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Minutes for

To:

May 31, 1960

Members of the Board

From: Office of the Secretary

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial below.
If you were present at the meeting, your initials will
indicate approval of the minutes. If you were not present,
your initials will indicate only that you have seen the
minutes.




Chin. Martin
Gov. Szymczak
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
on Tuesday, May 31, 1960.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
Mills
Robertson
King
Mr. Sherman, Secretary
Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Miss Carmichael, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Hackley, General Counsel
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Daniels, Assistant Director, Division
of Bank Operations
Assistant Director, Division
Nelson,
Mr.
of Examinations
Mr. Smith, Assistant Director, Division
of Examinations

Application of Old Kent Bank and Trust Company to establish a
branch

(Item No. 1). Pursuant to the understanding reached on May 27,

Mr. Solomon had called Vice President Diercks of the Chicago Reserve Bank
regarding an application of Old Kent Bank and Trust Company, Grand Rapids,
Michigan, to establish a branch, at 1500 Kalamazoo Avenue, S.E., in Grand
Ilapids.

The Reserve Bank had recommended favorably on the application

bilt, on the basis of the discussion at the May 27 meeting, a majority
0t the Board was inclined to deny the application.
Mr. Solomon reported that the Chicago Bank had no strong feeling
the matter, the Bank's favorable recommendation apparently having
terlacted a view that Old Kent already had a dominant position in the area
question and that the situation would not be worsened by establishment
clf the additional branch.




The Reserve Bank acknowledged, according to

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Mr. Solomon, that it had no strong basis on which to resist concurring
in the view that the application should be denied.
Thereupon, the application of Old Kent Bank and Trust Company
was denied, Governor Mills voting "no" for reasons he had stated at
the meeting on May 27, 1960. A copy of the letter sent to Old Kent
Bank and Trust Company pursuant to this action is attached as Item No. 1.
Messrs. Molony and Fauver, Assistants to the Board, entered at
this point.
Monthly payment of interest on time and savings deposits (Item No. 2).
There had been distributed a memorandum dated May 24, 1960, from Mr. Hackley
attaching letters from Mr. Patterson, First Vice President and General
Counsel, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, with enclosures, which raised
the question whether, under Regulation Q, Payment of Interest on Deposits,
a member bank may pay interest monthly by check on a one-year time
certificate of deposit in an amount computed at a rate of
compounded quarterly.

3 per cent

The memorandum pointed out that there was no ques-

tion but that a bank could pay interest monthly in an amount equal to
one-twelfth of the amount that would be paid for the year at a straight
Or "simple" rate of

3 per cent. The question here was whether the monthly

eaah payment could be one-twelfth of the amount that would have been paid
tor the year if interest had been compounded quarterly.
It was brought out in the memorandum that the Supplement to
Regulation Q prohibits a member bank from paying interest on a time deposit




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with a maturity of six months or more "at a rate in excess of 3 per cent
per annum, compounded quarterly, regardless of the basis upon which such
interest may be computed." A footnote to this provision states that
this limitation is not to be interpreted as preventing the compounding
Of interest at other than quarterly intervals, provided that the aggregate amount of such interest so compounded does not exceed the aggregate
amount of interest at the rate above prescribed when compounded quarterly."
As noted in the memorandum, it could be argued that these provisions of Regulation Q contemplate that a member bank may compute and
PaY interest in any manner it pleases, provided the aggregate amount paid
4°es not exceed the amount that would have been paid at a rate of 3 per
cent if the bank had compounded interest quarterly.

This was the position

that had been taken by Mr. Patterson of the Atlanta Bank.
On the other hand, it could be argued that the Regulation meant
that if a member bank compounds interest, it may compound on any basis
It 'wishes, that is, semiannually, monthly, or otherwise, provided the
iltount paid when "so compounded" (as stated in the footnote) does not
Iceeed the amount that would have been paid if it had been compounded
qUarterly; but that the Regulation does not permit payment at a rate in
eXeess of 3 per cent when interest is disbursed monthly by check or cash
"
a is not actually compounded.

In such a case, only the initial deposit

etains in the bank; there is no interest upon which the bank pays interas in the case where interest is compounded.




