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Minutes for November

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

5, 1963

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the Board of Governors
of the Federal Reserve System on the above date.
It is proposed to place in the record of policy actions
required to be kept under the provisions of section 10 of the
Federal Reserve Act an entry covering the item in this set of
minutes commencing on the page and dealing with the subject
referred to below:

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Increase in margin and retention requirements.

Should you have any question with regard to the minutes,
it will be appreciated if you will advise the Secretary's Office.
Otherwise, please initial below. If you were present at the
meeting, your initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
you were not present, your initials will indicate only that you
have seen the minutes.
Chairman Martin
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. Mitchell

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Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System on Tuesday, November

5,

1963.

The Board met in the Board Room

at 10:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Mitchell
Sherman, Secretary
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Molony, Assistant to the Board
Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Hackley, General Counsel
Farrell, Director, Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Hexter, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Shay, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Brill, Adviser, Division of Research
and Statistics
Mr. Holland, Adviser, Division of Research
and Statistics
Mr. Conkling, Assistant Director, Division
of Bank Operations
Mr. Kiley, Assistant Director, Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Smith, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division
of Examinations
Mrs. Semia, Technical Assistant, Office of
the Secretary
Miss Hart, Senior Attorney, Legal Division
Mr. Young, Senior Attorney, Legal Division
Mr. Partee, Chief, Capital Markets Section,
Division of Research and Statistics
Mr. Collier, Chief, Current Series Section,
Division of Bank Operations
Mr. Sanford, Review Examiner, Division of
Examinations

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

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-2Application of Wachovia Bank and Trust Company.

There had

been distributed a memorandum dated October 23, 1963, from the Division
of Examinations and other pertinent papers regarding the application of
Wachovia Bank and Trust Company, Winston-Salem, North Carolina, for
consent to merge with The Bank of Randolph, Asheboro, North Carolina.
The memorandum brought out that Bank of Randolph was not aggressive,
discouraging time and savings deposits by paying only 1 per cent
interest, and having no instalment loans as such.

The leading figure

in management since the organization of the bank in 1897 was the
Chairman, who was now

88 years old and had suffered a stroke. An

adequate successor was not available within the bank, and efforts to
Obtain one would be complicated by the fact that the merger proposal
had become public knowledge.

The bank had had a close correspondent

relationship with Wachovia for more than 60 years.

Some local in-

dustries with credit needs in excess of Bank of Randolph's loan limit
had apparently come to feel they could not in all foreseeable circumstances rely on the bank's ability to place those over-line credits
with other banks, and therefore were developing connections with
larger banks outside the area.

On balancing all of the circumstances

relating to the factors cited for consideration by the Bank Merger Act,
including the fact that approval would result in a slight increase in
Wachovia's percentage of the total banking offices and deposits in the
State, the Division of Examinations recommended approval of the
aPplication.

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There had also been distributed a memorandum dated October 29,
1963, from the Legal Division commenting that, while it was impossible
to predict that a decision of approval would be reversed in the courts,
the case was one of several recently before the Board in which was
Sharply presented the issue as to the degree to which an acquisition
Should be considered anti-competitive when it would result in a relatively slight percentage addition to the size of one of a few large
banks already dominating banking in a given market area.

The three

largest banks in North Carolina (including Wachovia), with nearly
half the total deposits in the State, already held more than 80 per
cent of total deposits in the eight-county industrial core where Asheboro
lras located.

While the big three were about equally balanced there and

competition among them would probably not be affected adversely by
approval, anti-competitive effects could result from removal of an independent, alternative source of banking services for the small-toMedium sized customer and potential adverse effects on the remaining
independent local banks, particularly the only other independent
Asheboro bank.

In July 1961 the Division of Examinations had recom-

Mended that the Board disapprove a merger between Wachovia and First
Rational Bank of Thomasville, an $11 million bank located in Davidson
County, adjacent to Randolph County, and part of the same eight-county
41'ea.

The essential basis for the adverse recommendation was "the

situation in North Carolina, perhaps best characterized as a tendency
toward oligopoly."

In the Board's discussion, which led to a decision

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Of approval, the members of the Board had indicated that they did not
feel the time had yet arrived to draw a line restraining further expansion by Wachovia.
At the Board's invitation, Mr. Leavitt summarized the application and compared it with the application by Wachovia to acquire First
National Bank of Thomasville, following which Mr. Solomon also commented
on the Thomasville application.

Whereas the Division of Examinations

had recommended denial of that application, here it had recommended
aPProval„ partly because the Division felt there was much to be said
for following a consistent policy on similar cases unless there was
good reason to the contrary.

The instant application seemed to present

a stronger case for approval than the Thomasville application.

There

as more competition between the two institutions involved in the
Thomasville case, the local bank was a better institution, and the bank
l'emaining in Thomasville was weaker than the independent bank that
Mould remain in Asheboro.

