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1371
A meeting of the Federal Reserve Board was held in Washington
()114°1415 Y, May
14, 1934, at 10:30 a. m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Black, Governor
Hamlin
James
Thomas
Szymczak

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Morrill, Secretary
Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Martin, Assistant to the Governor
Paulger, Chief of the Division of
Examinations
Smead, Chief of the Division of
Bank Operations
Goldenweiser, Director of the Division
of Research and Statistics
Wyatt, General Counsel
Vest, Assistant Counsel
Boatwright, Assistant Counsel

The Board
considered and acted upon the following matters:
elegl-am dated May 14, 1934, from
Mr. Walsh, Chairman of the
Niertali
bottr
()serve Barik
of Dallas, advising that, at a meeting of the
clot'
directors
today, no change was made in the bank's existing
ech
Of
rates of
discount and purchase.
Without objection, noted with approval.
tIle :171cTandalm dated
May 11, 1934, from Mr. Goldenweiser, Director
ti04
M31021 of
Research and Statistics, transmitting the resigna
,
(1141"
kek recortne tlizabeth M. Barcalow as a stenographer in the division
erem
ndille that in
accordance with the usual practice Where
'
k"Yees
thirty
-76 worked
for three years or longer, Miss Barcalow be granted
cia‘Ya
e of
absence with pay, and that her resignation be




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5/14/34
accepted as of the close of business on July 31,
1934.
Approved.
Memorandum dated May 11, 1934, from Mr. Paulger, Chief of the
_
"n of Examinations, recommending a change in the title of Mr. W. D.

111 s4

from

assistant Federal reserve examiner to Federal reserve examiner,

811d that his
salary be increased from the rate of $3,800 to the rate of
14$200
Per annum, both
effective May 16, 1934.
Approved.
Telegram to
Mr. Stevens, Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Re-

serve 13
ank of Chicago,
reading as follows:
y
Fi°ling s telegram May eleventh. Board approves designa; °11 of John Shinn as assistant examiner in Federal Reserve
entis depart-nent your bank without change in compensation.
f(gs! advise
effective date and salary rate and furnish in0(....nit requested in Board's letter September 20, 1
).

g

Approved.
Letter dated May
12, 1934, approved by six members of the Board, to
111's ksti,
Pederal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve Bank of Phila(10_131,11._
'1., reading
as follows:
th,
;eference is made to the report of examination of the Lock
,
Lock Haven, Pennsylvania, as of December
che e1 e supplementary information submitted in connection
um,
CcimPanY'
araot
'
4e report
of examination indicates that estimated losses
!? $70,690, including $23,345 on account of securities,
ti
Q14,06renaining depreciation in securities amounted to
raonth 1°
' The report of arnings and dividends for the six
;
I)erios
a tilp„eriod ending December 30, 1933, shows that during the
'-ear),S) L?
, bank charged off $11,501 on account of losses in
;""'529 on account of losses and depreciation in se-and
1tie-' and $1,564 on account of losses in other assets,




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5114/34'
-3"that the amount of unallocated charge-off on account of securities was reduced by
$54,785, which amount was credited to unaivided profits.
"As indicated in the Board's 1et:6rr of April 6, 1934,
;C-7848, the Board has consistently maintained the position that
losses as classified by 1:Le eyaminer should be charged off or
°therwise eliminated from the assets of the bank, and it is
requested that you endeavor to obtain such action
by the Lock
Raven Trust
Company. In the interests of cooperation, it may
be
advisable to take this matter up first with the aporopriate
State
authorities. The Board's views with respect to the minimum amount of depreciation in securities to be eliminated followthe examination of State member banks are also expressed in
its letter
X-7848.
"It has been noted that on the date of examination the bank
had reserves
of $68,000 for losses and depreciation. The Board.
ttt estimated losses and depreciation listed for eliminare
iZila
not been nronerly eliminated by the setting up of
i”erves which are included with the bank's capital accounts in
5.1;8 Published
statements. Such reserves should be used either
or Taking charge-offs of the estimated losses and depreciation
treated as valuation reserves and deducted from the assets
stt"st which
they are allocated, showing only the net amount of
10,
-- assets in the published statement. If any reserves for
se,7„es are shown -,mong the capital accounts they should repre.00;40-I-locations of surplus and/or undivided profits to cover
tru_
or potential losses; or, in other words, represent
for contingencies'.
'reserves"The
of
The report
reflects several violations of the conditions
resetbershi,
I- and provisions of the Federal Reserve Act with
ti4ec to the maintenance of adeauate credit data in connecof
th all unsecured loans; to the disposal of all shares
siz ns °vin stock held in investments or as collateral within
1932i cTtlls after its ad-iission to membership on December 5,
pecler,b0 the
issuance of surety bonds without permission of the
°f th:121eserve Board; to the failure of an executive officer
rnk to file with the Chairman of the Board of Directors
of
to tile u ank a statement of his borrowings at another bank; and
the clirrchase since June 16, 1933, of 200 shares of stock of
'Is
Company. It is also observed that preferenrates Publishing
0,
officers a
interest on loans have been granted to certain
and directors
,
ti01,
of the subject bank in possible violaif you°f
the
will
Pennsylvania 'Banking Code. It will be appreciated
eff„
advise the Board, what steps have been taken to
or
th
/ection of these matters and obtain compliance with
c°naition
„
01 membership and the provisions of the Federal
'erve Act.




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-4"The examiner lists also several criticisms of the operations of the trust department, including the practice of carrying in the bank's own earnings interest received on trust 7ort'Fages. In reporting as to the corrections made, please include
flfor-lation as to
th‘, amount of such earnings carried in the
ank l s undivided profits and the adjustments made in connection
t
herewith.
"It will be ac.oreciated if you will advise the Board regardig
these matters not later than June 1, 1934."
Approved.
Letter dated May 12, 1934, approved by six members of the Board,

tom

Williams, Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve Bank of
Cleve).
and) reading as
follows:
:Reference is made to Mr. Fletcher's letter of May 3, 1934,
ii.;111 is in reply to the Board's letter of April 26, 1934, whereWas made as to whether The Marengo Banking Company,
'Ohio, which accomplished its membership in the System
n
L'), 1934, had complied with the provisions of condiralmbered 17, which provided that the bank should, within
1:j,ee months
from the date of its admission to membership,
se;:l.les all
excessive loans to amounts within the limits pre1/:
3 d bY the laws of the State of Ohio.
az og The report of examination of The Marengo Banking Company,
for ; N°17ember 27, 1933, made in connection with its application
exe .lembershi-n,
showed that the bank on that date was carrying
essive loas
follows:

O

C. A. Bumker
C. B. Smith
11 74 .

$ 8,405
10,032

the "15 noted that application has been made by Mr..
to
liouinal
r
Land Bank for a loan in an amount sufficient o
°f th aly
,
1 .1,is line at The Marengo Banking Corn any; that officels
:2
s
would
loan
the
stated
confident
?e gre
a/11-.
that they were
have
be li zdeu, in
which event Mr. Smith's line at the bank would
fee
CiLLLdet ed, and
eels
because of such circumstances Mr. Fletcher
that
additional time s_lould be granted the bank ihich
to
n w
u tjith the condition numbered 17.
l
134nizir:11 ilieW of all tne information, the Board grants The 7arengo
-1,,Co-aPanY an extension of time to July 15, 1934, within .
aald it-4-e Provisions of condition numbered 17 may be complied with
re
quested that you advise the bank accordingly.




