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Minutes for March 4, 1959

To:

Members of the Board

From:

Office of the Secretary

Attached is a copy of the minutes of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on
the above date.
It is not proposed to include a statement
with respect to any of the entries in this set of
minutes in the record of policy actions required to
be maintained pursuant to section 10 of the Federal
Reserve Act.
Should you have any question with regard
to the minutes, it will be appreciated if you will
advise the Secretary's Office. Otherwise, if you
were present at the meeting, please initial in column A below to indicate that you approve the minutes.
If you were not present, please initial in column B
below to indicate that you have seen the minutes.

Chin. Martin
Gov. Szymczak
Gov. Mills
Gov. Robertson
Gov. Balderston
Gov. Shepardson

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Minutes of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
on Wednesday, March
PRESENT:

4, 1959.

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The Board met in the Board Room at 10:00 a.m.

Martin, Chairman
Balderston, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
Mills
Robertson
Shepardson
Sherman, Secretary
Kenyon, Assistant Secretary
Thomas, Economic Adviser to the Board
Hackley, General Counsel
Farrell, Director, Division of Bank Operations
Molony, Special Assistant to the Board
Noyes, Adviser, Division of Research and
Statistics
Mr. Robinson, Adviser, Division of Research and
Statistics
Mr. Solomon, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Nelson, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Goodman, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Benner, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Smith, Assistant Director, Division of
Examinations
Mr. Conkling, Assistant Director, Division of
Bank Operations
Mr. Hill, Assistant to the Secretary
Mr. Hald, Economist, Division of Research and
Statistics

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Discount rates.

Unanimous approval was given to a telegram

to the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta approving the establishment
Without change by that Bank on March 2, 1959, of the rate3on discounts
and advances in its existing schedule.
Items circulated to the Board.

The following items, which had

been circulated to the Board and copies of which are attached to these




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minutes under the respective item numbers indicated, were approved
unanimously:
Item No.
1

Letter to The Chase Manhattan Bank, New York City,
authorizing the establishment of a branch in Panama
in temporary quarters pending the availability of
permanent quarters. (For transmittal through the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York)
Letter to The Home State Bank of South Milwaukee,
South Milwaukee, Wisconsin, waiving the requirement
Of six months' notice of withdrawal from membership
in the Federal Reserve System. (For transmittal
through the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago)
Letter to the St. Cloud National Bank, St. Cloud,
Minnesota, approving its application to exercise
fiduciary powers. (For transmittal through the
Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis)

4

Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
interposing no objection to an expenditure of approximately $19,700 to convert elevator equipment in the
Seattle Branch building to self-service operation.
Maximum rates on time and savings deposits (Item No. 5).

In a

letter dated January 26, 1959, The Chase Manhattan Bank, New York, New
York, which last Pall suggested a liberalization of the maximum rates
Of interest payable on time and savings deposits under Regulation Q,
proposed a new schedule of maximum permissible rates involving even
greater liberalization.

Under the new proposal, the ceiling for time

deposits maturing in six months or more and for savings deposits would
both be increased from 3 per cent to 3-1/2 per cent.

The member bank

also suggested the development of a formula approach whereby the maximum




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rate at which new deposits could be accepted would be related to moving
average Treasury bill rates.

In a letter dated February 18,

1959, the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York submitted an analysis of the Chase
Manhattan proposal and recommended, for reasons stated, a revision of
the time deposit rate schedule to provide a maximum rate of

4 per cent

on deposits maturing in 90 days or more and a maximum rate of 1 per cent
on deposits maturing in 30 to 89 days.
would continue for savings deposits.

The present maximum of

3 per cent

Both Chase Manhattan and the Reserve

Bank suggested a degree of urgency in the matter, one principal factor
appearing to be the competitive loss of short-term funds to Canada,
Partly from time deposit accounts in money market banks.

