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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
'with the Federal Advisory Council was held in Washington on Thursday,
November 21, 1955, at 10:10 a. m.
PRESENT: Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Thomas, Vice Chairman
Hamlin
Miller
Szymczak

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the Division
of Research and Statistics
Mr. Parry, Chief of the Division of Security
Loans
Mr. Currie, Assistant Director of the
Division of Research and Statistics
(first part of meeting)
ALSO PRESENT:

Messrs. Steele, Perkins, Loeb, Braun, Gohen,
Young, Smith, Wold, Kemper, Frost and Arnold,
Members of the Federal Advisory Council from
the First, Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth,
Sixth, Eighth, Ninth, Tenth, Eleventh and
Twelfth Federal Reserve Districts.
Mr. Edward E. Brown, President of The First
National Bank of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois,
representing the Seventh Federal Reserve
District.
Mr. Walter Lichtenstein, Secretary of the Fed—
eral Advisory Council.

The Secretary of the Council read the following statement which
he

reported had been adopted
by the Council at its meeting yesterday:
"The Federal Advisory Council acknowledges receipt of
he letter of the Secretary
of the Board of Governors of the
lrederal Reserve System dated November 12, 1955 in which the
Ild?ard asks the advice of the Council in reference to 'the de2
1 1rabi1ity of asking a small group of the larger member banks
'c) fill out a schedule showing in each cuse the deposits of




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"'the bank's fifty or one hundred largest depositors on
four dates in each year for the past six years, classified
by a broad classification', etc.
"The members of the Council as individuals see no
objection to banks giving the information, but the Council
as such does not desire to express an opinion on this subject."
The president of the Council stated that it was the feeling of
the Council in considering the Board's request that the amount of a
corporation's deposits standing alone might mean
very little; that a
corporation might have been losing money
for four or five years, but with
stRaller accounts receivable, inventories, etc., might be in a better cash
Position than at the beginning of the period during which losses were inHe said that, however, all of the members of the Council had
incliceted that they would be glad to have their banks prepare the inform4tion desired should the Board decide to make the request.
Chairman Eccles stated that the Board desired information with
regard to deposits, not because of its bearing on the financial position
°f the depositors, but for the purpose of determining the type of owner811113 and velocity of deposits concerning which no accurate current data
la available.

He added that it was felt that the concentration of the

clwriershiP of deposits was an important factor in the development of the
debr
eesion and is of importance today in connection with the recovery
m°7e4ent and that
it was desirable that the Board have information on the
biect available to it in connection with the consideration of credit
Policies.




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At the request of Mr. Eccles, Mr. Currie outlined briefly the
reasons which proiapted the suggestion that information with regard to
large deposits be obtained.
Mr. Young inquired what use would be made of the information, if
and when obtained
by the Board, and Mr. Eccles replied that it would be
helpful in the determination of System credit policies in connection with
Ithich it was believed all the information that could be made available
should be obtained. He pointed out that if there was a tendency towards
a large
concentration of deposits in the hands of a few corporations and
individuals, the use of which might have a considerable bearing upon the
effectiveness of a monetary and credit policy, it was important that the
Board have that information.
Mr. Frost inquired whether any plan has been suggested to prevent
he concentration of deposits and Ar. Eccles replied that he knew of none.
111'• Frost stated that in approving the statement quoted above the members
Of the Council desired to express their willingness to cooperate in the
tu4Y so far as their min banks were concerned, but that they did not
reel that they should suggest to other
banks that they furnish informatiO
4 with regard to deposits in such banks.
At this point Mr. Currie left the meeting.
Mr. Lichtenstein then read the following recommendation adopted
t5r the Federal Advisory Council at its meeting yesterday:
"The Federal Advisory Council understands that the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System is contemplating issuing regulations to deal with the control of




