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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal
Reserve System was held in Washington on Friday, May 20, 1938,
at 11:00 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Davis
Draper

Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Betheap. Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Dreibelbis, Assistant General
Counsel
Mr. Bradley, Assistant Chief of the
Division of Security Loans
There were presented telegrams to Messrs. Kimball and
P°st, Secretaries of the Federal Reserve Banks of New York and
Philadelphia, respectively, Mr. Leach, President of the Federal
Reserve Bank of Richmond, and Messrs. Young and Sargent, Secretaries of the Federal Reserve Banks of Chicago and San Francisco,
resPecttvely, stating that the Board approves the establishment
without change by the Federal Reserve Banks of New York, Richmond,
Chicago and San Francisco on May 19, 1938, and by the Federal
Reserve Bank of Philadelphia today, of the rates of discount and
PlIrChase in their existing schedules.
Approved unanimously.
Prior to this meeting there had been sent to each member
t the Board a copy of a memorandum prepared under date of March




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21, 1938, by Mr. Dreibelbis summarizing the results of the surveys, wade by him in response to the Board's request of January
19, 1937, of the legal divisions of the Federal reserve banks.
The

general conclusion drawn by Mr. Dreibelbis from the surveys

was set forth in the memorandum as follows:
"The writer has had considerable difficulty in
crystalizing his own views in the matter. Furthermore, in arriving at a decision, he has probably
been influenced by existing situations and the same
considerations which he feels have influenced some
of the Presidents. In the light of his own experience both as a full-time employee and as an associate
and member of an outside firm representing a Federal
Reserve bank, it is his considered opinion that, as
a matter of fundamental principle, the best interests
of the Federal Reserve banks are probably served by
full-time resident counsel. At the same time, as
Pointed out, there are banks in the bystem where
replacement of the bank's present outside counsel,
would, at least for the immediate future, produce
inferior representation to that now being obtained.
Consequently, his opinion with respect to desirability of the general policy is qualified to the
e-"-tent that he believes that, in the absence of
Other considerations requiring immediate action,
it should be adopted as an ultimate objective, to
be put into practice as and when the occasion presented itself, rather than by precipitate action,
which in some cases might produce undesirable
results."
The consideration of the memorandum resulted in the
ellg&stions (1) that the Board now adopt a general policy along
the lines of th,, conclusion reached by Mr. Dreibelbis, (2) that
eh Federal reserve bank be advised that, before it makes any
e4lie in its present arrangement with respect to legal services,
it is ,
'asired that the Board be consulted, and (3) that My'.
eib




continue his study and submit a further memorandum to

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the Board with regard to the cost of legal services at the respective Federal reserve banks, the memorandum to be submitted
to the Personnel Committee for its use in making its recommendations to the Board.
Messrs. Morrill and Dreibelbis
were requested to prepare, for consideration by the Board, drafts of a
resolution and a letter to the Federal
reserve banks which would give effect
to the above suggestions.
Further reference was made to the memorandum prepared by
141'. Parry, Chief of the Division of Security Loans, under date
of March 31 1938, relating to the suggestion that Regulation U,
14ane 47 Banks for the Purpose of Purchasing or Carrying Stocks
Registered on a National Securities Exchange, be amended to pro'
ride for lower margin requirements on "amortized investment purchase loans".

The memorandum had been considered at the meetings

of the Board on April 22 and 23, 1938.

There was a discussion

°I' the advisability of requesting the comments of the Federal re"I've banks and the Securities and Exchange Commission on the
anlendment and the opinion was expressed that, until the members
the Board had formulated their own views as to its desirabilitY, it would be preferable to withhold making such a request
(If the Federal reserve banks. It was felt, however, that in the
nie44time it would be helpful to obtain the views of the Securities
LII(1 Exchange Commission for the assistance of the Board.




At the conclusion of the discussion
the Division of Security Loans was requested to prepare, for consideration by

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-4the Board, a draft of confidential letter
to the Securities and Exchange Commission
asking for an expression of the views of
the Commission with respect to the desirability of such an amendment.
Mr. Bradley left the meeting at this point.
There had been circulated among the members of the Board

Prior to this meeting a letter received under date of April 27,
19381

from Mr. Sproul, First Vice President of the Federal Reserve

Bank of New York, replying to the Board's letter of April 26, 19380
regarding
the service

of Mr. Norman P. Davis, Manager of the

Security Loans Department of the bank, as a member of the board
Of

education of the local school district at Pleasantville,

New York.

