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Minutes of actions taken by the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System on Tuesday, NAY 13, 1947.

The Board met in

the Board Room at 10:35 a.m.
PRESENT:

Mt.
Mr.
Mt.
Mr.
Mt.

Eccles, Chairman
Szymczak
Draper
Evans
Clayton
Carpenter, Secretary
Sherman, Assistant Secretary
Morrill, Special Adviser
Thurston, Assistant to the Chairman
Smead, Director of the Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Bethea, Director of the Division of
Administrative Services
Mr. Vest, General Counsel
Mr. Nelson, Director of the Division of
Personnel Administration

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Reference was made to a draft of a letter to the Presidents
cf all Federal Reserve Banks, prepared by Mr. Smead pursuant to the
action taken at the meeting of March 28, 1947, requesting that the
Baaks submit preliminary plans and cost estimates for any new construction or major alterations contemplated at head offices or branches
4ith1n the next few years.
'
Chairman Eccles stated that on his visit to the West Coast recently he had talked with Mr. Frank, Chairman of the Portland Branch
board of directors, that Mr. Frank had told him the Portland Branch
lionld face a critical situation for quarters in the near future because the lease on the present space expired at the end of this year




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and could not be renewed, that there was no other suitable space in
Portland available for lease, and that emergency measures were necessary to provide the Branch with facilities as promptly as possible.
Chairman Eccles added that he understood the need for space at the
Seattle Branch also was pressing although it was not so critical as
at Portland, and that he understood some other branches might be faced
with emergency construction. He suggested that full information be obtained on branch building needs that might be of an urgent nature so
that the Board could suggest the necessary legislation to the Congress.
Mr. Vest stated that Senator Sparkman had introduced a bill
(S. 1225) which would remove the limitation on expenditures for Federal Reserve branch buildings in the manner recommended by the Board
to the Chairmen of the Senate and House Banking and Currency Committees
bIlt which had not yet received favorable action, and that the Board had
been asked for a report on the Sparkman bill.
Mr. Carpenter then reported that Messrs. Brainard and Gidney,
Chairman and President,respective1y, of the Federal Reserve Bank of
Cleveland, had asked for an opportunity to came to Washington on Wednes(
IV or Thursday of this week to talk with the Board regarding the possible purchase of the Chamber of Commerce Building in which the Cincinnati
Branch occupies space. He also referred to a memorandum prepared by Mr.
Smead under date of May 12, 1947, which pointed out that the Cleveland




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Bkak owned the lot on which the building stands, that the building
was constructed by the Cincinnati Chamber of Commerce in 1925, that
the Chamber of Commerce was now willing to sell the building for an
amount about equal to original cost less depreciation, and that the
Cleveland Bank held an option to purchase the building which would
expire on July 170 1947.
In response to a question from Chairman Eccles, Mr. Vest
said that in his opinion the statutory limitation on expenditures
for the erection of buildings proper to house the branches of Federal Reserve Banks would not apply literally to the purchase of a
building already erected, but that the legislative history of the
Provision indicated it was the intent of Congress to place a limit
On costs of branch buildings,andthat it would be preferable to have
sPecific authority from Congress for the purchase of the Cincinnati
building. In that connection, Mr. &mead said that some years ago
Congress was asked to authorize the purchase of a building for the
11141ffalo Branch, which might be regarded as somewhat of a precedent.
It was the consensus of the members of the Board present that
it mould be undesirable for the Cleveland Bank to purchase the Cincinnati Chamber of Commerce Building without obtaining authority from
CcIagress, particularly in view of the fact that legislation introduced
at this session of Congress which would remove the limitation had been
rejected by the House Banking and Currency Committee.




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-4Mr. Carpenter said that the draft of proposed letter to the

Federal Reserve Banks requested information on additions to or alterations of head office as well as branch buildings, that the request would require the Banks to employ architects to prepare preliminary plans and specifications in any case where such plans had
not been undertaken already, and that there was a question whether
the Board wanted to require the preparation of such information in
connection with the head offices at this time.
Mr. &mead stated that the Board now had general information
as to the needs of the head offices and sufficient information on
the needs at the branches to be able to determine where emergency
tequirements for additional space might arise in the near future,
and that the Portland situation was probably the most critical one.
There was a discussion of whether any general letter to the
lianks was required at this time or whether the request for additional information might be limited to urgent situations.