Moreover, it was possible to focus a better

light in the present application by looking at the industrial complex
c't North Carolina, in which complex the other large banks in the State
'Were fully as well represented as Wachovia.

The Bank of Randolph was

relatively small, and--as in the case of any small business--manageand ownership must be harmoniously combined for the business to
endure.

If Wachovia did not take over the Bank of Randolph, some other

baak probably would.

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-5The Legal Division then presented further observations on the

question of the degree of concentration of banking resources in any
given area that would seem to call for restrictive action by the Board
under the Bank Merger Act, after which the members of the Board expressed their views.
the
Governor Mills stated that he would deny the application,
a local
analysis of which he believed to require both a State-wide and
determination.

Looking at the State-wide situation, the degree of con-

seem to
centration of banking resources among the larger banks did not
Place any one or any group of them in complete dominance.

However,

Wsohovia was well-entrenched in this particular smaller area of the
State, and its absorption of Bank of Randolph would further enhance
.
its importance in the most industrialized area of North Carolina

It

did not appear to him appropriate to draw a parallel with the Thomasville situation.

Although there might be some general similarity

circumstances or
between the two cases, there was not an identity of
justify considering
anything approaching it that would, in his opinion,
ed with a
the Thomasville case as a precedent. The Board was confront
Randolph and the transfer
decision whether the absorption of Bank of
of
of its assets to Wachovia would be contrary to the spirit and letter
the Bank Merger Act; he believed that it would, and that this was a
Point at which to draw the line.

As he understood the laws of North

applying for de
Carolina, none of its large banks was precluded from
novo branches in Asheboro or in the industrial complex.

The management

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problem in Bank of Randolph was distressing, but certainly it had been
foreseeable, and the bank should have taken steps to cope with it many
Years ago.

Also, Bank of Randolph, through the loyalty of its customers,

had attracted substantial business accounts.

A $9 million bank might be

considered a small bank, but that was a relative judgment.

The size of

the bank had to be compared to the size of the community in which it
oPerated, and in Governor Mills' view a $9 million bank in Asheboro was
an institution of such importance to the community that it would be
regrettable to have its competitive capacity removed.
Governor Mills noted that representatives of Wachovia had met
41-th the Board's staff to discuss the Asheboro application, as had
'
representatives of Union Trust Company of Maryland in regard to another
merger application scheduled for consideration today, which raised a
question, relating to merger applications in general, to which he did

not

have the answer; namely, whether applications should not be analyzed

On the basis of the formal submissions to the Board and free from the
Color that came from personal presentations by interested parties.

It

seemed deserving of consideration whether such consultations tended to
make the Board's staff advocates or opponents of the applications.
Mr. Hackley commented that the problem brought up by Governor
Mills did involve a risk of swaying staff judgment, yet in many instances
the staff had been consulted by representatives of merger applicants
to good purpose in that the information in the application itself was
thus expanded.

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-7Mr. Solomon agreed that there was some risk in such consulta-

tions and said the staff had been careful, if a hearing had been ordered
regarding a case, or if opponents had asked for a consultation, not to
entertain visits from representatives of one side without also seeing
representatives of the other.

The assumption had been that it would

seem harsh and stand-offish on the part of the Board's staff to say
that interested Persons could not come in to present their views in a
n°nadversary situation.

In each of the cases on today's agenda, before

rePresentatives of the applicants had visited the Board's offices, the
Staff had made its review and determined upon a recommendation, and
therefore
the position the Division took was not influenced by the consUltations.

The visitors, of course, did not know this.

Refusal by

the Board's staff to allow such consultations would be misunderstood,
he felt, and it seemed doubtful that any Government agency would be so
strict as to refuse.
Governor Robertson stated that he had sympathy with the position of the Division of Examinations in regard to consistency of
decisions.
think

As to receiving representatives of applicants, he did not

it could be avoided, and the Board must rely on the staff to

4'rive at objective recommendations.

As to the Wachovia-Randolph

application, he agreed with Governor Mills.

This was one of the few

eltses coming before the Board on which the competitive factor reports
from the other supervisory agencies had been unanimous (in this case,
aaverse).

The management factor at Bank of Randolph did loom large,

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but he thought it was a mistake to consider merger the only remedy for
that problem.

Approval of the application would result in furtherance

of concentration in the largest bank in the State and would cause the
remaining small bank in Asheboro to face competition from the largest
bank in the State.

On those grounds, he would deny the application.

Governor Shepardson commented that certainly the degree of
banking concentration was a significant element in this case; the
largest bank in the State would take over a little more of the market.
However, it seemed to him that on all other points the arguments
weighed for approval.

As to the matter of management at Bank of Ran-

dolph, it was easy to say that someone should have foreseen the problem,
but the lack of advance measures was not surprising in such a closelyheld bank.

