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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Rese
rve
System was held in
Washington on Monday, November 24, 1941, at 12:30
P.m.
PRESENT:

Mr. Ransom, Vice Chairman
Mr. McKee
Mr. Draper
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Morrill, Secretary
Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman

The action stated
with respect to each of the matters hereinafter

referred to was taken by the Board:
Memorandum dated November 17, 1941, from Mr. Smead, Chief of

the Division of
Bank Operations, recommending that, in connection with
the e,
4
'
- -of-year call for cond
ition reports, State member banks be recli
ed to report
their holdings of personal and retail instalment
Paper in
accordance with a proposed schedule attached to the memo
randum,
it being
understood that the Comptroller of the Currency
and the Federal-Deposit
Insurance Corporation would call for slar data from nati°11a1 banks
and insured nonm
ember banks, respectively. The memorandum
also
recommended that the
Division of Bank Operations be authorized to

rnake any minor
changes in the proposed schedule which might be agreed
11Pon

by rep
resen
tatives of the Board, the Comptroller, and the Federal
I3ePosit
Insurance Corporation.

or the

Approved unanimously.
Tel
egram dated November 22,
1941, to Mr. West, Vice President
p
ederal Reserve Bank
of San Francisco, reading as follows:




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"Retel nineteenth Bank of Spanish Fork, Utah. Board
vall interpose no objection to plan outli
ned but advise
bank that, after carrying value
has been reduced to $15,000,
depreciation must be continued at least at the maximum rate
allowed for income tax purposes."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Hitt, First Vice President of the Federal Reser
ve
Bank of
St. Louis, reading as follows:
"This refers to the application of 'The Southern
Missouri Trust Company', Springfiel
d, Missouri, for perto exercise fiduciary powers.
"In view of the information submi
tted by you, and
in accordance with
your recommendation, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reser
ve System grants the applicant
bank
Permission under the provisions of its condition of
membership numbered 1, to exerc
ise the fiduciary powers
authorized under its charter and
the laws of the State
f
Missouri. The Board's approval is given subje
ct to acceptance
by the bank of the following standard conditions
Prescribed
in connection with the admission to membership
of State
banks exercising fiduciary powers:
1. Such
bank shall not invest funds held by
it as fiduciary in stock or obligation
s
of, or property acquired from, the bank
or its directors, offic
ers, or employees,
or their interests,
or in stock or obligations of, or property acquired from, affiliates of the bank.
2. Such
bank, except as permitted in the case
of national banks excer
cising fiduciary
Powers, shall not invest collectively funds
held by the bank as fiduciary
and shall
keep the securities and investment
s of each
trust separate from those of all other trust
s
and separate also
from the properties of
the bank itself.
3. -If funds
held by such bank as fiduciary
are depos
ited in its commercial or savings
department or otherwise used in the conduct
of its business, it shal depos
l
it with its
trust department security
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"and to the same extent as is required
of national banks exercising fiduciary
powers.
"You are requested to advise The Southern Missouri
Tust Company,
Springfield, Missouri, of the Board's acion and to obtain an
appropriate resolution of the board
0! directors of the
bank accepting the conditions listed
aoove and forward
a certified copy thereof to the Board."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the Presidents of all of the Federal
Reserve Banks,
read;_
,
- Lag as
follows:
"From the Board's point of view, the recent
three-day
SYstem
conference on Regulation V; served a very useful pur13°8es In particular, the
Board wishes to express its appreciati°fl of the opportunity afforded for members of the Board
and its staff
to become better acquainted with the men in
atte
ndance from the Reserve Banks and to
obtain the views
01 the
Reserve Banks on the various matters discussed. The
a00perat1on of the Federal Reserve Bank
representatives
iacilitated
the discussion of a long program of topics and
r
fer,!ulted in giving
the Board and its staff much valuable in- mation and
'
counsel.
to someof these matters, such
as the Statement of
er
the Statement of Necessity, you will have alfe'dY received by
telegraph, or will soon receive, requests
11rther comment. A letter is now in
preparation concernt
;
e ata to be
tabulated by the Reserve Banks from the regisai'40r1 statements.
It is intended that System committees
3;
sliZ-!I. soon
be appointed on the
following: enforcement; rebr,1°ns with
national trade associations; participation of
es; and the collection and
organization of facts and
etgle,
s,. You will also
be receiving shortly for comment
sug,festions,
developed in the light of the conference
thocussi°n, fo2 Amendment No. 3 -- on which
action before
occl of
December is contemplated.
Were 'Among the
suggestions made at the conference, there
of
l relating to
the possibility of reconsideration
the
of th B°ard's interpretations of Regulation
W in the light
the d; exPerience and views of
the Reserve Banks. Since
pressscussion on this point may have
left a confusing im"
- )n, the Board
wishes to state that it will continue

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"its present practice, consulting beforehand with one or
more Reserve Banks when deemed necessary or appropriate,
but that after any interpretation has been issued the Board
uill amplify or modify the interpretation whenever good
reason for doing so may appear. Consequently, criticisms
and suggestions from the Reserve Banks will be in order
at any time, either shortly after an interpretation has
been issued or at any later time. They are in fact desired, and in case any given interpretation should turn
cut to be wrong in any important particular the Board will
not hesitate to correct it by issuing
a subsequent interpretation.
"It is contemplated that other System conferences on
RegulationViwill be held from time to time, of which it is
hoped that the next will be within sixty days or ninety days."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Fry, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Rich 4m
`"
1 °11(1,

reading as follows:

