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Minutes for

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

May 27, 196k.

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
you were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chm. Martin
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. Mitchell
Gov. Daane

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
on Wednesday, May 27, 1964.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.

Balderston, Vice Chairman
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Mr. Sherman, Secretary
Miss Carmichael, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Bakke, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Noyes, Adviser to the Board
Mr. Cardon, Legislative Counsel
Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Hackley, General Counsel
Mr. Brill, Director, Division of Research and
Statistics
Mr. Farrell, Director, Division of Bank
Operations
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Shay, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Hooff, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Holland, Associate Director, Division of
Research and Statistics
Mr. Dembitz, Associate Adviser, Division of
Research and Statistics
Mr. Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Langham, Assistant Director, Division of
Data Processing
Mr. Sanders, Attorney, Legal Division
Mr. McClintock, Supervisory Review Examiner,
Division of Examinations
Mr. White, Review Examiner, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Veenstra, Chief, Financial Statistics
Section, Division of Data Processing

Discount rates.

The establishment without change by the Federal

Reserve Bank of Boston on May 25, 1964, of the rates on discounts and
,
advances in its existing schedule was approved unanimously with the
Understanding that appropriate advice would be sent to that Bank.

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-2Circulated or distributed items.

The following items, copies

of which are attached to these minutes under the respective item numbers
indicated, were approved unanimously:
Item No.
Letter to Irving Trust Company, New York, New York,
approving the establishment of a branch at 675 Third
Avenue, Borough of Manhattan.

1

Letter to Bank of Delaware, Wilmington, Delaware,
approving the establishment of a branch at Chestnut
Hill Road and Route 273, White Clay Creek Hundred,
New Castle County.

2

Letter to The Southwestern National Bank of Oklahoma
City, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, granting its request
for permission to maintain reduced reserves.

3

Letter to Chippewa Trust Company, St. Louis, Missouri,
waiving the requirement of six months' notice of withdrawal from membership in the Federal Reserve System.

14.

Letter to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
regarding the application of Northtawn Bank of Decatur,
Decatur, Illinois, for continuation of deposit insurance
after withdrawal from membership in the Federal Reserve
System.

5

Letter to Mr. Eugene Adams, President, The First National

6

Bank of Denver, Denver, Colorado, regarding conflicts
between the bank supervisory agencies.
Report on competitive factors (Dayton, Ohio).

After discussion,

a report to the comptroller of the Currency on the competitive factors
involved in the proposed merger of The Community Bank, Dayton, Ohio, into
The National Bank of Dayton, Dayton, Ohio, was approved unanimously for
transmittal to the Comptroller.

The conclusion read as follows:

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The Community Bank and The National Bank of Dayton are
not direct competitors to an important extent.
While the proposed merger will not have adverse effects
on other banks serving Montgomery County, it will increase the
concentration of banking resources in three banks which now
hold about 89 per cent of the total bank deposits in Montgomery
County.
z,
Mr. White then withdrew from the meeting, and Messrs. Schwart
nt General
Director, Division of Data Processing, and O'Connell, Assista
Counsel, entered the room.
Call report form (Items 7 and 8).

There had been distributed

suba memorandum dated May 25, 1964, from Messrs. Veenstra and Holland
mitting for the Board's consideration drafts of letters to (1) the Bureau
of the Budget responding to a letter dated May 15, 1964, to the heads of
the three Federal bank supervisory agencies and (2) the Comptroller of
uniform
the Currency making clear the System's position with respect to a
call report, both in general and with special reference to the forthcoming June call.
ed that
The May 15 letter from the Bureau of the Budget indicat
sory agencies
differences in the forms used by the Federal bank supervi
had prevented the compilation of regular benchmark statistics for the
had involved incomSeptember 1963 call and that the April 1964 call
by estimating techniques.
Patibilities, which had been overcome

The

tion of this situation into the
letter stated further that a continua
June call might be expected to have more serious consequences and urged

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that negotiations be undertaken that would assure compatibility for the
June and subsequent calls.
The draft reply to the Bureau of the Budget would indicate that
the Board wished to support the Bureau's efforts to improve the Federal
of a uniform call
statistical system and was interested in the adoption
report and the continuation of a cohesive and integrated banking statistics
program consistent with a minimum respondent burden.