"No reference is made in Mr. Fletcher's letter to the
El.inker line hereinbefore referred to and it is assumed that
71,1c11 line has now been reduced to an amount within legal
limits."
Approved.
Lettpr dated May 12, 1934, approved by six members of the
t0 Mr.
O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency, reading as follows:
"There is transmitted herewith for your consideration
al3plication of the First Security Bank of Idaho, Boise,
4.c1811°, a member bank, for Permission to establish and operate
a branch at
Shelley, Idaho.
At the present time the First Security Bank of Idaho is
°Perating the
fifteen branches which were approved by you on
.lovember 15,
1933.
22An
Ashton
Blackfoot
Emmett
Gooding
Ialao Falls
Jerome
Mo
ntpelier
Mountain
Home
/Tampa
Po
catello
Preston
Payett
e
1111Pert
Shoshone
ShelleY (proposed)
in Office
(Boise)

Population
1,003
3,199
2,763
1,592
973
9,429
1,976
2,436
1,243
8,206
16,471
3,351
2,613
2,250
1,211

Capital requirements
50,000
50,000
50,000
50,000
50,000
100,000
50,000
50,000
60,000
100,000
100,000
50,000
50,000
50,000
50,000

1,447

50,000

21,544

100,000
:31,050,000

iO
ens7tIliolzlissioner of Finance of the State of Idaho has ap-2roved
.crarici --4-'Lshment of
the brnch and the Federal Reserve Agent t San
4c° recommends
approval of the application.
carlt ba jier, of the
apparent satisfactory condition of the ap-oleclera
thP recomlendation of the Federal Reserve
Aget,,t e
estab_isnTent
"
i-71e2
erve Board, recommends that you approve the
-rati°11 of a branch at Shelley, Idaho, by the First Security




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-6of Idaho, Boise, Idaho, on condition that:
1. Prior to the establishment of the branch, such
bank,
if it has not already done so, shall charge off or
otherwise eliminate all losses shown in the report
of credit investigation as of February 10, 1934,
made by an examiner for the Federal Reserve Bank of
San Francisco, and all depreciation in securities
other than those in the four highest grades as classified by a recognized investment service organization
reularly engaged in the business of rating and grading securities.
The attached file inclades a copy of the report of credit investi
19,, g( lon of the First Security Bank of Idaho as of February 10,
made by examiners for the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisof valid a copy of the memorandum
prepared by the Board's Division
fil-x aminations. It will be appreciated if you
will return this
0
,e when it has served your nurnose and when you advise the Board
Y°11r action on
the application described above."
Approved.
Tele

gral

to
Of

iiew
11130,

`f.,
r
•

dated May 1 2, 19, anoroved by five members of the

Case, Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve Bank

reading as follows:

Dili; ,"nsidering questions raised by letter May 9 from
e,ct
'
s'ln and
inclosures and pending such consideration
cej
tn for ten
days from May 13, 1934, time within which
rmast'41 Farmers
Trust Company of West Palm Beach, Florida
afTil?btain and file
agreements of its holding company
iates
Form P-5."
Annroved.
l'etter to
?Tr. Austin, Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserlr
e Bar.112;
°Philadelphia, reading as follows:
"l
50Pt
is acknowledged
of your letter of April 18,
014e7 Ile all
anended a:onlication of the National B
of
elle./';q3"4 Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania,
for
Philadelphia,
i.
°f stock of
the
Federal
of
Philadelphia
Reserve
Bank
ld.;
offio The
amended application
received
at
the
Boal1 s
was
not
Of
til
the
APril 20, the day after you and the Comptro er
'
rr
uelleY
were advised of the Board's approval of the




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5/14/34
-7aPplication originally submitted. It is understood that the
Comptroller of the Currency issued a charter to the bank on
&ril 23 and that 150 Shares of stock of the Federal Reserve
Of Philadelphia were issued to it on April 24. In the
circumstances the second application will be considered as
ar
atification of that previously submitted."
An2roved.
Letter dated May 12, 1934, approved by six members of the Board,
01,
"nflor, Comptroller of the Currency, reading as follows:

to i

"In accordance with your recommendation, the Federal Reserve Board
approves a reduction in the common canitel stock
IThs First National Bank of Crown Point', Crown Point,
1)4dianal from $50,000 to $25,000, pursuant to a plan which
,.es that the, bank's capital shall be increased by
pi '')0 of preferred stock to be sold to tic Reconstruction
;711:;.nce C
orporation, and that the released capital, together
is7Laisvoluntarv contribution of approximately $13,000 which
laild;woe raised locally, and a Portion of the bank's surnlus,
e1.4vided profits and
reserve accounts, shall be used to
ate unsatisfactory
assets, all as set forth in your
'florial.nOum of May 4,
1934.
t;on In considering the plan under which the proposed reducatt„ill,caPital is to be effected, it has been noted that
ca,pije'"us proposed adjustments have been completed the bank s
ceilt ,
1 and surplus will amount to but approximately 9 per
exa,i0-, total
deposits. It has also been noted that your
p1„,-11!r Criticised
the management and recommended that any
for'22- re
habilitat4on submitted for approval should provide
11017:s str
engthening of such management. It is assumed,
wheTieleIr' that You have these conditions in mind and that
er it is feasible to do so you will obtain such further
corrections
as may be practicable."

4M

Anproved.
to 14„.
IT*

tt
Leer

dated May 12, 196z,
by six members of the Board,
1 am)roved
-

Ruvial'. d
Stewart, Cashier of The First National Bank, Hermon,
40r,
-$ ronA4
-u-Lug as
follows:
"Zap
lette
inquirY contained in the second paragraplAof your
14, 1934, addressed to the Comptroller
erey
fthe
nas been
replY
referred to the Federal reserve Board or

1r




4.1 4-4 veyo
)

