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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System was held in Washington on Wednesday, November 30, 1938, at 11:30
a. m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Davis
Draper

Mr.
Mr.
Mr..
Mr.

Morrill, Secretary
Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman

The action stated with respect to each of the matters hereinafter

referred to was taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the

Federal Reserve System held on November 28, 1938, were approved unaniMoilsly.
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
ecleral Reserve System with the Federal Advisory Council held on
N°7eaber 29, 1938, were approved unanimously.
Letter to the board of directors of the "State and Savings
Bell", Monticello, Indiana, stating that, subject to conditions of
illenbership numbered 1 to 4 and 6 contained in the Board's Regulation
li

-41u the following additional conditions, the Board approves the

1144°8 application for membership in the Federal Reserve System and
r°r the appropriate amount of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of
Chicago:




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p17.

"8.

-2Such bank, except as permitted in the case of national banks exercising fiduciary powers, shall not
Invest collectively funds held by the bank as fiduciary and shall keep the securities and investments
of each trust separate from those of all other
trusts and separate also from the properties of the
bank itself.
Such bank shall make adequate provision for depreciation in its banking house and furniture and
fixtures.
As soon as practicable such bank shall dispose of
any loans secured in whole or in part by its own
stock or debentures or obtain the substitution of
other adequate security for each such loan."
The letter also contained the following special comments:

"It has been noted that although the bank has fall
trust Dowers and is exercising such powers to a limited
extent under the direction of the president, who acts as
trust officer, no designation of a trust officer has been
made by the directors and no trust committee has been apPointed. Acceptance of trust business, no matter how
almall, entails serious responsibilities and if the bank
expects to continue its trust business it will be expected
to take the proper steps to bring its trust activities
into conformity with approved practices."
Approved unanimously, together with
a letter to Mr. Schaller, President of
the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, reading as follows:
"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
aPProves the application of the 'State and Savings Bank',
Monticello, Indiana, for membership in the Federal Reserve
System, subject to the conditions prescribed in the inclosed letter which you are requested to forward to the
board of directors of the institution. Two copies of
such letter are also inclosed, one of which is for your




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"files and the other of which you are requested to forward to the Director, Department of Financial Institutions,
for the State of Indiana for his information.
"In view of the nominal amount of estimated losses
as shown in the report of examination, the customary condition of membership regarding the elimination of the
assets so classified has not been prescribed.
"It is understood that the laws of the State of
Indiana prohibit the bank from pledging its assets as
security for trust funds deposited in its bankinE department and that trust funds so deposited are preferred claims
in event of liquidation of the bank. Standard condition
Of membership numbered 6, however, has been prescribed
in order that its provisions may be invoked at any time
in the future if necessary. You are, of course, authorized to waive compliance with the condition until further
notice in accordance with the general authorization previously granted by the Board with which you are familiar.
"The report of examination indicated that the bank
%as carrying a balance in excess of 10% of its capital
With the Farmers &Merchants State Bank, Logansport,
Indiana (a nonmember bank). It is suggested that the
bank's attention be called to the provisions of section
19 of the Federal Reserve Act with respect to the limitation prescribed on balances which a member bank may keep
on deposit with a State nonmember bank."
Letter to the board of directors of the "First Bank and Trust
C°r°13anY of South Bend," South Bend, Indiana, stating that, subject to
c°71ditions of membership numbered 1 to 4 and 6 contained in the Board's
4eulation H and the following additional conditions, the Board ap131'"ss the bank's application for membership in the Federal Reserve
EYstert. and for the appropriate amount of stock in the Federal Reserve
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of Chicago:
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Such bank, except as permitted in the case of national banks exercising fiduciary powers, shall not
invest collectively funds held by the bank as fiduciary and shall keep the securities and investments




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-4"of each trust separate from those of all other
trusts and separate also from the properties of the
bank itself.

"7. Such bank shall make adequate provision for depreciation in its furniture and fixtures.
8. Prior to admission to membership, such bank, if it
has not already done so, shall charge off or otherwise eliminate estimated losses of 427,753.51, as
shown in the report of examination of such bank as
of September 2, 1938, made by an examiner for the
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago."
The letter also contained the following special comments:
"The report of examination made in connection with
the application for membership reflects the unusual extent
to which the bank has engaged in the handling of automobile
and other finance paper. It is understood that, following
the examination made in March by State examiners and Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation examiners, the question
01 concentration in such paper was discussed, that the
management agreed to keep the concentration within certain
limits, and that since the March examination there has been
a material reduction in the aggregate amount of such 'paper
held. It will be expected that the spirit of the agreement
regarding handling of finance paper will continue to be
Observed after admission to membership and that the concentration in such paper will at all times be maintained within
Prudent limits."
Approved unanimously, together with
a letter to Mr. Schaller, President of the
Federal Reserve Bpnk of Chicago, reading
as follows:
"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
aPProves the application of the 'First Bank and Trust CamPanY of South Bend', South Bend, Indiana, for membership
In the Federal Reserve System, subject to the conditions
Prescribed in the inclosed letter which you are requested
to forward to the board of directors of the institution.