The letter would

state also that the Board had been in communication with the other Federal
bank supervisory agencies, specifically urging the adoption of a compatible

report form for the June call, and would enclose a copy of a letter that
was being sent to the Comptroller of the Currency along this line.
In discussion, Mr. Holland pointed out that the letter from the
e
which
Budget Bureau was an outgrowth of a telephon conversation during
Mr. Bowman of the Bureau had expressed concern to Governor Robertson
the Federal bank supervisory
about the lack of common purpose among
agencies.

In that conversation Mr. Bowman had stated that he proposed

to write letters to the three agencies expressing his concern.
the proposed letter to the
Governor Robertson commented that
do any good but, on the other hand,
Comptroller of the Currency might not
it would at least put on record the Board's willingness to cooperate with

the other agencies in working out a suitable format for the call report.
ce of having full and comMr. Holland emphasized the importan
call.
Patible statistics for the mid-1964

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In the discussion that followed, Mr. Holland commented that as
yet the Board's staff had no definite information as to the format that
the Comptroller of the Currency proposed to use for the June call, although
it was understood that the Federal Deposi., Insurance Corporation planned
to use a form that would be compatible with the December 1963 call report.
If the Comptroller should decide to use an abbreviated form, then it
would again be necessary for the Board to collect supplementary information
from national banks in order to provide certain benchmark statistics.
Governor Mills said he would favor sending the proposed letters
to the Bureau of the Budget and to the Comptroller of the Currency.

He

also suggested that representatives of the Board's staff should be especially
recorded about the profusion of
attentive to any complaints that were
statistics that the Board was requesting.

He felt strongly that the

Board should have in mind the proper interests of banks, and he would
not wish to place on them the burden of reporting a mass of statistics
for which there was little or no real need.
staff had in
Mr. Veenstra commented that the plans the Board's
in the total
mind for the call report would result in a net reduction
burden of reporting.
Referring to Governor Mills' remarks, Mr. Noyes stated that, on
the other side of the picture, complaints had been received from the
in usefulness and validity of the
banking fraternity about the decline
Board's statistics.

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Governor Robertson expressed the view that it was important to
have a record of this sort of complaint as well as the type mentioned
by Governor Mills.
After some further discussion, the letters to the Bureau of the
Budget and the Comptroller of the Currency were approved unanimously in
the form attached as Items

7

and

8.

It was understood that a copy of

the letter to the Comptroller would be sent to the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation.
Mr. McClintock then withdrew from the meeting and Mr. Hexter,
Assistant General Counsel, entered the room.
Payment of interest on "borrowed" funds (Item No. 9).

Pursuant

to the understanding at the Board meeting on February 17, 1964, a letter
was sent to the Presidents of all Federal Reserve Banks enclosing a copy
of a proposed reply to an inquiry from Wachovia Bank and Trust Company,
Winston-Salem, North Carolina, as to whether it would be permissible for
a member bank to "borrow" at an agreed rate of interest, from correspondent
banks and other depositors, by means of transfers from "deposits" to "bills
Payable", "borrowed money", or other similar liability account.
The inquiry from Wachovia described a procedure under which a
a certain
country bank requests its city correspondent to "invest for
weeks -- a specified
Period of time" -- overnight or for a few days or
Portion of the country bank's deposit balance with the city correspondent.
The city correspondent itself agrees to "borrow these funds ... at the

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Federal funds rate." The specified amount is thereupon transferred, on
the books of the city correspondent, from the deposit account to "bills
payable", and the country correspondent is paid interest thereon at the
current rate for Federal funds.
The Board's letter to the Reserve Banks pointed out the possibility
that the procedure described might have important implications with respect
to sound banking practice, the statutory prohibition against payment of
lity of reserve requirements,
interest on demand deposits, the applicabi
and the Federal funds market.

The letter requested comments on the pro-

posed reply, including views as to the nature and magnitude of the problems
presented and recommendations as to procedures for dealing with those
problems.
Prior to today's meeting there had been distributed a memorandum
from the Legal Division dated May 25, 1964, transmitting a summary of
the responses from the Reserve Banks to the Board's February 17 letter.
In view of the importance of the matter from the standpoint of bank
the proposed
supervision generally, the Legal Division recommended that
reply to the Wachovia inquiry be sent to the Comptroller of the Currency
and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation for comments.