-8"You state that you have been issuing certificates of
dePcsit which you understand do not comply with the Federal
3(?rve Board's Regulation Q; but that you intend calling
in such certificates and
issuing new certificates of dc,,)sit
.c:lich do comply with the regulation. In tne circumstances,
You request to be advised whether you may lawfully
pay
,flterest on tae deuosits in Question for the period they
Ilave been represented by the old style certificates, either
uY making such payment at the time the exchange is
effected
°r bY dating the new certificates back to the date of
issuance
?.!' the old ones and -paying interest for the
entire
period
at
tae
maturity of the new certificates.
As indicated in 7.egulation Q, a certificate of deposit
,
11Don which
interest may lawfully be paid must conform to the
sfin
depositn
of a time certificate of deposit
contained in the
roenCulation; and, accordingly, interest may lawfully be paid
o-dthedeposits in Question for the period during which the
eL certificates
have been outstanding only if such certifie? meet the
reouirements of the regulation with respect
tlme
certificates of deposit. The Federal Reserve Board
le to determine, however, without an examination of
t:e
ci ficertificates
in question whether they comply with the
Itlition of time certificates contained in the regulation
flaby iherefore cannot advise you definitely whether interest
been awfullY be paid on the deoosits for the period they have
represented
by the old certificates."
Approved.
to mr.
0

t,

rtl,

Letter dated
May 11, 1934, approved by six members of the Board,
, Ass
Assistant Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve Bank

ell0nel

reading as follows:
You ia,;" refers to your letter of April a), 1934, with which
questi`-Losed
an °Pinion of your Counsel with reference to a
A St
arising under section 23A of 'Lae Federal Reserve
invest
Act
:
rlember bank on
rnent5
and
loans
to
June 16, 1933, had
carA t,'11 itS affiliates
in excess of twenty per cent of its
erc,ait fana surplus
and, subsequent to that date, it extended
which
°ne of its affiliates by the discount of a note
The qu"as eligible for
:
rediscount at the Federal reserve ban
°f s j
e ti°11 arises whether this action constituted a violation
ils °11 23A of
'
the Federal Reserve Act.
first ecti/%n 23A
consists of three paragraphs. Under the
Parar"h. loans and extensions of credit by a meraber 'Dank




1379
5/14/34
-9"t° anY of its affiliates, purchases under repurchase agreefrom any such affiliates, investments in stock or
ob
ligations of any such affiliates and advances upon the
security
of stock or obligations of any such affiliates are
Prohibited, if the aggregate amount thereof outstanding will
exceed, in the case of any one affiliate, ten per cent of the
a' stock and surplus of such member bank or, in the case
°f all its
affiliates, twenty per cent of the capital stock
ellrplus of such bank. The second paragraph provides in
Part as
follows:
"'Within the foregoing limitations, each loan
or extension of credit of any kind or
character to
an affiliate shall be secured by collateral in the
form of stocks, bonds, debentures, or other such
obligations
having a market value at the time of
making the loan or extension of credit of at least
20 per centwn more than the amount of the loan or
extension of credit, or of at least 10 per centum
Tge
dit
than the amount of the loan or extension of
if it is secured by obligations of any State,
Or of
anY political subdivision or agency thereof:
IIII944.1t1t That the provisions of this paragranh
shall not apply to loans or extensions of credit
secured by obligations of the United States Government, the Federal intermediate credit banks, the
Federal land banks, the Federal Home Loan Banks, or
the Home Owners' Loan Corporation, or by such notes,
dratts, bills of exchange, or bankers' acceptances
;s are
eligible for rediscount or for purchase by
14 the
reserve banks. ***I
ceptel
thir paragraph, certain classes of affiliates are exd,
.Lrom the provisions of the section.
'
t is clear that loans or extensions of credit to an
affili
forate
or
secured by paper which is eligible for rediscount
the re Purchase by Federal reserve banks are not subject to
ret:aracillirements of the second paragraph of section 23A with
it is t° the form and amounts of collateral security, but
30
Th manifest that loans or extensions of credit secured
/Y such ,
4irst 11, t',4Der are
not excepted from the limitations of the
-aragraPh
of this section unless the word 'paragraph'
in the abov
other 4t.
e quoted provision may be interpreted in a sense
esta))ir
s,Lan that ill
which it is ordinarily used. It is an
abeellt
eu rule of
statutory construction that, in the
the utIttral
°f ambiguitY, words in a statute are to be read in
,A1 ordinary mesning commonly given to them.
'Ireover. it is to
be observed that in the third paragraph




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SA4/34
0

of section 23A, in excepting certain classes of affiliates
from all of the provisions of the section, the word 'section'
iS used. In the
circumstances it is not believed that it can
be assumed
that the word 'paragraph' in the second paragraph
cf the section was inadvertently used or that it
was intended
to have the same meaning as the word 'section' in the third
paragraph. Accordingly, the Federal Reserve Board agrees with
'he opinion of your Counsel that a loan or extension of
credit
clzed by paper eligible for rediscount or purchase at a
reserve bank is not excepted from the limitations of
thderal
e first paragraph of section 23A of the Federal Reserve Act
the amount of such loans
which may be made and that a member
bank
which already has outstanding loans and extensions of
dit to its
affiliates and investments in the stock or
c igations of such affiliates in an amount up to twenty Per
t of its capital stock and surplus (the limit prescribed by
that
a,,a paragraph) may
not lawfully make an additional loan to
2,;.,affiliate even though it is secured by paper eligible for
ulecount or purchase at a Federal reserve bank."

r

Z

Approved.
Letter. dated May 12, 1934, approved by six members of the
Board,
a %ton,
Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve Bank of Richraord,
"
ding as
follows:
to ur.

orm
vederal Reserve Board has given consideration to the
a9D.Licati
Zazir4
°11 of Wm. J. Flather, Jr. under Section 32 of the
a
. '4AC Act of
1933 for a permit to serve at the same time
and
:
a a d
irector of the American Security and Trust Company
Preeid__
(3f we:hirt:Zt
ona
,
l
.dector of Wm. J. Flather Jr., Inc., both
C.
lilice
ilathslo
iteaPpears from the information contained in Mr.
aDplication that the business of Wm. J. Flather Jr.,
firs,
ia limited to
the making and selling of loans secured by
ills2 deed
of trust on real estate, to the conduct of a general
"Iiilice business,
and to the collection of rents.
ex,
a letter
dated
April 16, 1934 (X-7866) the Board
orTthe
aeed
°Pinion that, although there may be mortgage notes
01
:!nd which should be classified as 'securities' for the
ordir -a Of Section
32, mortgage notes arising out of the
witilill tYPe of direct
loan on real estate are not 'securities
tor the"Zri
tntendment
of Section 32, and that neither such notes
seclari't4
gages securing the same should be classified
engaged
as
ee l in
n
determining whether ,an organization




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5/14/3,1

-11-

"dealing in such obligation comes within the scope of Section 32.
"It will be appreciated if you will advise the above named
a%.OPlicant that the provisions of Section 32 are deemed to be in94)Dlicab1 e to his service to the institution named in his application.u
Approved.
Letter dated May 12, 1934, approved V. six members of the Board,
tov
z.