This construction would

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give recognition to the distinction between simple and compound interest
and full effect to the limitation actually placed by the Board on interest rates.
As also noted in the memorandum, the Legal Division favored the
latter position, which had been taken by Mr. Hodge, General Counsel of
the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, and by the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation in respect to nonmember insured banks.
Attached to the memorandum was a draft letter to Mr. Patterson
that would express the view that payment of interest in the manner
described would be in violation of Regulation Q.

In the memorandum

Mr. Hackley also recommended that this interpretation be sent to the
Presidents of all Federal Reserve Banks and be published in the Federal
Register and the Federal Reserve Bulletin.
In commenting on the question raised by the Federal Reserve Bank
c't Atlanta, Mr. Hackley observed that Regulation Q fixes the maximum
l'ermissible rate of interest compounded quarterly.

The amount of interest

kid, when so compounded, may not exceed the amount that would have been
kid if the interest had been compounded quarterly.

In the case being

clrisidered, he noted, the bank would pay interest monthly by check in
411 amount equal to one-twelfth of the amount it would have paid for one

Year if the interest had been compounded quarterly.
Mr. Hackley said that the Legal Division was of the opinion that
the question raised by the Atlanta Bank was not of great significance.
licrvever, on principle, the practice described would seem to be in violation




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of the intent of Regulation Q, and the Comptroller of the Currency
had taken this position.

The question had arisen in several Federal

Reserve Districts and, in order to prevent the practice from spreading,
it seemed desirable for the Board to issue an interpretation on the subject.
Governor Mills observed that the practice involved payment of
interest that had not been earned and added to an account on a compounded
basis.

This, he stated, appeared clearly to be in violation of Regula-

tion Q; under the practice described, interest was being paid on funds
that had not been actively generated through the compounding process.
After further discussion, the Board approved the proposed
letter to Mr. Patterson, a copy of which is attached as Item No. 2, along
with a letter to the Presidents of all Federal Reserve Banks advising
them of the Board's position in this matter.

It was understood that the

interpretation would be published in the Federal Register and the Federal
Reserve Bulletin and that copies would be sent to the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation and the Comptroller of the Currency.
After the foregoing discussion Mr. Nelson withdrew from the
1:fleet1ng and Mr. Farrell, Director, Division of Bank Operations, entered,
1/1°ng with Messrs. Herz, Resident Partner, and Drake, Manager of the
lkshington office, of Price Waterhouse & Co.
Depreciation and fixed asset accounting procedures.

There had

been distributed a draft of letter to the Presidents of all Federal
Ileserve Banks that would enclose copies of a memorandum dated May 24,
1960, from Mr. Farrell regarding depreciation and fixed asset accounting




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procedures, a subject on the agenda of the forthcoming Presidents'
Conference.

The letter would indicate that the Board would like to

have, during the joint meeting on June 14, 1960, the views of the
Presidents with respect to certain recommendations appearing in the
memorandum.
The memorandum from Mr. Farrell pointed out that following
discussions of Federal Reserve Bank capital accounts and related matters
at the joint meeting with the Presidents of the Reserve Banks on December 15) 1959, and with Mr. Herz of Price Waterhouse & Co. at the Board
meeting on December 17, 1959, (1) the Board directed the Division of
tank Operations to work with Price Waterhouse in developing, in connection
with Reserve Bank buildings, an accounting procedure that would be, on
the one hand, as simple as possible and, on the other hand, based on an
orthodox rationale; and (2) the Presidents' Conference directed the
Subcommittee on Accounting to re-examine the present classification of
fixed assets and the present depreciation schedules.
As noted in the memorandum, at present the cost of furniture
and office equipment is charged to current expenses when purchased; while
buildings (including vaults) are depreciated at the rate of two per cent
Per annum of the gross book value or at such other rate as may be approved
by the Board, and fixed machinery and equipment is depreciated at a rate
tot to exceed ten per cent per annum of the gross book value of all fixed
Illachinery and equipment.

The present procedure also provides for charging

Placements to the depreciation allowance, thereby restoring the book




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value of the asset.

