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A meeting of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
SYstem with the Federal Advisory Council was held in the offices
of the Board of Governors in Vashington on Tuesday, March 11, 1947,
at 10:30
a.m.
PRESENT:

Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.

Eccles, Chairman
Draper
Evans
Vardaman
Clayton
Mr. Carpenter, Secretary

Messrs. Spencer, Burgess, Milliams, McCoy,
Fleming, J. T. Brown, E. E. Brown,
Penick, Atwood, Kemper, and Vinton,
rembers of the Federal !dvisory Council
from the First, Second, Third, Fourth,
Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, 71„-;hth, Ninth,
Tenth, and Eleventh Federal Reserve
Districts, respectively.
Mr. Wallace, Chairman of the Security—Trust
National Bank of Los Angeles, who attended
the meeting in place of Mr. Odlin from the
Twelfth Federal Reserve District.
Mr. Prochnow, Acting Secretary of the
Federal Advisory Council
At a separate meeting of the Federal Advisory Council in
14ashington on March 9, 1947, new officers for the ensuing year were
elected as
follows:

E. E. Brown, President; Charles E. Spencer, Jr.,

Vice President; Walter Lichtenstein, Secretary; Herbert V. Prochnow,
Petik, Secretary; and Messrs. Brown, Spencer, Burgess, Williams,
) and Fleming, members of the executive committee.
Me%
f't its separate Pleeting the Council took action with respect
to the various matters on its agenda end yesterdey presented to the




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B°8-rd a memorandum of conclusions which had been reached and which
were to be discussed with the Board in accordance with the procedure
agreed upon at the previous meeting of the Council and the Board.
The discussions at this joint meeting with respect to each of the
topics referred to in the memorandum were substantially as follows:

1.

Classification of banks in preventive strike
legislation.

Should the Council take a stand in having banks classified as essential to the public good in any preventive
strike legislation which might be considered by Congress?
After a careful discussion of various aspects of this
question, the Council recommends that it be dropped from
the agenda.
President Brown stated that, while it was understood that consideration was being riven by Congress to legislation of this kind and
that the matter of action to be taken to have banks included in such
legislation was being studied by the American Bankers Association and
Other bankers' associations, the Council felt that no suggestion in
thet direction should be made by the Council or the Board of Governors.
2. Industrial loan bill, S. 408.
In connection with the proposed bill S. 408, it is
suggested that consideration be given to the deletion
of the follo,4-ing from the proposed bill: Section II,
lines 14 and 15 and down to and including word "prescribe"
in line 161 and that line 14 start with the words "Any
Federal Reserve Bank may guarantee".
The Council considered this item jointly with item 7
below.. The majority of the Council favors bill S. 408
subject to its being changed in two respects: (1) it
Should be restricted in its application not to "any
financing institution" but to "chartered banking institutions", and (2) guarantees and commitments should be
made only after a showing that the loans could not be
handled through normel banking channels.
A minority of the Council was opposed to bill S. 408
even with these amendments.



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-3The Council's support, with these amendments, of bill S. 408 is given in the belief that
some safety valve is desirable for emergency
credit situations, and with the recommendation
that the lending and guarantee powers of certain
other government agencies, including the R.F.C.,
should be greatly curtailed, and in many instances
chould be termineted.
In this general connection, the Council has
also considered H. R. 157 and would appreciate the
Board's viewpoint on this bill. The Council is
unanimously opposed to it.
President Brown stated that with the two amendments sug-

gested above the Council could support S. 408.

He also seid that

the Council realized that commodity credit would have to be continued as long as legislation for the support of farm prices was
in effect, that the lending and guarantee powers of other agencies
such as the Federal Housing Administration and some of the disaster
loan powers of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation would have to
:
be continued at least for the time being, but that it was the feel
ing of the Council that other powers should be greatly curtailed
and in many cases terminated altogether.