There seemed to be a real problem as to whether the Board

should say that these people had to stay in business.

As to the

Position of the other independent bank in Asheboro, the Board had seen
IllanY instances in which small banks that wanted to continue to operate
haa thrived and prospered with customers who preferred to deal with a
local bank even when it was in competition with a large bank that could
(3ffer wider services.

According to the available evidence, Wachovia

l'as not a predatory bank that would make it unduly difficult for the
remaining local bank in Asheboro to survive.

The services rendered to

the community by Bank of Randolph had been inadequate, judging from
the reports; it had not been aggressive.

Wachovia had been the leader

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in the industrial development of an agricultural State over a period
Of time, and had conducted a constructive program.

In summary, it

seemed to Governor Shepardson that the fact that Bank of Randolph had
not kept pace with the community's needs, the lack of competition
between that bank and Wachovia, the relationship that had existed
between them, and the management situation in Bank of Randolph clearly
oUtweighed the adverse factor of further concentration that would result from the merger.

In his opinion, this was not an appropriate

case in which to call a halt to Wachovia's expansion.
Governor Mitchell remarked that, on the general issue of whether
the Board's staff should confer with representatives of applicants, it
might be embarrassing if the staff should change its stand after such
a conference.

He agreed with Governor Robertson that such discussions

could not very well be avoided, but there was a time to talk and a time
not to talk, and it could be argued that any such conferences preferably
should be held prior to the time the staff had formulated its recommendation.
As to the present application, in Governor Mitchell's view it
1f48 not a bank that was being merged, only a receiving station; the
lt1ternal difficulty was not a matter of management but of ownership.
Re would have preferred that a smaller bank than Wachovia come along
t° Provide the opportunity for a change in ownership, but in the absence
°f that, it was necessary to take the opportunity that did present itself.

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The Bank of Randolph's services to the community had been relatively
Poor.

The situation suggested that this was a deficit area so far as

loans were concerned, for which existing management and ownership must
bear the blame.

It was true that Wachovia could enter Asheboro through

de novo branching, but that would probably require the dismemberment
Of Bank of Randolph.

He did not see that it was necessary to follow

this route, at considerable expense to Wachovia.

Wachovia had a fine

reputation and would do the Asheboro community a real service.
Governor Balderston stated that he would approve.

Wachovia in

the last decade had gained $140 million of deposits through 8 mergers,
bilt that gain renresented only 21 per cent of Wachovia's present total
dsPosits.

The bank's two principal rivals had been gaining at a much

faster pace through the merger route.
Randolph wanted to sell.

The family ownership of Bank of

As had been Observed, the situation ought not

have been allowed to drift as long as it had without a replacement for
the top executive, but saying this did not solve the existing problem.

On balance, he agreed with the Division of Examinations that in this
ease the management factor was more significant than the competitive
factor.
Chairman Martin stated that he also would approve.

He agreed

'
lItth the Division's analysis, and thought that denial would only result

in a scraMble, from which the public would suffer, to negotiate some
Other merger for Bank of Randolph.

Wachovia had a good reputation of

1°11g standing, and had nursed Bank of Randolph along for a long time.

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With the dominating officer of the small bank now at the end of his
career, it did not seem that Wachovia should be deprived of the opportunity to take over the institution.
The application of Wachovia Bank and Trust Company to merge
"11th The Bank of Randolph was thereupon approved, Governors Mills and
Robertson dissenting.

It was understood that an order and statement

reflecting this decision would be prepared for the Board's consideration, and that a dissenting statement or statements of Governors Mills
and Robertson also would be prepared.
Mr. Noyes, Director, Division of Research and Statistics,
entered the room at this point.
Application of Union Trust Company of Maryland.

There had been

distributed a memorandum dated October 29, 1963, from the Division of
Rxaminations and other pertinent papers regarding the application of
Union Trust Company of Maryland, Baltimore, Maryland, for consent to
rnerge with The Farmers National Bank of Annapolis, Annapolis, Maryland.
The Division recommended that the application be approved.
There had also been distributed a memorandum dated November 4,
1963/ in which, after commenting on various aspects of the application,

the Legal Division stated its conclusion that there appeared to be
n°thing in the record to counterbalance the adverse competitive effects
c)f the proposed merger - the loss of one of the two independent banks
14 Annapolis, the further concentration of banking resources in the

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State and the Baltimore-Annapolis area, and the elimination of the
competition, although relatively small, presently existing between the
two institutions.
At the Board's invitation, Mr. Leavitt summarized the principal
facts involved in the application, basing his remarks primarily on the
Division of Examinations' October 29 memorandum.

He noted that the

Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond had at first recommended that the
application be denied, but subsequently reversed that recommendation
after receiving supplemental information from Union Trust.

