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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
Sistern was held in
Washington on Friday, March 17, 1939, at 2:30 p.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Ransom, Vice Chairman
Szymczak
McKee
Draper

Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Clayton, Assistant to the Chairman
The action stated with respect to each of the matters hereinreferred to was taken by the Board:
The minutes of the meeting of the Board of Governors of the
Ileciellal Reserve System held on March 16, 1939, were approved unani1.011si

Telegram to Mr. Gidney, Vice President of the Federal Reserve
of New York, reading as follows:
.
"In accordance with recommendation contained in
31liistin's letter of March 15, Board extends to March
31, 1939 time within which 'The Patchogue Citizens Bank
& Trust Company', Patchogue, New York, may accomplish
Membership in the System, subject, however, to the same
condition prescribed in telegram of December 5, 1938 in
connection with a previous extension."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Sinclair, President of the Federal Reserve Bank
Or phii

adelphia, reading as follows:
"The Board recently received a letter from Mr. Thomas
Gravatt, Assistant Secretary to the Philadelphia Stock
Change,
E
regarding the auestion whether certain 2-1/2
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"per cent Serial Water Revenue Bonds of the Bethlehem
1 ;ater Authority are 'exempted securities' for
TAunicipal !
the purpose of Regulation T. There was enclosed a circular issued by Elkins, Morris & Co. describing- the
bonds.
"This inquiry involves an interpretation of section
3(a)(12) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, which
Provision is of interest to the Securities and Exchange
Commission, and also an interpretation of rules issued
by the Commission under this provision. Accordingly, the
views of the Commission were requested on the question.
"You will note that the attached copy of a letter
from the Commission expresses the opinion that the bonds
are not exempted by the terms of section 3(a)(12) of the
Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and that the information
sUbmitted is not sufficient to show that the bonds are
eXempted under the Commission's Rule X-3Al2-2.
"The Board sees no reason to differ with these views,
and it will be appreciated if you will advise the Philadelphia Stock Exchange accordingly. The Board would, of
course, be glad to forward to the Coimaission, or have the
EXchange transmit directly any farther information which
the Exchange might wish to submit regarding the availability of an exemption under Rule X-3Al2-2."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Honorable Leo T. Crowley, Chairman of the Federal
tle130Sit Insurance Corporation, prepared for the signature of Chairman
and reading as follows:
"The proposal outlined in your letter of March 9,
l'elative to the making of special analyses of operating
ratios of member banks for the year 1938, is viewed favorliblY by the Board and we shall be glad to cooperate with
you in conducting the project along the lines proposed.
.
If the Comptroller of the Currency gives his sanction to
the transmission of the national bank data, we shall untlertake to furnish your Corporation with the individual
uank ratios as soon as they can be obtained from the Federal Reserve banks. The arrangements for securing the
l*etios sent in by the Reserve banks, and for supplying




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"us with the tabulations made from these ratios, should
be made with Mr. Smead, Chief of the Division of Bank
Operations.
"It is assumed that the Board will be furnished the
tabulated material pertainins to member banks as soon
as it becomes available."
Approved unanimously, together with
a letter to the Presidents of all Federal
Reserve banks, reading as follows:
. A special project in the field of bank earnings is
being undertaken jointly by the Federal Reserve System and
the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. It is based
largely on the operating ratios of member banks for 1938,
which are in preparation or have recently been prepared
at the Federal Reserve banks. For this purpose a supply
of tabulation forms like the one attached (FIR. 456) is
belag forwarded to you. It will be appreciated if you
will have one of these forms filled out for each member
bank in your district whose figures were used in your
1938 compilation of average operating ratios, and if you
will return the completed forms to the Board. Instructions concerning the tabulation of the desired data are
contained in the accompanying memorandum.
'Upon receipt of the completed forms by the Board,
the coding items (6-14) will be entered (for sorting ourPoses), and the data shown on the forms will be transferred to punched cards. The cards will then be sorted
and tabulated in order to make available various analyses
°I' Member bank operatinr,
, ratios in addition to the size
of bank and geographic distributions which the Federal
'Reserve banks have prepared or are making."
Letter to Honorable D. W. Bell, Acting Director, Bureau of the
1311cliget,
prepared pursuant to the action taken at the meeting of the
this morning, and reading as follows:
,, "This is in response to your request of March 11,
""39 for the views of the Board of Governors regarding
.tEl' draft of Bill to amend the Federal Home Loan Bank Act,
he Home Owners' Loan Act of 1933, Title IV of the National




