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Minutes for

To:

May 15, 1961

Members of the Board

From: Office of the Secretary

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
With respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial below.
If you were present at the meeting, your initials will
indicate approval of the minutes. If you were not present,
Your initials will indicate only that you have seen the
minutes.




Chin. Martin
Gov. Szymczak
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King

Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

on Monday, May 15, 1961. The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.
PREsENT: Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
King
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Shay, Legislative Counsel
Molony, Assistant to the Board
Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Hackley, General Counsel
Noyes, Director, Division of Research
and Statistics
Farrell, Director, Division of Bank Operations
Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Johnson, Director, Division of Personnel
Administration
Hooff, Assistant General Counsel
Koch, Adviser, Division of Research and
Statistics
Furth, Adviser, Division of International
Finance
Sammons, Adviser, Division of International
Finance
Daniels, Assistant Director, Division of
Bank Operations
Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations

Items circulated to the Board.

The following items, which had

been circulated to the members of the Board and copies of which are
8:ttached to these minutes under the respective item numbers indicated,
%lere aPproved unanimously:
Item No.
tett-er to
the Comptroller of the Currency recome4ding that action on an application to organize
plytional bank in the Lake Shore area, Duval County,
th Isida, be deferred pending a final decision as to
'
e establishment of Lake Shore Atlantic Bank.




1

5/15/61

-2Item No.

Letter to Farmers and Merchants Bank, Huron,
South Dakota, approving an extension of time
to establish a branch at Hitchcock.

2

Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
aPProving a revision of the salary structure at
each of the Bank's offices.

3

Report on competitive factors (Winchester, Kentucky).

There

had, been distributed copies of a report to the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation on the competitive factors involved in a proposed merger of
the Commercial Bank and the Peoples State Bank and Trust Company, both
or Winchester, Kentucky.
The report, which contained the following conclusion, was approved
Un
animously:
The proposed merger of Commercial Bank, Winchester,
Kentucky, with Peoples State Bank and Trust Company, Winchester, Kentucky, could stimulate competition in Winchester.
It would eliminate little competition, as little exists
between these two commonly owned institutions.
Mr. Hooff then withdrew and Mr. Thomas, Adviser to the Board,
entered the room.
Request of Marine Midland for oral presentation.

On March 27,

1961) the Board disapproved the proposed merger of First National Bank

arla Trust

Company of Ithaca, Ithaca, New York, into the Marine Midland

Truat Company of Southern New York, Elmira, New York.

By letter dated

17, 1961, the participating banks submitted additional information,
Nuested reconsideration of the proposal, and requested an opportunity




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to make an oral presentation before the Board.
at the Board meeting on May

The matter was discussed

4, 1961, but action was deferred in order to

Check on whether Chairman Martin had mentioned to the Board at some
Point a conversation with representatives of the participating banks
Or other parties that would be pertinent to the decision.

However, a

subsequent review by the Secretary of the Board failed to disclose any
reference
in the minutes or related records to a report on such a
conversation.
Chairman Martin stated that he did not recall having had any
c°11versation that would be relevant to the Board's consideration of the
leqUest, nor did a review of his records disclose any notation of such
'
a conversation.
At the Chairman's suggestion, it was then agreed to defer further
c°11sideration of the request for oral presentation.
H.R. 6900.

At the Board meeting on May 11, 1961, there was

Pl'eliminary discussion of H.R. 6900, a bill introduced by Congressman
Mtater that would eliminate the gold reserve requirements against Federal
Reserve Bank note and deposit liabilities and also would remove the
ceiling on rates of interest payable by American banks on time deposits
Of

f0re1gn governments and central banks.

In view of a request that

Chairlcan Martin testify on this bill before a Subcommittee of the House

1144king and Currency Committee on Thursday, May 18, a draft of possible
statement for use in that connection had been distributed to the members




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of the Board.

The position taken in the proposed statement was favorable

to enactment of the bill.
Governor Mills commented that if the approach taken in the
Proposed statement should be adopted by the Board, he hoped the statement would be amended so as not to indicate that the Board favored,
Without any dissent, the enactment of this legislation.

