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Minutes for November 7, 1960

To:

Members of the Board

From: Office of the Secretary

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial below.
If you were present at the meeting, your initials will
indicate approval of the minutes. If you were not present,
your initials will indicate only that you have seen the
minutes.




Chin. Martin
Gov. Szymczak
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
on Monday, November
PRESENT:

7, 1960. The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
King
Sherman, Secretary
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Thomas, Adviser to the Board
Young, Adviser to the Board
Shay, Legislative Counsel
Molony, Assistant to the Board
Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Noyes, Director, Division of Research
and Statistics
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Hexter, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Furth, Associate Adviser, Division of
International Finance
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Transactions in gold

(Item No. 1).

On October 31, 1960, the

Board gave consideration to a memorandum from Mr. Marget, Director of
the Division of International Finance, concerning a letter he had received
under date of October 26, 1960, in which Vice President Sanford of the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported inquiries from commercial banks
as to whether the joint statement of the Secretary of the Treasury and
the Board of Governors dated July 18, 1947, on international traffic in
gold was still in effect.

It was indicated that Mt. Marget and Mt. Furth

agreed generally with the type of response proposed to be made to such
inquiries, which would be to the effect that under present circumstances




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banks should refrain from facilitating or financing transactions in gold
at premium prices, and Mr. Marget was authorized to discuss the matter
With the Treasury.
In a memorandum dated November

4, 1960, which had been distributed

to the Board, Mr. Marget reported that the Treasury had taken the position
that inquiries might be answered along the lines that "the United States
Treasury looks with disfavor on any activities that would encourage or
facilitate the buying and selling of gold outside the United States by
United States citizens, residents, or enterprises.

This includes the

extension of bank facilities or funds for such transactions.

The Treasury

believes that such activities are not in the national interest since they
facilitate speculation against the gold value of the dollar."

The

Treasury had suggested that this position be transmitted to the Federal
Reserve Banks as informally as possible.

Accordingly, Mr. Marget recom-

mended that he be authorized to send to Mr. Sanford a letter stating the
Treasury position, and that copies of the letter be sent to the other
Reserve Banks.
In commenting on the matter, Mr. Furth reported that shortly
before this meeting the Treasury had agreed to deletion of the words
"since they facilitate speculation against the gold value of the dollar"
from the final sentence of the statement setting forth the Treasury's
position.

He indicated that this deletion was favored by the Board's staff,

adding that after the deletion of the words in question the statement




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would not refer specifically to transactions in gold at premium prices
or to the financing of such transactions by banks.

Instead, the statement

would now indicate simply that the Treasury was of the opinion that the
buying and selling of gold outside the United States, although permitted
by Treasury regulations, was not in the national interest and should not
be encouraged or facilitated.
Mr. Furth also stated that the Treasury was giving consideration
to amending the gold regulations so as to place the buying and selling
of gold outside the United States under license.

However, the Board's

staff was of the opinion that such an amendment would not be advisable
because it would not be enforceable and because any change in the gold
regulations at this particular time might have adverse psychological
consequences.

The United States Executive Director of the International

Monetary Fund was reported to share the views of the Board's staff.
After further comments by Mr. Furth, a suggestion was made for
a change in the proposed letter from Mr. Marget to Mr. Sanford which would
make it clear that the suggested reply by Reserve Banks to inquiries from
commercial banks reflected the view of Treasury officials.

In response

to a question as to the manner in which it was contemplated that replies
to such inquiries would be made, Mr. Furth indicated that although the
Reserve Banks might choose to relate the Treasury position to inquiring
banks informally, no objection would be seen to furnishing the text of
the Treasury position in writing.




In fact, a reply by letter would have

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the advantage of avoiding any possible misunderstanding.

In any event,

Mr. Furth noted, the substance of the Treasury position probably would
appear in the press within a short time after the Reserve Banks replied
to the inquiries already received or other such inquiries, no matter
whether replies were made orally or in writing.
The Board then authorized the sending of a letter to Vice President Sanford, over the signature of Mr. Marget, in the form attached as
Item No. 1, with the understanding that copies of the letter would be
sent to all Federal Reserve Banks.
Messrs. Thomas, Young, Shay, Molony, Noyes, and Furth then with-

drew.
Regulations relating to branches of Federal Reserve Banks.

As

the result of a question raised at a meeting of the Board in December
1959, the suggestion was made that the Board's regulations relating to
branches of Federal Reserve Banks might be amended to provide that the
Board shall not appoint as a branch director any person who, at the time
he assumPs such office, is a director of a bank.