Chairman Eccles

stated that he felt the urgent cases should be brought to the attention of Congress promptly in the hope that legislation might be passed
at this session to permit construction or purchase of some buildings,

that this did not seem an appropriate time to make a general survey of
Alture building needs at all Federal Reserve Banks and branches, particularly in view of the fact that some fiscal agency activities probablY would be transferred from the branches to head offices and space




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requirements might change considerably in the near future, and that
it would seem preferable to ask the Federal Reserve Banks only for
information on urgent construction needs so that the Board could answer inquiries that might arise if legislation were introduced to permit such construction.
In a discussion of proposed procedures in connection with possible legislation, Chairman Eccles suggested that the most desirable
course would be to ascertain from Chairman Wolcott of the House Banking and Currency Committee, which had rejected the Board's earlier
Proposal for removing the existing statutory limitation on expenditures for branch buildings, (1) whether there was now a prospect that
such a bill might be passed by the House; (2) if not, whether he (Chairman Wolcott) would introduce and whether there was a chance of passage
of a bill authorizing aggregate expenditures during the next year or so
of 40 or $15 million for the construction (exclusive of the cost of
vaults, permanent equipment, furnishings and fixtures) or purchase of
Federal Reserve branch bank buildings; and (3) if neither of these alternatives appeared feasible, to inform Chairman Wolcott that emergency
situations existed at certain branches of Federal Reserve Banks which
Would be brought to the attention of Congress in order that the neces"
17 legislation might be passed authorizing the construction or purchase of branch bank buildings essential for the continued efficient
0Perati0n of the branches.




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-6It was agreed unanimously (1) that
no general letter asking for preliminary
plans and cost estimates should be sent
to the Federal Reserve Banks at the present time, but that Mr. Smead should obtain such additional information as was
necessary relating to urgent building
needs of Federal Reserve branches; (2)
that Messrs. Brainard and Gidney should
be informed that the Board would be glad
to discuss with them at 10:30 a.m. on
Thursday, May 15, 1947, the question of
the purchase of the building in which the
Cincinnati Branch now occupies space; and
(3) that Chairman Eccles would talk with
Representative Wolcott informally and obtain his views with respect to the feasibility of legislation at this session of
Congress as outlined above, and that a
reply to the request for comments on the
Sparkman bill (S. 1225) be deferred until
Chairman Eccles had discussed the matter
with Representative Wolcott.
Chairman Eccles reported that, as agreed at the meeting on

11, 1947, he had talked by telephone with Mr. Stettinius regarding the possibility of his appointment as a Class C director of

the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond for the unexpired portion of
the term ending December 31, 1949, with the understanding that he
vould be made Chairman and Federal Reserve Agent on January 1, 1948

°I. 1949, depending on what could be worked out with Mr. Wysor, whose
term as a Class C director did not expire until December 31, 1948.

Ile said that Mr. Stettinius seemed interested in the appointment,
knd that he asked for time to consider what rearrangements in his
Personal affairs would be necessary to permit him to accept the




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appointment and attend meetings.

Chairman Eccles went on to say

that, while he was on the West Coast, Mt. Stettinius called at the
Board's offices and talked with Mbssrs. Evans and Thurston regarding the appointment, and said that it would assist him in arranging certain personal affairs and in explaining why he could not
accept a corporation chairmanship if he could say that he was accepting appointment as a Class C director with a view to becoming
Chairman at a later date. Mr. Thurston had gotten the impression
from the conversation that Mr. Stettinius expected to be designated as Chairman, effective January 1, 1948.
There was a discussion of the procedure that might be followed in the matter from this point and of whether it would be adlisable to indicate to Mr. Wysor at this time that he would not be
designated as Chairman and Federal Reserve Agent for the year 1948.
Mr. Evans suggested that he might talk with Mr. Wysor inand say that the Board did not want to embarrass him in
ItaY way, that if the designation of Mr. Stettinius as Chairman for
1948 would be unsatisfactory to Mr. Wysor the Board would not make
the designation until 1949, but that if Mr. Wysor thought that Mr.
8tettiniuss designation would be a good thing the Board would make
it effective January 1, 1948.
There was also a discussion of the question whether, if Mt.
8tettintu8 felt he could not be at the Bank at least twice a month,




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the appointment should be made.