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"collateral loans to be made by banks. The Council, therefore, reaffirms herewith its recommendation of May 15, 1954,
reading as follows:
'The members of the Federal Advisory Council are
of the opinion that the Federal Reserve Board before
issuing regulations under this bill, provided it is
enacted into law, should make a careful study as regerds the needs of the situation. It should be
pointed out that the power conferred on the Board is
to be permissive and not mandatory. Consequently,
there is no need for the Board to issue any regulations until there is evidence that there is necessity
for them. In general the members of the Council feel
that if the Board conscientiously can refrain from
adding unnecessarily to the innumerable regulations,
orders, and laws of all kinds under which banks are
at present compelled to operate it will be doing a
distinct service.
'If and when the Federal Reserve Board deems it
necessary and advisable to issue regulations under
this provision of the proposed law then it is to be
hoped that the Board will bear in mind the need for
maintaining adequate markets not merely for securities
listed on the more important exchanges of the country
but also for securities which have merely a restricted
local market and those which are sold over the counter
and not listed. Stringent regulations may result in
destroying the market for the securities of small
worthy industries and thereby possibly destroy these
industries themselves by making it impossible for them
to obtain needed capital."
At the request of Cheirman Eccles, Mr. Parry fantlined briefly
the
scope of the authority of the Board to prescribe a regulation covertrig

the extension and maintenance of credit by banks for the purpose of

Pul'ehe
8-ng and carrying securities; pointed out that there was some
diffe
renee of
opinion as to whether the issuance of such regulation by

the Board
was permissive or mandatory under the law; and stated that the
P°8tP°nement of the issuance of the regulation had met the practically
°118 approval of all parties interested. He stated, however, that




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m°re recently reasons had appeared which suggested the advisability of
the issuance of such a regulation by the Board; that there were problems
which were difficult of solution in connection with the regulation of
the use of
bank credit; that the matter had been under consideration by
the Board for some time; and that it was contemplated that whenever the
'
l egulation is issued it will be as simple, clear and liberal as it is
P°Beible to make it in view of the purposes sought to be accomplished by
the

regulation.
Mr. Brown stated that collateral loans by banks in his district

had

steadily decreased and that there was a movement of collateral loans

fl'om banks to
brokers because of a lower interest rate, and he expressed
the °Pinion that, because of the additional work which would be involved
444 the objections which would be raised by customers of banks to furnishing the information necessary to enable the banks to comply with the
l'equirements
of the regulation, it was desirable that the Board defer
issuing the regulation until there was evidence of an increase of some
Ir°14111e in the amount of collateral loans by banks.
Chairman Eccles inquired whether, if such a position were taken,
°- similar
position logieraly could not be taken in connection with the
Tlestio
n of reducing excess reserves of member banks, on the ground that
tier
L':3 no evidence at the present time of the speculative use of bank

Mr. Frost stated that he could not agree to this; that in his
°Pinion

the imminence of the dangers resulting from the existence of ex-




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"es reserves justified doing something now to reduce them.
Mr. Brown stated that, in his opinion, a situation might not
arise for several years that would require the issuance by the Board of
a regulation
covering the extension and maintenance of credit by banks
for the purchasing or carrying of securities, whereas there was
a possibilitY that excess reserves, if not reduced in some manner, might result
in difficulties within the next six months or a year through the undue
extension of credit by banks on the basis of such excess reserves.
Mr. Szymczak inquired of Mr. Brown what harm might result from
ieBuing the regulation at the Present time and Mr. Brown replied that
c°mPliance with the regulation would involve the obtaining by banks from
their customers of statements of the purposes for which the proceeds of
1°114s were to be used; that the public would not like the applicatio
n of
4414itional rules and inquiries into their business or what might appear
t0 be regimentation of their affairs, particularly, at a time when busi4682

i8

going ahead, and that he felt that it would be a mistake to put

that additional
responsibility on the banks.

He pointed out also that a

Illeetion might arise as to the collcctibility of a loan where the retillil'enlents of the regulation were unintentionally not complied with in
InalrIne the
loan.

He added that it might be necessary, if evidence should

apPoar that
bank credit was being used for the purchasing or carrying of
eeeurities, or to prevent injury or injustice to brokers in favor of banks,
to
lasue a regulation which would put banks and brokers on an equal
1D4eis but that
he was convinced that there would be no need for such a




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regulation for a couple of years, whereas he felt that there would be
difficulty in the future unless the problem of excess reserves were dealt
with now.