He pointed out, however,

that the statement set forth above did not condition the Council's
84Pport of the amended S. 408 upon action being taken to curtail
the lending and guaranteeing powers of other Government agencies.
lie added that, in connection with the suggestion that the bill
require a showing that credit could not be obtained through normal
be hking channels, the Council felt that, if a small bank wanted to




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-4niake a loEn which

was

could readily g

the excess amount through its correspondent or

in excess of its legal lending limit and

some other bank, it should not be permitted to ,_;o to the Federal
Reserve Dtnk for a guarantee of the credit in excess of the legal
limit in order to participate in the loan.
CheirnEn Eccles stated that the two amendments to the bill
Proposed by the Council had been thorou:hly considered by the
13(11.rd and hcd been discussed with the Presidents of the Federal
Reserve Banks. 7ith respect to the question whether the term
"financial institution" or "chartered banking institution" shoeld
be used in the bill, he said that the former or even broader len6"11'c'ge was used in Section 13b of the Federal Reserve Act, in the
Executive Order authorizing the Federal Reserve B--Y:s to guarantee
V/ VT, End T loans, and. in the authority of the Reconstruction
Finnce CorioratIon to ifytke industrial loens.

He also said that,

;uarin'smuch as the amount of this type of credit that had been „
anteed for concerns other than commercial hnks was so smell
to m-ke the eueetion

PS

n academic one, the Board saw no reason to

opposition to the bill from sev-ngs End loan ee-ociations
nd other financing institutions by limiting th- authority to
1°ans mede by chartered banking institutions.
As to the second amendment 1,ropoe2d by the Council, Chair-

1n Eccles stated that at the recent Presidents' Conference the




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Presidents had a divided opinion on this point and that he believed
the members or the Board would like to leave the provision out of
the bill for the reason thqt the Federal Reserve Banks would be in
a position to determine whether the credit for which a guarantee
waS requested could be obtained through the usual banking channels
On a reasonable basis or whether the request was made solely for
the purpose of enabling the bank to exceed its legal loan limit.
If the suggested amendment were added to the bill, he said, there
would be opposition to it on the pert of many smail banks.
There was a discussion of the difficulty that might be
experienced in satisfactorily interpreting the language of this
amendment if it were added to the bill, and Chairman Eccles stated
that the credit departments of the Federal Reserve Banks were well
qualified to determine whether a particular loan could be obtained
witho-lt a guarantee and whether the only reason for the guarantee
was to exceed the legal lending limit, and that it should be the
PclicY of the Reserve Banks not to guarantee credits where they
could be obtained on a reasonable basis through normal banking
channels.

He added that that point could be covered effectively

in the regulations which would be issued by the Board pursuant
to the bill, that in these circumstances the Board did not feel
that it should propose the amendment, but that if it were offered
hY someone else the Board would not oppose it.




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-6President Brown sated that the bill in its present form

would be satisfactory as lon_; as the Board of Governors and the
Federal Reserve Bnks held the view stated by Chairman Eccles,
but that the Council was opposed to Governmental banking as
against private banking and felt that there should be some language in the bill which would limit its application in the event
there should be an administration or a Board of Governors which
believed in the socialization of credit.
Chairman Eccles stated that, even if that should occur,
the determination of the cueston whether a particular guarantee
should be issued would rest with the directors and officers of the
Federal Reserve Bank.
President Brown responded that, if the proposed legislation
I'las to be regarded as a safety measure to insure credit being extended in cases where it

was

desirable in the public interest, it

should contain some express provision to prev-nt the use of the
guorantee authority for a broader purpose.
After discussion of the reasons which might be advanced in
favor of inclusion or exclusion of the proposed amendment from the
bill, Mr. Brown asked for a discussion of the question whether the
bill should restrict the authority of the Federal Reserve Banks to
dUarantee loans made by financial institutions or only chartered
blInking institutions, and Chairman Eccles stated that the Board's




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preference would be to restrict the authority to member banks only
in order to add to the value of membership in the Federal Reserve
System, but that it was not felt that it would be possible to get
favorable consideration of the legislation with such a limitation.
President Brown sated that the situation at the present
time was very different from the conditions which existed in the
early thirties, when the existing guarantee authorities were given
to the Board and the Reconstruction Finance Corporation.