Mr. Sproul's letter stated that his letter of April

21, 1938 (which contained a suggestion of the directors of the
bank that it might be desirable for the Board to give consideration to issuing a general ruling which would permit officers
rIci employees of the Federal reserve banks to serve as members
Of school boards and boards of education), was perhaps not entirely clear; that it was contemplated by the directors of the
bank that such service would be passed upon in each case by the
senior officers and board of directors; and that it was the
tb°ught of the directors that the Board of Governors might consider issuing a ruling which would permit the final responsibility in such cases to rest with the board of directors of each




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Federal reserve bank who would consider each case arising at
the bank upon its merits.
The suggestion was referred to the
Personnel Committee for study and recommendation to the Board.
Mr. Ransom moved that St. George
Holden, whose term as a Class C director
of the Federal Reserve Bank of San
Francisco will expire on December 31,
1940, be appointed Deputy Chairman of
the bank for the remainder of the current year.
Mr. Ransom's motion was put by the
chair and carried unanimously.
At this point Messrs. Thurston, Wyatt and Dreibelbis left
the meeting and consideration was then given to each of the matters
hereinafter referred to and the action stated with respect thereto was
taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of
the Federal Reserve System held on May 17, 1938, were approved
un
animously.
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of
the Federal
Reserve System and the Federal Advisory Council held
°A MaY 17, 1938, were approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated May 17, 1938, from Mr. Paulger, Chief
°I the Division of Examinations, recommending that, for the reas°4 stated in the memorandum, Mr. Edward S. Myers, a clerkSten

ographer in the Division, be transferred from the office to

tile road force with the title of Assistant Federal Reserve




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miner, with official headquarters at ';iashington, D. C., and with
nc change in his present salary at the rate of :ii,2,100 per annum, effective at the opening of business on May 20, 1938.
In accordance with the above recommendation Mr. Myers was appointed an
examiner for all purposes of the Federal
Reserve Act, as amended, and of all other
acts of Congress pertaining to examinations made by, for, or under the direction
of the Board of Governors of the Federal
Reserve System, was designated as an
Assistant Federal Reserve Examiner, with
no change in his present salary at the
rate of :2,100 per annum, and his transfer to the road force was approved,all
effective at the opening of business on
May 20, 1938.
Letter to Mr. Sargent, Vice President of the Federal Reserve

taw
(

Of San Francisco, reading as follows:

"Reference is made to your letter of March 15, 1936
enclosing a copy of a letter which your bank addressed on
March 14 to the Los Angeles office of the California Security Dealers' Association in reply to a number of questions concerning revised Regulation T. Your letter states
that you would appreciate, with respect to your answers to
these questions, either an expression of the Board's apPr°val or advice from the Board with respect to corrections
which should be made.
"The questions presented have been examined, and the
auswers which you have made to them have been carefully
studied. It appears from this study that in all instances,
eXcept as noted below, the answer is one to which the Board
need take no exception.
"Question 3, which relates to an assumed case in which
a customer has bought securities in a special cash account,
Pears to contain a certain questionable implication,
Ch appears to have been carried forward into the answer.
"a implication is that in any case in which the customer,
'
l eEardless of accompanying circumstances, is permitted to
settle for the purchase of given securities in the special
cash account by using within the specified period the

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"proceeds of sale of other securities sold in the account,
the broker or dealer has complied with the relevant provisions of the regulation. This implication is one which the
Board could not endorse without qualification, since the
application of the regulation to any given case might depend on the circumstances of the case, particularly circumstances bearing on the good faith of the creditor or
that of his customer.
"It is noted that the last paragraph of your letter
Of March 14, 1938 to your Los Angeles correspondent, contains the following statements: 'A copy of this letter is
being sent to the Board of Governors for any comment they
may care to make. We shall be glad to pass on to you the
content of any such comment insofar as it may alter the
?Pinions expressed in this letter.' In this particular
instance, this procedure seems likely to prove satisfactory,
since it appears that none of the answers reviewed requires
Fubstantial alteration. As a general rule, however, it
is believed that such statements should be avoided, since
they go beyond the necessities of the situation and seem
to commit the Board by indirection to endorsing the precise language of answers which the Board might prefer to
give in a somewhat different way, or to answering questions
wnich the Board might prefer to have stated more clearly
or supported by more information. It is suggested, thereOre, that your bank follow in such cases the practice
that prevails at certain other Federal Reserve banks,
?tating merely that the answers express the view of the
1°a!ok or of the officer signing the letter, unless the
Point has been precisely covered by a ruling or other
edvice from the Board. This practice appears to have
served the purpose, in the usual case, of giving the corl-sPondent as much assurance as he wants, and at the same
j
°1.e of permitting the Reserve bank, in any case in which
t4le bank wishes advice from the Board for its own guidance,
t? submit the question to the Board, rephrasing the ques2" if necessary to put it in proper form for such sublalssione n