He also stated that he felt the pressure for the issuance of a

riegl-llation covering loans by banks for the purpose of purchasing and
calrYing securities had come from the authors of the Securities Exchange
Act of 1934 and from brokers who desire to develop antagonism to the act.
Mr. Frost stated that he objected to the statement that the
Problem of reducing excess reserves
of member banks and the question of
the issuance of a
regulation covering loans by banks for the purpose of
PlIzichasing or carrying securities were analogous, and that he felt that
they
were two separate and independent
problems.
Mr. Perkins stated that he felt it should be made clear that
in
Maki

th

ng loans to commercial customers under
the proposed regulation, on
s
ecurity of a portfolio which might include a registered stock, the
would not he
under the necessity of cross-examining the customer

48 to the purpose for
which the proceeds of the loan would be used. He
418° said that
he understood that the problem was being considered by
Mr. parry.
In this
connection, Mr. Parry stated that the matter of
8ceetP1i8hing the
purpose of the regulation without interfering with the
1184a1 re
lations of banks and their regular
customers has been the prineiPal
point in the
minds of those working on the regulation and that he
relt the
Board would do
everything within its power, consistent with the
Purpos,,
8

SOUght




to be accomplished by the regulation, to avoid
restrictions

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°I1 commercial borrowing or impairment of the rights of banks against

borrowers from the banks.
Mr. Thomas inquired as to whether the members of the Council saw
anY objection to the drafting of a regulation which could be considered
alld placed in final form preparatory to its issuance by the Board, and
it Iras stated that, with the understanding that the Council felt that

there was
no reason for making the regulation effective at the present
time/ it was agreed that the preparation of the regulation was desirable.
Chairman Eccles pointed out that because of the relatively small
alli°untof colleteral loans being made by banks at the present time the
Present

might be an opportune time to test the regulation in the new

field that
it would cover, whereas if it were issued during a period of
iner'eased activity difficulty might result.
Mr. Miller inquired whether the members of the Council saw anytiiirlg in the present situation in the stock market which should
give

the Board
concern.
Mr. Perkins stated that, in his opinion, the activity in the
stock
market was due (1) to the low bond yields resulting in a shift by
illvestors from
bonds to corporate stocks of corporations rhich for the
first tin,
during the depression had substantial earning prospects, and
(2) a
large investment in stocks by
foreign investors. Mr. Brown ex-

Pressed

agreement with Mr. Perkins' statement, and said that corporations

111 the n1,-4..4
- cago district are beginning to show substantial earnings for

the

'4.rst time in four
or five years and the business and investing




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community are fairly well convinced that business is on the upturn.

He

added that the amount of stock buying caused by inflation fears was
e°nsiderably less than a year ago.
Mr. Miller inquired whether the other members of the Council were
in agreement with the opinions expressed by Messrs. Perkins and Brom and

MI'. Frost stated that inquiries are coristantly being made of him as to
the advisability of converting investments into common stocks in order
to protect
against inflation.

Mr. Smith stated that his experience in

St. Louj5
was similar to that of Mr. Frost.

Messrs. Steele and Loeb

were of the opinion that the fear of inflation was less than it was six
months or a

year ago.

Chairman Eccles expressed the opinion that so long as money
rates
continue low and ample funds are available for the capital and
mc)rtgege markets, there need be little concern over the question whether
atocka
are purchased because of fear or because of confidence in the

1311814"s situation, but that if it should appear that funds were being
absorbed
in equities and real estate to such en extent as to make funds
unavailable in the capital and mortgage markets except at undesirably
high rates
there would be real cause for concern.
Szymczak inquired of Mr. Braun what his opinion was in
connect::rith the
tatter under discussion and Mr. Braun stated that he
telt the imPressien still existed to some extent that there was something
tending toward
inflation, although he knew from his own experience that
investments made in
common stocks by organizations which formerly confined




