
as

follows:
"Mr. Davis has brought to the attention of the Board
Your letter of October 2, 1939, in regard to the payment
Of the traveling expenses of representatives of member
oanks in attending the annual stockholders' meeting at
the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston.
"'In view of the long established practice of your
Bank of paying such expenses, the relatively small amount
involved, and the feeling of your directors that the meeting is beneficial to the relations of the Federal Reserve
Bank with its member banks, the Board has decided to offer
no objection to the practice of your Bank of paying the
traveling expenses of one representative from each member




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"bank attending the annual stockholders' meeting of the
Bank, which it is understood from your letter is in accordance with your request. The general question of policy
involved in the Board's letter of December 8, 1938, is
being reviewed for the purpose of determining what should
be the position of the Board in these matters in future."
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated October 3, 1939, from Mr. Parry, Chief of the
Division of Security Loans, reading as follows:
"On October 31, 1938, the Board approved a recommendation that the Board sponsor jointly with the SEC, in connection with a proposed revision of the SEC's reporting
service, a preliminary Survey (to be conducted by the New
York Stock Exchange) of trading 'on margin' and 'for cash'
for a sample week in November. The principal purpose of
the survey, as stated by the Exchange with the approval
of the Board and the Commission, was
'to assist the authorities in deciding whether
collection currently of similar but less detailed reports would be of sufficient value to
justify the work involved -- and if so, in what
degree of detail, at what intervals, and by
what methods.'
"The Division of Security Loans, in collaboration
With the Trading and Exchange Division of the SEC, participated in formulating the plans for this survey, made
first-hand observations at the time of the survey on the
amount of work which it occasioned for the Exchange and
for the member firms, and has given careful study to the
returns.
"A partial summary of these returns was included in
'Current Comments' for February 7, 1939, and a detailed
summary of about 70 pages was subsequently prepared in the
SEC's Trading and Exchange Division. For the information
Of the Board, copies of both these documents accompany
this memorandum.
"The study of these data indicates quite clearly that
the collection of 'similar but less detailed reports' would
in fact be of substantial value both to the Commission and
the Board. The principal value to the Board would be to




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"provide actual information, which could be used to replace current conjecture, concerning (1) increase or decrease from time to time in the relative volumes of cash
trading and margin trading by the general public (which
were in the sample week, as measured in dollars, 36 per
cent in cash accounts and 64 per cent in margin accounts),
and (2) whether, in any advancing or declining market, the
preponderance of public buying or selling comes from margin traders or from cash traders (in the sample week,
when prices were declining, the margin traders bought on
balance about 370,000 shares while cash traders sold on
balance).
"In recognition of the value of these data, as found
by the Trading and Exchange Division of the SEC, the Commission has authorized that Division (provided the Board
will give a corresponding authorization to its Division
of Security Loans) to proceed jointly with us to negotiate
with the New York Stock Exchange for the purpose of reaching an agreement with the Exchange, if possible, to collect weekly such of the figures included in the survey as
may be agreed upon and to furnish them to the Commission
and to the Board. At the time of the survey, the officials of the Exchange were very cooperative, but it is
not known what attitude they would now take towards a proposal for regular weekly reports.
"The selection of items to be collected, which is
one of the matters to be negotiated with the Exchange,
would be determined partly with a view to the needs of
the Commission and the Board and partly with a view to
minimizing the amount of work members of the Exchange
would have to do. It now seems, from the study given
to the matter by the SEC and by ourselves, that reports
containing as few as four captions and possibly as few
as two would serve the purpose (see for illustration attached forms, of which Form A is somewhat more detailed
than Form B, which have figures for the sample week inserted in ink).
"The Board is accordingly requested to authorize the
Division of Security Loans to participate with representatives of the SEC in the proposed negotiations, the results
to be reported back to the Board."




The recommendation was approved
unanimously.

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Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary.

APProved:




Chairman.

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