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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYstem was held in Washington on Thursday, November 6, 1941, at 11:30

PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Morrill, Secretary
Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman

The action stated with respect to each of the matters herein—

after referred
to was taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Pea
Reserve System held on November 5, 1941, were approved unani—
M001%
Memorandum dated November 4, 1941, from Mr. Goldenweiser, Di—
or of the
Division of Research and Statistics, recommending that
kiss if
-Lary Louise Hamm be appointed as a clerk—stenographer in that
°Ion on a temporary basis for a period of not to exceed three
Months, with salary
at the rate of $1,440 per annum, effective as
of
the date
upon which she enters upon the performance of her duties
4fter having
passed satisfactorily the usual physical examination, and
that
'Inasmuch as she will probably be recommended for permanent ap130irltrilent if her services prove to be satisfactory, she now be per—
Illitteci to become a member
of the retirement system.
t4ted that
Miss H




The memorandum

is 18 years of age, is a graduate of high school,

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and has had approximately four months' experience in stenograp
hic work.
The position was taken that the Board
should not approve a salary at the rate of
1,440 per annum for employees with the
limited training and experience indicated
in Miss Hamm's case, but that an entrEnce
salary at the rate of $1,260 per annum
would be justified and that in such a case
the position should be classified accordingly.
Thereupon, the temporary appointment
of Miss Hamm was approved as recommended
by Mr. Goldenweiser, except that her entrance salary was fixed at t1,260 instead
of n.,440 per annum.
Letter to Mr. Evans, Vice President and Secretary of the Federal
Reserve Bank of
Dallas, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of October 23, 1941,
and its enclosure, concernin
g the termination of affiliate relationships between certain organizations and The
First State Bank of Taft, Taft, Texas.
"The information submitted indicates that Cage Hardware & Furniture Company,
Cage Implement Company, Inc.,
C. Oil Company, L. A. Cage Production Company, Cage
Drilling Company, Inc.,
and Palm-Meadow Oil Company are
notnow affiliates of The First State Bank of Taft, and,
in
accordance with your recommendation, the Board will
not insist
upon the publication of reports of any of such
'
rganizations as of September 24, 1941, the last call
date.”
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. T. W. McCoy, President of The Merchants National
13arilt a-,
"Q Trust Company, Vicksburg, Mississippi, reading
as follows:
to "This will acknowledge receipt of your letter of Ocber 28, in which you inquire whether the Board is
likely
to
de take
. some action in regard to interest rates on savings
Posits toward the end of the year.




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"It is not possible to give a categorical answer
to your question without committing the Board in advance
to a course of action during the next two months. No
such commitment can be made by the Board, which must be
free to take action from time to time in the light of developments as they arise. It may be stated, however,
that no change in the maximum permissible interest rate
on time and savings deposits is at present under consideration by the Board, and that it is not likely that action in the matter will be taken this year."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Vest, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Rn-

rrancisco, reading as follows:

"Reference is made to your letter of September 19,
enclosing correspondence regarding Regulation T with Mr.
Edwin McWilliams, Secretary, District No. 2, National Association
of Securities Dealers, Inc.
"In the Board's opinion, X acted as a 'broker' (and
also a 'creditor') in purchasing the bonds for A's account
:and as a 'dealer' (and also a 'creditor') in buying the
bonds from B. He was subject to the provisions of section
4(c)(1) and (2) of Regulation T. He did not, however, cornPly with
those provisions in purchasing the bonds for A's
account, because there was no agreement that the customer
would promptly make full cash payment for the bonds.
"Had X not purchased the bonds from B, but had proceeded in the manner described as 'a somewhat different
method', he
would have acted as a 'broker' (and also a
creditor') throughout,
would have been subject to the
vlsions of section 4(c)(1) and (2), and would have
led to
provisions because there was
no agree comply with those
agreement that A would promptly make full cash payment
ws that B would promptly deposit the securities in the account.
It
"There is no exception to the provisions of section
42*c)
. . for cases involving a 'buyer's option' or 'seller's
tricn'. On the other hand, there is no prohibition against
_Li e use of such options if the transactions otherwise meet
'Ile requirements of the regulation.
heipf. In connection with these questions you may find it
to refer to the ruling in the 1940 Federal Reserve