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their investments to bonds were because of the decreased yield on high
grade bonds and the prospect of more profitable operation of the corporations the stock of which was being bought.
Mr. Lichtenstein then read a recommendation adopted by the Federal Advisory
Council at its separate meeting, as follows:
"The Federal Advisory Council, in view of the fact
that it has been advised by the Chairman of the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve System that the Board
does not have the authority to initiate open market operations, requests the Board to submit the following recommendation to the Open Market Committee and to call for that
Purpose a special meeting of said Committee at an early
date.
"The Federal Advisory Council of the Federal Reserve
System has received the communication of the Board of
Governors of the System, wherein reference is made to the
statement of the Council made to the Board at its meeting
of September 24, 1935, concerning the amount of Government
securities held by the System, which has not varied for a
long time, and calling the attention of the Board to the
basic theory of open market operations: that there should
at all
times prevail sufficient flexibility to prevent undue
expansion and contraction in the credit structure of
the
country. The Council enquired whether the Board agreed
witIi the princip
le enunciated.
"The present communicetion of the Board recognizes 'the
l?'ecessity for the consideration of the factors referred to
ln the statement
as elements in the determination of open
Tarket policy' and closes with the statement that
'if the
(31Incil has any proposals to make with respect to the
2Peration of the open market account of the Federal Reserve
°:fstem, which it believes to be pertinent in the existing
sltuation, all
factors considered, the Board will, as in the
Past, be glad to receive them and consider them'.
"The Council is fully cognizant of and thoroughly
:PPreciates the importance and significance of the obligalon imposed upon
it by law 'to confer directly with the
f_ederal Reserve
Board' and 'to make recommendations in re'..O discount rates, redisco
unt business, note issues,
'23,erve conditions
in the various districts, the purchase
marksale of gold or securit
ies by reserve banks, open
o erations la said banks, and the general affairs of




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"'the reserve banking System', and it has given its most
careful and earnest considerEtion to the suggestion by the
Board that it will be glad to receive from the Council such
proposals as it may make with respect to the open market
account of the System.
"As a result of this consideration the Council desires
to call the attention of the Board to the fact that, since
the discontinuance, more than two years ego, of open market
Purchases by the System, excess reserves of member banks
held by the System have now reached the unprecedented total
of more than three billion dollars, which may well be considered as a base upon which additional bank credit can be
extended to the extent of at least thirty billion dollars
With a corresponding increase of bank deposit liabilities.
wrhe Council believes that there have now been some
considerable evidences of recovery in business, of an increase in prices generally, and particularly in the security
markets of the country, with the possibility, at least,
that a too rapid advance of security prices could easily
develop into a new wave of speculation such as preceded the
market collapse of 1929. The constant pressure of the very
large excess reserves of the member banks creating a plethora
. of the available supply of bank credit has a very distinct
tendency to foster and encourage speculative activity, increase prices, and raise the living cost of the population.
The Council
believes that, even with the practically complete
elimination of excess reserves, the banking system of the
country would still be prepared and ardently desirous of
meeting any and all legitimate and proper demands for bank
credit, and it is strongly of the opinion that, in order to
Obviate the probability of an undue and dangerous credit
Inflation, it is desirable from every point of view to
eliminate or at least greatly reduce the excess reserves now
being carried in the System.
"Since the enactment of the Banking Act of 1955, there
exist two methods by which this can be accomplished. 1. The
selling or 'permitting to run off' of a portion or all of the
System holdings of Government securities. 2. Raising of
reserve requirements.
"The Council has most earnestly considered the question
as to which of
these two methods might be the more desirable
'UXlder the present
circumstances and has determined to recommend as
strongly as possible the first method.
"The controlling reason for this is the indisputable
fact that so
long as Government bonds are held under the
Ownership of
the System, either the currency of the country




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"or the reserves of member banks, to a corresponding extent,
are dependent entirely upon a Government obligation. The
rorld history of currency and banking has demonstrated the
dangers inherent in such a system or policy too many times
to make it necessary for them to be elaborated upon in this
communication.
"There is, however, another reason for preferring the
first method, namely, the ease and flexibility with which
it may be administered. Under that method, Government
security holdings may bb permitted to run off or may be
sold, rapidly or gradually, as in the judgment of the Open
Market Committee, may seem to be feasible or advisable. If
at any time, the effects seem to be too severe, it is
possible to suspend or even temporarily to reverse the
Policy.
"Under the second method, namely, increase of reserve
requirements, rigidity is substituted for flexibility, since
it must be entirely apparent to any one that frequent
Changes in reserve requirements would create a chaotic condition in planning for the future by member bank management.
"Finally, the Council wishes to make perfectly clear
to the Board that, after Government security holdings of the
System have been eliminated or greatly reduced, and if, then,
further curbs upon speculation should seem to be desirable,
here would certainly be no possible objection to an in1--ease in
reserve requirements. On the contrary, it would
become the clear and plain duty of the Board fearlessly and
Promptly to take such action."
Upon inquiry from Chairman Eccles, Mr. Smith stated that the
recoMmendation expressed the unanimous opinion of the Council.
Mr. Miller inquired rhether the Council proposed that the System
Should sell
securities to curb speculation and Mr. Smith replied that it
1148 rather for
the purpose of removing the temptation to speculate.
Pr°8t at

Mr.

that the recommendation was not made as being a corrective

illie484re, but because it
was felt that the System was faced with the
P"sibility of
speculative expansion.