Iroxton, Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve Bank of Richt4)4c1.
'reading as follows:
a

."The Federal Peserve Board has given consideration to the
Plications of John Saul, Andrew Saul, and G. Percy McGlue under
32 of the Banking Act of 1933 for permits to serve at the
same
0;.4le time as directors of member banks and as directors and/or
4-licers of B. F. Saul Company, Washington, D. C.
appears from the information contained in the applications
th
hat "ItF.
Saul Company is engaed in the business of lending
„7.7 on notes secured by first deeds of trust on real estate,
;141. that
the COmpany sells to the public only the original notes
giled
u bY the record owners of the property.
the In a letter dated April 16, 1934 (X-7866) the Board expressed
whir,1°,131.nicn. that although there may be mortgage notes of a kind
seci-'44 should be classified as 'securities' for the purposes of
'
.°11 32, mortgage notes arising out of the ordinary type of
tlerle
tet -oan on
real estate are not 'securities' within the intendof Section 32, and that neither such notes nor the mortgages
se
ilie
ellring the same should be classified as 'securities' in determinCorn whether an organization engaged in dealing in such obligations
esrwithin the scope of Section 32.
eL.0131.1It will be
appreciated if you. will advise the above named
iiIi4ITInts that the provisions of Section 32 are deemed to be
'
l icable to their service to the institutions named in their
abbil

e

Approved.
to Itr. Letter dated May 12, 1934, approved by six members of the Board,
:1111rL Bosworth, Denver, Colorado, referring to his apnlication
ati°11 32 of the Banking Act of 1933 for a permit to serve at the
time„
"a director of
the First National Bank of Denver and as an




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5/14/34

-12-

"cer and director of Bosworth,
Chanute, Loughridge & Co., both of
Deliver, Colorado, and
stating that it appears that the relationship
cc4'el
'
ed bY the application is within the class which section 32 was
(1
"
lig1ad to
terminate, and that, accordingly, the Board is unable to
fitld that
it would not be incompatible with the public
interest as
4claredbY the Congress to grant the application, although in the
elellt the applicant desires to submit further facts or arguments in
all/IP°rt of the
application the Board is prepared to give them careful
e°48ideratioa,
Approved.
to ur.

Letter dated May
12, 1934, approved by six members of the Board,
all. W. Corby, Washington, D. C., reading as follows:

tir, The Federal Reserve
Board has given careful considerat-;-T to
arolication
the Clayton Act for a permit
under
_
"ure
Qc compat the same time a member of the firm of W. B. Hibbs
wash ark7 and a
director of The Riggs National Bank, both of
iflgton, D. C.
"kr 'The Federal
Reserve Board believes that it was the
11.7!0±' Section
8A of the Clayton Act to prevent the um,Bee
c)f bank credit for the carrying of and trading in
te a
, and that the method b y which the section was ined to ace
omplish this purpose was by terminating relation.?v°11/ine tha service of an officer, director, employee,
.1);
3 grler
of an organization making loans secured by stock
Ilati,ncollateral as a director, officer or employee of a
0,0er;r1 bank
or other bank or trust company organized or
ace()
under the laws of the United States. Since
financed
margin
cotstts, and the
brokers loans by which they are
for ca;n! One of the principal ways in which credit is use
servic
;
44mg or trading
in securities, it appears that the
stockdirector, officer, employee or partner of a
ic.1, !rect :icchallge firm carrying such margin accounts as a
''41e pri
°-- °fficer or employee of a national bank is one of
44,04413:1 Itvy
el
r
3eSdi
Sect
of
rer:
ed
a.
tionships at which the provisions

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13E13
5/14/34

-13"It appears that the carrying of such margin accounts constitutes a substantial portion of the business of W. B. Hibbs &
C°mPany, and that therefore the relationship covered by your
aPPlication is within the class which that section was
designed
to
terminate. Accordingly, the Board is unable to find that it
Would be not
incompatible with the public interest as declared
DY the Congress to grant
your application.
"It may be noted that the Federal Reserve Board would not
be
authorized to grant your application in any event unless W. B.
& Company may properly be considered as a firm of private
ers within the meaning of the provisions of Section 8 of the
4,,ton Act. The Board has not attempted to pass definitely upon
phase of the matter although on the basis of the information
.7flieb. has
been submitted there appears to be considerable doubt
nat W. B. Hibbs & Company may properly be considered as a firm
Of
private bankers
within the meaning of those provisions.
ar
In the event that you desire to submit further facts or
tog13111elits in support of your application, the Board is prepared
facre them careful consideration. However, any such additional
wr44
!or
arguments should be submitted as promptly as possible, in
the Federal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve
B
'7f)1InTir°a
Approved.
to mr.
Ohic —

Letter dated
May 12, 1934, approved by six members of the Board,
Stevens, Federal
Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve Bank of

stating that the
Board has given consideration to the following
al..311eation for a
permit under the Clayton Act, and that, upon the basis
Of the
illformation before it, the Board feels that the issuance of the
DerrItt appli
ed for
would be incompatible with the public interest. The
letter also
re
quested the
agent to communicate to the applicant the
11(larclis
position in the
w/lether t
matter, and to advise the Board promptly as to
11
aPplicant desires to submit any additional data, and, if not,
az to wh
at
steps he
Of
proposes to take in order to comply with the provisions
elaYtori Act:




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-14-

Ur. George G.
Thorp, for permission to serve at the same time
as a director of The First National Bank of
Chicago, Chicago,
Illinois,
and as a director of The Gary State Bank, Gary,
Indiana.
Approved.
Letters dated May 12, 1934, approved by six members of the
104rd

f
$ vo

aPplicants for permits under the Clayton Act, advising of

41/13rOir ft't
'
114

of their
applications as follows:
Mr. will,
fljfl H. Matthai, for permission to serve at the same
tiererz a
director of the Baltimore branch of the Federal
Bank of Richmond, Baltimore, Maryland, and as a
:a.irsetor of the
Morris Plan Bank of Baltimore, Baltimore,
marYland.

14.1r. Thomas
E. Donnelley, for permission to serve at the same
:ime as a
director
of The First National Bank of Lake Forest,
ke
Forest, Illinois, and as a director of the Personal Loan
Savings
Bank, Chicago, Illinois.

r

?Aar. J°hn C.
Fischer, for permission to serve at the same time
Insaa di
rector and officer of the First National Bank in Glen
First
in
' Glen
North,
Dakota, and as a director of The
Ilational Bank of Hebron, Hebron, North Dakota.
Mr5 t. w
dir • Kane, for permission to serve at the same time as
worthector and
officer of The Worthington National Bank,
ineton, Minnesota, and as a director of The First
Itati()n
al Bank
of Brewster, Brewster, Minnesota.
Mr. L. L.
a
Son, for
director
permission to serve at the same time as
ville
-uor and
officer of The First National Bank of Barneshe 13arnesville, Minnesota
nn
and as a director and officer
Kent State
Bank,
Kent,
Minnesota.
Mr. Albe
184,44ir:tet107:tr for Permission to serve at the same ti
officer of The
e Buffalo National Bank, Buffalo,
3
,tal and as a
director
and
officer of The Security State
''aPle
Lake, Minnesota.
11*

