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Minutes of actions taken by the Board of Governors of the

Federal Reserve System on Monday, May 23, 1949.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

McCabe, Chairman
Eccles
Szymczak
Draper
Vardaman
Clayton
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Carpenter, Secretary
Sherman, Assistant Secretary
Morrill, Special Adviser
Thurston, Assistant to the Board

Minutes of actions taken by the Board of Governors of the
Federal
Reserve System on May 20, 1949, were approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated May 19, 1949, from Mr. Millard, Director
no

the Division of Examinations, recommending that, effective as of

the

date upon which he enters upon the performance of his duties af-

t." having passed the usual physical examination, Adrien P. Francoeur
he

Pointed as an Assistant Federal Reserve Examiner, with salary

"the rate of $3,351 per annum, and with official headquarters at
148`shi1lgton, D. C.
By unanimous vote, Mr. Adrien P.
Francoeur was appointed an examiner to
examine Federal Reserve Banks, member
banks of the Federal Reserve System, and
corporations operating under the provisions of sections 25 and 25(0 of the
Federal Reserve Act, for all purposes
of the Federal Reserve Act and of all
other acts of Congress pertaining to
examinations made by, for, or under the
direction of the Board of Governors of




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designated as an Assistant Federal Reserve Examiner, with official headquarters at Washington, D. C., and with
basic salary at the rate of 0,351 per
annum, all effective as of the date upon
which he enters upon the performance
of his duties.
Letter to Mr. Sheehan, Chief Examiner at the Federal Reserve

Of New York, reading as follows:
"Reference is made to your letter of May 17, 1949,
submitting the request of the 'Liberty Bank of Buffalo',
Buffalo, New York, for permission to establish a branch in
the Village of Williamsville, New York.
"It is noted that approval of the appropriate State
authorities has been obtained and in view of your recommendation, the Board of Governors approves the establishment
and operation of a branch in the Village of Williamsville,
Newyork, by the Liberty Bank of Buffalo, Buffalo, New
York, provided such branch is established within six months
from the date of this letter. It is understood that counsel for the Reserve Bank has reviewed and is satisfied as
to the legality of all steps taken to establish the branch
which are complete with the foregoing approval of the
Board.H
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the Honorable Lister Hill, United States Senate,
t4e4ding as follows:
"This is in response to your letter of May 7, 1949,
addressed to Chairman McCabe, enclosing a letter received
by you from Honorable John Brandon, State Treasurer of Alaregarding the question whether a bank may absorb the
expense of paying fees on postal money orders deposited
with the bank by the State Treasurer.
"It is understood that in some instances tax payers
have made remittances to the State Treasurer by means of
Postal money orders payable at post offices other than that
located in Montgomery, Alabama, and that under Postal Regulations the depositary bank is obliged to pay a fee in




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"Obtaining payment of such money orders at the Montgomery
Post Office. It is also understood that under Alabama law
a State depositary bank may not make any charge against the
State in connection with an account maintained with it by
the State Treasurer. However, the bank in question has advised the Treasurer that it is prohibited from absorbing
the expense here involved by provisions of this Board's
Regulation Q, but that it would be willing to absorb the
expense if the provisions of Regulation Q 'were lifted or
amended to permit them to do so.'
"In 1933 Congress amended the Federal Reserve Act by
Prohibiting any member bank from paying interest on demand
deposits, directly or indirectly by any device whatsoever,
and the Board was authorized to determine what shall be
deemed to be a payment of interest. Following the ordinary
meaning given the term by the courts, the Board has defined
'interest' in its Regulation Q as 'any payment to or for
the account of any depositor as compensation for the use
of funds constituting a deposit'.
.
"Some years ago the Board took the position in a specific case, after development of the facts by examination
of the member bank involved, that the absorption of exchange charges by the bank under the circumstances of that
case constituted a payment of interest in violation of the
law. Subsequently the Board advised all member banks that
such absorption would not constitute a violation of law if
the charges absorbed did not amount to more than $2 for
:11V one depositor in any calendar month and if the bank
keeps proper records of such transactions.
"The absorption by a member bank of the expense of
Paying fees charged for the payment of postal money orders
appears to be analogous to the absorption of exchange
Charges on checks. The question whether the absorption
of such fees is a payment of interest would depend on
whether the bank is absorbing them 'as compensation for
the use of funds constituting a deposit'. You will appreciate that the Board cannot advise definitely as to whether
the practice of any particular bank constitutes a violation
until it has all the facts, and these could be developed
adequately only through an examination. It is believed,
however, that what is said above will show the position of
the Board in this matter.
"The provision of Regulation Q in question was adopted
2111Y after prolonged and careful consideration. In the
-Light of the intention of the law, we do not believe that