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"Housing Act, and for other purposes, which you advised
the Chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board intends
to submit to the Senate and House Banking and Currency
Committees.
"You will recall that somewhat similar proposals
were made last year in the Bill S. 3874, concerning which
the Board, at the request of the Banking and Currency Committee of the Senate, submitted its views.
"As pointed out in connection with that Bill, the
Members of the Board are in sympathy with the objectives
of the Home Loan Banks as reservoirs of funds for the accommodation of their member institutions and with the objectives of their member institutions as local mutual
thrift and home-financing associations. However, many
Of the provisions which were regarded by the Board at
that time as being open to objection are contained in
the new proposal. Like the previous proposal, it would
tot be confined to technical and clarifying amendments,
but would break away from the concept of Federal Savings
and Loan Associations and other member institutions of
Federal Home Loan Banks as local mutual thrift institutions. One group of provisions would place the lending
Powers of the Hams Loan Bank System behind an enlargement
of the lending powers of the Federal and State-chartered
savings and loan associations to include securities and
r?al estate mortgages of any sort. A second group of provisions would place the insurance of liabilities of these
institutions on a preferential basis as compared with
insurance of deposits of banks. In these respects, the
ProPosed Bill would tend to establish a separate and camPlete banking system which would compete on favored terms
with savings banks and the savings departments of camZercial banks.
"Regarding the first group of provisions, section 1
<If the Bill would support any past or future enlargement
(If the lending powers of State-chartered member associai°11e, as well as Federal Savings and Loan Associations,
017 liberalizing the class of collateral securities upon
Which Federal Home Loan Banks are authorized to make advances to their member institutions. At present, mortgages eligible for advances are restricted to 'home
tfl°rtgages'. This section would completely eliminate such
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any first mortgage. Section 2 would further extend
the list of eligible collateral to a materially different
Class of securities, which would include not only Government-guaranteed obligations and obligations of the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation and of the
Federal Home Loan Banks, but also whatever obligations a
member association might lawfully have available.
"Although the restrictions on the types of mortgages
in which Federal Savings and Loan Associations are authorized to invest would be somewhat liberalized by section
8, the additions would include only residential mortgages.
However, the restrictions of that section would apply only
to Federally chartered institutions: the lending powers
Of State-chartered institutions are governed by State
law. The amendments proposed in section I would therefore
encourage the latter to expand their activities to other
fields instead of continuing as cooperative thrift and
home-financing institutions which it was the purpose of
the Home Loan Bank System to foster. Therefore, it would
be desirable, in section 1, to place upon advances by
Federal Home Loan Banks restrictions similar in terms
to those which would be placed in section 8 upon the
types of mortgages in which Federally chartered associations are authorized to invest.
"Section 8 would allow Federal Savings and Loan Associations to invest their assets in any securities that
ere legal investments for fiduciary and trust funds and
are approved by regulations of the Federal Home Loan Bank
Board. This is justified as permitting associations to
emPloY idle funds 'when satisfactory home mortgage loans
are not available'; but there appears to be no reason
for Permitting Federal Home Loan Banks to make advances
uPon such securities, as is done in section 2, if such
securities are to be merely temporary investments and
the associations are to continue as home-financing institutions.
"The transformation of the character of Federal Savi/Igs and Loan Associations from mutual thrift and homefinancing associations into a separate banking system would
be given additional impetus by a change in the name of the
InsUrance Corporation proposed in section 11. That section
would abandon the name 'Federal Savings and Loan Insurance
C°rPoration' and substitute 'Federal Savings Insurance
C°rPoration'. This proposed name would create confusion