Mr. Miller said that, in his

opinion, the
country was still faced with the problem of economic re-




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c"ery rather than speculative expansion.

Mr. Frost stated that

Government obligations were the basis of approximately $2,500,000,000
of the excess
reserves of member banks which could be used as a base for
the extension of credit of ten to fifteen times that amount, and
that
the

existence of large amounts of excess funds had put pressure on the

banks to keep their funds profitably employed, in order to permit the
Payment of dividends to shareholders, to a point where the banks were
willing to make loans which they formerly did not feel were safe to make.
Mr. Miller inquired whether other members of the Council sub—
scribed to
that position, and some of the members indicated that they
were not
entirely in agreement with Mr. Frost's statement.

Mr. Perkins

Ilererred to the
increase in excess reserves of member banks and inquired
whether it was
felt that if excess reserves mounted to four or five
billion dollars it would aid recovery.

Mr. Miller replied in the

negat
lye, hut stated that a movement to counteract an increase in re—
serves at this
time might have a chilling effect carrying with it a
P°8sibilitY of danger; that, while the Federal Reserve System would have
to
take
action in that direction at the proper time, he felt the im—
P°rtant

question at this time was whether the recovery movement had

/iellched that
point; but that it had been suggested as a reason for
111141ediate action
that if the System did not act now it might not act when
the time
arrived when action should be taken.
4r, Frost stated that his reason for sutgesting that action be
taken
at this
time was that it would enable the reduction or elimination




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Of the Government security holdings, upon which a Portion of the excess
reserves were based, without resulting in pressure on any member bank
to rediscount at the Federal reserve bank, whereas if action were not
taken until the excess reserves were used as a basis for bank credit the
8a-le of Government bonds would be made possible only by a corresponding
atilaullt of rediscounts by member banks or curtailment of loans of member
banks and that, in his opinion, the time to take action was while the large
eXcess reserves were not being used.
Mr. Miller raised a question as to the effect of a reduction of
rive hundred million or a billion dollars in the System account within
4 Period up to four months and Mr. Frost inquired if the results would
n°t be more unsatisfactory if action were not taken until a time when
ik credit
had been built up on existing excess reserves.

This point

Was discussed and Mr. Loeb stated that in the past, when Government
aectlrities were purchased by the System to offset the outflow of gold,
it had been stated that when the gold movement was reversed securities
W°1141 be disposed of as a matter of normal procedure, but that such action
had
not occurred. Mr. Miller answered that the conditions under which
the s
Mem is operating must be taken into account and that the policy
111.01,ved must be governed by the existing situation. He stated that he
telt
-ere would be a considerable hazard at the present time in the
-ation of a portion of the holdings in the System account and that

the n
'
lilestion would naturally arise as to the purpose of the System in
aPParen+,
-yJ-Y reversing its policy at this time.




Mr. Loeb stated that the

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a1swer in such a situation would be that a reduction in the holdings of
seoarities was a normal operation.
Mr. Miller expressed the opinion that the country was still
faced with the problem of recovery; and that the sale of between five
hundred million and one billion dollars of securities within a period of
four and five months would be extremely unwise.
Mr. Perkins stated that he would not have voted for the recominendation had he felt that there was any danger of stopping the trend of
recovery;

that he had discussed the matter with banks in New York who

felt that
cautious action could be taken; and that he had voted for the
recommendation for
the reason that he felt that if the System account
Vve1'e
gradually reduced it would not upset the recovery psychology,
here
"if the situation were allowed to reach a point where the excess
i*eeerves began to be
used as a basis for bank credit it might be
difficult to reverse the movement.
Chairman Eccles, after referring to the difference in viewpoint
the
in

A VI
-""".4

Council and the Board by reason of the fact that the former acts

advisory capacity, while the Board has the responsibility for

acti°11, Pointed out that a reduction of from five hundred million to a
billion dollars in
the System account might substantially stiffen
interest rates,
and that, if such action were taken when attempts are
made to
stimulate recovery, the Board would have great difficulty
t4

formulating satisfactory reasons for such action.