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"it would be desirable to change the regulation so as to
permit banks to absorb charges as a means of compensating
depositors for the use of their funds.
"With respect to the suggestion made by Mr. Brandon
that the Post Office Department should amend its regulations
to eliminate payment of two fees on postal money orders,
we feel that it would be inappropriate for us to make any
comment. However, in this connection, it is our understanding that under Chapter XVI, paragraph 11 of the United
States Postal Guide, where out-of-town money orders are deposited in a bank, the bank is at liberty to send such orders to the post offices on which they are drawn and receive payment for the full amount of the orders by means
of a check drawn on the Treasurer of the United States.
-V4e do not know, of course, whether the depositary bank in
the present case would wish to collect out-of-town money
orders in this manner, but we mention it as a possibility
for consideration.
"If Mr. Brandon should have any further questions regarding any phase of this matter, it is suggested that he
maY wish to take them up with the Federal Reserve Bank of
Atlanta. Mr. Brandon's letter is returned to you herewith."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to the Presidents of all Federal Reserve Banks, reading
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follows:
"In reply to a recent inquiry concerning Regulation
14, the Board has issued the following interpretation.
"The Board has been asked whether certain schedules
of instalment payments covering the time balance arising
from instalment sales of listed articles are permitted by
Regulation II, particularly section 3(h) thereof. One payment, schedule calls for twelve monthly payments of $50
each, plus two so-called 'pick-up' payments of $25 each,
Payable, respectively, fifteen days before and fifteen days
after the due date of the first $50 payment. The other
Payment schedule is different in that it calls for only
°ne 'pick-up' payment of $1001 payable fifteen days after
the due date of the first of the twelve 60 instalment
Payments
"It will be noted that the above payment schedules stated to be for the purpose of strengthening the customer's




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manner - do not involve 'balloon' payments in the usual
sense, nor do the variations in time and amount of payments
cause or occur as significant irregularities throughout
the payment schedules. Additionally, the rate of payment
under the schedules is greater than required either by the
regulation or a schedule calling for only twelve monthly
Instalments.
"The Board is of the view that payments scheduled as
above would not be contrary to the regulation. As indicated at No. 320, Regulation 1/1 Service, section 3(b) clearly
authorizes a larger first instalment payment, followed by
smaller monthly instalments. In the light of the circumstances here related, the use of 'pick-up' payments such
as those in question is a reasonable application of that
Principle, These views, of course, mould apply also to
similar situations under section 4(c) of the regulation.
"The Board does not intend by the foregoing to indicate that the scheduling of 'pick-up' payments in any manner or in all situations would be permissible. Each case
must be considered individually in the light of the foregoing facts and circumstances."
Approved unanimously.
Telegram to the Presidents of all Federal Reserve Banks, read1r1g as follows:
"For your information one of the Federal Reserve Banks
has been advised that lump sum payments for accrued liabilltY under the amendments to rules and regulations of the
Retirement System of the Federal Reserve Banks, effective
ay 6, 1949, should be charged to profit and loss and will
be shown in Board's published statement as a deduction
from current net earnings against caption 'Retirement System (adjustment for revised benefits). 1”
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mrs. Valerie R. Frank, Secretary, Retirement Committee
Or

he

Retirement System of the Federal Reserve Banks, Federal Reserve

tahl,
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"Pursuant to the action of the Board of Governors on
M4y 6, 1949 with respect to supplementing the allowances
Of certain former employees retired under the Bank Plan
of the Retirement System of the Federal Reserve Banks the
Board authorizes the payment to the Retirement System of
the amount necessary to increase the allowances of the following nine annuitants in accordance with the formula prescribed in its letter S-1108:
Addie Burchard
Susan U. Snead
Mary S. Evans
Anna Kitzmiller
(Croxton)

John DeLaMater
George M. Ringen
0. B. Morrissette
William Dorsey
Courtney Bradley

"As requested in your letter of May 9, 1949, we are
returning the duplicate copy of the list of Board employees
Who are presently receiving retirement allowances under the
Bank Plan and have indicated which employees should have
their allowances supplemented.
"In the near future a check in the amount of $11,430.72
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will be mailed to you by the Fiscal Section of the Board."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. R. R. Gilbert, President of the Federal Reserve
Bani,

Of Dallas, reading as follows:
"deference is made to your letter of May 14, 1949, with
respect to an interpretation of the Board's letter dated
May 6, 1949, S-1108, authorizing the Federal Reserve Banks,
under certain conditions and subject to certain limitations,
to make supplemental contributions to the Retirement System
to provide increased retirement allowances for retired
members.
"The authorization provides in part that no allowance,
inclusive of any supplemental benefits previously provided,
shall be increased to an amount above that which would have
been payable as a retirement allowance if the person concerned had retired under the rules as amended effective
May 6, 1949. You advise that two members now on the retireInent rolls who were entitled to receive dismissal wages or
separation pay at the time of termination of service before
age 65, exercised the option of having these payments made
to the Retirement System for the purpose of increasing their




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"retirement allowances, and you feel the benefits provided
by these supplemental payments should be regarded as benefits provided with the members' own funds and therefore
excluded from the calculation of increased benefits that
these members are entitled to receive. It is understood
that you have some cases where employees retired under
comparable circumstances, took their dismissal wages or
separation pay in cash, and therefore such employees would
receive a greater increase in their retirement allowances
under the authorization than the employees who elected to
use the separation pay to supplement their retirement
allowances.
"In any case where an employee was given the option
of taking dismissal wages or separation pay in cash or of
using such funds to supplement his retirement allowance,
the Board will interpose no objection to excluding such
suPplemental benefits from the calculation of increased
benefits under the authorization contained in its letter
of May 6, 1949, S-1108.
"The last case mentioned in your letter refers to an
officer involuntarily retired before age 60, where a
supplemental contribution of 2,500 was made by the Bank to
the Aetirement System on his behalf, there being no option
to take a payment in cash, and you request that this payment be disregarded in computing the amount of his additional pension under current authority. On the basis of
the information which you submitted in this case, the Board
does not feel that it would be justified in disregarding
the supplemental payment previously made by your Bank."
Approved unanimously, together
with a letter transmitting this
advice to the Presidents of all other
Federal Reserve Banks.

APProved:




irrnan.