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"Bulletin at page 1172 (Loose Leaf Service #7964.2)."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mrs.j. T. Bowlby of Bowlby's Music House, Rock
Island, Illinois, reading as follows:
"Your letter of October 4, addressed to the Collector of Internal Revenue, has recently been referred to
the Board of Governors. Your inquiry is whether RegulationW applies to the type of agreement described in
Your letter, under which you sell a musical education
course to parents of children covering a period of 60
to 70 weeks,
during which time you loan the child an
instrument and if the child completes the course, the
child is given either that instrument or another one,
depending upon the
condition of the instrument. The
Parent can discontinue the course at any time by notifying
YOU and returning the instrument, but the parent acquires
n° equity in the instrument and you have no discount agreement whereby the course can be cancelled and the instrument retained by the student upon payment of any certain
sum of money. You say that for your own records, you
set up a card showing the instrument as being in the possession of the child, the net cost of the instrument being charged to the student.
two I"There are enclosed copies of Regulation W and of
nterpretations (W-52 and W-68) issued by the Board
of Governors. It
would appear from your letter that the
!:Freement is similar to that described in W-68 in that
the money
paid by the parent covers lessons and various
3-milar services as well as the cost of the instrument.
Therefore if the
8
instrument is of a kind listed in the
0,
113Plement to the Regulation, it would be necessary to
but"n a deposit equal to the down payment which would
e required on the sale of the instrument and to require
P?.Yments which would pay off the balance of the price in
elghteen months,
as described in 17-52.
.
'The
18
months
maturity permitted by the Regulation
ls
than
the
60
to 70 weeks which you mention as
longerh usual
length of your course. The down payment reet
form
'musical instruments composed principally of
thee-Ls' (item 11 in Group C of the Supplement) is 20% of
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"minimum monthly payment provision which was contained
in section 4(f) of the Regulation, and which was to
have
become effective January 1, 1942) has been eliminated from
the Regulation, and the Regulation, after Decem
ber 1,
1941, will permit the seller to disregard the down payment requirement if the down payment would be 2 or
less.
"The administration of Regulation W has been decentralized and, therefore, it is suggested that any further
inquiries which you may have regarding it be addressed to
the Federal Reserve Bank
of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Ben Stern, President of the Stern Finance ComPanY, Des
Moines, Iowa, reading as follows:
"As you have been advised, your letter of October
27, addressed to Mr. Galbraith, Assis
tant Administrator,
9ffice of Price Administration and Civilian Supply, has
been referred to
the Board of Governors.
"Mr. Galbraith forwarded you a copy of Amendment No.
2 which contains the provision regar
ding 'Farmer Plans'
to Which
you refer. As you will have noted, Amendment
O. 2 makes
a number of changes in Regulation 17, and it
was thought desirable to postp
one the effective date of
a11 of the changes until December 1, not only in order
to give
all persons affected a reasonable opportunity of
udYing the changes and preparing to adapt their practices
to them,
but also to avoid confusion and the danger that
some
persons might be availing themselves of the new prowhile others who had not yet been advised were
'lot in a position
to do so.
"The administration of Regulation 1'v has been decentralized and
therefore it is suggested that any further
21qulries which you may have regarding it be addressed
to the
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois."

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Approved unanimously.
Mr. Paulger suggested that the Board authorize the
payment of
the cost of
luncheons served in the Board's dining room today to Messrs.

4.17'n
sArcl p

rope, E. C. Gruen, and W. W. Schneckenburger,
Director, Vice




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Pr
esident and Treasurer, and Vice President, respectively, of the Marine
Trust
Company, Buffalo, New York.
Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

4PProved:




Chairman.