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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
'418 held •In lashington on Wednesday, March 17, 1937, at 11:30 a. m.
PRESENT:

Mr. Ransom, Vice Chairman
Mr. Broderick
Mr. Szymczak
Mr. Morrill, Secretary
Mr. Bethea, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Carpenter, Assistant Secretary

Consideration was given to each of
the matters hereinafter referred

to

4nd the
action stated with respect thereto was taken by the Board:
Telegrams to Mr. Paddock, First
Vice President of the Federal Re%Ire Bank of
Boston, Mr. Austin, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of
l'41111clelPhia, and Mr. Stewart, Secretary of the Federal Reserve Bank of St.
tollis, stating
that the Board approves the establishment without change by
the
respective banks today of the rates of discount and purchase in their
e4Bting

schedules.
Approved unanimously.

Memorandum dated March 6, 1937, from Mr. Van Fossen, Assistant
of'the Division of Bank Operations, submitting a summary of the
inforcontained in statements received from the Federal reserve banks in
e°41Riance with the Board's request of
November 23, 1936, giving the name
411t1
41411141
salarY of each employee as of January 1, 1937, together with the
44ry of
each such employee on January 1, 1936, or the annual salary if
114%
during
1936. The memorandum stated that the salary lists as submittic11531'
each Federal reserve bank had been examined and such
differences as
1141d
bee
11 found between these lists and the personnel classification plans




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ils with the Board had been brought to the attention of the Federal
teeerve banks. The memorandum recommended approval of letters attached
the
advising the Federal reserve banks that the salaries of employees
januarY 1, 1937, as shown in the salary lists furnished the Board, had
been
noted with approval, and that the letters to the Federal Reserve Banks
°t at. -ouis,
T.
Kansas City and Dallas also authorize the payment of salaries
'
eas of those provided in the recently approved personnel classificatiO4
PlanS to employees at the banks whose salaries have heretofore been

ezp,
'ass of such maximums as shown below:
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis

Position

Maximum for posiAnnual tion in personnel
salary classification plan

St. Louis
j.
Bruckner
.44,earior
Kourek
boerner
B.
Johnston
s
At:
11A*41a
Goddard
W.
gtAth Sassier
B
rauroth
4441
'
Burlhart
Silb
erman
17.
riengstorff
tsw Sraith
Lute
(1-4•24beth Mudd
es°1`ge
J. Bode, Jr•
buesing

1'.
lioke
(1%
B. liarvey
Bagot

General Bookkeeper
Stenographer "A" (Accounting Dept.)
Junior Clerk "A" (Accounting Dept.)
Night Janitor Foreman
Pastry Cook
Head of Collateral & Custody Dept.
Secretary
Secretary
File Clerk "A"
Head of Money Department
Paying and Receiving Teller
Doctor
Welfare Worker
Head of Purchasing Dept.
Purchasing Clerk
General Clerk (Collateral and
Collection - R. F. C. Dept.)
Head of Stock, Duplicating &
Telephone Dept.
Head of Transfer - Telegraph Dept.
Teletype Operator




$2,700
1,560
1,560
1,860
1,440
3,120
2,040
2,040
1,560
4,260
3,000
3,300
2,200
3,300
1,860

$2,400
1,500
1,500
1,800
1,200
3,000
1,800
1,800
1,500
5,600
2,700
2,700
1,800
2,700
1,800

2,160

2,100

2,500
3,060
1,860

2,400
3,000
1,500

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-3Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (Contld)

Annual
salary

Maximum for
position in personnel
classification plan

$2,500

$1,800

Head of Credit-Discount
$3,075
Dept.
Sorting & Shipping Teller 2,400
3,075
General Utility Clerk
1,320
Telephone Operator

$3,000
2,100
2,700
1,200

Position
Louisville
unimers

Recorder (Collateral &
Custody Dept.)
Memphis

a• N. Perkins
all R.
'

Freeman
X.
Strickland
trticle
Bartholomew

Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas Ci_ty,

441
11,
ikbe'4rly
Harriso
n

Position
Supervisor of Supplies
Stenographer - A

Annual
salary
$2,496
1,896

Maximum for
position in personnel
classification plan
$2,100
1,800

Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas

Position

C

41„..',
. I.
L:4

,A
Nailders
J
4-tt n

t()