He drew

analogies between the present application and others, especially that
of Union Trust Company to merge with The Kingsville Bank, Kingsville,
Maryland, which the Board approved in 1962 although the Division had
recommended denial.

In conclusion, he stated that although the Divi-

sion regarded the Annapolis application as marginal, it felt that the
the
Public would not be adversely affected by approval of it, and that
ready and
Property rights of the Annapolis group, who apparently were
to go out of business, should be considered.
Legal Division
Mr. Shay then outlined the circumstances the
had weighed in preparing its memorandum, after which members of the
Staff responded to several questions asked by members of the Board.
Governor Mills stated that he would deny the application.

This

Ilas not to say that the absorption of the Annapolis bank would seriously
reduce competition in the general area, because that area could be regarded as including the entire Washington-Baltimore complex, in which

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there were a variety of available banking facilities at no great
distance from Annapolis.

However, the City of Annapolis, which was

a substantial community and the capital of the State, seemed to present
Farmers National was a fair-sized bank that had

a special situation.

proved to be self-sufficient, and the fact that the management had
sought a merger need not be a controlling circumstance.

The share-

holders of a bank had responsibility for the decision whether or not
the institution was to continue as an independent bank, and they were

not relieved of that responsibility because the management wanted to
Merge.

He was more and more concerned about drawing comparisons

between mergers in different areas, but if comparisons need be made,
it seemed to him that the pertinent ones were with the three Wisconsin
holding company cases denied by the Board earlier this year, where the
/30ard's position had taken account of the fact that the banks proposed
to be acquired were fully capable of continuing to conduct business on
an independent basis.
Governor Robertson said that he also would deny the application.
The adverse competitive aspects were not offset by the banking factors,
and he regarded as irrelevant the desire of the management of Farmers
National to merge.

He observed that it had been mentioned that if the

130ard denied this application, some other, perhaps even a less desirable, merger might be negotiated by Farmers National, with the superdecision not falling within the Board's jurisdiction.

This did

not alter his judgment as to what the Board's decision should be.

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-14Governor Shepardson commented that there did not seem to be

present here the same arguments for approval as in the Wachovia case.
He did not think the Board could ignore completely what might be the
Annapolis bank's alternatives.

If the application was denied, he

could conceive of a merger that might be even less advantageous.

By

a narrow margin, however, he would deny the application.
Governor Mitchell stated that the Legal Division's arguments
vere persuasive to him, and that he would deny the application.
Governor Balderston indicated that he would also deny the
aPPlication, on grounds similar to those cited by other members of the
Board.

He would regret it if a Baltimore bank larger than Union Trust

Should accomplish a merger with Farmers National after the Board had
denied this application, but he thought the factors in the present
ease pointed to denial.
Governor Balderston also referred to the question that had been
raised earlier in this meeting as to the wisdom of consultations by

the Board's staff with representatives of parties to bank merger cases.
While he recognized the risk involved, he had the feeling that the
'card's staff could protect itself by seeing that conversations were
conducted with propriety and with enough witnesses on hand so that
everyone knew what was said.
Chairman Martin stated that he would deny the Union TrustParmers National application.

He did not feel that anyone would be

PUnished or suffer by denial, except perhaps the management or

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stockholders of Farmers National.

The public interest would not appear

to be injured by denial of the application.
The application of Union Trust Company of Maryland to merge
with The Farmers National Bank of Annapolis was thereupon denied
unanimously.

It was understood that an order and statement reflecting

this decision would be prepared for the Board's consideration.
All members of the staff except Messrs. Sherman, Kenyon, Molony,
Noyes, Hexter, Brill, and Partee then withdrew from the meeting.
Margin requirements (Items 1-3).

There was a continuation of

the discussion at yesterday's meeting concerning the question of an
increase in the initial margin and retention requirements.
Beginning the further consideration of the question, Chairman
Martin said he thought it was a close call between going to 60 per cent
Or 70 per cent.

The case for going to 70 per cent was that it would

(48Pose of the matter for the time being; it would dispel speculation
about a possible additional increase.

If there was a move to

60

per

cent) there would be much discussion as to when and if the margin
requirements were going to be raised again, assuming of course a
e°ntinuation of current market trends.

This might be a factor of no

'
leat importance, but it was something to be considered.
Governor Mitchell observed that in the over-all sense the Board
48 dealing with a relatively insignificant amount of credit.

It would

be wrong to put the matter on the basis that the stock market was absorbing a significant amount of credit in the economy, while admittedly

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this was an extremely sensitive area in terms of people's expectations
about the business outlook.
Performed by speculation.

There was a function, he added, that was

He would like advice as to how much of a

role the use of credit was playing in the execution of the speculative
function.

As he understood it, only about 25 per cent of the trading

activity was on margin.
After Mr. Partee suggested that the figure was probably about
20 per cent, Governor Mitchell noted that this meant that the rest of
the trading activity was beyond the purview of the Board's authority.