He stated that he

did 11°t wish to convey the
impression that the Board should defer action




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in order to keep interest rates do-An but thct its policy should be one
of encouraging the use of credit for a furtherance of recovery.
Mr. Perkins stated that he had not voted for the recommendation
for the puroose of increasing money rates and that he felt that such was
11°t the purpose of the Council in submitting the recommendation.

Chair—

nlaq Eccles stated that he had discussed this matter riith a number of
bankers, includin; some of the members of the Federal Advisory Council,
Who felt
that interest rates should be increased and that the banks
could not continue to
operate on the basis of present rates. It was
illdicated by a number of the members of the Federal Advisory Council thct
84ell a concideration hfd not entered into their action on the recommenda—
tion.
Chairman Eccles stated that, if the System should take action
tthich would affect adversely the Government bond
market, it would react
4()t °nly against the Federal Reserve System but the whole banking
tructure. He pointed out the additional fact that the Federal reserve
b4nka
- are dependent at the present time -for earnings upon their holdings
cr Gov
- ernment securities, and stated that if the securities were disposed
°t the banks might
reach the Point where it rould be necessary to sus—
Ile44

dends to stockholders and to ask Congress for appropriations to

riect °Aerating expenses, and that
if this should occur it would affect
the ;
4-ndePendence of the Federal Reserve System.

)1

Mr. Wold stated that the Federal reserve banks previously had
°I4er'ated
a period of approximately two years without profits, and




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0hairman Eccles replied that there was very little prospect in the near
fllture of any material increase of rediscounts for member banks or in
Paderal reserve banks' holdings of acceptances, so that undoubtedly there
"tad be a long period of time before the banks could depend on earnings
being sufficiPnt from any source other than their holdings of Government
se
curities.
Mr. Frost inquired whether the earning position of the Federal
'
l eeerve banks should be permitted to enter into the determination of open
larket policy, and Chairman Eccles stated that, while it should not be a
determining factor in open market policy, it would be proper to consider
it in

reaching a conclusion as to whether a policy of reducing excess

l'eeerves should be made effective by a change in reserve requirements or
by a
change in the System's holdings of Government securities.
Mr. Miller pointed out that the recommendation of the Federal
Advi
eory Council showed a very distinct preference for meeting the
altuation by a reduction in the System's holdings of Government securities
) and stated that he had reached the conclusion that the method to be
118ed at the
proper time was an increase in reserve requirements, and
that
ln this connection, consideration should be given by the Board to
teguesting such further authority from Congress as would enable the
toe.
rd to deal
effectively with any situation that might arise.
Mr. Arnold stated that excess reserves were largely the result
Of

g°1d imports and were held largely by banks in New York and Chicago
411d that
3 if reserve requirements were increased, it would work to the




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disadvantage of thousands of small banks that have no excess reserves.
Chairman Eccles stated that the study made by the Board of the reserve
Position of member banks showed just the opposite, viz., that excess
reserves were proportionately higher in the country banks than in the
reserve city and central reserve city banks.
Mr. Frost suggested that if reserve requirements were increased
40 change would be made in the amount of existing reserves, but that if
a reduction were made in the securities held in the System account
reserves of member banks would be reduced end the elimination of governmeat bonds would add
to the purity of the System's reserves.

Mr. Miller

atated that, apart from the method to be used, the alternative was not
°Ile of acting now or waiting until the situation is entirely out of hand;

that the real question was when should action be taken; that the System
%could be tested
by the accuracy of its judgment on this point; and that

the Board's record must shov. that it was not afraid
to wait when v,aiting
4(1 no harm but might be a constructive factor; and that it was not
id to act vhen it appeared that action was the proper course.
Chairman Eccles stated that he had met with the Council yesterday
411c1 had Pointed out that any recommendation of a reduction in the

83T8tW 5 holdings of Government securities would be one primarily for the
e°118iderEti0n of the Federal Open Market Committee, that the Federal Open
kark..4.
Committee had given very careful consideration to the problem,
elid it had come to the conclusion
that the System portfolio should not be

redu„
ed. Mr. Loeb inquired vhether the Committee had taken any affirmative
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action, and Chairman Eccles replied that it had called attention to the
large amount of excess reserves, and had expressed the feeling that the
Present was not the proper time to decrease the System's holdings of
Qoverament securities, but that it might be desirable for the Board to
give consideration to an increase in reserve requirements.
Mr. Smith stated that, while it was understood that only 46
barlks would not have sufficient available reserves and deposits with
Other banks to meet a 25% increase in reserve requirements, he felt that
1418t of the banks whose reserves rere close to the increased requirements
1/°111-d stop making loans and would raise the question whether or not
filther increases in reserve requirements were to be expected.