:
l airect "
11111, for permission
to serve at the same time as
"
‘,tiesoiari°1` of The
Central National Bank of Carthage, Carthage,
4isso.ari s and as a
director of the Webb City Bank, Webb City,

t



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Iiir• H. G. Pratt,- for permission to serve at the same time as
a director and officer of The Hastings National. Bank, Hastings,
Nebraska, ana as a director and officer of the State Bank of
juniata, Juniata, Nebraska.
Mr
'Creo• Sullivan, for permission to serve at the same time
bas a director and officer of The First National Bank of Overoak, Overbrook, Kansas, and. as a director of The Richland
State Bank, Richland, Kansas.
Approved.
Consideration was then given to a draft of a proposed letter to
14r*rood.Pederal Reserve Agent at the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis,
rete,,
'
411g to the
application of Mr. Sydney M. Shoenberg wider section 32
the Ballki
lig Act of 1933 for a perrait to act at the same time as a
aekler in securities in his individual capacity under the name of Sydney
ers and Company, and as a director of the First National Bank,
b°th in.
St.
Louis,
and stating that, from the information conMissouri'
notti in the aPplication, it appears that Mr. Shoenberg is not an
cer, director,
or manager of any corporation, partnership, or un14c°11)orated as
sociationli engaged in the business of purchasing, sellnegotiating securities, and. that, on the basis of a previous
I'll
„It4€ Of the Ikard, section 32 is inapplicable to the relationship
c1-2eribsd
that tb. -II tile application. Mr. Thomas said that he had. requested.
the reae
, cillestion
raised in the letter be considered by the Board for
son
that, If Mr.
Shoenberg were an officer or manager of a partnerei1.011 :ged Primarily
in purchasing, selling, or negotiating securities,
owila 414 2 w°111d be held
applicable to him, but that, inasmuch as he
°Perates
the
the securities company in his individual capacity,
taectiort is
hej
d. to be inapplicable. He stated that, in his opinion,




1386

644/31
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it i
s inconceivable that
Congress should have intended such a result.
Irr- Wyatt stated that the Board's ruling is the result of the
raatzer
tation

in which the statute is worded, and is the
only logical interprethat can be given to the
statute.
Mr. James moved that Counsel be requested to
Prepare, for the consideration of the Board, drafts
of letters to the Chairmen of the Committees on
Banking and Currency of the Senate and the House
of Representatives recommending an amendment to
section 32 of the Banking Act of 1933 so as to make
the interlocking directorate provision applicable
to an individual engaged primarily in the business
of purchasing, selling, or negotiating securities
in his individual capacity, and that, pending consideration by Congress of the proposed amendment,
the Board defer action on all applications by
individual dealers in securities for permits to
serve as directors under section 32 of the Banking
Act of 1933.
Carried.

Mere was
presented a draft of a letter, previously circulated
41°111C. the a
PPointive members of the Board, to Mr. Curtiss, Federal Re411re .11 erlt
at the
Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, reading as follows:
o Refer
ence is made to your letter of April 25, 1934,
Tliver ;''G the request of
the Fall River Trust Company, Fall
'
4assaChusett5,
for
cancelation of condition of memberImbered. 21
which reads as follows:
thin six months frora date of admission
to me
such bank shall cause the
removmbership,
al from its banking grArters
of the
offices of the cooperative bank now
located
oTh therein.
blIthp,A e b ank was
trir,
„ admitted to membership on December 29, 1933,
ve wat;e4— to that time, requested
that condition numbered
'The Bo d.
believes that it is not a desirable situation
Zvet. whee
quarters of
that of r11._the
abank are shared by another institution.
OiQy
cormection between the institutions is
andlord and
tenant, the true relationship existing in




1387
5/1'1N
-17Q0 far as the public at large
is concerned, is often unnown and
15'nfusini.;, and in the event of difficulties of either insti
tution,
f,-e situation
might result in serious embarrassment to both.
4.-Iter careful consi
deration of the matter, the Board feels that
it
1
wou4d not be justified in this case in making an
exception
its genral policy in connection with the conditions presc
ribed
'er
r
admission
to membership in the System, and, therefore, the
jcluest of the Fall River Trust Company for cancelation of
condion Tambered
21 is denied.
In view of all the circumstances, however, the Board grant
s
an
piv exte
_ _11,10n of time to December 29, 1934, within which the Fall
Trust Corrmany may comply with the requiremen
ts of conditiona
ered 21 and you are reque
sted to advise the bank accoraingly.
Th
ere was also presented a draft of a letter, Previously circu
lated
"he aDpointive
members of the Board, to Mr. Hoxton, Federal Reserve
41411t a
t the Federal
Reserve Bank of Richmond, reading as follows:
ren,l,s4'.-elerenCe

is made to Mr. Fry's letter of April 26, 1934
threauest of the Citizens Bank and Trust Com?any,bp
e
Carolina, for cancellation of condition of mem _rWhich reads as follo
ws:
'Within six months from the date of its admission to membership such bank shall require that
the offices
of the building and loan association now located in the bankina quarters of such
bar be remov
tlr
ed therefrom.'
ior
bank was admitted to membership on November17, 1933.
'° that ti
- me, however, the bank haii requested that condiform(rbered 22
be waived anE on December 11, 1933 Mr. Fry
to ll,. the Peder
al
Reserve Board that the bank had been requelsted
title-l
aIpg this
tive
ter thematter to the attention of the Reserve Bank some
of the new year, at which time the execu7
a recZaittee first
of
the Reserve Bank would submit the request with
,endation to the
Federal Reserve Board.
2°ard believes that
it is not a desirable situation
Ile.11,
11,- quarters of
a bank are shared by another institution
or:
4x r1 the only
connection between the institutions is that
Diiblie-,Xd
and tenan
t, the true relationship, insofar as the
in the re is concerned,
is often unknown and confusing,
;
4tuat' ne event of
diffi
culti
es of either institution, the
,,as might
co
result in serious embarrassment to both. The
nsidered the argument of the Citizens Bank and
that it would
be unfair to require the removal
wherl
and loan association from the quarters of that
and loan associations are permitted to remain
1lZt




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6/14/34

-18-

R.

ln the banking quarters of the two other banks in Concord.
The Board has no control over the operations of the other banks
1/1 Concord, while it has a responsibility regarding admission
of State banks to membership in the System. After careful con!ideration of the matter the Board feels that it would not be
Justified in this case in making an exception to its general
?licY in connection with the conditions prescribed for adto membership in the System, and, therefore, the request of the bank for
cancellation of condition numbered 22
18 denied.
"In view
of all of the
j
g allte an extension of time
the
Citizens Bank and Trust
,
t 4te of condition numbered
4e bank
accordingly."

circumstances, however, the Board
to November 17, 1934 within which
Company may comply with the revire22, and you are requested to advise

Mr. Hamlin
stated he had requested that these letters be discussed
1)the
the

Board for the reason that, althouen he

in agreement fully with

13tion taken by the Board that
ank
it is not desirable for a member bank
to ehare its b
ng quarters with another institution, he felt that the

Zettter should

be carefully considered as the Board had previously approved

the
licatj
*Lich has

4;41,041

of the New Britain Trust Company, New Britain, Connecticut,

a "vings bank in its banking room, and he understood that a

rooitsba
als
* ih Providence, Rhode Island, is operating in the same bankthe Rhode Island Hospital Trust Company. Attention was also
e&Ilecl to the fact
that a national bank and a nonmember State bank in
:
c..allalate
4e°''a) 1713rth C
rooms. arolina, have building and loan associations in their

"suing. discussion developed the opinion that the present
ext_ °11 °f the Board
is the proper one, and that, rather than make
9?tiorls
thereto, the rule
should be applied uniformly to all banks.




