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Minutes for

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

November 17, 1961

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
You were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chin. Martin
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King
Gov. Mitchell

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
Friday, November 17, 1961.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.

Mills, Acting Chairman
Robertson
Shepardson
King
Mitchell
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Sherman, Secretary
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Thomas, Adviser to the Board
Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Noyes, Director, Division of Research and
Statistics
Farrell, Director, Division of Bank Operations
Koch, Adviser, Division of Research and
Statistics
Spencer, General Assistant, Office of the
Secretary
Yager, Economist, Division of Research and
Statistics

Money market review.

Mr. Yager commented on recent developments

in the money market, after which Mr. Thomas presented a report on bank
credit, the money supply, and related matters.
Following discussion based on those reviews, all of the members
cr the staff except Messrs. Sherman, Kenyon, Fauver, Farrell, and Spencer
vithdrew from the meeting and the following entered the room:
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Johnson, Director, Division of Personnel
Administration
Mr. Hexter, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Sprecher, Assistant Director, Division of
Personnel Administration
Mr. Hooff, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Potter, Senior Attorney
Mr. Fuerth, Attorney

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Discount rates.

-2The establishment without change by the Federal

Reserve Banks of New York, Philadelphia, and San Francisco on November 16,
1961, of the rates on discounts and advances in their existing schedules
waS approved unanimously, with the understanding that appropriate advice
would be sent to those Banks.
Items circulated or distributed to the Board.

The following

items, which had been circulated or distributed to the members of the
Board and copies of which are attached to these minutes under the
respective item numbers indicated, were approved unanimously:
Item No.
Letter to Riverside Trust Company, Hartford,
Connecticut, approving the establishment of a
1?ranch in the vicinity of the intersection of
,
'-aSalle and Ellsworth Roads, West Hartford.

1

Letter to Security Trust Company of Rochester,
Rochester, New York, approving the establishment
a branch at 293 East Main Street.

2

:etter to Wells Fargo Bank American Trust Company,
6an Francisco, California, approving the establishrnent of a branch in Red Bluff.

1

3

etter to Wells Fargo Bank American Trust Company,

4

'Jan Francisco, California, approving the establishOf a branch in the vicinity of the intersection
Saratoga, Prospect, and Campbell Avenues, San Jose
tter to Alvin L. Gray, Esq., Cleveland, Ohio,
,!garding the application of Regulation T to
ti rsonal lending activities of a securities dealer.
etter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas
arding the question whether the operation of
armored truck by a member bank to pick up
ePosits requires a separate branch permit for
t1Q/1 stop.

5

6

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-3Item No.

Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond
aPProving revised salary structures at the head
office and the Charlotte Branch effective
December 29, 1961, and at the Baltimore Branch
effective December 25, 1961.

7

In connection with Item No. 6, there was a general discussion
of the questions presented by the use of armored truck service to pick
1113 deposits.

It was pointed out that this matter had been the subject

of consideration by the bank supervisory agencies over a long period of
tune, and that the Board had reviewed the subject thoroughly in 1953 and
concluded that branch banking was involved.

It was known that this service

1484 being rendered by certain banks in New Jersey, and possibly one or two
Other places, without branch authorization.

Efforts had been made by the

ederal supervisory agencies, in consultation with the New Jersey State
Illthorities, to bring about a correction of this condition.

For various

reasons, however, the New Jersey authorities had demurred from particiPatIng in corrective steps, and the matter had never been brought to a
conclusion.
With respect to Item No. 7, attention was directed by Mr.
j°111180n to the salary structure at the Baltimore Branch, where the only
changes proposed were in certain of the higher grades.

While this

structure was slightly higher than the proposed head office structure,
Ifould be below the local market, as indicated by the community survey
Undert
aken earlier this year.

Therefore, the Personnel Division felt

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that the subject should be discussed with the Richmond Bank informally
when, it next conducted a survey.

At the present time, however, the

rate of employee turnover was at an all-time low, and the branch was
not experiencing any difficulty in recruiting employees.

This situation

apparently had some relationship to the degree of unemployment in the
neatimore area.

On balance, therefore, the Division recommended approval

of the Baltimore structure.