In explanation

of his
own position, Governor Mills then read the following statement:
In my opinion, the provisions of H.R. 6900 relating to the
elimination of the gold reserve requirements behind the outstanding Federal Reserve notes and deposits of the Federal Reserve
Banks are unsound and should be opposed both within and without
the Federal Reserve System. In setting out the objections to the
Proposed legislation, attention must be paid to the purposes for
Which the existing legislation stands and a careful distinction
made between those purposes and the fallacy of ignoring their
contribution to the principles of sound money with the aim of
creating a panacea to the unrelated United States balance of payments problem.
The existing statutory gold reserve requirements were
intended to and do act as a disciplinary control over the conduct
of monetary and credit policies by setting up a legislative barrier
4gainst the overexpansion of credit, which can only be breached in
an emergency by temporary suspensions of the law. Public notice
°f such suspensions would, in turn, focus attention on the need
f°r corrective policies and rally public opinion in their support.
The heavy and increasing burden of public and private debt that
18 superimposed on our national gold reserves is eloquent testimony
cd‘ the necessity for retaining statutory safeguards against the
overexpansion of credit and not relying solely upon the vagaries
clf human judgments susceptible to theoretical considerations and
exposed to the pressures of political exigencies to preserve the
qualities of a sound dollar that will inspire confidence, both
!It home and abroad. For these reasons alone the proposed amendment
-co the Federal Reserve Act should be rejected by the Congress.
To urge passage of the bill on the grounds that international
confidence in the United States dollar would be strengthened by
owledge that this country's entire gold reserves stood freely
'ehind our determination against its devaluation, is unsound. The




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fact that the outflow of gold from the United States has been
stemmed, and that the time is therefore propitious to eliminate
the statutory gold reserve requirements because foreign observers
would regard such action as being in the interest of international
financial solidarity, and not as a sign of weakness, are not valid
arguments for the measure. On the contrary, it is the more likely
that foreigners would look at elimination of the gold reserve
requirements as a surrender of monetary prudence to the unfettered
hands of those responsible for the administration of monetary and
credit policy in the United States. Statutory adoption of a
Purely managed money in the United States through enactment of
the proposed bill would, in all probability, shake confidence in
the United States dollar as the key currency in the international
exchanges and prompt the renewal of a further outflow of gold from
this country. The balance of payments problems of the United
States should be resolved in the rightful sphere of appropriate
restraints over our foreign aid programs, guidance to the flow of
capital into investments abroad, and international cooperation in
distributing the burden of aid to underdeveloped countries.
The reasons for which the statutory gold reserve requirements
were enacted stand for good legislation, and tinkering with what
amounts to the soundness of the dollar should be resolutely opposed
by the Federal Reserve System.
In the discussion that ensued, Chairman Martin commented that he

had not yet had an opportunity to become thoroughly conversant on all
.Spects of the matter.

He indicated, however, that in his judgment the

t111

ing of the legislative proposal to eliminate the gold cover was

inaPpropriate •

At the same time, he found it difficult to take issue

%zith the provisions of the bill on purely technical grounds. With respect
to the
draft statement that had been distributed, Chairman Martin referred
to several places at which he would suggest that the tone of the document
he Modified.

He agreed with the comment by Governor Mills that the state-

should include some reference to the existence of a difference of
°Plaion.




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5/61

-6Chairman Martin then commented further on the reasons for his

view that the timing of the proposed legislation was inappropriate, and
04 the results that might flow from extended debate concerning the
Proposal.

Among other things, he pointed out that if such debate occurred

aria the proposal were defeated, the net effect might be simply to
emphasize the limitations of the current statutory requirements.

After

making certain general observations in the light of impressions gained
(14ring his trip to Europe, from which he returned late last week, the
Chairman stated that he would like to give further study to the bill,
recognizing that according to the current schedule it would be necessary
to be ready to testify before the Subcommittee on Thursday.

In the

eirettmstances, he suggested that work go forward on a revised draft of
statement in the light of such suggestions as might be transmitted to
the'staff, including the suggestions that he had just made.
The Chairman also noted that a meeting of the Board with the
l'scleral Advisory Council was to be held tomorrow, and there was agreement
141th his suggestion that the views of the Council be requested.
Chairman Martin then turned to Governor Balderston, who commented
l'ith regard to developments subsequent to the introduction of the bill
04 may 9
• Governor Balderston went on to say that although this might
ti°t be a proposal that the Federal Reserve would have chosen to initiate
'
Elt this time, nevertheless hearings on the bill had been scheduled and
the
l'oard would have to take a position. If hearings were held, it




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seemed desirable to him that the debate be as brief as possible in view
of the unfortunate results that might emanate from prolonged discussion.
Governor Robertson stated that, like the Chairman, he was
concerned about the timing of the proposal.

On the other hand, he

doubted whether there would ever be a time that would be entirely
satisfactory.

His own position was generally in accord with that

exPressed in the draft statement, although he would not object to
r'svisions of the kind that the Chairman had suggested.