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"Two copies of such letter are also inclosed, one of which
ls for your files and the other of which you are requested
to forward to the Director, Department of Financial Institutions for the State of Indiana for his information.
"It is understood that the laws of the State of
Indiana prohibit the bank from pledging its assets as security for trust funds deposited in its banking department
and that trust funds so deposited are preferred claims in
event of liquidation of the bank. Standard condition of
membership numbered 6, however, has been prescribed in
order that its provisions may be invoked at any time in
the future if necessary. You are, of course, authorized
to waive compliance with the condition until further notice
in accordance with the general authorization previously
granted by the Board with which you are familiar.
"It is noted that your examiner has described in some
detail the procedure followed by the bank in administering
collateral trusts held and it is assumed that you will
discuss with the management the advisability of effecting
such changes in the handling thereof as may appear to be
Proper.
"It is noted also that the papers submitted with the
bank's application did not include a copy of a certificate
from the State authorities authorizing the bank to commence business. If such a certificate was required at the
time of the organization of the bank in 1922, it will be
appreciated if you will forward a copy thereof in order
that the Board's records may be complete."
Letter dated November 29, 1938, to the "First-Fond du Lac
N4ti°nal Bank", Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, reading as follots:
"This refers to the resolution adopted on July 18,
1938, by the board of directors of your bank, signifying
the bank's desire to surrender its right to exercise
fiduciary powers heretofore granted to it.
"The Board understands that your bank has been discharged or otherwise properly relieved in accordance with
the law of all of its duties as fiduciary. The Board,
therefore, has issued a formal certificate to your bank
certifying that it is no longer authorized to exercise any
Of the fiduciary powers covered by the provisions of section 11(k) of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended. This




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certificate is inclosed herewith.
"In this connection, your attention is called to the
fact that, under the provisions of section 11(k) of the
Federal Reserve Act, as amended, when such a certificate
has been issued by the Board of Governors of the Federal
Reserve System to a national bank, such bank (1) shall no
longer be subject to the provisions of section 11(k) of
the Federal Reserve Act or the regulations of the Board
of Governors of the Federal Reserve System made pursuant
thereto, (2) shall be entitled to have returned to it any
securities which it may have deposited with the State or
similar authorities for the protection of private or court
trusts, and (3) shall not exercise any of the Dowers conferred by section 11(k) of the Federal Reserve Act except
with the permission of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Dlr. Wood, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
°t St. Louis, reading as follows:
"On pages 2 and 6 of the report of examination of
the 'Manchester Bank of St. Louis', St. Louis, Missouri,
as of August 29, 1938, the examiner raises the question
as to whether the 0,000 par value Affiliated Fund Incorporated 5% 10-year Secured Convertible Debentures
recently purchased by the bank are investment securities
Within the meaning of the term as defined in the regulations of the Comptroller of the Currency, and states that
the matter is being submitted to the Board of Governors
Of the Federal Reserve System for determination. No
reference to the question was contained in your letter
forwarding the report of examination to the Board, and
it is not clear, particularly in view of the Board's
telegram to you dated April 4, 1938, regarding the eligibility of such debentures, whether you regarded the
statements in the report as a formal request for a ruling
from the Board.
"It is rather unusual for comments of the kind referred to on pages 2 and 6 to appear in open sections of
reports of examination and it is believed that it would




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"be preferable for requests for rulings by the Board to
be submitted in separate letters by the vice president in
charge of the bank examination department or the president
or first vice president of the bank, and that such letters
contain full information regarding the question raised,
together with any comments or suggestions which the Reserve bank cares to offer.
"In this particular case it may be stated that the
Comptroller's office has previously taken the position
In specific instances that debentures of the Affiliated
Fund Incorporated were considered as not falling within
the definition of investment securities contained in the
ComPtroller's regulation. However, as you know, it is
not the Comptroller's practice to rule generally with
respect to specific issues."
Approved unanimously.
Letter dated November 29, 1938, to Mr. Evens, Vice President
°D the
Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, reading as follows:
"There are inclosed a copy of a letter dated October
22,1938 from Mr. T. H. Frost, President of The Frost
National Bank of San Antonio, San Antonio, Texas, relative
to the provisions of the Clayton Act and a copy of my letter of this date to him which are self-explanatory.
"In this connection your attention is invited to the
Possibility that Mi.. Frost's services with The Frost National Bank of San Antonio and The National Bank of Fort
k)am Houston at San Antonio may came within the exception
set forth in section 2(d)(5) of the Board's Regulation L;
and for your information in the consideration of this
question there is also inclosed a copy of the Board's
letter of February 9, 1938, to Vice President Worthington
of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City relative to
the question whether Leavenworth and Fort Leavenworth,
ICansaa, are 'contiguous or adjacent' within the meaning
of the exception referred to above.
"Of course, if The National Bank of Fort Sam Houston
IS located within the corporate limits of the City of San
Antonio, the exception set forth in section 2(d)(5) of
Reeulation L would not apply, and even if the bank is situated within the military reservation, there may be other




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"facts which would differentiate this case from that discussed in the Board's letter to Vice President lorthington.
Accordingly, it is suggested that you and counsel for your
bank give such consideration as you deem necessary to the
Question whether section 2(d)(5) is applicable to Mr. Frost's
services with the two national banks, and in the event that
You are of the opinion that it is applicable, it is suggested that you advise Mr. Frost accordingly. Of course,
the Board will be glad to consider any question regarding
the matter which you feel should be submitted to it."
Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary.

APProved:




Chairman.