The stock market had exhibited some large fluctuations since the May
1962 break.

It seemed as though the real values involved in the bulk

°f People's equities were being distorted, but the question was whether
there was too little or too much speculative activity.

It was his

impression that things had gotten into a posture where the speculators
were more seriously exposed to temptation than for a long time.

There-

fore, speculation could become cumulative quickly. Even though 75 or
80 per cent of the market trading was done on an equity basis, the
remaining 20 or 25 per cent would be in a badly exposed position.
Governor Balderston said it was his impression that present
market levels in relation to current and prospective earnings would
suggest perhaps a sounder basis for the price level than in previous
Periods of rising prices.

On the other hand, the figures Mr. Partee

had cited on the ratio of undermargined accounts at automated brokerage

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firms suggested that there might be more vulnerability than in the

spring of 1962. The question was whether the structure of credit, as
it existed today, was vulnerable to what one might regard as the normal
range of price fluctuations.

It might be advisable, he thought, to

take whatever steps were necessary to restore equity values in margin
accounts.
There followed further discussion of the role of credit in the
stock market and of the indication in the SEC Special Study that the
margin requirements then in effect had reduced the volume of forced
Belling at the time of the 1962 market break.
Governor Balderston then raised a question as to the extent
to which the flow of credit into the stock market tended to bring about
economic growth and job opportunities.

One reason he could see for

injecting credit into the market was that a rise in prices induced
thereby might cause corporations to sell stock instead of bonds.
Mr. Partee replied that he thought there was a distinct tendency for
the volume of new stock issues to rise when the market was higher, but

the volume nevertheless was small in relation to total financing.

He

alao noted that a higher market has a favorable psychological impact
On the holders of stocks, who tend to be wealthier people and businessmen making decisions.

They might be more optimistic regarding their

Nn business affairs if there was a continually rising market.

This

suggested the desirability of a sustainable rise in prices and guarding
against abrupt declines.

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Chairman Martin commented that the problem of defining "excessive"
use of credit in the market was what made administration of the margin
regulations so difficult.

But it should be remembered that the reason

for instituting these regulations was that there had been such a large
quantity of margin accounts sold out.

The total amount of credit in

the stock market was negligible measured against the whole, but there
is a difference between ownership of stock and ownership of a house.
Chairman Martin continued by commenting on the possible use
Of special miscellaneous accounts, following which he observed that it
I'as a fact that there had been a significant increase in recent months

in the use of stock market credit, along with indications of a substantial number of new margin accounts.

He thought that the 70 per cent

Margin requirement had reduced distress selling to some extent in the
1962 break.

In his opinion a fairly good case could be made that the

Board should show it was alert to the situation.
Governor Robertson commented that if initial margin requirements
were raised, that would catch people coming into the market, but people
itching from one stock to another would not be caught.

He felt,

therefore, that the Board would be making a mistake in not changing

the sUbstitution rule.

A purpose of the margin requirements was to

bring undermargined accounts up to whatever level the Board fixed, so
that if prices fell there would not be so much forced selling.

He saw

800d reason to raise the initial margin requirements and catch the
Dersons coming into the market, but this would not affect those already

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in the market who were contributing to the volume of credit turnover.
The Board, he suggested, could leave the margin requirements at 50 per
cent and eliminate the substitution rule.

Then, if a further step was

necessary later, an increase in margin requirements of even 5 per cent
might provide more of a bite than if the Board moved the initial margin
requirements to

60

or even 70 per cent today.

Chairman Martin expressed the view that elimination of the
substitution rule would involve changing the whole character of the
market.

He thought that the result would be larger fluctuations.

This

vent back to the question of the volume of stock market credit that

was necessary to provide a fluid market and a satisfactory relationship
between buyers and sellers at any time.

The course Governor Robertson

had suggested would encourage people to go into the over-the-counter
market.

It would drive securities off the exchanges to a floating

8UPPly around the country, and the Board would not be able to enforce
its margin regulations.

There would be a reduction in the general

Irolume of trading in the market.

He doubted whether this was what the

Board wanted to do.
Governor Robertson noted that when the margin requirement was
Only 50 per cent, the extent of undermargined accounts was not so great.
The higher the margin requirements, the bigger the bite.

An increase

t0 60 per cent might be too big a bite in terms of diminution of the
Use of credit.

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-20After further comments by Board members and staff on the

Probable market effects of elimination of the substitution rule,
Governor Mills indicated that he would be opposed to including a
change in the substitution rule in any revised formula of margin re-

Chairman Martin, in expressing agreement with Governor Mills,
said he felt that much more consideration should be given to the matter
than could be given today before making any change of that sort.

A

complicated operation was involved, and the Board should know for sure
'what it would be doing.

The Chairman added that if the initial margin

and retention requirements were raised, the broker could not completely
ignore undermargined accounts.
to think about the situation.