It was agreed unanimously that
Chairman Eccles should talk with Ni'.
Stettinius again and advise him substantially as follows:
That the matter had been discussed further by the Board, that
Mr. Wysor had been appointed Chairman for this year after having served
as Deputy Chairman for several years,
that Mr. McCormick of Baltimore had
succeeded Mr. Wysor as Deputy Chairman, and that to ask Mt. Wysor to give
up his Chairmanship and continue only
as a Class C director might make him
feel he was being asked to step out
and might be the cause of resentment.
In these circumstances the Board felt
that it would be preferable not to
make a change in the existing situation until Mr. Wysorts term as a Class
C director expired at the end of 1948
when a vacancy in the Chairmanship of
the Bank would arise in the usual course.
The Board hoped that Mt. Stettinius would
be able to accept appointment as a Class
C director and attend meetings once a
month with the understanding that he
would be appointed Chairman of the Richmond Bank effective not later than January 1, 1949, at which time he would arrange his affairs to be at the Bank at
least twice a month. It was also understood that if Mt. Stettinius was not
willing to consider the appointment on
any other basis than that he would be
appointed Chairman as of January 1, 1948,
the Board would reconsider the matter and
decide whether it would talk with Mr. Wysor
about his not continuing as Chairman after
this year.

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Mr. Evans referred to a memorandum prepared by Mr. Bethea

under date of April 18, 1947, relating to the use of the leased
telephone line from the Board's offices to the Federal Reserve
Bank of New York via Philadelphia. He stated that a survey of
the use of this line had been made at his request with the thought
that a substantial saving to the System might be effected if the
line could be discontinued, leaving one direct leased telephone
line between the Board's offices and the Federal Reserve Bank of
New York, that it was the consensus of division heads that the
second line to New York via Philadelphia should be continued, and
that the New York and Philadelphia Banks both felt the additional
line was necessary.
There was a discussion of the desirability of limiting the
use of the telephone lines to New York, and it was the consensus
that, in view of the comments contained in Mr. Bethea's memorandum,
no change in the leased wires should be made at this time.
Reference was made to a draft of a letter to Senator Revercomb, prepared in response to a routine request from his office for
a repot on a proposed bill (S. 1156) to establish a Missouri Valley
Authority which among other things provided for the establishment of
4 COMMittee

to act in an advisory capacity to the Authority on cer-

tein matters and upon which the Board of Governors would have a representative. The draft of reply stated that the responsibilities




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and experience of the Board related chiefly to monetary and financial matters and that it was not in a position to comment on the
bill other than to suggest that it not provide for representation
of the Board on the advisory committee.
Chairman Eccles stated that he also had received a letter
from Senator Murray, who introduced the bill, stating that he would
like to discuss the bill with Chairman Eccles in the near future,
and that in the meantime he had asked Mr. Dewey Anderson, who was
handling the bill for him, to meet with experts from the Board's
staff to discuss the provisions of the bill in some detail.

Chair-

man Eccles went on to say that it seemed to him the Board should not
take a position which might be interpreted as indicating that it had
little or no interest in legislation which, if enacted, would have a
marked influence upon economic and social developments in a large
sector of the United States, and that he would suggest that a reply
to the routine inquiry from Senator Ravercomb be deferred and that
Senator Murray be informed that while the Board had no direct resPonsibility in the field of the bill and therefore had no one in
its

organization who could be called expert in the important ques-

tions which the bill raises, the Board was interested in the questions and would be glad to have members of the staff available to
confer with Mr. Anderson and give him any assistance they could.




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-11It was agreed unanimously that (1)
no reply to the routine inquiry received
from Senator Revercomb asking for comments upon the bill should be made at
this time, and that (2) Chairman Eccles
should send a letter to Senator Murray
along the lines suggested above, and
that Messrs. Vest, Morrill, and Thurston
should discuss the proposed legislation
with Mr. Anderson.
At this point Mr. Townsend entered the meeting and Messrs.

8smead and Bethea left.
Mr. Townsend stated that he had received word by telephone
that the Department of Justice this morning had authorized the issuance of a writ of certiorari in the Peoples Bank case as requested
ta the Board's letter dated May 12, 1947, from Chairman Eccles to the
Acting Solicitor General.
Messrs. Sherman, Thurston, Vest, Nelson, and Townsend then
left the meeting.
Chairman Eccles stated that the Senate Banking and Currency
Committee had called hearings on the bank holding company bill (S. 829)
to begin on May 20, 1947, that the Board would not have an opportunity
Until that date to discuss with the Federal Advisory Council the views
of the Council on the bill„ and that, therefore, he had suggested that

the hearings be postponed for a few days. He also related the circumstances surrounding the request which had been received while he
Ilss in the West from representatives of the bank holding company




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grouPs that a representative of the Board meet with them to discuss
the provisions of the bill and certain suggestions that the representatives had to make in connection with it.