A draft of

memorandum.
letter to the two agencies was attached to the
d the responses
At the Board's invitation, Mr. Sanders summarize
Of the Reserve Banks, his remarks being based mainly on information in
the attachment to the May 25 memorandum.

He noted that all of the Reserve

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Banks except St. Louis and Kansas City had agreed with the conclusion
reached by the Board's Legal Division that the transaction described by
Wachovia would not constitute the payment of interest on demand deposits
in violation of section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act and the Board's
Regulation Q.

Five of the ten Reserve Banks that had agreed with the

Legal Division conclusion favored publication of the Board's interpretation.
Mr. Solomon stated that, in general, he would not consider the
type of transaction under discussion to be sound; he would like to find
a way to discourage it if there was any feasible way of doing so since
he doubted that the prohibition against payment of interest on demand
deposits could be maintained if such transactions became general.
In the ensuing discussion, Mr. Hexter said that after careful
consideration of the matter the Legal Division was unable to find a
solution that would restrict the practice without virtually destroying
the Federal funds market.

As had been pointed out at the Board meeting

On February 17, 1964, the kind of transaction presented by Wachovia
seemed to be indistinguishable, on any clearly defensible ground, from
Permissible Federal funds transactions.
Governor Mills stated that he agreed regretfully with the conclusion that had been reached by the Legal Division, but he also agreed
with Mr. Solomon that some way should be found to discourage this type
of transaction.

He felt there should be an actual exchange of instru-

ments between the lender and borrower in the case of each transaction

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involving a transfer of a portion of a customer's deposit account to a
"borrowed money" account.

Otherwise, Governor Mills suspected that a

situation would develop where a bank depositor would tell his bank that
any time his deposits were in excess of a certain amount, he would lend
the excess to the bank at the Federal funds rate of interest. If the
Board were to prescribe that each such transaction be handled individually,
at least some restraint would be provided.
Governor Robertson said that he was disturbed about the transaction
Presented by Wachovia.

It appeared that the Board might be permitting a

practice where a bank would "borrow" from a correspondent and, instead
of calling the bank's obligation a deposit, it would be called a loan,
Which would not be subject to reserve requirements or to interest rate
limitations under Regulation Q.

Governor Robertson said he agreed with

the Legal Division's opinion regarding the transaction, but he thought
an attempt should be made to curtail such a transaction to the fullest
extent possible.

He concurred in the view expressed by Governor Mills

that the transaction should be evidenced by something more than a book
entry.
Governor Mills noted that before the officers of a bank could
borrow funds they would need to have some authorization.

Accordingly,

Lt would seem that supervisory examiners would be able to find in the
records of a bank some evidence of the authority to borrow funds in the
circumstances under consideration.

In his judgment, there should be some

instrument clearly executed in accordance with a duly approved resolution.

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As the discussion progressed, Governor Shepardson stated that
he was bothered by the possibility that the Board might be placed in
the position of trying to work with an unenforceable restriction.
Accordingly, he considered it important for the Board to explore what
its ultimate position would be before answering the question that had

been presented.
Mr. Hackley suggested that a paragraph might be added to the
Proposed response to the effect that, while the transactions described
did not violate section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act or Regulation Q,
it should be understood that whenever a transfer was made from a deposit
account to "bills payable" or similar account, statutes relating to
borrowing and lending would be applicable.

However, a question could

be raised as to the ways in which a "deposit" account differed significantly from a "borrowed money" account.

The Congress had prohibited

the payment of interest on demand deposits, but if a bank should choose
to cast a transaction in the form of a loan rather than a deposit, then
the customer from whom the money was borrowed could no longer draw checks
on the "borrowed" portion of his funds.

Mr. Hackley noted that there was

a limit on the amount of money a bank could borrow, and he wondered if
there was any real problem unless the practice were to develop to such
an extent that this sort of transaction was being used by banks generally
not as bona fide borrowing but as a device to evade provisions of Regulation Q.

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Governor Robertson commented that if the Board's reply to the
Wachovia inquiry were to include a reference to the statutory requirements that would be applicable with respect to the borrowing of funds,
that might discourage the practice to some extent.
At the conclusion of the discussion, it was understood that the
proposed reply to the Wachovia inquiry would be revised in line with
views expressed at this meeting and that copies would be sent to the
other Federal bank supervisory agencies for comments.

A copy of the

letter sent to the Comptroller of the Currency is attached as Item No.