This would exert some pressure on him
Some brokers already had increased their

maintenance margins.
After further discussion, Chairman Martin commented that the
Problem confronting the Board today was whether it wanted to take the
Ilse in stock market credit that had occurred and conclude that it
Provided a basis, in terms of the use of credit, for taking some action
On the margin requirements.

The Board had reduced margin requirements

*°M 70 to 50 per cent in July 1962, and it would seem rather logical
to conclude that the Board should be moving back up in view of the
current market situation, particularly the fact that the amount of stock
Market credit was back up, even though it was still small in the overSense.

If there should be a strong bull market, he felt that the

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pressure on the Board to do something about the credit situation would
be great.

It seemed to him better to move at the present time.

Governor Balderston said that he would favor the 70 per cent
level for initial margin and retention requirements, but he supposed
that this would cause the unregulated lenders again to become active.
Governor Mills suggested, however, that such an increase in margin
requirements might be enough of an admonition of caution to market
Participants to dissuade them from going to the unregulated lenders.
Governor Robertson inquired whether a move to 70 per cent would
hot indicate more concern than was justified by the data on stock market
credit that had been presented to the Board.

After Chairman Martin

commented, in reply, that relative figures over a period of time would
seem to call for some change, Governor Robertson said that to him the
figures signified a situation where the Board ought to be aware of
14hat was going on, but at the same time not take such drastic action
as to convey an impression that the situation had gotten out of hand.
Governor Shepardson expressed the view that a modest increase
create a situation where everybody would be wondering when the
Other shoe was going to drop.

He thought it better to make a move at

this time that, while not extreme, would be significant.

As to the

tuirsgulated lenders, it seemed to him that if activity on their part
/4as going to quicken, there might be just about as much possibility of
that occurring at 60 per cent as at 70 per cent because a further margin
'
lequirement increase would be anticipated.

If the Board was thinking

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of

6o

per cent principally as a matter of giving it time to devise a

regulation covering unregulated lenders, then it could be said that such
a regulation could be prepared and issued within just as short a time
if the requirements were at 70 per cent as if they were at

bo

per cent.

Personally, he would be prepared to go to 70 per cent for both initial
rtlargin and retention requirements.
Chairman Martin said that he thought there was a little better
case for going to 70 per cent than

bo

per cent.

As he had remarked

Previously, a move to 70 per cent would dispose of the matter, for the
time being at least.
Governor Mitchell, however, expressed the view that the Board
coUld get practically the same psychological impact at

60

oUt running the risk of doing more than it wanted to do.

per cent, withHe was per-

81aaded that the current situation differed from 1961 because of the
difference in earnings prospects.
Governor Robertson said that this was where he would stand also.
There was a need for some action, but it would be bad if the Board took
"tion to go to 70 per cent and this had an adverse psychological effect.
It might look as though the Board was panicky rather than just giving
4°tice that it was on top of the situation.
to

He would prefer an increase

Kr,

%-,1/4) per cent in initial margin and retention requirements.
Thus, it developed that all of the members of the Board favored

sc)me increase in initial margin and retention requirements at this time.

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Four of the members would favor moving to 70 per cent, with the other
two preferring to move to

60 per cent.

Chairman Martin recalled that he had started out by saying that

he could be persuaded either way. But he thought the underpinning was
fairly strong at the present time.

He thought there would be an initial

reaction no matter whether the Board moved to

6o per cent or 70 per cent.

The market probably would be caught somewhat by surprise, but he thought
there was something to be said for moving at a time when the market was
caught by surprise.
Chairman Martin then proposed that the question be resolved in
favor of a change, effective tomorrow, in the initial margin and retention
•.4111irements from 50 per cent to 70 per cent, with public announcement
e.t 4:00 this afternoon.

The record would show that Governors Robertson

e.Ild Mitchell preferred 60 per cent.

Also, the staff should move as

1Dromptly as possible to develop recommendations as to what might be
aone about unregulated lenders.
Accordingly, with Governors Robertson and Mitchell dissenting
r°r reasons they had stated, the Supplements to Regulation T, Credit
bY Brokers, Dealers, and Members of National Securities Exchanges, and
RegUlation U, Loans by Banks for the Purpose of Purchasing or Carrying
Registered Stocks, were amended, effective November

6, 1963, to increase

the margin and retention requirements from 50 per cent to 70 per cent,
• th the understanding that a press release would be issued this afterthat notification of the action would be sent by wire to the

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Federal Reserve Banks and branches, and that an appropriate notice
would be published in the Federal Register.
Attached as Item No. 1 is a copy of the amended Supplement to
Regulation T; attached as Item No. 2 is a copy of the amended Supplement to Regulation U.

Attached as Item No.

3 is a copy of the statement

on the Board's action that was released to the press at 4:00 p.m. EST
today,
Holiday greeting card.