It that

time) he said, many banks and other concerns were in difficulties
and the broader authority made it possible to organize corporations for the express purpose of taking over criticized assets
and to extend the necessary credit for the purpose.

He added that

the Council could not see the necessity at this time for providing
mechanism which would permit guarantees not only to savings and
1°an associations and similar concerns but to finance companies,
'Investment companies, and others as well.
Chairman Eccles said that the Board _greed with that position, but that, since experience had shown that the number of
guarantees issued to concerns other than banks had been smellI the
question was largely an academic one.
Mr. Fleming suggested that the bill might be more accept12-ble to Congress with the amendment making the guarantee authority
available only in cases where the credit could not be obtained




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through the usual banking channels. H

agreed, however, that the

question whether the bill used the term "financial institution"
or "charter banking institution" was not an important one.
Chairman Eccles stated that the Council might wish to
consider the matter further in the light of this discussion and
submit e resolution setting forth its position with respect to
the two amendments, and that the Board would submit any resolution
that the Council might approve to the Chairmen of the Senate and
House Banking and Currency Committees.
President Brown slated that the Council would meet this
afternoon for that purpose.
In response to President Brown's recuest for the views of
the Board on S. 157, which would be known as the Veterans Employment and National Economic Development Corporation Act of 1946,
Chairman Eccles stated that the Board would be opposed to the bill
and that it did not appear that it would be given any serious considerat'on at this session of Congress.
3.

Differential margin requirements.

Should the margin requirements prescribed
by the Board in its Regulation U for banks be
lower than those prescribed in Regulation T for
brokers?
At the
Council would
requirements,
ditions under
sirable.




present time, and ordinarily, the
not favor a differential in margin
but the Council can conceive conwhich a differential might be de-

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-9President Brown stated that as long as business activity

was at a high level, any mterial differential in margin requirements in favor of banks would result in a shift of loans for the
epeculative purchasing of securities from brokers to the banks,
but that in a period of depression when stock prices were low it
zight be hizhly desirable to suspend margin requirements under
Regulation U altogether.

He also said that the Council was unan-

imously of the opinion that, under present conditions, the differehtial would be unwise and that except in extraordinary and unusual
circumstances it should not be established.
Chairman Eccles reviewed the circumstances under which
Regulation U

Was

adopted originally and referred to the fact that

it was clear that the law authorized the Board to prescribe a different requirement for banks in Regulation U from that prescribed
for brokers in Regulation T.

He also discussed the reasons that

could be given in support of a lower margin on bank loans than on
loa.ns by brokers.

He said that one aspect of the problem which he

felt was worth consideration was that in the past purchasers of
securities on margin borrowed from their broker in order to carry
the securities, the broker borrowed on the call loan market, largely
in New York, to carry his customers, and banks throughout the country
Pieced funds on the call loan market on a low rate, 811 of which
l'esulted in the local bank losing loans originating in its own




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community which it might very well have made.

He thought that n

lower m-rgin requirement for banks would tend to correct this 'Atustion, rnd that it would be much more satisfactory if these credits
could be supplied by the banks directly rather then through the call
racney market. He recognized that under existing law the differential could not be so large as to circumvent the purpose of the law,
but he did not believe that it was contemplated that in all conditions the prescribed margins in the two regulations should be the
same.
Following the discussion of the effect of differentials in
interest rates in influencing the decision whether security lo-ns
Would be made by brokers or banks, Chairman Eccles made the stateMeat that the Board was not contemplating establishing different
Illargin requirements in ReguThtions T and U, but had felt that it
was

8

matter that might well be discussed with the Council.

It

was his personal view, ho-ever, that if the Board should see fit
to prescribe a margin of 65 per cent in Regulation T, the margin
Prescribed in Regulation U might well be placed at 50 per cent,
and that, if the margin on brokers loans were reduced to 50 per
cent, the limitation on bank loans might be eliminated altogether
as being unnecessary.

He said that this was his offhand personal

view and he would not went to be bound by it but would want to
study the matter further.




