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A. meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System was held in Washington on Tuesday, May 9, 1939, at 10:30
a. m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
McKee
Davis

Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Paulger, Chief of the Division of
Examinations
Mr. Parry, Chief of the Division of
Security Loans
General Counsel
Mr. Dreibelbis, As
Counsel
General
Mr. Vest, Assistant
of the
Chief
Assistant
Mr. Leonard,
Division of Examinations
Mr. Bradley, Assistant Chief of the
Division of Security Loans
Mr. Williams, Assistant Counsel
Mr. Solomon, Assistant Counsel
Mr. Dembitz, Special Assistant in the
Division of Security Loans
Before this meeting there had been circulated among the menbers of the Board a memorandum dated April 21, 1939, from Mr. Parry

submitting and recommending adoption of an amendment to the Board's
Regulation T, Extension and Maintenance of Credit by Brokers, Dealers,
and Members of National Securities Exchanges, which had been revised
in the light of the comments received from the Federal Reserve banks

in response to the Board's letter of November 4, 1938 (R-337). The




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memorandum, which also submitted a draft of statement for the press
With respect to the amendment, stated that the amendment would clarify
and liberalize, with appropriate safeguards, a number of technical
Provisions of the regulation which relate to cash transactions and to
loans made by one member of an exchange to another for the purpose
Of enabling the borrower to make a contribution of capital to his
firm..
Mr. Parry stated that the proposed amendment had been discussed with Mr. Draper prior to his leaving the city and that he
favored its adoption.
At the request of the Board, Mr. Parry then discussed the
Proposed amendment and the reasons why in his opinion its adoption
was desirable.

He also said that the amendment had been discussed

With representatives of the Securities and Exchange Commission who
were not in agreement with some of the changes which it would make

in

Regulation T and that it did not seam possible to reconcile these

differences of opinion.
Mr. Wyatt stated that the amendment had been approved by the
Legal Division.
After a discussion of the amendment,
Mx. McKee moved that the following resolution be adopted:
RESOLVED, That effective May 22, 1939, Regulation
T, Extension and Maintenance of Credit by Brokers, Dealers,




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and Members of National Securities Exchanges, be amended in
the following, respects:
1. Section 4(c) of Regulation T is amended to read as follows:
"(c) Special cash account. - (1) In a special
cash account, a creditor may effect for or with
any customer bona fide cash transactions in securities in which the creditor may -(A) purchase any security for, or
sell any security to, any customer, provided funds sufficient for the purpose
are already held in the account or the
purchase or sale is in reliance upon an
agreement accepted by the creditor in
good faith that the customer will promptly
make full cash payment for the security
and that the customer does not contemplate
selling the security prior to making such
payment; or
(B) sell any security for, or purchase
any security from, any customer, provided
the security is held in the account or the
creditor is informed that the customer or
his principal owns the security and the
purchase or sale is in reliance upon an
agreement accepted by the creditor in good
faith that the security is to be promptly
deposited in the account.
(2) In case a customer purchases a security
(other than an exempted security) in the special
cash account and does not make full cash payment
for the security within 7 days after the date on
which the security is so purchased, the creditor
shall, except as provided in the succeeding subdivisions of this section 4(c), promptly cancel
or otherwise liquidate the transaction or the unsettled portion thereof.
(3) If the security when so purchased is an
unissued security, the period applicable to the
transaction under subdivision (2) of this section
4(c) shall be 7 days after the date on which the
security is made available by the issuer for