However, the determination of whether the cost

be charged to the
Of building alterations and replacements should
expenses is left largely to the
depreciation allowance or to current
the result that practices in
Judgment of the individual Banks, with
this respect have varied considerably.
nt procedure were cited
The following objections to the prese
asset valuations that do not
in the memorandum: (1) it has produced
Bank buildings; (2) it is a conglomerate
reflect the useful life of Reserve
Of

accounting concepts; and (3) it is
conventional and unconventional

of the fact that the Reserve Banks
Unnecessarily complex in the light
mination problems, and are
have no pricing problems, no dividend deter

not subject to income taxes.
nted on suggestions with
The memorandum referred to and comme
accounting procedures appearing
respect to depreciation and fixed asset
t Conference Subcommittee
it the April 29, 1960, report of the Presidents
Oh

also made to the views of Price Waterhouse
Accounting, and reference was

& Co. on this subject.
in the Subcommittee report and
On the basis of the suggestions
recommended in the memorandum that
those of Price Waterhouse, Mr. Farrell
provide for the following
the Board's Accounting Manual be revised to
Procedures:
1.

account all costs of new buildings,
Accumulate in a construction
extensive remodeling projects
additions to buildings, and of
addition). Upon completion of
(usually in connection with an




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such projects-(a)

Charge to the building account all of the project
costs except the cost of demolitions and removals,
which should be charged to current expenses.

(b) Reduce the building account and the depreciation
allowance by amounts reflecting the gross book
value of elements demolished or removed (either
on the basis of actual cost or reasonable estimates
thereof).
2.

Accumulate in a suspense account, to be closed out only at the
end of the year, all other charges for property additions,
replacements, improvements, and other building expenses including routine maintenance.

3. At the end of the year close out the suspense account mentioned
in Item 2 above in the following manner-(a)

Charge to the building account the cost of projects whidh
provide additional square feet of space or finish off
partially completed space, and of additional facilities
or equipment having a cost of more than $10,000. As an
example, the latter might include a new loading dock
in the security court, a new coin vault, a new sprinkler
system in a supply room, or additional booster fans for
the air conditioning system.

(b)

Of the balance remaining in the suspense account after
charges pursuant to (a) above, Charge to current
expenses for ordinary maintenance all of the remaining
amount up to one per cent of the gross book value of
the building and equipment therein.

(c)

Charge any balance then remaining in the suspense account
to the depreciation allowance.

y
ce
For purposes of expense reports, the cost of day-to-da maintenan
on
based
previous
estimates
by
monthly
least
should be accrued at
accruals
experience. Charges to expenses resulting from such
the
final
when
charge
year
the
of
end
should be adjusted at the
above.
3(h)
is determined pursuant to Item

5. Depreciation should be charged to current expenses at the rate

of two per cent per annum of the gross book value of the building and the fixed machinery and equipment therein.




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-9According to the memorandum, Price Waterhouse representatives

had indicated that they "could live with the proposed procedure,"
and that it could be defended as being appropriate for use under the
Special circumstances for which it was intended.
Commenting on the memorandum, Dir. Farrell said that an effort
had been made to work out a system that would be simple and yet would
conform generally to accounting conventions.

He believed that the

recommended procedure would provide such simplicity and would result in
fairly consistent practices.

To illustrate the operation of the formula,

Mr. Farrell reviewed how it would apply to various items in the Board's
accounts, although it had not, of course, been developed for that purpose.
With reference to Item 1 in the proposal, he noted that it
Yould apply only to new buildings, additions to buildings, and extensive
remodeling projects--for example, if another story were to be added to
the Boardts building or if the wings were to be filled in.

Under these

circumstances the entire cost of the project would be added to the
blzilding account, with the exception of the cost of demolition and
removals, which would be charged to current expense.

The building account

and the reserve for depreciation would be reduced by amounts reflecting
the gross book value of the elements demolished or removed.

This procedure,

Mr. Farrell noted, would be in accordance with conventional procedures.

As examples of the application of Item 2 of the proposal, Mr.
l'arrell referred to projects such as recaulking the Boardts building and
installation of a new compressor or cooling unit in the air conditioning




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system.

Both of these projects would be charged temporarily to a

suspense account.

In this account there would also be other items

such as, for example, day-to-day building maintenance, expenses connected with refurnishing the Board Room, and miscellaneous expense
items.
Under Item 3, at the end of the year the cost of new air conditioning equipment would be charged to the building account because this
is a new capital item.