Comments by members of the Board reflected

to different opinion.

The meeting then adjourned.

Secretary's Note: Pursuant to recommendations contained in memoranda from
appropriate individuals concerned, Governor
Shepardson today approved on behalf of the
Board the following actions relating to the
Board's staff:

b
Mary L. Scott as Records Clerk, Office of the Secretary, with
asic annval salary at the rate of $4,145„ effective the date of
entrance upon duty.
Sal

inase

Nyart S. Sharigan, Secretary, Division of International Finance,
tr
°1111. $5,820 to $6,015 per annum, effective November 26, 1961.
S a

increases with change in titles

0, Margaret J. Moister, from $5,820 to $6,015 per annum, with a
poarlge in title from Assistant Supervisor, Administrative Subject and
er!C Files, to Supervisor, Subject Files, Office of the Secretary,
.Lective November 26, 1961.

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Salary increases with change in titles (continued)
Lillie B. Brow, from $5,335 to $5,655 per annum, with a change
in title from Senior Records Clerk to Assistant Supervisor, Subject
Files, Office of the Secretary, effective November 26, 1961.
l''rmission to engage in outside activity
Paul Gekker, Economist, Division of International Finance, to
accept appointment as Consultant in Soviet Economics at George Washington
University.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

Item No. 1
11/17/61

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

November,17, 1961

Board of Directors,
Riverside Trust Company,
Hartford, Connecticut.
Gentlemen:
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System approves the establishment of a branch in the
vicinity of the intersection of LaSalle and Ellsworth
Roads, West Hartford, Connecticut, by. Riverside Trust
Company, Hartford, Connecticut, provided the branch its
established within one year from the date of thia letter.
Very truly yours,

(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

Item No. 2
11/17/61

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

November 17, 1961

Board of Directors,
Security Trust Company of Rochester,
Rochester, New York.
Gentlemen:
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System approves the establishment of a branch by Security
Trust Company of Rochester, Rochester, New York, at 293
East Main Street, Rochester, New York, provided the branch
is established within one year from the date of this
letter.
Very truly yours,

(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

Item No. 3
11/17/61

ADDRESS orriciAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE °CARD

November 17, 1961

Board of Directors,
Wells Fargo Bank American
' Trust Company,
an Francisco, California.
Gentlemen:
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
approves the establishment of a branch in the vicinity of the
downtown business area of Red Bluff, Tehama County, California,
by Wells Fargo Bank American Trust Company, provided the branch
is established within one year from the date of this letter.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael)
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

Item No. 4

11/17/61

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

November 17, 1961

Board of Directors,
Wells Fargo Bank American
Trust Company,
San Francisco, California.
Gentlemen:
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
approves the establishment of a branch in the vicinity of the
intersection of Saratoga, Prospect and Campbell Avenues,
San Jose, Santa Clara County, California, by Wells Fargo Bank
American Trust Company, provided the branch is established
mithin one year from the date of this letter.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
4.trott,:, 4,4
oto

OF THE

Item No. 5

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

-

11/17/61

WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE

,
k mat

TO THE BOARD

November 17, 1961

14r. Alvin L. Gray, Esq.,
1012-14 Citizens Building,
Cleveland, Ohio.
bear Mr. Gray:
Your letter of August 17, 1961, to the Securities and
Change Commission has been referred to the Board of governors for
rePlY, since the regulations governing credit in the securities markets
1./ider the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 are promulgated by the Board.
Ic)u inquire whether a loan venture under which your client would lend
lip to 85 per cent of the value of listed securities would be in viola.1-on of the regulations relating to margins. Your principal question
'PPears to be whether loans otherwise subject to Regulation T, which
erns extensions of credit by brokers and dealers, would be exempt
r°111 the Regulation if made by a dealer "personally" rather than as a
Part of his business as dealer,

r

The Board of Govlirnors takes the position that such loans
0 lad be subject to the Regulation, on the ground that one who is a
rcreditor" as defined in section 220.2 of the Regulation is to be
4egarded as a creditor with respect to all his activities that relate
;
1 (1 securities transactions so that when they are of the kinds covered
Y. Regulation T they must comply with that Regulation.
Section 220.3 of Regulation T provides in part:
"(a) ... All financial relations between a creditor
and a customer, whether recorded in one record or in
more than one record, shall be included in and be
deemed to be parts of the customer's general account
with the creditor .. .." (Underscoring supplied.)