After discussion, the staff was authorized

to arrange for the preparation of a holiday greeting card that could be
sent by the Board next month to the heads of foreign central banks,
Reserve Bank directors, and other appropriate parties, the design of

the card to recognize the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Federal
Reserve Act on December 23, 1913.

This action contemplated such ex-

Penditure as might be necessary to Obtain and send an appropriate number
(If such cards.
The meeting then adjourned.
Secretary's Note: Governor Shepardson today
approved on behalf of the Board the following
items:
Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia (attached
Item No. 4) approving the appointment of James J. Curvan, Jr., and
,
'
31Dert A. Wallgren as assistant examiners.
Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago (attached Item No. 5)
Proving the appointment of Lloyd A. Bawden, James A. Piskos, and
'
4arles J. Walker as assistant examiners.

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Memorandum dated November 1, 1963, from the Legal Division and the
Division of Administrative Services recommending that arrangements be
Made by those Divisions for the printing of a loose-leaf compilation
of "Textual Changes in the Federal Reserve Act and Related Laws" in
order to bring up to date a similar compilation that was contained in
the "Digest of Rulings" published by the Board in 1937, and a mimeographed
suPPlement prepared in the Legal Division in 1956. It was understood
that the total cost of the project would be approximately $4,600, and
that approval of this project also constituted approval of any overexPenditure that might result in the 1963 printing and binding budget
Of the Division of Administrative Services.
ng
Memoranda from the Division of Administrative Services recommendi
that
in
persons
increases in the basic annual salaries of the following
Division as indicated, effective November 10, 1963:
From
Quincy W. Barnes, Operator (Mimeograph)
Theodore Jones, Operator (Mimeograph)
(change in title from Mail Clerk-Messenger)
Abraham Rose, Mail Clerk
Jartes T. Stewart, Senior Mail Clerk
(change in title from Mail Clerk)

To

$4,160

$4,202

3,770

3,952

4,085
4,580

4,345
45950

ng
Memorandum from the Division of Administrative Services recommendi
Clerk
Mail
Senior
of
position
..he transfer of Wesley B. Collins from the
the position of Foreman-Operator in that Division, with no change in
10, 1963.
°Ilsie annual salary at the rate of $5,090, effective November

,

Governor Shepardson noted today on behalf
of the Board a memorandum from the Division
of Personnel Administration advising of the
death of Jerome T. Kelley, Senior Federal
Reserve Examiner, Division of Examinations,
on November 1, 1963.

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TITLE 12 - BANKS AND BANKING
CHAPTER II - FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
SUBCHAPTER A - BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF nit FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
[Reg. T0 Supp.]
PART 220 - CREDIT BY BROKERS, DEALERS AND
MEMBERS OF NATIONAL SECURITIES EXCHANGES
Maximum Loan Value; Margin Required for Short Sales

L.

Effective November

6, 1963, §

220.8 (the Supplement to

Regulation T) is hereby amended to read as follows:
220.8 Supplement - (a) Maximum loan value for general
accounts.

The maximum loan value of a registered security (other

' than an exempted security) in a general account, subject to

220.3,

Shahl be 30 per cent of its current market value.
(b) margin required for short sales in general accounts.
The amount to be included in the adjusted debit balance of a general
"count, pursuant to

220.3(d)(3), as margin required for short

eales of securities (other than exempted securities) shall be
70 per cent of the current market value of each such security.
(c) Retention requirement for general accounts.
4

In the case of

general account which would have an excess of the adjusted debit

balance of the account over the maximum loan value of the securities
in the account following a withdrawal of cash or securities from
the account, the "retention requirement" of a registered security
(other than an exempted security), pursuant to
be 70 per cent of its current market value.

220.3(b)(2), shall

2. (a) This amendment Is issued pursuant to the Securities
txdhange Act of 1934, particularly section? thereof. Its purpose
iS to change loan values and margin requirements in order to carry
old the purposes of the Act.
(b) The notice and public procedure described in sections

4(a)

arid It(b) of the Administrative Procedure Act, and the thirty day
Prior publication described in section

4( )of such Act, are

1111Practicab1e, unnecessary, and contrary to the public interest in
toanection with this amendment for the reasons and good cause found

a stated in § 262.1(e) of the Board's Rules of Procedure (Part 262
this chapter).
(15 U.S.C. 78c, 76g0 78h, 78q, 76w.)
BOARD OF OOVERBORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Merritt
Secre

Item NO.
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TITLE 12 - BANKS AND BANKING
CHAPTER II - FEDERAL R/BERVE SYSTEM
SUBCHAPTER A - BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
[Reg. U, Supp.]
PART 221 - LOANS BY BANKS FOR THE PURPOSE
OF PURCHASING OR CARRYING REGISTERED STOCKS

Maximum Loan Value of Stocks
1. Effective November

6, 1963, § 221.4 (the Supplement to

RegUlation U) is hereby amended to read as follows:
'5 221.4 Supplement - (a) Maximum loan value of stocks.
the purpose of § 221.1, the maximum loan value of any stock,
Idlether or not registered on a national securities exchange, shall
be
JV

per cent of its current market value, as determined by any

ra
asonale method.
(b) Retention revirement.