Mr.

At the conclusion of the discussion,
James moved that Counsel be requested

5/14/34
-19to prepare, for consideration of tr.e Board,
drafts of letters to the Banking and Currency
Committees of the Senate and House of Representatives recommending the passage of legislation
Which would prohibit the maintenance, in the
banking quarters of member banks and of banks
whose deposits are insured by the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation, of the offices of other
banks or other institutions such as building
and loan associations, etc.
Carried, and the letters to Messrs. Curtiss
and Hoxton referred to above were approved.
Illere was
presented also a draft of a letter to Mr. Hoxton, Federal
ieted, Znt at the
Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, which had been circu,
lows:

°I-IslY among the appointive members of the Board, reading as fol-

to:
t This refers to your telegram of February 23,
1934, and
'le letter o_
wealac_
f
February 28, 1934, from your Conmsel, Mr.
with regard_ to
the question whether the State Planters
sy t all°- Trust
Company, a member bank of the Federal Reserve
,
fors ,erLi.sylabY lawfully
acquire
re bonds of an affiliate in exchange
e
estete when, as a result of the transaction, t1.11)
e d
of the b
will exceed the limitations prescri e
Ti
23A of the
Federal Peserve Act.
It
a
sortie
Ppears that the State Planters Bank and Tlamt,
rCio
d77
.
cliateY
ae rs ago
assumed the liabilities of another b
and
thlis a Its assets,
including certain real estate. The
estate
t° th eb
(1131`,._
red Las been rented but the yield is small in relation;
'ievere
v alue. The State Planters Bank and Trust Company
' oratiir ears ago
organized the Richmond Mortgage
Loan
!Ilat
lander the laws of
and
Virginia
it
is
understood
'
izQtaeteii,oittrientterirseReaT
thal of the corporation is owned by the
-ank and Trust Company. The corporation formerly
4.'debZ8 11Pon real
c/1
estate and sold its collateral trust bonds
aliTulses, which
were the direct obligations of the corpora2°ellred Jere secured
by
co,,
mortgages or the deposit of notes which were in turnhe
,
deeds of trust. It is understood that
ira6i0n is n
transcig
otransactingno new business and is endeavor3143ate its affairs and its outstanding
10t
an
indebtedness,
;.°1• 111.1technic
ally been placed in liquidation. A person
ain b° d of the -corporation has offered to exchange
ng
1)°cer
st14 for tr s
real estate in question and to pay to the

;-(11




1390
5/14/34
-20"State Planters Bank and Trust Company a
certain additional
amolint in cash. The
transaction is considered desirable from
the standpoint of the
member bank; but, if carried out, will
result in its holdings
exceeding the limitations prescribed
ih Section 23A
of the Federal Reserve Act.
"The question whether in the
circumstances described an
exchange of real
estate should be considered an investment of
funds by the
member bank within the meaning of clause numbered
of the first paragraph of
Section 23A of the Federal Re!erve Act is a
close and doubtful one and the Federal Reserve
idoard will
not at this time undertake to express an opinion
's to the
interpretation which should be nlaced on the statute
2
1 1 this regard. However, inasmuch as it appears
in this
u
caseth
member bank proposes to dispose of unprofitable real
st'te
which was acouired some years ago and that the transsal!loh will be
carried out in good faith for this purpose,
in view of the other information
which you have furnished
connection, the Federal Reserve Board will offer no
;:Jection in the
peculiar circumstances of this case to the
eal?°sed exchange of real
estate by the State Planters Bank
la130 Trilet Company for bonds of its affiliate as above outlined
conn condition
that the bank advise you in writing before the
tIles1F,ametion of the transaction that it will avail itself of
41rst o
Pportunity which may occur for the disposition on
rtsonable basis of the bonds of the
affiliated corporation
vkl.:111ireL It should be understood that the Board's position
partA"i s matter is
based entirely upon the circumstances of this
1,1cIreocLelelTe
i, and, its action herein is not to be regarded as
anY other case in which a similar question armser Section 23A of the
Federal Reserve Act may be involved."

L

Upon motion by Mr. James, the
letter was approved.
trom mr.Attention was then directed to a memorandum dated May 4,
1934,
Golde
eeDiez of , hweiser, Director of the Division of Research and Statistics,
wntel4 had
been furnished to the members of the Board, transtaitti4e a
Diitttio4 Merrl°ralldum of the
same date from Mr. Woodlief Thomas of the
tatea
rat

°f
t. Researdh and Statistics,
which suggested that, for the reasons
he
raemorandum, the Board consider a reduction in the maximum
e °t int r„,
Prescribed in
Regulation Q, that may be paid by member




1391
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-21-

banks on
time and savings deposits.

Mr. Goldenweiser stated that he had

8111rmitted the memorandum to the Board for consideration only, that
he
44 not made
up his mind as to whether a reduction should be made, and
thEtt he felt no change in the interest rate should be made by the Board
Iritil011t a complete investigation of the desirability of such action.
Upon motion by Mr. James, it was voted
to make no change in the maximum interest
rate of 30 per annum on time and savings
deposits, Prescribed in the Board's Regulation q.
Reference
was made to a letter addressed to Governor Black by
C1"erzor
Calid.ns of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco under
44 "4144Y 2
'1934, which had been circulated previously among the
4.1.111'°illtive

members of the Board, stating that officers of the Bishop

114ti°11a1 Bank
and the Bank of Hawaii, both of Honolulu, were in San
iav
estigating the question of membership in the Federal Re81"e SYstem;
that Governor Calkins had discussed the matter with
t41411; and
that he would
appreciate wire advice from the Board as to (a)
4"41.118810n to

membership of the banks referred to, and (b) the estab-

1411141ellt ill connection
therewith of a currency depot in Honolulu in
:etutchetlfrt:$2a,::01:63.000aratboe$5,000,000 would be deposited.

It was sug-

sent to Governor Calkins stating that the
given careful
consideration to the matter referred to in his
bIlt b
efore taking
action thereon requests that tha board of
tlitect
tatitter(11'4 Of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco consider the
tout
,
"I" nth

and submit a recommendation to the Board thereon,
the
recommendation of Governor Calkins and that of Mr.




1392
6/14/34

-22-

lewton. Federal Reserve Agent; and that the Board also desires an estimate
as to the
cost of maintaining a currency depot in Honolulu and any other
illf°rraation which Governor Calkins feels would be helpful in enabling the
osEtrci to
reach a decision in the matter.
Upon motion by Mr. Hamlin, the Secretary
was requested to address a telegram to Governor
Calkins in accordance with the above suggestion.
z.