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Mra Alvin L. Gray

4.

You mentioned in your letter that several New York companies
have undertaken programs such as your client has proposed. Without
further details as to such activities it is not possible to comment
a
. n Whether such programs are subject to the Board's regulations. If
Y?li have any further questions as to the application of the regula
tlons, you may find it convenient to contact the Federal Reserve Bank
Of Cleveland.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.
Paiclosure: Regulation

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No.

6

11/17/61

WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

November 17, 1961

Mr. L. G. Pondrom, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas,
Dallas 2, Texas.
Dear Mr. Pondrom:
Reference is made to your letter of October 19) 1961,
Trust
regarding the question presented by the Southern Arizona Bank and
truck
Company, Tucson, Arizona, whether the operation of an armored
by a bank to pick up deposits requires a separate branch permit for
each stop, in view of the fact that the Board has held such an operation to constitute branch banking.
The Board's control over the establishment of branches by
member State banks is derived from section 5155(e) of the Revised
Statutes (12 USC 36(e)), which provides:
"No branch of any national bank association shall
be established or moved from one location to
another without first obtaining the consent and
approval of the Comptroller of the Currency."
This has been made applicable to State member banks, subject to the
aPProval of the Board) by the third paragraph of section nine of the
Federal Reserve Act.
of
The Board has consistently held that the picking up
branch.
a
cr ePosits by an armored truck constitutes the operation of
!
section
under
branches
of
on
definiti
the
upon
. .1ilis opinion is based
0 • 0 to
"
branch
a
defines
which
s,
Statute
of the Revised
include • • • any branch place of business ... at which deposits
are received, . . .". Thus, each stop of the truck at which a
the
dePosit is picked up would be a branch; aid therefore, since

BOARD Or GOVERNORS or THE ?voltam.. RESERVE SYSTEM

Mt. L. G. Pondrom

.2.

statutes require the Board's approval when a branch is nestablishedo u
a separate branch permit mould appear to be necessary for each stop
at which the bank operated a branch.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
• Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

Item No. 7
11/17/61

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

November 17, 1961
CONFIDENTIAL CFR)
MI'. Edward A. Wayne, President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond,
Richmond 13, Virginia.
Dear Mr. Wayne:
Reference is made to your letter received October 13, 1961,
in which your Bank requests the approval of upward adjustments in the
salary structures applicable to the employees of your Bank and its
b
ranches.
The Board approves the following minimum and maximum salaries
for the respective grades of the Richmond-Charlotte Branch structure,
effective December 29, 1961, and the Baltimore Branch structure, effective
ecember 25, 1961.
GradeRichmond-Charlotte
Maximum
Minimum
1
2

$2,444
2,600

3

2,808
3,068
3,432
3,796
4,212
4,628

4
5
6
7

8
9
10
11
12

13
14
15
16

4,966

$3,302
3,510

131:It
4,628
5,148
5,694
6,266
6,708

8,02
5,3827
5,980
6,630
8,944

7,280
7,982
8,762

9,594

9,828
10,790
11,830
12,948

Baltimore
Maximum
Minimum
$2,392
2,613

$3,198
3,562

2,860

3,857

3,146

4,251

33,58g
4,225

151:72739

200
4 6
1:
5

3113
6,7
5
7,007

5,629
6,097

7,605
8,255

6,708

9,048

7,280
7,982
8,762

9,828
10,790
11,830

9,594

12,948

The Board approves the payment of salaries to the employees,
other than officers, within the limits specified for the grades in which
the
Positions of the respective employees are classified. It is

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assumed that all employees whose salaries are below the Withal.= of
their respective grades as a result of the structure increase will
be brought within the appropriate range as soon as practicable and
not later than April 1, 1962.
Your letter indicated that the 1962 budget provides for
additional salary expense arising from these changes in structure.
Very truly yours,

(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.