II

Assistant Examiner
Junior Clerk - A
Teletype Operator

Annual
salaxE

Maximum for
position in personnel
classification plan

$3,000
1,800
1,800

$2,400
1,680
1,500

In connection with the above matter, consideration was also given

enl°randum dated March 6, 1937, from Mr. Smead, Chief of the Division
1144k
u
,telltio Psrations, stating that in reviewing the revised personnel classi4 Plans recently submitted to the Board it appeared that a number of

Ped
el'al reserve banks were placing maximum salaries on certain positions




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-4ruer to cover salaries actually being paid; that it had been suggested
t°the)
,
-anke that the maximum salary fixed for a given position should
ePraselat the maximum salary which the position was considered to be worth
41d,
anY employees were receiving salaries in excess of such maximums
') for certain reasons, they wished to continue paying, the permission
the
Board should be obtained therefor; and that in a number of cases the
ke,rd
had already authorized the banks to pay to specified employees a salaceBs of the maximum provided in the personnel classification plans.
ulemorandum also stated that, in the case of the employees covered by the
414estB from
the St. Louis, Kansas City and Dallas banks, it appeared that
t4eba„
--s had given careful consideration to the salaries paid the employees
glies tlon and felt that under all the circumstances it would be inadvis4ble

t° reduce them at the present time for the purpose of bringing them
kit414 the
maximums now provided in the personnel classification plans, and
Nec>kaencled in the circumstances that the requests of these banks be approved.
The recommendations were
approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Sargent, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank
S44
Francisco, reading as follows:
of
"This refers to your letter of February 10, 1937, advising
lie the change on February 4, 1937, of the address of the West
ej
niceleY office, Berkeley, California, of the American Trust
Peg4nY, San Francisco, from 1095 University Avenue to 1990 San
/40,r Avenue. It is noted that this change merely necessitated
o
lg the banking quarters to the rear portion of the building
'
tti llPied by such office. It is noted also that, in your opinion,
c4 change of address did not constitute the establishment of




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e new branch requiring the Board's approval under the provisicIns of section 9 of the Federal Reserve Act. The Board con,
curs in your conclusion."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Hamilton, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of

44'648 City,
reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of February 9, 1937, stating
that in connection with a recent examination of Merchants Bank
Kansas City, Kansas City, Missouri, a question had arisen
concerning the propriety of the bank's selling to itself as
ruetee certain mortgage loans insured under Title II of the
aational Housing Act and inquiring whether such transactions
. 11ould be criticized. This matter was again mentioned in your
tetter of February 17, 1937, and the report of examination of
..11e bank as of December 28, 1936, inclosed therewith.
"It appears that in connection with the two transactions
in question the bank executed declarations of trust in the so'short form' prepared by the Federal Housing Administrawl°n. Such form and a so-called 'long form' of trust agreement
s prepared in 1935 and distributed for the guidance of trust
e!
letitutions. Subsequently it was suggested that certain provielcus of such forms and the accompanying memoranda appeared to
santemplate practices which might not be in accordance with
alTInd principles of trust administration and might result in
13 uses. The matter was discussed by representatives of the
the Comptroller of the Currency, and the Federal Housing
'
`e- ulinistration and, in order to clarify the situation, the FedHousing Administration advised those to whom the forms had
1
1en
sent that such forms should be disregarded and, in lieu
reereof, it suggested certain clauses which, in view of certain
i,
'
c llirements applicable to insured mortgage loans, should be
a'cluded in trust agreements under which insured mortgage loans
? to be held. It was pointed out that it is essential that
j41);trust instruments be prepared in accordance with sound trust
in"tices and that this principle is in no wise affected by the
/4c4.u31on of insured mortgage loans in the corpus of the trust.
te this connection, your attention is called to the Board's letof December 18, 1935, (X-9396), and its inclosures.
11 "The transactions to which you refer must be judged in the
be t of the same principles of trust administration which would
4PPlic8ble if assets other than insured, mortgage loans were
"v°1ved. It is needless to point out the evils and dangers

