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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System was held in Washington on Tuesday, March 22, 1938, at 10:30
a. In,
PRESENT:

Mr. Ransom, Vice Chairman
Mr. Szymczak
Mr. Davis
Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Thurston, Special Assistant to the
Chairman
Mr. Wyatt, General Counsel
Mr. Paulger, Chief of the Division of
Examinations
Mr. Goldenweiser, Director of the Division
of Research and Statistics
Mr. amead, Chief of the Division of Bank
Operations
Mr. Parry, Chief of the Division of Security
Loans
Mr. Dreibelbis, Assistant General Counsel
Mr. Leonard, Assistant Chief of the Division
of Examinations
Mr. Williams, Assistant Counsel

Mr. Ransom stated that the clerk of the Banking and Currency
Committee of the House of Representatives called Mr. Thurston on the
telephone yesterday and advised him that the Committee had decided to
extend an invitation to the members of the Board to testify next week
at the hearings being conducted by the Committee on Bill H.R. 7230,
introduced by Mr. Patman under date of May 25, 1937, providing for
Government ownership of the twelve Federal reserve banks and for other
Purposes.




After a discussion of the matter, it
agreed
that Mr. Ransom should advise
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-2the clerk of the Banking and Currency Canmittee of the House of Representatives by
telephone that Chairman Eccles was out of
the city and was expected to return early
next week and that it would be appreciated
if the appearance of a member of the Board
at the hearings could be deferred until
that time. It was also understood that Mr.
Ransom would advise Chairman Eccles by letter today of this agreement.
At this point Messrs. Thurston, Wyatt, Paulger, Goldenweiser,

amead, Parry, Dreibelbis, Leonard and Williams left the meeting and
consideration was then given to each of the matters hereinafter referred to and the action stated with respect thereto was taken by the
Board:
Letter dated March 19, 1938, to Mr. Schaller, President of the
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, reading as follows:
"This is in response to your letter of February 18,
1938, requesting the Board's approval of the appointment
of Mr. Isador Levin, of Detroit, as Associate Counsel for
the Detroit Branch for the current year.
"Although your letter states that Mr. Levin was appointed 'on the same basis of compensation, namely, a per
diem basis', the Board understands that the title of Associate Counsel is largely honorary, that Mr. Levin is to
receive no retainer, that no fixed per diem has been agreed
upon, and that it is contemplated that, if Mr. Levin is
called upon to render any services, his bill will be submitted for approval by the board of directors of the Federal
Reserve Bank before being paid.
"In these circumstances, it would seem that no action
by the Board of Governors is required at this time and that
the matter should be handled in accordance with the Board's
letters of February 15, 1926 (X-4531) and April 15, 1936
(X-9548), under the terms of which the Federal Reserve Bank
should obtain an agreement from Mr. Levin that any fee in




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"excess of $1,000 will be subject to final review and approval
by the Board of Governors and that, before paying any fee
which, together with other fees already paid during the same
year would exceed 4-4,000, the Bank should submit the same to
and obtain the approval of the Board of Governors."
Approved unanimously.
Memorandum dated March 19, 1938, from Mr. Smead, Chief of the
Division of Bank Operations, submitting a letter dated March 16 from
Mr. McLarin, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta,
Which requested approval by the Board of changes in the personnel classification plan of the New Orleans branch of the Atlanta bank to provide
for the creation of the new positions of "mail Clerk" and "Captain of
the Guard", and for the discontinuance of the position of "Guard-Clerk",
all in the Service Department.

The memorandum stated that the pro-

Posed changes had been reviewed and recommended that they be approved.
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Fleming, President of the Federal Reserve Bank
Of Cleveland, reading as follows:
"Receipt is acknowledged of your letter of March 15,
1938, recommending a modification of the requirement contained in condition of membership numbered 7 which has been
prescribed for The Union Bank of Com:tierce Company, Cleveland,
Ohio, pertaining to the court approval of the plan of reorganization of The Union Trust Company, also of Cleveland,
under which the subject bank is to be organized. This requirement provides that, prior to the bank's admission to
membership, the plan shall have been approved
'by an order of the Court of Common Pleas of
Cuyahoga County of the State of Ohio which has became finally effective and is not subject to review
by the Appellate Courts of that State or to a restraining order under the statutes of that State.'




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"It is understood that, as of March 5, 1938, consents
to the plan had been obtained from depositors representing
90.1 per cent of the deposits of The Union Trust Company
and from stockholders representing 92.7 per cent of its
stock on which assessments have been paid in full, and that
the Court of Common Pleas has approved and entered en order
authorizing the State Superintendent of Banks to consummate the plan. It is understood further that, pursuant to
permission granted by the Ohio statutes, two suits were
filed requesting a restraining order preventing the Superintendent from consummating the plan, but that the court has
denied the relief thus prayed for.
"While it appears that it is possible to appeal this
decision to the Court of Appeals and Supreme Court of Ohio
and to the United States Supreme Court, your counsel, who
concur in your recommendation, have advised that there is
virtually no possibility of the decision being overruled
in any appellate court, end that, if an appeal is taken,
a considerable period of time must elapse before it could
be finally adjudicated. It is noted also that two different counsel for the Special Deputy Superintendent of
Banks have expressed the opinion that these suits are
without merit and have advised him to proceed with the
consummation of the plan which must be accomplished by
April 15, 1938, unless additional time is granted by the
court.
"In the circumstances, the Board will consider the approval given to the plan by the Court of Common Pleas as a
compliance with the requirement contained in that part of
condition of membership numbered 7 quoted above."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Sargent, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
Ban1. of San Francisco, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of March 7, 1938, end
inclosure, presenting the question whether amounts carried
by The Anglo California National Bank of San Francisco in
an account called 'Special Reserve, Contracts Department'
constitute deposits against which reserves are required to
be carried with the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco.
"You state that the national bank examiners have raised