For the purpose of § 221.1, in

the case of a loan which would exceed the maximum loan value of
the collateral following a withdrawal of collateral, the "retention
re Wirement" of a stock, whether or not registered on a national
88eurities exchange, shall be 70 per cent of its current market
114111e) as determined by any reasonable method.
2. (a) This amendment is issued pursuant to the Securities
icellellge Act of 1934, particularly section 7 thereof.

Its purpose

18 to change loan values in order to carry out the purposes of the
Act.

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(b) The notice and public procedure described in sections 4(a)
and 4(b) of the Administrative Procedure Act, and the thirty day
Prior publication described in section 4(o) of such Act, are
imPracticable, unnecessary, and contrary to the public interest in
connection with this amendment for the reasons and good cause found
as stated in § 262.1(e) of the Board's Rules of Procedure (Part 262
Of this chapter).
(15 U.S.C. 78c, 78g, 78q, 78w.)
BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Merritt
Seer

an,

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ror release at 4 p.m., EST,
T uesday, November 5,
1963.

November 5, 1963.

The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System today
attended its Regulations T and U, relating to stock market credit, to
irterease margin requirements from 50 to 70 per cent, effective tomorrow.
(November
6, 1963).
The action covers extensions of credit by brokers (Regulation T)
arid loans
by banks (Regulation U) for the purpose of purchasing or carrying
"
eurities registered on a national securities exchange.
Its effect will be
to
- require persons buying stock on credit to put up a minimum of 70 per
of the price at the time of the transaction.
The Board also amended the regulation to increase from
So t° 70 per cent, effective tomorrow, the amount that must be retained
in a
undermargined account with a brokerage firm or bank when there is
4 °ale

of part of the securities serving as collateral. An "undermargined"

4CC0unt

or loan is one in which the customer has an equity amounting to

lees .

" than the current margin requirement; i.e., beginning tomorrow, an
eqtlitY of less than 70 per cent. Thus, in the case of a sale of part of the
Cop_
L

ateral securing such
an account or loan, the amount of the sale proceeds

that Can be withdrawn by the customer will be 30 per cent. Since June 15,
"I

the amount that could be withdrawn had been 50 per cent..

granted
The Board's actions were taken pursuant to authority
it by Congress in the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 for the purpose of
Preventing
excessive use of credit for the purchase or carrying of
securities.
reduced
Since July 1962, when the margin requirements were
t° so per cent from the 70 per cent that had previously prevailed, stock
market credit,

as

of the
reported by brokerage firms that are members

New York Stock Exchange and by weekly reporting banks that are members
°1 the Federal Reserve System, has risen by $2.1 billion or 43 per cent.
the increase, nearly $1.8 billion was in customer net debits of the
ukerage firms, which rose 49 per cent.
No other changes were made in the regulations.

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Item No'W'
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BOARD OF GOVERNORS

......
Of Got;•.

Ii

OF THE
Tr:

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFTICJAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

RESt

November

5, 1963

CONFIDENTIAL (FR)
Mr. Joseph R. Campbell, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia,
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19101.
Dear Mr. Campbell:
In accordance with the requests contained in your letters
of October 30, 1963, the Board approves the appointment of James J.
Curvan, Jr. and Robert A. Wallgren as assistant examiners for the
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia. Please advise the effective
dates of the appointments.
It is noted that Mr. Wallgren's father is an officer of
The Philadelphia National Bank, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Accordingly,
the Board's approval of the appointment of Mr. Wallgren is given with
the understanding that he will not participate in any examination of
that bank so long as his father is an officer of that institution.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael

Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS

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OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE IBOARO

November

5, 1963

aMPIDENTIAL (FR)
Mr. Leland Ross, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago,
Chicago, Illinois 60690.
Dear Mr. Ross:
In accordance with the requests contained in your letters
of October 29, 1963, the Board approves the appointment of Lloyd A.
liswden, James A. Piskos, and Charles J. Walker as assistant examiners
or the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago. Please advise the effective
dates of the appointments.
It is noted that Mr. Walker owns fifty shares of stock of
The Waterloo Savings Bank, Waterloo, Iowa, a State member bank of
which his father is Chairman of the Board, and that he has agreed to
dispose of the stock. Accordingly, the Board's approval of the appointment of Mr. Walker is given with the understanding that he will not
Participate in any examination of that bank so long as he owns stock of,
°r is related to an officer or director of, that institution.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael

Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.