The language of the

regulations pertinent to this matter provided that "the directors appointed
by the Board of Governors shall be persons who are actively engaged in
commerce, agriculture, some other industrial pursuit, or the practice of
a profession, who are not primarily engaged in banking and preferably
are not directors of banks, although they may be stockholders."




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-5A memorandum from Messrs. Sherman, Secretary of the Board, and

llackley, General Counsel, dated November 4, 1960, which had been distributed
to the members of the Board

pointed out that this matter had been considered

by the Board from time to time in past years and involved entirely a
question of policy.

It was further pointed out that in practice the Board

had not for many years appointed as branch directors persons who were
directors of commercial banks.

However, the Board occasionally had permitted

a branch director to complete his term even though he had accepted a
commercial bank directorship while serving as a branch director.

The memo-

randum suggested that the purpose of giving notice that the Board would
not appoint persons who were commercial bank directors when they assumed
their duties as branch directors could be accomplished by amending
section 3(b) of the branch regulations so as to provide that no person
would be appointed by the Board of Governors as a branch director if he
was primarily engaged in banking or, if such person was a director of any
bank, unless he agreed to resign as such a director before taking office
as a Federal Reserve Bank branch director.

To this there might also be

added that "any director appointed by the Board of Governors who, during
his term of office, becomes a director of any bank shall promptly resign
as a director of the Federal Reserve Bank branch unless the Board grants
Permission for him to serve as such until the expiration of his term."
The memorandum noted that even if the branch regulations were
thus amended there would still be no prohibition against a Board-appointed




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branch director owning stock in a bank.

Although not legally necessary,

the branch regulations could be changed, if the Board so desired, to
place Board-appointed branch directors on the same qualification basis
as Class C directors, who are prohibited by law from being stockholders
of banks.
In response to a question raised by Governor Robertson regarding
the reasons for distinguishing between Board-appointed branch directors
and Class C directors in respect to the holding of bank stock by such
persons, reference was made to the fact that branch directors do not
participate in the formulation of Federal Reserve policy and to the
additional complication that would be involved in obtaining persons to
serve as branch directors if they were required to dispose of holdings
of bank stock.
Governor Mills commented to the effect that the question was one
of choosing between the rigid rules of qualification and rules that would
permit the Board of Governors more flexibility in its general approach.
As he recalled, no serious embarrassment had been involved in dealing
on a case-by-case basis with questions that had arisen when branch
directors accepted directorships of commercial banks.
There followed discussion of cases that had arisen over the years
With respect to the appointment of branch directors and to their continuing
to serve as such if they became directors of commercial banks.

It was

Pointed out that in the latter respect amendment of the branch regulations




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in the manner suggested in the memorandum from Messrs. Sherman and Hackley
was intended to give the Board some leeway to permit a branch director
to finish his term of office.

The suggestion was made on the other hand

that the language of such a regulation might be read to imply that the
Board was going to follow a general practice of permitting a branch
director to complete his term of office as such if he became a director
of a commercial bank and that deletion of the final clause of the proposed
amendment nevertheless would appear to allow the Board to deal with such
questions on a case-by-case basis.
After further discussion, Chairman Martin suggested that, in all
the circumstances, it might be preferable to leave the pertinent provisions
of the branch regulations in their present form, and agreement was expressed
With this suggestion.

The meeting then adjourned.




Governor Shepardson today approved on behalf
of the Board a memorandum dated November 7,
1960, from Mr. Kelleher, Director, Division
of Administrative Services, recommending that
the Board purchase and install five seat belts
for each of its cars and station wagons.

Secretary

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

Item No. 1
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ADONICIO OffICIAL COPIRILOPONDENCC
TO THC SWARD

November 7, 1960.

Mr. H. L. Sanford,
Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of New "I'm*,
New York 45, New York.
Dear Horace:
In your letter of October 26, 1960, you reported that a
number of banks had inquired about the attitude currently taken by
the United States monetary authorities regarding the facilitating
or financing of transactions in gold at premium prices.
Treasury officials, with whom I have consulted, suggest
that you answer such inquiries as follows:
"The United States Treasury looks with disfavor
on any activities that would encourage or facilitate the buying and selling of gold outside the
United States by United States citizens, residents,
or enterprises. This includes the extension of
banking facilities or funds for such transactions.
The Treasury believes that such activities are not
in the national• interest."
A copy of this letter is being sent to the other Federal
Reserve Banks.




Sincerely

yours,

Arthur W. Marget,
Director,
Division of International Finance.