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in the minds of the public, whereas the title now used
Clearly corresponds to the accepted designation of the
mutual institutions for home financing whose shares the
Corporation insures.
"The second group of objections centers around the
Provisions of the Bill which would permit Federal Savings
and Loan Associations and State-chartered associations insured by the Home Loan Bank System to compete on unfair terms
With other established institutions for the depositor's
dollar to the detriment of the latter. The insurance of
shares' of these institutions on the same basis as insurance of bank deposits, in spite of the fact that there is
no limitation on the rate of return which may be paid on
such shares, would constitute the means by which this advantage in competition would be given.
"Section 14 would foster unfair competition by granting unwarranted insurance benefits. It would reduce the
Premium for insurance for Federal and other insured associations from the present rate of 1/8 of 1 per cent to
1/12 of 1 per cent. While it is true that 1/12 of 1 per
cent is the current rate of the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation, the risks of the two types of insurance are
not comparable, for three reasons:
(1) The assets of building and loan associations are normally on a lona-term basis and are not
as liquid as those of banks. As a corollary, the
shares of Federal associations and building and
loan associations are not intended to be, and are
not, as liquid as bank deposits.
(2) The two rates are not comparable because
the uninsured portion of deposits in insured banks,
Upon which banks pay premiums, is much greater than
the uninsured liability in building and loan associations. This means that the average effective
rate of assessment upon insured deposits in banks
is much higher than 1/12 of 1 per cent.
(3) The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation insures only the deposits of banks. The net
worth of banks, represented by the stockholders'
Interest in capital and surplus funds, constitutes
a cushion for the protection of the depositors and
the Corporation. The Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Association insures withdrawable or rePurchasable shares, investment certificates, or




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"deposits, with the result generally that a fewer
Percentage of losses upon the part of one of its insured institutions will expose it to loss than is
so in the case of the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation. The risk, therefore, is greater and
the premium should be higher if it is to be kept
on a self-sustaining basis.
"Section 16 of the Bill would go still further in
Placing the insurance of building and loan association
Shares upon the same basis as savings deposits. It provides that in the event of default by a Federal or other
insured association, the Insurance Corporation would have
the option of making payment 'in full in cash'. Moreover,
the holder of an 'insured account' would in any case have
the option of receiving 'at least' 10 per cent thereof in
cash, and the balance in interest-hearing debentures rather
theji in noninterest-bearing obligations as under the existing law.
"It is noteworthy that this theory of similarity between the shares of Federal and other buildinr, and loan
association, and savings deposits, seems to be an underlying theory of these sections of the Bill. If this be true,
and if the distinction in liquidity between the two is to
be disregarded and eliminated, then certainly the Bill
att empts to create a new system of banks.
"At the present time, building and loan associations
are not regarded as being as liquid as banks. Conclusive
evidence of this is given by the rates of return permitted
to be paid, and actually paid, by building and loan associations upon their shares, which are much higher than the
rates of interest permitted to be paid upon savings dePosits. If building and loan associations are to be given
On
artificial liquidity, this discrepancy in the rate of
return will constitute another serious competitive disedvantage for national and State banks, and will result
either in the growth of unsound banking practices, or in
Illortality among the institutions competing with the favored
/ederal and other savings and loan associations.
"For all of the foregoing reasons, the Board of Governors is of the opinion that the enactment of the Bill
Would not be in the public interest."




Approved unanimously.

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Letter to the Presidents of all Federal Reserve banks, reading
as