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"the question as to whether the amounts should not be
treated as demand deposits subject to reserves rather than
as 'other liabilities.' You further state that, since the
release of the funds appears conditional, they being held
to indemnify the bank in case of loss in its dealings with
certain borrowers, and since a substantial portion of such
funds reverts to the bank, you are inclined to the opinion
that the items may properly be classified as 'other liabilities.'
"It is understood that the account arises from the
bank's installment financing activities wherein it makes
an arrangement with an automobile dealer or other similar
dealer to discount his contracts with the understanding
that out of the proceeds of each contract a certain amount
will be set aside in a reserve fund and will not be paid
to the dealer until the contract from which it arose is
paid in full; that all such amounts are available to the
bank to cover losses sustained in the collection of any or
all such contracts discounted for the dealer and may be
applied by the bank against any other indebtedness incurred
by the dealer; and that in actual practice half or less
of such amounts is paid to the dealer, as losses generally
consume some portion of the amounts and other portions are
applied against other indebtedness of the dealer. Although
it does not appear from your letter, it is assumed that the
amounts held in the special. reserve account are not segregated but are commingled with the other assets of the bank.
"As you know, in a ruling published at page 572 of
the Federal Reserve Bulletin for May, 1922, the Board laid
down the 'broad rule that all funds received by a bank in
the course of its commercial or fiduciary business must
be treated either as deposits against which reserves must
be carried, or as trust funds subject to the ordinary restrictions and safeguards imposed upon the custody and use
of trust funds'. In that ruling it was made clear that
d
even in the case of trust funds, if they were not segregate
the
with
from the bank's other assets but were mingled
bank's general funds, a deposit liability would be created
against which reserves must be carried. This position was
recently affirmed in the ruling published at page 113 of
the February, 1937, Bulletin and in the ruling published
of
at page 391 of the May, 1937, Bulletin. In the light
basis
the
on
and
rulings
the principles stated in these
it is
of our understanding of the facts as stated above,
carried
amounts
that
the view of the Board of Governors
are dein the special reserve account under consideration
carried
be
to
required
posits against which reserves are




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"with the Federal Reserve bank.
"The fact that amounts carried in the special reserve
account may not be withdrawn by the dealer and probably
will be used by the bank at least in part to cover losses
on the discounted paper or other indebtedness of the dealer
is believed not to be a controlling consideration. In this
connection, your attention is invited to the Board's letter
of February 5, 1938 (S-72), which reaffirmed the position
taken in a ruling published at page 538 of the Bulletin
for September, 1931, to the effect that amounts carried
in accounts opened to secure the payment of personal loans
were deposits for reserve purposes, even though they could
not be withdrawn by the depositor but were to be used solely
for the purpose of paying the amount of the personal loan.
"The question whether amounts carried in a special reserve account are demand deposits or time deposits will,
of course, depend upon whether or not the agreement or arrangement under which the funds are held complies with the
definitions in section 1 of Regulation D. In this connection, your attention is invited to the fact that all deposits which do not comply with the definitions of time
deposits constitute demand deposits.
"As heretofore stated, the Board's ruling in this
case is based upon our understanding of the facts as set
forth above, but if there should be any material variation
between the actual facts and our understanding of them,
the matter may require further consideration."
Approved unanimously.
Letter dated March 21, 1938, to Mr. Sihler, Assistant Vice
President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, reading as follows:
"Reference is made to your letters of February 9 and
March 2, 1938, regarding a question which has arisen under
Regulation T. The question which you present may be restated as follows:
A customer has an account in which the adjusted debit balance exceeds the maximum loan
value of the securities and in which there is
required under Regulation T the deposit of
$2,500 in connection with a transaction on a
preceding day. The account includes a short




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"position of 100 shares of X stock having a
current market value of 45,000. The customer
deposits with the creditor 100 shares of X stock
to be delivered against the short position, end
requests the creditor to permit him to withdraw
on the same day 45,000 in cash. There are no
other transactions in the account on the given
day, and the 42,500 deposit is the only one required in the account because of any transactions
on any previous day. May the creditor permit such
withdrawal?
"It is the view of the Board that in the circumstances
stated, the receipt of 100 shares of X stock in the account
to be delivered against the short position has the effect
of reducing the adjusted debit balance of the account by
45,000 (the market value of the securities short) plus
$2,500 (the margin required on the short position under
the present supplement to Regulation T),or 47,500, while
leaving unchanged the maximum loan value of the securities
In the account. The creditor may, if he desires, treat
the receipt of securities as consisting of two portions.
One portion may be considered to be a 'covering or other
liquidating' transaction effected in the account for the
purposes of section 3(e), in lieu of the deposit of 42,500
in connection with the transaction on the preceding day;
and the remaining portion may be considered to be a deposit
of securities in connection with a withdrawal. On this
basis, the creditor may permit the withdrawal from the account on the given day of 45,000 in cash."
Approved unanimously.
Letter dated March 19, 1938, to Mr. McCravey, Secretary of the
Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, reading as follows:
"Referring to your letter of March 15, 1938, to Mr.
Morrill, the Board notes without objection that it is
planned to hold the regular April meeting of your board of
directors at Birmingham on April 8 and the regular May meeting at Nashville on May 13 and 14."




Approved unanimously.

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Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

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