Of the balance remaining in the suspense account

one per cent of the gross book value of the building and equipment
'would be charged to current expense; the remainder to reserve for depreciation, reflecting mainly the caulking project which would extend the
Useful life of the building.
Commenting on the proposal outlined in the May 24 memorandum,
Mr. Herz noted that in the Systemls structure questions arising from
Property and depreciation accounting are of relatively minor significance.
The proposal, he observed, was aimed at producing a greater simplicity
in day-to-day operations and a higher degree of consistency, when considered
in view of the variety of expenditures made by the System.

He had no

Objection to this simplification and said that it came pretty close to
being in accord with suggestions made by Price Waterhouse.

He saw no

Reserve Bank
Pressing need for a study of the present status of Federal
ProPerties so that building valuations could be readjusted.

However,

if these accounts were not adjusted and discrepancies as to the useful




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life of buildings that had accumulated over the years were left in
the accounts, it would be even less important whether the simplification of accounting procedures was strictly in line with usual private
accounting practices.

After endorsing the proposal outlined in the

memorandum, Mr. Herz repeated that essentially this was not a matter
Of great importance.

The proposed procedure would bring about a sub-

stantial degree of simplification of day-to-day work, and it would not
violate any accounting conventions.
In the ensuing discussion based on the May 24 memorandum and
the comments by Mr. Farrell and Mr. Herz, several questions were raised
and opinions expressed by members of the Board.
Governor Mills said he interpreted the proposal as a rejection
Of the conventional approach originally proposed by Price Waterhouse.
Re agreed that the Federal Reserve Banks could do what they chose; however,
a choice should be made as to whether they were Government and could
tollow their own whims or whether they were quasi-Government and had a
status that would justify following strictly conventional depreciation
Pra.ctices.

He did not regard the current proposals as conventional

daPreciation practices; they varied enough from the conventional approach
to reopen the question whether the Reserve Banks wanted to follow their
(441 Pattern.

He referred to a caulking job such as mentioned by Mr.

?arrell and said that, as he understood it, the alternative would be to
charge the cost directly to expense.




If it were charged to a depreciation

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reserve account, that practice, as he saw it, would hide a legitimate
expenditure that should justifiably be charged directly to expense,
and the tendency would be to build up depreciation accounts of individual Federal Reserve Banks at a loss to the Treasury.

For these

reasons, he questioned whether the proposed procedure should be followed.
With respect to charging depreciation reserve accounts with
items such as recaulking, Mr. Herz remarked that accounting practice
would support this procedure, although the subject was not free from
controversy.

If annual provision were made for depreciation of a

building, recognition would be given to the fact that certain things
were taking place over a period of time.

One was that the building

needed caulking and, by taking care of that, the building was restored
to its previous condition.

Therefore it would be appropriate from that

Standpoint to charge the cost of recaulking the building to a reserve
for depreciation.
Mr. Farrell pointed out that if the cost of such a job were
Charged to expense, there would be an immediate effect on the payments
made to the Treasury.

If handled through a depreciation reserve, the

tendency would be to spread out the effect on payments to the Treasury
because of higher depreciation charges.
After further comments by Mr. Herz on the arguments for and
against charging to expense an item such as a recaulking job, question
'
lIas raised by Governor Mills as to what the objections of the Subcommittee




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on Accounting had been to adopting a more conventional approach to
depreciation.
Mr. Farrell replied that the majority of the members felt it
was too much work to record the cost of each component that was added
to a building and set up a separate depreciation schedule.

He also

stated that attempts to define items for handling one way or the other
had bogged down because of difficulty

encountered in dealing with minor

replacement items.
At this point Governor Mills again stated that the current
Proposal was not in accord with his recollection of the approach originally
suggested by Mr. Herz and his colleagues

to which Mr. Farrell replied

by noting that one member of the Presidents' Conference (Mr. Bryan) had
favored a strictly conventional approach under which the Federal Reserve
Banks would follow the practices of private business concerns that must
submit reports to the Internal Revenue Service.

The feeling of Price

Waterhouse was that this would represent unnecessary record keeping as
far as the Federal Reserve was concerned.