Chairman

4cl-es suggested that it might be better for reserve requirements to be
iricreased at this time than to wait until a large number of banks had
48ed their excess reserves as a basis for
the extension of bank credit,
4" when it might be necessary, in order to apply the necessary curb, to
iter
ease reserve requirements as much as 50%.
At Chairman Eccles' request, Mr. Goldenweiser made a brief state-

Referrinq to the alleged "defilement" of the Federal reserve
barlIts
through the holdings of Government securities, he pointed out that

the
rederal reserve banks have liabilities of 46,100,000,000 on deposits
44d $3 an
1-,,02000,000 on Federal reserve notes, aggregating $9,700,000,000,
4gain --R-+,
which they have $7,500,000,000 of gold certificates and
4)40n
-0100,000 of Government securities -- a ratio of reserve to - note
44c1 dePosit liabilities of 77 percent -- indicating that the reserve banks




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have an ample metallic reserve back of Federal reserve currency and
Zember bank reserve deposits. He also said that it was not unusual for
central banks to have n large portfolio of
government securities, since,
example, the Bank of England has 90 percent of its earning assets
in

Eovernments.
He also said that it was incorrect to speak of the Federal re-

87e banks "investing" reserves of the member banks in Government
"
11 11rities, the fact being that these reserves were erected in part by
the Federal reserve banks buying Government securities and in part by
g°34 imports, the proceeds of which have remained uninvested.
He said further that it might be logical to meet the abnormal
l'"erve situation arising from the large imports of gold through raising
teeerve requirements, and to reserve open-market operations for use at a
tinle when the
System's policy of easy money might have to be definitely
t'elfersed.
10

- 13 percent were established when the banking system had much

04aler
be

He pointed out that the present reserve requirements of 5, 7,

reserves, and that action in raising reserve requirements could

te4
v.tered

in the light of a readjustment to the System's changed reserve

P°81-tion.
Mr. Miller pointed out that there was a distinction betTeen intiEvti°118TY currency and credit and redundant currency and credit, and
ste'ted that at
this point in the recovery movement the former had not
tIlleal
'ed es a. condition requiring action by the Board, although the Board
all°111(1 be constantly on the alert to determine the time when action should
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Chairman Eccles stated that the Board has considered increasing
reserve requirements, not as a means of reversing general open market
Policy, but as a means of sterilizing gold imports on the theory that
the gold movement was an abnormal situation and, as the movement may be
reversed at
any time, imported gold should not be used as a portion of
the credit
structure.
Reference vas then made to the action taken by the Federal Open
Market Committee
at its meeting in Washington on October 22-24, 1955,
and
Chairman Eccles read the first -rive paragraphs of the draft of a
letter to the
Chairman of the Federal Open Market Committee which had
been Prepared in accordance with the action taken at the meeting of the
Board

yesterday.
Mr. Smith stated that several newspaper men hFd approached him

f°r a statement
of the matters under consideration b3, the Federal
4dviscr7 Council and that he had advised them that any statement on the
811bject would
be given out by the Chairman of the Board of Governors of
the
,ederal Reserve System. There was a discussion as to whether the
ree°11endati0ns of the Federal Advisory Council should be released to the
Pliecs, and Chairman Eccles stated that he felt that, while there

TES

no

°Neetion to informing the press of the topics which were considered by
the c
°linen, if the recommendations of the Council vere to be released,
114blicat1on should be deferred until the Board had had an opportunity to
e°1181der them
and determine what action it would take in connection therevIth.
Mr. Young suggested that the recommendation with regard to open




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market operation

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should not be released until submitted to the Federal

°Pen Market
Committee. Mr. Smith stated that the Council would give the
matter further
consideration and advise the Board today of its wishes in

the matter.




Thereupon the meeting adjoarned.