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-11MT. Brown expressed the opinion that as long as present

conditions existed including the inflated money supply and the
ease with which bank credit could be obtained, a small differential in the margin requirements prescribed in Regulations T
and U would cause a shift of security loans from brokers to the
banks and therefore would be undesirable.

4. Consumer credit.
Consumer credit has practically reached
the prewar level and probebly will continue to
rise. As the Council is aware, if regulation
of this type of credit is to be permanent Congress will hcve to enact the enabling legislation. Should the Board be given some definite
but limited regulatory authority in this field
or should there be no Federcl regulation of
consumer credit?
The Council does not believe that the
°Board should be given power to regulate consumer
credit. The Council believes the Board might be
helpful in the matter of consumer credit if it
regularly gave wide publicity to figures reflecting the outstanding volume of consumer credit.
Mr. Brown said that the above statement represented the
unanimous view of the members of the Council, and that the reason
for the position was one of primary difference in philosophy with
l'espect to Government planning.

He also said that, although the

.embers of the Council realized fully that fluctuations in the
v°111me of consumer credit would have an influence on the economy,
they felt that if the Board or some other agency were given authority over consumer credit with respect to automobiles, for example,




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that authority, in order to be made effective, would inevitably
have to be extended to the small loan companies end other fields.
While, he said, the Council would admit the dancer of fluctuations in consumer credit without regulation, it felt that, in the
interest of the whole economy and in the interest of individual
ri,
,Jits in an independent economy, the Board should not be given
control of consumer credit and that the existing authority should
-apse at the end of the emergency.
Chairman Eccles stated that the administration of the
Board's authority in the field of consumer credit had been a difficult task, th- t speaking for himself he would be glad to be relieved of that responsibility, but that with the large public debt
which would be in existence for a long time and the necessity of
Maintaining the stability of Government security prices, the
Board was not able to influence the volume of credit outstsnding
by the use of the traditional or quantitative credit controls,
and that it was a ouestion whether the authority for selective
Credit controls should be extended. He also said that any action
that might be taken with the consent of the Treasury to increase
the short-term rate would not increase the rate more than 1/8 or
1/4 Per cent, and th-t while that might stop the monetization of
the public debt it would not stop the sale by the banks of securities to enable them to expand private credit.




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he added, that there would be a tremendous growth in the volume of
consumer credit outstanding which might reach as high as

3O billion,

and in the absence of authority for selective credit control or
further legislation by Congress as proposed in the Board's Annual
Report for 1945, there was nothing the Board could do about it.
He Made the further statement that the problem had been discussed
with the Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks during their recent meeting in Vashington and it was the majority opinion that,
While the Presidents did not like the task, they felt it was a
question of alternatives and that continuation of the authority
Ime essential.

He went on to sry that the Board had agreed to

recommend that if consideration were not given by Congress during the present session to the granting of legislative authority
for consumer credit regulation the Board would request that the
Executive Order on which Regu ationTiwas based be revoked.

It

14E8 expected, he said, that a bill giving the Board continuing
authority to regulate consumer credit would be prepared and presented to the Chairmen of the Banking and Currency Committees.
He also said that the Board was anxious to point out the dangers
inherent in the uncontrolled growth of consumer credit, and that
the public would know what the situation was so that if legislative authority were not given and an unhealthy situation devel°Ped the Board could not be held responsible.




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-14The Chairman expressed the opinion that, because of the

oPPosition that had developed to Regulation WI if the Board should
request it, the Executive Order would be repealed promptly without
vatting until the end of the Present session of Congress.

He felt,

howev.r, that if there was no regulation on down payments and maturities on loans for the purpose of purchasing consumer durable goods
that were in short supply such as automobiles, and instalment terms
were progressively relaxed, it would result in the maintenance of
existing high prices for an indefinite period and many people,
Particularly people of small means, would be committed for indebtedness incur,
-ed at the highest prices which could only result in
trouble later on.
President Brown stated that the Council had spent many
hclurs discussing the problem of consumer credit regulation, that
While there
was substantial support for legislative authority in
this field rnd the Council recognized the dangers in an uncontrolled
situation, it could not escape the decision that the effective exercise of the authority would require its extension into other fields
211ch as real estate and elsewhere and that the control would be a
11"se evil than the one it was designed to correct.
Mr. Burgess stated that one of the worst areas of abuse was
i4 the field of veterans' mortgage losns which were highly infleti°nary and he inquired whether the Board had taken a position on




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that matter.