"Receipt is acknowledged of your letter of November 8
regarding a sample form of statement submitted by Congressman Bulwinkle.
"You are correct in your understanding that the last
!entence of our letter mentioned the bedroom suite merely
as an example,
and that any suite sold as a unit may be regarded as a single article."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Stroud, First Vice President of the Federal Reserve
-,,
ofDaa.l
as, reading as follows:
"This will acknowledge receipt of your letter of November 12
hi
, 1941, asking whether water pumps having ratings
i;gner than those referred to in the Board's Ruling W-21
are included within the scope of RegulationW if such pumps
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actually put to household use. The answer to this
sstion is in the negative.
The purpose of Ruling W-21 and others which made
'
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"finance companies, and enforcement agencies to determine
Whether a given article is or is not subject to the regulation by reference to the design without any necessity for
tracing the article to its ultimate use. The technical descriptions of items designed for household use were chosen
so as to
include most of such articles used in homes and
exclude larger types used for commercial, industrial, or
agricu
ltural purposes. This was an arbitrary rule of thumb
considered necessary for ease in observation and administration of the regulation.
"Your letter of November 12 also asked whether a windbr.1111 designed
to pump water into a tank from which water
15 piped
for household use would be included in the classification 'water pumps designed for household use'.
It is
”sumed that this windmill pump would
have
not
a
capac
ity
larger than
the sizes referred to in Ruling t-21. In ef;?ct) the windmill is equivalent to the elect
ric or gaso.
-ne engine
which forms a part of motor operated systems.
would seem that it would not make
any difference that
the Power
comes from another source. Nevertheless, it is
1 cognized that there
7
may be some distinction to be made
because of
the fact that the pump itself is a relatively
au-nor, porti
on of the system.
4_
l
would be appreciated if you would expre
ulIt
ss an opin:
"aas to what course
you think the Board shod follow,
'
E'er such study and inves
tigation as you deem appropriate."
Approved unanimously.
Letter dated Novem
ber 22, 1941, to Mr. Theodore Feinstein, ExDirector
of the National Supply Association of America, Inc.,
1138toll
) Mas
sachusetts, reading as follows:
ecutVe
;

tc)bA "This
will acknowledge receipt of your letter of0cconf 29, 1941, in which you present certain information
of—erning the effect of Regulation
IV upon the business
matY°1.1r membership
, which deals in plumbing and heating
11be
r"1" You have asked consideration of a possible
th era
lization of Regulation 17 to permit credit sales of
tile
rr
t.materials with lower down payments and longer ma+4
„,,.
on lee than are at present possible under the regula"There is no quest
ion but what the raw materials gog into the produ
cts in which your membership deals are




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"critical materials the supply of which is insufficient
to provide for
both defense and civilian needs. Under
such circumstances civilian needs cannot all be satisfied
and it has been considered inevitable that the plumbing
and heating industries will not be able to produce all of
the articles
which could be sold. This situation calls for
measures to restrain demand in order to avoid a 'sellers'
market'. One of these measures is control over instalment
credit.
"You have indicated that the Office of Production
Uanagement is developing procedures which will have the
effect of allocating certain amounts of the critical materials for use in producing plumbing and heating supplies
and that
0.P.M. has stated there will be an adequate allocation for repairs,
maintenance, remodelling and rehabilitation,
%hen
the Board you have additional information on this subject
would be glad to have it made available to the
Board's staff. At the
same time it would be helpful if you
Provided more specific statistics on
the character and vol,
11111e of
business in your field, the proportion financed by
Instalment credit, and the distribution of the instalment
contracts
by sizes and maturities."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. R. B.
Wood, President of the Adams County State
Adams,
tisconsin, reading as follows:
"Your letter of
October 25 to Secretary Morgenthau,
7.g
Reation W, has been referred to the Board
Governor and
has received our careful consideration.
."It is
certainly not the intent of the Board's Regatl°n1V to interfere
with any bank's sound lending poi
:
rc.
e and we
regret that you feel it does so. The regulation
diJ-at?s,
vl course, only to instalment
paper and this orIs not a large
part of a bank's portfolio. Furnot all loans that are
liquidated by partial
2rx:ient, are
1.ri
subject to the regulation. On this point an
1,s/.*pretation of the regulation (w-107)
adlng as
has been issued,
follows:
An ordinary
bank loan evidenced by a promis8°rY note
repayable in full at maturity is not




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subject to P.egulation IN, even though the bank
may anticipate that at the maturity of the note
it may accent a partial payment and a renewal
note for the balance; provided the bank makes
no comaitment to do so and the transaction is
entered into in good faith and not as a means
of avoiding or evading the Regulation.'
"It is also to be pointed out that under Amendment
2 (Section 6(1)
page 4) business loans are exempted from
the
regulation. A copy of the amendment is enclosed.
"In the preparation of the regulation and of the
amendments to it, the
Board has taken pains to consult as fully
as possible the
representatives of the businesses affected
flcl in particular it has availed itself of
the help of the
American
Bankers Association. It is regretted that the reg. ation
unavoidably imposes additional requirements upon
banks as well
as upon dealers and others who extend instalnt credit;
and the Board and its staff are earnestly endeavoring to
achieve greater simplicity in the regulation.
Hike are sendi
ng copies of your letter and of this reply
tO al, j
• . H. Dillard, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
cf
LI.On r Chicago, who is in charge of that Bank's administra01 ttegulationW in the distr
ict in which your bank is
located.”

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Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary.

Appr
oved:




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