9.

A similar letter was sent to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.
It was further understood that copies of the proposed letter
and of the letters to the two agencies would be sent to the General
Counsel of the Treasury Department as a matter of information, even
though the procedure outlined in the Secretary of the Treasury's letter
of March 3, 1964, did not appear to be applicable in this instance.
Messrs. Noyes, Schwartz, Hooff, Langham, and Sanders then withdrew from the meeting.
Request of Chairman Patman for supplemental information (Item
.__12).
B.2.

There had been distributed a draft of reply to Chairman Patman

Of the House Banking and Currency Committee in response to his letter of
April 20, 1964, in which information was requested that would supplement
material contained in the Board's 50th Annual Report to the Congress.

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Following discussion during which a number of changes in the
was
wording of the letter were suggested and agreed upon, the letter
approved unanimously in the form attached as Item No. 10.
Visit of Mr. Roth.

Mr. Farrell reported on arrangements that

had been made for Mr. Roth, Chairman of the Board of Franklin National
with members of the Board's
Bank, Franklin Square, New York, to meet
Board's denial of the bank's
staff on Thursday, May 28, to discuss the
carry country bank reserves followrequest for permission to continue to
ing establishment of a branch in New York City.

Several suggestions as

to the approach that the staff might follow in talking with Mr. Roth
were made.

It was understood that a report on the conference would be

furnished each member of the Board.
Reception for Reserve Bank representatives.

Mx. Sherman reported

son's approval, a telegram had
that on May 26, 1964, with Governor Shepard
Federal Reserve Banks and Vice Presidents
been sent to the Presidents of all
invitation to an informal reception in
in charge of branches extending an

the Board's dining rooms at 3:30 p.m. on Wednesday, June 3, for Reserve
American Institute of Banking Annual
Bank representatives attending the
ton.
Convention, to be held in Washing
ed that they were in agreement with
Members of the Board indicat
plans for the reception.
The meeting then adjourned.
Secretary's Note: Governor Shepardson approved
the
on behalf of the Board on May 26, 1964,
following items:

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Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco (attached Item
No. 11) approving the appointment of Jon E. Garcia as assistant examiner.
Memoranda from the Division of Personnel Administration recommending
the appointment of Bernice Bell and Joyce Matile as Clerk-Stenographers
in that Division, each with basic annual salary at the rate of $3,880,
effective the respective dates of entrance upon duty.

tett

Secreta

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS

Item No. 1
5/27/64

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL. CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

May 27, 1964.

Board of Directors,
Irving Trust Company,
New York, New York.
Gentlemen:
The Board of Governors of the Federal
Reserve System approves the establishment by
Irving Trust Company, New York, New York, of a
branch at 675 Third Avenue, Borough of Manhattan,
New York, New York, provided the branch is established within one year from the date of this
letter.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Karl E. Bakke
Karl E. Bakke,
Assistant Secretary.
(The letter to the Reserve Bank stated that the
Board also had approved a six-month extension
of the period allowed to establish the branch;
and that if an extension should be requested,
the procedure prescribed in the Board's letter
of November 9, 1962 (S-1846), should be followed.)

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Item No. 2
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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

soi9UV GOve„:,

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551

4'

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE

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TO THE BOARD

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May 27, 1964.

Board of Directors,
Bank of Delaware,
Wilmington, Delaware.
Gentlemen:
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System approves the establishment of a branch by Bank of
Delaware at the intersection of Chestnut Hill Road and
Route 273, White Clay Creek Hundred, New Castle County,
Delaware (site to be designated as 414 Christiana Road,
Newark P.O., Delaware), provided the branch is established
within one year from the date of this letter.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Karl E. Bakke
Karl E. Bakke,
Assistant Secretary.
(The letter to the Reserve Bank stated that the
Board also had approved a six-month extension
of the period allowed to establish the branch;
and that if an extension should be requested,
the procedure prescribed in the Board's letter
of November 90_962 (S-1846), should be followed.)

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Item No.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

3

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OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, O. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

May 27, 1964.