The Reserve

Bank proposed that any announcement of higher maximum rates for time
deposits be accompanied by an explanation to the effect that the ceilings
were being set well above current market rates in order to allow full
expression of market forces and the play of competition for the category
of bank deposits most clearly identified with the money market.
A memorandum from Mr. Young, distributed to the Board under
date of March

3, 1959, summarized both the Chase and the New York

Reserve Bank proposals and presented the staff view that no action to
change the existing maximum rates was needed at this time.

The memo-

randum raised the question whether higher rate ceilings on time deposits
hold
under Regulation Q should appropriately be used in an effort to
volatile foreign money in the United States market against the




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competition of higher rates elsewhere as long as the maxima were in
keeping with the domestic structure of money rates.

While domestic

money rates were admittedly close to the existing regulatory structure,
the need for more latitude was not thought to have been proved, and it
was noted that the Treasury financing problem would be complicated if
higher permissible rates on time deposits should result in higher money
rates generally.

Furthermore, the earnings of the commercial banking

System as a whole would not be able to carry much higher interest
rates on deposits unless investment liquidity were materially reduced.
Finally, the increase in the savings deposit rate included in the Chase
recommendation would be embarrassing to the United States savings bond
program.
In commenting on the memorandum, Mr. Robinson pointed out that
money rates were higher when the Board increased the maximum rate to

3 per cent than at present. Moreover, adoption of either the Chase or
the Reserve Bank proposal, particularly the latter, would involve
something of a change in regulatory philosophy.

The Reserve Bank

plan,

by establishing a single maximum rate for time deposits with maturities
of 90 days and longer, would allow the payment of a rate up to

4 per cent

on about 98 per cent of foreign-owned time deposits held by large New York
City banks as of a recent date, thus raising the question whether such
a plan would be consistent with the statutory requirement that the Board
prescribe different maximum rates for time deposits having different




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maturities.

While there might be some argument for opening up more

"air space" to permit the holding of volatile foreign deposits on the
theory that the large banks engaged in that business were able to take
care of themselves, the Reserve Bank plan would in effect amount to
establishing one rule for such banks and another for the smaller banks
Principally concerned with savings deposits.

Also, while it might be

argued that banks needed more latitude in order to attract savings in
competition with available yields on tax-exempt securities, it was hard
to see how they could profitably pay a rate higher than

3

per cent in

view of existing market rates.
In a further discussion of regulatory philosophy, Mr. Thomas
questioned the principle implied in the Chase and the Reserve Bank's
Proposals that commercial banks should be permitted to compete for and
pay interest on volatile funds.

If so, it might be said that they

should be permitted to pay interest on demand deposits.

It might also

be said that time deposits of this character should carry a higher
reserve requirement than other time deposits and that the supervisory
authorities should require the maintenance of a higher degree of
liquidity against such deposits.
Governor Mills expressed agreement with the staff recommendation
but suggested that there were theoretical and philosophical considerations
in this area deserving of study.

He thought a decision was necessary at

some time as to whether there was a clear division between what a
commercial bank was organized to provide as a medium for savings and




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what it should be in a position to provide as an instrument for
investment.

In his judgment, a commercial bank

was not intended

to be a vehicle for offering instruments of an investment character;
instead, its function should be that of a facility for the accumulatIon
of savings.

Another consideration was that the statute underlying

Regulation Q tended to involve the Federal Reserve in a degree of
paternalism and regulatory protection over member banks so they would
not become involved in competitive practices such as to subvert the
quality of their assets.

Going one step further, the question was one

Of the extent of the Board's responsibility for preventing practices
that might produce a trend toward monopoly.

If a vide latitude in the

rates of interest that could be paid on savings deposits were permitted,
banks located outside the metropolitan areas might be tempted to pay
higher interest rates, for if they did not pay such rates a tendency
could develop for corraunity savings to flow to the larger centers.
Thus, over the course of time one could foresee elimination of the
mnaller banks that now provide a community service and an important
vehicle for the accumulation of savings.
After Governors Shepardson and Szymczak expressed agreement
With the staff view, Governor Balderston likewise expressed agreement,
Particularly since any increase in the time deposit rates paid by domestic
commercial banks might only result in higher rates elsewhere, including
Canada.




