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Minutes for

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

March

5, 1962

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard to
the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will advise
the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, please initial
below. If you were present at the meeting, your
initials will indicate approval of the minutes. If
you were not present, your initials will indicate
only that you have seen the minutes.

Chin. Martin
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson
Gov. King
Gov. Mitchell

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Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
on Monday, March 5, 1962.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Robertson
Shepardson
King
Mitchell
Sherman, Secretary
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Thomas, Adviser to the Board
Young, Adviser to the Board and Director,
Division of International Finance
Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board
Mr. Spencer, General Assistant, Office of
the Secretary
Messrs. Noyes, Holland, Koch, Williams, Brill,
Dembitz, Solomon, Gehman, Partee, Weiner,
Wernick, Wood, and Yager, and Miss Dingle
of the Division of Research and Statistics
Messrs. Furth, Katz, Irvine, Reynolds, and Mills
of the Division of International Finance
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Economic review.

The Divisions of International Finance and

Research and Statistics presented a review of economic and financial
developments in the United States and abroad.
Following discussion based on this review, all members of the
staff except Messrs. Sherman, Kenyon, Young, Molony, Fauver, Noyes,
Williams, and Spencer withdrew from the meeting and the following
entered the room:
Mr. Hackley, General Counsel
Mr. Solomon, Director, Division of Examinations
Mr. Farrell, Director, Division of Bank Operations
Mr. Leavitt, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations

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Items circulated or distributed to the Board.

The following

items, which had been circulated or distributed to the members of the
Board and copies of which are attached to these minutes under the
respective item numbers indicated, were approved unanimously:
Item No.
Letter to Bankers International Financing Company,
Inc., New York, New York, granting permission to
purchase shares of La Anglo Argentina S. A. Compania
de Seguros, Buenos Aires, Argentina.

1

Letter to The Cleveland Trust Company, Cleveland,
Ohio, approving the establishment of a branch at
Broadview and Snow Roads, Parma.

2

With respect to Item No. 1, Governor Robertson indicated that
while he would vote for approval of this proposed stock acquisition,
which was similar to other proposals that the Board had approved, he
questioned whether the Board was not getting rapidly into a situation
Where it was approving investments abroad more than arrangements for
facilitating financial operations.
Interpretation of regulations affecting national banks (Item No. 3).
There had been circulated a draft of letter to the Comptroller of the
Currency prepared by the Legal Division in response to a memorandum dated
January 31, 1962, from Mr. Taylor, Deputy Comptroller, addressed to files.
Mr. Taylor's memorandum suggested, in essence, that arrangements be worked
out with the Board and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation whereby
the two agencies might avoid rendering interpretations of their regulations
on matters involving new programs of national banks until the Comptroller
considered the policy aspects.

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Discussion of the draft letter resulted in a question being
raised as to whether it was necessary to reply to the memorandum.
However, it was pointed out that a copy of the Deputy Comptroller's
memorandum had been sent direct to the Chairman with the personal card
of the Comptroller attached, and in light of those circumstances it was
agreed that a reply would be appropriate to clear the record.
The view also was expressed that one part of the proposed letter
should be revised in order to spell out more fully certain aspects of
one situation alluded to by Mr. Taylor, in which the Board had not
received an inquiry but a member bank's proposal had been discussed
with the Reserve Bank of the district concerned.

Agreement also was

expressed with certain further changes in the letter suggested by
Mr. Hackley.

Unanimous approval then was given to a letter to the

Comptroller in the form attached as Item No.

3.

Presidential message concerning consumer protection.

Mr. Sherman

reported that on Friday afternoon, March 2, the Board received from the
Bureau of the Budget a draft of a contemplated Presidential message
concerning consumer protection. In this connection, the Bureau requested
that any suggestions, accompanied by a written statement of reasons, be
submitted not later than March

5.

(In a letter dated February 9, 1962,

the Board had written to the Budget Bureau regarding an outline of such
a message on which the Bureau had invited comments.)
Messrs. Noyes and Hackley, in response to a request for comment

on the matter) pointed out that a section of the message not covered in

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the earlier outline recommended insuring shareholdings in Federally
chartered credit unions, in a manner comparable to the insurance of
bank deposits and share accounts in savings and loan associations.
This was an area where the Board might wish to express an opinion,
particularly since the Board in 1.956 had expressed itself adversely
on a proposal of that kind.

Otherwise, however, no issues were raised

by the proposed message that seemed to the staff to raise the question
of submitting comments.
After discussion regarding the proposed message, including its
tenor and scope, it was concluded that comments at this stage probably
would not be too effective.

Accordingly, agreement was expressed with

a suggestion that the Budget Bureau be advised informally that the
Board had no comments.
Secretary's Note: Subsequent to the
meeting, Mr. Hackley telephoned Mr. Reeve
of the Bureau of the Budget and informed
him that the Board had no comments with
respect to the draft of Presidential
message.
Meeting with representatives of National Association of
Supervisors of State Banks.

Mr. Sherman reported that the Executive

Committee and Advisory Council of the National Association of Supervisors
of State Banks would be meeting in Washington next week.

In this connection,

the Association had expressed a desire to arrange a meeting of its representatives with the Board to discuss matters of general interest.
Board was agreeable to such a meeting,

Mr.

If the

Sherman said, it seemed that

the morning of March 13 would be a convenient time.

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-5After a brief discussion, it was understood that arrangements

would be made on the basis indicated.
International Monetary Fund meetings.

Mr. Young reported that

under the Articles of the International Monetary Fund consultations had
been required with member countries maintaining foreign exchange
restrictions.

With the establishment of convertibility in 1958, it

was the feeling of the Fund directors that such consultations nevertheless should be continued and expanded, with the result that this year
for the first time there would be a formal Fund consultation with the
United States Government.