Board of Directors,
The Southwestern National Bank
of Oklahoma City,
6000 South Western Avenue,
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
Gentlemen:
With reference to your request submitted through
the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, the Board of
of Section 19 of the
Governors, acting under the provisions
to the Southwestern
sion
Federal Reserve Act, grants permis
in the same reserves
mainta
to
National Bank of Oklahoma City
ined by nonbe
mainta
to
ed
against deposits as are requir
it
date
the
opens for
of
as
reserve city banks, effective
business.
Your attention is called to the fact that such
by the Board of Governors.
permission is subject to revocation
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
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FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
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ADDRESS OFFICIAL.. CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

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May 27, 1964.

Board of Directors,
Chippewa Trust Company,
St. Louis, Missouri.
Gentlemen:
The Federal Reserve Bank of St.. Louis has forwarded to
the Board of Governors your letter dated May 6, 1964, together
With the accompanying resolution signifying your intention to
Withdraw from membership in the Federal Reserve System and
requesting waiver of the six-months' notice of such withdrawal.
In accordance with your request, the Board of Governors
waives the requirement of six-months' notice of withdrawal.
Upon surrender to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis of the
Federal Reserve Bank stock issued to your institution, such stock
Will be canceled and appropriate refund will be made thereon.
Under the provisions of Section 208.10(c) of the Board's
Regulation H, your institution may accomplish termination of
its membership at any time within eight months from the date the
notice of intention to withdraw from membership was given.
It is requested that the certificate of membership be
returned to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Karl E. Bakke
Karl E. Bakke,
Assistant Secretary.

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Item No.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

5

5/27/64

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL. CORRESPONDENCE
TO TNE BOARD

May 27, 1964.

The Honorable Joseph W. Barr, Chairman,
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation,
Washington, D. C. 20429
Dear Mr. Barr:
Reference is made to your letter of April 30, 1964,
concerning the application of Northtown Bank of Decatur, Decatur,
Illinois, for continuance of deposit insurance after withdrawal
from membership in the Federal Reserve System.
Since the examination of subject bank by the Federal
Reserve Bank of Chicago as of the close of business July 5 1960,
adequacy of the bank's capital has been considered less than
satisfactory in relation to the volume of risk assets held by
the bank. The Reserve Bank has regularly requested that action
be taken to improve the bank's capital position through the sale
of unspecified amounts of additional capital stock for cash.
There have been no other corrective programs urged
.
Upon the bank, or agreed to by it, which have not been fully
no
other
such
are
opinion,
there
Board's
the
in
consummated, and,
programs that it would be advisable to incorporate as conditions
of admitting the bank to membership in the Corporation as a
nonmember of the Federal Reserve System.
Very truly yours,

(Signed) Karl E. Bakke
Karl E. Bakke,
Assistant Secretary.

Item No.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

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OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON

OFFICE OF THE VICE CHAIRMAN

May 27, 1964.

Mr. Eugene H. Adams, President,
The First National Bank of Denver,
Denver 17, Colorado.
Dear Gene:
In the absence of Chairman Martin, I am taking the
g
liberty of acknowledging your letter of May 18, 1964, advisin
of your appointment by the President of the American Bankers
m that
Association as chairman of a commiLtee to study the proble
isory
superv
the
bank
between
ts
conflic
has arisen from current
agencies. Your letter will be brought to the Chairman's attento
tion upon his return, and I am sure that he would be happy
study.
your
with
tion
connec
in
him
visit
have your committee
Meantime, with the thought that it may be of some
some of
assistance, I am enclosing a memorandum that describes
cy and
Curren
of
the
ller
Comptro
the
the major conflicts between
.
months
ed
recent
during
develop
have
that
the Board of Governors
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with
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In addition, I assume that
that were held in May of last year by the House Committee on
5874, to
Banking and Currency with respect to the bill, H. R.
and
Martin
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Chairm
sion.
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establish a Federal Banking
dually
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and
Governors Robertson, Mills,
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at the hearings; and their statements before the Commit
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Bulletin,
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of
issue
reprinted in the May 1963
ed.
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one but
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import
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certainly one of the highes
sting.
will find it extremely intere
Sincerely yours,

(Signed) C. C. Balderston
C. Canby Balderston,
Vice Chairman.

Enclosures

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS

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OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, 0. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

May 27, 1964.