However, he concurred in Governor Mills' observation that the

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principles embodied in the statutes ought to be reexamined from time
to time, since it was quite possible that the banking structure had
changed since the date of adoption of those statutes.

Perhaps

sufficiently
instinctively, he felt that the New York banks were not
encouraged to pull their weight in the financing of world trade.

While

this might be attributable to the existence of more lucrative opportunites
at home, he questioned whether the current pattern of Governmental
banking
regulation was working out to the fullest advantage of the
institutions and the nation.

Therefore, although difficult adminis-

and time
trative problems would be encountered in separating savings
reexamine
deposits for regulatory purposes, it would seem advisable to
the entire subject.
too, questions
After Mr. Robinson indicated that within the staff,
time permitted
existed in this area, Chairman Martin suggested that when
tion
it would be desirable for the staff to prepare for the Board's considera
a study evaluating the whole regulatory framework.
the matter,
Following further discussion of various aspects of
g the Chase
including reports that had appeared in the press concernin
change should be
Manhattan request, it was agreed unanimously that no
made at the present time in the maximum permissible rates of interest
prescribed in the supplemc.itto Regulation Q.

It was understood that a

Reserve
letter reflecting this decision would be sent to the Federal
on the
Bank of New York, that Mr. Molony would reply to any inquiries
and that he and
subject in terms of the decision reached by the Board,




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Mr. Sherman would get in touch with the staff of the New York Reserve
Bank with a view to coordinating the basis of response to inquiries.
A copy of the letter sent pursuant to this action is attached as
Item No. 5.
All of the members of the staff except Messrs. Sherman, Kenyon,
Hackley, Farrell, Smith, and Hill then withdrew and Messrs. Connell,
Controller, and Kakalec, Budget and Planning Assistant, Office of the
Controller, entered the meeting.
Performance under 1958 Board budget.

A report on performance

under the Board's budget for 1958, prepared by the Office of the
Controller, had been distributed to the Board under date of February
17, 1959.

The report indicated that the Board's expenses for 1958

amounted to $5,972,931, a sum $362,463 less than the $6,335,394 budgeted.
The decision to rent rather than purchase electronic computing equipment
was the principal reason for the net underexpenditure.
After commenting on various aspects of the report, Mr. Connell
recommended approval of those budget account overexpenditures not heretofore approved by the Board, most of which had not become apparent until
December expense reports were prepared in Jamovry 1959.
Thereupon, the Board accepted the budget performance report and
aPproved the overexpenditures in certain account classifications to which
Mr. Connell had referred.




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-9Comparison of miscellaneous expenses for 1957 and 1958.

As

requested during discussion of the Price Waterhouse audit report at
the meeting on February 26, 1959, the Controller had prepared under
date of March. 2) 1959, a detailed comparative statement of miscellaneous
Board expenses for the years 1957 and 1958.
After a short discussion of the information contained therein,
the report vas noted without objection.
Messrs. Connell and Kakalec then withdrew from the meeting.
Report of examination of the Federal Reserve Bank of Nev York.
There had been circulated to the Board, with the customary supporting
memoranda from the Division of Examinations, the report of examination
of the Federal Reserve Bank of New, York as of November 7, 1958.
At the Board's request, Mr. Smith reviewed various matters
developed during the examination, making particular reference to those
items which were the subject of special comment in the Examination
Division's summary memorandum of February 16, 1959.
During the discussion that followed, Governor Mills raised
a question in connection with the costs of the Nassau County Clearing
House Association, Inc., part of which are absorbed by the New York
Reserve Bank, and it vas understood

that current information on this

subject would be developed for the Board by the Division of Bank Operations.
Reference then was made by Governor Robertson to the difference
between the sale price and the book value of the premises formerly




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occupied by the Buffalo Branch. After some discussion of the circumstances
involved in the sale of the property, it vas agreed

to ask the Federal

Reserve Bank to provide a complete statement on the matter for the
Board's records.