The meetings would begin this afternoon and

continue over a period of several days.
Mr. Young then described the nature of the several meetings in
the series and indicated the extent to which the Board would be
represented at them.
Travel by Mr. Young.

The Board authorized travel by Ralph A.

Young, Adviser to the Board and Director, Division of International
Finance, to attend a meeting at the Bank for International Settlements
in Basle, Switzerland, on March 10-11, 1962, on an actual expense basis,
including official entertainment.
The meeting then adjourned.

Secretaryis Note: Pursuant to
recommendations contained in
memoranda from appropriate

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individuals concerned, Governor
Shepardson today approved on behalf
of the Board the following actions
relating to the Boardls staff:
Appointments
Jack M. Egertson as Review Examiner in the Division of Examinations,
with basic annual salary at the rate of $11,155, effective the date of
entrance upon duty, with the understanding that he would be reimbursed
for his moving expenses from Chicago, Illinois, to Washington, D. C.,
including transportation and per diem while in travel status.
Boris C. Swerling as Senior Economist, Division of International
Finance, with basic annual salary at the rate of $14,3801 effective the
date of entrance upon duty.
Acceptance of resignation
Maynard S. Comiez, Economist, Division of Research and Statistics,
effective at the close of business, March 18, 1962.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

Item No. 1
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WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

March

5, 1962

Bankers International Financing
Company, Inc.,
16 Wall Street,
New York 15, New York.
Gentlemen:
In accordance with your request and on the basis of the inforMation furnished in your letter of January 31, 1962, transmitted through
the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the Board of Governors grants consent for Bankers International Financing Company, Inc. to purchase and
hold 670 shares, par value M$N 100 each, of the capital stock of La Anglo
Argentina S. A. Compania de Seguros, Buenos Aires, Argentina, at a cost
not to exceed US$37,000, provided such stock is acquired within one year
from the date of this letter.
The Board's consent is granted upon condition that Bankers
International Financing Company, Inc. shall dispose of its holdings of
stock in the Argentine company, as promptly as practicable, in the event
that the Argentine company should at any time (1) engage in issuing,
tInderwriting, selling or distributing securities in the United States;
(2) engage in the general business of buying or selling goods, wares,
Merchandise, or commodities in the United States or transact any business
ta the United States except such as is incidental to its international or
foreign business; or (3) otherwise conduct its operations in a manner
Which, in the judgment of the Board of Governors, causes the continued
holding of its stock by Bankers International Financing Company, Inc. to
be inappropriate under the provisions of Section 25(a) of the Federal
Reserve Act or regulations thereunder.
Please advise the Board of Governors, through the Federal Reserve
Bank of New York, when the acquisition of stock has been made.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

Item No. 2
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FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

March 5, 1962

Board of Directors,
The Cleveland Trust Company,
Cleveland, Ohio.
Gentlemen:
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System approves the establishment of a branch by The
Cleveland Trust Company, Cleveland, Ohio, in the Midtown
Shopping Center at the northwest corner of the intersection of Broadview and Snow Roads, Parma, Ohio, provided
the branch is established within six months from the date
of this letter.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Elizabeth L. Carmichael
Elizabeth L. Carmichael,
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

Item No. 3

3/5/62

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

CABLE ADDRESS:..FIEDREHEIRIVIV,

March 5, 1962.

The Honorable James J. Saxon,
Comptroller of the Currency,
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Mr. Saxon:
We recently received from your Office a copy of an office
memorandum from Mr. Taylor to the Files, dated January 31, 1962,
suggesting that an arrangement be worked out whereby the Federal
Reserve and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation might avoid
rendering interpretations of their regulations with respect to
Matters involving new programs of national banks until the Comptroller
Of the Currency has had an opportunity to consider the policy aspects
Of such programs. The memorandum refers to occasions on which national banks had already embarked upon extensive advertising before
Your Office had had an opportunity to pass upon the acceptability of
the promotions. It also mentions a few instances, such as the
adoption by the Citizens and Southern National Bank of Atlanta of
lts so-called "savings bonds" program, in which a national bank has
received the opinion of the Federal Reserve or the FDIC with respect
to the legal aspects of the proposed program.
It has been the general practice of the Board in the past
to consult with your Office, formally or informally, with respect
to any inquiry regarding the applicability of a regulation of the
toard to a national bank where it appeared that the matter might also
involve a question of supervisory policy from the point of view of
the Comptroller's Office. Thus, in a number of instances, communicaions received by the Board with respect to newspaper advertisements
QY national banks regarding rates of interest on time and savings
IlePosits have been referred to your Office for consideration even
they may also involve questions as to the applicability of
the
Ole Board's Regulation Q. For example, there was recently referred
,*() Your Office a letter from a Federal Reserve Bank transmitting an
'nquiry as to whether it is appropriate for a national bank to ad?rtise the issuance of time certificates of deposit in the form of
bank savings bonds".

BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

The Honorable James J. Saxon

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In this connection, it may be mentioned that no direct
request was received by the Board for a determination as to whether
the issuance of so-called "savings bonds" by the Citizens and Southern
on Q,
National Bank of Atlanta was in compliance with the Board's Regulati
National
this
and the Board did not pass upon that question. However,
Bank informally discussed the question with the Federal Reserve Bank of
Atlanta; and, when the matter came to the attention of the Board's
staff, the question as to the appropriateness of the use of the term
"Savings bonds" was taken up informally with the staff of your Office.
Efforts will continue to be made to see that any inquiry
banks
coming to the Board involving new programs undertaken by national
into
will be brought to the attention of your Office if, in addition
question
any
raise
volving the Board's regulations, the inquiry appears to
Of policy with which your Office may be concerned.
Very truly yours,
c
Merritt Sherp n,
Secrefk.