Mr. Raymond T. Bowman,
Assistant Director for
Statistical Standards,
Executive Office of the President,
Bureau of the Budget,
Washington, D. C. 20503
Dear Mr. Bowman:
The Board appreciates the concern for statistical cooperation
among the Federal bank supervisory agencies expressed in your letter
of May 15 and hopes that it will prove to be a stimulus to early resumption of the arrangements which prevailed for many years. The Board
suPports the Bureau's efforts to improve the Federal statistical
System; it has a strong interest in the adoption of a uniform call
report and the continuation of a cohesive and integrated banking
statistics program consistent with a minimum respondent burden.
The Board has been in communication with the other Federal
bank supervisory agencies specifically urging the adoption of a
compatible report form for the June call. You may be interested in
the enclosed copy of the Board's letter to the Comptroller of the
Currency, a copy of which also has been sent to the Chairman of the
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.
Compatibility in the report forms of the different agencies
is regarded as essential for an effective banking statistics program.
Beyond the question of the June reporting form, the Board is hopeful
that the agencies can arrive at some orderly means for considering and
reconciling various views toward improving the call report in the
kiture. In this connection, your offer of personal assistance in
leiPing to work out an appropriate program will be kept very much in
mind.
The Board's staff will continue to keep your Office advised
of developments in this area.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.
Eticlosure.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No.

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WASHINGTON
OFFICE OF THE VICE CHAIRMAN

May 27, 1964.

The Honorable James J. Saxon,
Comptroller of the Currency,
Washington, D. C. 20220
Dear Mr. Comptroller:
In the light of attention now focused on differences with
respect to condition report format and procedures, it seems desirable
to bend every effort to achieve some orderly means for considering
and reconciling our various views toward improving the call report.
At the same time, the Board believes it imperative to minimize the
problems posed for call report data collection in the interim.
The Budget Bureau's letter of May 15, 1964, to the heads of
the three Federal bank supervisory agencies and the President's
directives on the simplification of reports to the Government are
indications of a new and growing interest in coordinating this area
of Governmental activity. In the past, it has been possible to
accommodate individual needs through effective cooperation and
compromise among all the bank supervisory authorities. We should like
to see this cooperation continue, and we are prepared to extend our
own efforts in this direction.
You recognize, I am sure, that in such a spirit the Board
did not endeavor to argue against the abbreviated call report form for
March, even though the resulting incompatibilities necessitated the
development of some time-consuming and not entirely accurate estimation
procedures in order for the Board, the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation, and other agencies to be able to publish summary totals
for the banking system. We, for our part, recognize that your Office
has occasionally, as last December, submerged its own desires to the
needs for compatible statistical bench marks.
In the light of this experience, the Board suggests that the
mid -1964 call date is one for which full and compatible statistics are
Of unusual importance. Not only is the typical June 30 date a bench
mark for comparing a wide variety of midyear financial and nonfinancial
figures, but its importance as a bench mark this year is enhanced by
the absence of detail from the back of the reports submitted in March*

Should have read April

The Honorable James J. Saxon

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this year and last September, and the intramonth dating chosen for the
call last December. We therefore urge that your Office give serious
consideration to the distribution of a condition report form at the
forthcoming midyear call date that will contain a full front and back
and be compatible with the form to be distributed to State banks.
It is recognized that, because of operating difficulties and
time limitations arising from the necessity for the Board and the
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation to coordinate with State banking
departments, this may require postponement of some desired revisions in
the national bank report form. However, any such move on the part of
your Office to achieve compatibility in June will not prejudice the
mutual consideration of these revisions in the report form for later
calls. It is apparent to us that the substance of some of the innovations introduced in the national bank form recently merit adoption in
any uniform State-national report, and we believe this can be
accomplished without overburdening either national or State banks.
The representatives of the State banking departments have
already indicated a willingness to consider sympathetically any reasonable program on which the Federal agencies can agree in this area. We
share with you the desire that the Federal banking agencies should
continue to exercise initiative in this respect.
The three Federal agencies may have somewhat divergent
interests in the use of the condition report form, but there is also a
meet
dominant community of interests. Considerable latitude remains to
feel
We
form.
report
most legitimate interests in a single compatible
confident that, if the three agencies can achieve consistency for the
June call, we can thereafter manage to work out a compatible format for
the three classes of banks that would serve our individual needs for
supervisory and statistical information and also serve as a means of
appropriate disclosure to the public of the condition of individual
banks. In critical instances, the possibility of supplemental sample
reporting, discussed among our staffs, may well offer an avenue for
reducing respondent burdens. We shall be happy to discuss this subject
With you, or to have members of our staff work with yours, in an effort
to arrive at the goals indicated.
Sincerely yours,

•

)
)

C. Canby Balderston,
Vice Chairman.

Item No.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS

9

5/27/64

OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, O. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

May 28, 1964.