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"delivery to purchasers.
(4) If any shipment of securities is incidental to the consummation of the transaction,
the period applicable to the transaction under
subdivision (2) of this section 4(c) Shall be
deamed to be extended by the number of days required for all such shipments, but not by more
than 7 days.
(5) if the creditor, acting in good faith
in accordance with subdivision (1) of this section 4(c), purchases a security for a customer,
or sells a security to a customer, with the understanding that he is to deliver the security promptly
to the customer, and the full cash payment to be
made promptly by the customer is to be made against
such delivery, the creditor may at his option
treat the transaction as one to which the Period
applicable under subdivision (2) of this section
4(c) is not the 9 days therein specified but 35
days after the date of such purchase or sale:
Provided, however, That the creditor shall not
so treat any purchase by a given customer if any
security has been purchased by such customer at
any time during the preceding 90 days in a special
cash account with the creditor, and then, for any
reason whatever, without having been previously
paid for in full by the customer, the security
has been sold in the account or delivered out to
any broker or dealer: Provided, That an appropriate committee of a national securities exchange, on application of the creditor, may authorize the creditor to disregard for the purposes
of the preceding proviso any given instance of
the type therein described if the committee is
satisfied that both creditor and customer are
acting in good faith and that circumstances
warrant such authorization.
(6) If an appropriate committee of a national securities exchange is satisfied that the
creditor is acting in good faith in making the
application, that the application relates to a
bona fide cash transaction, and that exceptional
circumstances warrant such action, such committee,




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"on application of the creditor, may (A) extend
any period specified in subdivision (2), (3), (4)
or (5) of this section 4(c) for one or more limited
periods commensurate with the circumstances, or
(B), in case a security purchased by the customer
In the special cash account is a registered or
exempted security, authorize transfer of the transaction to a general account or special omnibus account and completion of the transaction pursuant
to the provisions of this regulation relating to
such an account.
(7) The days specified in this section 4(c)
calendar
days, but if the last day of any
are
period specified herein is a Saturday, Sunday, or
holiday, such period shall be considered to end
on the next full business day. For the purposes
of this section 4(c), a creditor may, at his option, disregard any sum due by the customer not
exceeding 00."
2. Section 4(f) of Regulation T is amended by inserting
the following subdivisions after subdivision (1) of said
section and renumbering the succeeding subdivisions accordingly:
"(2) Make loans, and may maintain loans, to
or for any partner of a firm which is a member
of a national securities exchange to enable such
partner to make a contribution of capital to such
firm provided (A) the lender as well as the borrower is a partner in such firm, or (B) the lender
as well as the borrower is a member of such exchange, the loan has the approval of an appropriate committee of the exchange, and the committee, in addition to being satisfied that the
loan is not in contravention of any rule of the
exchange, is satisfied that the loan is outside
the ordinary course of the lender's business,
and that, if the borrower's firm does any dealing in securities for its own account, the loan
is not for the purpose of enabling the firm to
increase the amount of such dealing;
(3) Purchase any security from any customer
who is a broker or dealer, or sell any security
to any such customer, provided the creditor acting in good faith purchases or sells the security




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-6"for delivery, against fall payment of the purchase price, as promptly as practicable in accordance with the ordinary usage of the trade;"
Mr. M.oKee's motion was put by the
chair and carried unanimously with the
understanding that the amendment and the
press statenent hereafter set forth would
be sent to the Federal Reserve banks immediately with the request that the banks
send copies of the amendment and press release to interested persons in the respective Federal Reserve districts to reach
such persons on May 15, 1939, the date on
which the statement will be released to the
press, or as soon thereafter as possible:

"The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
has amended its Repulation T, entitled 'Extension and Maintenance of Credit by Brokers, Dealers, and Members of National Securities Exchanges', for the purpose of clarifying
and liberalizing, with appropriate safeguards, provisions
that relate to bona fide cash transactions in securities
and to certain other classes of transactions that are not
effected in margin accounts. The amendment, in tentative
form, was submitted to securities exchanges and other organizations for comment last November. It becomes effective
May 22, 1939, in the form attached.
"The principal changes made by the amendment may be
summarized as follows:
"Cash sales for customers. - When a broker sells a
security for a customer in a special cash account, without
first having obtained the security from the customer, the
broker will no longer be required by the regulation to get
the security within a period of 7 days, or within any other
Specified period. Such a sale cannot be a short sale, since
the making of a short sale by a customer in a special cash
account is forbidden.
"Cash purchases for customers on C.O.D. basis. - When
a broker buys a security for a customer in a special cash
account and the transaction is of the type in which the
customer arranges to have the security delivered to him
Promptly against payment, the broker will no longer be required by the regulation to obtain payment (and consequently