Basically, as

he saw it, the view that the present gold reserve requirements were
needed as a support for monetary policy was fallacious; a managed
elarrency actliklly had been in existence for some time and the gold
l'eserve requirements were not necessary.

It might have been preferable

tO take the proposed step at some time in the future when there would
be less danger of an adverse psychological impact. However, in the
131"esent circumstances he considered it advisable to stress the position

that

prudence could be exercised in respect to monetary affairs without

the existence of the current statutory provisions. He also made the
e°12atlerit that if these requirements continued in effect and circumstances

st*Uld develop in which it became necessary to suspend them or to change

the law) that combination of events would in his view be undesirable.
As to the provisions of the bill relating to interest on time
415°Bit8 of foreign governments and central banks, Governor Robertson
4°ted that he had heretofore expressed himself adversely with respect
t° such legislation.




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-8Governor Shepardson commented that from a technical standpoint

he felt the draft statement could be justified.

However, he would

concur in modifications along the lines suggested by Chairman Martin.
The essential factor, he pointed out

was whether or not the country

'wanted to face up to the fundamental problem of protecting the dollar.
This involved considerations entirely separate from the maintenance of
the gold reserve requirements, which were merely a symbol.
There followed a general discussion which touched upon the value
that might be ascribed to symbols such as the gold cover, along with
the manner in which the Board's position might most appropriately be
expressed in testimony on the proposed legislation.
During this discussion Governor King noted that he had expressed
Ilimself on the matter at the May 11 meeting.

He went on to say that

although he placed little reliance in symbols, he realized that many
People

were inclined to do so.

As he saw it, the existence of such

sYalbols had a tendency to build up a false sense of values; they
",
ear,
-,kraged the public to believe that all was well even if it was not.
Thu
a: their preservation, if it led to a false sense of security, might
riot
serve the best interests of the country.

Governor Balderston also made certain comments additional to
th°se he had expressed previously.

These comments were to the general

errect that inasmuch as the Multer bill had been introduced, perhaps the
111°8t constructive posture that the Federal Reserve could adopt would be




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to emphasize that the ultimate safeguard to the currency was prudence
in the handling of monetary and fiscal affairs.

He felt there was a

question whether this was the most advantageous occasion for the Federal
Reserve to take a strong stand.

Like Governor Robertson, he was uncertain

'whether this would prove to be a reasonably good time for enactment of
the proposed legislation or whether the timing would prove decidedly
disadvantageous.
There followed further discussion bearing upon the form and tenor
°f the statement to be presented, and it was indicated that a number of
elaggestions had been or would be transmitted direct to the members of
the staff engaged in the preparation of a revised draft.

Accordingly,

it lias understood that a revised draft would be made available for the
Board's consideration on Wednesday, May 17.
All of the members of the staff except Mr. Johnson then withdrew
from the
meeting.
Request for services of Mr. Bangs.
that

Governor Shepardson reported

a request had been received from the International Cooperation

Adzi
nistration for the services of Robert B. Bangs, Senior Economist in
the tivision of Research and Statistics, for a period of not to exceed
9° daYs.

Under the terms of this request, Mr. Bangs would serve as an

141111ser to the United States Operations Mission in Costa Rica, effective
Q4 the beginning date of the detail.

The Board would be reimbursed by

Ile In
ternational Cooperation Aaministration for Mt. Bangs' salary at the




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present annual rate of $14,380, and likewise for contributions made by
the Board on Mr. Bangs' behalf to the Civil Service Retirement System,
the Federal employees' group life insurance program, and the Federal
ell1Ployees' health benefits insurance program during the period of Mr.
Bangs' assignment.
After discussion, it was understood that Governor Shepardson would
aPProve the request on behalf of the Board.

The meeting then adjourned.




Secretary's Note: Pursuant to the recommendation contained in a memorandum from the
Division of Administrative Services, Governor
Shepardson today approved on behalf of the
Board an increase in the basic annual salary
of Edward Cross, Photographer (Offset) in that
Division, from $5,741 to *5,970, effective May
15, 1961.

Assistant Secretary

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No. 1
5/15/61

WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

ADDRESS orrictAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

May 15, 1961
Comptroller of the Currenc
y,
Treasury Department,
Nashington
25, D. C.
Attention:

Mr. W. M. Taylor,
Deputy Comptroller of the Currency.