follows:
"Several of the Federal Reserve banks have recently
suggested that the Secret Service Division furnish them
with the necessary number of copies of each circular describing counterfeit notes in order to facilitate the
distribution thereof
and to eliminate a duplication of
expense. Accordingly, this matter was taken up with the
Secret Service Division and the Division was also asked
whether it would furnish the Reserve banks with a sufficient number of franked envelopes to make distribution
of the counterfeit notices.
'The Secret Service Division stated informally that
at the present time the limited appropriations available
to the Division make it impossible to furnish the Reserve
banks with franked envelopes but that it would be able to
fUrnish a sufficient number of copies of the circulars
for distribution.
"The Secret Service Division asked whether an arrangement could be worked out, whereby the circulars could be
mailed directly from Washington under the Board's frank
rather than through the Reserve banks, particularly since
would expedite to some extent the distribution of the
circulars. Such a procedure would appear practicable
lid accoraingly arrangements have been made
under which
the Board will address envelopes
to all member and nonmember banks in the United States and deliver them to
the Treasury Department which will insert and mail the
counterfeit notices. The Board's mailing list comprises
all national banks in the continental United States and
811 State commercial banks, trust companies, mutual and
stock savings banks and such private and industrial banks
"are included in abstracts issued by State banking dePartmerts. One copy of each notice will also be sent
clirect to each Federal Reserve bank and branch.
"The replies to the Board's telegram of December 14,
indicate that the distribution of counterfeit notices
wi some of the Reserve banks is not limited to member and
11°1/member banks, also, tbat in certain eases bulk deliveries
!Ile made to banks and others. Under the procedure as set
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each member and nonmember bank. It will be appreciated,
therefore, if you will advise the Board the additional
number of copies that should be sent to your bank for distribution to others than banks and to banks which have
requested more than one copy."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. McRae, Chief Examiner, Federal Reserve Bank of
stOltl, reading as follows:
. "Reference is made to your letter of March 8, 1939
regarding the time within which applications for extensions
of time pursuant to section 3(f) or 4(c) of Regulation T
may be acted upon by a business conduct committee of an
exchange.
"The Board's views with respect to the question have
been incorporated in the attached statement for the press
on the subject of 'Extension of Time by Committee of Exchange after Original Period has Expired'. You will note,
however, that this is not to be released for publication
until the time specified in the statement."
The statement enclosed with the letter read as follows:
"Section 3(b) of Regulation T provides that when a
customer effects certain transactions in a general account
the creditor must obtain the deposit of certain cash or
securities in the account, end must obtain such cash or
securities before the expiration of three full business
thlYs following the date of the transaction. Section 3(e)
Provides that if such cash or securities are not obtained
within the specified period, certain liquidations must be
effected in the account during the period. Section 3(f)
Provides, however, as follows:
'Extensions of time. - In exceptional cases,
the three-day period specified in section 3(b)
may, on application of the creditor, be extended
for one or more limited periods commensurate with
the circumstances by any regularly constituted
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"'its members, of which exchange the creditor is
a member or through which his transactions are effected, provided such committee is satisfied that
the creditor is acting in good faith in making the
application and that the circumstances are in fact
exceptional and warrant such action.'
"Section 4(c) relating to the special cash account
Provides that, in general, if a customer does not make
full cash payment for a security purchased by him in the
account within seven days after the date on which the security was purchased, the creditor shall promptly cancel
or otherwise liquidate the transaction. Another paragraph
Of the section specifies different periods of time for
certain special types of transactions, and the section
then provides:
'If any regularly constituted committee of
a national securities exchange having jurisdiction
over the business conduct of its members, of which
exchange the creditor is a member or through which
his transactions are effected, is satisfied that
the creditor is acting in good faith in making the
application, that the application relates to a
bona fide cash transaction, and that exceptional
circumstances warrant such action, such committee, on application of the creditor, may (A) extend any period specified in the two preceding
Paragraphs for one or more limited periods commensurate with the circumstances, or (B) in the
case of the purchase of a registered or exempted
security which has been effected by the customer
in the account, authorize the transfer of the
transaction to a general account or special omnibus account and the completion of the transaction
Pursuant to the provisions of this regulation relating to such accounts.'
"The Board has recently been asked whether an applition for such an extension of time pursuant to section
(0, or for an extension of time or transfer of a transpursuant to section 4(c), may be approved by a
48iness conduct committee after the expiration of the
Period originally applicable to the transaction.
"It is the view of the Board that such an application
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'Thus an application for an extension of the threeday period applicable to a transaction in the general account could not be approved by the committee after midnight
of the third full business day following the date of the
transaction. Similarly, in the case of a transaction in
the special cash account to which the standard seven-day
Period is applicable, an application for an extension of
time or for a transfer of the transaction should be passed
upon by the committee not later than midnight of the
seventh calendar day after the date of the transaction.
In case an extension of time has been granted for a particular transaction, any application for a further extension or for a transfer of the transaction should be
received and acted upon before the expiration of the
Prior extension.
. "In order to facilitate its consideration of the epPlications, each business conduct committee may, of course,
further limit the period following a transaction within
Which it will receive any such application."
Approved unanimously, together with
letter to the Presidents of all Federal
Reserve banks, reading as follows:
"There is attached a copy of a ruling which will be
Published in the Federal Reserve Bulletin regarding 'EXtension of Time by Committee of Exchange after Original
Period Has Expired'..
"It will be noted that the attached ruling is in
the form of a statement for the press which, however,
is not to be released until the time specified on the
s
tatenent."
There was then presented, with the recommendation of the OfGeneral Counsel that it be published in the April issue of
the 1,
ederal Reserve Bulletin in the form submitted, a statement with
44sct to the continuation of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation
Elta
related agencies.




Approved unanimously.

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Thereupon the

eti

adjourned.

Aesi stant Secretary.

111.911coreit:




Mailman.