The Honorable James J. Saxon,
Comptroller of the Currency,
Treasury Department,
Washington, D. C. 20220
Dear Mr. Saxon:
A member State bank has inquired whether it is permissible
rate of interest from a
for a member bank to "borrow" at an agreed
from
"Deposits" to "Bills
transfers
of
means
correspondent bank, by
account.
liability
similar
a
or
payable", "Borrowed money",
The inquiry may have important implications with respect
of security to banks'
to sound banking practice (including the giving
of
payment
on demand
interest
against
creditors), the prohibition
the
Federal
To
and
funds
market.
deposits, reserve requirements,
this
of
ion
the
would
matter,
Board
considerat
assist in its further
appreciate receiving your comments and recommendations.
The enclosed draft of a proposed response may be of
assistance in your study of the question presented. The Board's staff
is available for discussion of the matter with representatives of your
Office.
The Board is also seeking the views of the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman

Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

Enclosure

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No. 10
5/27/64

WASHINGTON

UFFICE OF THE VICE CHAIRMAN

May 27, 1964.

The Honorable Wright Patman, Chairman,
Committee on Banking and Currency,
House of Representatives,
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Mr. Chairman:
In response to your inquiry of April 20, 1964, there are
enclosed herewith (a) a breakdown of the reimbursements received by
the Federal Reserve Banks during 1963 for the fiscal agendy function
and other expenses, and (b) a copy of the 1963 audit of accounts and
holdings of the System Open Market Portfolio by the Board's examiners.
You also asked whether if vault currency and coin had not
t
been allowed to be counted as part of member banks' reserves subsequen
by
have
the
not
purchases
would
System
market
to December 1959, open
been larger, with the result that the open market portfolio would have
been larger and the return to the Treasury in the form of interest
remittance somewhat larger.
It is true that if member banks had not been allowed to
count their vault cash as part of required reserves, beginning in
had to be provided by other
December 1959, more reserves would have
through
Federal
Reserve purchases of
being
ty
possibili
means—one
Open
Market
System
Account.
the
for
s
securitie
Government
The amount of such purchases that might have been required
found
cannot be estimated with exactitude. We know that member banks
it necessary, prior to being enabled to count their vault cash as
assets
reserves, to hold, on the average, around $2 billion of such
by seasons,
bly
figure
considera
varied
the
although
for operating needs,
open
that
approaching $2.5 billion in December. It may be assumed
market purchases of approximately this amount were rendered unnecessary
at the time vault cash began to be counted toward required reserves,
thus reducing to some extent interest "rebates" to the Treasury,
by the Congress in 1959 to
You will recall that the action
was taken for a
as
reserves
cash
vault
of
authorize the counting
number of reasons. The main purpose was to correct inequities in the
nts among banks, by
distribution of the burden of reserve requireme

The Honorable Wright Patman

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eliminating the necessity for "double holding" of nonearning Federal
Reserve liabilities by member banks, in one form to satisfy cash needs
and in another form to satisfy reserve requirements. Reduction in
Federal Reserve costs of shipping currency between member banks and
the Reserve Banks, and the desirability of larger supplies of currency
at member banks in case of a national emergency, were also factors.
d
the
A fuller exposition of these considerations was presente in
this
on
hearings
during
e
Committe
Board's testimony before your
legislation.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) C. C. Balderston

C. Canby Balderston,
Vice Chairman.
Enclosures.

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Item No. 11
5/27/64

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20551
ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

May 26, 1964.

CONFIDENTIAL (FR)
Mr. E. H. Galvin, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco,
San Francisco, California. 94120
Dear Mr. Galvin:
In accordance with the request contained in
Mr. Cavan's letter of May 19, 1964, the Board approves
the appointment of Jon E. Garcia as an assistant
examiner for the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco.
Please advise the effective date of the appointment.
It is noted that
The State National Bank of
located in Federal Reserve
he will not participate in

Mr. Garcia is indebted to
Wayne, Wayne, Nebraska,
District No. 10, but that
any examination of that bank.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Karl E. Bakke
Karl E. Bakke,
Assistant Secretary.