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"to make delivery) within a period of 7 days. The time
limit is not altogether removed, but is fixed at 35 days.
The broker is not permitted, however, without the permission of an appropriate committee of a national securities
exchange, to give the customer more than 7 days if the customer, for any reason whatever, has failed to settle with
him promptly in fall on any cash transaction during the
Preceding three months.
"Cash transactions between brokers or dealers. - Cash
transactions between one broker or dealer and another, as
distinguished from transactions and relations with the general
public, are relieved from the 7-day limitation, or any
stmilar limitation, provided the transactions are in good
faith for prompt settlement in accordance with the ordinary
usage of the trade.
"Loans by one member of an exchange to another. - A
new provision has been added to the regulation to facilitate
the making of a loan by one member of a national securities
exchange to another member for the purpose of enabling the
borrower, in his capacity as a partner in a member firu,
to make a contribution of capital to his firm. Unless
the loan is by one partner in a firm to another partner in
the same firm, however, it must be approved, in accordance
With conditions specified in the amendment, by an appropriate committee of the exchange, and one of these conditions is that if the firm is one that does any dealing in
securities for its own account, the loan must not be for
the purpose of enabling the firm to increase the amount
of such dealing."
During the discussion of the above matter Mr. Goldenweiser,
Director of the Division of Research and Statistics, joined the meeting
ezd at the conclusion of the discussion Messrs. Parry, Bradley, Dembitz
lind Solomon left the room.
Consideration was given to a draft of reply to a letter dated
APril 19, 1939, from Senator Wagner, Chairman of the Senate Committee
°11 Banking and Currency, requesting the opinion of the Board of Gov"norS as to the merits of bill S. 2150 which would amend Section 8




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the Clayton Act to extend until February 1, 1944, the time during
which interlocking directorates involving member banks which were law111Y in existence on August 23, 1935, could continue.
The draft of letter had been circulated among the members of
the Board and mi.. Draper had attached a memorandum to the file stating
that he wished to be recorded as voting "no" on the letter for the
reasons that the amendment would permit continuation of certain interlocking relationships which he considered undesirable in the public
I nterest and that the enactment of the bill might tend to defer consideration by Congress of the problem presented in the Board's statement
Of November 7, 1938, and in its Annual Report for the year 1938 with
reaPect to discrimination aaainst member banks.
The proposed letter was discussed in the light of the position
taken by the Board that discrimination against member banks in this
and other respects Should be removed and the letter was revised to
l'ead as follows:
"This is in response to your letter of April 19,
1939, requesting the opinion of the Board of Governors
as to the merits of the bill, S. 2150, to amend section
8 of the Clayton Act.
"As you know, the present statute provides that all
interlocking relationships which were lawfully existing
on the date of the Banking Act of 1935 could continue
until February 1, 1939. However, on November 7, 1938,
the Board of Governors, acting pursuant to authority
granted by the statute, amended its regulation so as to
extend this period to August 1, 1939 as to relationships
involving not more than two banks. In connection with
this action, the Board made the following statement:




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"The Board believes that the principles
of Section 8 of the Clayton Act, which relate to
interlocking bank directorates, are in the public
interest and should be applied to all classes of
banks. The law is now discriminatory in that it
applies only to cases involving member banks of
the Federal Reserve System or private banks. The
Board does not believe that there should be discrimination in any respect among classes of banks
subject to Federal authority.
'In view of the fact that less than a month
will elapse between the convening of the new Congress
and February 1, 1939, on which date certain existing relationships would terminate, the Board
has exercised its discretion under the law, as to
such relationships involving not more than two
banks, to extend this time to August 1, 1939.
This action was taken for the purpose of calling
the matter to the attention of Congress when it
convenes, with a recommendation that the existing discrimination between member banks and nonmember banking institutions be removed so that
the provisions of the law will apply alike to
all banks under Federal authority.'
"The proposed bill would make no change in the existing law except to extend for an additional period of five
Years the time during which interlocking directorates which
were lawfully existing on the date of the Banking Act of
1935 may continue. It would not permit the creation of any
new interlocking relationships of the kinds Prohibited by
the other provisions of the statute but, by postponing
further the time when certain existing relationships would
have to be terminated, it would make the accomplishment of
the objectives of the statute a more gradual process and
avoid the necessity for wholesale resignations, and corresponding replacements, among the directors and officers
of banks. While it would not remove the discriminatory
features of the existing law, reference to which was made
in the above statement as well as in the Board's Annual
Report for 1938, nevertheless, in the aforesaid circumstances, the Board has no objection to its enactment."