Dear Mr. Comptroller:
Reference is made to a letter from your office dated January 19,
1961
till_ 3 enclosing copies of an application to organiz
e a national bank in
Lake Shore area Duval County, Florida, and request
ing a recommendation
a8 to whether or not the application should be approve
d.
A report of investigation of the application made by an examiner
r()r the
Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta indicates that earnings prospects
;
:
!
13 favorable, management acceptable, and
that a fair degree of need exists
a bank in the area.
The proposed capital structure appears somewhat
?relation to the volume of busines
s possible, and it would seem that
P tal of not less than $500,000 should be provided.
The Florida State Banking Department on March 10, 19611 granted
take s
the ,hore Atlantic Bank a charter. This application had been on file with
Department since June 27, 1955, and the proposed bank is to be
locatte
Ladt e. about 1-1/2 miles south of the proposed Florida National Bank of
Pede
:
- 1101"e• The State charter was granted provided the bank obtained
tor 'al deposit insurance and the Board of Governo
rs granted permission
tlantie Trust Company, a registered bank holding company, to purchase
stocLI- in the bank.
In view of the circumstances involving Lake Shore Atlantic Bank
arid 34
the 8'noe it appears possible there is need for only one
bank in the area,
cllart°ard of Governors recommends that action on the application
for a
licR1.17 for a national bank in the Lake. Shore area, Duval County, Florida,
gardk`t be deferred until such
time as final decisions have been made rethe Lake Shore Atlantic Bank.
4peq,

The Board's Division of Examinations will be glad to discuss any
of this case with representatives of your office if you so
desire.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael)
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, O. C.
AODRESS

Item No. 2
5/15/61
rsciAL CORREOPONOENCC
TO THE BOARD

May 15, 1961

Board of Directors,
Farmers and Merchants Bank
Huron, South Dakota.

Gentlemen;
quest submitted through the
Pursuant to your
Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, the Board of Governors
Of the Federal Reserve System extends until December 7,
1961, the time within which Farmers and Merchants Bank,
Huron, South Dakota, may establish a branch at Hitchcock,
South Dakota, under the authorization contained in the
Board's letter of December 7, 1960.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

Item No. 3

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

5/15/61

WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

May 15, 1961

CCNFIDENTIAL (FR)
11r. Delos C.
Johns, President,
Pedern
"I- Reserve Bank of St. Louis,
Louis 66, Missouri.
Dee'r Mr. Johns:
Reference is made to Mr. Francisl letter of April 13, 1961
Ili.
i 111lich Your Bank requested approval of upward adjustments in salary
8'411ctures at each of your offices.
The Board approves the following minimum and maximum salaries
4
r 1,'_the respective grades at the various offices in your District,
-,ective July 1, 1961.
Grad

1
2

3

4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14

ls
16

Memphis
Louisville
Little Rock
„ St. Louis
'
4inimum Maximum Minimum raximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum
$ 2,280 $ 3,060 $2,100 $ 2,820 $2,160 $ 2,880 $2,100 $ 2,820
2,640 3,540 2,220 2,940 2,460 3,300 2,220 2,940

2,760
3,000

3,720
4,o8o

3,300 4,44o
3,600 4,86o
3,960 5,340
4,38o 5,880
4,800 6,500
5,40o 7,260
6,000 8,100
6,660 9,000
7,40o 10,000

8,260 11,100
9,2oo 12,400
10,240 13,800




3,180

2,640

3,540

2,340

3,180

2,880
3,180

3,480
3,900
4,300

2,880
3,180
3,480

3,840
4,260
4,700

2,640
3,000
3,300

3,540

4,800

3,840

5,200

3,720

3,960 .5,30o
4,380 5,880
4,800 6,500

4,260
4,680
5,100

5,720
6,300
6,900
7,600
8,400

4,140
4,56o
5,040
5,580
6,180

3,600
14,o8o
4,500
5,040
5,580
6,180
6,800
7,500
8,340

2,340
2,580

5,340

7,200

51640

5,940

8,000

6,200

6,6po 8,940
7,44o lo,o8o
8,400 11,340
9,400 12,700

6,960 9,400
7,800 10,500
8,760 11,820
9,800 13,200

6,900 9,300
7,700 lo,4o0
8,600 11,640
9,600 13,000

16c
Mr. Delos C. Johns

-2.

The Board approves the payment of salaries to the employees,
other than officers, within the limits specified for the grades in
which the positions of the respective employees are classified. It
is assumed that all employees whose salaries are below the minimum of
:their respective grades as a result of the structure increase will be
brought within the appropriate range as soon as practicable and not
later than October 1, 1961.
It is noted that while no explicit provision was made in
the budget to cover increased expenses arising in these salary strucures, you anticipate total salaries paid for the year 1961 will approximate budget provisions.




Very truly yours,

(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon
Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.