Chairman Eccles responded that the Board had not mede

a statement with respect to it but that he had discussed the problems involved with representatives of the Treasury, particularly
Ifith respect to the authority of the Feconstruction Finance CorPoration to purchase veterans' mortgage loans and the provision in
the President's budget for .
4 500 million for the purchase of such
111(:)rtages. It was his feeling that these funds should not be made
available for that purpose and MT. Fleming stated that the Imerican
knkers Association Committee on Treasury Financing had made such a
recommendation to the Secretary of the Treasury.
Chairman Eccles also discussed the differences between mort,
?Pge credit and consumer credit from the standpoint or practical
selective credit control and expressed the opinion thnt, if the
130ard had authority to regulate credit in connection with the sale
of

consumers durable goods which were ordinarily purchased on the

basis of a title-retainint, note, it would Lo a long way toward the
Ilegulation of the dangerous fluctuations in consumer credit.

Mr.

'11.rgess concurred in the opinion that the Government should not
laiadertnke
to control mortgage lending and suggested that it was
1/tiportnnt
also that it should not follow r policy with respect to
\reterryu
the

mortgage loans wh - ch was seriously inflationary and that

poard might have a greater responsibility to take the position

0n thet matter than it had in the field of consumer credit.




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-16Chairman Eccles stated the Board had received requests for

rePorts on bill S. 217) which would continue the authority of the
Reconstruction
Finance Corporation to make credit available to small
business enterprises, but that after discussing the mrtter with rep-resentctives of the Comptroller of the Currency end the Treasury it
"
14
agreed that it would be inappropriate for the Board, the Comptroller of the Currency, or the Treasury to make a report on the
bill as such action would immediately precipitate a conflict which
Should be avoided for reasons which he outlined.

He also said that

last Year the Bosrd made an adverse report on the sections of the
Wagner-Ellender-Taft bill which would provide 3rsier credit terms
°n mortgaLe loans and pointed out the inflationary results of such
'
el edit.

He made the further statement that if he should be asked

to testify on the matter he would feel free to make a full statement of his
position with respect to veterans' mortgage loans.
5.

Direct purchases of Government securities from
the Treasury.

The Board has recommended leL,Islation to make
peimanent the authority to make direct purchases up
to 5 billion dollars from the Treasury -nd would
welcome the Council's support of this measure or an
expression of the reasons for contrary views in case
there is disagreement with the Board's recommendation.
The Council recommends that authority be given
for e period of three years to make direct purchases
up to 5 billion dollars from the Treasury. The Council
believes that it would be advisable to reviel, the matter again at the end of three years to determine if




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-17there had been any abuse of the power and also to
determine whether the power should be further continued or be permitted to lapse. The Council cannot but be mindful of the fact that historically
-nd in various countries direct borrowing by a
government from the central bank has been a common vehicle of inflation.
Chairman Eccles reviewed the present status of the bill

ucv before Congress which would extend the authority for direct
Purchases from the Treasury of Government securities and stated
the reasons why its enactment, although not essential,

was

desir-

able at this time in the interest of stability in the Government
security and money markets.
e Uthority

With respect to the proposal that the

be limited to three years, Chairman Eccles stated that

the Board would have no objection if the Congress desired to conelder a further extension of thr, authority at the end of that time.
Re also srid that he would like to have the misconception cleared
uP that the authority to make direct purchases was a dangerous one
-11d that there was no danger in the authority to purchase Governin the market.