At the conclusion of the discussion
the revised letter was approved with the
understanding that, upon their return to

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would be free to record their votes on the
letter should they desire to do so.
Reference was also made to a draft of reply to a request re-

ceived under date of April 4, 1939, from Senator Wagner, Chairmen of
the Senate Committee on Banking and Currency, for the views of the
Board of Governors with respect to the merits of S. 2035, a bill to
authorize the establishment of certain branch offices in communities
Which have no banking facilities.

Copies of the draft and of Mr. Wyatt's

memorandum of May 3, 1939, which accompanied the draft, had been sent
to the members of the Board prior to this meeting.
It was agreed unanimously that the
letter should be revised along the lines
suggested during a discussion and that,
after approval by Mr. Ransom, the revised
letter should be sent to Senator Wagner.
Mr. Ransom referred to the bill (S. 2098) introduced in the
Senate by Senator Wagner, Chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking
Etild Currency, under date of April 6, 1939, to amend the Federal Home
L°an Bank Act, Home Owners Loan Act of 1933, Title IV of the National
liQueing Act, and for other purposes, and inquired what, if any, action

the Board felt should be taken with respect to the bill. lie stated that
Counsel's office had reviewed the bill and that it was in substantially
tile same form as the draft of bill which was trnrsmitted to the Board by
the Acting Director of the Budget under date of March 11, 1939, and on
Which the Board commented in its reply dated March 17, 1939.




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-11It was agreed unanimously that since the
position of the Board with respect to the bill
was stated in its letter of March 17, 1939, to
the Acting Director of the Budget, there appeared to be no reason why the Board should
make a farther report on the bill at this time.
Ransom also referred to the request received from Senator

Wagner, Chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking and Currency, under
date cra. February 18, 1939, for a report on S. 1482, a bill introduced
by Senator Mead to provide for the insurance by the Reconstruction
l'inance Corporation of loans made by banks to business enterprises for

the

Purpose of enabling such enterprises to increase their productions,

extend their operations, and modernize their plants.

In connection

with this matter, Mr. Wyatt stated that a new bill (S. 2343) to take

the Place of S. 1482 was introduced by Senator Mead yesterday, and Mr.
Williams said that the new bill incorporates certain features contained

in various bills which had been introduced in the Senate on this subject and that it was believed that if any action were taken in the
Senate
on this legislation it would be on the new bill.
In connection with a discussion of the bill Mr. McKee referred
to the article which appeared in the June 1922 issue of the Federal ReVC Bulletin and which presented facts relating to the use of credit
insurance in the United States and the methods by which it was written
by private concerns, and he raised the question whether the results
5°4ght by the Mead bill could be accomplished in this manner rather
than by the insurance by a Government agency of credits granted by banks.




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It was agreed unanimously that no report
should be made on the bill at this time.
Mr. Williams withdrew from the meeting at this point.
Mr. Ransom then called attention to a letter addressed to him
tillder date of April 17, 1939, by the Secretary of the Tennessee Bankers
Association in which he requested that a representative of the Board
attend the bankers' conference to be held at the University of Tennessee
°D. August 14-18, 1939, for the purpose of discussing at the conference
regulations that affect members of the Federal Reserve System.

Mr.