The meeting then adjourned.

Secretary's Note: On March 3, 1959, Governor
Shepardson approved on behalf of the Board
the folloving items:
Memoranda from appropriate individuals concerned recommending
the following actions affecting the Board's staff:
Salary increases, effective March 8, 1959

Name and title

Division

Basic annual salary
To
From
0..1••••

Office of the Secretary
Katherine E. Olson, Records Clerk

$3,850

$3,945

Research and Statistics
Virginia C. Gunter, Statistical Assistant
William J. Smith, Jr., Economist
Georgine Winslett, Clerk-Typist

4,490
7,270
1,843

4164o
7,510 1
1,890!

5,730
3,850

5,985
14-,O40

5,130

5,280

6,135

6,285

Bank Operations
Seymour Golodner, Analyst
Judith J. McGrain, Secretary 2/
Examinations
Alex J. Harris, Jr., Assistant Federal Reserve
Examiner
John A. Lovejoy, Assistant Federal Reserve
Examiner

1/ Half-time basis.
2/ Change in title from Clerk-Stenographer to Secretary.




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Salary increases, effective March 8, 1959 (continued)
Basic annual salary
To
From

Division

Name and title

Examinations
Andrew N. Thompson, Supervisory Review Examiner
Robert N. Westmoreland, Jr., Assistant Federal
Reserve Examiner

$13,070

$13,370

5,430

5,580

5,130

5,280

Office of the Controller
Jean S. Glascock, Secretary
Transfer, effective March 8, 1959
Nancy A. Milner, from the position of Clerk-Stenographer in the
Division of Personnel Administration to the position of Statistical
Clerk in the Division of Research and Statistics, with no change in
her basic annuA3 salary at the rate of $3,850.
Letter to the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond (attached Item No. 6)
approving the appointment of Jack H. Wyatt as assistant examiner.




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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

Item No. 1
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FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONOENCE
TO THE ISOARD

March

4, 1959.

Mr. Charles Cain, Jr.,
Executive Vice President,
The Chase Manhattan Bank,
New York 15, New York.
Dear Mr. Cain:
ry 21,
Reference is made to the Board's letter of Janua
an additional branch
1959, authorizing your bank to establish
corner of Via Espana
in the city of Panama, to be located at the
a, Republic of Panama.
and Aquilino de la Guardia Street, Panam
letter of
In accordance with the request in your
n furnished,
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the
of
basis
January 22, 1959, and on the
the branch
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the Board of Governors autho
of Avenida Manuel Espinosa
in temporary quarters at the corner
ng completion of quarters
pendi
es,
and Avenida Eusebio A. Moral
at the permanent location.
writing,
Please advise the Board of Governors in
the branch
when
York,
New
of
Bank
ve
through the Federal Reser
in temporary quarters
is established and opened for business
permanent location.
the
to
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and also when the branch
in the permanent
made
be
will
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chang
It is understood that no
val of the Board
location of the branch without the prior appro
of Governors.




Very truly yours,

(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon
Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

Item No. 2
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FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON 25. D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

March 4, 1959.

Board of Directors,
The Home State Bank of South Milwaukee,
South Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Gentlemen:
The Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago has forwarded to
the Board of Governors your letter of February 11, 1959, and the
accompanying copy of a resolution signifying your intention to
withdraw from membership in the Federal Reserve System and
requesting waiver of the six months' notice of such withdrawal.
In accordance with your request, the Board of Governors
waives the requirement of six months' notice of withdrawal. Upon
surrender, to the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, of the Federal
Reserve Bank stock issued to your institution such stock will be
cancelled and appropriate refund will be made thereon. Under
the provisions of Section 10(c) of the Board's Regulation H, as
amended effective September 1, 1952, your institution may
accomplish termination of its membership at any time within eight
months from the date the notice of intention to withdraw from
membership was given.
It is requested that the certificate of membership be
sent to the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.
It is noted that your bank has been advised regarding
the continuance of insurance of deposits by the Federal Deposit
inurance Corporation.