He emphasized that, from the standpoint of

the inflationary effects involved, there was no substanti-1 difference between the two, that the only way to avoid these dangers
/las to avoid deficit financing altogether, and that the public and
the Congress should understand that.
Mr. Burgess inquired whether it would be desirable for the
C011ncil and the Board to join in r statement suggesting that Govern-




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zent expenditures during the next fiscal ye,71- be cut by a stated
amount.
Chairmen Eccles replied that the ouestion of

2

reduction

in Government spending was one or deciding where the reduction
should be ma:de and that that involved the question of expenditures
for military purposes and In carrying out the foreign policies of
the

Government.

He felt that, if this country was to take over

the role of England in 'urope, it would involve commitments the
extent of which could not be foreseen at this time, and that this
was a question which went far beyond the problem of Government
financing and budget policy and into the field of international
P°11cY and relations. He also discussed the pos3ible effect of
a budget surplus of around

4 billion and on increase of approxi-

m8telY N billion
in special trust accounts, and expressed the
°Pinion that if the Treasury were to use these funds for debt retirement it would have a deflationary result and that the desirable
alterntive would be reduction in taxes.

6. Bank holding company legislation.
It is expected that bank holding company
legislation will be introduced at this session of
Congress. The Board has discussed this subject
with the Council and will be glad to give the
Council any additioul information it desires.
The Board would also like to know the Council's
general attitude toward the holding company legislation.




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-19The Council eppreciates the opportunity the
Board has given the Council to examine the proposed
bank holding company legislation. However, the effects of legislation of this character are sofarreaching, and the subject is one offering so many
compliceted problems that the Council will require
more time to study the proposed legislation. The
Opinions of its members are widely divergent on
the question. It will endeavor by the Nay meeting
to sea if it is eosAble for r majority of the
Council members to agree on the principles which
should govern holding cor-eny legislation.
President Brown stated that the members of the Council were

agreement that bank holding legislation of some kind should be
enacted Shut that it had not been possible to reach any agreement
c)n thefund - mental ciue:tions involved except that the legislation
should not take the form of a death sentence.

The Council also

Understood, he said, that there was a similar difference of opinion
'
a rl°ng the interested Government agencies.
Chairrarn Eccles discussed the history of the existing ruthritY of the Board with respect to the supervision of bank holding
e°111Panies and why the present Lew had not been effective in eccomplishIn'e; th.e purposes which Congress had in mind or in meeting situations
hnd developed in connection with particular bank holding companies.
The mo
ard felt he said, that it had a responsibility to bring this .
Ilatter to the attention of Congress which was done in the Board's
Annual Report for 1943.

He also discussed the bills which had been

troduced in congress since that time and stated that the bill intl
'
c'dpeed on March 10, 1947, by Senator Tobey,




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had been sent by the Board to the members of the Council, was not
greatly different from the bill introduced during the previous session. He also said that it was not possible to draft a bill which
would satisfy everyone, that the Attorney General was in favor of
the bill in its latest form, that the Comptroller of the Currency
end the Federal
Deposit Insur,,nce Corporation were opposed to grantanyfurther discretionary authority to the Board, and that the
71"eaBurY had stated that it would have no objection to the introduction. of the new bill.
In response to an inquiry from President Brawn, Chairman
Eccles strted that he did not know when or whether hearings would
be held on the bill, that the Board had submitted it and had ace°11110anied it by an explanatory statement setting forth the reasons
A
401" the legislation, that the Board would do what it could if hearwere held to urge enactment of the bill, but that Congress would
4.7e to make the final decision.
7. Long-term bond issue.
Would it be desirable to have a refunding
bond issue?
The Council believes that it is desirable
to have e refunding bond issue, and it suggests
that the Board use its influence with the Treasury,
as part of a continuing program gradually to transfer a large prrt of the debt to permanent investors,
to bring out in the near future a refunding bond is- tie of not over two billion dollars, non-eligible to
banks, and with restrictions on subscriptions along
the lines of those suggested by the /merican Bankers
Association Committee on Treasury Borrowing.




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Chairman Eccles referred to the conclusions reached

by the
Federal Open Market Cormittee at its recent discussion of
this euest4 on and stated that he and Mr. Sproul had been authorized
to present to the Treasury a memorandum on the subject.