Ransom stated that he had discussed the request with Mr. Goldenweiser
and that it was his (Mr. Ransom's) suggestion that Mr. Thames, Assistant
Director of the Division of Research and Statistics, attend the conas a representative of the Board.
Mr. Ransam's suggestion was approved
unanimously.
Mr. Davis called attention to the suggestion made at the
tune Of the
meeting of the Chairmen of Federal Reserve Banks in Washon Ianuary 30, 1939, that another meeting of the Chairmen be
held in Washington some time during the spring months, and stated that
if the meeting was to be held this spring it was believed that arrangements could be made at that time for the Chairmen to issue a call for
conference of auditors of the Federal Reserve banks which Mr. Paulger
telt should be held early this fall, possibly in September or October.




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-13It was agreed unanimously that the
proposed meeting of the Chairmen should
be deferred until fall, but that Mr.
Paulger should proceed, in collaboration
with the auditors of Federal Reserve banks,
to prepare agenda for an auditors' conference with the understanding that the
conference would be held on a date during
the fall months to be fixed at some subsequent time.
Mr. Wyatt stated that he would like
to proceed along similar lines with respect
to a conference of counsel some time this
summer or early fall and he was requested
to proceed with the preparation of agenda
for each a conference.
Reference was made to letters which had been received from

the Federal Reserve banks following the informal meeting of the Presidents of Federal Reserve banks with the members of the Board on April
181 1939, when it was agreed that in the event of armed conflict abroad
resulting in serious disturbances to the markets in this country the
Federal Reserve banks daring the emergency should follow a policy of
/flaking advances to member and nonmember banks on the security of direct
obligetions

of the United States at par at the discount rate.

It was

stated that advice had been received from all of the Federal Reserve
banks except San Francisco that the suggested policy had been considered
by the
directors of the respective Federal Reserve banks and that all
°t them had agreed to the essentials of the program with the exception
°t the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago which
had Voted to establish, if and when the Board of Governors requested




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a review of rates due to disturbed political conditions abroad, a rate
Of 4% per annum to nonmember banks on advances secured by direct obligations of the United States and to require in connection with such adWinces a margin of not to exceed 10% of the par value of such collateral.
It was requested that a draft of letter
to the President of the Federal Reserve Bank
of Chicago be prepared, for consideration by
the Board, calling attention to the fact that
the action of the board of directors was not
in accordance with the suggested policy and
requesting that the matter be given further
consideration.
Mr. Ransom reviewed the discussions which had taken -place at
the meeting of the executive council of the American Bankers Association
at Hot Springs, Virginia, during the week of April 24, 1939, relating
to the absorption of exchange and collection charges by member banks.
At this point Messrs. Thurston, Wyatt, Paulger, Dreibelbis,
Vest) Leonard and Goldenweiser left the meeting and the action stated
/6-th respect to each of the matters hereinafter referred to was then
taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
l'edaral Reserve System held on May 3, 1939, were approved unanimously.
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
l'aderal Reserve System held on May 5, 1939, were approved and the
actions recorded therein were ratified unanimously.
Memorandum dated May 9, 1939, from Mr. Carpenter, Assistant




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Secretary, submitting the resignation of Miss Ruth McCrary as a file
clerk in the Secretary's Office to be effective as of the close of
business on July 29, 1939, and recommending that the resignation be
accepted as of that date.
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated May 8, 1939, from Mr. Spurney, Building Manager,
aabmitting the resignation of Matthew R. Tones as garage attendant, effective as of the close of business on

may 15,

1939, and recommending,

with the concurrence of Mr. Noell, Assistant Secretary, that the resignation be accepted as of that date.
Approved unanimously.
Letter dated May 6, 1939, to Mr. W. McC. Martin, President,
Pederal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, reading as follows:
"There is attached a copy of a letter received from
J. J. B. Billiard & Son, Louisville, Kentucky, asking
whether various stocks listed on Canadian exchanges may
be carried for a customer on margin.
"The letter indicates that the Securities and Exchange Commission expressed the opinion that this could
not be done but referred the firm to the Board for an official ruling.
"Assuming that the stocks in question are not also
registered on a national securities exchange in this country,
the opinion expressed by the Securities and Exchange Cammission is clearly correct since section 3(c) of Regulation
T, incorporating the statutory restrictions of section
7(c)(2) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, provides
that: 'No collateral other than registered securities
or exempted securities shall have any loan value in a
general account.'