Governor Black presented a letter dated May 11, 1934, from Mr.

ralle, Deputy Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York,
i'eferri
AC to recent
correspondence with the Board in regard to the ear4C Of gold for the
Banco Central de Guatemala, and stating that the
had. written the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York expressing a deto
the_
c)'Pen an account on the books of the New York bank, and that at
of the
board of directors on May 10, 1934, the officers were
allthort
zed subject to the approval of the Federal Reserve Board, to open
alld mel
PLaill at account on the books of the Federal Reserve Bank of New
1"k
the Ilame
of the B
o Central de Guatemala and to carry out
13eratiom,
'
11 this market for that bank along substantially the same
gezarai
lnes and
subject to substantially the same terms and conditions
ut
() othe
r foreign
central banks having accounts. with the New York
tioll

letter

also contained information with regard to the organize,

the (31e la"er8 of the Banco Central de Guatemala and stated that, if
Of the
account be approved, the New York bank will offer
1)articii3ett
b enac104 ion in the
account to the other Federal reserve banks as had
0
like i
nstances in the past.
After discussion, in which it was noted
vt.lat the
action taken by the directors limits
the r
elations to be established with the Banco



1393
5/14/34

-23Central de Guatemala to the opening of a one-way
account, the Secretary was requested to advise
Mr. Crane that the Board approves the action of
the directors in authorizing the opening of the
account, and to advise the other Federal reserve
banks that the Board approves participation by
them in the account, if and when opened, in the
event they desire to do so.
At this point Mr. O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency, Mr.

Awalt
Deputy Comptroller of the Currency, and Mr. McGrath, Assistant
colulsel in
the Insolvent Banks Division of the Comptroller's office,
Joined. the
meeting.
Governor Black presented a letter addressed to him under
(late of 144Y 2, 1934, by
Mr. Harold L. Ickes, Federal Emergency Administrator of
Public Works, stating that his office had made arrangements
"the °Ifice of the Comptroller of the Currency to furnish for the
collfidential andprivate use of the Public Works Administration, as
cEgis
are made
Photostat copies of reports of condition of national
bellks in
which funds
are deposited by borrowers from the Public Works
kllinistration; that it
is his desire to make the same arrangement with
the
?sclera
Reserve
system to furni sh the Public Works Administration,
calls are
made, with reports of condition of State member banks,
•rx(1 that
the
arraneement with the Comptroller's office is that the Ad11114istration will
reimburse the Comptroller for the actual cost of
tlaki 143
the
photostat copies.
Ur.
Morrill stated
that he had talked with Mr. Await, Deputy
011er Of

advise

the

.




Currency, concerning this matter, and that Mr. Await

that the
Co-iptroller's office does not furnish the

13911
5/14/34

-24-

Works Administration with the entire reports of
condition of
national banks,
but that only the first nage of each report is being furniahed, and that
the information contained on this page is required under
the l to
be published and,
therefore, is not confidential. He also
stated
that it
appeared that the Public Works Administration desired to
theu same
information in the case of State member banks but that
anch b
are not
required to publish their condition reports made on
call °I
' the Board;
that such reports are regarded by the Federal reserve
44443
aild
the Board as
confidential and that, therefore, the suggestion
ilad been made that t
he Board obtain the permission of State member banks
betor
6 ellch i
nformation be given to the Public Works Administration.
Governor Black s
ested that Mr. Ickes be advised that, while
it 15 th
e
actice of
the Federal Reserve Board to issue calls for rePort of
"Ildition of State member banks simultaneously with
the calls
1)1,
the Co
mptroller of the Currency for reports of condition of
Ilat*
1°43. bara,
there is no requirement of law that these reports be published.
41141 tIleY are regarded by
.aerve a
the Federal reserve banks and the Federal
44"fort to

a4 CO nfidential;
that the Board will be glad to cooperate in

lnake the
desired information as to State member banks available;
at if th
e Public Works
11Zit of
Administration will forward to the Board a
the st
Itkitz
ate member b .s in
which funds of borrowers from the Public
6k1

-.10n

tulka
reDori.

_

are deposited, the Board will address letters to

l'eque ti
8 Ile authority to
furnish the information from the call
mitted by them.




5/14/34

-25The Governor was requested to address a
letter to Mr. Ickes in accordance with the
above suggestion.
Governor Black referred to the Board's telegram of April 28, 1934,

t° 11r. Xewton, Federal Reserve Agent at the
Federal Reserve Bank of San
Prarip4
CO, copies of
Which were sent to all Federal reserve banks, in
the ruling
was made that State member banks are prohibited by the
1)r°visi°48 of section 5136 of the Revised Statutes, which is made app1i4
'
114 to State member
banks by section 9 of the Federal Reserve Act, as
°Lded, from
purchasing stocks upon order and for account of their custotriers
.

/le stated that
he had given the ruling a great deal of considera,
h
ad
dioussed it with Messrs. Wyatt and Vest of Counsel's office,
Mr. '0 COnnor,' Comptroller of the Currency, and Mr. Await, Deputy
Comptroller of the
thitt

Incorrect and that the Board should reconsider the matter and rule
member baall„
,s are not prohibited
by the provisions of law above re_

to
the

Currency, and had reached the conclusion that the nil-

vm purchasing
corporate stocks solely upon the order and for

tte

eclullt of customers.

Governor Black also said that Mr. Robert V.

Vlce P
resident of the American Bankers Association had called
orthim '
414
advised that he
had received telephone calls from various
-arts
extre::the c0114trY indicating that the member banks feel it would be
Ntilit
:
detrimental to the b

effect.
144, ch
ork, 4airman
2

Mr

%.s if the Board's present ruling is

Re also read a letter received from Mr. James H.
of the Board of the National City Bank of New York,

to the

possible Foverse effects of the present ruling.

O'Connor stated
that the same question as regards national




1396
6/14/34

-26-

beJ3ks had been given very
careful consideration in his office following

the

Passage of the Banking Act of 1933, and the conclusion reached that

131 lases of stodk by national banks for the
"
account of customers is
Prohibited by section 5136, of
the Revised Statutes and that, on the
ba.eis of that position, his
office had submitted to Congress a draft of
41enament which
would amend section 5136 by striking out the words "in,Irestraent
securities" in the first line of the second sentence of the
13""tb. paragraph

of the section and inserting in lieu thereof the

WcTds "
stocks, bonds, or securities", which would clearly authorize raem41" to biky and
bel")ilcs
sell corporate stocks for the account of their
ellatomers.
Mr. O'Connor also said that the annual report of the office

°I' the
illg
the

Corr
rptroller of the Currency covering activities for the year end-

October 31,
1933, contains the statement that it would appear from

alacuage of the
seventh paragraph of section 5136 that a national

iktlalt is

prohibited from performing the service of purchasing or selling
e°111)crate
stocks for the account of one of its customers, and that his

"flee had
made the same
reply to a number of inquiries received from
ktttiorlta
bartzs.

A
general discussion ensued during which it was pointed out that
seoorid
sentence of the seventh paragraph of section 5136 provides
t44t t}as
business of
dealing in investment securities by a national bank
13144
be
limited to
purchasing and selling such securities without re-

%1Lrse s°1elY
'upon the
order and for the account of customers and in no
4.1e

tor ite
own.
account, and. that the definition of investment securitieg tts
cont tried
in the
paragraph refers to marketable obligations




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encing indebtedness and not to corporate stocks.