The Subcommittee on Accounting

took the same point of view, but went so far as to favor charging to
current expense everything that did not amount to more than 2 per cent
of the gross value of the building and equipment.
Governor King referred to a statement in Mr. Farrell's memorandum
to the effect that Price Waterhouse representatives had expressed an
°Pinion that they "could live with the proposed procedure,' and he asked




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Mr. Herz what would be necessary in order for him to endorse the proposal
completely.
Mr. Herz replied that he had no difficulty with the proposed
procedure; it did not depart very much from conventions.

The proposal

of the Accounting Subcommittee to limit what is added to capital accounts on
the basis of a percentage of the gross value of the building would create
distortions because of differences between smaller and larger Reserve
Bank buildings.

The current proposal, on the other hand, would provide

that an expenditure normally be over 40,000 before it would be considered
a capital item.

He felt this was a reasonable limit in the System, and

it was in accordance with the practice of business concerns, because they
too must break at a practical point.
with that limitation.

Accordingly, he had no quarrel

Basically, the decisions each year between what

a firm will capitalize and what it will handle in another way are decisions
reflecting certain conventions, and the proposed procedure would be
acceptable from his standpoint.

As regards charges to reserve accounts,

he belonged to the school that did not favor that practice, but he would
not object if anyone wanted to follow that procedure.

The current

proposal provided for charging expense for ordinary maintenance each
Year up to 1 per cent of the gross book value of the building and equipment.

The cost of ordinary repairs and alterations in Federal Reserve

Bank and branch buildings for a five-year period had been about 1 per cent
a year.

Accordingly, this was a convention applied here, and he saw no




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objection to it.

The proposal, he noted, involved a further simplification

by lumping building and equipment together in the total of depreciable
assets whereas they had been separated before.
In commenting further on the proposal, Mr. Herz reiterated that
his only reservation was that, if charges were to be made to depreciation
accounts, the building accounts should be adjusted to reflect more nearly
the remaining useful life of the various buildings.
During the discussion that followed concerning the effects of
adopting the procedure outlined in the May 24 memorandum, Governor King
expressed the thought that the procedure seemed unnecessarily complicated
and that the same effects could be achieved by a simpler, more straightforward approach, charging items either to expense or capitalizing them.
The depreciation reserve accounting, he thought, could get so involved
over a period of years that it would be difficult to understand.

A more

fundamental question, as he saw it, was whether the present book values
were going to be adjusted.
Mr. Herz commented that the features of the proposal relating
to depreciation reserves could,
if they were deemed objectionable, he
separated from the remainder of the proposal.
Governor King then inquired regarding the reasoning behind the
proposal to establish suspense accounts, to which Mr. Herz replied that
the intention was to reduce the day-to-day workload and permit items
to be reviewed in better perspective.




Mr. Farrell pointed out that what

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was being sought was a system that would be simple and still would
provide consistency of reporting results.

If there were piecemeal

expensing and capitalizing, there must be difficult decisions.

For

example, some of the Reserve Banks would charge projects such as
installation of coin vaults to current expense whereas others would
capitalize these items.

If the formula provided in the proposal were

eliminated, there would be the problem of deciding which procedure to
follow.
Governor King observed that businessmen constantly make decisions
of this type.

There was, he thought, no problem in making such decisions

under general guidelines.
Mr. Herz commented that in the case of large expenditures,
such as installation of coin vaults, where a bank might charge the cost
to current expense, it would seem that the item would come to light
quickly in any review.

At that time the charge could be adjusted so

that it would be in line with practices followed throughout the System.
In the case of smaller items, it would not seem to make any particular
difference whether they were handled uniformly.

It was his view that

the System need not be greatly concerned about minor inconsistencies.
Governor Balderston suggested that the problem was relatively
unimportant except that earnings should neither be overstated nor
understated because of public relations and relations with the Treasury.
If necessary, however, he would not hesitate to have the Board prescribe




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a procedure different from that suggested by the Subcommittee on
Accounting, and he thought there would be general agreement that
major inconsistencies should be avoided.
Governor Mills brought out that the subject had come up
because of concern that fixed asset accounting practices followed by
the Federal Reserve Banks were not in accord with conventional accounting methods.

He felt the Board should be careful not to accept any

proposal if it appeared to be faulty in any substantial respect.
There ensued a general discussion of the operation of the
procedure recommended in the may 24 memorandum from Mr. Farrell, along
With the distinctions between that procedure and the practices suggested
in the report of the Subcommittee on Accounting.