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-6"inherent in self-dealing by trustees. However, in some instances, a trustee may be required by the terms of the trust
to invest trust funds in assets purchased from itself and
in
the light of such a requirement or other facts and circumstances,
Particular transactions may not be improper in the absence of
aPPlicable statutes or regulations prohibiting such transactions,
although self-dealing as a general practice is subject to severe
criticism. In the absence of complete information as to what
took place prior to the execution of the declarations of trust
14 the two cases to which you refer, it is impossible to express
!definite opinion concerning the question whether the transac4ions were improper. However, it should be noted that since
!AY transaction involving self-dealing by a trustee is subject
(11 question and a trustee should not enter into such a transaction unless it is fully prepared to defend its action, it would
aPpear desirable that the propriety of such action be clearly
t
ahown by the terms of the instrument evidencing or creating the
,ruBt. If, after consideration of the particular transactions
the light of the foregoing discussion, you or your examiner
flould have any question, the Board, of course, will be glad to
advise you.
"You also inquire generally whether transactions similar
to those to which you refer would be in violation of the provi!
jells cf section 11(a) of Regulation F if they were entered into
national banks. However, the Board prefers, as a matter of
c° icY, not to undertake to pass upon questibns of a hypotheti!
14. nature, where it does not have before it the specific facts
-lid circumstances of actual cases which must be acted upon."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. E. W. North, Assistant Cashier, The Central National
krap n
'Jolumbus, Nebraska, reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of March 10, 1967, regarding a
qtie
stion arising under the provisions of Regulation Q. It is
aerstood that in the case presented, one of your customers,
has a number of unmatured time certificates of deposit each
84ed on different dates and maturing one year frOm date of is;
desires to have them all combined into one certificate. You
e:k Whether you would violate Regulation c if you computed interon each certificate for the time it had run, paid the accrued
th
'
erest in cash, and issued to the depositor one certificate for
!
ti
.combined amount of the original certificates, said new cerleate to run for a period of one year from date of issue. It
also understood that the accrued interest on the certificates

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-7"has not been added to the deposits so as to become a part of
the principal thereof.
"Ivith the understandings stated above, the payment of
accrued interest under the circumstances stated in your letter
would not violate Regulation Q or section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act, provided the rate of interest paid does not exceed
the applicable maximum rate stated in the Supplement to Regulation Q.
"If you should have any further questions regarding this
matter or any similar matter, it is suggested that you communicate with the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Gibbs Lyons, Deputy Comptroller of the Currency,
reesi 4

as follows:
"This refers to your letter of iarch 4, 19'671 regarding the
Taestion whether the payment by member banks of assessments under
!'he provisions of Senate Bill No. 1 of the Indiana Legislature
w?uld constitute a payment of interest on demand deposits in
1ra-elation of section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act and the Board's
Regulation Q.
cle
"Some time ago the Board reviewed a proposed bill for a new
,
1 11)0El-tory act for presentation to the Eightieth General AssemZY of the State of Indiana and advised one of the officers of
Ce State that, in the Board's opinion, if the proposed bill should
,
!enacted into law, the payment by member bank depositories of
l assessments provided for in the bill would not constitute the
"e
0
/1;
Yraellt of interest on deposits within the meaning of section 19
the Federal Reserve Act and Regulation Q.
"Although Senate Bill No. 1 is somewhat different from the
°Posed bill which was submitted to the Board, it appears that
a2 Provisions of the bill relating to the insurance of deposits
substantially similar to those contained in the proposed bill
p'_Ileh the Board reviewed. Accordingly, it is our view that, if
;rate Bill No. 1 should be enacted into law in the same form
ID° that containd in your letter, the payment by member bank deco
!
It°ries of the assessments provided for in the bill would not
of"stitute a payment of interest on deposits within the meaning
wi,section 19 of the Federal Reserve Act and Regulation Q. You
the understand, of course, that changes in certain portions of
as Proposed bill might have the effect of converting these
or essments into interest payments which would be in violation
the law.
"In accordance with your request the copy of Senate Bill

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-8"No. 1 which was inclosed with your letter is returned herewith."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Dillistin, Assistant Vice President of the Federal
Itefieww
*ve

bank of New York, reading as follows:

"This refers to your letter of January 11, 1957, containadditional information with regard to the question whether
indebtedness of assistant examiner Charles A. Robinson to
wle First National Bank, Media, Pennsylvania, is in violation
°f section 22(a) of the Federal Reserve Act.
"Since it appears that Mr. Robinson has never examined the
1,1ational bank in question and that he has no authority under the
law to examine a national bank outside of the second Federal Re°
,,ervs District, the Board has reached the conclusion that the
Zrahsaction in question does not constitute a violation of sec2(a)e.
either on the part of thr. Robinson or the national
nalak. Accordingly, the Board is not reporting the matter to the
DePa
of Justice and it will not be necessary for you to
44ka a report to the local United States Attorney."
ig

Approved unanimously.

or Chi

Lett3r to Mr. Young, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank

cago, reading as follows:
i

"This refers to your letter of December 24, 1936, containaddonal information with regard to the question whether
Br indebtedness of examiner E. M. Joseph to the First National
ak, DanvillP, Illinois, is in violation of section 22(a) of
rr Federal Reserve Act. It is understood that Mr. Joseph bored 3.32.25 from the national bank on September 250 1935. It
41s0 understood that Mr. Joseph has never examined the bank
m
question.
ept "Tha second paragraph of section 22(a) relating to the acof loans by examiners, prohibits any examiner from actZ:ing a loan from a bank examined by him, and since it appears
is :-' Mr. Joseph has never examined the national bank to which he
aicIladebted, there would seem to be no reasonable basis for contool.ering that he has violated the law. Accordingly, the Board is
be
'
rePorting the matter to the Attorney General and it will not
Ati.riecessary for you to make a report to the local United States
"°rney.
Act "The first paragraph of section 22(a) of the Federal Reserve
'as amended by the Banking Act of 1935, approved August 23,

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"1935, prohibits any member bank from making any loan to any
examiner or assistant examiner who examines or has authority
to examine such bank'. Under the provisions of section 21 of
the Federal Reserve Act, it is provided that a Federal Reserve
bank may, with the approval of the Federal Reserve Agent or
the Board of Governors, provide for special examinations of
national banks within its district and a question of law arises
as to whether this provision grants authority to an examiner
for a Federal Reserve bank to examine national banks. Although
this question may be doubtful, it has been the Board's practice
n?t to undertake to Jlake a determination of doubtful legal questlons in cases of this kind. It is also the Board's practice
not to refer to the Attorney General possible violations of the
criminal statutes by national banks, but to submit the facts
?I' such possible violations to the Comptroller of the Currency
la order that he may report them to the Attorney General or take
!uch other action as he may deem advisable. In the circumstances,
ale Board is referring to the Comptroller f the Currency the
faC5 of this case."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. Hill, Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank of
1144ds1Phia l reading as follows:
"This refers to your letter of December 19, 1936, containing
additional information with regard to the question whether
611s indebtedness of assistant examiners George C. Robinson and
op W. Snyder to national banks in your district is in violation
tt section 22(a) of the Federal Reserve Act. It is understood
Mr. Robinson borrowed k3500 from the Tradesmens National
ak and Trust Company, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in its capacias trustee for Harry Morris, under the will of Samuel Morris,
,
ecsased, on November 22, 1965, and that Mr. Snyder became into the First National Bank, Sunbury, Pennsylvania, in
by
dei3.4
virtue of his signing a collateral note to secure an into utedness formerly incurred by members of his family. It is
e's0 understood that the assistant examiners involved have never
amined the national banks to which they are indebted.
"The second paragraph of section 22(a), relating to the acce
of loans by examiners, prohibits any examiner or assistant
, examiner from accepting a loan or gratuity from a bank ex'
4.tr : 111111sd
by him, and since it appears that the assistant examiners
ir
olved have never examined the banks to which they are indebted,
vre would seem to be no reasonable basis for considering that