He said

that the memorandum had not yet been submitted but that the Committee
wae unanimously opposed to a long—term market issue for the reason
that it would encourage further snle by banks of short—term securi—
ties in order to purchase long—terms, end, therefore, would have
elactly the opposite effect from the one desired.

Such ection, he

"id, would deal with effects rather than causes and, in the absence
of legislation along the lines proposed in the Board's Annual Report
for 1945, the only alternative available in the event the pressure

cm the long—term rate should be resumed would be to permit en in—
elleese in the short—term rate which would create a situetion in which
it would be unprofitable for banks to shift from short to long—term
issues.
In response to a quest'_on whether it would be possible to
get the necessary consent for a long—term market issue at 2-1/2 per

earit and at the same time an increase in the short—term rate, Chairman
Coles said that he did not think that that would be possible. He felt

that any
long—term security issued by the Treasury should be of the
-13°Ild type designed to provide an investment medium for bona fide
s"ingE funds accumulated by insurance companies end others.




It wPs

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View that, if it were not possible to get the legislation recommended in the Board's Annual Report, the procedure to be followed
w041d be to allow the short-term rate to increase and to make available to bona fide investors nonmarketable securities similar to the
existing G
-bonds.
After a discussion of various steps that might be taken to
deal with the problem involved in this matter, Chairman Eccles said
that he thought the Board would favor the enactment of the lej_slation along the lines suggested in its Annual Report which would deal
th the fundamental problem, but that it did not appear likely that
the legislation would be enacted.
Mr. Winton asked if the Board felt that the time had come
When the
existing pattern of rates could no longer be maintained and
Chairman Eccles replied in the negative stating that the existing
Pattern could be maintained indefinitely and that the question was one
of advisability rather than of ability to maintain the pattern.

How-

ever/ he said, it would be preferable to allow the short-term rate to
l'ise rather than to try to issue a sufficient amount of 2-1/2 per cent
1°4g-term securities to maintain the long-term rate.
Mr. Burgess inquired whether the Board favored an offering of
the suggested G-bond type of security soon or whether that was regarded
4s something to be done in the indefinite future.
Chairman Eccles stated the Board would not oppose its being offered




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whenever the pressure on the long-term rate reappeared.

He

did not

think it would be wise to offer it under conditions that would interfere with the offering of securities issued and ,.liaranteed by the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development or other financing
that might have to be done. He also felt that the new issue could be
Put on tap 'end the right reserved to turn down applications from any
concern when it appeared that its purchases would be in excess of its
bona fide savings accumulations.
Chairman Eccles then referred to the bill introduced in ConCress which included a provision removing the limitation contained in
the present law on the amount that might be spent by e Federnl Reserve
Bank in the construction of a Pedercl Reserve branch building. He rethe circumstances in which a new bill had been introduced from
/41ioh this provision had been dropped, and stated that he had discussed

the matter with the Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee
111c) felt that a separate bill on this subject might be introduced concertain limitations which would increase the chances of its

bein
g 8iven favorable consideration.
President Brown stated that the Council felt that there was
II° justification for the limitation in the existing law and that at
separate meeting this afternoon the Council would consider whether
it should take a position with respect to the matter.
President Brown then said that the next meeting of the Council
lgould be held in Washington on /Icy 19 and 20, 1947.




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-24Chairman Eccles sated that the Board felt that the new pro-

cedure, under which the views of the Council were submitted to the
Board in writing before the joint meetin6 of the Board and the Council,
a real improvement over the manner in which the meetings had been
"
w
handled in the past.

President Brown responded with the comrent that

the Council was appreciative of the fact that the Boerri had submitted
at this meeting several topics which were of real importance for consideration by the Council.

He also said that the Council -would be

4-(1 if in the future it could have memorFndn prepared by the staff
in connection with any topics suggested by the BoF'1.5 and if these
Inemeranda could be received some time before the time of the Council
'fleeting.




Thereupon the meeting adjourn

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Chairman.

Secretary.