Mr. Await stated

tliM prior to the
amendment to section 5136 by section 16 of the Banking
Act '
31
'1933, the Comptroller's office had taken the position that national
did have the
right to buy corporate stocks for customers, but that
4 Was

felt that inasmuch as the section as
amended stated expressly the

t44113 of

securities which could be purchased by national banks for their

el4it°rnere, which did not include corporate
stocks, it was felt that such
Dllrellasee for account
of customers were prohibited, but that such prohibitIcqadid not
take effect until June 16, 1934.
The

discussion brought out the feeling of the members of the Board

ia view of the
hardship which would apparently result to member banks
Irilthe
ruling, it would be Preferable for the Board and the
Comptroller
tlie Currency
to reverse their rulings pending a clarification of the
sttlite *bY Congress.
Mr. O'Connor stated that it was his opinion that,
()lithe b asis
vi the present law,
the ruling of his office was the correct
4° arid that,
as he had
taken the position that an amendment to the law
waz xxecessa,ry
and had recommended to Congress the passage of such an
arrielldraellt, he aid
1314 that as the s not see how his office could. take a contrary position,
p:e
s::::
:: eant
::ment is in the hands of the committees
i
(11'Coteress it
is
11.1*. Wyatt

may be passed at the Present session.

stated that, in
itsubmitting to the Board with his
_
rIlling recently
made by the Board on this subject, he had
beetx
irtillieliced
largely by the facts
the
that, (1) it was in accordance with
position
taken
by the
D°rt alid
Comptroller of the Currency in his annunl re- ill several
letters written to individual banks; (2) the purpose

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41 the




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(It the provision of Section 9 of the Federal
Reserve Act on this subject
iS to
place national banks and State banks on a basis of eqvinlity with
'
l esPect to
dealings in securities; and (3) this purpose would be effectnated bY having
'
the Board and the Comptroller take the same position on
this subject.
Mr. Wyatt stated that, upon further consideration, however,
he had
readhed the conclusion that the rulings previously made on this
'llbject were
incorrect; because, (1) the sentence in Section 5136 commencille; with
the words, "The business of dealing in
investment securities",
attects only
"investment securities" as defined elsewhere in the section
s° as
riot to
include stocks and, therefore, this sentence has no effect
whatever on
the right of national banks to purchase stocks for the
account
(It
their
customers; (2) the sentence, "Except as hereinafter provided or
otherwise
Permitted by law, nothing herein contained shall authorize the
DIkrchase by
the association of any
shares of stock of any corporation",
131)lies only
to Purchases of stock
by the bank for its own account and
cl(5es not
forbid the
purchase of stocks for the account of customers, the
havinc
construed the word "purchase" as used in Section 32 of the
tan.4
Act of
1963 as not anlAying to brokers who purchase
tor ti
stock only
le
account of
their customers; and (3) therefore, the amendments to
4ctiOh
5136 c
ontained in tae Banking Act of 193 do not affect the right
°t
national
baxiks to
purchase stocks on order and for the account of
thEl'r ellstomers. „_
mr. Wyatt
further stated that, since they are not
Ilecifieetily
authorized to purchase stocks for their customers, the questl04
wheter
natinal
banks nave uch authority irrespective of the amendconi
(Ikke ttio4; 1)14 hein
was
the
t of 1933 might be considered a doubtful
n:ci G
Ban
Ac
of the opinion that the Board could properly rule




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if

the charter powers granted by the various States to State member

banks are broad
enough to permit such banks to purchase corporate stocks
for their
customers, there is nothing in Section 9 of the Federal Reserve
ct
wilen read in connection with Section 5136 of the Revised Statutes,
whie,
would prevent them from doing so.
At the conclusion of the discussion, Mr.
Hamlin moved that the Board reconsider its action
in approving the ruling contained in its telegram
of April 28, 1934, to Mr. Newton.
Carried, Mr. O'Connor voting "no".
Mr. Szymczak moved that Counsel be requested
to prepare a telegram to be dispatched immediately
to the Federal reserve agents at all Federal reserve banks advising that the Board had taken the
position that State member banks are not prohibited
from purchasing corporate stocks solely upon the
order and for the account of customers but not for
their own account.
Carried, Mr. O'Connor voting

193

Itr. O'Connor
stated that one of the provisions of the Banking Act

eliminated the double liability on stock of national banks issued
cLttetJute 16,
1933; that, in his opinion, tne provision was a wise and
ectilitable one
in view of all
the existing circumstances, but that the
IlatiozleLl
banking system
had been weakened thereby inasmuch as none of the
°f
11at10riaa

banks issued since June 16, 1933, provides that additional

Droteetion to
depositors.

He stated that he felt the benefits of the amend-

e°111.ti be
retained and the national banks protected by an amendment to
17
which
would permit
1)1111,
4
the Comptroller of the Currency to require each
azteed
in the
future to add to its surnlus from earnings until the
D1
equals the
zt tee.,
bank's capital. This would have the advantage, he
OfCrub
building up the capital account in times of prosperity
the




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c.,4ould be much more desirable than the practice in the past of relying
ollthe double liability of stockholders which was attempted to be
realized
1:1°11 largely in time of financial
difficulty.

Mr. O'Connor added that he

telt it is desirable that the
amendment be passed at the present time in
°Iler that it
could be applied to the large number of banks which it is contem,'
''"ed will be
organized in the future. Mr. Await advised the Board
that
4°111

thedollble

has been introduced in Congress by Senator McAdoo to remove

liability on the stock of all national banks and that in report-

the bill
the office of the Comptroller of the Currency had stated
that-it
w Old
interpose no objection to the bill if national banks were
re(Lired also
to transfer to surplus before payment of dividends 10',; of
eernillCe until the surplus account is eousl to lW; of the banks'
"tcd- After a
discussion of the proportion of the earnings of a bank
thIcilnliCht be
required by the proposed amendment to be credited to surP14 eac'a Year, M. O'Connor stated that he would appreciate it if
the
°f the
Board would consider the amendment and give him tne benetit
sut3
of
tileir
rPgestions with
regard thereto.

eeti
-

Ilessrs- Await and
McGrath then left the meeting.
G°vernor
---aok stated that the special order of business for this
the co
nsideration of the Annul Report of the Federal Reserve

t" the Year 1933,
but he suggested that, inasmuch as Mr. Miller is
ed to
'4 home by
illness, action on the report be deferred for a
ttrte
-

the 13"rd later in the week at which Mr. Miller is in attendance.
Certain phases of the draft of the Annual
Report were
discussed briefly, but action on
!ae reuort was
deferred in accordance with
uovernor Black's suggestion.




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There were then presented the following applications for original

stock of
Pederal reserve banks:
A li
cations for ORIGINAL Stock:

Shares

t
National Bank in Carteret,
Ca
rteret, New Jersey

72

72

36

36

St ict
hrst N

No. 6.
ational Bank in Tuscumbia,
Tilseurabia, Alabama

District No. 7.
Iturora
National Bank,
Atrora, Illinois

116
Total

116
224

Approved.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary.
41)1)r

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