In response to that

request, he said, Mr. Townsend went to New York for that purpose
and was able to outline the objectives of the bill and the extent
of its coverage, but that he had made no commitments of any kind
as to any suggested amendments.

Chairman Eccles went on to say

that he and Mr. Townsend were to meet with representatives of the
holding company groups this week to discuss their proposed amendDients so that when the hearings were held the Board would be in a
Position to say what, if any, of the amendments suggested by the
bank holding company representatives, the independent bankers' associations, the Federal Advisory Council, or others, the Board would
be Willing to accept. He added that he understood that the American
Bankers Association felt that it should take no official position
With respect to the bill.
Mr. Evans stated that some of the members of the official
staff of the Board would reach retirement age in the course of the
llext year or so, which presented to the Board certain problems with
l'ssPect to their successors and possible changes that might be made
in the organization
of the staff in connection with such retirements.
He said that the Personnel Committee had been giving some consideration
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time, but that the Committee would suggest that it be understood that
the Committee would continue its studies in consultation with approPilate members of the staff and submit recommendations for consideration by the Board at such time in the future as in the judgment of
the Committee action is called for.
The suggestion of the Committee
was approved unanimously.
The action stated with respect to each of the matters hereinafter set forth was then taken by the Board:
Minutes of actions taken by the Board of Governors of the Fedel'al Reserve System on May 12, 1947, were approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Diercks, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
Bank of Chicago, reading as follows:
"The Board of Governors has given consideration to
Your inquiry with regard to the applicability of standard condition of membership numbered 3, or a similar condition of membership, to the activity of two State member
banks in your district, both of which are selling to other
banks in some volume, without recourse, real estate mortgages which they will continue to service for a consideration.
"It is noted that both member banks are selling such
mortgages at no premium, that each bank has now invested
the aggregate amount in real estate mortgages it is permitted to invest under the limitations imposed by State
law and that an active demand for such loans continues
in the community served by each. However, these considerations do not appear to have a direct bearing upon the
applicability of the condition of membership.
"A condition of membership having substantially the
same effect as the present standard condition numbered 3
has been prescribed for all State banks applying for membership since March 1933. One of the practices that proved




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"most harmful to a number of banks in some sections had
been that of selling real estate mortgages or participations therein to the general public with a guarantee
expressed or implied, or in circumstances causing the
purchasers to assume that such mortgages would be repurchased upon request. Often such obligations were
sold without an expressed guarantee or even with the
Provision that they were sold without recourse but the
issuing or selling bank had freely repurchased them upon demand over so long a time that the holders had been
led to believe that they were, in fact, obligations of
the bank payable on demand. In prescribing the condition of membership, the Board had in mind particularly
sales of mortgages to the general public who were not
in a position to evaluate real estate loans and might
consider the bank at least morally obligated to make
good any loss sustained.
"It is to be assumed that a bank or other financial institution, such as an insurance company, purchasing real estate loans from a bank, without recourse, is qualified to appraise such loans and would
have no reason to feel that the selling bank acts as
guarantor of the soundness of the investment. Therefore, the Board of Governors will not consider the sale
of real estate mortgages by a State member bank to other
banks or financial institutions, such as insurance companies, without recourse, as coming within the purview
of standard condition of membership numbered 3, or a
similar condition of membership.
"While the purpose and effect of the foregoing is
to remove from the scope of the condition of membership
transactions of the kind set forth, it should be noted
that any abuses or unsafe or unsound practices arising
in such activity remain subject to supervisory criticism and correction."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. T. Schlesinger, Vice President, Allied Stores
C°1Torat1on, 1440 Broadway, New York, New York, reading as follows:
"This is with reference to your letter of May 3,
1947, in which you suggest that Regulation W be abandoned.




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"It has not seemed to the Board that any change
in the regulation would be advisable at the present
time. With employment and incomes high and the supply of spendable funds excessive, credit beyond that
naw available could only waste itself in stimulating
undesirable price rises and retarding needed price
adjustments. Moreover, if consumers incur heavy debt
at a time like the present when incomes are high, they
Will be faced with the problem of curtailing expenditures later when conditions may not be so favorable.
"As to the elimination of vacuum cleaners, the
Board has concluded that no single article can be
treated in a class by itself. The market is interdependent and a relaxation at one point amounts to a
relaxation for the whole. Furthermore, it would not
appear that terms of one-third down and fifteen months
are unreasonably severe for vacuum cleaners in comparison with other items.
"We are glad to have your letter and assure you
that the aspects you mention are having the careful
consideration of the Board."




Approved unanimously.