In the course of this

discussion, Mr. Herz said that if the historical record had been read
accurately, it seemed that there would seldom be a case where consequential charges would be made against depreciation reserves, except
in connection with an item such as recaulking.

In connection with

such an expenditure there could be argument among accountants as to

how the item should be handled.
At this point Chairman Martin asked Mr. Herz whether he felt that
the system would be violating any conventional practices by following
the procedures recommended in Mr. Farrellts memorandum, and Mr. Herz
replied that he did not think so.
Governor King then stated that he would be inclined to favor
the procedures outlined in the report of the Subcommittee on Accounting




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except that he would not have suggested a distinction whereby projects
would be charged to current expense automatically if their cost was
less than 2 per cent of the gross book value of the building and equipment.

He would prefer the placing of judgment in the hands of each

Reserve Bank for he doubted the feasibility of writing rules and
regulations of general applicability.
Mr. Herz agreed that one can never get away completely from the
would
necessity of making interpretations and added that there always
be differences of opinion about certain items.

Mr. Farrell commented

that the proposal in the May 24 memorandum was designed to reduce the
number of occasions on which judgments would be required.
Governor Balderston then referred again to the distinctions
between the suggestions of the Subcommittee on Accounting and the
procedure proposed in Mr. Farrell's memorandum.

He indicated that

his principal question related to the suggestion of the Subcommittee
that a distinction be made in the treatment of expenditures based on
whether or not the cost exceeded 2 per cent of the gross value of the
building and equipment.

Except for that feature, he had hcp<id it

might be possible to go along with the views of the Subcommittee, for
he felt that the problem was not important enough to stir up the Federal
Reserve Banks.

He would be able to live with the recommendations set

forth in Mr. Farrell's memorandum, which as he understood it, reflected
a compromise proposal advanced by the staff after studying the views




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These recommendations

of the Subcommittee and of Price Waterhouse.

would, in his opinion, provide a system of accounting that would not
be hard to accept.
Mr. Farrell noted that the proposal included the only recomy made; namely,
mendation that the Subcommittee on Accounting actuall
s be
that the building and fixed machinery and equipment account
at an annual rate
combined and that depreciation be taken thereafter
Of 2 per cent rather than the present 2 per cent on building and 10
per cent on fixed machinery and equipment.

Other statements in the

Subcommittee's report were more in the nature of suggestions submitted
for consideration.
Chairman Martin then asked Mr. Herz whether he could go along
With the recommendations in Mr. Farrell's memorandum and feel that
no serious violence would be done to anybody.
could
Mr. Herz replied that he thought these recommendations
be adopted without encountering any serious objection from Price Waterhouse
or other accountants.

He proceeded to review in some detail the nature

Of the recommendations and the results that their adoption would produce.
of
Governor King asked Mr. Herz whether he felt that adoption
the recommendations would result in both an improvement and a simplifithought
cation of present practices, to which Mr. Herz replied that he
their ado'tion would result in simplification.

While they would not

not result
necessarily represent an improvement, their adoption would

in a reverse of improvement.




He would favor their adoption on the basis

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of simplification; the elimination of inconsistencies would not in his
opinion amount to so much that the elimination would constitute a major
improvement.
Governor King then stated that he would be willing to accept
the recommendations on the basis mentioned by Mr. Herz.
Messrs. Herz and Drake then withdrew, along with Messrs. Kenyon,
Daniels, and Smith.
Chairman Martin inquired as to what action the Board wished to
take in the light of the meeting with Messrs. Herz and Drake, and after
some discussion it was agreed to send to the Presidents of the Federal
Reserve Banks copies of the memorandum from Mr. Farrell dated May 24,
1960, with a letter requesting the views of the Presidents at the joint
meeting of the Presidents and the Board on June 14, 1960, concerning

the

procedure recommended in Mr. Farrell's memorandum.
Miss Carmichael and Mr. Farrell then withdrew from the meeting.
Appointment of director and Deputy Chairman at the Richmond Reserve
Bank.