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"It may be noted, of course, that under section 7(b)
Of the regulation unregistered securities may be held in
the account if they are taken merely for the broker's own
Protection and not allowed loan value for the purposes
of the regulation.
"It will be appreciated if you 14111 make nn appropriate reply to the inquiry. The firm is being advised
of this reference."
Approved unanimously.
Letter dated May 8, 1939, to Mr. Fletcher, Vice President of
the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of April 27, 1939, with
respect to the practice on the part of a member bank of
using Brink's, Inc., as an agency to solicit and pick up
deposits and to deliver payrolls for a depositor of such
bank. It is understood that one of your member banks has
requested you to obtain a ruling from the Board of Governors as to whether the absorption by a competitor bank,
if that bank is a member of the Federal Reserve System,
of the cost of rendering such a service constitutes an
indirect payment of interest within the meaning of section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act.
"In the Board's letter of March 18, 1937 (X-9846),
the Board stated that for the present it will not attempt
to issue detailed interpretations or rulings with reference
to questions as to whether the absorption of certain expenses constitutes a payment of interest, but will rely
Upon the cooperation and good faith of the member banks
in adapting their practices to conform to the spirit and
purpose of the statutory provisions prohibiting the direct
or indirect payment of interest on demand deposits. It
was pointed out that the determination of such questions
involves a due recognition of the spirit and intent of the
law and the exercise of judgment on the part of the bank
in the light of the provisions of the Board's regulation
and of all the circumstances of the case. The Board stated
that if, after considering such a question in this light,
there appears to be any serious problem with respect to
the matter, it is believed that it can best be handled




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"in due course upon a review of all the facts shown by the
records of the bank and the examiner's reports, if the
necessity arises.
"While there have been two cases during the last two
years in which the Board has taken the position that certain practices did not constitute an indirect payment of
interest, these instances were exceptional in that they
merely affirmed opinions previously expressed, and in each
case the proper conclusion appeared to be fairly clear.
Although a number of questions on this subject have arisen,
the Board has not otherwise departed from the policy announced in its letter of March 18, 1937. The Board feels
that it is desirable to continue to follow this policy for
the present and that it should not undertake to make an
exception in the instant case.
"It will be appreciated, therefore, if you will advise the member bank from which the present inquiry was
received of the Board's views with respect to this matter
as above set forth."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Young, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
c't Chicago, reading as follows:
"Reference is made to your letter of April 26 with
respect to the destruction of certain records accumulated
by the Federal Reserve Agents in the performance of their
nonstatutory duties prior to the transfer of such duties
to the Federal Reserve banks. Since it is thought advisable
to obtain Congressional approval for the destruction of such
records, it has been our thought that we should wait for a
reasonable period after the transfer of the nonstatutory
duties of the Federal Reserve Agents to the Federal Reserve
banks before requesting authority to destroy the records,
Particularly as we should not like to ask for such permission more than once. Accordingly, it is proposed to request such permission some time next year.
"It is our intention to ask each Federal Reserve bank
to submit to the Board some time this fall a list of all
such records which they would like to have authority to destroy. Upon receipt of such list appropriate request for
Congressional authority to destroy the records will be




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"submitted through the Archivist of the United States.
It is hoped that the accumulation of records at your bank
is not such that it will be a materiel hardship for you
to continue to keep the records for another year.
"In accordance with the recommendation contained in
the report of the Committee on the Destruction of Records
maintained by the Federal Reserve banks dated June 11, 1936,
the minimum retention period for examination reports, condition reports and reports of earnings and dividends should
be five years."




Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Assistant Secretary.