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-10"Such assistant examiners have violated the law. Accordingly,
the Board is not reporting the matter to the Attorney General
and it will not be necessary for you to make a report to
the
local United States Attorney.
"The first paragraph of section 22(a) of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended by the Banking
Act of 1935, approved
4ngust 23, 1935, prohibits any member bank from making any loan
O any
'assistant examiner who examines or has authority to exsuch bank'. Prior to that time and at the time the indebtedness of Mr. Snyder was incurred, the
first paragraph of
section 22(a) prohibited any member bank from making any loan
t4:? any bank examiner'. Under the provisions of section 21 of
Federal Reserve Act, it is provided that a Federal Reserve
rnk may, with the approval of the Federal Reserve Agent or the
srd of Governors, provide for special examinations of nationa'c)
41 banks within its district and a question of law arises as to
whether this provision grants authority to an examiner or assistant examiner for a
Federal Reserve bank to examine national banks.
Although this question may be doubtful, it has been the Board's
11?ractice not to undertake to make a determination of doubtful
:gal questions in cases of this kind. It is also the Board's
actice not to refer to the Attorney General possible viola4r4s of the criminal statutes by national banks, but to submit
re facts of such possible violations to the Comptroller of the
en'ancY in order that he may report them to the Attorney Genor take such other action as he may deem advisable. In the
cumstances, the Board is referring to the Comptroller of the
IlrrencY the facts of the cases above mentioned.
of . "In reviewing the statement of personal indebtedness of
0 leers and employees of your bank as of July 1, 1956, submitted
crl Form B-208, it appears that the Fidelity-Philadelphia Trust
a°111PanY, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, a State member bank, and
,13.s1stant examiner G. W. Shadle have become involved in an ap;'rent violation of the provisions of section 22(a) of the FedReserve Act by virtue of a loan made by the Fidelity-Philatb'Yhie Trust Company and Margaret J. Freeman, trustees under
1"e Will of Frank A. Freeman, deceased, to Mr. Shadle on October
1?25. While it is noted that Mr. Shadle became indebted to
doatoenk in its capacity as fiduciary and, therefore, it may be
icill tful whether a violation of the provisions of section 22(a)
or -Ldvolved, nevertheless, it is felt that this is a question
J4,17,w which should have the consideration of the Department of
40:'1oe and the United States Attorney, and that the Board should
kri.
'
undertake to make a determination of this question. As you
this is in accordance with the usual policy of the Board
cases of this kind. Accordingly, it is requested that you

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report the matter to the local United States Attorney and
forward three copies of such report to the Board for transmission to the Attorney General."
Approved unanimously.
Letter to Mr. J. F. T. O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency,
l'eactillg as follows:
"It has come to the attention of the Board that Messrs.
Jeorge C. Robinson and C. W. Snyder, assistant examiners for
the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, have become indebted
....ts0 the Tradesmens National Bank and Trust Company, Philadelphia,
rennsylvania, and the First National Bank, Sunbury, Pennsylvania,
lesP.ectively; and that Mr. E. M. Joseph, an examiner for the
rederal Reserve Bank of Chicago, has become indebted to the
First National Bank, Danville, Illinois. The question arises
48 to whether these transactions involve a violation of section
22(a) of the Federal Reserve Act. The facts in each of these
cases are inclosed herewith.
"As you know, the first paragraph of section 22(a) of the
Federal
Reserve Act, as amended by the Banking Act of 1935, prohibits any member bank from making any loan to any 'examiner or
ssistant examiner who examines or has authority to examine such
'
alnk' and the second paragraph of such section prohibits an exiner or assistant examiner from accepting a loan from a bank
examined by him'. Since it appears that in each of the cases
!sferred to above the examiner and assistant examiners in queslon have never examined the national banks to which they are
debted, the Board has reached the conclusion that in so far
".6 such examiners are concerned there is no reasonable basis
j
4 hr Considering that they have violated the law. Accordingly,
6 Board is not reporting the matter to the Department of Justice

t

"However, since there is involved a possible violation of
law by the national banks, the Board, in accordance with
usual practice where national banks are involved, is not
ferring these cases to the Attorney General, but is submitting
,'s facts in each of them herewith for your consideration as
whether they should be reported to the Attorney General or
°r such other attention as you may deem advisable."
•the

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Approved unanimously.
bul

Letter to Mr. McKinney, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of
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. "This refers to your letter of January 9, 1957, contalning additional information regarding the question as to
Whether the indebtedness of Mr. W. J. Evans, Vice President
d Chief Examiner, to the United Savings Bank, Detroit,
kchigan, is in violation of section 22(a) of the Federal Reserve Act.
"Since it appears that at the time the loan in question
was made Mr. Evans was not an examiner for a Federal Reserve
.lank, the Board has reached the conclusion that the transacdon does not involve a violation of such section either on
the Part of Mr.
Evans or the bank. Accordingly, the Board is
Ilot reporting the matter to the Attorney General and it will
llot be
necessary for you to make a report to the local United
6tates Attorney."




Approved unanimously.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.