Very truly yours,

(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon
Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

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Item No. 3

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

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March 4, 1959.

Board of Directors,
St. Cloud National Bank,
St. Cloud, Minnesota.
Gentlemen:
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
has given consideration to your application for fiduciary
powers and grants you authority to act, when not in contravention of State or local law, as trustee, executor, administrator,
registrar of stocks and bonds, guardian of estates, assignee,
receiver, committee of estates of lunatics, or in any other
fiduciary capacity in which State banks, trust companies, or
other corporations which come into competition with national
banks are permitted to act under the laws of the State of
Minnesota, the exercise of all such rights to be subject to the
provisions of Section 11(k) of the Federal Reserve Act and
ReTalation F of the Board of Governors of the Federal ieserve
System.
A formal certificate indicating the fiduciary powers
Which 'it. Cloud National Bank is now authorized to exercise ;All
he forwarded to you in due course.




Very truly yours,

(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon
Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

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orriciAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE SOAR°

4, 1959.

Mr. H. N. Mangels, President,
Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco,
San Francisco 20, California.
Dear Mr. Mangels:
This refers to your letter of February 18, 1959,
concerning the proposed conversion of the elevator equipment
in the Seattle branch building to self-service operation, us
approved by the Seattle and San Francisco directors.
It is noted from your letter that the recommended
change should result in improved . service and an estimated
savings of approximately $9,000 in operating expenses per
year.
The Board will interpose no objection to the
expenditure of approximately $19,700 for this improvement,
as outlined in your letter.




Very truly yours,
(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE

Item ro. 5

FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

3/4/59

WASHINGTON 25. D. C.
ADORESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

March

h, 1959

Mr. Alfred Hayes, President,
Federal Reserve Bank of new Yol.k,
New York 45, I:ow York.
Dear Mr. Hayes:
In a letter dated January 26, 1959; a copy of which was
sent to the Board by your Bank on January 29, The Chase Manhattan
Bank urged early upward revision in the maximum rates of intere
st
payable by member banks of the Federal Reserve System on time and
savings deposits. In your letter of February 18, you analyze
these proposals and suggest an alternative set of rules which
would prescribe a maximum rate of 4 per cent on time deposi
ts
maturing in 90 days or more and of 1 per cent on time deposits
maturing in 30 to 89 day:;. Your suggestion would continue the
present maximum rate of 3 per cent for savings deposits.
After full consideration of the views expressed in these
letters, the Board has reached the conclusion that no cham-ce
Should be made at the present time in the maximum permissible
rates of interest prescribed in the supplement to Regulation
Q2
Payment cf Interest on Deposits.
The Board will appreciate your informing The Chase
Manhattan Bank of this decision,




Very truly yours,

(Signed) Merritt Sherman
Merritt Sherman,
Secretary.

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GOVERNORS

OF THE

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WASHINGTON 25, D. C.

ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO THE BOARD

March 3, 1959.

CONFIDENTIAL SF.R.)
Mr. N. L. Armistead, Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond,
Richmond 13, Virginia.

Dear Mr. Armistead:
In accordance with the request contained in your
letter of February 25, 1959, as supplemented by your wire of
February 27, the Board approves the appointment of Jack H.
Wyatt as an assistant examiner for the Federal Reserve Bank
of Richmond. Please advise as to the date the appointment
is made effective.
It is noted that Mr. Wyatt is indebted to StatePlanters Bank of Commerce and Trusts, Richmond, Virginia, a
State member bank, in the amount of $166.66, repayable in
monthly instalments of $33.331 and that Mr. Wyatt plans to
liquidate the loan by April 23, 1959. Accordingly, the
Board's approval of the appointment of Mr. Wyatt is given
with the understanding that he will not participate in any
examination of State-Planters Bank of Commerce and Trusts
until his indebtedness has been liquidated.




Very truly yours,

(Signed) Kenneth A. Kenyon
Kenneth A. Kenyon,
Assistant Secretary.

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