j

Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Hill, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
°t

ulladelphia,
reading as follows:
ci

"This refers to your letter of May 2, 1938, and in-4res, requesting a ruling of the Board as to whether




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"the acquisition by the City National Bank and Trust ComPany of Salem, Salem, New Jersey, as trustee, of an obligation of the President of such bank falls within the
Provisions of section 22(g) of the Federal Reserve Act
and the Board's Regulation 0. In your supplemental letter of May 9, 1938, with regard to this question, you
state that the President of the City National Bank and
Trust Company of Salem gave his demand note dated November
14. 1930, in the amount of 1 5,000, to an individual; that
the Payee of the note died on June 11, 1933; that the
bank qualified as executor of the payee's estate on Tune
22, 1933; and that the bank became trustee of such estate
on November 26, 1934, and is still serving in such capacity. You also state that such note has not been renewed
or reduced since the original date.
"It appears that the bank acquired the obligation
Of its executive officer as trustee subsequent to June
16. 1933, but prior to August 23, 1935, at which time
the statute in question provided a criminal penalty for
a violation thereof. Therefore, the question whether a
violation of such section is involved would depend upon
the provisions of such section prior to the amendment
°2 August 23, 1935. As stated in the Board's letter of
J.anuary 16, 1936 (X-9449), any such violation is still
subject to the criminal penalties and the determination of such question is a matter within the jurisdiction of the Department of Justice. As you know, the
Board does not undertake to express opinions on apparent
violations of criminal statutes. For your information,
however, if the bank had acquired the note as trustee
in the manner stated above after August 23, 1935, the
Board would not interpose an objection to the transaction.
"The question whether, aside from the provisions
°f section 22(g) of the Federal Reserve Act and Regulation 0, the note has been properly retained as an
asset of the trust depends upon factors of which we are
not fully advised and this letter should not be considered an expression of opinion on this point."
Approved unanimously.
Letter dated May 18, 1938, to the Presidents

of all

Feder
el reserve banks, except Dallas and San Francisco, (copies




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being sent to these two banks for their information only) reading as follows:
"At most of the Federal Reserve banks there
are arrangements approved by the Board of Governors
Whereby small, personal loans may be made to employees in meritorious cases at reasonable rates of
interest. These arrangements have been made at
various times and under varying circumstances. Consequently, no uniformity exists among the banks as
to how, if at all, funds available for such loans
and the loans made therefrom are reflected in assets
and liabilities as reported on Form 34 and as to
whether earnings and losses on loans to employees
are currently reported on Form 95 and Form B-9,
respectively.
'It is believed that uniformity of accounting
in this connection is desirable, and there is suggested for your consideration an arrangement under
Which loans to employees, upon proper authorization
and within limits approved by the Board as to the
aggregate amount of such loans outstanding at any
one time, would be made from regular bank funds
and reported on Form 34 in the item 'Sundry items
receivable'. Earnings on such loans would be included currently on Form 95 in 'Al].other' earnings, and any losses reported in the monthly statement of profit and loss items, Form B-9.
"It will be appreciated if you will advise
the Board whether you see any objections to the
4dopti0n at your bank of the arrangements and accounting procedure outlined above for handling
loans to employees."
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated May 19, 1938, from Mr. Vest, Assistant
General Counsel, recommending that there be published in the
julle issue of the Federal Reserve Bulletin statements in the
attached to the memorandum with respect to the recent
thlerldraent to Section 22(g) of the Federal Reserve Act and with
l'esPect to the Board's recent rulings on the following subjects:




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-10Directors' Review of Actions of Trust
Department Committees of National Bank;
Nature of Trust Investment Committee
Minutes.
Approval of Acceptance of Trusts by
National Bank.
Renewal or Extension of Loans Made to
an Executive Officer of a Member Bank.
Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.