Dr. D. W. Colvard, Dean of Agriculture of North Carolina State

College, resigned as a Class C director and Deputy Chairman of the Federal
Reserve Bank of Richmond, effective June 30, 1960, inasmuch as he had
accepted the presidency of Mississippi State University.

After considering

Persons mentioned in a memorandum from Mr. Fauver dated May 26, 1960, it
was agreed unanimously to request the Chairman of the Richmond Bank to
ascertain whether Mr. William H. Grier, President, Rock Hill Printing &
Finishing Company, Rock Hill, South Carolina, would accept appointment,




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if tendered, as a Class C director of the Bank for the unexpired portion
of the term ending December 31, 1960, with the understanding that the
appointment would be made if it were found that Mr. Grier would accept.
Secretaryta Note: It having been ascertained
that Mr. Grier would accept appointment, if
tendered, as a director of the Federal Reserve
Bank of Richmond, a telegram making the appointment was sent to him an June 2, 1960.
Mr. Edwin Hyde, presently a Class C director of the Federal
Reserve Bank of Richmond, was appointed Deputy Chairman of that Bank
for the remainder of 1960, effective July 1, 1960, to succeed Dr. Colvard.

The meeting then adjourned.




Item No. 1

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

5/31/60

OF THE
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FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

I

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRE•PONDIENCE
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TO THE BOARD

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June 1) 1960

Board of Directors,
Old Kent Bank and Trust Company,
Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Gentlemen:
Reference is made to your request submitted through
the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago for permission to establish
a branch at 1500 Kalamazoo Avenue, Southeast, in Grand Rapids.
After considering all of the information submitted
with respect to this proposal, the Board of Governors does not
feel justified in approving the establishment of the branch in
view of the adverse effect which its establishment would seem
likely to have on competition in the area.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon

Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE
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FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

Item No. 2
5/31/60

ADDRESS OrFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

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May 31) 1960

Mr. Harold T. Patterson, First Vice President
and General Counsel,
Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta,
Atlanta 3) Georgia.
Dear Mr. Patterson:
May 201 19601
This refers to your letters of May 16 and
ing the
regard
ures,
addressed to Mr. Hackley1 with their enclos
st on
intere
of
t
paymen
question whether a member bank's plan for
erequir
the
with
ms
a one-year time certificate of deposit confor
ments of Regulation Q.
the bank would pay
It is understood that under the plan
equal to one-twelfth
amount
interest monthly by means of check in an
year if the bank
the
of the amount that would have been paid for
permissible rate
m
maximu
had compounded interest quarterly at the
of 3 per cent.
prohibits a
The Supplement to the Board's Regulation Q
or on a time
t
deposi
member bank from paying interest on a savings
in excess
rate
a
"at
more
deposit having a maturity of 6 months or
of the
less
regard
rly,
of 3 per cent per annum, compounded quarte
te states
footno
A
ed."
comput
basis upon which such interest maybe
the
ting
preven
as
reted
that this limitation "is not to be interp
ed
provid
als,
interv
rly
compounding of interest at other than quarte
not
does
nded
compou
so
that the aggregate amount of such interest
prescribed
exceed the aggregate amount of interest at the rate above
when compounded quarterly."
pay
These provisions in effect permit a member bank to
ht
straig
a
on
paid
that
than
interest in an amount somewhat greater
st,
intere
nd
compou
to
is
3 per cent basis if the bank's practice
amount
provided that on whatever basis interest is compounded the
been paid
have
would
that
amount
so compounded" does not exceed the
at the maximum rate when compounded quarterly. The Regulation does
not prevent a member bank from paying interest monthly by check




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BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE

Mr. Harold T. Patterson

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instead of compounding interest. However, the Regulation does not
contemplate payment of interest in excess of a straight or simple
rate of 3 per cent except where it is paid on interest left in the
account, that is, where interest is compounded. Accordingly, a plan
under which monthly payments are made by check in an amount equal
to one-twelfth of the amount that would have been paid for a year if
the bank had compounded interest quarterly at a rate of 3 per cent
would not be in accordance with the Regulation.
The same principles would, of course, apply to monthly
payments of interest by check on a time deposit having a maturity
of less than 6 months and on which the maximum permissible rate would
be 2-1/2 per cent or 1 per cent. They would equally apply to monthly
payments of interest on savings deposits.




Very truly, yours,

Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.